IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2012-09-30

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spoofyIs there enyone who install rvm? Maybe it's possible to install ruby1.9.x with rvm.00:18
spoofyanyone?00:18
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DocScrutinizer05anybody seen any new mail on {community] today? Or is that normal when there's not a single mail in 24h?00:21
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gregoaDocScrutinizer05: there can be weeks without any mail on -community :)00:40
DocScrutinizer05hmm ok. I didn't follow any of those ML lately00:41
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gregoaDocScrutinizer05: most people don't, that's why the MLs are so empty :)00:43
* gregoa doesn't understand why people prefer a webforum over a ML. but well.00:43
nox-oh yeah, webforums keep reminding me of fidonet...00:44
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* nox- even uses a local nntpd for a few mailinglists, a proper nntp client is nicer to use than webforums...00:45
nox-too bad the young folks dont want to know :)00:46
* gregoa nods00:46
DocScrutinizer05well, otoh there are funny lusers who post HTML mails to ML00:48
nox-oh yeah00:48
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DocScrutinizer05OHLOL, the oldest worst SPAM once again "your 2.800.000,00$ are waiting on an ATM card, just send your name, addr and this code to following addr, together with 155$ for processing, to confirm your addr and make tthem send the ATM card to you"  MUHAHAHA00:53
DocScrutinizer05dhl_courier_service_benin1@yahoo.com00:55
DocScrutinizer05suuuuuure00:55
ZogG_laptop /bans01:00
ZogG_laptopoops wrong chan :P01:00
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DocScrutinizer05no valid command: bans01:13
DocScrutinizer05so, not only wrong chan but wrong network, and also wrong syntax to add a leading space01:15
teotwaki__why wrong network?01:15
teotwaki__could be his client that provides that command.01:16
DocScrutinizer05maybe01:18
DocScrutinizer05but then, why wrong chan?01:18
DocScrutinizer05I think he meant "wrong chan tab in my IRC client" since he maybe has several networks connected01:19
DocScrutinizer05dunno if there are clients that offer per-chan-user-defined-commands01:20
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teotwaki__DocScrutinizer05: what the hell have you been smoking?01:58
teotwaki__DocScrutinizer05: maybe he just wanted to list the banned users on another channel01:58
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DocScrutinizer05maybe02:12
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RST38hthe former U.S. Register of Copyrights, Ralph Oman, has given an amicus brief in the Aereo case (PDF) stating that all new content-delivery technology should be presumed illegal unless and until it is approved by Congress. He adds that providers of new technology should be forced to apply to Congress to prove they don't upset existing business models.02:36
jaskarotfl.02:37
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narcosHi all.02:44
narcosI'd like to convert some text to hex with sed + xxd. I can't quite figure it out. Something like :  echo  "hello there my friend" | sed "s/\hello(.*\)friend/`echo \1 |xxd -p`/"02:44
DocScrutinizer05hmm02:48
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DocScrutinizer05the sed parameter looks pretty odd02:50
narcosYeah, it's not right at all02:51
DocScrutinizer05maybe you meant "s/hello\(.*\)friend/`echo \1 |xxd -p`/"02:51
narcosCan't figure out how to reference the \1 variable properly02:51
DocScrutinizer05but that still doesn't make immediate sense to me02:51
narcosah right, yeah a typo there too02:51
narcosBasically I want to convert "there my" to hex02:52
DocScrutinizer05echo  "hello there my friend" | sed "s/hello\(.*\)friend/\1/"|xxd02:54
DocScrutinizer05hth02:54
narcosHmm, but then I lose the start and end :) Sorry I'm not being very clear am I. Given input: "hello there my friend", desired output "hello 7468657265206d790a friend"02:56
DocScrutinizer05if yu wanna use `execute-me` in a commandline in a parameter to sed, you either have to know what you're doing since the execution of the execute-me is done *before* sed even gets started, and sed sees the result/output of execute-me, or you have to escape the ` like \\` to get them in output02:58
narcosAhhh OK02:58
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gregoanarcos: if it can be perl: echo "hello there my friend" | perl -pe 's/(hello )(.+)( friend)/${1} . unpack("H*", $2) . ${3}/e'03:11
