IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-08-09

vi__not mention a lot of 18650s from china are longer than 65mm.00:00
vi__It would be far more logical to use 14450a00:00
vi__It would be far more logical to use 14450s00:00
vi__You can fit like 5 of them going across the n90000:01
vi__actually, I don't care about a 6ah battery.00:02
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vi__I want my n900 to fit in my pocket00:02
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* Gh0sty hands vi__ a saw00:03
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narcosThe /tmp/ partition on maemo is 1mb?00:04
narcosSeems scarce for a 32GB internal memory.00:04
vi__I think it is actually on rootfs or ram or somthing stupid.00:06
teotwaki__Here we go, I've setup a github repo, and am now developing my C++ application server publicly :)00:06
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narcosvi__: Odd choice...00:08
kerio/tmp/ is a tmpfs00:09
keriohell, why shouldn't it be?00:09
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DocScrutinizer05jaska: every week, for 24h ;-P00:13
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DocScrutinizer05(want my n900 to fit in my pocket) indeed, and a battery (back)pack size of a second N900 can easily get attached to N900's back and connected to N900 either via USB or with some special contacting rework with some pogopins and 2 holes in N900's backcover00:15
ShadowJKWell if they harvest the 18650s from laptop packs, and then add the protection circuit and new wrapper, they'll always end up bgiger than 18x65 :P00:16
kerioDocScrutinizer05: but that requires plugging in stuff to the microusb port00:16
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: afaic the round cells usually come without protective circuitry00:17
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: ShadowJK: afaik the round cells usually come without protective circuitry00:17
ShadowJKIt's both00:17
ShadowJKand sometimes they just add broken protection circuits00:17
DocScrutinizer05kerio: that's why I mentioned the pogopin solution, to save you from answering like that00:18
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DocScrutinizer05two strong magnets to hold on to 2 iron buttons glued inside N900 backcover00:19
DocScrutinizer054 holes in the 4 corners, 2 of them for pogopins to make contact00:19
DocScrutinizer05the other two just mechanical bolts to fixate the backpack00:20
DocScrutinizer05attach and remove with a click00:20
kerioor just go the ghetto route:
* DocScrutinizer05 for one couldn't think of anything more clumsy than a phne with such a huge battery, esp regarding carrying it compared to normal N900 and a sufficient number of spare batteries or USB powerpacks00:23
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int_uaLooks like I have a dbus-daemon memory leak00:55
int_uacan anyone help confirming with one bash command?00:55
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MrPingu3MB on 35 min uptime ;)01:14
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KilrooIs this an accurate statement? If using the thumb repository and u-boot on my n900, I might as well make a thumb-capable combined image, because I can no longer use the attachboot that comes with it.03:30
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KilrooThis channel was a lot livelier the last time I attempted to make use of it.03:49
nox-its 2am in europe...03:50
entitled4am at Finland03:50
KilrooI was about to say, Europe is more than one timezone.03:50
nox-true :)03:50
KilrooI did not, however, realize that you could go west from Finland far enough to change two hours and still be in Europe rather than out in the Atlantic.03:52
nox-well its almost 3am here, almost 2am in uk, almost 4am in .fi03:53
nox-and later further east03:53
KilrooThat's generally how it works03:53
entitledNo doubt.03:53
KilrooI just didn't know Finland was in that time zone.03:54
KilrooThe only place I've had occasion to know was in GMT+2 before was Syria.03:54
LaoLang_coolhappy maemoing!03:54
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DocScrutinizer05make use of a channel? weird wording04:15
* DocScrutinizer05 feels used04:15
DocScrutinizer05anyway, burgerking time04:15
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entitledwhy not?05:10
KilrooGood question.05:10
Kilroo...Once I install thumb packages, I can't use a non-thumb-enabled kernel with them. Right?05:10
robbiethe1stYou can't.05:11
KilrooSo it would make sense to track down the steps for making combined images for u-boot, and make an attachboot that I'd actually be able to use.05:12
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DocScrutinizer05you lost me on that05:37
DocScrutinizer05combined image for uboot?05:37
KilrooThe artist formerly known as noloboot, I think.05:44
KilrooIf I understand correctly, once I install thumb-compiled packages, the attached kernel that u-boot-flasher normally provides is essentially useless to me; I can only use thumb-enabled kernels. It seems like a logical step from there would be to create a combined image with a thumb-enabled kernel, and flash that instead.05:47
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KilrooIt is entirely possible that there is some aspect of this that I have not grasped correctly.05:49
