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grammoboykerio, hm that wizard mounter segfaults here11:36
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chem|st_wtf... why do we even vote?12:12
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DocScrutinizer51chem|st_: hey! because voting is democracy13:16
DocScrutinizer51chem|st_: also becasue (I think) the council election rules are kinda flawed to step down to a 3 heads gremium when there are 5 candidates standing13:18
DocScrutinizer51this seems kinda contra-productive and paradox13:19
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chem|st_DocScrutinizer51: having only 3 is BS already13:45
chem|st_but who am I to complain... I dont care13:45
chem|st_just in general13:45
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vi_freemangordon: ping14:06
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freemangordonvi_: pong14:39
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Paliping freemangordon16:02
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Palifreemangordon, do we really need special code for IBE bit in uboot rx51.c?16:03
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Paliit already calling omap3_update_aux_cr_secure(0xE0, 0);16:04
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freemangordonPali: ROM call parameters differ16:39
freemangordonn900 wants 1st parameter to be the number of parapeters+116:40
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freemangordonbb want 1st to be the number of params16:40
freemangordonPali: btw why bme should be disabled with 3.5.4?16:40
Palifreemangordon, because it using maemo specific interface16:41
Palifast charger detection, ...16:41
freemangordonPali: BTW I got stock PVR driver running with 3.5.416:41
Palifreemangordon, nice :-) with hildon opengles?16:42
freemangordonPali: but I did that too, otherwise mce does not start16:42
freemangordonPali: yes, with everything sock in userland16:42
freemangordongetbootstate wants it too, etc..16:42
freemangordon"/dev/twl4030-adc that is"16:43
Paliwe need to 1) remove/fix maemo specified apps or 2) port missing kernel interfaces...16:43
freemangordon1 should not be needed16:43
Palifreemangordon, can you write somewhere how you changed maemo to run upstream kernel?16:43
freemangordonPali: even cellular modes userland starts :P16:43
Palido you have omap ssi driver?16:44
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Pali(that is not upstreamed...)16:44
freemangordonPali: still not ready for that. And i've just realised I've loast my debian/patches directory :(:(:(16:44
freemangordonPali: yes16:44
freemangordonbut having PVR is the best thing16:45
Palifreemangordon, use extundelete for ext2/3 fs16:45
freemangordoni just need to tweak a bit led driver and a couple of others16:45
PaliI reverted back more deleted files with extundelete16:45
freemangordonbut i have no clue how that happened16:46
Paliadd everything to git16:46
freemangordonthe only thing that comes to my mind is my damn fucking stupid windoze freezed so I had to reset the machine16:46
freemangordonPali: already did that16:46
freemangordonnow going to do git diff to split the patches16:47
Palinow I'm playing with uboot... I rewritten rx51 relocation code16:47
freemangordonPali: so if we have /dev/twl4030-adc bme will run?16:47
Palibut uboot not working if starting from other address (after relocation)16:47
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Palifreemangordon, somebody wrote that bme using some kernel interface which was deleted in 2.6.3216:48
Paliso maemo bme not running on >= 2.6.3216:48
Palibut I do not know if it is true or not16:48
Palifreemangordon, it will really not run - bme depends on some sysfs interfaces on patched maemo musb driver16:49
freemangordonPali: /dev/twl.. is deffinitely missing in upstream, but anyway i added it.16:49
freemangordonaah, ok16:49
freemangordonmakes sense16:49
Skryis there a reason why bme should be kept around anyways? remove the old crud!16:49
freemangordonSkry: no reaon16:50
Palifreemangordon, driver which export /dev/twlmadc on maemo was upstreamed, but without that /dev device16:50
freemangordonanyway, kernel tree backup is finished, going to resore my patches16:50
Paliso you need to only add that missing /dev device into driver16:50
freemangordonfor twl?"16:50