narcosgregoa: Ahhh great! I was on the Perl path, but hadn't quite gotten it yet03:13
narcosThanks03:13
gregoanp :)03:13
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DocScrutinizer05echo  "hello there my friend" | sed "s/\(hello\)\(.*\)\(friend\)/echo -n \1; echo \2|xxd -p|sed 's%\(.*\)\$%\1%'; echo \3/"|sh03:17
DocScrutinizer05but I'm still not happy with the second sed (it simply doesn't cut the \n )03:17
narcosDocScrutinizer05: Ah, nice chaining03:21
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DocScrutinizer05narcos: http://pastebin.ca/223332703:35
DocScrutinizer05narcos: ^^^ made it more complicated than needed, assuming "hello" and " friend" are no constant strings that could simply get hardcoded03:36
DocScrutinizer05dang, forget the first 10 lines, it's only line 11-20 which are relevant03:39
narcosDocScrutinizer05: Ahhh, brilliant, thank you!03:42
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narcosOr, 5468616e6b20796f75206d7920667269656e64210a03:42
DocScrutinizer05and of course you could write >> result=$(echo -n $result; echo $a|sed 's/.*\( f.*\)/\1/') << as well like >> result=$result$(echo $a|sed 's/.*\( f.*\)/\1/')03:42
narcosok gotcha03:43
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DocScrutinizer05narcos: here's yet another one:  echo  -n "hello there my friend" | sed "s/\(hello\)\(.*\)\(friend\)/echo -n \1; echo -n \2|xxd -ps|tr -d '\n'; echo -n \3/"|sh04:19
* DocScrutinizer05 gets senile, couldn't recall name of command tr, needed info pages to look it up04:24
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DocScrutinizer05konqueror is awesome: "info:/coreutils/Operating on characters"04:25
DocScrutinizer05or short: ##coreutils04:26
DocScrutinizer05even shorter: ##, if you're completely lost04:26
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DocScrutinizer05# is also nice04:26
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DocScrutinizer05(the "see also:" section are real links in konqueror04:27
DocScrutinizer05)04:27
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befordmm14:04
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Pali~seen jonwil14:57
infobotjonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 27d 1h 29m 5s ago, saying: 'yay, my N900 is finally fixed :)'.14:57
SpeedEvil:'(14:59
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Paliwhere is jonwil?15:21
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vi_yo15:35
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deeDd15:45
DocScrutinizer05deedd15:45
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vi_I am typing this from an old ipaq spp BT keyboard!15:52
vi_It is more exciting than it should be.15:52
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vi_sswhoaah15:54
vi_even the blu function key in the kbd works the same as the n900 kbd!15:55
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dhbikerhi16:08
dhbikerwhat is the package name of Community SSU Enabler ?16:09
DocScrutinizer05irrelevant16:09
dhbikererr16:09
dhbikeri'm still having that issue16:09
DocScrutinizer05visit  http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU and install it from there, there are one-click-install buttons16:10
dhbikerno valid internet connections when i install CSSU testing16:10
dhbikerso i cant really connect to internet16:10
DocScrutinizer05then you're out of luck. Offline installation not supported16:11
dhbikerYAY! lucky me16:11
keriowhat do you mean no valid internet connections?16:11
kerioICD2 stops working? D:16:11
dhbikermeans i cant select anything16:12
DocScrutinizer05IF that's the case, no CSSU will fix that16:12
dhbikeras an internet connection16:12
vi_is there an automatic bluetooth keyboard package?16:12
dhbikerDocScrutinizer05: it works fine before this latest update16:13
vi_right now I have to rfcomm connect then manually run kbdd.16:13
ShadowJKindeed, trying to install cssu (or anything at all) onto a broken system is unadvisable :)16:13
DocScrutinizer05then roll back to state before that update16:13
dhbikerits not broken...16:13
keriovi_: http://maemo.org/packages/view/extkbd/ maybe16:13
DocScrutinizer05though there's not a single additional report like yours, afaik16:14
dhbikernot sure yet why it happens but it happens after this latest CSSU-T update16:14
DocScrutinizer05so odds are it's not related to the update (whatever that was), but rather to something unique to yur hw/sw config16:15
