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| chem|st | MohammadAG: it does hurt! everytime someone hits a football god kills a kitten! | 00:31 |
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| Venemo_N9 | who cares about football anyway? | 00:34 |
| chem|st | +1 | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you happen to have a scriptie to mirror the repos? | 00:36 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: nope as they never setup rsync as requested 2.6 years ago | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 00:38 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: but well could write one.. | 00:38 |
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| chem|st | want a mirror? | 00:38 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I think I still have the script itself on my server | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's that stuff from pali, but... | 00:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | so they're shutting down maemo.org, as I hear | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: found it in my ff history | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | http://pastebin.com/4GVQVZxL | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | http://pastebin.com/SWeDqgZJ | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | apply the 2nd to the ubuntu tarball of apt-mirror | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but sorry, what ubuntu tarball? | 00:40 |
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| MohammadAG | Venemo_N9: McDonalds and Calsberg's beer apparently | 00:41 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I think this should do: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apt-mirror/apt-mirror_0.4.8.orig.tar.gz | 00:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, changelog and TODO, no manpage, no readme, no friggin nuttin | 00:45 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: why not just provide a patched .deb? | 00:45 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 is temped to type apt-mirror_0.4.8.orig.tar.gz --help | 00:45 | |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: because I have none? | 00:45 |
| merlin1991 | all I have is the diff and list in my ff history and a patched script somewhere on my server :D | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and some background what that stuff is meant to do, while I don't | 00:46 |
| merlin1991 | apt-mirror is a perl script that mirrors an apt repo | 00:46 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: for apt-mirror cfg you have http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Mirror | 00:47 |
| merlin1991 | pali patched it to send the maemo specific headers | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sudo mirror-a-repo-for-me | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, he didn't | 00:47 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: erm maemo.nokia.com isn't maemo.org | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [jr@lagrange scripts]$ ./download.sh | 00:48 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: it mirros sdk tool nokia binaries and nokia ssu repos | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | --2012-06-17 23:15:31-- https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps///Release | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2012-06-17 23:15:31 FEHLER 403: Forbidden. | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ... :-/ | 00:48 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: will they be gone too? | 00:49 |
| merlin1991 | possibly I can't know | 00:49 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: untar that tar, apply the patch and read the first 50 lines of it | 00:49 |
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| merlin1991 | ffs | 00:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I did that on 3 or 4 of pali's tarball | 00:50 |
| Estel_ | preparations for doomsday after latest Nokia's exploits, eh? | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | veeery enlightening | 00:50 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: do that for the apt-mirror from debian + patch from pastebin i posted | 00:50 |
| merlin1991 | because that stuff actually works | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see above, yeah | 00:51 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: patch this patch apt-mirror? | 00:55 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 00:55 |
| chem|st | so I just install apt-mirror from repo and patch is as it is perl?! | 00:55 |
| merlin1991 | that could work too | 00:56 |
| merlin1991 | I only got the tarball because it does not apply cleanly to my distrib apt-mirror | 00:56 |
| chem|st | well I mirror repo.maemo.org an then I'll try | 00:56 |
| chem|st | Estel_: yes | 00:56 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: for maemo.org you could also use http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ | 00:56 |
| * chem|st wonders were his /ignore is gone.... | 00:57 | |
| chem|st | merlin1991:have you all or just fremantle? | 00:57 |
| merlin1991 | just fremantle | 00:58 |
| merlin1991 | but if you give me the proper deb and deb-src lines I can add the others aswell | 00:58 |
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| chem|st | just replace fremantle with diablo and the others... | 00:58 |
| chem|st | for extras it is diablo gregale chinook bora scirocco & mistral | 01:00 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: ^^^ | 01:00 |
| Venemo_N9 | huh | 01:01 |
| Venemo_N9 | how old are those | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in all that patches and tarball I fail to spot a single "maemo" | 01:01 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm wondering whether anyone's using them | 01:01 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: because it's a friggin generic mirror this apt repo tool | 01:01 |
| chem|st | have a look at http://repository.maemo.org/pool/ | 01:01 |
| merlin1991 | the patch adds nokia(tm) headers | 01:01 |
| merlin1991 | and you supply it with the list of repos from the first pastebin to get the stuff | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uhuh, suply like in? | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you know, there's no manpage | 01:02 |
| merlin1991 | drop them in a file and find the comman line parameter that is in the first few lines of the script | 01:02 |
| merlin1991 | there is a friggin embedded helptext there | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I have no friggin clue how this stuff is meant to be used | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | coooool | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where? | 01:03 |
| merlin1991 | everything from the beginning till =head1 CURRENT AUTHORS | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in which file? | 01:04 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: you patch the apt-mirror file and download the OTHER then you edit the path in OTHER and start 'apt-mirror $PATH_TO_OTHER' | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah | 01:04 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: and make path somewhere +60GB | 01:05 |
