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ruskie | http://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/raspberrypi/ | 08:25 |
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grammoboy | kerio, hm that wizard mounter segfaults here | 11:36 |
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chem|st_ | wtf... why do we even vote? | 12:12 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st_: hey! because voting is democracy | 13:16 |
DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st_: also becasue (I think) the council election rules are kinda flawed to step down to a 3 heads gremium when there are 5 candidates standing | 13:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | this seems kinda contra-productive and paradox | 13:19 |
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chem|st_ | DocScrutinizer51: having only 3 is BS already | 13:45 |
chem|st_ | but who am I to complain... I dont care | 13:45 |
chem|st_ | just in general | 13:45 |
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vi_ | freemangordon: ping | 14:06 |
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freemangordon | vi_: pong | 14:39 |
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Pali | ping freemangordon | 16:02 |
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Pali | freemangordon, do we really need special code for IBE bit in uboot rx51.c? | 16:03 |
Pali | see http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/cpu/armv7/omap3/board.c;h=9cee1d9b490692d02129d98470ba7b57b8e61ce2;hb=HEAD#l238 | 16:03 |
Pali | and http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/cpu/armv7/omap3/board.c;h=9cee1d9b490692d02129d98470ba7b57b8e61ce2;hb=HEAD#l426 | 16:03 |
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Pali | it already calling omap3_update_aux_cr_secure(0xE0, 0); | 16:04 |
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freemangordon | Pali: ROM call parameters differ | 16:39 |
freemangordon | n900 wants 1st parameter to be the number of parapeters+1 | 16:40 |
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freemangordon | bb want 1st to be the number of params | 16:40 |
freemangordon | *want | 16:40 |
freemangordon | *wants | 16:40 |
freemangordon | Pali: btw why bme should be disabled with 3.5.4? | 16:40 |
Pali | freemangordon, because it using maemo specific interface | 16:41 |
freemangordon | ok | 16:41 |
Pali | fast charger detection, ... | 16:41 |
freemangordon | Pali: BTW I got stock PVR driver running with 3.5.4 | 16:41 |
Pali | /dev/twl-madc... | 16:41 |
Pali | freemangordon, nice :-) with hildon opengles? | 16:42 |
freemangordon | Pali: but I did that too, otherwise mce does not start | 16:42 |
freemangordon | Pali: yes, with everything sock in userland | 16:42 |
freemangordon | *stock | 16:42 |
freemangordon | getbootstate wants it too, etc.. | 16:42 |
freemangordon | "/dev/twl4030-adc that is" | 16:43 |
Pali | we need to 1) remove/fix maemo specified apps or 2) port missing kernel interfaces... | 16:43 |
freemangordon | 1 should not be needed | 16:43 |
Pali | freemangordon, can you write somewhere how you changed maemo to run upstream kernel? | 16:43 |
freemangordon | Pali: even cellular modes userland starts :P | 16:43 |
Pali | do you have omap ssi driver? | 16:44 |
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Pali | (that is not upstreamed...) | 16:44 |
freemangordon | Pali: still not ready for that. And i've just realised I've loast my debian/patches directory :(:(:( | 16:44 |
freemangordon | Pali: yes | 16:44 |
freemangordon | but having PVR is the best thing | 16:45 |
Pali | freemangordon, use extundelete for ext2/3 fs | 16:45 |
freemangordon | i just need to tweak a bit led driver and a couple of others | 16:45 |
Pali | I reverted back more deleted files with extundelete | 16:45 |
freemangordon | but i have no clue how that happened | 16:46 |
Pali | add everything to git | 16:46 |
freemangordon | the only thing that comes to my mind is my damn fucking stupid windoze freezed so I had to reset the machine | 16:46 |
freemangordon | Pali: already did that | 16:46 |
freemangordon | now going to do git diff to split the patches | 16:47 |
Pali | now I'm playing with uboot... I rewritten rx51 relocation code | 16:47 |
freemangordon | Pali: so if we have /dev/twl4030-adc bme will run? | 16:47 |
Pali | but uboot not working if starting from other address (after relocation) | 16:47 |
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Pali | freemangordon, somebody wrote that bme using some kernel interface which was deleted in 2.6.32 | 16:48 |
Pali | so maemo bme not running on >= 2.6.32 | 16:48 |
Pali | but I do not know if it is true or not | 16:48 |
Pali | freemangordon, it will really not run - bme depends on some sysfs interfaces on patched maemo musb driver | 16:49 |
freemangordon | Pali: /dev/twl.. is deffinitely missing in upstream, but anyway i added it. | 16:49 |
freemangordon | aah, ok | 16:49 |
freemangordon | makes sense | 16:49 |
Skry | is there a reason why bme should be kept around anyways? remove the old crud! | 16:49 |
freemangordon | Skry: no reaon | 16:50 |
freemangordon | *reason | 16:50 |
Pali | freemangordon, driver which export /dev/twlmadc on maemo was upstreamed, but without that /dev device | 16:50 |
freemangordon | anyway, kernel tree backup is finished, going to resore my patches | 16:50 |
freemangordon | *restore | 16:50 |
Pali | so you need to only add that missing /dev device into driver | 16:50 |
freemangordon | for twl?" | 16:50 |
Pali | twlmadcsomething | 16:51 |
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freemangordon | it takes 5 lines of code | 16:51 |
freemangordon | ok, 15 :D | 16:51 |
