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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: but opening a bug in a tracker sounds like work | 00:56 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: so... there's no link to a bugtracker | 01:06 |
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| kerio | what's the best way to run ssh-agent in maemo? | 09:50 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I've been looking through romaxa's mercurial code repo on hg.mozilla.org. I thought I'd have a go at building the IPCLite based browser. Have you tried? Not sure which project to checkout: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/romaxa_gmail.com/ | 11:34 |
| zeq | I'm guessing I need his xulrunner+qtmozembed..? | 11:38 |
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| sambo7 | Hi,nandtester here-I finally managed to get the battery charged...unfotunately I'm having some problems trying to cold flash | 15:47 |
| sambo7 | I have followed these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing | 15:47 |
| kerio | oh, hi | 15:48 |
| kerio | i kinda forgot about you! | 15:48 |
| kerio | :D | 15:48 |
| sambo7 | but after the temporary bootloader has been loaded & I enter the flasher-3.5 -F image.bin --flash-only=nolo -f it gets stuck | 15:48 |
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| sambo7 | at this point Suitable USB device not found, waiting. | 15:48 |
| sambo7 | at this point: Suitable USB device not found, waiting. | 15:49 |
| kerio | well, did you connect your n900 at that point? | 15:49 |
| kerio | also, is 2101 your hw revision? | 15:49 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: ping, i think you're interested too | 15:49 |
| sambo7 | I first enter the boot-loader command & then connect the phone | 15:50 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: and besides, you can help him better than me | 15:50 |
| kerio | sambo7: does the n900 do something at that point? | 15:50 |
| sambo7 | after a while the Nokia logo appears | 15:50 |
| kerio | hm, maybe you should hold "u" then? | 15:50 |
| sambo7 | don't know which hw rev I actually have | 15:50 |
| sambo7 | thought that I might find out with lsusb when phone is recognised but I didn't | 15:51 |
| sambo7 | after the bootloader has been loaded this pops up in the syslog: hub 4-1:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled | 15:52 |
| kerio | jacekowski: are you around? | 15:53 |
| sambo7 | this comes up a few times & in the end I get this in the syslog: usb 4-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 7 | 15:53 |
| sambo7 | so I guess that the connection is lost after the bootloader & is not established anymore | 15:53 |
| sambo7 | the amber led is still on for a while but nothing happens anymore | 15:54 |
| kerio | :( | 15:54 |
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| sambo7 | how many hw rev are there....maybe I try one after the other | 15:55 |
| kerio | i have 2104 | 15:56 |
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| sambo7 | when I look at what pops up after the second flash command, there seems to be more that 30/40/50 hw revisions | 15:58 |
| sambo7 | I will try with holding the u button | 15:58 |
| kerio | sambo7: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=776474&postcount=35 | 15:58 |
| sambo7 | it could take a while to test all of them...if that is relevant at all | 15:59 |
| sambo7 | anybody ever tried to flash with wrong hw rev. given?result? | 16:00 |
| sambo7 | get the same result with the u button | 16:03 |
| sambo7 | after the boot loader is loaded the usb connection is lost & the flash command stops at Suitable USB device not found, waiting. | 16:04 |
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| sambo7 | anybody ever succeeded to cold flash a device & is that just pure theory?:-( | 16:07 |
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| kerio | jacekowski DocScrutinizer05 DocScrutinizer DocScrutinizer51 | 16:09 |
| jacekowski | kerio: ? | 16:11 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: don't distonnect the phone | 16:12 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: it has to stay connected | 16:12 |
| sambo7 | had it connected for about 20min | 16:12 |
| sambo7 | after the boot loader nothing happened...wait some longer? | 16:12 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: you need switched off phone, run coldflashing command connect phone, insetrt the battery | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | then run normal flashing command | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | linux or windows? | 16:13 |
| sambo7 | linux | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | hmmm | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | try different machine | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | or different cable | 16:13 |
