IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2012-10-30

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aklsIf I want to write a bash script that is going to work like a daemon, would it be enough to put some "sleep" commands to allow n900 to sleep when nothing is happening?00:31
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Palifreemangordon, you can compile u-boot with thumb if you add '#define CONFIG_SYS_THUMB_BUILD' to include/configs/nokia_rx51.h01:20
Palibinary is really smaller and working in qemu01:21
Pali(not tested on real n900 yet)01:21
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GeneralAntilles"its only dual core........................... with a fancy screen.... its actually the SLOWEST option since it has to push that 1600p constantly through 2 cores."01:46
GeneralAntillesRe: Nexus 1001:46
GeneralAntillesI really, really love Engadget commenters.01:47
GeneralAntillesDirect link:
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SpeedEvilGPUs people01:51
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GeneralAntillesJolla's hardware announcement needs to get here soon.01:58
GeneralAntillesI'm tired of drooling over Nexus 4s and iPhone 5s.01:58
robbiethe1stHow about drooling over Steam for Linux02:01
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GeneralAntillesrobbiethe1st, 'cause I'm on OS X. :P02:29
robbiethe1stSo, upgrade to Linux!02:30
GeneralAntillesGood one02:31
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jacekowskiSpeedEvil: well, still, more pixels to display02:36
SpeedEviltrue, of course.02:37
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Skryhahah, just saw the best description of vi ever: <        phrik> vi only has 2 modes: beep repeatedly, and break everything.03:09
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RST38hMore or less so03:31
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jon_yPali: how much space is saved for thumb u-boot?11:38
jon_yalso, thumb kernel if applicable11:38
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brzysim trying to compile pybluez for n900 under scratchbox and i getting an error: /scratchbox/compilers/sc2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7/bin/sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-as: unrecognized option `-Qy`12:13
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MrOppositeHi, is there a way to save my GPS position in order to later be able to get back to that spot again?12:21
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jon_yvi_: hey, how do I use dsme to check the wakeups?13:16
jon_yalso, anybody know if it is a good idea to put /var/log as 24MB tmpfs?13:16
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vi_jon_y: wut?13:26
vi_dsme monitors important processes and kills/restarts them as they crash/get killed etc.13:26
vi_This way nokia can be sure xorg for example will run all the time.13:27
jon_yI read your message earlier about dsme monitoring the wakeup signals13:27
jon_yanything else to do to investigate?13:28
jon_ystrangely, the power drain isn't as bad anymore13:28
jon_yshould last about 2-3 days13:28
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vi_jon_y: that sounds about normal13:30
vi_in truth wakeups/second is kinda irrelevent.13:30
jon_yI see, should I post syslog?13:30
vi_as a measurement of how long your system will last.13:30
vi_find the bq27x00 script.13:31
vi_and install i2c tools.13:31
vi_and install i2ctools.13:31
jon_yto measure the battery charge?13:31
vi_this will let you read details strait from the 27500 battery controller.13:31
vi_In the data it supplies, you will find average current, standby current etc.13:32
jon_yiirc there were 2 versions of the script13:32
vi_I am not sure.13:32
vi_I believe there is onnly 1.13:32
vi_you are perhaps thinking of the charge21 scriot.13:32
vi_you are perhaps thinking of the charge21 script.13:32
jon_ymaybe I am confusing it with that13:32
vi_bq27500 just reads the battery cell controller.13:33
vi_The other is for charging without BME.13:33
jon_yfound it
vi_(BME is nokias secret, closed source, in house, totally shit charging control.)13:33
vi_my new n900 is rattly :(13:34
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jon_ysome sort of charging regulator?13:34
vi_what is?13:34
jon_ynokia BME13:34
vi_It is the software part.13:34
vi_It detects the condition of the USB port and takes the appropriate action.13:35
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Lava_Croftvi_: i never had a N900 that couldnt do service as a kid's toy13:45