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Pali | but really, I do not want to see bme :-) | 16:51 |
Pali | I RE getbootstate and it is possible to remove twlmadc code (and use rx51_battery driver) | 16:52 |
Pali | mce will be problem, but some open source version exists (+ there is also source code of diablo version) | 16:52 |
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freemangordon | Pali: in upstream there is hwmon twl-madc, where all of the channels are exposed | 16:52 |
freemangordon | so we won;t need rx51_battery | 16:53 |
Pali | freemangordon, I forgot about hwmon driver :-) | 16:53 |
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freemangordon | hehe | 16:53 |
Pali | freemangordon, we need to grep 'twl4030-adc' on full n900 rootfs image | 16:54 |
freemangordon | Pali: no need, I told you, add ing twl4030-adc takes 15 lines and no hacks | 16:54 |
Pali | ok | 16:54 |
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freemangordon | will show you the patch later (when I have everything restored) | 16:55 |
Pali | freemangordon, what about create some fremantle kernel driver which export all needed interfaces? it is better to maintain separated driver (and not a lot of patches which needs to be fixed for all new kernel version...) | 16:56 |
freemangordon | hmm, why not | 16:56 |
freemangordon | makes sense | 16:57 |
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Pali | bootreason, component_version, ... | 16:57 |
Pali | twl4030-adc | 16:57 |
freemangordon | yeah, you are right | 16:57 |
freemangordon | hmm, i'll do that | 16:57 |
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Pali | and what did you do with omap gpio switch? | 16:58 |
freemangordon | NFC :D:D:D | 16:58 |
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Pali | in upstream kernel is some other non compatible interface with that | 16:58 |
freemangordon | Pali: please, lemme restore my patches, i'll publish them | 16:59 |
Pali | ok :-) | 16:59 |
freemangordon | Skry: where were hsi and cmt patches? | 17:00 |
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Pali | freemangordon, in my meego patch I disabled platform_device_register(&rx51_gpio_keys_device); (in board-rx51-peripherals.c) & enabled maemo gpio-switch.o driver | 17:01 |
freemangordon | Pali: I didn't do that | 17:01 |
Pali | ok, good | 17:01 |
freemangordon | i used Skry's kernel, ask him what has he did for gpios | 17:02 |
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Pali | I will look at patches... | 17:02 |
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Pali | now building new pre release kernel-power | 17:04 |
kerio | :D | 17:07 |
Hurrian | freemangordon, wait, does 3.5.4 boot Fremantle now? | 17:07 |
kerio | Hurrian: very -ish | 17:08 |
Hurrian | O.M.G. | 17:08 |
Hurrian | ...and that's all I can say about that. | 17:09 |
Hurrian | guessing frrom the chat logs, bme is the only major component that breaks (?) | 17:09 |
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kerio | Hurrian: not really, a lot of stuff is nonworking now | 17:11 |
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Hurrian | ...speaking of Maemo though, a massive part of preinit and rcS-late are unnecessary | 17:16 |
Hurrian | as in, completely replacable with reconfiguration of Fremantle. | 17:17 |
Hurrian | I'm not sure preinit is even necessary, it just very backwardly remounts / and chroots and boots. | 17:17 |
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Hurrian | rcS-late may be excusable for entering into ACT_DEAD mode, and nothing else. | 17:18 |
freemangordon | Hurrian: sure, but I am doing the kernel stuff :P | 17:19 |
freemangordon | and TBH I am not that good in shell scripts ;) | 17:19 |
Hurrian | freemangordon, I know. Just thinking of some tweaks I'm making to Maemo to make it easier to boot on non-UBIFS root | 17:19 |
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Hurrian | because with them, they really complicate everything, by a lot. | 17:20 |
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Hurrian | I'd say ~80% of code in the "if" statements are unused on the N900 | 17:20 |
kerio | Hurrian: yeah, apart for bootmenu and ACT_DEAD, /sbin/preinit basically boils down to exec /sbin/init | 17:20 |
Hurrian | unfortunately, they carried over to harmattan too :( | 17:20 |
Pali | Hurrian, some months ago I started rewriting preinit | 17:21 |
Pali | but never finished... | 17:21 |
Pali | see https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_getbootstate | 17:22 |
Hurrian | Pali, wow, that's a lot more complicated than need be | 17:23 |
Hurrian | preinit ideally shouldn't exist - userspace component in upstart should catch bootreason and set runlevel accordingly | 17:23 |
Hurrian | u-boot bootmenu can provide bootmenu support, and with the right modules, /sbin/init can be executed directly | 17:24 |
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Pali | Hurrian, then you need to move all preinit code into some upstart task | 17:24 |
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Hurrian | Pali, that's the only drawback | 17:26 |
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Pali | are you going to do it? :-) | 17:26 |
Hurrian | with a little fixup, default k-p cmdline can have init=/sbin/init ;) | 17:26 |
kerio | does NOLO pass a cmdline? | 17:27 |
Hurrian | I plan to write a minimal preinit that just mounts /mnt/new_root, and then check if maemo even needs that | 17:27 |
Hurrian | kerio, nope, it's built into kernel at compile time | 17:27 |
Hurrian | it /used/ to, on pre-N900 devices, or so I heard from the old-timers on maemo.org | 17:27 |