| chem|st | oh it is with sources... make it 120GB | 01:06 |
| chem|st | and with all versions.. are you guys crazy? | 01:06 |
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| merlin1991 | extras devel + extras + cssu + cssu testing (including sources) is 109 gb | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | path like "set base_path /var/spool/apt-mirror" ? | 01:06 |
| chem|st | who needs that obsolete stuff? | 01:06 |
| chem|st | yes | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | sdk + tools + all ssu repos is 19gb | 01:06 |
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| chem|st | 130GB even... | 01:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | gasp | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, RIP mirror-idea | 01:07 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: so you have everything but nokia? | 01:08 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: I have everything but pre fremantle stuff | 01:08 |
| merlin1991 | and I have to save the sb rootstraps and packages | 01:08 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: so why do I need to mirror it again? | 01:08 |
| merlin1991 | I have nfc | 01:09 |
| chem|st | do you have an rsync-mirror setup? | 01:09 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 01:09 |
| merlin1991 | and the nokia stuff isn't public because (C) | 01:09 |
| chem|st | would you mind or is this killing your traffic? | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who cares? | 01:09 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: my traffic would be fine, only $nokia lawyer scares me slightly | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my traffic doesn't matter, but my storage is waaay to low | 01:10 |
| chem|st | where there is no lawyer for maemo as there is no more staff in $maemo | 01:10 |
| Venemo_N9 | what did the lawyer say? | 01:11 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: got plenty so no worries | 01:11 |
| chem|st | Venemo_N9: he's drowned lately | 01:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anybody without any prior or current Nokia device here? no? so what's the issue with all of us downloading Nokia(C) stuff? | 01:12 |
| merlin1991 | you guys have no problem | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, if Nokia wouldn't want us to download it, they wouldn't offer it for download, no? | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | I on the other hand am distributing it | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's not what I asked for ;-) | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (though it seems there are some private copies of nok stuff on my server which I accidentally haven't set -r) | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course I will fix thjat as soon as Nokia complains | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for now I guess it's only been a prank somebody played on me, as I can't find any such stuff | 01:16 |
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| Venemo_N9 | nah, good night guys | 01:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but as mentioned before, only ~30GB free storage on that box | 01:16 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 should get a phatter server | 01:17 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a goddamn 130GB? incredible | 01:18 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: running... | 01:20 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: my folder looks somehow weird | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | ... | 01:21 |
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| merlin1991 | chem|st: you gotta be a bit more specific ;) | 01:21 |
| chem|st | i know | 01:21 |
| chem|st | Proceed indexes: [SSSSSSSSSSSSPsh: 1: cannot open downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/apps///.//Packages.gz: No such file | 01:22 |
| chem|st | apt-mirror: can't open index in proceed_index_gz at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 458. | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | same I got | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see above | 01:22 |
| chem|st | I have no clue about perl... | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though with pali's scripts | 01:22 |
| chem|st | +1 | 01:22 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: and you applied the patch? | 01:22 |
| chem|st | sure, and only two lines got rejected as they were the same | 01:23 |
| merlin1991 | hm | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.debian.net/175018/ | 01:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I think I spotted some magic in one of the scripts to extract ssl keys from somewhere | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which would suggest this script menat to run *on n900* | 01:30 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: found it, missing @args in 216 | 01:30 |
| chem|st | or some | 01:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | otoh last line of same script been > find /somewhere -name foobar -exec rm {} ; | 01:30 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: 157.8GB | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that doesn't work with messybox as we all know | 01:31 |
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| merlin1991 | chem|st: that includes what? | 01:33 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: that includes the mirror.list you posted | 01:34 |
| * merlin1991 wonders why he only has 19 gb | 01:35 | |
| chem|st | cause you already got 130 from maemo... | 01:35 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah | 01:36 |
| merlin1991 | because it has extras extras-testing and extras-devel | 01:36 |
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| merlin1991 | I only copied the ssu sdk and tools repos | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | EEEEK | 01:36 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: what? | 01:37 |
| merlin1991 | and to -devel + extras independent | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least testing might die unnoticed behind a hill | 01:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI there's hardly any relevant version in tetsing, no? | 01:38 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: ehrm for about a year only testing holds relevant versions^^ | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | umm | 01:38 |
| chem|st | as noone pushed anyhting | 01:39 |
| chem|st | till last week | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I somehow thought that's -devel | 01:39 |
| chem|st | devel is like killing my device if I upgrade from it | 01:39 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get upgrade is a bad idea anyway xD | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but the versions in devel and testing usually should be same | 01:40 |
