IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2012-09-25

*** jon_y has quit IRC00:00
*** LuckyY has quit IRC00:00
*** nslu2-log has quit IRC00:00
*** mhlavink_afk has quit IRC00:00
*** fortytwo has quit IRC00:00
*** jrayhawk has quit IRC00:00
*** odin_ has quit IRC00:00
*** heroux has quit IRC00:00
*** X-Fade has quit IRC00:00
*** fortytwo_ is now known as fortytwo00:00
*** Kilroo has quit IRC00:00
*** script has quit IRC00:00
*** Elfix has quit IRC00:00
*** GGon has quit IRC00:00
*** Shapeshifter has quit IRC00:00
*** Proteous has quit IRC00:00
*** villev_ has quit IRC00:00
freemangordonthe fuck00:00
freemangordonnetsplit :)00:00
DocScrutinizer51var/lib*pt optified00:01
DocScrutinizer51var/lib/apt even00:01
*** odin_ has joined #maemo00:01
*** Kilroo has joined #maemo00:02
*** strohalm has joined #maemo00:04
*** kakashi_ has joined #maemo00:04
*** jon_y has joined #maemo00:04
*** LuckyY has joined #maemo00:04
*** nslu2-log has joined #maemo00:04
*** mhlavink_afk has joined #maemo00:04
*** fiferboy_ has quit IRC00:04
Palihm, why is IRC network acyclic?00:04
*** Ian--- has quit IRC00:04
*** X-Fade has joined #maemo00:05
*** NIN101 has quit IRC00:05
*** Ian-- has joined #maemo00:05
Palifreemangordon, you need kernel-power from git00:05
freemangordonPali: from git?00:05
Paliwhich provides kernel-feature-rx51-battery00:05
Paliyes, I did not rebuilded pre release yet00:06
freemangordonisn't the one in TMO thread ok?00:06
Palimissing provdes line in debian/control00:06
*** vi__ has joined #maemo00:06
freemangordonwell, is it only the dependensy that is missing?00:06
freemangordoni'll dpkg --force-depends it00:06
freemangordon(or whatever the switch is )00:07
freemangordonbtw which package needs that?00:07
vi__did anyone who has updated to flash10 have problems with no sound?00:07
Palihald-addon-bme needs dsme library for compile00:07
freemangordonvi__: lots of people00:07
*** rob2_away has joined #maemo00:07
freemangordonvi__: just increase the volume00:07
freemangordonPali: ok00:07
*** lbt_ has joined #maemo00:08
*** lbt_ has quit IRC00:08
*** lbt_ has joined #maemo00:08
Palithere is also fake bme-rx-51 package which replace bme daemon00:08
Palibut it is not tested yet00:08
freemangordonPali: do i need it?00:08
freemangordonah, ok00:08
Palifor testing hald-addon-bme and libbmeipc not00:08
*** lbt_away has quit IRC00:09
*** NishanthMenon has quit IRC00:09
freemangordonPali: how to restart hald-addon-bme?00:09
*** guampa has quit IRC00:09
freemangordonI didn't find a way when I was playing with it :)00:09
vi__freemangordon: I have done.  On the flashplayer, globally, alsa, everywhere!00:09
Palifor testing you need to stop bme and manually load kernel modules00:09
Palito restart hald-addon-bme use:00:09
Pali0. stop hal00:09
freemangordonyes, but how to restart addon without reboot?00:09
*** NishanthMenon has joined #maemo00:09
Pali1. /etc/init.d/hal start00:10
*** sunny_s has quit IRC00:10
*** guampa has joined #maemo00:10
freemangordontoo late00:10
*** muellisoft has joined #maemo00:10
Palistop hal must be called first00:10
*** sunny_s has joined #maemo00:10
*** myuu__ has quit IRC00:10
*** LjL has quit IRC00:10
Palibut it only mark hal as stopped00:10
Paliin upstart00:10
Palibut it still running00:11
freemangordonso? killall hald?00:11
Paliso then you need to kill hal (all daemons) manually00:11
Palips | grep hal00:11
Paliand kill pids...00:11
*** setanta has quit IRC00:11
Paliand then use only /etc/init.d/hal00:11
Palido not use start|stop hal --> it is buggy and working only at startup00:12
Palinote that log file is still enabled and hald-addon-bme print it to /tmp/00:12
freemangordonso I need bq_battery, bq_charger and rx51_battery?00:13
*** Muelli has quit IRC00:13
freemangordoninsmod: error inserting 'rx51_battery.ko': -1 File exists00:14
Palirx51_battery is loaded at startup00:14
Paliautomatically, not blacklisted00:14
Paliuse modprobe instead insmod00:15
Paliinsmod did not loaded dependency modules00:15
freemangordonall is in place00:15
freemangordonpower-supply is already loaded because of rx51_battery00:15
Palimodprobe also ignore loaded modules00:15
*** jk4_ has joined #maemo00:15
freemangordonanyway, everything is loaded00:15
freemangordonwhat now :D?00:15
*** Titilambert has joined #maemo00:15
Palireplace hald-addon-bme00:16
Paliand restart hal00:16
freemangordonalready did it00:16
Paliso it should work00:16
freemangordonand libbmeipc too00:16
Palisee lshal00:16
Palicheck battery status menu applet00:16 = 130300:16 = 517200:17
Palicheck value against /sys/class/power_supply/...00:17
*** chadi has quit IRC00:17
*** AndrewX192 has quit IRC00:17
*** jk4 has quit IRC00:17
*** aslani has quit IRC00:17
*** Taytay has quit IRC00:17
*** AndrewX192 has joined #maemo00:17
*** AndrewX192 has quit IRC00:17
*** AndrewX192 has joined #maemo00:17
Paligive me output of uevent of power_supply drivers first00:17
*** chadi has joined #maemo00:18
*** GGon_ is now known as GGon00:18
freemangordonthat is bq_battery00:18
freemangordonwhat else?00:19
vi__turns out I went full retard.00:19
vi__silent mode overides everything.00:19