| sambo7 | cannot switch on phone at all...nandtested it:-( | 16:14 |
| kerio | jacekowski: this is the phone with the borked CAL | 16:14 |
| kerio | could it be related? | 16:14 |
| jacekowski | ahm | 16:14 |
| jacekowski | broken cal | 16:14 |
| sambo7 | after the boot loader I see usb diconnection in the syslog | 16:14 |
| jacekowski | no way to recover that without phoenix | 16:14 |
| sambo7 | what is that? | 16:14 |
| kerio | jacekowski: hm, are you sure about that? shame :( | 16:15 |
| jacekowski | nolo reads stuff from cal | 16:15 |
| jacekowski | and probably if cal is gone then partition table is gone | 16:15 |
| kerio | jacekowski: is there a way to rebuild a cal? | 16:15 |
| jacekowski | and that's not recoverable as well | 16:15 |
| jacekowski | kerio: theoretically | 16:15 |
| sambo7 | after I enter the boot loader flash command & connect the phone the Nokia logo appears & boot loader is loaded...then disconnection | 16:15 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: because bl is failing to read cal data | 16:16 |
| jacekowski | it's looking for partition table | 16:16 |
| jacekowski | and that's not there | 16:16 |
| sambo7 | I nandtested mtd0-mtd5 accidentally | 16:16 |
| kerio | "accidentally" | 16:16 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: how, why? | 16:17 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: you've done nolo nandtest? | 16:17 |
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| jacekowski | theoretically it is recoverable, but because we can't sign BL and therefore load any code onto n900 | 16:18 |
| sambo7 | I was a little hasty...nandtested it before having read about that it doesn't test actually | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | because nokia signed BL is crashing without valid cal | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | it does test | 16:18 |
| kerio | hey, it does test! | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | it's destructive test though | 16:18 |
| kerio | jacekowski: to be fair it should really print out more warnings | 16:18 |
| sambo7 | yes,but without the -k not only test | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | well, is that nolo nandtest we are talking about? | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | or some other test? | 16:19 |
| kerio | jacekowski: no, nandtest from mtdtools | 16:19 |
| kerio | mtd-tools? | 16:19 |
| sambo7 | I did enter nandtest mtd0 | 16:19 |
| kerio | (destructive) | 16:19 |
| sambo7 | the mtd1 | 16:19 |
| sambo7 | till mtd5 | 16:19 |
| jacekowski | well, problem is that all calibration data and imei was stored in cal | 16:19 |
| sambo7 | so,no possibility to debrick it?what about the serial pins? | 16:20 |
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| jacekowski | nope | 16:20 |
| jacekowski | nokia probably has copy of calibration data | 16:21 |
| kerio | or at least could calibrate it again | 16:21 |
| jacekowski | so it could be recovered without it going back to them if they were willing to help | 16:21 |
| sambo7 | nandtest should be called nandfuck | 16:21 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: nobody said it's not destructive | 16:21 |
| sambo7 | but nevertheless it was my fault | 16:21 |
| kerio | sambo7: send a letter to elop! | 16:22 |
| jacekowski | nokia would have to supply signed bl that would write cal data | 16:22 |
| sambo7 | so I might try to contact NOKIA & tell them what happened to my phone.... | 16:22 |
| kerio | jacekowski: what's stored in CAL? | 16:22 |
| jacekowski | or you have to send it back and they will redo it | 16:22 |
| jacekowski | kerio: everything | 16:22 |
| jacekowski | kerio: imei, radio calibration data, wifi mac | 16:22 |
| * kerio kinda wants to backup his CAL | 16:23 | |
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| kerio | jacekowski: ooh, so you can change your imei by writing to CAL? | 16:23 |
| jacekowski | kerio: if you can sign it | 16:23 |
| kerio | oh, it's in the signed part? :c | 16:23 |
| kerio | spoilsports | 16:23 |
| jacekowski | basically all calibration data and imei is stored in one block that is sent to rapuyama on boot | 16:24 |
| jacekowski | and rapuyama verifies it's signature | 16:24 |
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| jacekowski | but hmmm | 16:24 |
| kerio | fucking rapuyama :( | 16:24 |
| jacekowski | you could clone another n900 probably | 16:24 |
| jacekowski | unless rapuyama has it's own cal as well | 16:24 |
| jacekowski | which it probably has | 16:24 |
| sambo7 | I got one on ebay uk a few days ago & am waiting for this one to arrive | 16:25 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: well question is exactly what have you done | 16:25 |
| jacekowski | to be honest | 16:25 |
| jacekowski | when i was looking at it | 16:25 |
| sambo7 | I entered these commands | 16:25 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd0 | 16:25 |
