IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-10-11

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DocScrutinizer05[general notice] Nomination period for council elections extended til 2012-10-28. PLEASE CONSIDER NOMINATING yourself or others! see:
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*** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "Welcome to #maemo -- COUNCIL ELECTIONS nomination period extended til 10-28! Dare to stand! -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | | Source: | Chanlog: | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet"01:16
timelessanyone here happen to speak swedish?01:16
timelessRaimu: ooh, nice01:16
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DocScrutinizer05timeless: how's about standing for council?01:17
timelessvery funny01:17
DocScrutinizer05you are one of the mammouts01:17
deepytimeless: I do01:17
timelessdeepy: ooh01:17
timelessso, most languages will write distances like:01:17
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: shutup!! ;-)01:17
timeless"20 km" "100 km"01:17
timelessis swedish more likely to write "20km" "100km" ?01:17
deepyYes, but I'll have to double check that one01:18
timelessplease :)01:18
DocScrutinizer05if it's 20km, why would some Swedish write "100km"?01:19
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DocScrutinizer05ooh, it's about the space in between01:20
timelessi have an app that analyzes translations, and i noticed a discrepancy between Swedish and everything else01:20
timelessDocScrutinizer05: =)01:20
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DocScrutinizer05in German it's without space I guess01:20
DocScrutinizer05anyway in German it's km/h, not kmh or similar BS01:21
timelessis the output from my app based on some version of google earth's localization files01:22
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DocScrutinizer05hey, you know I worked for Siemens with Navi voice which been my domain?01:23
DocScrutinizer05sounds *very* similar01:23
DocScrutinizer05really funny to record all the shit again because we forgot/mis-took one single word, for one language01:24
deepytimeless: it's more likely to be 100km01:25
DocScrutinizer05(you know you can't construct smooth-sounding sentences from words recorded on differnet days)01:25
timelessdeepy: without the space01:25
deepyI did a blind test with 3 friends01:26
deepythey all went "Hmm, that has to be personal preference" but all opted for 100km01:26
DocScrutinizer05have fun in the Americas, with their M iles01:27
timelessDocScrutinizer05: this has nothing to do w/ miles v. km01:27
timelessand everything about how spaces are applied01:27
timelessjust interesting to see that swedish (and not german!) omits the space01:27
timelesssee the html i pastebin'd01:28
DocScrutinizer05well, swedish (or $random) omitting space (or not) is minor to some funny weirdos apllying a different metrics01:28
* timeless shrugs01:29
DocScrutinizer05we had quite some fun with GB back when01:29
DocScrutinizer05and not only for their "wrong" side to drive on01:30
DocScrutinizer05(navi - you see?)01:30
deepytimeless: do I now appear in any CREDITS.txt as Swedish locale expert?01:33
deepyor Internationalization expert in Swedish01:33
timelesssorry, this is just using my tool against a random unrelated party's data as sample input01:34
deepyIt's okay, I already have a fancy title at work01:34
timelessbut if i have a swedish question in the future, i'm now more likely to ask here, i may or may not remember that you helped me, but i'll remember that this channel worked01:34
deepyooh, you should probably remember my nickname instead01:34
deepyI am on IRC at random times01:35
deepyand I'm in more than 450 channels01:35
* timeless updates Opera for n90001:38
timelessDocScrutinizer05: for the record, i'm fairly certain my employer would object01:40
DocScrutinizer05quite nasty bemployer01:40
DocScrutinizer05or not01:41
DocScrutinizer05deepy: my fancy title is my nick on IRC ;-)01:42
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DocScrutinizer05deepy: WUT???? fourhunderedandfitty chans??01:43
deepyYeah, it went down a bit when I changed to irssi01:44
DocScrutinizer05dafaq, I start getting mad on my 3001:44
DocScrutinizer05well, I'm chanop on 20 of them01:44
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ketassomehow, "proper n9 channels" are mostly idle01:47
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DocScrutinizer05proper #n9 channel is mine :-/01:52
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DocScrutinizer05like to become co-chanop?01:52
DocScrutinizer05ketas: I'd love to share responsibility - I really fail on taking care about that channel01:54
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ketasirc channels are easier to take care of than people and animals02:08
Gh0sty00:44 < DocScrutinizer05> dafaq, I start getting mad on my 3002:10
Gh0stythis is channel 20 of ... 32 :p02:10
DocScrutinizer05ketas: only until kerio comes in ;-P02:12
ketaswhat does kerio do02:13
DocScrutinizer05I admit freenode is doing an *extremely* good job to keep spam-bots and the like out, since >1year now02:13
DocScrutinizer05kerio: ^^^ what do you do? ;-P02:14
