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| kerio | brightness? | 00:00 |
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| deepy | 25%ish | 00:00 |
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| deepy | is that another way of syaing forever? | 00:20 |
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| kerio | deepy: no, but i wouldn't expect it to last more than a movie | 00:23 |
| deepy | what! | 00:25 |
| deepy | Does it use that muc battery? | 00:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption | 00:29 |
| deepy | We'd be looking at no Wifi, no SIM etc | 00:32 |
| SpeedEvil | is this streaming over WiFi? | 00:32 |
| deepy | Nope | 00:32 |
| SpeedEvil | I see I forgot to measure video | 00:33 |
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| SpeedEvil | it's going to be between 5 and 3 hours though | 00:33 |
| * deepy headdesks | 00:33 | |
| deepy | gotta get me a portable charger then | 00:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | measuring, 5 hours | 00:38 |
| SpeedEvil | it will vary somewhat with codec | 00:38 |
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| arcturus | bumbling with my n900: whenever I try to flash the emmc bin, my n900 will drop USB mode and try to start... and now I have a nice restart loop :) | 01:41 |
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| arcturus | but rootfs seems to load (except the cmt_mcu) | 01:42 |
| arcturus | then again, I guess I'll try the rootfs-emmc-rootfs sequence before bothering you | 01:43 |
| arcturus | sorry for all this text :) | 01:43 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hello, run `ps` shows that many applications have two instances, why? | 02:29 |
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| LaoLang_cool | They have different PID and VSZ | 02:30 |
| merlin1991 | got any examples? | 02:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | for example: | 02:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | 1254 user 3932 S /usr/bin/hildon-home | 02:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | 1253 user 70792 S /usr/bin/hildon-home | 02:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | s/1254/1250/ | 02:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | the same to hildon-desktop, camera-ui, rtcom-call-ui, etc. | 02:32 |
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| merlin1991 | i guess it's due to the way maemo-launcher works | 02:34 |
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| LaoLang_cool | merlin1991, it's normal? | 02:36 |
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| merlin1991 | I suppose, at least every single n900 I own does it | 02:36 |
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| LaoLang_cool | I thought it's un-normal and maybe eat my battery quickly | 02:36 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, got it, thanks | 02:36 |
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| LaoLang_cool | Can I toggle the number/shift lock status from the cli? | 02:56 |
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| kwtm | Hi. I thought I could just delete ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db and it would rebuild, but now my N900 doesn't show any record of SMS's/phone calls ever since I deleted it. Is there something I should be doing, like creating a new file with a skeleton db? | 03:14 |
| kwtm | MohammadAG: I'm hoping you can help before I have to wipe and reflash or something... | 03:14 |
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| r00t|home | kwtm: i guess you should use sqlite to dump the structure and then recreate the db? | 04:17 |
| r00t|home | user@Nokia-N900[~]$ sqlite3 .rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db .schema >/tmp/el-v1.schema.sql | 04:23 |
| r00t|home | http://www.constancy.org/~r00t/el-v1.schema.sql | 04:23 |
| r00t|home | not sure if it's the clean original, but works for me | 04:24 |
| r00t|home | just run sqlite ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db <el-v1.schema.sql | 04:24 |
| r00t|home | and you have a new db | 04:24 |
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| BCMM | i have a problem with bb | 13:29 |
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| BCMM | at some point I installed a package to provide some extra BB features (bb-power perhaps?) and everything was fine. many updates later (i'm on cssu) I notice that i'm getting "whois: applet not found". i ignored it for about a week but now i've found that bzip has the same problem and thus I can't run apt-get update properly | 13:31 |
| BCMM | what should I do? | 13:31 |
| BCMM | dpkg -S can't even find an owner for /usr/bin/whois | 13:38 |
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| kerio | BCMM: apt-get install --reinstall busybox-power | 13:54 |
| kerio | also you should set gzip as the preferred decompression method - it's lighter, and usually Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 don't differ by much at all | 13:55 |
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| kerio | lighter on the CPU, i mean | 13:55 |
| BCMM | kerio: how do you do that? i'd noticed that updating packages made stuff slow for a looong time | 13:56 |
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| kerio | Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order:: "gz"; | 13:57 |
| kerio | in apt.conf(.d) | 13:57 |
| kerio | that means gz on top | 13:57 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hello, is there a way to control shift lock status from cli? | 14:03 |
| LaoLang_cool | symbol lock and shift lock | 14:03 |
| BCMM | kerio: thanks and thanks | 14:04 |
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| FIQ|n900 | Hmmm | 15:11 |
| FIQ|n900 | I think I messed up as rm seems to segfault | 15:11 |
| FIQ|n900 | Somehow apt-get upgrade resulted in full rootfs | 15:11 |
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| FIQ|n900 | Which is weird as I had 20M free before upgrade | 15:13 |