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Hurrian | actually, if you read thru preinit, you used to be able to select between internal flash and sd boot, using the built-in bootmenu | 17:29 |
Hurrian | this feature is largely neutered on Fremantle and up, and it's vestiges only add complexity to the system | 17:29 |
Pali | kerio, nolo does not pass any cmdline | 17:31 |
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Pali | Hurrian, in preinit you need to activate some cmt_bsi gpio | 17:32 |
Pali | and set runlevel | 17:32 |
Hurrian | Pali, AIUI though wrt getbootstate, preinit + getbootstate = fremantle getbootstate, right? | 17:32 |
Hurrian | has your harmattan-derived open getbootstate been pulled into CSSU yet? | 17:33 |
Pali | what? | 17:33 |
Hurrian | the getbootstate binary. | 17:33 |
Pali | Hurrian, not my getbootstate is not in cssu | 17:33 |
Hurrian | ah | 17:33 |
Pali | but my getbootstate (patched harmattan) should be compatible with maemo | 17:33 |
Hurrian | oh well, time to take a look at that too | 17:34 |
Pali | it should act same as fremantle binary | 17:34 |
Pali | btw, in my getbootstate there is some bsi number... now we know that it is RAW value of battery capacity | 17:35 |
Pali | and in kernel driver rx51_battery is conversation formula to mAh | 17:35 |
Hurrian | Pali, small steps to replace BME system? | 17:36 |
Pali | Hurrian, it should be possible now | 17:37 |
Pali | kernel drivers working | 17:37 |
Pali | hald-addon-bme too | 17:37 |
Pali | and libbmeipc should work (it was not tested yet) | 17:37 |
Hurrian | All that's needed is charge script to start charging, right? | 17:37 |
Pali | Hurrian, no | 17:37 |
Hurrian | Or does it charge automatically like stock system? | 17:37 |
Pali | only load kernel modules | 17:37 |
Hurrian | ah | 17:38 |
Pali | and kernel modules will automatically start charging when charger is plugged | 17:38 |
Pali | kernel-power v52 will be needed | 17:38 |
Pali | now I'm going to test my new build and then relase it as pre release | 17:38 |
kerio | Pali: i'm going to test it too | 17:39 |
Hurrian | I'll be waiting :). Goodnight, guys. | 17:39 |
Pali | bye | 17:40 |
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Pali | kerio, you can: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1279757#post1279757 | 17:57 |
kerio | Pali: same URIs? | 17:58 |
Pali | yes | 17:58 |
kerio | Pali: btw, are the flashable kernel images in the kernel-power debs? | 18:00 |
kerio | the ones flashable with flasher-3.5 i mean | 18:00 |
Pali | kerio, fiasco image is in kernel-power and classic zImage is in kernel-power-bootimg | 18:01 |
Pali | you can flash both images by flasher-3.5 (with -F fiasco and with -k zImage) | 18:01 |
Pali | but before flashing you need to install modules package | 18:01 |
kerio | alright, installed | 18:01 |
kerio | Pali: i know, i wanted to know the way to recover from a botched kernel update :) | 18:02 |
kerio | Pali: it boots | 18:02 |
jon_y | wait, when was 52 up? | 18:09 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | yoh | 18:12 |
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kerio | sup DocScrutinizer | 18:22 |
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kerio | now, i wonder | 18:24 |
kerio | am i a bad enough dude to install Pali's bme replacement? | 18:24 |
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Pali | kerio, just stop bme & load modules bq2415x_charger and bq27x00_battery and rx51_battery | 18:25 |
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Pali | it will charge battery | 18:25 |
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Pali | and when you want to switch back to bme, just rmmod above modules and start bme | 18:25 |
kerio | Pali: i don't get the battery measurement though :) | 18:27 |
kerio | Pali: when does your replacement system shut down due to low battery? | 18:28 |
kerio | edv1? | 18:28 |
Pali | when you install hald-addon-bme | 18:28 |
kerio | like, edv1 set | 18:28 |
Pali | I tested it and working | 18:28 |
Pali | but I did not tested libbmeipc (used by pulseaudio & dsme for battery temperature) | 18:28 |
kerio | hm | 18:29 |
kerio | Pali: wait, rx51_battery was already loaded | 18:29 |
kerio | i think | 18:29 |
Pali | yes, rx51_battery is autoloading | 18:29 |
Pali | it read values via twlmadc driver | 18:30 |
Pali | and bme has no problem with it | 18:30 |
Pali | so you do not have to rmmod it | 18:30 |
kerio | i see | 18:30 |
kerio | Pali: solid led as soon as i attached the wallcharger | 18:30 |
kerio | how do i check what it's doing? | 18:31 |
Pali | cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq<something> | 18:31 |
Pali | for example file uevent | 18:31 |
Pali | and check capacity or charge now | 18:31 |
kerio | Pali: wait, is uevent supposed to be sourceable from a shellscript? | 18:32 |
kerio | that's REALLY neat | 18:32 |
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Pali | yes, you can cat uevent from shell script | 18:32 |
kerio | no, not catting it :) | 18:32 |
Pali | or you can cat your property file too | 18:32 |
kerio | i meant sourcing | 18:32 |
kerio | as in, . /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/uevent | 18:33 |
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kerio | to get POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS as a variable in your script | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 18:33 |
Pali | kerio, ls /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/ | 18:33 |
kerio | aww, doesn't properly work because there are spaces in the last line :( | 18:33 |
kerio | POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=326 | 18:35 |
kerio | is that in kelvin? :o | 18:35 |