Pali>> = 1303 << this is OK I belive00:19
vi__but media player00:19
freemangordonshould be, this is standart Nokia battery00:19
freemangordonPali: a typo "POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=chip bq24150a, revision 1.3, vender code 010"00:19
freemangordonin charger, "vender"00:20
*** LjL has joined #maemo00:20
Paliit is not typo :D00:20
PaliDoc already reported it00:20
Palivender is correct too00:20
Palisee dict00:20
freemangordonthe fuck :D:D:D00:20
Paliand in datasheet is used vender00:20
Paliso I wrote vender to driver00:21
freemangordonhmm, POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=3927000:21
freemangordonis that 39mA?00:21
Paliwhich driver?00:22
Paliit could be00:22
freemangordonhmm, strange, I have only wifi connected00:22
*** Darkchaos has quit IRC00:22
Paliah I see, is number 1..8 for standard battery00:23
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo00:23
freemangordonthe fuck "HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered" :(00:23
*** MrOpposif has joined #maemo00:24
*** fuz_ has quit IRC00:24
*** Gizmokid2005 has quit IRC00:24
*** MrOpposite has quit IRC00:24
*** Psi has quit IRC00:24
*** Psi_ has joined #maemo00:24
*** XDS2010 has quit IRC00:24
*** andre__ has quit IRC00:24
Palifreemangordon, I think I know where is problem00:25
*** andre__ has joined #maemo00:25
freemangordonPali: I think it should be hardcoded to 800:25
PaliI think no00:25
freemangordonotherwise battery applet will be confused00:25
*** XDS2010 has joined #maemo00:25
*** MrOpposif is now known as MrOpposite00:26
*** fuz_ has joined #maemo00:26
*** Gizmokid2005 has joined #maemo00:27
*** Hurrian__ has quit IRC00:27
freemangordonPali: ok, will see00:27
*** bbee has quit IRC00:27
*** dafox has quit IRC00:28
freemangordonPali: battery.charge_level.current = 0  (0x0)  (int)00:29
freemangordonPali: how often is it polled?00:30
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo00:30
Palicheck log00:30
Palicat /tmp/bme...00:30
*** markinfo has joined #maemo00:32
*** spoofy has joined #maemo00:32
*** real-dev has joined #maemo00:32
freemangordonlog looks ok00:32
*** FireFly has quit IRC00:32
*** guampa has quit IRC00:32
*** dev has quit IRC00:32
*** Dynamit has quit IRC00:32
*** udovdh has quit IRC00:33
freemangordonbut battery.charge_level.current = 0  (0x0)  (int)00:33
*** guampa has joined #maemo00:33
*** real-dev is now known as dev00:33
*** udovdh has joined #maemo00:33
*** Dynamit has joined #maemo00:33
Palicapacity % ?00:33
freemangordonbattery.charge_level.percentage = 0  (0x0)  (int)00:34
Paligive me full output of hal bme properties (lshal -u /something/bme/...) and all 3 uevent files00:34
Palito pastebin...00:34
Paliand also /tmp/hald-addon-bme.log00:35
*** hazchemix has quit IRC00:35
freemangordonPali: hmm, which hal device?00:36
freemangordonaah, ny bad then :D00:36
freemangordon*my bad00:36
Palisome device which has bme substring00:36
freemangordonthis one looks almos ok00:37
freemangordonbattery.reporting.current = 1304  (0x518)  (int)00:38 = 1297  (0x511)  (int)00:38
freemangordonbut I think we can live with that00:38
*** rcg has quit IRC00:38
freemangordonbattery.charge_level.last_full = 10  (0xa)  (int)00:39
freemangordonlooks suspicios too00:39
Palican you give me full output?00:40
*** FireFly has joined #maemo00:40
*** dafox has joined #maemo00:40
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo00:41
*** dafox is now known as Guest5982100:41
freemangordonPali: what is the upper temp limit in rx51_battery?00:43
freemangordonhmm, too low00:43
freemangordonwe should cover at least 60-65 deg00:44
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC00:44
*** Dibblah has quit IRC00:44
*** Dibblah_ has joined #maemo00:44
Paliif value is low, then 49°C is reported00:44
freemangordonyou mean if it is above 48?00:45
Paliif RAW value is too low, then 49°C is reported00:45
freemangordonbut AIUI there is no way to trigger thermal shutdiwn if we report incorrect values00:45
Paliyes, we need some approximation formula00:46
*** Taytay has joined #maemo00:46
Palibut I did not implemented anything...00:46
freemangordonPali: I sent it to you, do you keep it?00:46
*** fortytwo_ has joined #maemo00:46
freemangordon4th order polinomial00:46
PaliI do not have it00:46
freemangordonhmm, a better idea (doc will like it)00:47
*** kabtoffe_ has joined #maemo00:47
*** vi___ has joined #maemo00:47
Paliseems that bars are really 1-800:47
*** GGon_ has joined #maemo00:47
PaliI will change code00:47
*** guly_ has joined #maemo00:47
freemangordoni can use some 10th order polinomial to approximate range from -30-90 deg00:48
freemangordongimme some toime, will pastebin the result00:48
*** GGon has quit IRC00:48
*** fortytwo has quit IRC00:48
*** jk4_ has quit IRC00:48
*** d1b_ has joined #maemo00:48
*** FireFly has quit IRC00:48
freemangordon-30 to 90 should be ok, ain't DocScrutinizer05?00:48
*** GGon_ is now known as GGon00:49
*** Guest59821 has quit IRC00:49
*** Titilambert has quit IRC00:49
*** vi__ has quit IRC00:49
*** RP_ has quit IRC00:49
*** real-dev has joined #maemo00:49
*** sandst1_ has joined #maemo00:49
*** RP_ has joined #maemo00:49
*** Guest59821 has joined #maemo00:49
*** Psotnick has joined #maemo00:50
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo00:50