KilrooI'm just in a good mood because I finally found the posts that led me to realize the reason my attempts to switch to u-boot were failing was that I needed to reformay MyDocs...05:51
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kerioKilroo: why do you need uboot, btw?09:52
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vi_Did you see the German discuss gold medal winner?11:00
vi_All ripping his shirt offf like the hulk then partying so hard he lost his ID and had to sleep on the ground outside the olympic accomodation.11:01
vi_germans know how to party!11:01
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ShapeshifterHi. I just started using my spare N900 and I wanted to solder down the USB port more properly to prevent it from being ripped out. I had already done this to my first N900 and it worked very well. However, this time I did a very poor job (using a different solder and soldering iron) and the solder just wouldn't stick. In turn, the sides of the port is now covered in flux and it's even harder to make this work. I got frustrated, gave ...11:36
Shapeshifter... up, and reassembled it but I would definitely like to try again. But first, I need to clean out all that flux from around and within the port. Any ideas how to do that?11:37
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: you might have an idea, I'm sure ^11:37
Shapeshifteri.e. is it okay to dip the usb end into alcohol or should I only be using a brush dipped in alcohol or some other fluid?11:38
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vi_Shapeshifter: flux will not do anything any harm.12:01
vi_Also, if it is covered in flux, how the F did it not 'stick'?12:02
Shapeshiftervi_: I don't know :( Maybe the iron is too cold or something, it's a cheap shit piece.12:03
ShapeshifterI should get a chisel type head instead of the pointed one.12:03
Shapeshiftervi_: I should say that I didn't use any extra flux, just the one contained in the solder12:04
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theheadofabroomShapeshifter: did you heat the solder or the pin?12:37
Shapeshiftertheheadofabroom: I tried heating the USB connector and the PCB (I had scraped off some of the gree coating to reveal the copper base)12:37
theheadofabroomif you try to stick solder to a cold pin it won't work - you probably already knew that seeing as it's soldering 10112:37
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theheadofabroomodd then - could be either you didn't heat it enough, or your solder might be shitty - I've had pretty bad luck with lead-free solder compounds12:41
ShapeshifterI think I need a chisel shaped tip, else I can't heat the parts properly.12:41
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ShapeshifterAny the iron is probably shit. I think it's 15W or something like that.12:41
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theheadofabroomsurely that should just mean it's slower, rather than doesn't get as hot?12:42
theheadofabroomnot sure - not used anything under 20W12:42
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ShapeshifterBut how do I remove the old flux? I think I can't apply new solder with that much flux being present. Some of it kinda seeped into the connector and now the usb plug is even harder to remove. I'd like to remove all the residue before and after I try again...12:49
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HurrianShapeshifter, you've got yourself into quite the situation13:12
Hurrianthe part's available online though, if you want to try with a different connector13:13
ShapeshifterHurrian: the USB connector is completely fine, I'm just doing this to prevent future damage.13:13
ShapeshifterHurrian: I just need to get rid of the excess flux and try again with a chisel tip.13:13
Hurrianuse a sucker after heating it up?13:14
ShapeshifterHurrian: my question is, what kind of cleaning fluid I can use without damaging the board etc. and if I can just dip the usb connector into alcohol or whatever. Mhh, I don't really have a sucker.13:15
HurrianAcetone, not alcohol13:15
Hurrianoff the shelf alcohol probably contains water13:16
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DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: use Kontact-Chemie Platinenreiniger or some similar spraycan with flux cleanser13:28
DocScrutinizer05also NEVER USe ACETONE13:29
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: okay thanks, I'll visit a shop that sells proper Platinenreiniger.13:29
DocScrutinizer05acetone will definitely ruin stuff13:30
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: what kind of tip and solder would you recommend for this job?13:31
DocScrutinizer05unless softened by other components in the fluid13:31
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: I mean soldering down the (intact) USB connector to make it more robust13:32
DocScrutinizer05normal pb-sn solder, (eg, stannol) 40W solder iron, chisel tip13:33
DocScrutinizer05first coat the USB with solder, then the pcb. Then connect both by heating up both and adding solder13:33
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: would a 15W iron work? ^^13:33
DocScrutinizer05no way13:34
DocScrutinizer05your results are typical for 15W13:35
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: Mh. Something like this is obviously cheap, but it's supposed to have 60W. Would you recommend against such a cheap product or doesn't it make a difference?