| jacekowski | coldflash bl should be fine with messed up cal | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd1 | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd2 | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd3 | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd4 | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | nandtest mtd5 | 16:26 |
| jacekowski | it will not work without partition table | 16:26 |
| sambo7 | after the last one the phone turned off | 16:26 |
| kerio | hahahaha | 16:26 |
| jonwil | I bet that phone is busted | 16:26 |
| kerio | sorry, but it is hilarious | 16:26 |
| kerio | especially because i did the same thing on a sheevaplug | 16:27 |
| kerio | with debian installed on the NAND | 16:27 |
| jacekowski | there was great big warning when installing mtd-tools | 16:27 |
| sambo7 | not so funny to me;-) | 16:27 |
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| kerio | and after i nandtested mtd2 shit started to blow up | 16:27 |
| kerio | (rootfs) | 16:27 |
| sambo7 | for me after mtd5 | 16:27 |
| kerio | that's when i did "man nandtest" on my computer | 16:27 |
| kerio | sambo7: yeah, the n900's rootfs is in mtd5 | 16:27 |
| sambo7 | before all was fine | 16:27 |
| kerio | sambo7: luckily for me, the sheevaplug has a low-level interface (jtag) to flash stuff to the NAND regardless of what you do with it | 16:28 |
| jacekowski | what is the RM-number of N900? | 16:28 |
| kerio | which is accessible via a mini-usb port | 16:28 |
| kerio | flashing a n900 is... more complicated | 16:28 |
| kerio | if it doesn't cooperate, i mean | 16:28 |
| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: I knew that at one point. I forgot though. | 16:29 |
| sambo7 | RM-number? | 16:29 |
| jacekowski | yeah | 16:29 |
| sambo7 | sorry | 16:29 |
| jacekowski | from sticker | 16:29 |
| jacekowski | there is rm-number | 16:29 |
| jacekowski | i need that number | 16:29 |
| SpeedEvil | sticker? | 16:29 |
| jacekowski | rx-51 | 16:29 |
| sambo7 | under tha battery? | 16:29 |
| * SpeedEvil powers off. | 16:30 | |
| sambo7 | mine too | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | rx51 | 16:30 |
| jonwil | Does anyone know how the web browser is able to dial phone numbers when you click on certain URLs? | 16:30 |
| sambo7 | does the N900 have a jtag too? | 16:30 |
| javispedro | jonwil: "tel:xxx" URL scheme | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | jonwil: I don't think it's that. | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - that. | 16:31 |
| SpeedEvil | I thought you meant the auto-dial thingy on any string of numbers in contacts | 16:31 |
| jonwil | what I mean is does anyone know what handles those URLs? | 16:31 |
| jonwil | I cant find the handler for it in microb-engine | 16:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Not me, sorry. | 16:31 |
| jonwil | I want to do the same thing from my app :) | 16:31 |
| javispedro | on harm it's defined in a .desktop file | 16:31 |
| javispedro | jonwil: you can probably try to pass that url to hildon mime or similar lib | 16:32 |
| jacekowski | sambo7: you can try flashing it with phoenix under windows | 16:32 |
| sambo7 | where do I get that phoenix sw?not the nokia suite? | 16:33 |
| jacekowski | ussualy some russian sites | 16:34 |
| jacekowski | you have to find cracked version | 16:34 |
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| javispedro | jacekowski: do you think that will restore CAL? | 16:35 |
| jacekowski | well, phoenix is what nokia uses | 16:35 |
| jacekowski | so i would expect that phoenix can recover completly dead phone | 16:36 |
| javispedro | looking forward to that then :P | 16:36 |
| javispedro | this is one of the reasons I'm personally quite happy with n9's openmode write-locking CAL | 16:37 |
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| jacekowski | well, you can lock nand blocks on n900 as ell | 16:37 |
| jacekowski | well* | 16:37 |
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| sambo7 | found a cracked one...hopefully it runs on win7_64 or winxp | 16:37 |
| javispedro | jacekowski: have any hints on how that is done btw? I'm curious. It's a feature of the onenand chip? | 16:38 |
| jacekowski | yes | 16:38 |
| jacekowski | but nandtest unlocks everything beforehand | 16:38 |
| javispedro | hm. | 16:38 |
| jacekowski | that's why he managed to fuck it up | 16:38 |
| jacekowski | because normally it's locked | 16:38 |
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| sambo7 | @jacekowski dzienkuje...sobacze co z tego wyjdzie....:-) | 16:41 |
| jonwil | ok, it definatly looks like its done through libhildonmime | 16:41 |
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| jonwil | now to find the code in microb that calls libhldonmime | 16:42 |
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| jonwil | hmm, need to read the hildonmime documentation | 16:50 |