*** guly has quit IRC00:50
*** d1b has quit IRC00:50
*** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC00:50
*** Chewtoy has quit IRC00:50
*** kabtoffe has quit IRC00:50
*** Psotnick_ has quit IRC00:50
*** sandst1 has quit IRC00:50
*** Titilambert has joined #maemo00:51
*** DocScrutinizer51 has joined #maemo00:51
*** Chewtoy has joined #maemo00:51
DocScrutinizer51friggin netsplits!00:52
*** fortytwo has joined #maemo00:52
*** Effilry has joined #maemo00:52
*** MrOpposif has joined #maemo00:52
Palibut why it reported this??? = 517200:53
*** vi___ has quit IRC00:53
*** dev has quit IRC00:53
*** Taytay has quit IRC00:53
*** fortytwo_ has quit IRC00:53
*** MrOpposite has quit IRC00:53
*** odin_ has quit IRC00:53
*** markinfo has quit IRC00:53
*** X-Fade has quit IRC00:53
*** X-Fade has joined #maemo00:53
*** real-dev is now known as dev00:54
*** markinfo has joined #maemo00:54
*** jk4 has joined #maemo00:54
*** odin_ has joined #maemo00:55
*** Effilry has quit IRC00:55
*** Effilry has joined #maemo00:55
*** Effilry is now known as FireFly00:55
Palifreemangordon, can you upload also /tmp/ log file?01:00
PaliI'd like to know why it reported = 517201:00
*** muellisoft is now known as Muelli01:01
freemangordonwill reboot, to remove the noise01:01
*** disco_stu_droid has joined #maemo01:05
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC01:05
freemangordonPali: have in mind that was for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_rx51_battery01:05
*** Neutron15 has joined #maemo01:05
freemangordonso it is something in rx51_battery driver01:06
*** shadeslayer has joined #maemo01:06
*** guly has joined #maemo01:06
*** jrayhawk has joined #maemo01:06
freemangordonthough seems like uninitialized variable, there is no way you can know design capacity in rx51_...01:07
*** lbt_away has joined #maemo01:07
*** lbt_away has quit IRC01:07
*** lbt_away has joined #maemo01:07
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC01:07
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #maemo01:07
*** Psi has joined #maemo01:07
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo01:07
*** fortytwo_ has joined #maemo01:08
*** GGon_ has joined #maemo01:08
*** Jaffa_ has joined #maemo01:08
*** Dibblah_ is now known as Dibblah01:09
*** thexcept1on has quit IRC01:09
*** Neutron14 has quit IRC01:09
*** guly_ has quit IRC01:09
*** jrayhawk_ has quit IRC01:09
*** Jaffa has quit IRC01:09
*** qwazix__ has quit IRC01:09
*** kerio has quit IRC01:09
*** disco_stu has quit IRC01:09
*** fortytwo has quit IRC01:09
*** Psi_ has quit IRC01:09
*** dhbiker has quit IRC01:09
*** LjL has quit IRC01:09
*** lbt has quit IRC01:09
*** konelix has quit IRC01:09
*** Ex-Opesa has quit IRC01:09
*** valeriusL has quit IRC01:09
*** ALoGeNo has quit IRC01:09
*** Muelli has quit IRC01:09
*** jk4 has quit IRC01:09
*** GGon has quit IRC01:09
*** fortytwo_ is now known as fortytwo01:09
*** GGon_ is now known as GGon01:09
*** disco_stu_droid is now known as disco_stu01:10
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo01:10
*** kerio has joined #maemo01:10
*** ALoGeNo has joined #maemo01:10
*** jk4 has joined #maemo01:10
*** vblazquez has joined #maemo01:10
*** valeriusL has joined #maemo01:10
*** qwazix__ has joined #maemo01:10
*** Muelli has joined #maemo01:10
*** Ex-Opesa has joined #maemo01:10
*** Dibblah_ has joined #maemo01:11
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo01:12
*** LjL has joined #maemo01:12
*** LjL has quit IRC01:12
*** LjL has joined #maemo01:12
*** Ex-Opesa has quit IRC01:12
*** Ex-Opesa has joined #maemo01:12
*** Dibblah has quit IRC01:12
*** kerio is now known as Guest1509001:13
*** vblazquez is now known as Guest9595201:13
Paliwe can ignore /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_rx51_battery01:15
freemangordonPali: is there any chance to get some measurement at lets say 55 deg?01:15
Palifreemangordon, we can patch twlmadc kernel driver to reported fixed RAW value (set from user space)01:15
freemangordonor even higher?01:15
Paliand then ask BME for converted temperature01:16
freemangordonhmm, yes, you are right01:16
freemangordonno need to do approximation then01:16
Palibut it needs to turn off some mce/dsme/... protection01:16
freemangordonthe problem is that depending on ppolinomial order, I get too different values above 64 deg01:17
*** florian has quit IRC01:17
Palifreemangordon, I can ask bme devs (again) how to use this API:
freemangordonwell, no need, once we have more points, the approximation should be correct to lets say 80 deg. that should be pretty enough for all practical purposes01:18
*** udovdh has quit IRC01:18
*** fizzie has quit IRC01:18
*** Trizt has quit IRC01:18
*** udovdh has joined #maemo01:19
PaliBME sent me some data for ADCIN0 struct bmeisa_adc_cal_data01:19
Palibut I do not know which union is used01:19
*** andre__ has quit IRC01:19
*** jon-kha has quit IRC01:19
*** jon-kha has joined #maemo01:19
Paliand what that bmeisa_adc_*_conv_cal_par_t means...01:19