DocScrutinizer05not hot enough13:35
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: After all, it's just a piece of metal that's supposed to get hot. Not sure what could go wrong with a cheap product (other than it failing sooner)13:36
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DocScrutinizer05in this particular case it doesn't make much of a difference13:36
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: mh, wait a minute. I just found the actual iron I've been using yesterday: It's actually 50W...13:36
DocScrutinizer05however make damn sure you connect the solder iron metal case to one of the N900 GND with a lab-wire13:37
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: what do you mean by that?13:37
DocScrutinizer05ground your N90013:37
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: while doing the soldering?13:38
DocScrutinizer05and ground your iron13:38
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: why? If I ground the N900, that encourages electron flow, doesn't it? Isn't it better to not have a circuit between iron and ground?13:39
DocScrutinizer05esp cheap irons will be prone to have capacitive sneaking current to the solder tip13:39
DocScrutinizer05that's why I said "connect to solder iron"13:39
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: so I need to have a cable running from the n900 (where?) to the iron?13:40
DocScrutinizer05somewhere on N900 where you have definitive good ground. I'd suggest USB connector if it wasn't for... you know13:41
SpeedEvilbattery minus13:42
DocScrutinizer05that's NOT GND!13:42
SpeedEvilI thought the context was grounding while soldering13:43
DocScrutinizer05there's a 0.0x R shunt in between for bq27200 ;-)13:43
SpeedEvilso the sense is quite irrelevant13:43
DocScrutinizer05I'd prefer any of the obvious large gnd-planes13:44
DocScrutinizer05maybe it's actually no bad idea to plug an USBplug into the receptacle, and use that for GND13:45
DocScrutinizer05has other benefits as well, but also downsides13:45
SpeedEvilnever stress something when bouldering it. And plugging in a connector often stress is he can I lick your body quite a lot13:47
SpeedEvilnever stress a connector while soldering.13:47
SpeedEviland plugging in a connector can stress the body quite a lot.13:48
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* SpeedEvil is playing with speech recognition.13:48
DocScrutinizer05your speech recog is perverted it seems13:49
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: how hot should the iron ideally be?13:49
DocScrutinizer05rather hot13:49
DocScrutinizer05i'd rather go for the ~40013:50
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: maximum power (they claim the iron goes to 450 C although I doubt it)13:50
SpeedEvilI am depressed that the state of speech recognition is worse now than in 1995.13:50
DocScrutinizer05no, you're mumbling more13:51
SpeedEvilAnd then I was using a 300 megahertz processor13:51
SpeedEvilI want dragon dictate n my phone.13:51
* DocScrutinizer05 curses the fact he's short on milk for a proper coffee13:52
SpeedEvilI keep 20l or so of high temp processed milk. works well.13:54
kerio>proper coffee13:59
SpeedEvilmy morning coffee. one cup of heat treated skimmed milk, coffee powder, microwave 90s14:01
kerio>instant coffee14:02
kerioyou are making me cry ;_;14:02
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DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: hehe, exactly same here, just I prefer proper fresh milk. the diff in taste is massive14:07
SpeedEvilit's lots better than it was.14:07
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DocScrutinizer05though, one diff: my microwave needs 180s for the ammount of milk I use14:08
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DocScrutinizer05oh, another diff: "skimmed" I rather try to avoid, since I'm counting my calories (and welcome each single one)14:10
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SpeedEvilopposite here. :-)14:14
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: microwaved milk??14:14
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: (solder) I seem to recall I had really good experience with the Sn60Pb39Ag1 type, though it's quite expensive14:14
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DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: anyway get really high qualtiy multicore flux electronic solder14:16
DocScrutinizer05and even getting additional *electronic* flux might be a good idea14:18
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* DocScrutinizer05 finally takes a second approach to get another 2 bare PCB, to eventually do destructive investigation on where to drill holes next to USB to get this thing fixed the nuke safe way14:21
DocScrutinizer05nah, on a second thought, this won't pan out14:24
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: I think soldering it down works well enough. At least it did when I did it on my first N90014:42
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ShapeshifterI also broke one of the two plastic threads where the small torx screws go into -.-15:26
Shapeshifterthe screw turns over. I might try this method if I'm feeling brave:
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: well, this method might work, but is kinda overkill. I'd rather use hotglue which is elastic enough to allow removing excess stuff and drive thread into it. Use simple grease on screw for separator. Or even simpler: place part of a wooden match or toothpick into the hole of the platic thread15:33
DocScrutinizer05usually though you use a srew with 20% larger diameter15:34
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: I might try hot glue. I wouldn't want to stick anything solid into the hole because I'd be afraid of cracking the plastic.15:43
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DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: try find a straw or wire isolation "tube" or similar, that fits into the hole nicely15:45
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DocScrutinizer05or really just a small slice of a match that fills in the missing plasic on one side. the screw will pish against it and cut new thread on other side of plastic15:46
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: or really just a small slice of a match that fills in the missing plasic on one side. the screw will push against it and cut new thread on other side of plastic15:46
DocScrutinizer05it just works, you mustn't use too much or too little material though, just right amount so screw goes in nicely with a tiny bit of force15:47
DocScrutinizer05wow, a spider yoyo coming down the ceiling right between my face and LCD screen of the laptop15:50
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DocScrutinizer05byebye lil spider15:51
DocScrutinizer05though they eat mosquitos, I don't love spiders so much to allow them go between me and my PC ;-P Gave it a free flight right to the garden15:53
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Shapeshifterspiders are awesome little ninjas15:54
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SpeedEvilinsects in between backlight and LCD are way more annoying.16:03
SpeedEvilespecially if they die in there.16:03
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DocScrutinizer05in German they are called "Gewittertierchen" nfc why. And it's a well known rather common problem it seems16:09
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jaskaheh, ive had a spider come hack my monitor more than once, just move them away from dangerous areas :)16:22
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RST38hDigia To Acquire Qt From Nokia17:49
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: what was the name of that flux remover?18:27
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: and what's the name for flux and flucremover in german?18:27
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Gh0styflux remover?18:28
Gh0stythere is a flux capacitor in the n900 allowing timetravel? :o18:28
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Shapeshifternvm platinenreiniger18:28
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: yay, found the exact kontaktchemie platinenreiniger you mentioned at my shop18:34
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DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: Kontakt WL, or rather Kontakt PCC20:28
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, Kontakt PCC not available? Use Kontakt LR then20:43
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keriohm, why did the gpg key change?21:05
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: I have Kontakt LR21:29
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: and I just applied it. Works very well21:29
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: I actually went ahead and bought a more proper iron as well.21:29
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: It's probably no rolls royce but certainly better than the old one. It's a 48W fixpoint, german thingy.21:30
DocScrutinizer05fine. Just use a really good electronics Sn60Pb39Cu1 multicore flux solderwire21:32
ShapeshifterI have Vielstedter SN60PbCu221:32
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DocScrutinizer05if it's proper multicore high quality flux, it's ok as well - don't use solderwire that "bleeds" out the flux, makes bubbles and stuff21:33
DocScrutinizer0548W seems just OK for this job, I'd guess21:37
Shapeshifterwow this was easy21:37
ShapeshifterI figure the other iron was simply way too cold21:37
DocScrutinizer05the copper croundplane can consume quite a lot of heat until it reaches correct soldering temperature21:38
Shapeshifterone side done21:38
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DocScrutinizer05the knowledge of professionals is mostly a knowledge about the right tools to use for the job ;-)21:41
DocScrutinizer05a hobbyist with professional tools might come up with better results than a professional with hobbyist tools21:43
DocScrutinizer05(depends on job)21:43
DocScrutinizer05not even I could solder this USB with a 15W soldering iron (unless I use all my tricks at once ;-P and a lot of swearing)21:44
Shapeshifterother side done. There's very little space on the other side. I should also get one of those solder suction things to remove wrongly placed solder21:45
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DocScrutinizer05indispensable tool, yes21:46
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DocScrutinizer05the cheaper ones are like <10EUR21:46