| chem|st | 50% of my post-flashed-cssu_installed software is or was from testing | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if they're not, then I'd rather forget about testing than devel | 01:41 |
| chem|st | got like 30 upgrades if a set devel active in ham | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, anyway seems there's plenty of room for symlinks, hardlinks, and bzip2 | 01:41 |
| chem|st | yes | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's OTOH plenty of arguments why a decent server should have at least 1TB storage ;-D | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, this silly thing I got been planned as a bouncer, nuttin else | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for that the 50GB are plenty | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I again start to consider getting a decent one for hosting a few maemo related things | 01:45 |
| chem|st | I download it and will shove it up to uni-ftp if I get permission, at least for extras* | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good plan | 01:45 |
| chem|st | the admin just didn't want to download 400GB if only 10GB upload will happen ever | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the proprietary crap might already fit on those 30GB free | 01:46 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: 19GB prop. | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the proprietary crap is 16 gb | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: I checked again it's actually only 16 | 01:46 |
| chem|st | k | 01:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: hetzner? | 01:47 |
| chem|st | me | 01:48 |
| chem|st | ? | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your box | 01:48 |
| chem|st | no I got no hetzner server | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 01:48 |
| chem|st | one is amazon the other two are selfhosted | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SELFhosted? dang, with FDDI backbone? | 01:49 |
| chem|st | misleading sry | 01:50 |
| chem|st | hosted but my own hardware | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | colo | 01:50 |
| chem|st | one is down atm | 01:50 |
| chem|st | one is mining bitcoins 24/7 | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 01:50 |
| chem|st | I love powerflat! | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: so could you share the fixed script, so eventually I could run it when I got a server with more sotrage? | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or strip down the list to exclude the fat stuff | 01:55 |
| jacekowski | i have a mirror | 01:56 |
| jacekowski | for maemo repo | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, and anyody got an idea how to mirror wiki? | 01:56 |
| jacekowski | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/mirror/repository.maemo.org/ | 01:56 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer05: you can download whole DB | 01:56 |
| jacekowski | ahhh | 01:57 |
| jacekowski | that wiki | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | nfc how to mirror wiki properly | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | jacekowski: how? | 01:57 |
| jacekowski | wget -r? | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: it's getting a popular game now to get more mirrors | 01:57 |
| jacekowski | merlin1991: normal wikipedia publishes their db dumps daily | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | gotta contact nemain then :/ | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wget is no brilliant idea | 01:58 |
| jacekowski | http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you get all special pages, which adds up to a *100 explosion | 01:58 |
| jacekowski | iirc it's around 1TB in total | 01:59 |
| jacekowski | compressed | 01:59 |
| jacekowski | but plain text articles are under 10G compressed | 02:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: the wiki.maemo.org? | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn that shouldn't be more than 10GB, maybe 20 | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, with all edit history it might be some GB actually | 02:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Allpages&from=100Days plus http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Allpages&from=Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule/Day_3 should convert to a wget script easily | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and shouldn't be that much actually | 02:15 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer05: i was talking about wikipedia.org | 02:16 |
| jacekowski | can we ask X-Fade for db dumps? | 02:16 |
| jacekowski | ~x-fade | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | asking is for free ;-D | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw the above linked two pages don't contain the /user:* pages it seems | 02:18 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: patch brakes with adding @args in line 54 | 02:18 |
| chem|st | my system is now load 31 31 28... ram 16GB used swap 8GB used... is it need be wget? | 02:19 |
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| jacekowski | wget shouldn't be using that much | 02:20 |
| jacekowski | what are you running exactly | 02:20 |
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| chem|st | 90% wget in ram | 02:20 |
| chem|st | apt-mirror | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: does this script start a new background shell for each wget? ;-) | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (would probably run out of TCP ports eventually) | 02:21 |
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| chem|st | no but it is 3 wgets with --no-cache... | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's --no-cache? | 02:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | umm, that's server side | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while your server is the client on that wget | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a nd I wonder if that's actually needed (no-cache) | 02:24 |
| chem|st | cannot write the line as I have no more response | 02:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ?? o.O | 02:25 |
| chem|st | is rendered useless for 22h as it writes with 2MB/s to disk | 02:25 |
| chem|st | why? I have no clue | 02:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vserver? | 02:26 |
| chem|st | no proper 4core 16GB ram 4TB-hdd | 02:28 |
| chem|st | ok retry.... cannot be it can it! | 02:31 |
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| chem|st | just exited anything writing or reading from that disk *fingers-crossed* | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check smart | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and dmesg | 02:32 |
| jacekowski | tweak vfs | 02:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: how exactly? | 02:34 |
| jacekowski | http://pastebin.com/1tT3E79y | 02:34 |
| jacekowski | that's what i've got | 02:35 |