| flux | 20M free is practically nothing :-o | 15:14 |
| kerio | yeah, i've got like 80 | 15:14 |
| kerio | FIQ|n900: remember that apt, by default, uses the cache in the rootfs | 15:15 |
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| kerio | so i'd run apt-get clean | 15:19 |
| kerio | also install cssu-thumb! | 15:20 |
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| BCMM | what is cssu-thumb kerio? | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | >rm seems to segfault | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | Oh no. | 15:26 |
| kerio | it's magic and cookies | 15:26 |
| kerio | Hurrian: nah, busybox rm segfaults all the fucking time | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | I think you accidentally your libraries. | 15:26 |
| Hurrian | kerio, it's stable for me. Both on Maemo and -power versions. | 15:27 |
| kerio | Hurrian: try to remove something that you can't remove | 15:27 |
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| FIQ | ahh, turns out that I'll have to reflash the thing... oh well :) | 16:54 |
| FIQ | just a small problem though... my microUSB is pretty much broken | 16:55 |
| FIQ | Hopefully it will work | 16:55 |
| FIQ | <kerio> so i'd run apt-get clean | 16:55 |
| FIQ | I already read the wikipage thingy | 16:55 |
| FIQ | and apt-get clean did nothing | 16:55 |
| FIQ | also pretty much everything segfaulted | 16:56 |
| FIQ | and the fact that the battery was low did NOT make things better | 16:56 |
| FIQ | didn't really have time to fix it D: | 16:56 |
| FIQ | However now I'll have to try to use its' pretty-much-broken microUSB | 16:57 |
| FIQ | HOPEFULLY it works | 16:57 |
| FIQ | Otherwise... uh | 16:57 |
| FIQ | Otherwise I'm screwed I suppose :p | 16:57 |
| kerio | otherwise you charge the battery and then restore your last BM backup | 16:58 |
| FIQ | <kerio> FIQ|n900: remember that apt, by default, uses the cache in the rootfs | 16:58 |
| FIQ | I have CSSU | 16:58 |
| FIQ | so mine doesn't | 16:58 |
| kerio | i said apt | 16:58 |
| kerio | so yours does | 16:58 |
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| FIQ | but apt-clean did nothing anyway | 16:58 |
| FIQ | I tried | 16:59 |
| kerio | HAM uses /home/.apt-archive-cache | 16:59 |
| kerio | but not apt, by default | 16:59 |
| FIQ | "otherwise you restore your last BM backup" | 16:59 |
| FIQ | riight | 16:59 |
| FIQ | I was supposed to install that thing | 17:00 |
| FIQ | Which I forgot :D | 17:00 |
| kerio | well you clearly have one | 17:00 |
| kerio | because it says pretty clearly to use it in the CSSU instructions | 17:00 |
| kerio | and you followed them | 17:00 |
| FIQ | I'm pretty sure there wasn't such notice when I installed CSSU | 17:00 |
| kerio | like a good user who doesn't skip boring steps in the instructions | 17:00 |
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| FIQ | because I always read such things | 17:01 |
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| FIQ | I installed CSSU before the first stable release, might not have been such thing then | 17:01 |
| FIQ | Well | 17:02 |
| FIQ | I don't blame anyone, it's all my own fault :p | 17:02 |
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| kerio | Revision as of 22:40, 26 November 2011 by Joerg rw | 17:03 |
| kerio | that added the "install backupmenu" step | 17:03 |
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| kerio | hehehe, and it took up until Revision as of 11:39, 2 February 2012 to make the list's formatting correct | 17:04 |
| FIQ | lol | 17:05 |
| FIQ | Well | 17:06 |
| FIQ | As I said, it was before stable was out | 17:06 |
| FIQ | So it's fully possible that it was simply not on the list when I did it | 17:06 |
| FIQ | It's also possible that I somehow missed it, but I don't think it | 17:07 |
| Lava_Croft | hmm, fb chat keeps giving user/pass error when creating an account | 17:07 |
| Lava_Croft | even tho im positive i entered them correctly | 17:07 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: can we get a "INSTALL BACKUPMENU, YOU DOLT" message in the topic? | 17:07 |
| FIQ | But kerio, that's not the point | 17:07 |
| FIQ | The point is that I already was aware that I should install backup menu | 17:07 |
| FIQ | From other sources, including this channel | 17:07 |
| FIQ | I just didn't do it, probably because I forgot it | 17:07 |
| FIQ | I'm not blaming anyone though... it's just my own fault :p | 17:08 |
| FIQ | Now I learned that I should install it, the hard way, I suppose | 17:09 |
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| Lava_Croft | ok, this is annoying | 17:15 |
| Lava_Croft | fb chat doesnt want to login, not on jabber either | 17:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Goddamnit | 17:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | I thought this was my temperature controller | 17:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Turns out it's an iPhone 5. | 17:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: could we get a autogreeter for robbiethe1st "PROMOTE BM TO TESTING, YOU FOOL!" | 18:25 |
| kerio | hehe | 18:25 |
| kerio | that, too | 18:25 |
| kerio | actually no | 18:25 |
| kerio | because -devel is the main repo anyway | 18:25 |
| kerio | nobody except you cares about -testing | 18:25 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | /kick kerio | 18:25 |
| kerio | ouch! my butt! | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | how's it going to get into extras, without touchdown in extras-testing? | 18:26 |
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| kerio | wtf is touchdown? | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | some temporary visit | 18:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~dict touchdown | 18:28 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'touchdown' (2 of 3): a score in American football; being in possession of the ball across the opponents' goal line ;; a landing (as the wheels touch the landing field); especially of airplanes. | 18:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | while actually it velonged to nokia's maemo core repo since beginning :-P | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | belonged* | 18:29 |