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freemangordonit takes 5 lines of code16:51
freemangordonok, 15 :D16:51
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Palibut really, I do not want to see bme :-)16:51
PaliI RE getbootstate and it is possible to remove twlmadc code (and use rx51_battery driver)16:52
Palimce will be problem, but some open source version exists (+ there is also source code of diablo version)16:52
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freemangordonPali: in upstream there is hwmon twl-madc, where all of the channels are exposed16:52
freemangordonso we won;t need rx51_battery16:53
Palifreemangordon, I forgot about hwmon driver :-)16:53
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Palifreemangordon, we need to grep 'twl4030-adc' on full n900 rootfs image16:54
freemangordonPali: no need, I told you, add ing twl4030-adc takes 15 lines and no hacks16:54
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freemangordonwill show you the patch later (when I have everything restored)16:55
Palifreemangordon, what about create some fremantle kernel driver which export all needed interfaces? it is better to maintain separated driver (and not a lot of patches which needs to be fixed for all new kernel version...)16:56
freemangordonhmm, why not16:56
freemangordonmakes sense16:57
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Palibootreason, component_version, ...16:57
freemangordonyeah, you are right16:57
freemangordonhmm, i'll do that16:57
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Paliand what did you do with omap gpio switch?16:58
freemangordonNFC :D:D:D16:58
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Paliin upstream kernel is some other non compatible interface with that16:58
freemangordonPali: please, lemme restore my patches, i'll publish them16:59
Paliok :-)16:59
freemangordonSkry: where were hsi and cmt patches?17:00
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Palifreemangordon, in my meego patch I disabled platform_device_register(&rx51_gpio_keys_device); (in board-rx51-peripherals.c) & enabled maemo gpio-switch.o driver17:01
freemangordonPali: I didn't do that17:01
Paliok, good17:01
freemangordoni used Skry's kernel, ask him what has he did for gpios17:02
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PaliI will look at patches...17:02
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Palinow building new pre release kernel-power17:04
Hurrianfreemangordon, wait, does 3.5.4 boot Fremantle now?17:07
kerioHurrian: very -ish17:08
Hurrian...and that's all I can say about that.17:09
Hurrianguessing frrom the chat logs, bme is the only major component that breaks (?)17:09
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kerioHurrian: not really, a lot of stuff is nonworking now17:11
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Hurrian...speaking of Maemo though, a massive part of preinit and rcS-late are unnecessary17:16
Hurrianas in, completely replacable with reconfiguration of Fremantle.17:17
HurrianI'm not sure preinit is even necessary, it just very backwardly remounts / and chroots and boots.17:17
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HurrianrcS-late may be excusable for entering into ACT_DEAD mode, and nothing else.17:18
freemangordonHurrian: sure, but I am doing the kernel stuff :P17:19
freemangordonand TBH I am not that good in shell scripts ;)17:19
Hurrianfreemangordon, I know. Just thinking of some tweaks I'm making to Maemo to make it easier to boot on non-UBIFS root17:19
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Hurrianbecause with them, they really complicate everything, by a lot.17:20
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HurrianI'd say ~80% of code in the "if" statements are unused on the N90017:20
kerioHurrian: yeah, apart for bootmenu and ACT_DEAD, /sbin/preinit basically boils down to exec /sbin/init17:20
Hurrianunfortunately, they carried over to harmattan too :(17:20
PaliHurrian, some months ago I started rewriting preinit17:21
Palibut never finished...17:21
HurrianPali, wow, that's a lot more complicated than need be17:23
Hurrianpreinit ideally shouldn't exist - userspace component in upstart should catch bootreason and set runlevel accordingly17:23
Hurrianu-boot bootmenu can provide bootmenu support, and with the right modules, /sbin/init can be executed directly17:24