| jacekowski | total used free shared buffers cached | 02:35 |
| jacekowski | Mem: 24164 23936 227 0 0 18897 | 02:35 |
| jacekowski | -/+ buffers/cache: 5039 19125 | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this laptop/distri killing me with those random 10..100s lags on starting any app, particularly browser | 02:35 |
| jacekowski | get ssd | 02:36 |
| jacekowski | and windows | 02:36 |
| jacekowski | i never thought my laptop can start so fast untill i bought an ssd | 02:36 |
| jacekowski | a ssd* | 02:36 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: increase or decrease? | 02:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I think there's not even any read from HDD involved when those lags occur | 02:37 |
| jacekowski | chem|st: some are increased some are decreased | 02:37 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: I mean vfs | 02:37 |
| chem|st | i niced it for now... 40% ram usage | 02:37 |
| jacekowski | look at my paste | 02:38 |
| jacekowski | http://pastebin.com/1tT3E79y | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh you run that as root maybe? | 02:38 |
| jacekowski | first 4 are the important ones | 02:38 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer05: what? | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: ^^^ | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: apt-mirror | 02:38 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: did not want to run as user^^ | 02:39 |
| chem|st | lmc | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no excuse for a proper 4core box writing to a 4TB drive @ 2MB/s | 02:39 |
| jacekowski | i that's pretty fast | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 02:40 |
| jacekowski | 15krpm drive can deliver 1M/s for fully random writes | 02:40 |
| jacekowski | anyways, i've got my own apt-mirror setup | 02:41 |
| jacekowski | if anybody is interested | 02:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | definitely yes | 02:41 |
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| jacekowski | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/mirror/ | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, I thought about the setup, not the mirror :-D | 02:43 |
| jacekowski | ahm | 02:43 |
| jacekowski | well, | 02:43 |
| jacekowski | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046446/ | 02:43 |
| jacekowski | that's my setup file | 02:44 |
| jacekowski | apt-mirror /home/maemo/mirror.list | 02:44 |
| jacekowski | that's all it takes to run it | 02:44 |
| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: you're assuming 1 seek per rev | 02:44 |
| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: As I understad it, ost drives can't quite do that. | 02:44 |
| SpeedEvil | Actually - no drives can do that - it's physically impossible. | 02:45 |
| jacekowski | well, drives can seek pretty fast | 02:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Sure. | 02:45 |
| jacekowski | and home drives can deliver around 80 iops | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait what? you're talking about writing one random block ber rotation? | 02:45 |
| jacekowski | 15k drives can deliver over 2 of that | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | per* | 02:45 |
| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: Sure. | 02:45 |
| jacekowski | NCQ helps a bit as well | 02:45 |
| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: but that's not 250iops/s | 02:46 |
| SpeedEvil | And reordering helps a little, yes. | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang, on writing new data out of cache, reordering should help quite a lot | 02:47 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: something else was hogging it so it was 'random writes' | 02:47 |
| chem|st | 30MB/s | 02:47 |
| jacekowski | chem|st: tweaking vfs will help a lot | 02:47 |
| jacekowski | chem|st: so it waits bit more to write it | 02:47 |
| jacekowski | so it can order it a lot better | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with 16GB used up for buffers I'd think it already waits long enough | 02:48 |
| chem|st | so 100 isnt a good idea? | 02:48 |
| jacekowski | i'm talking about all those numbers | 02:49 |
| jacekowski | not only cache pressure | 02:49 |
| jacekowski | dirty_background_ratio dirty_expire_centisecs dirty_ratio dirty_writeback_centisecs | 02:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [18.06.2012 01:19:03] <chem|st> my system is now load 31 31 28... ram 16GB used swap 8GB used... is it need be wget? | 02:50 |
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| jacekowski | those 4 increased will help a lot | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | help a lot on what exactly? | 02:50 |
| jacekowski | with write performance on random writes | 02:50 |
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| jacekowski | however it will use more ram at the same time | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AHA | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see last quote | 02:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ram 16GB used | 02:51 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: ram is gone by then... | 02:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [18.06.2012 01:48:20] <DocScrutinizer05> with 16GB used up for buffers I'd think it already waits long enough | 02:51 |
| jacekowski | didn't notice the swap part | 02:51 |
| chem|st | atm it is 8GB ram and 200MB swap... without nice | 02:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | au contraire I think it swaps out too aggressive | 02:52 |
| chem|st | but I think it will take only a few more minutes^^ | 02:52 |
| chem|st | just a bit longer than before... | 02:52 |
| chem|st | 9GB ram | 02:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | used by? | 02:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | buffers, cache...? | 02:53 |
| chem|st | 50% by wget so7.x GB | 02:53 |
| chem|st | 53% | 02:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, wget can't use 50% of 9GB | 02:54 |
| chem|st | 54 | 02:54 |
| chem|st | 50%of 16GB | 02:54 |
| chem|st | 55% of 16GB | 02:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless you invoke one wget instance to download one or several files summing up to >>9GB | 02:55 |
| chem|st | seems like that is what it is doing | 02:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OMG | 02:55 |
| chem|st | wget per letter but max 3 at a time^^ | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 02:56 |
| chem|st | 61% by 2 of those 3 wgets | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, 3 wgets then | 02:56 |
| chem|st | per letter in /pool | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does PID change? | 02:56 |
| chem|st | no | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this job is a brainfsck | 02:57 |
