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| Macer | it seems to be acting better tho | 03:13 |
| Macer | the sim seems to last longer | 03:13 |
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| RST38h | Moo all | 10:54 |
| Termana | RST38h, morning | 10:55 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | How to configure xterm to use another shell? busybox is too suck on the supporting of multibyte charactor | 11:08 |
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| wesk77 | LaoLang_cool_: when you install the bash package you can set it to default with bash-setup | 11:17 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | wesk77: hmm, I will try, thank you | 11:33 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | wesk77: I can't find the cmd bash-setup... | 11:34 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | apt-get install bash | 11:34 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | When I run chsh, and try to set /bin/bash, it says /bin/bash is an invalid shell. | 11:37 |
| wesk77 | is the bin actually at /bin/bash ? there're 3 bash packages, with version 2, 3 and 4. bash4 provides the bin at /bin/bash4, maybe it's the same with version 2, i don't know. look through your /bin | 11:40 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | wesk77: It's there at /bin/bash, now I get it work by modifying the string at /etc/passwd for user | 11:41 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | what's the difference among bash, bash3, and bash4? | 11:42 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | Too confused by the name | 11:42 |
| wesk77 | well, there's always stuff added to be used in bash scripts | 11:43 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | oh, there're four versoin, bash, bash2, bash3, and bash4!.... | 11:44 |
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| wesk77 | really? i only see bash, bash3 and bash4 | 11:44 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | Which one is recommended? http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bproperty%5D=name&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bvalue%5D=bash&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bproperty%5D=title&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bvalue%5D=same | 11:45 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | http://maemo.org/packages/view/bash2/ | 11:45 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | Diablo? Maybe it's for N850.. | 11:45 |
| wesk77 | i use bash3 on the n900 and bash4 on my desktop | 11:46 |
| LaoLang_cool_ | wesk77: what's the difference among them? | 11:46 |
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| wesk77 | http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/CHANGES ;) | 11:48 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | wow... | 11:51 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | for an interactive shell, I think bash is enough :) | 11:51 |
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| wesk77 | probably yes, heh | 11:52 |
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| LaoLang_cool_ | I installed busybox-power finally :) | 12:14 |
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| narcos | Hi all. | 13:28 |
| narcos | I'm following the guide http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71069 to try compile a new power-kernel (I require bridging support) | 13:30 |
| narcos | I got to Step 2 "sb-conf setup MaemoKernel" last night, but after logging out and logging back in it seems I can't find packages - e.g. "fakeroot apt-get install kernel-power-source" returns no package found, despite having adding the repos to sources.list previously | 13:31 |
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| narcos | I'd appreciate any advise on what I'm doing wrong - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ipPvACCF | 13:39 |
| narcos | I seem to be stuck in a loop resolving depedencies | 13:39 |
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| narcos | I try install sources with "fakeroot apt-get install kernel-power-source" but get told there are dependency issues and I should run "apt-get -f install", but that gives an error about arch, so I add in the arch type "fakeroot apt-get -o APT::Architecture=armel -f install", and try to install kernel sources again, but have the same dependency issue | 13:41 |
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| chem|st_ | even switched off device refuses to export MyDocs to usb (switched off I do not get the SD card exported as well)... | 14:13 |
| chem|st_ | any ideas? | 14:13 |
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| Raimu | Is there a quick way to make a n900 to sound out terminal bells? | 16:21 |
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| SpeedEvil | play-sound /usr/share/sounds/game-chess_checkmate.wav | 16:23 |
| SpeedEvil | - I don't know of a way to do what you want though | 16:23 |
| Raimu | Well, thanks for the idea, though. | 16:23 |
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| villager | narcos: you've probably seriously broken your scratchbox, perhaps you've used "-o APT::Architecture" or something, you should never do that | 17:15 |
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| villager | narcos: scratchbox has its own way of switching between architectures (sb-menu, for example), don't try other ways, or things *will* break | 17:18 |
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| villager | narcos: though I suppose if you *have* to work around a broken rootstrap or something, then you also need the "-o APT::Architecture" in the "install kernel-power-source" step, I think | 17:25 |