*** Trizt has joined #maemo01:19
*** andre__ has joined #maemo01:20
*** fizzie has joined #maemo01:20
*** andre__ has quit IRC01:20
DocScrutinizer05wow, I just met a RL troll01:21
*** shamus has quit IRC01:21
*** shamus has joined #maemo01:21
DocScrutinizer05(entering troll mode myself) WTF is fixed RAW value01:22
*** Dibblah_ has quit IRC01:22
*** zap_ has quit IRC01:22
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo01:23
*** markinfo has quit IRC01:23
DocScrutinizer05hope you still have the pastebin URL of my freezer enterprise01:24
DocScrutinizer05I really think there's no use in any nifty polinomail formula since we got a LUT anyway01:24
*** sheepbat has quit IRC01:25
*** bbee has joined #maemo01:25
*** bbee has joined #maemo01:25
DocScrutinizer05a LUT with *for sure* less than 150 tuples01:25
*** sheepbat has joined #maemo01:25
DocScrutinizer052 * int1601:25
DocScrutinizer05you basically can't implement any decent polinomial in that number of bytes01:26
DocScrutinizer05if you need values for 50, 60 , even 90°C, just take a sheet of paper and extrapolate the curve strictily human-manually01:28
DocScrutinizer05a) we're not interested in precise absolute values01:29
DocScrutinizer05b) there's a noise of like +/-4°C anyway01:29
*** rm_work has quit IRC01:30
DocScrutinizer05c) if anybody comes claiming we needed a globaly applicable formula, I just answer it's nonsense, since the coefficients for that formula need to come fom board parameter file just same way the 150 tuples for LUT have to01:30
DocScrutinizer05and no, there's absolutely no need to calculate any nonsense like sensor current or whatever01:32
*** wmarone has quit IRC01:35
*** wmarone has joined #maemo01:35
*** Dibblah has quit IRC01:35
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo01:36
DocScrutinizer05tbh we could as well get away with just THREE tuples in LUT: <less-than-raw-input-a> -> "too cold" -> 0°K;<raw-input->a<b> -> "it's fucking alright" -> 290°K; <more-than-raw-input-b> -> "too hot" -> 400°K;01:37
DocScrutinizer05where "too cold" is like -25°C, and "too hot" is like 70°C01:38
DocScrutinizer05nothing else matters01:38
GGonlooks like the n900 keypad heh01:38
GGonso that's what nokia did with all those spare parts!01:38
DocScrutinizer05actually make that TWO tuples, since it's just 3 ranges01:41
DocScrutinizer052 of them open01:41
DocScrutinizer05makes 2 borders aka tuples in LUT01:41
DocScrutinizer05GGon: I pretty much wish my N900 had THAT keymat01:43
*** sq-one has quit IRC01:43
GGonwell yeah. it has the F keys01:43
GGonand esc ;)01:43
GGoncaps and tab too heh01:44
GGonnokia should make a wp phone with that :-P01:44
Palihere is BME output for temperature adcin calibration data:
DocScrutinizer05you're aware keymat is one coherent component, are you?01:44
Pali0x05 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x64 0x00 0x34 0x0d 0x2a 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x0001:44
GGonone coheren component?01:45
DocScrutinizer05Pali: sorry, friend. I'm too grumpy right now to even comment on that01:45
DocScrutinizer05GGon: one fsckng sheet of plastic01:46
freemangordonPali: hmm, seems like some coefficient, not LUT :(01:46
DocScrutinizer05so what?01:46
DocScrutinizer05or it looks like cell's last cheers and moans01:46
Palihere is union:
GGonDocScrutinizer05: meh.. i want it for xmbc ;)01:47
DocScrutinizer05honestly I offer a bet about 12 bottles Klipshift that there's no calibration data for R111001:47
*** Neutron16 has joined #maemo01:47
DocScrutinizer05it's plain silly to calibrate such a component, with THAT amount of noise01:48
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: AIUI we are trying to understand what BME does01:49
DocScrutinizer05and I've always seem *multiple* BME records in CAL01:49
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: maybe you do, I always stated we better refuse to even look at bme since it can't get worse than that01:49
*** eijk has quit IRC01:50
*** d1b has joined #maemo01:50
DocScrutinizer05search chanlogs foe "<DocScrutinizer> NOOO, pretty please DO NOT disclose BME sourcecode! We don't want to see it!"01:50
*** Neutron15 has quit IRC01:50
*** chadi has quit IRC01:50
*** d1b_ has quit IRC01:50
*** chadi has joined #maemo01:50
*** chadi has quit IRC01:51
*** chadi has joined #maemo01:51
freemangordonPali: hacking adc raw in twl seems the best option, we'll directly get LUT01:51
*** RP_ has quit IRC01:51
DocScrutinizer05hacking WUT?01:51
*** Guest59821 has quit IRC01:51
*** RP_ has joined #maemo01:51
DocScrutinizer05faking raw register readouts?01:52
*** Guest59821 has joined #maemo01:52
PaliI wrote this more times!01:52
freemangordon<Pali> freemangordon, we can patch twlmadc kernel driver to reported fixed RAW value (set from user space)01:52
DocScrutinizer05WTF!!! is a "fixed RAW value"???01:52
*** Dibblah has quit IRC01:52
Paliyou tell driver some fixed value01:52
DocScrutinizer05it's nonsense01:53
Paliand driver will report it01:53
DocScrutinizer05aaah, ok01:53
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo01:53
DocScrutinizer05thought you gonna "fix" the raw values reported01:53
