IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2012-07-13

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DocScrutinizer05kerio: [12.07.2012 18:48:56] <DocScrutinizer05> it loads a secondary NOLO from USB to RAM, to flash the primary NOLO to NAND00:02
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keriooh, from USB00:02
kerioi missed that part00:02
DocScrutinizer05[12.07.2012 22:10:41] <Pali> kerio, when coldflashing, OMAP bootrom will get boot image via usb to RAM and start it. that image (2nd) will wait for next image (nolo) via usb from flasher, flash it into nand bootloader area and boot it00:03
DocScrutinizer05[12.07.2012 22:15:18] <jacekowski> kerio: and downloaded to n900 via usb to n900 ram00:03
kerioand that and that00:03
kerioalthough i wasn't here for the last two00:03
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DocScrutinizer05who's buying MY pizza? ;-P00:06
DocScrutinizer05meh, no delivery service will ship at that time00:06
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keriowhich time? this time?00:07
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keriohm, what language is "Do." for thursday?00:07
DocScrutinizer05I'm curious what you got now00:07
Sicelowho cares about DocScrutinizer05?00:07
kerio -DocScrutinizer05- TIME Do. Jul 12 23:07:17 201200:07
DocScrutinizer05looks about right00:08
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kerioyeah, it feels kinda late for dinner00:08
* DocScrutinizer05 burps and checks the microwave food stash00:08
vi__DocScrutinizer05: you already get the satisfaction of telling people how wrong they are everyday.00:10
DocScrutinizer05I'm aware that's the only thing that sticks in mind of those lurkers00:12
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DocScrutinizer05however I'll not stop the habit, as I think it's actually also helpful00:13
DocScrutinizer05life is too short to watch interesting projects going awry due to flase assumptions or other errors you could've stopped00:18
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, that's slightly toxic, I think. ;)00:20
GeneralAntillesLet people discover their own way unless you're willing to really invest the time into helping them figure it out.00:20
DocScrutinizer05I'm usually not telling "idiot, that's wrong". I try to show a better alternative00:21
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DocScrutinizer05even when I'm not aware of the correct way/method, telling I ran into this or that deadend by using the same flase method still is a friendly act in my book00:23
DocScrutinizer05s/flase/false/ anyway00:24
DocScrutinizer05I for one usually appreciate a "we already tried this, epic fail"00:25
vi__why does my swap space fill up with shit?00:27
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AsuupHello, can I get some help with my n900?00:33
AsuupIs this the right channel or should i be somewhere else?00:34
GeneralAntillesThis is the channel.00:34
Asuup(the problem is with updating libcurl3 to 7.25*** and/or connecting to extras-dev00:34
AsuupJust trying to get my FB widget to work.00:34
Asuupanyway, I installed the Cssu00:35
AsuupEh... maybe I should structure myself from the beginning.00:36
vi__DocScrutinizer05: with the new battery modules loaded and BME stopped, how does host mode work?00:38
AsuupSo, I wanted to get my FB widget to work. Googled my problem and found this thread: --- I tried to use the commands sudo gainroot & apt-get libcurl3 but it didnt allow me to do it without root. Then I installed the Cssu, which didnt fix the problem, and then I installed rootsh and via that I got the terminal commands to work. Got libcurl3 installed,00:41
Asuupbut its not up to date (it is 7.18** and it should be 7.25**). I'm now trying to get update from extras-devel but i cant connect ( * extras-devel/dists/freemantle/free/binary-armel/packages 404 not found [ip**.**.**]00:41
AsuupHope my wall of text doesnt scare you.00:42
AsuupAnd my catalogue info is correct, I have checked it few times.00:42
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AsuupBeen here, no fix.