| chem|st | and the lowset PID is the smallest in RAM | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't download 1M files with 150GB total size via one wget process | 02:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now I seem to see what was the *intention* of --no-cache | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just --no-cache doesn't do what the intention been | 02:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | my 2 cent: wget mallocs new RAM for each chunk of data downloaded, and tries to write in background. It however seems to never reuse the allocated RAM | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and never flushes | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so if your download is faster than your disk write, you run into trouble | 03:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | unless you force flushing every now and then, by invoking a new instance of wget for the next file | 03:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: does wget diagnostic output on terminal? | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if yes, a ^S might help | 03:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or you throttle your NIC somehow | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you refactor the job, so each file download has to finish writing to disk before next one gets started - I.E. invoke a new instance of wget for each file | 03:09 |
| chem|st | nthread to 2 and it writes with 8MB/s | 03:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? | 03:10 |
| chem|st | ok 5-8MB/s | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nthread? | 03:11 |
| chem|st | the apt-mirror list has a nthreads of 20 | 03:11 |
| chem|st | 68MB ram | 03:11 |
| chem|st | wit 2 instead of 20 | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you lost me | 03:12 |
| chem|st | mirror.list has a value of 20 threads I reduced it to 2 | 03:12 |
| chem|st | it will take ages... but it wont kill the machine | 03:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah there's nthreads | 03:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever that does | 03:13 |
| chem|st | it distributes the indexing into threads, seems like stacking | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 03:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc what's indexing here | 03:15 |
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| chem|st | fileindex | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought the problem is with wget | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eating all the RAM | 03:16 |
| chem|st | t is what apt-mirror is doing with it | 03:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | didn't you say wget using 50%...100% of RAM, and wget PID never changes? | 03:18 |
| chem|st | yes | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then that's your problem | 03:18 |
| chem|st | well that too | 03:18 |
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| chem|st | I need to get some rest | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's one (or 3) wget instances running from a pipe with list of files to download, and it stuffs all the download to malloc'd RAM | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and hands that RAM to write() | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now your aggressive swappiness or whatever kicks in and maybe swaps out wget to make space for disk buffers/cache | 03:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | which isn't exactly helping for thruput to HDD of the downloaded stuff in wget's memory | 03:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the job shouldn't run one wget instance form a command pipe but rather invoke a new wget instance for each file | 03:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since then wget would quit only after flushing all buffers to write to disk, and thus the download speed gets throttled naturally | 03:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to match the max HDD write speed | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this job is optimized for NIC thruput, assuming there can't ever be a bottleneck on the write-to-storage side | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when your download speed is higher than your write speed on HDD, it will fail | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which isn't exactly helping for thruput to HDD of the downloaded stuff in wget's memoryasically a flaw in wget itself | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops | 03:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically a flaw in wegt itself | 03:26 |
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| LaoLang_cool | How to access the file system of PC from n900? Can it be accessed by usb? | 08:45 |
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| dm8tbr | use g_usb (IIRC that's SDK mode) and some network file access protocol | 08:46 |
| dm8tbr | e.g. samba or nfs or ftp or ... | 08:46 |
| freemangordon | dm8tbr: hmm, g_ether? | 08:48 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, that one, still waking up | 08:48 |
| freemangordon | :) | 08:48 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, looks like too complicated to me, give up, thank you... | 08:50 |
| freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: just install Qt mobile hotspot and you're ready to go | 08:51 |
| LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, I don't understand, if I install Qt mobile hotspot, then I can access my windows fat32 file system in N900? | 08:55 |
| freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: what Qt mobile hotspot will give you is an easy way to establish USB connection between your n900 and your windows PC. Once established you can use your fravourite way to browse your PC from your n900. samba for example | 08:58 |
| LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, oh, thank you very much. Still complicated to me, I have no knowledge about samba, I thought I can access pc file system by something like mount -t vfat /dev/sd1 /mnt/fat after the usb got connected between pc and n900... | 09:01 |
| freemangordon | no way | 09:02 |
| LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, thanks, will learn it when I have time :) | 09:06 |
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| fruct | Hello all! Who can get help about app manager on n900? | 09:40 |
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| _PanzerSajt | fruct, what is your problem? | 09:41 |
| freemangordon | ~ask | 09:41 |
| infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 09:41 |
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| _PanzerSajt | freemangordon, hy :) | 09:44 |
| fruct | in first launch it load list applications, after that say "noting repositoryes" | 09:45 |
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| fruct | if open repo list, I got same | 09:52 |
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| Sc0rpius | well, too bad we don't speak romanian | 10:05 |
| Sc0rpius | otherwise we could help you | 10:05 |
| Sc0rpius | because I don't understand a thing you're saying. | 10:06 |
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| fruct | my basic language is russian | 10:08 |