Lava_Croft(in relation to the rattling)13:45
vi_Lava_Croft: ugh, someone has tried to repair the screen.13:45
vi_and made a shit job of it.13:45
vi_some of the screws on the lcd assembly are stripped.13:46
Lava_Croftvi_: the build quality overall is really bad imo13:46
vi_Also the ribbon connector is different to all the other n900 I have seen.13:46
Lava_Croftfake screen?13:46
vi_This upper assembly looks and ffels cheap.13:46
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vi_I have seen the inside of ~6 n900s and this one is different.13:46
vi_Although it is a 2101, so probably a bit older.13:47
jon_ysounds like some kind of B grade scifi :)13:47
vi_Lava_Croft: well it does not say 'dexigned in finland' on the back!13:47
jon_ydissecting my phone to find alien material all over13:47
Lava_Croftvi_: heh?13:47
vi_jon_y: yah, I open n900s, I hate it when they scream.13:47
vi_Lava_Croft: on TMO someone got a 'new' n900 that had come from hong kong.13:48
jon_yyou open them while they're still running without anesthetics?13:48
vi_It clearly had a fake plastics retrofitted.13:48
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jon_yhow do I get genuine N900s anyway?13:48
Lava_Croftvi_: i have two n900's, one from china and one from thailand13:49
vi_jon_y: It is a lottery :(.13:49
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vi_don't buy from the east.13:49
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jon_yvi_: anything wrong with the pastebin?13:50
vi_jon_y: run:13:51
vi_sleep 35; bq27x0013:51
vi_quickly lock the screen.13:51
vi_wait 45s.13:51
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jon_yvi_: disconnect charger and wifi?13:52
vi_jon_y: obviously.13:54
vi_go offline.13:54
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vi_that looks about right.14:02
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vi_I expect about 3-5ma standby current on a offline, standby n900.14:02
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SpeedEvilabout reasonable14:03
jon_ythanks vi_14:03
jon_ysometimes when I reboot, I get weird power drains14:03
vi_tracker is a great program.14:04
vi_I do not see what peoples problem is.14:04
vi_As to what is causing your power drain, I cannot say.14:04
jon_yI mean, is it cause by it running a full scan on reboot?14:05
vi_jon_y: No.14:05
vi_Tracker does not do that.14:05
vi_If it was tracker, you would see it as one of the top processes in top.14:05
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vi_have you changed any of trackers settings?14:06
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jon_yI've told it to exclude the other partition on the uSD14:06
vi_that is ok.14:06
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vi_It is my opinion that activating throttling and low memory mode etc is stupid.14:06
jon_ythere was once that I needed to reboot in order to get all the picture viewer working again14:07
jon_ynot sure what happened14:07
jon_ytried to delete the tracker cache manually failed14:07
vi_Rarely it does get fucked up.14:07
vi_Install trackercfg14:07
jon_y-r doesn't rerun the tracker either14:07
vi_It is a nice gui to configure it,14:07
jon_yyeah, I have that14:07
vi_with 'rebuild database' option.14:08
vi_Sometimes thumbnailer will fail on a picture and leave a corrupted thumbnail.14:08
jon_ywell, after rebooting, it automatically ran a full scan and things are working again14:08
jon_ynot sure what happened earlier14:08
vi_It causes thumbnailer to vomit all over the place, but that is pretty rare in my experience.14:09
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jon_yyeah, all my thumbnail were corrupted earlier until reboot14:09
vi_jon_y: n900 is like women.14:09
vi_Sometimes moody.14:09
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* ShadowJK wonders why it doesn't rescan dcim14:10
jon_yit did for me14:10
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jon_yis the tracker built on inotify?14:10
vi_tracker is built on...14:11
vi_OSS program 'tracker'.14:11
jon_yI mean the monitoring system14:11
vi_any tips for a new 2101 owner?14:11
jon_yit doesn't poll directories periodically right?14:11
jon_yyeah, I have a 210114:12
vi_jon_y: I am not sure how it deals with monitoring.14:12
jon_ylots of funny issues, like u-boot not wanting to start properly sometimes14:12
vi_jon_y: lame.14:12
ShadowJKI mean I've copied over DCIM images from previous N900s and they dont appear in photos14:12