DocScrutinizer05plus CSSU-T didn't even touch anything ICD related afaik16:15
DocScrutinizer05for good reason, I have to add16:16
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, so, you're throwing your hat in the ring?16:16
kerioDocScrutinizer05: osso-wlan 3.0.20.1+0cssu216:16
DocScrutinizer05but there *might* be other changes in cssu-t that cause breakage in some weird nasty connection manager package you might have installed16:17
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: they tricked me, yeah :-/16:17
dhbikeri have nothing special installed16:17
keriodhbiker: do you use autodisconnect or wifiswitcher16:17
kerioor something like that16:17
DocScrutinizer05kerio: rrright, but afaik that's old16:17
dhbikerkerio: only widget for disabling the wifi yes16:18
keriodhbiker: i think it's the issue here16:18
DocScrutinizer05might conflict with packet injection stuff though. Not sure if that aspect got tested16:18
dhbikerhm16:19
dhbikeri'll test that later16:19
dhbikeri have to go now16:19
DocScrutinizer05(though it's meant to faciliate pkt inj, so it would be rather funny if it breaks stuff instead when the hacker apps rush in)16:19
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: I'll nominate you :-D16:20
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kerioGeneralAntilles: DocScrutinizer05 is our eternal leader! heil joerg! o/16:20
DocScrutinizer05kerio: you're not makeing friends like that16:20
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, nominate all you want, I'm not accepting. :P16:21
DocScrutinizer05but well, maybe it disgusts a few voters so much that they think twice before they vote for me, so please go on16:21
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: but.. but...16:22
DocScrutinizer05you CANT reject16:23
GeneralAntilleslol16:25
GeneralAntillesI think historical precedence is with me.16:25
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Paliping freemangordon16:42
DocScrutinizer05well, then I hope you'll be available for a position as my personal councilor, when it hits me16:42
DocScrutinizer05:-)16:42
DocScrutinizer05honestly your experience would've been needed right now16:43
Palifreemangordon, now I'm testing hald-addon-bme. I fixed one bug (bad detection of empty state), but there is problem with maemo statusbar applet...16:43
Palistatusbar applet does not show any messages (like battery to low or charger disconnected)16:44
Palibut I see all dbus messages in dbus-monitor16:44
Palineed to RE status-area-applet-battery.so and understand why...16:45
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kerioPali: or rewrite it16:45
Paliwe should understand how to send information about battery empty status16:45
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Palinow hald-addon-bme sending dbus signal about low/empty state16:46
DocScrutinizer05Pali: wrong dbus maybe? or wrong address?16:46
Palisame address16:46
ShadowJKDo you have any writeup of the dbus messages?16:46
Palias binary bme16:46
DocScrutinizer05Pali: run-standalone.sh thing related?16:46
PaliI think no16:47
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Palidbus-monitor show same dbus messages for our implementation and bme16:47
DocScrutinizer05hmm16:47
Palibattery is empty is handled by DSME, so I'm sending to dsme info --> and this is working dsme turn device off16:48
Palibut that stupid statusbar does not show any message...16:48
DocScrutinizer05FFS16:48
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DocScrutinizer05well, is it actually the statusbar thingie that shows those?16:48
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DocScrutinizer05or does it simply send another msg to hildon-notifierd or whatever?16:49
DocScrutinizer05btw I guess those are signals (null destination addr), not msgs from A to B16:50
PaliI looked at bme and hald-addon-bme and they sending only dbus messages which sending our implementation...16:50
ShadowJKis there other path of communication too?16:50
ShadowJKiirc for Mer during N8x0 times the mer battery statusbar didnt use dbus16:50
DocScrutinizer05signals can get acted upon by arbitrary monitors on dbus16:51
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PaliShadowJK, can you give me link for that statusbar?16:51
ShadowJKoh wait, it was hald-addon-bme that did non-dbus communication with bme16:51
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: how's about running for council?16:52
ShadowJKno16:52
DocScrutinizer05pretty clear16:52