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| BCMM | is there any way to turn the n900's screen off, but continue to use VNC? (usually, when power saving kicks in, the VNC screen goes black) | 18:27 |
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| narcos | villager: Thanks for the tips. Could you recommend a tutorial that would guide me through compiling a power kernel? | 18:37 |
| narcos | (or anyone else) | 18:37 |
| narcos | villager: I was following http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71069, which links to http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Maemo_5_SDK_installation_for_beginners for the env setup | 18:38 |
| narcos | My end goal is to have bridge support in the power-kernel | 18:38 |
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| villager | narcos: well I haven't tried that particular scratchbox configuration, just the regular sdk configurations | 18:41 |
| villager | narcos: but I assumed that it would be similar to the standard armel target | 18:42 |
| villager | narcos: the rootstrap installation succeeded, right? | 18:42 |
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| vdv | somebody knows where i can get gtkhtml version > 4.0 ? | 19:51 |
| vdv | for maemo5 | 19:51 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile:Samsung TVs Can Be Hacked Into Endless Restart Loop | 20:26 |
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| freemangordon | ping Pali | 21:04 |
| vdv | anyone from modest cssu supporters here? how you built it? | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | in SB | 21:06 |
| vdv | how it finds tinymail? | 21:07 |
| vdv | repository doesn't contain sources http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commits/master | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | install it from CSSU repo | 21:07 |
| Pali | pong, freemangordon | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | hi Pali | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | u-boot -110 errors seems gone :) | 21:08 |
| Pali | kernel or u-boot problem/patch ? | 21:09 |
| vdv | freemangordon, i want get it compiled | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | well, both. We already know that meego/nemo kernels need dto patch | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | vdv, it is on gitorious | 21:09 |
| vdv | freemangordon, tinymail? | 21:10 |
| Pali | I read that problem is not only on n900, but also on beagle (and other TI) boards | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali, but there is some other bug triggered by enabling eMMC in u-boot | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | those are different problems | 21:10 |
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| freemangordon | BB problem is -110 from the card you are booting from | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | n900 problem is -110 wfrom BOTH cards :) | 21:11 |
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| freemangordon | -110 from external card is solved by applying DTO=14 patch | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | and some other patches | 21:11 |
| Pali | then patches should go to upstream | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | but on n900 we sill have mmcblk1 (eMMC) -110, which is solved (as POC) by not enabling eMMC in u-boot | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | Pali, I think they are upstream | 21:12 |
| Pali | ok | 21:12 |
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| freemangordon | wel, now for u-boot | 21:12 |
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| freemangordon | I want your help on - how to disable eMMC(RES_VAUX3,RES_VSIM,RES_VMMC1) just before booting kernel | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | ? | 21:13 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, in u-boot rx51.c is function after /* enable i2c access po powerbus */ | 21:14 |
| Pali | twl4030_i2c_write_u8 | 21:14 |
| Pali | maybe reverting params for that function after all twl4030_regulator_set_mode calls can fix problem | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | I searched through u-boot code, but cannot find any way to execute board specific code before booting the kernl | 21:14 |
| Pali | I will try to find some way | 21:15 |
| freemangordon | Pali, my idea is soething different | 21:15 |
| Pali | arch/arm/lib/bootm.c | 21:15 |
| freemangordon | lets leave that code as it is, just find the way to disable tose just before booting kernel | 21:16 |
| Pali | funcion bootm_linux_fdt | 21:16 |
| Pali | this is called when booting kernel | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | let me check | 21:16 |
| Pali | and also do_bootm_linux | 21:17 |
| Pali | not funcion bootm_linux_fdt but do_bootm_linux | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | most probably announce_and_cleanup | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | or even cleanup_before_linux | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | anyway, i would propose another "weak" function here, something called "misc_init_r" | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | oops, misc_fini_r | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | again, with weak linkage (the same as misc_init_r) | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | so we can disable/cleanup whatever we need just before boot | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | what do you think? | 21:20 |
| Pali | better ask on #u-boot channel | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | me? | 21:21 |
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| freemangordon | :) | 21:21 |