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| brik | if you put just a tiny bit of effort in, that makes perfect sense | 10:15 |
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| Sc0rpius | then please translate | 10:17 |
| brik | he's saying he gets the message "no repositories" when launching the app manager | 10:18 |
| brik | fruct: can you add a new repository? | 10:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras | 10:21 |
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| iluminator105 | n900 player does not play files in order although all the files have number in front of it | 10:26 |
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| iluminator105 | why? | 10:27 |
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| iluminator105 | player does not sort correctly | 10:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | iluminator105: seems it works when you add whole album, it doesn't work when you add from "songs" | 10:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless you add one song at a time | 10:32 |
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| iluminator105 | hmm...its a whole folder full of mp3 in order but....but with repeating number like 01 01 01 01 | 10:33 |
| iluminator105 | thats strange maybe let me if windows can order it .... | 10:35 |
| iluminator105 | maybe there is no order, | 10:35 |
| iluminator105 | bbl thanks DocScrutinizer | 10:35 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:51 |
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| chem|st | Jaffa: morning | 13:15 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: ping | 13:17 |
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| MohammadAG | Just read the maemo.org being orphaned thread | 13:22 |
| Jaffa | Yeah | 13:22 |
| MohammadAG | From a user's point of view, why stick to Maemo/MeeGo | 13:23 |
| Jaffa | I just saw that, now going to be on MWKN's front-page | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | A user, not a hacker | 13:23 |
| Jaffa | Indeed | 13:23 |
| merlin1991 | yes 100% doomsday talk | 13:23 |
| Jaffa | The next platform I think I'm going to be the harbinger of death for is BB10 | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa: You forgot MT Toggles in the last mwkn ;p | 13:23 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I did. Latest thread URL? | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | While you're at there's that iOS 6 like plugin too :P | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84725 and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84912 | 13:24 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa: Same, wanted to attend a jam event but it's too expensive | 13:25 |
| MohammadAG | $900 for a round trip to Dubai which is the closest event | 13:26 |
| merlin1991 | jam event what for? | 13:26 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait | 13:26 |
| MohammadAG | 300 to Berlin but I need a visa which takes time, and the tickets are sold out | 13:26 |
| * merlin1991 read | 13:26 | |
| MohammadAG | BBJam | 13:26 |
| MohammadAG | In the meantime, I'll be wiping a lot of data off my HDD to make space for OS X | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | Wonder if scratch box works on os x | 13:29 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: No, it doesn't. Can run in a nice little VM, tho' | 13:29 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa: Hmm, I need a 1TB drive | 13:29 |
| MohammadAG | Wonder how much of a hassle moving recovery partitions is | 13:30 |
| MohammadAG | Fucking tethered jailbreak | 13:30 |
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| merlin1991 | hm, who's that: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223545&postcount=71 ? | 13:33 |
| MohammadAG | Argh I have no browser | 13:34 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991: Username? | 13:34 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Kate Alhoha | 13:35 |
| merlin1991 | Jaffa: rings no bell | 13:35 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: Big important developer in Maemo | 13:35 |
| merlin1991 | sounds legit :) | 13:35 |
| Jaffa | Alhola, sorry - http://maemo.org/profile/view/kate/ | 13:36 |
| Jaffa | merlin1991: She's been working on Maemo since the very beginning: http://newstyle.maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re--maemo-developers-porting_applications_for_maemo-001/?org_openpsa_qbpager_net_nemein_discussion_posts_page=1 is from 2005, for example | 13:37 |
| * SpeedEvil tries to remember 2005. | 13:39 | |
| X-Fade | Kate is working for Developer Nokia, maemo.org budgets got moved there when MeeGo Devices etc stopped to exist. | 13:39 |
| * SpeedEvil thinks of stone pillars with chimps in the background. | 13:39 | |
| merlin1991 | hey there X-Fade :) | 13:39 |
| jacekowski | X-Fade: there was a question asked yesterday | 13:40 |
| jacekowski | X-Fade: maemo wiki db dumps | 13:40 |
| X-Fade | jacekowski: Yes? | 13:41 |
| merlin1991 | X-Fade: the question was if / how we can obtain them in case of no more maemo.org | 13:42 |
| X-Fade | I am not sure if Special:Export works? | 13:43 |
| merlin1991 | X-Fade: it does one page at a time | 13:45 |
| merlin1991 | not exactly convenient to mirror the whole thing | 13:45 |
| merlin1991 | wait I stand corrected, it also takes a list of pages | 13:46 |
| merlin1991 | still not exactly convenient :) | 13:46 |
| X-Fade | merlin1991: Well it gives you a way to export things now. | 13:47 |
| X-Fade | I'm trying to get a more clear picture as to what is going to happen with the server infra etc. | 13:47 |
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| X-Fade | Of course I can take backups of the databases. | 13:48 |
| X-Fade | But I'd rather not offer for public download a database with all kinds of personal info. | 13:48 |
| merlin1991 | X-Fade: I suppose you could do a dump of pages only? | 13:49 |
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| X-Fade | So if there will be an alternative site setup, moving that database over is not a problem. But I'd like to be careful with private data. | 13:49 |
| merlin1991 | excluding all the user and other private data? | 13:49 |
| jacekowski | X-Fade: any chance of getting them | 13:52 |
| jacekowski | X-Fade: for mirrors and stuff | 13:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: we had exactly same request to backup wiki on openmoko recently. User lindi did it with some script and w/o help from sysadmin on the wiki server | 15:54 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: sure, but I'd prefer the sysadmin to help, saves the machine traffic and myself time | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: checking #openmoko-cdevel chanlog might yield some hits | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure thing | 15:55 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: for some reason it runs now without huge load... | 16:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, pong? | 18:56 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Website's back, so was wondering if you could help fill in the last few entries | 18:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, on it. | 18:57 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Ta | 18:58 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: I've been doing a few while at work | 18:58 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: n fact, I think only one's left | 18:58 |