kerio | Pali: POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=2056320 | 18:35 |
kerio | lolnope | 18:35 |
Pali | kerio, bq27200 battery report bad full design | 18:36 |
kerio | hm | 18:36 |
Pali | because this value is in eeprom (and not calibrated in factory) | 18:36 |
kerio | alright, rx51-battery is more sensible | 18:36 |
kerio | 1308238 | 18:36 |
Pali | for design capacity is needed rx51-battery | 18:36 |
kerio | Pali: will h-e-n work with the new modules? | 18:37 |
Pali | kerio, h-e-n not | 18:37 |
Pali | you need to rmmod charger module | 18:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or fix booston ;-) | 18:38 |
Pali | h-e-n using its own userspace "driver" for bq2415x | 18:38 |
kerio | ok screw this, i'm installing the bme replacement | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'm tempted to do exactly that: augment booston so it works regardless of kernel bq24150.ko or bme is used | 18:40 |
kerio | ~closed_packages | 18:40 |
infobot | it has been said that closed_packages is https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages | 18:40 |
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kerio | Pali: hrmpf, do you have some built packages? | 18:42 |
Pali | deb packages not | 18:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ??? | 18:42 |
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kerio | Pali: hmm, shouldn't it be charger_mode host if you are doing usb host with charging? | 18:47 |
kerio | unless you're providing 1A to the n900 *and* powering the usb device | 18:47 |
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Pali | kerio, yes | 18:48 |
kerio | http://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/usbmode/blobs/master/usbmode.sh#line354 | 18:48 |
Pali | kerio, auto is too | 18:52 |
Pali | because fast charger detection is in host mode disabled (in kernel-power by patch) | 18:52 |
kerio | i see | 18:52 |
kerio | neat | 18:52 |
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kerio | Pali: what does it mean for current_now to be -518k? | 18:56 |
kerio | charging at 518mA? | 18:56 |
Pali | yes | 18:56 |
kerio | is that normal? it feels... low :s | 18:56 |
kerio | it's at 70something percent | 18:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: usb_attached() is buggy | 19:12 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, do you have better implementation? | 19:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, for a beginning, delete /var/tmp/lsusb as first action in usb_attached() | 19:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess I could eventually come up with a better implementation, yes | 19:13 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, ok, if you can write better code, then I will not touch it yet | 19:14 |
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kerio | can't you just do lsusb | grep -qv "1d6b:0002" | 19:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | he wants to kill it when it hangs | 19:16 |
kerio | does it do that often? | 19:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :shrug: | 19:17 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | line 200 is ... weird | 19:19 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: looks decent, generally | 19:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not even the usb_attached() is _really_ buggy | 19:37 |
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kerio | DocScrutinizer's seal of "meh" | 19:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 19:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd write some stuff a lil different, but that only means I have differing preferences how shellscripts should look like | 19:41 |
freemangordon | phew, I managed to restore everything :) | 19:42 |
Pali | now uboot can turn off led :-) | 19:43 |
Pali | tested and working | 19:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what I don't like is the fact that there's zero feedback about bq24150 boostmode errors to user | 19:44 |
freemangordon | yay, h-d is here :D:D:D | 19:45 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I think that info about errors can go to hald-addon-bme | 19:45 |
Pali | because hald-addon-bme now parsing /sys/class/power_supply/ | 19:46 |
Pali | freemangordon :-) | 19:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: well, there's still nothing to inform user about the errors, no? | 19:47 |
freemangordon | hmm, it even tries to attach to wireless ;) | 19:47 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, dmesg | 19:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: there's even be the mce boostpattern happily going on | 19:47 |
Pali | and also some sysfs entry | 19:47 |
Pali | hm, I will look at mce pattern | 19:47 |
Pali | now hald-addon-bme handle charging pattern, so adding another should not be problem | 19:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | somebody needs to tear down pattern_boost and maybe rise a notifier when e.g. boostmode stumbles and dies on too high load | 19:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 19:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: brilliant idea | 19:49 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, in bq2415 sysfs there are *_status entires | 19:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much - just nobody reading less watching them | 19:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | kernel aka bq2415x.ko should emit a kevent to let everybody know there occured an exception | 19:51 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer05, now sysfs entry of bq2415x show auto or off (if autoreseting timer is enabled) | 20:08 |