jon_yoh, refresh the db?14:12
vi_I almost wish I had kept that n900 for zeq and got him another.14:12
vi_It was practically mint condition.14:13
jon_yvi_: yeah, only Pali's most recent uboot got it working14:13
vi_PALI RULEZ \m/ 0 \m/14:13
vi_PALI RULEZ \m/ 0_0 \m/14:13
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jon_yearlier builds caused the kernel to emit cannot mount ubi:0 or some such14:13
jon_yit works if I used flasher to load a kernel14:14
jon_yafter a few tries of course14:14
jon_yat which point it can be compared to an old car engine having startup problems14:15
vi_I think I want another 2104.14:15
vi_2101 for mrs vi_14:15
vi_she does not neet uboot!14:15
vi_she does not need uboot!14:15
* ShadowJK appears to have 220414:16
vi_what makes 2204>2104?14:16
vi_100 better?14:16
jon_ywait, I think I have a 220414:16
jon_yhow do I check it from the n900 itself?14:16
ShadowJKI have no clue about differences14:16
ShadowJKcat /proc/cpuinfo14:17
DocScrutinizer05tracker using inotify14:17
jon_yyes 220414:17
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: thanks, that confirmed my theories :)14:17
vi_DocScrutinizer05: what is so great about 2204?14:17
jon_y2204 has lots of problems with u-boot14:18
jon_ylike occasionally not booting up properly if rebooted too quickly14:18
jon_yneed to use "switch off", wait for 10 seconds before powering on14:18
jon_ydo it too quickly and the next boot will hang14:19
jon_yit seems to boot fine after the first fail though, so for now, just an annoyance14:19
vi_I do not have uboot,14:19
vi_as no other OS seems able to use the n900 as a phone.14:20
vi_Without a phone the n900 is a shit tablet.14:20
ShadowJKmeegoce did14:20
vi_The most sucessful OS ever.14:21
vi_The most successful OS ever.14:21
jon_ybtw, any revisions later than 2204?14:22
jon_yI still remember when I first got the n900, the fresh battery could go up to a week14:23
vi_jon_y: rly?14:24
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vi_great, the back cover is missing the kick stand magnet.14:25
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vi_Fuck ebay.14:25
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gryyou could try to complain, that works at times14:25
vi_Then I have to send it back.14:25
ShadowJKwhoah, new opera version in -devel14:26
vi_Then I am 2 weeks later still without replacement n900.14:26
vi_ShadowJK: where have you been?14:26
vi_opera 12.14:26
gryvi_: yeah, given that they asked me to send a piece of paper back to a fake shoes seller that'd be likely14:26
jon_yvi_: yes, one week14:26
ShadowJKvi_; only check devel every 2 months or so :)14:26
* ShadowJK was looking for update to gpodder and/or markets today14:27
vi_thgere is a gpodder update?14:27
ShadowJKIt seems there isn't14:27
ShadowJKI was just checking. :)14:27
jon_ydude, wtf is with all the linkedin spam I'm getting these days14:29
jon_yI don't even know these people14:29
jon_yis that like facebook for CVs?14:30
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ShadowJKor "facebook for professionals"14:32
marcellus_linkedin is a pain in the ass14:32
marcellus_had it once and cancelled it14:32
marcellus_I keep getting notifications14:32
jon_yI did use it once to do background check on somebody14:33
marcellus_if you wanna  stop notifications you have to login to a non existing account and change the notification settings...14:33
jon_yno idea if it is even reliable14:33
jon_ylogin to a non existing account?14:33
marcellus_I cancelled my account14:34
marcellus_it does not exist any more14:34
marcellus_but if I want to stop it, it asks me to login...14:34
jon_yso make a new account with same name just to stop it??14:34
vi_linkedin is fucking gay.14:36
vi_But you need it in order to 'play' the game.14:36
vi_The chief engineer does not hire you, the HR department does.14:37
marcellus_it says this credentials were already used for an account14:37
marcellus_it's a damn catch 2214:37
vi_They are not impressed by your leet hax, they are impressed by your gimpy linked in page and how many loltweets you made yesterday.14:37
vi_My advice:14:38
vi_Make a professional looking linkedin page, facebook page, twitter account.14:38
vi_Send all notifications to spam bin.14:38
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vi_At the very least it will give the HR departments something to look at when they decide whether you are worth their time.14:39
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HurrianAlright, so I'm heading out for a trip to Hong Kong tomorrow.15:34