DocScrutinizer05vi__: I'd suggest you replace/edit my booston script to do whatever Pali suggested to start boostmode (proly "echo boost >mode" or sth like that)00:47
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DocScrutinizer05Asuup: click the cat-eating first link in:00:49
infobotfrom memory, jrtools is
Asuupsee my error?00:49
vi__DocScrutinizer05: so let me clarify...00:50
AsuupFree and fre...00:50
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AsuupTho I will still do that, thanks DocScrutinizer00:51
vi__if I have the 2 battery modules loaded and bme stopped, the n900 will behave as normal.  It will charge and present mass storage/pc suite menu when I plug it into a USB host.00:52
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DocScrutinizer05haha, yes. It won't do that without bme, usually00:56
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DocScrutinizer05there been some "trick" though, we used it in very early hostmode dev stage, when igoshin or blueled did that fake-hostmode00:57
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DocScrutinizer05but honestly I'm amazed it shows that requesters when you plug it to host00:58
DocScrutinizer05will it also show that requester when you plug device to a non-standard charger (missing D+- short)?00:59
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kguHi. Do any of you guys, know how to test dont-fragment bit on the ping command in maemo?10:37
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merlin1991kgu: ping in maemo is busybox ping, so quite possible you'll miss the option todo that10:45
fluxkgu, one option would be to use iptables to manipulate icmp packets so that they have the flag on10:46
kgucan I install another ping?10:46
fluxno, I don't have the command off-hand :)10:46
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fluxthere appears to be iputils-ping available, perhaps it can do it10:47
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kguiputils-ping did the job, thx!10:53
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LaoLang_coolHi, need a recommended app for alarm/timer/stopwatch11:20
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StyXmanLaoLang_cool: there is an alarm in the clock app, works fine (at least for me)11:21
LaoLang_coolStyXman, yes, but it's only for alarm, looking for timer/stopwatch11:22
Lava_CroftLaoLang_cool: there's a timerginny app orso11:26
Lava_Croftgood app for what you seek11:26
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LaoLang_coolLava_Croft, thanks, will try it11:30
LaoLang_cooloh, I can't find it at
LaoLang_cooloh, find it, timerjinni ;p11:31
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Lava_Croftyeah, was about to type the correct name11:41
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Palimerlin1991, are you here?11:48
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: merlin1991 is holiday@greece11:53
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DocScrutinizer05~seen merlin199112:24
infobotmerlin1991 is currently on #maemo #harmattan #maemo-ssu. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 38m 55s, last said: 'kgu: ping in maemo is busybox ping, so quite possible you'll miss the option todo that '.12:24
DocScrutinizer05I guess that means either that even in Greece there are internet cafes or hotspots, or that he's already back12:26
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vi_MohammadAG: ping12:38
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AsoupHey, I was wondering that is there a way to connect to facebook as mobile, with n900?13:23
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AsoupI dont want to be -available- 24/713:24
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chem|stAsoup: ?13:33
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chem|stAsoup: you mean shown as mobile and not -available-?13:34
AsoupA picture is worth more than 1000 words13:34
Asoupchem|st yes.13:34
chem|stthat is on facebooks side to handle, the mobileapp in facebook vanished some time ago13:35
AsoupThought so..13:35
chem|stso the maemo app is no more recognized as mobile app13:35
Asoupany news if its going to be fixed or not?13:35
chem|stfixed... I doubt it13:36
AsoupMeh, well thanks anyway :)13:37
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chem|stAsoup: are you using the built in facebook msgr stuff?13:38
Asoupyes + the widget13:38
Asouptried Fmobi but I hated it.13:39
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Asoupcouldn't minimize the fmobi and the relogging is pain in the ass13:39
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chem|stctrl backspace?13:39
Asoupoh ye, but doesnt fix the relogging13:40