| psychologe | Jaffa, hello | 18:59 |
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| Jaffa | psychologe: o/ | 19:01 |
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| * DocScrutinizer51 idly wonders if the official character defines the community (and thus it will implode), or if the community generates some sense of official thing in its own (in which case it will survive Nokia teardown) | 19:08 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, should be proofed and ready to go. | 19:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Lo gan | 19:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hey, DocScrutinizer51. | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | lo Jaffa | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | cig break | 19:10 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Ta | 19:13 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Published. Second article on the front page is a little light, but it's breaking news ;-) | 19:15 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer: tbh nokia's behaviour has got me more involved with the community, hopefully I'm not boarding a sinking ship! | 19:17 |
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| _freemangordon | zeq: did you succeed with setting up -thumb target in SB? | 19:22 |
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| zeq | yes I did :) | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | great | 19:22 |
| zeq | trying to build fennec 14 beta7 now | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | ... and when you're going to writh the article in wiki :P | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | *write | 19:23 |
| zeq | It won't be this evening, but I'll get it a go :) | 19:23 |
| zeq | s/get/give | 19:24 |
| freemangordon | great, thenks | 19:24 |
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| freemangordon | *thanks | 19:24 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I'm not sure whether to enable meegotouch in the fennec build, I'm guessing not | 19:25 |
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| zeq | I'm building the qt version | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | zeq: don't, noone knows how it will work on n900. And I am not sure libs are in place | 19:26 |
| zeq | it's been heavily optimized compared to the gtk version | 19:26 |
| zeq | that's what I thought | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | pure Qt will be ok AIUI | 19:27 |
| zeq | does the meego touch framework work at all on fremantle? | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | but even if it works, who cares, hildon is ok | 19:28 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: It's built okay with "toolchain-default" for "--with-thumb", "--with-thumb-interwork", "--with-fpu". With thumb*=yes, it currently fails at elf-hack. I could use --disable-elf-hack, or try toggling LDFLAGS... | 20:05 |
| zeq | What is the toolchain-default fpu option? | 20:06 |
| zeq | should I try =neon? | 20:06 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: one more question, should the thumb package be named/versioned differently? | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | zeq: there are ships that sink, and others that get converted to houseboats or museums when they don't sail the 7 seas anymore | 20:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm hoping for the pretty comfortable houseboat variant | 20:48 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: -neon would not work without -funsafe-math (or whetever was the option to turn vectoriser on) | 20:54 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK | 20:54 |
| freemangordon | zeq: default FPU option is vfp | 20:55 |
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| freemangordon | -softfp | 20:55 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: you should not enable "--with-thumb-interwork", it is not needed and produces slower and larger code | 21:00 |
| freemangordon | -mthumb is all you need | 21:00 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: mozilla/fennec has builtin support for NEON if enabled via "--with-fpu=neon" | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | aah, great, enable it then :D | 21:20 |
| zeq | starting again without interwork | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | did you build it succesfully? | 21:20 |
| zeq | also built-in thumb support | 21:20 |
| zeq | it had nearly finished :) | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 21:21 |
| zeq | what about the package name/version? | 21:22 |
| freemangordon | NFC, but it should reflect the harm version | 21:22 |
| zeq | I'm just using the upstream version, just wondered if the thumb version should somehow be identified as such | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | aaah, yeah | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | add -thumb0 athe the end of the package name in changelog | 21:24 |
| zeq | right, okay ... | 21:25 |
| freemangordon | and add Depends: ..., kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround in control for the binary .deb | 21:25 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: ^^^ | 21:25 |
| zeq | ok | 21:25 |
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| zeq | "fennec-thumb0", or after the version? | 21:27 |
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| freemangordon | gimme the whole name ib the changelog | 21:27 |
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| freemangordon | zeq:^^^ | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | *in | 21:28 |
| zeq | fennec (14.0b7) unstable; urgency=low | 21:28 |
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| freemangordon | fennec (14.0b7+0m5-thumb0) unstable; urgency=low | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: agree? ^^^ | 21:29 |
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| * freemangordon asks merlin1991 as he is a mighty maintainer after all, not an ordinary monkey like freemangordon is :P | 21:30 | |
| merlin1991 | why the 0m5, that's just nokias fancy way of saying it's a maemo package :D | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | because it is for maemo5 | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | but AFAIK we're not allowed to use it, so m5 | 21:31 |
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| merlin1991 | well in that case it should be someversion-maemx-thumbx | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | s/maemx/maemox/ | 21:32 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: well in that case it should be someversion-maemox-thumbx | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: we're not allowed to use maemo in package names, check on the wiki | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: not package name, verison number | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | it is the same | 21:33 |