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HurrianPlanning to have my N9 and N900 nanocoated. Don't exactly feel like chucking them into a pool, though.15:35
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HurrianThe liquipel stuff.15:40
HurrianI bought a likely stolen CDMA SGS2 off the local version of eBay to have it coated to see if it's legit.15:40
Hurrian...before chucking my own N9 and N950 into the water, that is15:41
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HurrianGiven, a fully assembled device wouldn't get everything coated, and if it got chucked into a pool of chlorine treated water the results wouldn't be so good.15:44
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vi_How much does a coating cost?15:51
vi_List of things broken on my new n900:15:55
vi_1. Kickstand magnet, missing.15:55
vi_2. Broken stylus,15:55
vi_3. Camera shutter sensor not functional.15:56
keriovi_: QQ moar15:56
vi_4. Vibration motor is shagged.15:56
keriovi_: also make sure the back of the camera sensor is half black half white15:56
kerioor something15:56
vi_5. crap all over the inside of the LCD.15:56
kerio"shagged" as in "fucked, but british"?15:56
vi_6. Stripped screw heads on slider.15:57
vi_kerio: yes.15:57
vi_I cannot believ I paid £100 for this piece of shit.15:57
vi_very good condition my ass.15:58
vi_more like 'a bit broken but still mostly works.  kind of.' condition.15:59
vi_The question is...15:59
vi_Do I extract his email cache and fuck with his identity?15:59
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jon_yvi_: do it, you know you want to!16:13
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jon_yfor some reason I read "Windows Phone 8" as "Windows Phonet"16:14
jon_ytoo much n90016:14
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jon_ywait, you can put the phone in standby? echo mem >/sys/power/state16:15
vi_just lock the keypad.16:16
vi_It goes into standby ~10s or so later.16:16
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jon_yaha, I didn't know that16:16
vi_wtf is a 'white' n900?16:25
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DocScrutinizer51maybe a N900 in a white case?16:30
DocScrutinizer51jon_y: N900 can suspend_to_RAM, but it's completely useless since A) power consumption is only 3mA less than optimum yero-clock idle state, and B) it wakes up after 10..30s anyway on next unsolicited message from cmt16:33
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vi_^ from ebay.16:33
vi_maybe he should have installed *# enabler?!16:34
fizzievi_: The third picture in the ad seems to be the "white model".16:34
vi_It looks to me that these 2 n900s are fine.16:35
vi_Just need a reflash.16:35
MrPinguthat white one looks sexy IMO16:35
vi_on closer inspection, they both look fucked.16:37
vi_It is so damn hard to find a decent n900 these days.16:37
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jon_yvi_: would get it for £100.00, if I was in the UK16:39
jon_ywhite case looks like flash reflection16:39
vi_look at the picture I pasted.16:39
vi_It is a higher res than you can see on ebay.16:40
vi_The keyboard is sticking up.16:40
MrPinguYeah indeed, however that chrome ring looks cool :P16:40
MrPinguWould love to paint my N900 but don't have the balls/the money to do it16:41
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vi_MrPingu: all you need is 2 screwdrivers and a rattle can.16:41
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MrPinguYeah already bought  T1-T8 screwdriverset 6 months ago :p16:44
MrPinguand paint from the local hobby/model shop?16:45
jon_ywhat are you going to paint on it?16:46
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vi_jon_y: a penguin obviously!16:47
aklsvi_, are you here?16:47
aklsoh, yes you are!16:47
jon_yUnion Jack!16:47
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MrPingujon_y probably paint that alu ring chrome-like16:47
vi_BRB COFFE16:47
jon_ythat early UK pop music stuck in my head16:47
aklsvi_, I have a question about this one
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aklsvi_, how can I make xbindkeys to autostart?16:47
MrPinguakls, one moment let me find16:48
aklsvi_, I've tried creating an event.d file but seems like it's too early16:48
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aklsMrPingu, AHa!16:51
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vi_You need to use xsession post scripts16:52
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vi_or what mr_ping said could work.16:54