| Pali | I do not want to add something which will be rejected on upstream | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | why do you think it will be rejected, it is just another amty function | 21:21 |
| Pali | I rewritten some parts of patch series due to upstreaming problems | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | vdv, here http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/tinymail | 21:21 |
| Pali | maybe there is some function which is called before booting | 21:22 |
| freemangordon | maybe, but I just cannot find it | 21:22 |
| vdv | freemangordon, oh thanks | 21:22 |
| freemangordon | ok, lets move to #u-boot | 21:22 |
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| vdv | freemangordon, what's the difference with https://gitorious.org/~naikel/community-ssu/naikel-tinymail-cssu ? | 21:23 |
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| freemangordon | vdv, NFC | 21:23 |
| vdv | ah, it's just personal clone von naikel | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | Pali, anyone on u-boot I should try to contact? | 21:24 |
| Pali | no idea about correct person | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:24 |
| vdv | freemangordon, do you know maybe, whether i should build with "./autogen.sh --with-platform=maemo --with-toolkit=hildon2" ? | 21:26 |
| vdv | both tinymail and modest | 21:27 |
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| freemangordon | vdv, look at debian/riles | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | but the best option is dpkg-buildpackage | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | vdv, out of curiosity, what are you trying to achieve | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | fix some bug or what? | 21:28 |
| vdv | fist, understand the code | 21:29 |
| vdv | and then try to make it better :) | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | WOW | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | good luck | 21:36 |
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| freemangordon | Pali, something to add on #u-boot? | 21:37 |
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| jatt | my battery discharges very fast makes sense to buy a new one? | 21:37 |
| Pali | not flash but eMMC | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | whatever | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | correct me on #u-boot :P | 21:38 |
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| vdv | which command starts app inside of xephyr? | 21:44 |
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| vdv | af-sb-init.sh? | 21:48 |
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| vdv | jatt, i'd rather buy a new device | 21:56 |
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| narcos | Hi all. I have a modified N900 which comes with powerkernel 40. I want to have bridge support in the kernel, so I can use tools like brctl | 22:09 |
| narcos | I notice (i) that /proc/modules exists, so the kernel has module support, and (ii) a line in this file "bridgedriver 156908 1 - Live 0xbf204000" <- do you know if this is what I'm looking for, or what this module is for, or how I can figure out what it's for? | 22:10 |
| narcos | Ah, I've learned that the contents of that file are currently loaded modules (akin to lsmod). | 22:16 |
| narcos | So, that bridgedriver module is already loadeda | 22:16 |
| narcos | *loaded | 22:16 |
| narcos | and given that brctl doesn't work, I assume that is not the bridge module I want | 22:16 |
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| TTilus | ive got x2x working between n900 and my desktop and cursor visible | 22:22 |
| TTilus | x clipboard does not seem to work | 22:22 |
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| TTilus | how do i copy/paste text between n900 and desktop? | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | vdv: af-sb-init start startes the whole ui simulation | 22:36 |
| merlin1991 | to just start and app in xephyr "export DISPLAY=:2" and run it | 22:36 |
| merlin1991 | s/and/an/ | 22:36 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: to just start an app in xephyr "export DISPLAY=:2" and run it | 22:36 |
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| vdv | merlin1991, thanks | 23:05 |
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| freemangordon | Pali, after all it seems we should fix the kernels :D. Or not, it is really much easier to do a patch in debian/patches with the hook in question, and to disable eMMC before boot | 23:20 |
| Pali | freemangordon, do you have kernel patches which fix all problems? | 23:24 |
| Pali | if no then some maemo u-boot patches will be needed | 23:24 |
| Pali | but it is not too easy to maintain u-boot patches out of tree | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | Pali, I don't have a patch for "eMMC" problem. I will try to find one when have a time | 23:25 |
| Pali | ok | 23:25 |
| Pali | maybe comparing omap hs mmc driver in 2.6.28 and 2.6.37+ will help | 23:26 |
| Pali | or looking into twl4030 regulator driver | 23:26 |
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| MrPingu | hello | 23:51 |
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| MrPingu | Does dbus-monitor not show all dbus events? I mean I don't see keyboard open/close showing up in "dbus-monitor" | 23:53 |
| MrPingu | I think it should show up as in dbus-scripts it's listed as event... | 23:53 |
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| jacekowski | some are system events some are user events | 23:59 |
| MrPingu | Ah I see, how to see "them" all? | 23:59 |
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