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Pali | and if error occur, then it print error message (instead auto/off) | 20:09 |
Pali | what do you think? | 20:09 |
Pali | if you change timer mode, then error will be cleared | 20:10 |
kerio | Pali: i thought there was a _fault entry already | 20:10 |
freemangordon | hehe, keyboard leds work :P | 20:10 |
Pali | kerio, yes there are _status and fault entries | 20:10 |
Pali | but bq2415x driver must every ?s reset timer | 20:10 |
Pali | and when resetting timer it reading error status and report error message to dmesg | 20:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's an internal thing | 20:11 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: generally you have to do a full reset of bq24150 chip when an error occurred | 20:20 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: and while errors in auto-charge mode might recover with a little help from kernel driver (or even without any, in some cases), for boostmode it definitely needs userland interaction to clear an error | 20:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ideally the kernel driver emits a signal (or does other event which a process could wait() for) when an error occurs | 20:23 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer05, now I patched kernel driver. it will call sysfs_notify on error and cat timer (from userspace will show error message) | 20:24 |
Pali | auto reseting timer then is disabled | 20:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | cool | 20:25 |
Pali | and userspace need to echo off/auto > timer to clear error message | 20:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 20:25 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer05, see: https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/commit/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19 | 20:29 |
freemangordon | ok, mce works, enough for today :D | 20:30 |
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Pali | freemangordon, can you push git repo? | 20:31 |
freemangordon | Pali, not now. And I'll upload the pathches(against vanilla) to merlins server | 20:32 |
Pali | ok | 20:32 |
kerio | Pali: hmm, your charging module seems a bit eager to start charging again, or something like that | 20:34 |
kerio | or maybe hald-addon-bme cheats | 20:35 |
kerio | (the stock one) | 20:35 |
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kerio | Pali: ok, now i'll stop pestering you for a new kp52 build and i'll start pestering you about a bme-rx51-replacement build | 21:04 |
kerio | is that ok? | 21:04 |
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grammoboy | kerio, wizard mounter works ok for you? Here it segfaults | 21:08 |
kerio | grammoboy: idk, never tried it | 21:08 |
grammoboy | kerio, k | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line607 ERRRRR | 21:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line603 is odd, I think | 21:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>V(chg)=Voffset_3.5 + bit2_20mV + bit3_40mV ..... + bit7_640mV<< or maybe not | 21:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: anyway - http://maemo.cloud-7.de/bq24150-sysnode.spec.txt ->"CVr/w2[7:2]"... | 21:12 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: >>... That is why the driver does refuse settings to >4240mV without special sequence. See sourcecode.<< | 21:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I thought of something like writing value twice in sequence, but second value ++ (aka +1) | 21:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. echo 4380 > CV; echo 4381 > CV | 21:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | any other write access to any of the bq2415x sysfs nodes in between the two voids the "escalation" sequence | 21:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | now lemme try my math on 94 | 21:17 |
kerio | what about an internal "leet mode" where you can do weird stuff like that? | 21:17 |
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kerio | like, a safe_mode that you can echo 0 to to disable those sanity checks | 21:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: how about testing mV around line 602,603, rather than val in that location. Way more legible | 21:19 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: if (mV > (4440)) return -EINVAL; | 21:20 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: if (mV > (4240)) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true;} | 21:22 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: if (mV > (4240)) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true; first_escalation_mV = mV} | 21:23 |
ShadowJK | why 4240? | 21:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: if (mV > 4240) { if (!wait_for_special_escalation_sequence) {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = true; first_escalation_mV = mV} else {wait_for_special_escalation_sequence = false; if (mV <> --first_escalation_mV) return -EINVAL}} | 21:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: I thought it's a nice value and still safe, just slightly above 4200 | 21:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | who's finding any syntax or typo errors may keep it | 21:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | on a second thought, define first_escalation_mV==0 as !wait_for_special_escalation_sequence | 21:30 |
ShadowJK | if(mv > 4240 && lastmv-1 != mv) { lastmv=mv; mv=4240; } | 21:33 |
Woody14619 | NO second thoughts for you! ;) | 21:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: if (mV > 4240) { if (first_escalation_mV==0) {first_escalation_mV = mV - 1} else { if (mV <> first_escalation_mV) first_escalation_mV=0; return -EINVAL}} | 21:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: :-D | 21:33 |