ShadowJKhttp://gitorious.org/mer-toggles/hald-addon-bme16:52
DocScrutinizer05don't think I enjoy the results of temporary mental blackout yesterday16:53
PaliShadowJK, I know about that hal addon16:53
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Paliour implementation is based on that16:54
DocScrutinizer05it's just too embarrassing to step down now16:54
Palistatus-area-applet-battery.so is 24K... somebody with ida can disassemble it?16:55
DocScrutinizer05maybe another twoo weeks will readjust the weights on embarrassment and anticipated/already-felt pain16:55
DocScrutinizer05kerio help a lot in that regard ;-)16:56
* DocScrutinizer05 waits for kerio calling him adolf instead of doc16:56
DocScrutinizer05"our eternal leader" PFFFFF16:57
kerioJesusScrutinizer0516:57
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DocScrutinizer05you know that one vanished after 4 weeks17:01
DocScrutinizer05iirc17:02
DocScrutinizer05or was it 40 days?17:02
kerioafter 33 years17:02
DocScrutinizer05ooh, then I'm already decades on retirement17:03
DocScrutinizer05sitting here with my MTHELS at left hand, and my IT parc on my right hand... errr that's not exactly precise17:04
* DocScrutinizer05 looks for the HUGE wate tap to open17:06
* DocScrutinizer05 hums Fripp&Gabriel "when the flood comes" and heads out for RL17:08
DocScrutinizer05actually "here comes the flood"17:09
DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8iDnKJDss17:10
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Guest57704Has anybody azimuth working? http://blog.desmottes.be/post/2010/04/25/Introducing-Azimuth-for-Maemo It worked for me in the past, but stopped some time back. Not sure if that was CSSU related...18:05
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Cor-Ai:)18:20
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dhbikerkerio: uninstalling wifi widget didnt help18:50
dhbikeror do i have to do it before updating ?18:50
kerioi think you have to do it before updating18:51
keriobut idk18:51
dhbikeroh ok18:51
dhbikeri'll try that too18:51
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kerioaww, i want to buy a game gripper18:53
keriobut it doesn't work with a case18:54
dhbikerlol18:54
kerioand i do love my otterbox18:54
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DocScrutinizer51dhbiker: kerio: former reports suggest that all those connection managers mess up system files and don't uninstall cleanly19:15
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DocScrutinizer51so only reliable recovery path so far been a reflash19:16
keriohm, i thought wifiswitcher uninstalled fine, if you uninstall it when the wifi is on19:16
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dhbikerseriously ?19:17
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DocScrutinizer51I don'r have detailed records about all the reports of breakage here during last 2 years19:27
DocScrutinizer51general assumption: this class of apps is usually implemented in an unclean way, since for such apps the unclean way is the only feasible way19:28
DocScrutinizer51(reports) there were quite a few anyway19:29
DocScrutinizer51and every single one I recall ended with "I reflashed, now finally it works again. Many thanks"19:30
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vi__hello19:49
vi__who here is familliar with bluetooth keyboards?19:49
vi__I can connect to it with rfcomm.19:49
vi__Then make it work with kbdd.19:50
vi__I can type stuff etc.19:50
keriovi__: have you tried extkbd?19:50
vi__Is there a more 'seamless' way of making it work?19:50
vi__yes I have extkb.19:50
kerioit doesn't help? :(19:51
vi__but I do not understand what it does exactly.19:51
Siceloi think freemangordon may help there19:51
vi__rfcomm lets me make a profile for the keyboard right?19:51
vi__where I enter the mac address.19:52
vi__This makes the keyboard always appear on the correct /dev/rfcomm19:52
vi__right?19:52
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CodenameStrike-NBluetooth keyboards?19:53
keriobluetooth keyboards!19:53
vi__then in /etc/bluetooth/kbdd.conf you set your KB type and rfcomm number.19:54
CodenameStrike-NI have at least, but I can't remember whether I had any packages from repos19:54
CodenameStrike-Nto facilitate the addition of one19:54
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vi__so what do I use to initiate the connection to the KB when I want it?19:54
CodenameStrike-NI tried that during my work as a retail assistant on several devices19:54
CodenameStrike-Nall seem to be seamless19:55