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PaliHurrian, then you need to move all preinit code into some upstart task17:24
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HurrianPali, that's the only drawback17:26
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Paliare you going to do it? :-)17:26
Hurrianwith a little fixup, default k-p cmdline can have init=/sbin/init ;)17:26
keriodoes NOLO pass a cmdline?17:27
HurrianI plan to write a minimal preinit that just mounts /mnt/new_root, and then check if maemo even needs that17:27
Hurriankerio, nope, it's built into kernel at compile time17:27
Hurrianit /used/ to, on pre-N900 devices, or so I heard from the old-timers on maemo.org17:27
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Hurrianactually, if you read thru preinit, you used to be able to select between internal flash and sd boot, using the built-in bootmenu17:29
Hurrianthis feature is largely neutered on Fremantle and up, and it's vestiges only add complexity to the system17:29
Palikerio, nolo does not pass any cmdline17:31
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PaliHurrian, in preinit you need to activate some cmt_bsi gpio17:32
Paliand set runlevel17:32
HurrianPali, AIUI though wrt getbootstate, preinit + getbootstate = fremantle getbootstate, right?17:32
Hurrianhas your harmattan-derived open getbootstate been pulled into CSSU yet?17:33
Hurrianthe getbootstate binary.17:33
PaliHurrian, not my getbootstate is not in cssu17:33
Palibut my getbootstate (patched harmattan) should be compatible with maemo17:33
Hurrianoh well, time to take a look at that too17:34
Paliit should act same as fremantle binary17:34
Palibtw, in my getbootstate there is some bsi number... now we know that it is RAW value of battery capacity17:35
Paliand in kernel driver rx51_battery is conversation formula to mAh17:35
HurrianPali, small steps to replace BME system?17:36
PaliHurrian, it should be possible now17:37
Palikernel drivers working17:37
Palihald-addon-bme too17:37
Paliand libbmeipc should work (it was not tested yet)17:37
HurrianAll that's needed is charge script to start charging, right?17:37
PaliHurrian, no17:37
HurrianOr does it charge automatically like stock system?17:37
Palionly load kernel modules17:37
Paliand kernel modules will automatically start charging when charger is plugged17:38
Palikernel-power v52 will be needed17:38
Palinow I'm going to test my new build and then relase it as pre release17:38
kerioPali: i'm going to test it too17:39
HurrianI'll be waiting :). Goodnight, guys.17:39
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Palikerio, you can:
kerioPali: same URIs?17:58
kerioPali: btw, are the flashable kernel images in the kernel-power debs?18:00
keriothe ones flashable with flasher-3.5 i mean18:00
Palikerio, fiasco image is in kernel-power and classic zImage is in kernel-power-bootimg18:01
Paliyou can flash both images by flasher-3.5 (with -F fiasco and with -k zImage)18:01
Palibut before flashing you need to install modules package18:01
kerioalright, installed18:01
kerioPali: i know, i wanted to know the way to recover from a botched kernel update :)18:02
kerioPali: it boots18:02
jon_ywait, when was 52 up?18:09
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keriosup DocScrutinizer18:22
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kerionow, i wonder18:24
kerioam i a bad enough dude to install Pali's bme replacement?18:24
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Palikerio, just stop bme & load modules bq2415x_charger and bq27x00_battery and rx51_battery18:25
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Paliit will charge battery18:25
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Paliand when you want to switch back to bme, just rmmod above modules and start bme18:25
kerioPali: i don't get the battery measurement though :)18:27
kerioPali: when does your replacement system shut down due to low battery?18:28
Paliwhen you install hald-addon-bme18:28
keriolike, edv1 set18:28
PaliI tested it and working18:28
Palibut I did not tested libbmeipc (used by pulseaudio & dsme for battery temperature)18:28
kerioPali: wait, rx51_battery was already loaded18:29
kerioi think18:29
Paliyes, rx51_battery is autoloading18:29
Paliit read values via twlmadc driver18:30