Woody14619 | LOL... Couldn't resist. | 21:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: in THAT case this never been any second thought | 21:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I actually never changed my mind regarding standing for council (well modulo the short time when I felt extremely pissed by all those who flamed me) | 21:35 |
Woody14619 | Oh, it's ok... apparently now I'm a power-grabbing person, trying to take over everything, don't-cha-know... | 21:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | suuuuure | 21:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | shame on you ;-P | 21:36 |
Woody14619 | You know, for following election rules... and "interpreting" them the same way most sane people would... | 21:36 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: again many thanks for the cochones | 21:36 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I've seen it as live as possible, I *felt* it | 21:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's actually a flaw in rules though, which now caused a board of three election when actually 5 are running | 21:38 |
Woody14619 | lol. :) Well, all is in motion now, so... | 21:38 |
Woody14619 | I don't see that as a flaw really. | 21:38 |
Woody14619 | The intent is to have a selection of people vs appointment. | 21:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | debatable | 21:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think on exactly 5 candidates the nomination should get extended, but still trying to get 5 | 21:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or more than 5 actually | 21:39 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | then *after* extended nomination you go with 5 w/o voting | 21:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | my take on spirit of rules | 21:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe that's just me | 21:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the rules are flawed anyway, as they are not clear regarding those "niche" cases | 21:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nobody anticipated we'd *ever* run into that situation | 21:41 |
Woody14619 | no, it's actually quite clear.... If there are 5 or fewer, the election is for 3. | 21:42 |
Woody14619 | If there are more than that, the election is for 5. | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, would you occasionally add me in on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_September_2012/Candidate_declarations nagain? | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you might be right, but it feels paradox | 21:43 |
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Woody14619 | It's also very clear that if there are fewer than 3 after nomination period closes that nomination extend. | 21:43 |
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Woody14619 | The problem is that the wording should be either "before elections begin", or spell out clearly what happens if a nomination is pulled at any time, but especially in the window between nomination close and election start. | 21:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: and would you send me a mail from your "private" addr, so I could contact you after doom hits me (which God forbid), as I think there's probably little to no help from any other of the current council members for me | 21:45 |
Woody14619 | We'll be adding such to the bylaws in the next revision, as requested in the tmo thread. | 21:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, missed that | 21:46 |
Woody14619 | I will pm you on tmo. No worries... I'm not going anywhere. | 21:46 |
* DocScrutinizer05 afk for dinner | 21:47 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEEND | 21:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | damn, 3 thirds of https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line603 left over for auditing/review | 21:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | later.... ;-P | 21:48 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: please review https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line525 (only 5 or 6 lines!) | 21:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line632 \o/ kudos Pali | 21:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>I(term)= (offset_3.4 + bit0_3.4 + bit1_6.8 + bit2_13.6) / R(SNS) [mA] << | 21:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >> Default for R(SNS)=0.068, other can be set values by module parameter. I(chg)= (offset_37.4 + bit4_6.8 + bit5_13.6 + bit6_27.2) / R(SNS) [mA] << | 21:54 |
* DocScrutinizer05 now idly wonders if bq2415x.ko will take parameter like Rsns=0.08 | 21:57 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | for bq->init_data.resistor_sense; | 21:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe bq2415x.ko Rsns=0.08 | 21:57 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ^^^ | 22:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: don't miss previous highlights, I suggested a better solution for https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bq2415x_charger/blobs/b81b6e499d1e283853eaf756577bee1d74272f19/bq2415x_charger.c#line607 | 22:03 |
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Woody14619 | Wow really? | 22:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 22:05 |
Woody14619 | My next stop is the "Bob Hope Internaltional Airport". They named an airport after Bob Hope? How random. | 22:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what? alice? WTF is... bob hope? | 22:05 |