CodenameStrike-Nnot sure, there was a package in the repos19:55
CodenameStrike-NI can't remember19:55
keriovi__: tried just connecting to the keyboard?19:55
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CodenameStrike-Nat most probably you'll have to set the access pin as 000019:57
vi__kerio: how do I  do that?19:57
keriovi__: from the bluetooth menu, devices, <your keyboard>, settings, connect19:57
kerioor something19:57
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CodenameStrike-Nhave you set the keyboard to go on accepting connections mode?19:57
vi__CodenameStrike-N: the kb works.19:58
vi__I can type with it.19:58
CodenameStrike-NI guess that's as far as "seamless" goes by definition with it19:59
vi__except I have to use the command line to use rfcomm to connect to its mac address then use kbdd to use the kb.19:59
vi__I thought there must be an easier way.19:59
CodenameStrike-NHmm20:00
vi__I was hoping there might be somone with some experiance who could say yay or nay.20:00
CodenameStrike-NCome to think back of it, I had extkb and didn't have to20:00
CodenameStrike-Nprobably experience varies between keyboard models20:00
CodenameStrike-Nwhat's the keyboard's model?20:01
vi__it is and SPP type kb, not an HID which may be part if the problem.20:02
CodenameStrike-NMight be20:03
CodenameStrike-Nbecause extkbd depends on HID for the job20:03
Sicelovi__: definitely discuss this with FMG when he's around.. just the past week he assisted someone else.. and i think it was an SPP issue20:06
CodenameStrike-Nmy thoughts too.20:08
vi__I dont want to squander his time.20:09
kerioawww, there's no layout for the iGO stowaway bluetooth keyboard20:11
CodenameStrike-Noh yeah I don't know if this is more towards hildon-desktop in general20:12
keriooh well, USA 106-keys works fine20:13
CodenameStrike-NAt intervals, mostly when the system is about to go into load20:13
CodenameStrike-Ntransitions sometimes freeze, buttons stop responding20:13
keriovi__: your keyboard might suck20:13
CodenameStrike-Nbut doesn't affect my ssh session if I'm connected20:14
keriobut mine works perfectly, just by installing extkbd, pairing and connecting from the bluetooth menu20:14
kerio:320:14
CodenameStrike-Nbut issuing a restart signal to hildon-desktop does not work20:14
CodenameStrike-Nin most cases the phone's display will stick like that until I issue a reboot signal20:14
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CodenameStrike-Neither locally or by remote20:15
CodenameStrike-Nis this a sign of an Xorg lockup?20:15
Sicelonot xorg, afaik20:15
vi__kerio: but there is no connect function in the BT menu...20:18
vi__also, i am typing this on my KB right now.20:18
vi__also, is rfcomm.conf supposed to be run as you turn BT on?20:19
kerioit's supposed to be run when bluetoothd starts20:19
keriovi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/Screenshot-20120930-191921.png <- the "Disconnect" button becomes "Connect" when the kbd isn't connected20:20
vi__when does bluetoothhd start?20:21
keriovi__: it's either started during boot, or it's started/stopped when you start/stop bluetooth20:21
kerioi don't remember20:21
kerioanyway, it's running if the bluetooth is on20:21
vi__my one shows disconnect greyed out all the time.20:21
vi__mmm20:21
vi__now I am connected it shows the disconnect button.20:22
vi__but why no 'connect' button?20:22
vi__also, why hide it at the bottom of 4 menus??20:22
keriothe connect button is there when it's not connected20:23
kerioif it's something that the bluetooth UI can handle20:23
keriolike HID20:23
vi__mmm20:23
vi__where are the devices listed?20:23
keriohey, why doesn't ctrl+shift+x work, with the kbd? :c20:23
vi__is it in some kind if conf file?20:23
kerioother ctrl+shift+foo stuff works20:24
keriovi__: idk, but bluetoothd is fairly standard20:24
kerioit's the bluez daemon20:24
kerioread up some documentation20:24
vi__kerio ctrl+shft+x works on my kbd.20:24
vi__ctrl+backspace too.20:24
keriohrmpf20:25
kerioctrl+bksp works too20:25
keriodammit, only the most useful one doesn't work20:25
vi__even the blue function key works!20:25
keriomy kbd's two Fn keys work perfectly20:25
keriobut i think those aren't even sent20:25
keriothe translation is done inside the kbd20:25
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vi__I have ctrl, blue, window, alt AND alt_gr on this kbd!20:25
vi__Even my wacky ctrl+shift+number works for F keys!20:26
Strike-N900blue?20:27