Paliand bme has no problem with it18:30
Paliso you do not have to rmmod it18:30
kerioi see18:30
kerioPali: solid led as soon as i attached the wallcharger18:30
keriohow do i check what it's doing?18:31
Palicat /sys/class/power_supply/bq<something>18:31
Palifor example file uevent18:31
Paliand check capacity or charge now18:31
kerioPali: wait, is uevent supposed to be sourceable from a shellscript?18:32
keriothat's REALLY neat18:32
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Paliyes, you can cat uevent from shell script18:32
keriono, not catting it :)18:32
Palior you can cat your property file too18:32
kerioi meant sourcing18:32
kerioas in, . /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/uevent18:33
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kerioto get POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS as a variable in your script18:33
Palikerio, ls /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/18:33
kerioaww, doesn't properly work because there are spaces in the last line :(18:33
keriois that in kelvin? :o18:35
Palikerio, bq27200 battery report bad full design18:36
Palibecause this value is in eeprom (and not calibrated in factory)18:36
kerioalright, rx51-battery is more sensible18:36
Palifor design capacity is needed rx51-battery18:36
kerioPali: will h-e-n work with the new modules?18:37
Palikerio, h-e-n not18:37
Paliyou need to rmmod charger module18:38
DocScrutinizer05or fix booston ;-)18:38
Palih-e-n using its own userspace "driver" for bq2415x18:38
keriook screw this, i'm installing the bme replacement18:39
DocScrutinizer05I'm tempted to do exactly that: augment booston so it works regardless of kernel bq24150.ko or bme is used18:40
infobotit has been said that closed_packages is
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kerioPali: hrmpf, do you have some built packages?18:42
Palideb packages not18:42
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kerioPali: hmm, shouldn't it be charger_mode host if you are doing usb host with charging?18:47
keriounless you're providing 1A to the n900 *and* powering the usb device18:47
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Palikerio, yes18:48
Palikerio, auto is too18:52
Palibecause fast charger detection is in host mode disabled (in kernel-power by patch)18:52
kerioi see18:52
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kerioPali: what does it mean for current_now to be -518k?18:56
keriocharging at 518mA?18:56
keriois that normal? it feels... low :s18:56
kerioit's at 70something percent18:56
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: usb_attached() is buggy19:12
PaliDocScrutinizer05, do you have better implementation?19:12
DocScrutinizer05well, for a beginning, delete /var/tmp/lsusb as first action in usb_attached()19:13
DocScrutinizer05though I guess I could eventually come up with a better implementation, yes19:13
PaliDocScrutinizer05, ok, if you can write better code, then I will not touch it yet19:14
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keriocan't you just do lsusb | grep -qv "1d6b:0002"19:16
DocScrutinizer05he wants to kill it when it hangs19:16
keriodoes it do that often?19:16
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DocScrutinizer05line 200 is ... weird19:19
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: looks decent, generally19:37
DocScrutinizer05not even the usb_attached() is _really_ buggy19:37
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kerioDocScrutinizer's seal of "meh"19:40
DocScrutinizer05I'd write some stuff a lil different, but that only means I have differing preferences how shellscripts should look like19:41
freemangordonphew, I managed to restore everything :)19:42
Palinow uboot can turn off led :-)19:43
Palitested and working19:43
DocScrutinizer05what I don't like is the fact that there's zero feedback about bq24150 boostmode errors to user19:44
freemangordonyay, h-d is here :D:D:D19:45
PaliDocScrutinizer05, I think that info about errors can go to hald-addon-bme19:45
Palibecause hald-addon-bme now parsing /sys/class/power_supply/19:46
Palifreemangordon :-)19:46
DocScrutinizer05Pali: well, there's still nothing to inform user about the errors, no?19:47
freemangordonhmm, it even tries to attach to wireless ;)19:47
PaliDocScrutinizer05, dmesg19:47