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ShapeshifterI even went by the book and tinned the iron before putting it away ;)21:49
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freemangordon~seen zeq21:54
infobotzeq <~s_j_newbu@> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 5d 2h 20m 56s ago, saying: 'kerio: probably "kernel-feature-sigmask-syscalls" would be more accurate, but I'm open to suggestions.'.21:54
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ShapeshifterBy the way, is there anything new in maemoland? I haven't been following things since the N9 was released21:55
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lartza_Shapeshifter: finnish startup called Jolla has recruited a lot of the nokia staff and announced a new meego phone will be out very soon21:59
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Shapeshiftermhh, yeah I heard about that.22:00
Shapeshifterso I guess there still is hope22:00
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: over at #maemo-ssu freemangordon and others do some awesome job to bring all new power to maemo, with enabling thumb, getting new better compilers and whatnot else22:00
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: so thumb2 really is something worth noting, unlike most of the other 'tuning' stuff?22:01
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Shapeshifteri.e. it's not just voodoo? I read the forum post, but there was no mention of benchmarks22:02
DocScrutinizer05sounds like. I haven't tested it yet, but all reports say it's fast like hell, compared to stock stuff22:02
lartza_also the "new" camera app of maemo-ssu can record smooth 720p video22:02
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DocScrutinizer05ooh, and specially for you: cssu fixed alarmd recently22:03
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freemangordonShapeshifter: it is, most of the times my n900 is faster than my n950, not to mention how fast is thumb2 compiled microb-engine22:03
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: there was a bug? I should update my package sometime. I think I'll give it a go this weekend.22:04
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Shapeshifterfreemangordon: wow, sounds promising!22:04
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DocScrutinizer05I miss to recall the exact term, there was a identifier for transactions of alarmd, that was borked22:04
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: Have you been going by a different nick? I haven't seen you around when I still frequented the forums and irc.22:05
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: cookie :)22:05
DocScrutinizer05yep, thanks freemangordon22:05
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freemangordonShapeshifter: no, I use this nick since 2010, though I am active on IRC for an yeah and a half or something22:06
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: ah22:06
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: don't you have to return the N950 sometime soon?22:08
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: we even got a CSSU Stable release now :-D22:08
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: yes, I saw it :) I got it on my 'new' n900.22:08
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kerioohai zeq22:09
zeqhi kerio22:09
keriofreemangordon was looking for you22:09
zeqfreemangordon: pong?22:09
freemangordonzeq: hi22:09
zeqI was blocked by t-mobile22:10
kerioShapeshifter: but if you install testing you can install thumb too!22:10
Shapeshifterkerio: I shall try it22:10
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freemangordonShapeshifter: my n950 is a CA, and according to qgil I own it, it is not landed22:10
zeqstill on holiday, but must be a new month on my contract :)22:10
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: neat22:11
zeqwhat have I missed?22:11
freemangordonkerio: no need to have CSSU-testing to install thumb, read the damn thread on TMO at once :)22:11
freemangordonzeq: NFC, I was away too :D22:11
zeqfreemangordon: I don't know if you read before I left, but I built h-d with fast-math, after changing the isnanf(), that and the libc6 has been running stable all week so far.22:13
Shapeshifterforgot to refit the antenna again >.>22:14
zeqbrb switching to wifi teather22:14
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freemangordonzeq: I missed that. But anyway, I am on holiday starting tomorrow, will be back in the middle of the next week22:15
keriofreemangordon: isn't thumb based on testing, at least?22:17
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* Shapeshifter isn't used to the stand actually sticking to the shell. been used to it dangling about.22:18
Shapeshifterand the slide mechanism is soo snappy ;)22:18
freemangordonkerio: it is, but that is a different from " you have to have -testing installed"22:18
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Shapeshifterand the keyboard is a blueish white! the old one is actually yellow22:19
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freemangordonkerio: enabling -thimb repo enables -testing too22:19
keriofreemangordon: ...waaaait22:19
kerioi was going to say that :)22:19
Shapeshiftermhh... and the new one remembers the time even when removing the battery...22:19