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vi_His way is probably more 'proper'.16:54
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aklsMrPingu thank you! :)16:58
aklsoh. he left..16:58
aklsvi_, ok! This one is solved! Now how can I make the same keyboard mapping work in easy debian?16:58
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MrPinguwtf, suddenly wifi went down on N900 and always gave me network error17:01
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MrPinguNo matter what, tried reloading the drivers but the fscking thing kept giving me network errors and was begging for reboot :(17:03
aklsMrPingu, thanks!! : >17:03
MrPinguakls, you are welcome17:03
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aklsMrPingu, and maybe you know how to make same keyboard mapping work in easy debian?17:04
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MrPinguakls, copy the keyb map file to ED, I believe17:06
MrPinguMake sure it's in the same directory but then under ED ;)17:10
vi_akls: That is what I have heard as well17:10
vi_then you need to run setxkbmap.17:10
MrPingumy acces point is evil?17:10
MrPingudmesg is spammed with wlan0 deauthenticated17:11
vi_someone is trying to hack your network!17:11
vi_you are wpa encrypted right?17:11
vi_what is your ssid?17:11
MrPinguhidden ssid17:11
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vi_does not matter.17:12
MrPinguwpa2 encrypted17:12
vi_what is it?17:12
vi_is it default?17:12
vi_or did you set it?17:12
MrPinguno I set it17:12
MrPingubut dafuq17:12
vi_inept hacker?17:12
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MrPinguguess so, wish my hacker good luck with a 63 char random key17:13
vi_The only time you are going to be flooded with de-auths is when somone is trying to grab your wpa authentication handshake.17:13
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MrPinguvi_: I know17:13
vi_Or if someone wants to clear everyone off a particular channel to free it up for themselves.17:14
MrPingucan't be17:14
vi_I want channel 1.17:14
MrPinguneighbors left use c1, on the right they use 1117:14
vi_Spam channel 1 with de-auths for 2 months.17:14
vi_No one else uses channel 1 now.17:14
vi_I take channel 1.17:15
MrPinguI have c617:15
MrPinguthe whole street has 1 or 1117:15
MrPinguonly one with 6 here17:15
vi_heh, you live in the uk?17:15
MrPinguNetherlands ;)17:15
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aklsMrPingu, but what about shift+fn+key characters? Are they going to work too?17:16
MrPinguin ED?17:16
vi_akls: They should do.17:16
MrPinguakls, honestly I have no idea but I guess they should17:16
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MrPingudon't forget like vi_ said to issue setxkbmap17:18
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jon_yhow do I stop services from the terminal for the n900?17:24
jon_yand how do I adjust a service so it is not started on boot?17:24
jon_ydon't need sysklogd running atm17:25
jon_yok /etc/init.d/klogd stop17:26
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aklsjon_y, maybe it's started from /etc/event.d/ directory? check it17:28
jon_yok, found update-rc.d17:31
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MrPinguDocScrutinizer05: Thanks, might good for yappari too17:44
MrPingu*might be17:44
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DocScrutinizer05MrPingu: refresh!17:48
DocScrutinizer05akls: maybe not what you want for a run-once app like xmodmap17:48
DocScrutinizer05anyway I treid to start xchat on maemo4(!) via xsession and it never worked17:50
DocScrutinizer05probably an events.d job might be the right one17:51
DocScrutinizer05or xmodmap would work better from xsession than xchat did17:51
DocScrutinizer05according to general X11 rules, stuff like xbindkeys (not xmodmap, sorry) should get started via xsession17:52
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MrPinguDocscrutinizer05, I missed something? refresh?17:56
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DocScrutinizer05or, rather17:57
MrPinguAh I see, the edit part17:57
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MrPinguPBeck: hi18:06
PBecki have a problem with my n900. I have tested cssu stable  and after the installation my locale settings are broken18:06
PBecki have already generated the locale, but its not working - my locale archive is 1,2 mb big18:08
PBeck*locale-archive in /usr/lib/locale18:08
PBecki need a new one?18:08