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| jonwil | ok, better yet, I found a dbus interface I can trigger :) | 16:59 |
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| jonwil | com.nokia.CallUI.ShowDialpad seems to work :) | 17:06 |
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| jonwil | now I know how to trigger a call if I decide to write this app I am thinking about :) | 17:12 |
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| sambo7 | have to leave right now...will be back in the evening hopefully to give you an update if recovering with phoenix works | 17:17 |
| jonwil | its an app to make it easier if I want to call around to a bunch of different outlets of <retailer X> to figure out if any of them have <item Y> in stock | 17:17 |
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| kerio | is it a good idea to use an ssh agent on the n900 | 18:22 |
| kerio | ? | 18:22 |
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| andre__ | per se it's neither good nor bad. | 18:26 |
| Gyjf | yeah i ssh to my n900 all the time | 18:26 |
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| kerio | andre__: well, it means you have to keep your public keys unencrypted, at least for a bit, on a portable device that can be stolen kinda easily | 18:52 |
| NIN101 | you mean private keys I guess, and "unencrypted" isn't true either | 18:56 |
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| kerio | er, yes | 18:58 |
| kerio | don't you need the full plaintext of those to connect? | 18:58 |
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| NIN101 | sure, but they don't have to be stored unencrypted on the EMMC. | 18:59 |
| NIN101 | I mean dm-crypt/cryptsetup, truecrypt. | 19:02 |
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| kerio | oh, he left | 20:23 |
| kerio | NIN101 et al: i meant unencrypted in ram | 20:23 |
| kerio | root can happily access /dev/ram and /dev/kram | 20:23 |
| kerio | ssh-agent will have to keep the private key unencrypted to use it | 20:24 |
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| kerio | i mean, i use ssh-agent on my laptop but it requires a password to access | 20:35 |
| kerio | so you can't get to the plaintext without freezing the ram | 20:35 |
| kerio | and it's a laptop, so it's quite hard | 20:35 |
| kerio | the n900, on the other hand, is absolute crap wrt security | 20:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | I vaguely recall someone saying they;'d gotten ffull dick encryptipn working. | 20:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Full disc encryption | 20:58 |
| Gh0sty | LOL | 20:59 |
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| kerio | SpeedEvil: full rootfs compression is slow enough already | 21:02 |
| kerio | and it's not a matter of encryption | 21:02 |
| kerio | it's a matter of ssh-agent requiring the *decrypted plaintext* in ram | 21:02 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: should i file a bug against rootsh and sudser for allowing passwordless root execution? it's a pretty big security flaw, after all | 21:03 |
| kerio | i mean, HAM itself is fucking awful | 21:03 |
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| NIN101 | I got /home/ and MyDocs encryption at least. No point in encrypted /, and it would be a big pain. | 21:05 |
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| Estel_ | Hello #maemo! | 21:13 |
| * Estel_ is back to "civilization", after almost 3 weeks vacations - now only another day of travelling, and "sweet home" | 21:14 | |
| Estel_ | just little question - have anyone experienced (or is experiencing) strange behavior of N900, that - after turning off - have problems with turning on again, due to starting in act-dead mode *without* charger connected? | 21:15 |
| Estel_ | otherwise, it works 100% ok - including USB data connection (incl. hostmode) and charging | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | i always wait for 60 sec to restart | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | mine never starts immediatly after i shut it down | 21:16 |
| Estel_ | Gh0sty, my N900, after power off and usual little waiting time, starts immediately on pressing power buton, but, in act-dead | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | hm no | 21:16 |
| Estel_ | (framebuffer messages indicates that it's act-dead) | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | if I shut it down | 21:16 |
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| Gh0sty | press power again | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | does nothing | 21:16 |
| Gh0sty | wait 10 - 20 sec | 21:17 |
| Estel_ | and after a while it turns itself off, due to no charger connected | 21:17 |
| Gh0sty | press power | 21:17 |
| Gh0sty | it starts ... | 21:17 |
| Estel_ | well, mine is in such loop no way to turn it on, until I take battery off for few minutes | 21:17 |