Woody14619 | He was an actor... many many years ago. | 22:06 |
Woody14619 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope | 22:07 |
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Woody14619 | Ah... Burbank... Bleh.. I been there before. It was just Burbank airport back then... Wonder when it changed names. | 22:10 |
Woody14619 | Anyway.. off I go. Have a nice weekend all. | 22:10 |
Lava_Croft | What sounds better, Burbank or Bob Hope | 22:10 |
Woody14619 | point... ;) | 22:10 |
Lava_Croft | ;) have a nice weekend | 22:11 |
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kerio | Pali: by the way, do you reckon the kernel can be flashed with nandwrite, or do we still need some kind of specific flasher, for that? | 22:41 |
kerio | (i mean on-device flashing) | 22:41 |
DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: depends on format of image you wanna flash | 22:42 |
DocScrutinizer51 | if nanddump produces a binary identical to your fiasco excerpt, then why should nandwrite fail? | 22:43 |
kerio | idk, error correction on blocks that have become bad | 22:44 |
DocScrutinizer51 | nandwrite knows that too | 22:44 |
kerio | DocScrutinizer51: then why does kernel-flasher not use nandwrite? | 22:45 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I suspect there's some fancy header on fiasco stff | 22:46 |
DocScrutinizer51 | stuff* | 22:46 |
DocScrutinizer51 | maybe even checksums | 22:46 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ask Pali | 22:46 |
kerio | that's what i did! | 22:47 |
DocScrutinizer51 | he's the 0xffff savvy | 22:47 |
Pali | kerio, flashing on n900 is done by softupd | 22:47 |
Pali | and it fake raw zImage, it append some header and flash it | 22:48 |
Pali | we need to RE that header & it should work | 22:48 |
DocScrutinizer51 | thought as much | 22:48 |
kerio | Pali: what about nandwriting an image that was nanddumped from the device itself? | 22:48 |
Pali | I think it should work | 22:49 |
Pali | but never tested | 22:49 |
DocScrutinizer51 | how about simply stripping fancy header? | 22:49 |
DocScrutinizer51 | what became of nandtester? | 22:50 |
DocScrutinizer51 | he ever dared to flash my CAL image? | 22:51 |
kerio | he got pretty much everything back working, afaik | 22:51 |
kerio | but idk if he used your CAL image | 22:51 |
kerio | i've got mine, now :3 | 22:51 |
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kerio | i seriously wonder why nokia decided to use such an half-assed format to store configurations | 22:53 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | like CAL? | 23:09 |
DocScrutinizer51 | legacy | 23:09 |
Pali | same reason, why we have 2MB of nand unused | 23:09 |
DocScrutinizer51 | all the el-weirdo hw calib like for ALS is inCAL, so phenix knows how to handle it | 23:09 |
Pali | we could have +2MB on rootfs... | 23:09 |
DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 23:10 |
DocScrutinizer51 | or find a hackery use for the initfs partiton | 23:10 |
Pali | we can store here uboot :-) | 23:10 |
Pali | or kernel | 23:11 |
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mmbushido | is there any other phone is awesome as the n900? | 23:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, my N900 stole my posts | 23:16 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I suggested that like 2 years ago | 23:16 |
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kerio | are there proprietary blobs apart for BME that require cal? | 23:17 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I even asked like 23 times if N900 nolo still tries to load initrd partition | 23:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a lot | 23:18 |
kerio | there's bluetooth-sysinfo but iirc it has an open replacement | 23:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's quite a number of settings around NOLO, bme, dsme(?), cmt, BT, WLAN, in CAL | 23:20 |
kerio | BT and WLAN are open, bme is replaceable, and i thought cmt had *its own* CAL | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | strings /dev/mtd1|less | 23:22 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ConF | 23:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | lock_code | 23:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 12345 | 23:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 23:23 |
kerio | heh | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | content-ver | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ({w!lA | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wRX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.UK-IRELAND | 23:24 |
kerio | whaaaaaaaaaaaaat | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sw-release-ver | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.44-1_PR_MR0 | 23:25 |
kerio | you don't have the global one installed? D: | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ConF | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | kernel-ver | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | MD2.6.28-20093204eno3+0m5 | 23:25 |
kerio | dude, spam | 23:25 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, do strings /dev/mtd1ro|less and wonder | 23:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ConF | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | kernel-ver | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | MD2.6.28-20093204eno3+0m5 | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | keep in mind CAL usually doesn't delete or overwrite old records | 23:29 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | with >> strings /dev/mtd1ro|less << it's pretty hard to tell what's valid and what's obsolete | 23:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# strings /dev/mtd1|grep RX-51_2009SE|wc -l | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 19 | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# strings /dev/mtd1|grep ConF|wc -l | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 63 | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~spam kerio | 23:34 |