DocScrutinizer05Pali: there's even be the mce boostpattern happily going on19:47
Paliand also some sysfs entry19:47
Palihm, I will look at mce pattern19:47
Palinow hald-addon-bme handle charging pattern, so adding another should not be problem19:48
DocScrutinizer05somebody needs to tear down pattern_boost and maybe rise a notifier when e.g. boostmode stumbles and dies on too high load19:48
DocScrutinizer05Pali: brilliant idea19:49
PaliDocScrutinizer05, in bq2415 sysfs there are *_status entires19:50
DocScrutinizer05thought as much - just nobody reading less watching them19:51
DocScrutinizer05kernel aka bq2415x.ko should emit a kevent to let everybody know there occured an exception19:51
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, now sysfs entry of bq2415x show auto or off  (if autoreseting timer is enabled)20:08
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Paliand if error occur, then it print error message (instead auto/off)20:09
Paliwhat do you think?20:09
Paliif you change timer mode, then error will be cleared20:10
kerioPali: i thought there was a _fault entry already20:10
freemangordonhehe, keyboard leds work :P20:10
Palikerio, yes there are _status and fault entries20:10
Palibut bq2415x driver must every ?s reset timer20:10
Paliand when resetting timer it reading error status and report error message to dmesg20:11
DocScrutinizer05well, that's an internal thing20:11
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: generally you have to do a full reset of bq24150 chip when an error occurred20:20
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: and while errors in auto-charge mode might recover with a little help from kernel driver (or even without any, in some cases), for boostmode it definitely needs userland interaction to clear an error20:22
DocScrutinizer05Pali: ideally the kernel driver emits a signal (or does other event which a process could wait() for) when an error occurs20:23
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, now I patched kernel driver. it will call sysfs_notify on error and cat timer (from userspace will show error message)20:24
Paliauto reseting timer then is disabled20:25
Paliand userspace need to echo off/auto > timer to clear error message20:25
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, see:
freemangordonok, mce works, enough for today :D20:30
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Palifreemangordon, can you push git repo?20:31
freemangordonPali, not now. And I'll upload the pathches(against vanilla) to merlins server20:32
kerioPali: hmm, your charging module seems a bit eager to start charging again, or something like that20:34
kerioor maybe hald-addon-bme cheats20:35
kerio(the stock one)20:35
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kerioPali: ok, now i'll stop pestering you for a new kp52 build and i'll start pestering you about a bme-rx51-replacement build21:04
keriois that ok?21:04
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grammoboykerio, wizard mounter works ok for you? Here it segfaults21:08
keriogrammoboy: idk, never tried it21:08
grammoboykerio, k21:08
DocScrutinizer05Pali:  ERRRRR21:09
DocScrutinizer05Pali: is odd, I think21:09
DocScrutinizer05>>V(chg)=Voffset_3.5 + bit2_20mV + bit3_40mV ..... + bit7_640mV<< or maybe not21:10
DocScrutinizer05Pali: anyway - ->"CVr/w2[7:2]"...21:12
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: >>... That is why the driver does refuse settings to >4240mV without special sequence. See sourcecode.<<21:13
DocScrutinizer05Pali: I thought of something like writing value twice in sequence, but second value ++ (aka +1)21:14
DocScrutinizer05I.E. echo 4380 > CV; echo 4381 > CV21:14
DocScrutinizer05any other write access to any of the bq2415x sysfs nodes in between the two voids the "escalation" sequence21:16
DocScrutinizer05now lemme try my math on 9421:17
keriowhat about an internal "leet mode" where you can do weird stuff like that?21:17
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keriolike, a safe_mode that you can echo 0 to to disable those sanity checks21:18
DocScrutinizer05Pali: how about testing mV around line 602,603, rather than val in that location. Way more legible21:19
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: if (mV > (4440)) return -EINVAL;21:20