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| Estel_ | then, upon inserting battery, I can turn it on normally. Situation repeats on next power off | 21:18 |
| Estel_ | but, if I insert battery too early - for example, 30 seconds after removal, instead of waiting 2 minutes - it turns itself on instantly, when I put battery in | 21:19 |
| Estel_ | in act-dead, again | 21:19 |
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| Estel_ | when it happens (vibration on battery inserted, and act-dead) I know that I can't turn it on for a life of me - need to take battery away and wait few minutes | 21:19 |
| Estel_ | it looks like it need to wait until goldcap discharge, no idea why | 21:20 |
| Estel_ | I would say something about shorted data+ abd - pins, so it think that it's connected to charger and enters act-dead, *but* they're not shorted, and when working, it detects data + and - correctly | 21:21 |
| Estel_ | no problem with USB data and charging | 21:21 |
| Estel_ | as said, 0 problems, until I need to restart or turn it off and on | 21:21 |
| Estel_ | quite irritating, though - every reboot = taking battery out for few mins (or no turning on) | 21:22 |
| Estel_ | any ideas, anyone? DocScrutinizer? | 21:22 |
| Estel_ | it would look hardware'ish, if not for fact that hardware seems to be 100% OK via other tests (like usb connection) and it "smells" software'ish :P | 21:23 |
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| Sicelo | Estel_: was there no such thing in some early power kernel .. which was related to boost current/voltage after using hostomode :/ | 21:33 |
| Sicelo | 5~/win 22 | 21:36 |
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| Estel_ | Sicelo, no idea, but it happens also when I haven't used hostmode (since last "reboot") | 21:42 |
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| kerio | Estel_: i had that once, phone thinking the charger was plugged in, and entered act_dead mode on shutdown | 21:46 |
| kerio | but i could turn it on afterwards, and it fixed itself | 21:46 |
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| Estel_ | kerio, hm, mine doesn't want to fix itself for a week now | 21:51 |
| kerio | Estel_: reflash and restore | 21:52 |
| Estel_ | good joke :P | 21:52 |
| Estel_ | I haven't done full reflash on this device since one after buying it | 21:52 |
| kerio | no srsly | 21:52 |
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| Estel_ | I haven't did it even when faced Most Irritating Issue (tm) with broken .ogg/theora playback, so I'm not going to do it now :P | 21:53 |
| kerio | btw, ask ShadowJK how to properly reset the battery/charging chips | 21:53 |
| Estel_ | kerio, I've already chatted with him about it. Reseting bq2x00 doesn't help here | 21:53 |
| kerio | sucks to be you, i guess | 21:54 |
| kerio | check the connector | 21:54 |
| Estel_ | it looks like for some twisted reason it doesn't shut down properly, and think that it's in constant act-dead | 21:54 |
| Estel_ | conenctor is ok, and as said, usb data and charging works fine in all humanly possible combinations | 21:54 |
| Estel_ | 0 issues | 21:54 |
| Estel_ | detecting wall-charger too | 21:55 |
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| Estel_ | (i.e. D+/D- short detection) | 21:55 |
| kerio | dick around with r&d mode maybe | 21:55 |
| kerio | it screws up act_dead mode, doesn't it | 21:55 |
| Estel_ | maybe, but R& doesn't touch act-dead afaik :P | 21:55 |
| kerio | hm | 21:55 |
| Estel_ | I may end up like reinob kicking this sucker out of device | 21:55 |
| Estel_ | act-dead, not reinob (kicking) | 21:56 |
| kerio | try turning it off from bootmenu | 21:56 |
| Estel_ | fun fact - when this bug happens, bootmenu/backupmenu doesn't show up, as it doesn't in act-dead :P | 21:56 |
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| kerio | lol! | 21:57 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: your best friend's phone is stuck in act_dead mode, wat do? | 21:57 |
| kerio | Estel_: did you use bq24x00_charger? | 21:58 |
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| Estel_ | kerio, sure, but it happens even if I don't use it since power cycle | 21:58 |
| Estel_ | or not? | 21:58 |
| Estel_ | need to check it | 21:58 |
| Estel_ | but it definitely happens, when I have BME enabled and bq2415 rmod'ed | 21:59 |
| kerio | i had it happen when i used pali's module | 21:59 |
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| kerio | and i think bme was still running | 21:59 |
| Estel_ | but I haven5 checked if it happen, if I don't load it at all during runtime | 21:59 |
| Estel_ | kerio, I never use Pali's module with bme | 22:00 |
| Estel_ | but, it's good guess anyway | 22:00 |
| kerio | Estel_: does it think the charger is plugged in when the system is up? | 22:00 |
| Estel_ | I though about that, but was curious why no one else reports it | 22:00 |