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Gh0sty | you have a metal n900? :p | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, pure IroN | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the other one is way more exciting though: t900 | 23:36 |
kerio | he probably got one of estel's aluminium body replacements >:D | 23:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still working on the red glowing eyes | 23:37 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ut hey, I'm known as skynet, so what else I could name my coprocessors | 23:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | funny sidenote: I'm yawning | 23:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 23:40 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee | 23:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks purl | 23:40 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: gern geschehen | 23:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | meh! | 23:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~die | 23:41 |
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kerio | WAT | 23:41 |
kerio | no you didn't | 23:41 |
kerio | oh no you didn't | 23:42 |
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infobot | DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 23:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 23:42 |
infobot | - Uptime for purl - | 23:42 |
infobot | Now: 1m 5s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 23:42 |
infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 23:42 |
infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 23:42 |
infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 23:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dang, still purl | 23:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~sorry | 23:43 |
* infobot appologizes profusely to everyone, points at the spammers, and says: "IT WAS THEM, THEY MADE ME DO IT!!!" | 23:43 | |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I'm really missing ~die like usual mortals enjoy it | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal die | 23:48 |
infobot | "die" is "<action> takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless." | 23:48 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer05, CAL is linked list structure | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah I know | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hard to read for humans | 23:49 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, now I have open source libcal compatible library for reading CAL | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | #I know | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | awesome achievement | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | make that CALedit | 23:50 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, for edit somebody with hexrays should use IDA | 23:50 |
Pali | in SDK is x86 binary too | 23:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | also give humaity a proper kevent-mon | 23:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | cmdline tool | 23:50 |
Pali | and when I looked into objdump of arm and x86 binary, seems that both are same | 23:51 |
Pali | nokia for unknown reason compiled also x86 binary of libcal... | 23:51 |
Pali | to SDK | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | autobuilder does that | 23:51 |
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Pali | ping merlin1991 | 23:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you bet Nokia has a cloded autobuilder, they can feed src blobs | 23:52 |
Pali | ping freemangordon | 23:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | closed* | 23:52 |
Pali | ping Sicelo | 23:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be more interested in a proper kevent-adm monitor, alike udevadm monitor | 23:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | onl ymarginally twekaed | 23:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | only marginally tweked | 23:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq | 23:54 |
Pali | is there anybody who can test new uboot version? | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | U know what I meant | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 2101 | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 4 devices | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | all 2101 | 23:54 |
Pali | bad, on my 2101 is uboot working | 23:55 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05, btw for loading kernel image I'm using now only 0xFFFF :-) | 23:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe all are self-nominating for council elections right now | 23:55 |
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Pali | day when I shred flasher-3.5 is comming... | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I'll give you a visit that day, bring some Semtex | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and a MTHEL (nice offroad car as well) | 23:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | if only there wasn't that nasty H2(2)F | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or was it H(2)2F? | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Di-Deuterium-Flouride | 23:59 |
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