DocScrutinizer05well, s/kerio/e.*_/02:14
DocScrutinizer05nah, nevermind kerio, he's occasionally in a trolling mood, but he's actually a valuable community meber02:16
ketasa weirdo02:17
* ketas pats kerio 02:17
DocScrutinizer05while estel_ and me are the neutrinos and anti-matter of the maemo universe02:18
ketaswhat happens if they are removed02:18
ketasprobably everything blows up02:19
DocScrutinizer05nothing, everybody will be more happy02:19
DocScrutinizer05if you remove both same moment02:19
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DocScrutinizer05but, if you maybe got that wrong, mine is the neutrino part. and my ubiquity diminuished during last 9 moths to maybe 10%, without anybody really noticing02:22
DocScrutinizer05you still dunno where and when and how much I am, but evidently I got less relevant02:23
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* DocScrutinizer05 checks latest funny embroilments on tmo council election thread, then vanishes into a parallel universe for another 29.5h02:26
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: :3 :3 :308:16
kerioketas: also remember08:16
infobotyou are probably <DocScrutinizer> [...] kerio is correct [...]08:16
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zsoltgoo morning!could somebody tell me,that is it possible to boot maemo 5 from sd card?09:54
zsoltfound some outdated articles about n800 which doesn't work with n90009:54
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Sicelobootmenu, mutliboot (troublesome, aiui), and flasher10:35
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ketaskerio is wrong!14:35
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kerioketas: i'm not17:35
kerioketas: ever17:35
kerioexcept when i am17:35
ketasi heard you're weird often17:35
teotwakiPrometheus is a shit movie17:36
ketasdoes n9 have maybe something inside that gives me backdoor access to locked phone? :P17:37
kerioketas: Inception, i heard17:41
keriobut #harmattan17:41
keriowhat kind of backdoor access?17:42
ketaswell, to get lock off17:43
keriowhat lock?17:43
FIQanyone using gpSP here?17:43
ketasi don't want to flash content away too17:43
ketaskerio: well, this is used phone, i opened track & protect on that17:44
ketasso i have security lock prompt on17:44
FIQfrom completly different sources I've been told to do contradicting things to solve one problem I have regarding save format, of which one didn't work, and one another thing I don't really know what the person did17:44
jaskaoops, wrong channel :|17:44
kerioketas: in #harmattan you'll probably find more people that have a N917:45
FIQmy problem is basically that the game I'm playing requires flash 128K to work properly, and such setting seems missing from it17:45
ketasmore idleness there17:45
ketaskerio: well, i'm assuming all those nokia n* devices that run linux are somewhat similar?17:46
FIQI tried VGBA before, which allowed me to solve the problem by setting "Flashrom ID" manually with only minor corruptions.. but that emulator had other problems regarding both speed and lack of nice configuration17:46
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kerioketas: not the n9, it's meego17:46
keriobut with the harmattan interface on top17:46
ketasthat can't make much difference17:48
FIQaccording to various sources, gpspm (w/o GUI) had this working out of the box, but I tried to execute it that way to no avail (might have missed something though), another one tell me to generate a .sav from a desktop emulator (like VBA-M), which actually seems to have created a save file ("WARNING! Saving will erase previous save file!"), but still refuses to load it17:48
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grammoboyno autofs on my n900?18:17
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grammoboyI want to setup nfs client18:21
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keriogrammoboy: no autofs, no18:23
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grammoboykerio, other way to mount nfs?18:24
kerioidk, mount -t nfs18:24
grammoboykerio, as root?18:24
grammoboythat's the only way?18:24
keriothat's the usual way to use a nfs export18:25
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kerioto be fair you should also run portmap18:26
kerioinstall wizard mounter, it should do that kind of stuff by itself18:27
kerioyou should also install kernel-power18:27
grammoboykernel-power for nfs?18:28
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reenignEesreveRcan i run asterisk as a sip server on maemo so that i can connect to the phone using sip client and use the phone remotely from a soft interface or whatsoever18:33
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grammoboykerio, why should i install kernel-power exactly?18:35
kerioso you have the nfs module18:35
grammoboykerio, is it a kernel?18:36
keriowith a bunch of extra stuff18:36
grammoboyso I need to reboot18:36
grammoboyshould I modprobe something?18:39
kerioinstall nfs-common, portmap and kernel-power18:39
keriothen /etc/init.d/nfs-common start && /etc/init.d/portmap start18:39
kerioand then mount away18:39
kerioi just rebooted, they're not started manually18:40
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