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keriovi__: hm, extkbd loads a separate layout for the external kbd20:28
keriovi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/20120930_005.jpg my awesoem kbd20:28
kerioit folds in half! :D20:28
keriofreemangordon: extkbd++20:28
keriofreemangordon: worked perfectly after a reboot, no issue, nice UI, A++++ would kbd again20:29
FlameReaperkerio: that keyboard looks nice20:30
kerio=D20:30
kerioit does!20:30
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FlameReapersay20:30
_PanzerSajtSkry, hy! :)20:30
vi__I have an old hp ipaq foldable kbd.20:30
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FlameReaperis there a #jolla or something?20:31
vi__it even has a little stand to hold your n900 at an angle.20:31
FlameReaperas in a channel?20:31
kerioFlameReaper: #jollamobile20:31
FlameReaper:P20:31
FlameReaperAh20:31
keriovi__: mine too! :D20:31
FlameReaperthat's way ahead than what I though20:31
vi__try #vapourware20:31
FlameReaper... oh you...20:31
keriovi__: oh you20:31
kerioFlameReaper: oh you20:32
DocScrutinizer05moh booh20:32
DocScrutinizer05low ยต20:32
vi__so where does bluetoothhd keep its config files?20:32
FlameReaperapparently as I've verified, another cross-platform graphics tool proved it can run on the N90020:33
keriovi__: /etc/bluetooth/ iirc20:34
keriobut the UI also tells it some stuff20:34
FlameReaperwhich reminds me, is icedtea6 the only way we can have java?20:34
kerioFlameReaper: well, it has to be an arm binary20:34
vi__kerio: nope20:35
FlameReaperfigures20:35
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kerioi suppose any java you can compile for ARM is fine20:36
Skry_PanzerSajt: hi20:36
_PanzerSajtSkry, How can I help you with the kernel developement?20:37
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vi__freemangordon: ping20:39
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Skry_PanzerSajt: I'm kinda busy atm, I'll query you later ok?20:40
_PanzerSajtSkry, no problem20:41
FlameReaperkerio: Alright, so we have the one app from http://al.chemy.org working on this N90020:45
FlameReaperthough the UI is more geared towards desktop use20:45
kerioneat :D20:45
FlameReaperbut it's pretty manageable20:45
kerioi'm surprised a graphics editor fits in 800x48020:45
FlameReaperbut unlike mypaint20:46
FlameReaperit's limited to the screen size its platform runs in20:46
kerioof course it is20:46
keriobut it has to fit20:46
FlameReaperyeah20:46
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FlameReaperkerio: Was running and getting another sample screenshot of the app20:54
FlameReaperhttp://i.imgur.com/jITO2.png20:54
keriopretty20:55
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vi__kerio: can you look at your /var/lib/bluetooth/class file and tell me what the string is for your bt kb?21:08
kerioi don't have a class21:09
kerioi have a <mac address>/classes21:09
vi__kerio: yeah look in there.21:10
vi__you will see your btkb mac21:10
kerio0x00254021:10
kerioand the icon in the BT UI is a keyboard21:10
vi__interesting...21:11
kerioor maybe a generic hid device? idk21:11
vi__...21:13
vi__it now lists it as a keyboard21:13
kerioyay21:13
vi__but there is still no 'connect' button.21:13
vi__just a greyed out disconnect.21:13
keriosucks to be you i guess21:16
kerioreboot, maybe?21:17
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vi__kerio: do you have 'connect' against any other bluetooh connections?21:17
keriomy headphones21:17
vi__what about other mobile phones?21:18
keriowhat would "connect" mean, there?21:18
vi__IHNFC21:18
keriofor more capable things, i have "disconnect" when there's a connection21:18
keriobut no straight-up "connect"21:18
vi__kerio: same here21:18
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narcosAnyone savvy with OpenVPN?21:28
narcos#openvpn is rather quiet today. When creating client certs in batch mode with pkitool, I'm getting the error "TXT_DB error number 2" resulting in a blank .crt file21:29
narcosI suspect I'm doing something 'silly'21:29
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Gh0stythat does not look like an openvpn problem but an pkitool problem :p21:30
narcosI suspect it's a user problem at the end of the day :)21:30
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narcosHere's my config, and the outcome - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u0056buX21:31
narcosIf I use "pkitool --interact", and enter the default values for all prompts, then all is well21:31
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