freemangordonPali: seems charging works too, though I would not leave it overnight :D01:53
DocScrutinizer05then it doesn't work01:54
freemangordondid I ask something?01:54
freemangordonPali: POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-42679301:54
Paliits ok01:54
Paliwhen charging it reports negatove value01:55
freemangordonI know, i wonder about the value01:55
freemangordonisn't that like 500mA?01:55
freemangordonconnected to wall charger?01:55
freemangordonlooks bad to me01:56
DocScrutinizer05sounds good01:56
freemangordonisn't that supposed to be something like >800mA01:56
Paliit is from bq27200 chip01:56
freemangordonaah, ok01:57
freemangordonseems I have to take some sleep :D01:57
freemangordonwe should not overcharge(overcurrent) the battery01:57
*** disco_stu_droid has joined #maemo01:58
*** Guest59821 has quit IRC01:58
DocScrutinizer05pshshst! maybe you missed it: **we can't really overcurrent the battery!**02:00
DocScrutinizer05since bq24150 doesn't provide more than 0.9C02:01
*** GGon_ has joined #maemo02:01
*** disco_stu has quit IRC02:02
*** odin_ has quit IRC02:02
*** GGon has quit IRC02:02
*** X-Fade has quit IRC02:02
*** X-Fade has joined #maemo02:02
DocScrutinizer05and thanks bq24150 we also can't really severely overvolt the battery02:02
*** disco_stu_droid is now known as disco_stu02:03
DocScrutinizer05and I posted same statement some 30 months ago, and nobody except ShadowJK and SpeedEvil understood02:03
Palifreemangordon, I pushed hald-addon-bme change which fix max number of bars to 802:03
*** Dibblah has quit IRC02:03
*** Dibblah___ has joined #maemo02:03
*** Dibblah___ is now known as Dibblah02:03
*** odin_ has joined #maemo02:04
freemangordonPali: ok, will test it tomorrow, going to bed now :)02:04
DocScrutinizer05probably also a board parameter X-P02:04
*** valeriusM has joined #maemo02:12
*** RP_ has quit IRC02:12
*** chadi has quit IRC02:12
*** hazchemix has quit IRC02:12
*** valerius has quit IRC02:12
*** Guest59821 has joined #maemo02:12
*** _mpthx_ has joined #maemo02:12
*** RP_ has joined #maemo02:12
*** chadi_ has joined #maemo02:13
*** Dibblah has quit IRC02:18
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo02:19
*** sirdancealot7 has quit IRC02:19
*** konelix__ has joined #maemo02:19
*** fortytwo_ has joined #maemo02:19
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo02:20
*** FredrIQ has joined #maemo02:20
*** fortytwo has quit IRC02:21
*** FIQ has quit IRC02:21
*** fortytwo_ is now known as fortytwo02:21
*** FredrIQ is now known as FIQ02:21
*** nox- has joined #maemo02:22
*** konelix_ has quit IRC02:23
*** BCMM has quit IRC02:29
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #maemo02:29
*** Sazpaimon has quit IRC02:30
*** inz has quit IRC02:30
*** thuttu77 has quit IRC02:31
*** thuttu77 has joined #maemo02:31
*** povbot_ has joined #maemo02:35
*** basiaf_ has joined #maemo02:35
*** Guest59821 is now known as dafox02:35
*** SmilybOrg is now known as Guest4572302:35
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo02:35
*** saidinesh has joined #maemo02:35
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo02:35
*** ab[out] has joined #maemo02:36
*** saidinesh5 has quit IRC02:36
*** johnsu01 has quit IRC02:36
*** basiaf has quit IRC02:36
*** Luke-Jr has quit IRC02:36
*** ab has quit IRC02:36
*** eMHa has quit IRC02:36
*** inz has joined #maemo02:36
*** Luke-Jr has joined #maemo02:37
*** konelix__ is now known as konelix02:39
*** SmilyOrg has quit IRC02:41
*** povbot has quit IRC02:41
*** konelix has quit IRC02:43
*** ChikuLinu__ has joined #maemo02:44
*** Chiku|dc has quit IRC02:46
*** ChikuLinu__ is now known as chiku|dc02:48
*** chiku|dc has joined #maemo02:49
*** johnsu01` has quit IRC02:49
*** johnsu01` has joined #maemo02:49
*** johnsu01` is now known as johnsu0102:49
*** Vanadis__ has joined #maemo02:49
*** Luke-Jr has quit IRC02:50
*** Luke-Jr has joined #maemo02:51
*** Muelli has quit IRC02:51
*** Vanadis has quit IRC02:52
*** Pali has quit IRC02:53
*** Dibblah has quit IRC02:56
*** Dibblah_ has joined #maemo02:56
*** Dibblah_ has quit IRC02:58
*** Luke-Jr has quit IRC02:58
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo02:58
*** Luke-Jr has joined #maemo02:58
*** murrayc_ has joined #maemo03:13
*** murrayc has quit IRC03:17
*** Dibblah has quit IRC03:28
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo03:30
*** robbiethe1st has joined #maemo03:43
*** NishanthMenon has quit IRC03:43
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo04:15
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC04:26
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo04:27
*** fredrin has quit IRC04:34
*** Dibblah has quit IRC04:34
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo04:35
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC04:43
*** dafox has quit IRC04:43
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC04:46
*** Dibblah has quit IRC04:48
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo04:48
*** Dibblah has quit IRC04:49
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo04:50