AsoupI wan't to be connected to FB in one or two clicks13:40
Asoupnot 3513:40
chem|stit is actually so unimportant what state you show at facebook that whoever can be bothered I console...13:40
AsoupWell last night I tried leaving my fbook on my n90013:41
Asoup3 friends had told me to go sleep.13:41
Asoupso.. no.13:41
DocScrutinizer05well :-x13:41
chem|stthose problems I would like to trade for mine!13:42
Asoup5 friends telling you to go sleep?13:42
chem|stpeople need to learn that we left the industrial era and joined the network/internet era...13:43
chem|steven my grandma made this step13:43
AsoupWheres the problem?13:43
chem|stand I love to compare people with my grandma cause if even she is able to get it why should a 40year old not?13:44
chem|stAsoup: you complain about people telling you to go to sleep cause you left your phone logged in...13:45
chem|st"12:45 Irssi uptime: 71d 23h 15m 35s" is how long I am logged in...13:46
AsoupIRSSI, so different thing13:46
Asoupthe users of fbook dont understand the uptime!13:46
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chem|stAsoup: nope in the next window is jabber and stuff, means also fb13:46
DocScrutinizer05I don't understand FB users13:47
Asoupthats why I want the Mobile icon to show that I am away, but recieving messages!13:47
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: reminds me of getting sane people to use jabber and close my account!13:47
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: and pimp my website13:48
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Asoupps. How accomplished is the android for n900?13:49
chem|stAsoup: tough and the pan is warm13:50
chem|stif you want android buy an android...13:51
AsoupLike melting butter?13:51
Asoupyeah thought so.13:51
AsoupThats maybe the biggest problem I have with n90013:51
AsoupThat i cant be "away" on fbook13:51
* infobot facepalms at the situation13:51
Asouppreciate it.13:52
chem|stmy biggest problem with n900s is "where to get cheap working n900s from"13:52
Asoupgot for 100€13:54
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: new n900s on amazon-mp 265eur13:57
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: I'm broke atm13:59
DocScrutinizer05but thanks14:00
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vi_chem|st: Holy shit chemist.  71d?? Get some sleep man.14:01
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chem|stvi_: never!14:13
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: me too :/14:13
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dhbikercleven dosent want to set wlan to monitor mode14:27
psycho_oreoswhat's wrong with doing it all by hand?14:27
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dhbikerthe aircrack thing ?14:27
psycho_oreoswell yeah aircrack-ng suite via X terminal14:27
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dhbikergui is quicker :P14:28
psycho_oreosoh yeah.. if you're lazy and/or multitasking :p14:28
dhbikerthe first one..14:28
* psycho_oreos imagines someone wardriving with N900 in one hand and the other hand on steering wheel lol14:29
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psycho_oreosand no.. reality-wise that'll be a ticket if you do get caught fiddling with `phone' whilst driving..14:30
dhbikerbad idea14:31
dhbikerwjile driving14:31
psycho_oreosI'd do it by hand to see if you can actually set it to monitor mode14:31
dhbikerit goe14:31
dhbikerbut not in cleven14:31
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psycho_oreosnot for some people who either: 1) like to multi-task, 2) can't stop fiddling with other things, 3) needs to `twit' real quick...14:31
dhbikeri also see this14:31
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dhbikerchmod: /etc/sudoers.d/cleven.sudoers: No such file or directory14:32
dhbikeri tried to reinstall it14:32
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psycho_oreoshmm.. I'm sure its a few lines (probably only one if anything..) in sudoers file14:33
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psycho_oreosif you tried reinstalling and there's no such file within the package then I suppose it was never included in the first place14:34
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dhbikeryeah but why does it say this then14:36
psycho_oreossay what exactly?14:37
dhbikerno such file or directory14:37
dhbikerthe other line is chown: /etc/sudoers.d/cleven.sudoers: No such file or directory14:38
psycho_oreosdid you check to see if the package actually includes such file?14:38
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dhbikernot yet14:38
dhbikeri will now14:38
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dhbikercleven experimental works14:41