PBeckin the language settings of the phone is it not possible to change the language its only empty - perhaps it was a problem that i have used german and not english before the upgrade?18:09
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vi_what happens if two networked printers have the same IP address?18:44
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PBeckselfdestruction :>18:46
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DocScrutinizer51well, the same that always happens when two NIC 'share' same IP - *MESS*18:48
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DocScrutinizer51particularly your  ARP tables in switch/PCs/etc will always point to that one who answered last on WHOHAS18:49
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arvuthi folks, can I roll back nmap 5.59BETA to 5.5019:07
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MrPinguarvut, apt-get install nmap=5.50-219:16
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PBeckso reflash and update to cssu has worked19:43
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MrPinguPBeck, reflash always works19:51
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PBeckMrPingu: :)19:56
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aklsMrPingu, vi_ , sorry for that slow answer, but yes, copying rx-51 to ED was enough. Thank you, awesome guys20:08
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aklsvi_, haha, another question... :D20:09
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aklsvi_, is there something I can bind to alt?20:09
aklsvi_, so it's possible to press alt+f4 :D20:09
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MrPinguakls, That would create some sort of 5th level binding :o20:11
MrPinguakls, never tried but I think you would be better off with xbindkeys and bind alt + f420:12
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akls2MrPingu, or maybe I can set some combination to alt down event and some combination to alt up in xbinkkeys20:13
akls2that's going to work, right?20:13
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akls2vi_, oh, and another one! can I map some key to "Delete"? I've tried it, but it didn't work20:16
MrPinguakls2, just try20:17
MrPinguakls2, Delete does not work in osso-xterm but it does work in leafpad for example20:17
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MrPinguseems delete key is bit tricky under maemo20:18
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infobotDocScrutinizer05: thanks21:22
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PBeckhum is there a other workaround for the communication error ( i have dissambled the n900 completly and cleaned it21:51
PBecki have reflashed it and i have done the test with two seperate sim cards21:51
PBecki think it can be only a connection problem at the motherboard ( i have done the hammer methode, too), any other thoughts?21:52
kerioPBeck: clean sim contacts, buy new sim, buy new n90021:53
keriostop when it starts working :)21:53
freemangordonkerio: did you try EDS?21:53
keriofreemangordon: not yet21:53
PBeckchecked, checked, brought a s3 *duck*21:53
keriowhere did you bring it?21:54
kerioah dammit, too slow21:54
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MrPingufreemangordon: when will bb-power4 added to thumb repo? Right now it's only available from the garagepage22:00
freemangordonfuuu, I forgot that one :D22:00
freemangordongoing to compile it22:01
MrPinguno worries22:01
Palifreemangordon, DocScrutinizer05, I will send rx51_battery kernel driver to LKML for comments22:02
PaliI think driver is ready for upstreaming too22:02
freemangordonPali: great, but I think they will object because of twl4030-hwmon :(22:02
freemangordonhope I am wrong22:03
keriowhat's bb-power4? :O22:03
DocScrutinizer05ooh, again prior "art" which in fact is crap?22:03
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DocScrutinizer05bb sounds like BB5-cmt22:04
keriofreemangordon: After this operation, 16,4kB of additional disk space will be used.22:04
keriowtf did you do22:04
Palialso CCing power_supply maintainers22:05
freemangordonkerio: NFC, binaries are smaller22:05
DocScrutinizer05BB5/cmt has its own battery management entity, though ours is retired and only monitoring22:05
freemangordonI told you apt lies22:05
keriofreemangordon: what about the size of the whole thing tho22:05
kerioyou suck22:05
kerioalso maybe it's an ubifs thing?22:05
keriothe old binary is more compressible, maybe :322:05
DocScrutinizer05 meh, I guess kerio wasn't stringently on bq24150 topic22:06