*** Dibblah has quit IRC05:01
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo05:01
*** uen| has joined #maemo05:03
*** uen has quit IRC05:06
*** uen| is now known as uen05:06
*** Dibblah has quit IRC05:08
*** Dibblah__ has joined #maemo05:08
*** Dibblah__ is now known as Dibblah05:08
*** nox- has quit IRC05:10
*** guampa has quit IRC05:27
* ShadowJK sees 850mA or more charge current with his charge script and power kernel05:28
ShadowJKcan be tweaked between ~100 and 1200ish05:29
ShadowJKhigher end only achievable with a good battery that's empty05:29
*** Dibblah has quit IRC05:44
*** radic has quit IRC05:45
*** radic_ has joined #maemo05:45
*** radic_ is now known as radic05:45
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo05:45
*** Dibblah has quit IRC05:50
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo05:52
*** brzys has quit IRC05:57
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC06:04
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #maemo06:04
*** robbiethe1st has quit IRC06:12
*** valeriusL has quit IRC06:19
*** infobot has quit IRC06:29
*** guerby has quit IRC07:06
*** croppa has quit IRC07:10
*** Dibblah has quit IRC07:11
*** croppa has joined #maemo07:12
*** ab[out] is now known as ab07:21
*** stardiviner has joined #maemo07:40
*** sunny_s has quit IRC07:47
*** guerby has joined #maemo08:14
*** _mpthx_ has quit IRC08:17
*** Kilroo has quit IRC08:21
*** _mpthx_ has joined #maemo08:33
*** rob2_away has quit IRC08:39
*** rcg has joined #maemo08:49
*** lbt_away is now known as lbt09:06
*** flo_lap has joined #maemo09:09
*** freemangordon has joined #maemo09:28
*** _mpthx_ has quit IRC09:28
*** flo_lap has quit IRC09:33
*** ghjgfjghjbn has quit IRC09:40
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo09:40
*** ghjgfjghjbn has joined #maemo09:40
*** dhbiker has quit IRC09:43
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo09:43
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo09:45
*** geaaru has joined #maemo09:46
*** Guest15090 is now known as kerio09:51
*** kerio has joined #maemo09:52
*** lbt has quit IRC09:52
*** iluminator105 has joined #maemo09:53
iluminator105where does downloads go to what folder in n900?09:54
*** andre__ has joined #maemo09:56
*** andre__ has quit IRC09:56
*** andre__ has joined #maemo09:56
*** eMHa_ has quit IRC10:05
*** Zahra has joined #maemo10:15
*** int_ua has joined #maemo10:16
*** rcg has quit IRC10:17
*** e-yes has quit IRC10:17
*** zap_ has joined #maemo10:19
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo10:19
*** florian_kc has joined #maemo10:22
*** florian_kc has quit IRC10:22
*** florian_kc has joined #maemo10:22
*** drussell has joined #maemo10:23
*** FIQ|n900 has joined #maemo10:25
*** eijk has joined #maemo10:27
*** sasquatch has quit IRC10:28
*** utanapischti has joined #maemo10:29
*** valeriusM has quit IRC10:35
*** rcg-work has joined #maemo10:36
*** florian_kc is now known as florian10:38
*** calvaris has joined #maemo10:39
*** MikaT has quit IRC10:41
*** e-yes has joined #maemo10:44
*** qwazix__ has quit IRC10:45
*** jhb has joined #maemo10:51
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo10:53
*** Jade has quit IRC10:54
*** valeriusM has joined #maemo10:57
*** lbt has joined #maemo10:57
*** lbt has quit IRC10:57
*** lbt has joined #maemo10:57
*** eMHa_ has quit IRC10:58
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo11:01
*** saidinesh is now known as saidinesh511:06
*** valeriusM has quit IRC11:06
*** valeriusL has joined #maemo11:08
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC11:10
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo11:10
*** gomiam has joined #maemo11:13
*** pcfe has joined #maemo11:14
*** Jucato has joined #maemo11:16
*** Jucato has quit IRC11:16
*** Jucato has joined #maemo11:17
*** Darkchaos has joined #maemo11:19
*** Muelli has joined #maemo11:27
*** Jad has joined #maemo11:28
*** Jad has quit IRC11:28
*** valeriusM has joined #maemo11:29
*** Jade2 has joined #maemo11:29
*** Jade2 has joined #maemo11:29
*** markinfo has joined #maemo11:30
*** int_ua has quit IRC11:31
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC11:31
*** arno0ob has joined #maemo11:39
*** mpthx has joined #maemo11:39
jpinxhere's wierd -- I start to rsync some pretty straightforward stuff into MyDocs over usb network, and half-way through it starts trowing errors "ro filesystem"  :(11:40
*** OkropNick has joined #maemo11:40
*** dhbiker has quit IRC11:42
*** e-yes has quit IRC11:43
*** hazchemix has quit IRC11:43
*** Guest45723 has quit IRC11:45
*** mpthx has quit IRC11:45
*** Guest45723 has joined #maemo11:46
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo11:46
*** norayr has joined #maemo11:52
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo11:55
kerioi doubt rsync is to blame11:58
*** beford has quit IRC11:58
*** BCMM has joined #maemo11:59
*** aloril_ has quit IRC12:01
*** idoru has quit IRC12:01
*** ColdFyre has quit IRC12:01
*** ajf_ has quit IRC12:01
*** Zucca has quit IRC12:01
*** GuySoft has quit IRC12:01
*** pigeon has quit IRC12:01
*** aquat1x has quit IRC12:01
*** kimitake has quit IRC12:01
*** ajf_ has joined #maemo12:01
*** Zucca has joined #maemo12:01
*** aquat1x has joined #maemo12:01
*** GuySoft has joined #maemo12:03
*** aloril_ has joined #maemo12:05
DocScrutinizer51might be poor USB cable12:08