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: if (mV > (4240)) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true;}21:22
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: if (mV > (4240)) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true; first_escalation_mV = mV}21:23
ShadowJKwhy 4240?21:26
DocScrutinizer05Pali: if (mV > 4240) { if (!wait_for_special_escalation_sequence) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true; first_escalation_mV = mV} else {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = false; if (mV <> --first_escalation_mV) return -EINVAL}}21:27
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: I thought it's a nice value and still safe, just slightly above 420021:27
DocScrutinizer05who's finding any syntax or typo errors may keep it21:29
DocScrutinizer05on a second thought, define first_escalation_mV==0 as !wait_for_special_escalation_sequence21:30
ShadowJKif(mv > 4240 && lastmv-1 != mv) { lastmv=mv; mv=4240; }21:33
Woody14619NO second thoughts for you! ;)21:33
DocScrutinizer05Pali: if (mV > 4240) { if (first_escalation_mV==0) {first_escalation_mV = mV - 1} else { if (mV <> first_escalation_mV) first_escalation_mV=0; return -EINVAL}}21:33
DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: :-D21:33
Woody14619LOL... Couldn't resist.21:34
DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: in THAT case this never been any second thought21:34
DocScrutinizer05I actually never changed my mind regarding standing for council (well modulo the short time when I felt extremely pissed by all those who flamed me)21:35
Woody14619Oh, it's ok... apparently now I'm a power-grabbing person, trying to take over everything, don't-cha-know...21:35
DocScrutinizer05shame on you ;-P21:36
Woody14619You know, for following election rules... and "interpreting" them the same way most sane people would...21:36
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DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: again many thanks for the cochones21:36
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, I've seen it as live as possible, I *felt* it21:37
DocScrutinizer05there's actually a flaw in rules though, which now caused a board of three election when actually 5 are running21:38
Woody14619lol. :) Well, all is in motion now, so...21:38
Woody14619I don't see that as a flaw really.21:38
Woody14619The intent is to have a selection of people vs appointment.21:38
DocScrutinizer05I'd think on exactly 5 candidates the nomination should get extended, but still trying to get 521:39
DocScrutinizer05or more than 5 actually21:39
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DocScrutinizer05then *after* extended nomination you go with 5 w/o voting21:40
DocScrutinizer05my take on spirit of rules21:40
DocScrutinizer05maybe that's just me21:40
DocScrutinizer05the rules are flawed anyway, as they are not clear regarding those "niche" cases21:41
DocScrutinizer05nobody anticipated we'd *ever* run into that situation21:41
Woody14619no, it's actually quite clear.... If there are 5 or fewer, the election is for 3.21:42
Woody14619If there are more than that, the election is for 5.21:42
DocScrutinizer05whatever, would you occasionally add me in on nagain?21:42
DocScrutinizer05you might be right, but it feels paradox21:43
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Woody14619It's also very clear that if there are fewer than 3 after nomination period closes that nomination extend.21:43
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Woody14619The problem is that the wording should be either "before elections begin", or spell out clearly what happens if a nomination is pulled at any time, but especially in the window between nomination close and election start.21:44
DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: and would you send me a mail from your "private" addr, so I could contact you after doom hits me (which God forbid), as I think there's probably little to no help from any other of the current council members for me21:45
Woody14619We'll be adding such to the bylaws in the next revision, as requested in the tmo thread.21:46
DocScrutinizer05ooh, missed that21:46
Woody14619I will pm you on tmo.  No worries... I'm not going anywhere.21:46
* DocScrutinizer05 afk for dinner21:47
DocScrutinizer05damn, 3 thirds of left over for auditing/review21:48
DocScrutinizer05later.... ;-P21:48