dhbikerill stick with this then :P14:41
dhbikeryes i know i'm lazy :P14:42
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psycho_oreoswell at least your problem is solved :p14:45
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dhbikertrue :P14:47
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FIQ|n900apparently I hit the time when the dpkg GUI checks for updates14:52
FIQ|n900long time no see, which is just good14:52
FIQ|n900this warez-thread on tmo, why isn't it removed yet? :p14:54
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vi_is there anyone here who likes psy?14:55
FIQ|n900why can't I just pay via my phone bill through ovi...14:57
psycho_oreosask nokia lol14:58
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chem|stFIQ|n900: warez thread?15:05
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FIQ|n900chem|st: that one15:09
FIQ|n900created over a half year ago lol15:09
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DocScrutinizer05duh, too late :-/15:13
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: want the links?15:13
DocScrutinizer05sure ;-)15:14
DocScrutinizer05~wiki warez thread15:14
infobotI couldn't find a matching article in wikipedia, look for yerselves:
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vi__does anyone know where maemo file manager gets its filetype icons from?15:26
vi__Also, does anyone else type in the 'unknown' part of captcha just to fuk with the database?15:27
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jargon-i keep reading on tmo that .mkv is supported on n900,but none of my mkv's are playable on my phone15:47
StyXmanapt-get install mplayer?15:50
kerio"supported", he says15:50
Lava_Croftjargon-: your best bet is mplayer or kmplayer (which is just a gui for mplayer)15:51
DocScrutinizer05.mkv is also just a container aiui, what codec actually is inside may differ vasty15:52
DocScrutinizer05not all codecs may be supported by N90015:52
keriohm, why doesn't mafw support it?15:52
kerioi mean, it's a pretty kickass container15:52
Lava_Croftit's also not that widely used15:53
kerioisn't mafw just a gstreamer wrapper, anyway?15:53
jargon-Lava_Croft: any idea what (k)mplayer battery consumption is like?15:55
Lava_Croftjargon-: nope :<15:55
jargon-DocScrutinizer05: how do i find out what the actual codec is?15:55
DocScrutinizer05sorry, no idea15:55
kguyeah digsby going opensource :)  Wonder if a port to maemo would be possible15:56
DocScrutinizer05try handbrake, I heard that name several times now, I'd think a transcoder has also some diagnostic output15:56
Lava_Croftmaybe just trying to play it in mplayer cli shows the actual codec15:56
Lava_Croftas mplayer loads the file and prints info15:56
DocScrutinizer05and, in case, might tell "no decoder for XY format"15:57
Lava_Croftiirc i had trouble with mkv files before15:57
Lava_Crofti just quit bothering with em15:57
jargon-Lava_Croft: i quit mkv too,but i've run out of compatible files to watch. down to just mkv's now :-(15:59
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Lava_Crofti bet theres always some nerd who can cough up 1001 reasons why mkv is better than any other container15:59
Lava_Croftbut for me, mkv is just related to 'trouble with playback'15:59
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jacekowskiLava_Croft: that's mostly because of codecs inside16:04
Lava_Croftjacekowski: yeah16:04
jacekowskiLava_Croft: and codes commonly used with mkv are ussualy HD codecs16:04
jacekowskiand not so many devices can deal with them16:05
Lava_Croftim an end user, i just want shit to work:)16:05
jacekowskiwell, get faster device16:05
Lava_Croftcheaper is just to avoid mkv files:)16:05
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jacekowskiif you want HD16:07
jacekowskithen you can't really avoid MKV16:07
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RaimuEven the LQ material is in Matroska nowadays.16:15
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kerioand rightfully so16:37
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mhoyeHello, everyone. I don't know if this is the right channel for this question, but I'm wondering if it's possible to run the Hildon interface on x86.17:45
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jargon-what about subtitles?18:10
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jargon-nevermind,it's sorted. :-)18:47
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Estel_Woody14619,  could You, kindly, see:
Estel_...I think that commenting and clearing it is quite important thing to do before today's Council's meeting :)19:48
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Estel_BTW, I would like to remind everyone interested, that Council meetings - open for participation of any interested Community member - as held every Friday on 18 UTC19:49