DocScrutinizer51or fs is generally defect and needs fsck.vfat or a reflash12:09
*** ijon_ has joined #maemo12:11
*** kimitake has joined #maemo12:12
*** idoru has joined #maemo12:12
*** Darkchaos has quit IRC12:17
*** bef0rd has quit IRC12:18
*** ijon_ has left #maemo12:20
edheldillooks like my Rapuyama has died for good, it did not come back after several reboots and cold starts12:25
jacekowskiflash it12:26
*** udovdh has quit IRC12:28
*** FIQ|n900 has quit IRC12:28
*** MikaT has joined #maemo12:31
*** Pali has joined #maemo12:32
*** udovdh has joined #maemo12:33
*** Guest45723 has quit IRC12:34
*** Guest45723 has joined #maemo12:34
*** MikaT has quit IRC12:36
*** MikaT has joined #maemo12:37
*** Muelli has quit IRC12:40
*** e-yes has joined #maemo13:00
*** spoofy has quit IRC13:02
*** ijon_ has joined #maemo13:03
*** ijon_ has left #maemo13:04
*** Zahra has quit IRC13:08
*** markinfo has quit IRC13:09
*** norayr has quit IRC13:14
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo13:35
*** thetet has joined #maemo13:38
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo13:40
*** lizardo has joined #maemo13:40
*** stardiviner has quit IRC13:42
*** norayr has joined #maemo13:50
*** mhlavink_afk has quit IRC13:52
*** mhlavink has joined #maemo13:57
*** maybeHere has joined #maemo14:07
*** maybeArgh has quit IRC14:09
*** ijon_ has joined #maemo14:10
*** ijon_ has left #maemo14:11
*** _berto_ has joined #maemo14:13
*** GuySoft has quit IRC14:18
kerioguys, is there a way to diagnose problems with the thumbnailer?14:20
keriomy music has no cover art in the list14:20
*** Pali has quit IRC14:28
*** GuySoft has joined #maemo14:33
*** geaaru has quit IRC14:34
*** mpthx has joined #maemo14:40
*** hazchemix has quit IRC14:44
*** xmlich02 has joined #maemo14:45
*** mpthx has quit IRC14:47
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo14:48
rzrjlol @
deepyThat's one nice bug report :-)14:53
*** hazchemix has quit IRC14:55
kerioWhy is my bug report a "snark", I have in good faith reported what I consider a bug with Ubuntu, namely the functionality that is being added to the GUI is not also being consistently added to the CLI tools that some many of us rely on.14:57
keriooh god my sides14:57
deepyOh, it's yours?14:57
deepyoh nvm14:58
* deepy is not awake14:58
deepyBut that part is brilliant14:58
*** flux has quit IRC15:05
*** flx_ has joined #maemo15:05
*** flx_ is now known as flux15:05
*** dafox has joined #maemo15:05
*** dafox is now known as Guest7680615:05
*** andre__ has quit IRC15:09
*** ZogG_laptop has joined #maemo15:14
*** qwazix__ has joined #maemo15:17
*** FredrIQ has joined #maemo15:24
*** FIQ has quit IRC15:26
*** FredrIQ is now known as FIQ15:26
*** thetet has quit IRC15:27
*** croppa has quit IRC15:29
*** andre__ has joined #maemo15:30
*** andre__ has quit IRC15:30
*** andre__ has joined #maemo15:30
*** Jade2 is now known as Jade15:30
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo15:33
*** retro|cz has joined #maemo15:38
Sicelokerio: i don't know how it happened, but some music has some old images as the cover art, lol15:45
Siceloanyway, try using different tag-editing software for the thumbnails and see.15:46
*** Arkenoi has quit IRC15:49
*** FIQ has quit IRC15:51
*** FIQ has joined #maemo15:55
*** markinfo has joined #maemo15:58
*** geaaru has joined #maemo15:59
*** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC16:03
*** markinfo has quit IRC16:04
*** GeneralAntilles has joined #maemo16:06
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC16:07
*** shadeslayer has joined #maemo16:10
*** Dibblah has joined #maemo16:24
*** Guest76806 has quit IRC16:24
*** gomiam has quit IRC16:34
*** Guest76806 has joined #maemo16:38
*** konelix has joined #maemo16:45
*** rm_work has joined #maemo16:49
*** rm_work has joined #maemo16:49
*** FIQ has quit IRC16:53
*** FIQ|n900 has joined #maemo17:01
*** konelix has quit IRC17:02
*** konelix has joined #maemo17:03
*** Arkenoi has joined #maemo17:05
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo17:07
*** FIQ|n900 has quit IRC17:07
*** konelix_ has quit IRC17:07
*** konelix has quit IRC17:08
*** FIQ|n900 has joined #maemo17:10
*** fredrinLap has joined #maemo17:11
*** FredrIQ|n900 has joined #maemo17:11
*** penguinbait has joined #maemo17:12
*** penguinbait has joined #maemo17:12
*** Zahra has joined #maemo17:12
*** FIQ|n900 has quit IRC17:14
*** Guest76806 is now known as dafox17:14
*** BCMM has quit IRC17:15
*** dhbiker has quit IRC17:25
*** valeriusM has quit IRC17:28
*** chenca has joined #maemo17:36
*** guampa has joined #maemo17:51
*** spoofy has joined #maemo18:01
*** beford has joined #maemo18:01
*** NIN101 has joined #maemo18:10
*** valeriusM has joined #maemo18:16
*** SmilyOrg has joined #maemo18:17
*** Guest45723 has quit IRC18:20
*** infobot has joined #maemo18:21
*** mpthx has joined #maemo18:23
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC18:25