| Estel_ | no | 22:00 |
| Estel_ | only when disabled | 22:00 |
| Estel_ | You know what? I'll test it now :P | 22:00 |
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| vi__ | estel set r&d flag power-button | 22:04 |
| vi__ | if n900 STILL act dead then it is time for a reflash. | 22:04 |
| kerio | vi__: too late | 22:04 |
| vi__ | WTS 1*N950, 1000 euro. | 22:06 |
| kerio | WTB 1*N950, 3 euro. | 22:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | wtb Nokia, 8 euro. | 22:19 |
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| vi__ | fuck nokia | 22:20 |
| Venemo_N9 | what happened? | 22:21 |
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| joga | 8 euro? | 22:29 |
| kerio | Venemo_N9: the elopcalypse or however it's spelled | 22:29 |
| kerio | but it's kind of old | 22:30 |
| kerio | i'd totally buy Nokia for 19.95 € | 22:30 |
| kerio | especially if billy mays made an infomercial about it | 22:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | kerio, so nothing new | 22:32 |
| kerio | nope | 22:32 |
| kerio | but vi__ is selling his n950 for 1000 EUR | 22:32 |
| kerio | i offered 3 | 22:32 |
| Venemo_N9 | 3 what? | 22:33 |
| kerio | 3€ | 22:33 |
| kerio | he didn't accept :( | 22:33 |
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| Venemo_N9 | lol | 22:39 |
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| Estel_ | kerio, confirming, this bug seems to have something to do with latest bq2415 things in KP | 22:50 |
| Estel_ | Sicelo's note about similaritiy to ancient bug with 5V is also in line with it | 22:50 |
| Estel_ | strange obserfvation - if I kinsert battery without bug manifesting itself (no vibration = no instant-turning-on in act-dead), I have something like 5 seconds to turn device on normally | 22:51 |
| Estel_ | if I do it later, it boots up in act-dead again | 22:51 |
| kerio | Estel_: well, at least it can be kicked into shape by bme | 22:52 |
| kerio | by the way, act_dead mode is stupid | 22:52 |
| Estel_ | this, + fact, that leaving device without battery for few minutes temporary fixes it (*if*I turn device on fast enough after iknserting battery) would suggest some capacitors getting charged on 5V | 22:52 |
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| Estel_ | and device thinking it's in act-dead | 22:52 |
| Estel_ | kerio, yea, it is | 22:52 |
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| Estel_ | but bme doesn't kick it in shape 100%. It just allow normal turn off/on cycle | 22:53 |
| Estel_ | but pulling battery out and inserting again + turning device on more than 5 seconds after it = bug kicks again | 22:53 |
| Estel_ | no matter if bq2415 was used, or not. I suspect, that it have something to do with changes in KP itself, that allow Pali's charging module to work | 22:54 |
| Estel_ | need to report it to him | 22:54 |
| Estel_ | thanks for good advices, both of You, it was shot for ten points | 22:54 |
| kerio | Estel_: oh btw vi__ said something too, not sure if you read the logs | 22:55 |
| vi__ | kerio: my suggestion was a bodge. | 22:57 |
| kerio | k | 22:57 |
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| Estel_ | vi__, thanks anyway, will check logs | 23:03 |
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| eijk | I can't find it on Google: Does anybody know what it means when the N900 makes that deep "ping" sound on shutdown? I think it's some error indicator and I had it when the internal backup battery was broken. Is there any place where I can get more information? | 23:34 |
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| Sicelo | i just had a discussion with an android fanboy. he pointed out the benefits of LBE Privacy Guard app, in, for example, showing which app is accessing IMEI info, etc. | 23:41 |
| Sicelo | btw, is there a way for us to monitor such stuff on maemo? | 23:41 |
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| kerio | Sicelo: the source code | 23:48 |
| kerio | >:D | 23:48 |
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| Sicelo | :P | 23:48 |
| Sicelo | what about dbus thingies maybe :-/ | 23:50 |
| kerio | strace | 23:51 |
| kerio | besides, wtf is an "app"? | 23:52 |
| Sicelo | lulz, it's what makes android tick.. they always say we have thousand of apps :P | 23:53 |
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| kerio | yeah but | 23:53 |
| kerio | like | 23:53 |
| kerio | how many apps is aircrack-ng? | 23:53 |
| kerio | it's at least 5 or 6 binaries | 23:53 |
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| Sicelo | lulz..just now i burst out laughing.. so this app of his says Jorte is accessing IMEI info. Jorte is a calendar. heh | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | wft is it doing with IMEI then. | 23:58 |
| * Sicelo gives his N900 some love :D | 23:59 | |
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