Estel_= 1 hour and 10 minute from now19:49
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Estel_We are honored and pleased, everytime Community members show up to chat with us (or bash us a little ;) )19:50
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jean_brathi DocScrutinizer20:02
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DocScrutinizer51hi jean_brat . sorry still busy at work20:04
jean_bratjust 1 question20:05
Sicelohi rcg20:05
jean_bratthis can be used instead of F & F converter?20:05
jean_bratdon know its N8 cable20:05
Sicelojean_brat: yah, but, u will have to file the sides off20:06
jean_brati need your Go, before i order this20:06
jean_bratmicro usb pins at the bottom?20:06
jean_bratnotches* you mean?20:06
SiceloN8 cable is rectangular at device end, so you will need to file the 'top' sides to be trapezoid like your CA-10120:07
jean_bratohh ok20:07
Sicelootherwise it is reported to work. i have the F-F adapater, and a diy Y-cable for those times i need external power20:08
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rcgSicelo: hi20:08
Sicelorcg: i assume you're in SA :)20:12
Sicelomind a pm?20:12
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rcgSicelo: i am20:14
rcgsure, go on20:14
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Sicelokewl. i'm in Swaziland20:15
rcgwell, am leaving tomorrow.. was just here for a conference20:16
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rcg"here" being south africa ;)20:16
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keriojean_brat: i've been told it's really not worth filing a N8 adapter, considering that a F-F costs like two bucks20:22
kerioif you really want to buy something, buy the galaxy s2 adapter, the plug should fit in the n90020:22
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jean_bratkerio, problem is i find this cable cheaper then F 2 F converter.. since its un conventional in my place. its available at a very premium price20:24
jean_bratthese cables i will get for 3$20:24
keriojean_brat: the n900 microusb receptable is really something you don't want to dick around with, though20:24
kerioconsidering it's stupidly frail20:24
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keriobuy the samsung galaxy s2 one20:25
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Sicelojean_brat: if you really can't source this, you could try the usb port's from otherboard trick. not the best soultion, but helps if you have no other option20:28
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jean_brathmm ok20:28
kerio this one looks fine20:28
kerio2.80€, sounds about right20:29
keriooh, hey, what do you know20:29
keriocompatible with nokia n900/n81020:29
jean_bratcool..i will order this one20:31
jean_bratso this is flawless according to you?20:31
keriothere's a world between "flawless" and that cable20:31
keriobut it should work, yes20:31
jean_bratlol ok20:32
kerioflawless would be a tiny adapter that includes a 1-port usb hub and has a port for the wallcharger that provides .5A to the usb port and .5A to the n90020:34
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kerioor, hell20:34
kerioa 2-port usb hub20:34
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jean_bratregular micro_usb goes fine with N8 is it? without any filing?21:01
Sicelomight not feel tight though21:02
jean_brathmm ok21:03
Siceloand OTG will probably not work21:03
jean_bratOTG ?21:04
SiceloN8 equivalent of host-mode21:04
kerioOTG needs a grounded pin, i think21:05
jean_bratwhich is not present?21:05
keriowhy do you want to use a n8 anyway?21:06
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DocScrutinizer51jean_brat: (usb hostmode adapter) a nice DIY is: get a *cheap* usb 4 port hub, preferably with micro-usb upstream receptacle. Cut one of the downstrem ports (A-receptacle) datalines, cut upstream port, solder upstrem traces to chip to the isolated downstrem A port,21:22
DocScrutinizer51mark that port as "to N900"21:23
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DocScrutinizer51make sure VBUS (and GND ;D ) are common to all FOUR A receptacles and to hip trace to cut upstream port21:24
DocScrutinizer51on such a mod-o-fied usb hub you can coonect one host (N900) and 3 peripherals, all with pretty standard A-M->(micro)B-M cables21:28
DocScrutinizer51otherwise listen to other users here, seems they were mostly right21:28
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jean_brati have this21:35
jean_bratand i ordered s2 cable with female connector to micro usb cable21:35
jean_bratthis hub has micro usb port on the right also a power adopter pin21:36