kerioooh, there's a new busybox-power22:07
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freemangordonMrPingu: ready22:07
kerioDocScrutinizer05: what the hell, i keep having these two or three seconds of ACT_DEAD mode when i reboot22:08
keriowith no charger connected22:08
DataGhostI'm having this weird issue which I've pinned down to python-qt apps (normal Qt apps work fine) but I can't really seem to find the cause... alarmed and syncevolution-frontend (both python-qt apps) don't really show any control outlines, backgrounds etc, just the text (for input boxes this turns out to be black on black). If I run the apps as root, they work fine. I did an strace on alarmed and22:08
DataGhostit showed that user was trying to connect() to /tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which failed with ECONNREFUSED, and root successfully connect()ed to /var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which are both not on the filesystem, by the way. Does someone have an idea, does it look familiar and is it fixable? I really can't seem to find the issue online. I'm using the latest CSSU-testing by the way.22:08
DocScrutinizer05kerio: eh= 2 or 3 seconds?22:08
DocScrutinizer05eh? even22:08
kerioi shit you not22:08
kerioi get the charging pattern on the led22:09
DocScrutinizer05kerio: sorry I don't get it22:09
keriothe one that blinks22:09
kerioand then - untouched - starts properly booting22:09
DocScrutinizer05yep, normal22:09
keriothat's ACT_DEAD mode, isn't it22:09
keriowtf, why is it normal22:09
keriofreemangordon: where is EDS used?22:09
freemangordonkerio: everywhere22:10
freemangordonexcluding calculator maybe :D22:10
DocScrutinizer05kerio: lemme put it that way: ACT_DEAD is normal booted-up mode with a few services like X/HD etc not started22:10
freemangordonDataGhost: does it work on device with stock firmware?22:10
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: so during bootup there's a time window where system is basically in ACT_DEAD state, modulo it's continuing to start services22:11
kerioDocScrutinizer05: but why does it do the charging pattern?22:11
DocScrutinizer05because it's charging?22:11
freemangordonDataGhost: when it stopped to work?22:11
kerio<kerio> with no charger connected22:11
DocScrutinizer05then I dunno22:11
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DocScrutinizer05probably some transient bogus state of anything22:12
kerioi should probably do another full-reset22:12
kerioor whatever we called it22:12
DocScrutinizer05meh, I see absolutely same behaviour on my device22:12
DocScrutinizer05and iirc it's been like this from beginning22:12
MrPingufreemangordon: great!22:13
vi__set rd mode22:13
DataGhostfreemangordon: not the question I was hoping for :P I remember that it worked sometime but I think the last time I used a python-qt app was alarmed and that was in sept 2011. I'm not sure if I installed CSSU before that or not. Do you happen to have either alarmed or syncevolution-frontend on a CSSU'd N900?22:13
vi__set bootreason to powerbutton flag.22:14
vi__no more act-dead mode.22:14
DataGhostfreemangordon: and it works fine as root so I'm guessing it's related to something in my profile but I have no idea where to start looking22:14
freemangordonDataGhost: unfortunately no. But I suspect if it was a general problem with CSSU, there would've been reports to date. afaik alarmed is widely used. BTW what stops you from doing a reflash?22:15
MrPinguDataGhost: I syncevolution-frontend working fine and I am on CSSU-T(thumb)22:15
DocScrutinizer05DataGhost: I've seen same problem for all I actually seen when I last time updated CSSU, but next boot fixed it22:16
DocScrutinizer05so I hafe NFC what's been the cause22:16
DataGhostfreemangordon: I'd just rather not reflash because it's quite a hassle to restore everything again and if it's caused by something I set then that won't help anyway.22:17
DocScrutinizer05DataGhost: anyway the symptom is 'known', and nobody had an answer for me when I asked what's wrong with my device22:17
DataGhostDocScrutinizer05: reboots don't fix it, unfortunately :P22:18
Palidriver sent:
freemangordonPali: great22:18
freemangordoni suspect it is time for me to subscribe to lkml too :D22:19
DocScrutinizer05DataGhost: you should /join #maemo-ssu and ask there22:19
freemangordon--- /dev/null22:20
freemangordon+++ kernel-power/drivers/power/rx51_battery.c22:20
freemangordonPali: ^^^22:20
Paliany problem? patch is correct :-)22:21