*** shadeslayer has joined #maemo18:27
*** hazchemix has quit IRC18:27
*** FIQ|n900 has joined #maemo18:28
*** mpthx has quit IRC18:28
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo18:29
*** hazchemix has quit IRC18:31
*** FredrIQ|n900 has quit IRC18:31
*** GNUton-BNC has quit IRC18:38
*** zap_ has quit IRC18:39
*** mvp_ has quit IRC18:47
*** setanta has joined #maemo18:47
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo18:49
*** Darkchaos has joined #maemo19:09
*** Zahra has quit IRC19:13
*** Zahra has joined #maemo19:13
*** lbt has quit IRC19:13
*** eMHa_ has quit IRC19:14
*** FIQ has joined #maemo19:15
*** rcg-work has quit IRC19:16
*** mvp_ has quit IRC19:17
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo19:18
FIQThis might not be the right place for the question, but does Network Play functionality in VGB-maemo work on 2 local VGB processes? :p19:21
*** e-yes has quit IRC19:23
*** zap_ has joined #maemo19:26
FIQbecause they seem to both crash when I try19:39
*** toxaris has joined #maemo19:39
kerioFIQ: does it work between two different ones?19:41
FIQyou mean 2 different devices? I cannot test it really19:43
*** arno0ob has quit IRC19:43
FIQI tried to start 2 local VGB processes and link them with network play, they seem to 'recognize' each other, as the UI is responsive etc until I connect the second VGB19:44
FIQin which both crashes instantly19:44
FIQor, freezes, to be exact19:44
*** FIQ|n900 has quit IRC19:44
*** FIQ|n900 has joined #maemo19:45
*** dhbiker has quit IRC19:55
*** retro|cz has quit IRC19:59
*** mk8 has joined #maemo19:59
*** mk8 has quit IRC19:59
*** freemangordon has quit IRC20:03
*** freemangordon has joined #maemo20:03
*** antero has joined #maemo20:08
*** merlin1991 has quit IRC20:12
*** Sazpaimon_ has quit IRC20:12
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #maemo20:12
*** Sazpaimon_ is now known as Sazpaimon20:12
*** merlin1991 has joined #maemo20:13
*** _berto_ has quit IRC20:13
*** Sazpaimon has quit IRC20:17
*** florian has quit IRC20:20
*** Sazpaimon has joined #maemo20:26
*** iluminator105 has quit IRC20:32
*** rick8024 has joined #maemo20:35
*** FIQ|n900 has quit IRC20:37
*** e-yes has joined #maemo20:43
*** calvaris has quit IRC20:45
*** schen has joined #maemo20:46
*** githogori has quit IRC20:52
*** rcg has joined #maemo20:52
*** MrOpposif has quit IRC20:56
*** MrOpposif has joined #maemo20:56
*** MrOpposif is now known as MrOpposite20:56
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo20:57
*** fredrinLap has quit IRC21:05
*** Dragnslcr has quit IRC21:09
*** ijon_ has joined #maemo21:09
*** ijon_ has left #maemo21:09
*** celesteh has joined #maemo21:10
*** spoofy is now known as knypek21:14
*** florian has joined #maemo21:15
*** florian has joined #maemo21:15
*** knypek is now known as spoofy21:16
*** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC21:23
*** schen has quit IRC21:24
*** DocScrutinizer51 has joined #maemo21:24
*** NIN102 has joined #maemo21:26
*** NIN101 has quit IRC21:27
*** lxp has joined #maemo21:50
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo21:52
*** lxp1 has quit IRC21:53
*** FIQ has quit IRC21:54
*** FIQ has joined #maemo21:59
*** zap_ has quit IRC22:01
*** konelix has joined #maemo22:02
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo22:03
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo22:04
*** drussell has quit IRC22:06
*** FIQ has quit IRC22:07
*** FIQ has joined #maemo22:07
*** konelix has quit IRC22:07
*** konelix_ is now known as konelix22:08
*** konelix has quit IRC22:09
*** konelix has joined #maemo22:13
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #maemo22:18
*** Sazpaimon_ has quit IRC22:19
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #maemo22:19
*** Sazpaimon has quit IRC22:21
*** OkropNick has quit IRC22:30
*** Woody14619 has joined #maemo22:31
*** Woody14619 has quit IRC22:31
*** Woody14619 has joined #maemo22:31
*** _rd has joined #maemo22:32
*** jhb has quit IRC22:36
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC22:38
*** Zahra has quit IRC22:45
*** konelix has quit IRC22:50
*** shadeslayer has joined #maemo22:50
*** Luke-Jr has quit IRC22:53
*** konelix has joined #maemo22:53
*** Luke-Jr has joined #maemo22:55
*** FIQ has quit IRC23:04
*** FIQ has joined #maemo23:05
*** e-yes has quit IRC23:09
*** sq-one has joined #maemo23:14
*** toxaris has quit IRC23:22
*** loganbr` has quit IRC23:23
*** Darkchaos has quit IRC23:23
*** antero has quit IRC23:23
*** andre__ has quit IRC23:24
*** lbt_away has joined #maemo23:26
*** lbt_away has quit IRC23:26
*** lbt_away has joined #maemo23:26
*** lbt_ has quit IRC23:26
*** _rd has quit IRC23:36
*** mvp_ has quit IRC23:36
*** GGon_ is now known as GGon23:41
*** valdyn has quit IRC23:42
*** _rd has joined #maemo23:42
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo23:44
*** NIN102 has quit IRC23:49
*** valdyn has joined #maemo23:52
*** penguinbait has quit IRC23:56
deepyScreen on and watching movies using headphones23:59
deepyhow long do you reckon the battery'll last?23:59

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!