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jean_bratand a cable micro usb male to USB male21:36
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jean_bratso what i have in mind is .. n900 -> s2 cable -> USB male cable to micro usb male-> to hub21:37
jean_bratand peripherals to other ports of the hub21:38
jean_bratDocScrutinizer, is this synthesise ?21:39
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DocScrutinizer06sounds correct21:47
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infobotDocScrutinizer51: thanks21:50
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jean_bratcool.. Thanks DocScrutinizer21:52
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jean_bratDocScrutinizer, few days ago i told you about the n900 keypad issue?22:05
jean_bratsome keys are not working on my keyboard?22:05
DocScrutinizer06UCOL4 iirc22:06
jean_bratwhats that?22:06
jean_bratyes it narrow down to some random keys.. its got nothing to do with row 422:06
DocScrutinizer06ooh, good22:07
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DocScrutinizer06means it's not (necessarily) twl4030 GAIA chip22:09
DocScrutinizer06could even be software then22:10
DocScrutinizer06or actually domesheet22:10
jean_brata y x c e c t k o:  a: including row 4 elements22:11
jean_brati actually try to shift the domesheet and try to press the failing buttons22:14
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jean_bratbut still no go22:14
jean_bratso its not the domesheet i feel22:14
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jean_bratbtw.. i found a diagram on an arabic site22:15
jean_bratif you could explain where the GPIO stuff you were talking about?22:15
jean_bratbtw what are the dotts  on 1st row 3rd collumn.. about the key patch?22:16
jean_bratthis has to be in contact with dome sheet?22:17
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jean_bratam off now . plz leave your reply22:22
jean_bratgood night22:22
jean_brator have a good day22:22
NIN101eh, there doesn't seem to be a non-pita way to make microb talk with socks proxies, right?22:22
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kerioNIN101: microb uses icd, doesn't it22:49
DocScrutinizer05jean_brat: please check
NIN101I am trying to set some gconf value now...22:49
DocScrutinizer05NIN101: how would you accomplish it for firefox?22:53
NIN101going into the options, but there isn't anything. about:config isn't convinient. Some plugins I usually use don't work on microb. So...22:53
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Estel_DocScrutinizer,  on one of my newly aquired N900's "z" key is ove3r-reactive - i.e. it registers, on even slightiest touch23:07
Estel_doesnt wait for actual clicking sound (which happens, if I press like normal)23:08
Estel_I'm perfectly sure that it doesn't register "z" when I press ny other button, but due to being so over-reactive, it's very hard to write "a" without a glance touch on z23:08
Estel_what could produce such outcome?23:08
Estel_I'm sure it's nothing about chip. It just need touching with feather to register "z" pressed :P23:09
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DocScrutinizer05worn domesheet23:11
Estel_GeneralAntilles,  ping23:11
Estel_this white thing on PCB?23:12
Estel_damn, I wonder if there are any chance to tear it and fix, or need to buy new overpriced one23:12
Estel_and take PITA to replace it23:12
DocScrutinizer05indeed a PITA23:13
DocScrutinizer05some user claimed to have *ironed* his crumpled domesheet and fixed it that way. Hard to believe23:13
Estel_any instructables about replacing, anywhere?23:13
Estel_lol, ironed?!23:13
Estel_could as good try hammering23:14
Woody14619Heat applied to it could in fact fix it.  Much like one can use heat to pop a dent in a car pannel.23:14
Woody14619Usually it's the transistion (cold/hot/cold) that causes it.  Makes the metal want to return to it's cast form.23:14
DocScrutinizer05anyway, it will need close inspection to decide what to do about it23:14
Estel_i.e. cutting through white thing? Or taking it apart somehow?23:15
DocScrutinizer05it's sticky-attached23:15
Estel_sticky as in easidly-removable, or sticky as it cant-unstick-it-without-tearing-to-pieces?23:15
DocScrutinizer05you probably can peel off *carefully*23:15
Estel_thanks godness z is close to beginning23:16
DocScrutinizer05heat will help, as usual with sticky tape23:16
Estel_well, nothing to lose when trying to heat via soldering iron, then stick ice to it :)23:16
DocScrutinizer05moderate heat23:16
Estel_after removing white thing23:16
Estel_yea. If not repairable, domesheet is to be trashed anyway23:16
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Estel_never tried to remove anything deeper than this white sticker23:17