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DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: please review (only 5 or 6 lines!)21:50
DocScrutinizer05  \o/ kudos Pali21:52
DocScrutinizer05>>I(term)= (offset_3.4 + bit0_3.4 + bit1_6.8 + bit2_13.6) / R(SNS) [mA] <<21:54
DocScrutinizer05>> Default for R(SNS)=0.068, other can be set values by module parameter. I(chg)= (offset_37.4 + bit4_6.8 + bit5_13.6 + bit6_27.2) / R(SNS) [mA] <<21:54
* DocScrutinizer05 now idly wonders if bq2415x.ko will take parameter like Rsns=0.0821:57
DocScrutinizer05for bq->init_data.resistor_sense;21:57
DocScrutinizer05modprobe bq2415x.ko  Rsns=0.0821:57
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: ^^^22:02
DocScrutinizer05Pali: don't miss previous highlights, I suggested a better solution for
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Woody14619Wow really?22:04
Woody14619My next stop is the "Bob Hope Internaltional Airport".  They named an airport after Bob Hope?  How random.22:05
DocScrutinizer05what? alice? WTF is... bob hope?22:05
Woody14619He was an actor... many many years ago.22:06
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Woody14619Ah... Burbank... Bleh.. I been there before.  It was just Burbank airport back then...  Wonder when it changed names.22:10
Woody14619Anyway.. off I go. Have a nice weekend all.22:10
Lava_CroftWhat sounds better, Burbank or Bob Hope22:10
Woody14619point... ;)22:10
Lava_Croft;) have a nice weekend22:11
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kerioPali: by the way, do you reckon the kernel can be flashed with nandwrite, or do we still need some kind of specific flasher, for that?22:41
kerio(i mean on-device flashing)22:41
DocScrutinizer51kerio: depends on format of image you wanna flash22:42
DocScrutinizer51if nanddump produces a binary identical to your fiasco excerpt, then why should nandwrite fail?22:43
kerioidk, error correction on blocks that have become bad22:44
DocScrutinizer51nandwrite knows that too22:44
kerioDocScrutinizer51: then why does kernel-flasher not use nandwrite?22:45
DocScrutinizer51I suspect there's some fancy header on fiasco stff22:46
DocScrutinizer51maybe even checksums22:46
DocScrutinizer51ask Pali22:46
keriothat's what i did!22:47
DocScrutinizer51he's the 0xffff savvy22:47
Palikerio, flashing on n900 is done by softupd22:47
Paliand it fake raw zImage, it append some header and flash it22:48
Paliwe need to RE that header & it should work22:48
DocScrutinizer51thought as much22:48
kerioPali: what about nandwriting an image that was nanddumped from the device itself?22:48
PaliI think it should work22:49
Palibut never tested22:49
DocScrutinizer51how about simply stripping fancy header?22:49
DocScrutinizer51what became of nandtester?22:50
DocScrutinizer51he ever dared to flash my CAL image?22:51
keriohe got pretty much everything back working, afaik22:51
keriobut idk if he used your CAL image22:51
kerioi've got mine, now :322:51
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kerioi seriously wonder why nokia decided to use such an half-assed format to store configurations22:53
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DocScrutinizer51like CAL?23:09
Palisame reason, why we have 2MB of nand unused23:09
DocScrutinizer51all the el-weirdo hw calib like for ALS is inCAL, so phenix knows how to handle it23:09
Paliwe could have +2MB on rootfs...23:09
DocScrutinizer51or find a hackery use for the initfs partiton23:10
Paliwe can store here uboot :-)23:10
Palior kernel23:11
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mmbushidois there any other phone is awesome as the n900?23:16
DocScrutinizer05dafaq, my N900 stole my posts23:16
DocScrutinizer51I suggested that like 2 years ago23:16
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kerioare there proprietary blobs apart for BME that require cal?23:17
DocScrutinizer51I even asked like 23 times if N900 nolo still tries to load initrd partition23:18
DocScrutinizer05a lot23:18
keriothere's bluetooth-sysinfo but iirc it has an open replacement23:18
DocScrutinizer05there's quite a number of settings around NOLO, bme, dsme(?), cmt, BT, WLAN, in CAL23:20
kerioBT and WLAN are open, bme is replaceable, and i thought cmt had *its own* CAL23:20
DocScrutinizer05strings /dev/mtd1|less23:22
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kerioyou don't have the global one installed? D:23:25