| merlin1991 | oh nope | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | we're no allowed to use maemo in version string | 21:33 |
| merlin1991 | there's a huge difference | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | *not | 21:33 |
| merlin1991 | and we are even supposed to | 21:33 |
| merlin1991 | lemem find the entry | 21:33 |
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| merlin1991 | see http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging/Guidelines#The_version_of_a_package | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: seems you're correct | 21:34 |
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| zeq | conclusion? | 21:35 |
| merlin1991 | and a few lines above is the no to maemo in the package name :) | 21:35 |
| merlin1991 | someversion-maemoR-thumbR where R stands for an int revision | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | fennec (14.0b7maemo0-thumb0) unstable; urgency=low | 21:35 |
| merlin1991 | (starting with 0) | 21:35 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: according to wiki there should be no "-" before maemo | 21:36 |
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| zeq | thanks | 21:36 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: that - is just for style | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | makes no difference | 21:37 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: BTW is fenec buildable with the default SB toolchain? | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | zeq: you'd better listen to merlin1991 when it comes to packaging :D | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | though you are right, according to wiki it should be someversionmaemoR-thumbR | 21:37 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: any news from MohammadAG re new update that should happen ASAP | 21:38 |
| zeq | start again? :) | 21:38 |
| zeq | it's buildable, but slow | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | zeq: why not, after all your CPU will sit idling otherwise :P | 21:39 |
| zeq | I mean with the default toolchain | 21:39 |
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| zeq | NEON should help a lot | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | i mean why you want to build it with gcc 4.6.2, only for thumb? | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | or it is not buildable with 4.2.1 | 21:40 |
| zeq | ^ | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | but gcc 4.2.1 supports neon | 21:41 |
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| freemangordon | (it supports thumb too, but that's another story) | 21:41 |
| zeq | I'm hoping/expecting the JIT to work a lot better with a recent toolchain | 21:42 |
| zeq | with the old toolchain, it's been pretty unusable since v8 | 21:43 |
| zeq | we'll see | 21:43 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, if they don't support ThumbEE, there should not be much of a difference | 21:43 |
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| zeq | I'm not sure if it doesn't. I haven't checked. | 21:43 |
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| zeq | But these complication options put it very similar to the Android build | 21:44 |
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| freemangordon | zeq ThumbEE is a mistery, I suspect it is implemented | 21:45 |
| zeq | which AFAIK works well | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | even in android | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | *it is NOT | 21:45 |
| zeq | s/complication/compilation | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | nah, the word fitted perfectly well :D | 21:45 |
| zeq | :) | 21:46 |
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| Tofe | Hi ! | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | zeq: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223826&postcount=166 | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | :P | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | BTW you can use http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223814&postcount=164 as a sceleton | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | *skeleton | 21:49 |
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| zeq | bookmarked. | 21:53 |
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| piggz_ | does anyone know how to read the security code from a locked N9? or how to reset it without wiping? | 22:31 |
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| zeq | merlin1991: the gcc-4.6 compiler has this bug: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-11/msg02245.html | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | zeq: use -fno-strict-volatile-bitfields | 22:44 |
| zeq | already added it to CFLAGS | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | :) | 22:45 |
| zeq | I put CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} ..." in mozconfig. Is there a preferred form and/or place to put extra CFLAGS? | 22:47 |
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| FIQ | hm | 23:08 |
| FIQ | is the maximun speed that N900 can achieve down 384Kbit/s in 3G? | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | zeq: there should be CFLAGS in debian/rules | 23:08 |
| SpeedEvil | FIQ: No, I've had considerably more. | 23:09 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC 1.5M | 23:09 |
| SpeedEvil | I forget though | 23:09 |
| FIQ | because I wonder if my operator is (wrongly) throttling me (I should have more, and with tests w/others with same operator, they get more), as my current data plan suggest higher speeds (I'm fully aware that it's a theoretical max, but I seem to hit 384Kbit/s, and never more than that, but not often less) | 23:09 |
| FIQ | and N900 suggests that I'm on 3.5G, but I still cannot get more | 23:10 |
| FIQ | Interesting enough, I get more *up* than down | 23:10 |
| FIQ | (~1Mbit) | 23:11 |
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| MrPingu | estel_, ping | 23:21 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: it's been a *very* long time since I last did any Debian packaging. | 23:25 |
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| Estel_ | MrPingu, pong | 23:42 |
| ShadowJK | I routinely do about 8Mbit/s on N900 3g hspa | 23:45 |
| Estel_ | ShadowJK, have You tried testing hostmode max speed? | 23:46 |
| Estel_ | reportedly, it's only ~32 Mbit/s max | 23:46 |
| Estel_ | no idea why | 23:46 |
| Estel_ | (as client, real high speed is no problem) | 23:47 |
| ShadowJK | I have not | 23:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Estel_: I would at this point add test results, but it'd mean getting out of bed. | 23:49 |
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| Estel_ | SpeedEvil, :) | 23:53 |
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