DocScrutinizer05I expect some conductive pad "inside" dome of 'z' came off23:17
DocScrutinizer05nfc about actual build of domesheet "dark side" though, as I never removed any23:18
Estel_hm, I'll investigate it carefuly, and report back23:18
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DocScrutinizer05don't bend it too hard, it might deform23:19
Estel_Despite intensive work on DIY CNC machine (it's working, just tuning it up for precision) I'm going to have *much* more free time now :)23:19
Estel_and less grief :P23:19
Estel_will try...23:19
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user_why does swap fill up with shit, over time?23:37
Estel_it doesn't, it just get fragmented23:38
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ShadowJKare you talking abotu device getting slower and sdlower23:39
ShadowJKor the "Swap" value in top and whatever never going down?23:39
Estel_ShadowJK,  nice to see You. Some time ago, You told me about experiments with higher charging current, and risk of overheating. OTOH, DocScrutinizer is sure, that charging chip have thermal security, so there is no way to fry anything by messing via software23:41
Estel_any comments, etc? I would like to be sure before trying to mess myself ;)23:41
ShadowJKI didn't like the entire device getting warm23:41
Estel_same here23:42
Estel_the question is, when charging chip cut it off. If at 90 C degrees, it isn't fun anyway23:42
Estel_it's related to work currently done on replacing BME (we're almost ready to throw it out for good :) )23:43
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Estel_we as Community, no me as writing this :P23:43
ShadowJKAlso the datasheet for the likely cell inside bl-5j specifies 0.7C charging current, or about 950mA, which is what bme does23:44
Estel_thats not the problem in dual-cell setup. I'm worried about chip itself23:44
DocScrutinizer05the chip is rugged solid23:45
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ShadowJKAfter the cellmo vanishing syndromes I'm not that keen on generating lots of extra heat inside N900 :P23:46
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Estel_ShadowJK,  swap-related question:23:50
Estel_someone got idea of making two swaps on microSD, and instead ofg disabling and enabling them, he think about just enabling 2nd with higher priority...23:51
Estel_Then, when reswap.stat report hitting swap size limit, just giving higher priority to first one...23:51
Estel_well, it's going to still be fragmented, yep?23:51
Estel_I'm thinking about implementing it in a way that doesn't introduce waiting time due to data being moved between swaps23:52
Estel_maybe enabling 2nd with higher priority, adn disabling, then enabling again (with lower priority) 1st one, after some time (so it should have low amkmount of data on it)23:52
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: actually the heat generated by bq24150 should be not that much, regardless of charging current. It's a step down converter23:52
Estel_so it's "refreshed" and ready for getting higfher priority, after 2nd swap hits limit... and so goes on?23:52
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  ShadowJK tried with just 1050 and temperature change was quite high, as compared to 950 (mA)23:53
DocScrutinizer05most heat probably generated in cell itself23:53
Estel_why so?23:53
Estel_ok, I'm eager to try charging with 1200 mA on my dual-cell setting, it should be only 600 mA per cell. Of course, I'll monitor charging chip's reported temperature, closely23:54
Estel_and cut it out on any sign of something bad happening23:54
Woody14619Off for a bit...23:54
Estel_what should I edit in
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ShadowJKEstel_, yeah I used to do that on N8x0, which has different swap algorithm of course, but also on N900 it seems that it doesn't cut off all writes from the lower priority swap completely, which is sort of equivalent to fragmentation23:54
DocScrutinizer05Estel_: no need to monitor temperature of chip, it shuts down when temp is too high23:54
ShadowJKEstel_, at one point I had a script which created 64 swapfiles, and constantly rotated them.. each swapfile being small, so swapoff on it being fast.. didn't really work that well23:55
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DocScrutinizer0564 :-o23:57
ShadowJKmight've been 128, I forget23:58
Estel_thanks for answer, ShadowJK... BTW, those 64 or 128 swapfiles sounds nice :D23:58
DocScrutinizer05no, scary23:59
Estel_and for Any easy way to boost all current to 1.5 of their normal value, without destrying integrity and sensibility of charging script?23:59

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