keriodude, spam23:25
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DocScrutinizer05honestly, do strings /dev/mtd1ro|less and wonder23:27
DocScrutinizer05keep in mind CAL usually doesn't delete or overwrite old records23:29
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DocScrutinizer05with >> strings /dev/mtd1ro|less << it's pretty hard to tell what's valid and what's obsolete23:30
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# strings /dev/mtd1|grep  RX-51_2009SE|wc -l23:32
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# strings /dev/mtd1|grep  ConF|wc -l23:33
DocScrutinizer05~spam kerio23:34
* infobot subscribes kerio to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for kerio to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day23:34
Gh0styyou have a metal n900? :p23:35
DocScrutinizer05yes, pure IroN23:35
DocScrutinizer05the other one is way more exciting though: t90023:36
keriohe probably got one of estel's aluminium body replacements >:D23:37
DocScrutinizer05I'm still working on the red glowing eyes23:37
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DocScrutinizer05ut hey, I'm known as skynet, so what else I could name my coprocessors23:38
DocScrutinizer05funny sidenote: I'm yawning23:39
infobotDocScrutinizer05: aw, gee23:40
DocScrutinizer05thanks purl23:40
infobotDocScrutinizer05: gern geschehen23:40
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keriono you didn't23:41
keriooh no you didn't23:42
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!23:42
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infobot- Uptime for purl -23:42
infobotNow: 1m 5s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux23:42
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201023:42
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200923:42
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200923:42
DocScrutinizer05dang, still purl23:42
* infobot appologizes profusely to everyone, points at the spammers, and says: "IT WAS THEM, THEY MADE ME DO IT!!!"23:43
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DocScrutinizer05I'm really missing ~die like usual mortals enjoy it23:48
DocScrutinizer05~literal die23:48
infobot"die" is "<action> takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless."23:48
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, CAL is linked list structure23:48
DocScrutinizer05yeah I know23:49
DocScrutinizer05hard to read for humans23:49
PaliDocScrutinizer05, now I have open source libcal compatible library for reading CAL23:49
DocScrutinizer05#I know23:49
DocScrutinizer05awesome achievement23:49
DocScrutinizer05make that CALedit23:50
PaliDocScrutinizer05, for edit somebody with hexrays should use IDA23:50
Paliin SDK is x86 binary too23:50
DocScrutinizer05also give humaity a proper kevent-mon23:50
DocScrutinizer05cmdline tool23:50
Paliand when I looked into objdump of arm and x86 binary, seems that both are same23:51
Palinokia for unknown reason compiled also x86 binary of libcal...23:51
Palito SDK23:51
DocScrutinizer05autobuilder does that23:51
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Paliping merlin199123:52
DocScrutinizer05you bet Nokia has a cloded autobuilder, they can feed src blobs23:52
Paliping freemangordon23:52
Paliping Sicelo23:53
DocScrutinizer05I'd be more interested in a proper kevent-adm monitor, alike udevadm monitor23:53
DocScrutinizer05onl ymarginally twekaed23:53
DocScrutinizer05only marginally tweked23:53
Paliis there anybody who can test new uboot version?23:54
DocScrutinizer05U know what I meant23:54
DocScrutinizer054 devices23:54
DocScrutinizer05all 210123:54
Palibad, on my 2101 is uboot working23:55
PaliDocScrutinizer05, btw for loading kernel image I'm using now only 0xFFFF :-)23:55
DocScrutinizer05well, maybe all are self-nominating for council elections right now23:55
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Paliday when I shred flasher-3.5 is comming...23:56
DocScrutinizer05Pali: I'll give you a visit that day, bring some Semtex23:56
DocScrutinizer05and a MTHEL (nice offroad car as well)23:56
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DocScrutinizer05if only there wasn't that nasty H2(2)F23:58
DocScrutinizer05or was it H(2)2F?23:58

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