freemangordonyeah, it is, it is just funny. you're upstreaming KP :D22:21
PaliI can use any directory name for driver :-)22:22
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freemangordonPali: I know, but it is still funny to me22:22
Pali$ diff -Nup --label /dev/null --label kernel-power/drivers/power/rx51_battery.c /dev/null rx51_battery.c22:22
PaliI have this for generating patches (to kp tree) ^^^22:23
freemangordonPali: ok, I am not saying there is some problem.22:23
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DocScrutinizer05I dunno if there's any convention about path root of a diff patch. patch -p $random always been a PITA for my understanding22:39
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DocScrutinizer05I'd assume a `patch -p1 ...` should work when your working directory is "root" of the project22:44
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DocScrutinizer05while patch -p0 should work to restore the file to an identical system with identical project dir23:02
DocScrutinizer05if your cwd is /23:02
DocScrutinizer05I guess...23:02
DocScrutinizer05your -p1 should probably be a -p2 then23:03
DataGhostDocScrutinizer05 we have the cause :p or at least for my case. python doesn't seem to use $TMPDIR (=/var/tmp) so it uses /tmp instead. setting TMP=$TMPDIR fixes it for me23:03
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DocScrutinizer05soinds like a bug in python-qt though23:04
DataGhostyeah. if you have some time, could you look into #maemo-ssu and run one of the commands I mentioned last?23:05
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vi__I have just installed debian on my new PC.23:05
vi__It has xfce.23:05
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vi__WTF is this shit?23:05
vi__I want traditional desktop environment paradigms.23:05
merlin1991then you don't want gnome 3 ;)23:06
vi__When I am struggling to find xterm, I know a distro has lost it's way.23:06
vi__WTFucking christ.23:07
vi__There is no minimise for windows.23:07
DocScrutinizer05DataGhost: just 15min to finish that movie23:07
vi__There is no 'window list' so I can change what I am doing!23:08
akls2vi_, install lxde then.23:08
Luke-Jrvi__: so install KDE already23:08
vi__...already on it.23:08
akls2lxde or kde?23:08
vi__kde has lost its way.23:08
vi__All I need is a mule, 40 acres and xterm.23:09
merlin1991dunno xfce works for me23:09
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vi__You find it more intuitive?23:10
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akls2merlin1991, what is it for?23:10
MrPinguIndeed all DEs seems to be lost23:10
vi__MrPingu: lxde!23:10
merlin1991hm but I do have minimize buttons23:11
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* merlin1991 checks what he really runs23:11
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vi__maybe I am not using xfce...23:11
vi__then wtf am I running?23:12
merlin1991well the debian image for xfce has no minimize buttons:
vi__It says 'activities' on the top left.23:13
Luke-Jrvi__: KDE has lost its way - but there's still nothing else reasonable23:13
merlin1991vi__: debian testing or stable?23:13
vi__My desktop does not look like that.23:13
merlin1991btw I *do* run xfce but have everything I expect from a desktop (including minimize buttons)23:13
vi__brb, lxde23:13
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akls2but I can't see "d"23:17
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merlin1991that's how xfce on my debian testing looks like23:20
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keriomerlin1991: that looks like an ugly debian2/mate23:30
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merlin1991why ugly?23:31
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MrPingulooks a bit ugly but it looks functional though23:36
freemangordonugly? hehe, you should see my XP :D23:38
keriowhy the hell are you using an 8 years old OS?23:40
keriono, 1123:41
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freemangordonwell, I am trying to replace it with some linux, so far the result is that ubuntu and debian does not like HPET :D23:43
freemangordonadn that 64bit ATI divers lock the PC23:44
freemangordonalso that debian is missing the firmware for my wireless, so I cannot install it without having it on some storage23:45
DocScrutinizer05the only ugly thing I can see there is upper left23:45
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DocScrutinizer05o/ bbl23:46
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