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| kerio | heh | 18:30 |
| kerio | i beg to differ though, it's definetely not thoroughly tested | 18:30 |
| kerio | for instance, usb MSM is a bit flaky | 18:30 |
| kerio | the connection is reset when charge21.sh detects the charging | 18:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm? file a ticket! | 18:31 |
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| marcdeop | hey guys | 19:17 |
| marcdeop | I've been facing a really anoying bug | 19:17 |
| marcdeop | when someone calls me | 19:17 |
| marcdeop | the screen doesn't totally show the phone app | 19:17 |
| marcdeop | so I can't get to hit the reply (or deny) call button | 19:18 |
| marcdeop | do any of you know of a solution? | 19:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yaqy, drive-by asker | 19:43 |
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| FIQ | this is getting a little frustrating | 20:04 |
| FIQ | I'm trying to flash my N900, and my microUSB is *almost* dead | 20:05 |
| FIQ | which means, it does work, but... | 20:05 |
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| kerio | it means it doesn't work | 20:05 |
| kerio | and you shouldn't flash it | 20:05 |
| FIQ | sure it does | 20:05 |
| FIQ | but barely | 20:05 |
| FIQ | 97% (181248 of 185728 kB, 13619 kB/s) then fail | 20:06 |
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| FIQ | oh by the way kerio | 20:08 |
| FIQ | if I shouldn't flash, what do you suggest instead? :o | 20:08 |
| kerio | probably try desperately to install backupmenu and then restore a full backup from somewhere | 20:09 |
| kerio | but of course now you borked everything and your only option is to flash | 20:09 |
| FIQ | kerio: The device didn't even boot before | 20:09 |
| FIQ | So it wasn't available before flashing either | 20:09 |
| kerio | k | 20:10 |
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| FIQ | there we go | 20:27 |
| FIQ | took some tries | 20:27 |
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| kerio | what the fuck is Helium Mobile Browser? :o | 21:19 |
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| Lava_Croft | Nemo's browser | 21:45 |
| Lava_Croft | dont bother with it | 21:45 |
| kerio | i already bothered with it :) | 21:45 |
| kerio | doesn't work | 21:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | the concept assumed He-3 and that's too rare and expensive. So they used He-2 and that's why it doesn't work | 21:51 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: aren't you watching a live concert | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | they haven't started yet | 21:53 |
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| * kerio wasn't on IRC while waiting for radiohead to start | 21:53 | |
| kerio | because mobile connections were fucked | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hah | 21:54 |
| kerio | because there were too many people with fucking iphones and samsung galaxies | 21:54 |
| kerio | or, well, because there were too many people | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hah, I got a N900 and I'm not afraid to use it | 21:55 |
| kerio | woah, this is weird! | 21:55 |
| kerio | i've got a n900 too! | 21:56 |
| * DocScrutinizer51 ponders tweaking tvBgone into iPhoneBgone | 21:56 | |
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| kerio | hahaha | 21:56 |
| kerio | i don't think it works that way | 21:56 |
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| vi__ | what package contains xev? | 22:18 |
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| vi__ | do you think it is possible to map blue+control to left alt? | 22:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | vi__: blue&ctrl is 'special' | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and iirc that is (who would've guessed) again a closed bit | 22:56 |
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| kerio | goddammit i still haven't found a way to properly try my swapswap script | 23:00 |
| kerio | i always end up rebooting every couple of days, for some reason | 23:00 |
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| vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: blue+control is not so special. | 23:13 |
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| vi__ | according to rx-51 keymap, 3rd and 4th level of ctrl key is 'multi-key'. | 23:13 |
| vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: hildon listens for multi-key then sends out a dbus message. | 23:14 |
| vi__ | that is intercepted by NFC that displays the stupid little menu. | 23:16 |
| vi__ | so you have 2 choices, 1. change 3rd and 4th level of control to something else. | 23:17 |
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| vi__ | like L_alt | 23:19 |
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| vi__ | 2. cssu hildon actually has a gconf you can set to overide blue+ctrl with another dbus message. | 23:22 |
| vi__ | anyway, I set blue+ctrl to L_alt but I am not sure how to test it! | 23:23 |
| kerio | emacs | 23:23 |
| vi__ | FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKK OOOOOFFFF | 23:24 |
| vi__ | emacs can go and rim a tramp. | 23:24 |
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| kerio | hehe | 23:25 |
| kerio | that's funny because tramp is the transparent sftp/scp access | 23:25 |
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| vi__ | I meant, if emacs were a person I would have them tounge a homeless mans crusty butthole. | 23:33 |
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| vi__ | kerio: do you have the thumb toolchain setup? | 23:35 |
| kerio | newp | 23:35 |
| vi__ | lame | 23:35 |
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| kerio | do you? | 23:38 |
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