Shapeshifterthat's odd.22:19
keriobupbat not failed yet?22:19
freemangordon22:13 <freemangordon> zeq: I missed that. But anyway, I am on holiday starting tomorrow, will be back in the middle of the next week22:20
kerio(notice the "yet")22:20
zeqfreemangordon: ah ok.  I'll be back home at the weekend.22:20
freemangordonShapeshifter: you replaced the battery with a new one or with a capacitor?22:20
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: no I removed the battery to solder down the usb port and upon refitting the battery and turning it on, I'm not greeted by the tutorial anymore22:21
Shapeshifterfreemangordon: my old n900 would always need me to set the date and time22:21
freemangordonaah, ok22:21
zeqShapeshifter: you're lucky then :)22:21
freemangordondoes anyone ever replaced the clock battery with a capacitor?22:22
infobotfreemangordon meant: has anyone ever replaced the clock battery with a capacitor?22:22
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MrPinguquick question what's the difference between cssu3 and kp51r1? Couldn't find a changelog for cssu322:25
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kerioyou mean kernel-cssu (from cssu-thumb) and kernel-power?22:26
freemangordonzeq: BTW fennec is missing volume keys zoom control22:26
zeqwhat happened to it?22:27
zeqgoing to check my git repo22:27
freemangordonNFC, seems the patch is not commited, or is lost during rebase22:27
kerioyay git22:28
zeqfreemangordon: I'll take a look22:28
freemangordonMrPingu: kernel-cssu3 is kp51r1, changelog is in .deb and on gitorious22:28
MrPinguYes I mean kernel-cssu and kp51r1 ;)22:28
MrPingufreemangordon, thanks22:29
freemangordonnp :)22:30
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MrPinguFAM/HAM didn't display changelog for cssu3 ;)22:32
kerioapt ftw22:32
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freemangordonzeq: did you get your devel n900?22:42
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MrPinguWoohoo finally got my money returned for my fake digitizer22:43
MrPingu+ shipping costs. Took 2 months and alot of complaining but I got in the end :)22:44
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zeqfreemangordon: should be getting it next week, I asked vi to hold-off until I got back.22:46
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zeqfreemangordon: any other patch missing?22:46
zeqI have them all saved separately22:47
freemangordonzeq: I think no, though I didn't check the source for "non-compositing" stuff22:48
zeqhave you pushed anything?22:49
freemangordonno :)22:49
zeqsaves me from pulling :)22:49
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zeqfreemangordon: shall I rebase while I'm at it?22:50
freemangordonzeq: when we are back, we should pester romaxa re those patches, I don't see any development on the bugtracker22:50
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freemangordonzeq: why not22:51
freemangordonzeq: and we MUST find a way to reduce the memory usage, though I cannot find a way how to do it :(22:52
freemangordonromaxa is the one to help, again :D22:52
zeqdid you ask on #mobile?22:52
freemangordonzeq: no, I was not active since doc managed to make me angry ;)22:53
zeqoh, that's why you were away?22:53
ShapeshifterMhh, where can I set the desktop tile size for regular app launchers? On my old n900 they are slightly smaller but it doesn't seem to be theme related and I can't find such a parameter in transitions.ini either. I forgot how I did this...22:54
freemangordonzeq: yeah :)22:55
freemangordonShapeshifter: iirc there was a patch in h-d for that, but it did not make it in CSSU as it was buggy22:56
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Shapeshifterfreemangordon: mhh, I see. There's also a tool for resizing the icons but I don't actually need that. The icons are fine, but the background is just a bit too big.22:59
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freemangordonShapeshifter: speaking of nicks.. what is yours @ TMO?23:00
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Shapeshifterfreemangordon: shapeshifter23:00
freemangordonhmm, can't remember seeing that, it seems you're not active for more than 2 years. not that it matters, I was just wondering :)23:02
MrPinguYour the guy of alarmed?23:02
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Shapeshifterfreemangordon: yeah I'm kinda busy with other stuff23:03
ShapeshifterMrPingu: yeah. I shall make an update this weekend to include some of the things people proposed23:03
povbotBug 10025: alarmd 1.1.13 does not correctly replace [COOKIE] in exec strings23:03
Shapeshifterexpired ssl cert btw ;)23:04
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Shapeshifternice though that it has been fixed!23:04
Shapeshifterwhat a huge diff23:04
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freemangordonyeah :D23:05
freemangordonanyway, unfortunately I am off to work (real one, not in some bar :) ). night guys23:06
zeqfreemangordon: pushed23:06
freemangordonzeq: thanks, will try it tomorrow23:07
zeqfreemangordon: have a good night23:07
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Shapeshifter-sh: wget: not found23:25
ShapeshifterE: Package wget has no installation candidate23:25
Shapeshiftermhh, needed to add a repo.23:30
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