| DavidTalmage_ | I want to know why QtCreator or Qmake puts the wrong path in the Makefile. | 00:00 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | I must be telling it something wrong. | 00:00 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer, max power level of fmtx chip is really 120 | 00:01 |
| merlin1991 | DavidTalmage_: what do you get in the makefile and what should it be? | 00:01 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer, read page 20 at http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN332.pdf | 00:02 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | merlin1991, I may have to take back what I said about the makefile. | 00:04 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | Looking at it to be sure... | 00:04 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | merlin1991, what I wrote originally is true. | 00:10 |
| DavidTalmage_ | There's a Makefile in build-directory/libnetfilterqueue-20110906/src. | 00:10 |
| DavidTalmage_ | I figured it out. | 00:11 |
| DavidTalmage_ | It's stupid configure trick. The Makefile is looking in ${prefix}/include. | 00:12 |
| DavidTalmage_ | What it's looking for hasn't been installed there. | 00:12 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | Thanks for helping me focus on the solution! | 00:13 |
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| Pali | I'm wizard! I can vote for packages in maemo.org package interface more times :-) See: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/kernel-power/2.6.28-10power50/ | 08:51 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer, what do you think about my new power? :D | 08:52 |
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| Pali | or only other bug in maemo package interface... | 08:53 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, fmtx power_level is limited to 120 in kernel, because that is the maximum value the chip itself accepts, it is a HW limit, not a SW one | 09:35 |
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| ToJa92 | hey, anybody know how to open mail for exchange via the terminal? I'd like to remove the account I setup, but the icon for some reason disappeared.. Don't know if it's related to the fact I installed syncevolution(which seems strange). Clicking the MfE applet in control panel only opens the new account wizard. | 10:28 |
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| jacekowski | ToJa92: it's in settings | 10:48 |
| jacekowski | ToJa92: accounts | 10:48 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/11/office_for_symbian/ <-- hah | 10:49 |
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| doc|home | they're a bit late to the party with that, aren't they? | 10:51 |
| jacekowski | not really | 10:51 |
| jacekowski | they still have huge marketshare | 10:51 |
| jacekowski | symbian is still most popular OS | 10:52 |
| ToJa92 | jacekowski: Thanks, but the MfE applet in the control panel seems to have forgotten about it and wants me to create a new account | 10:52 |
| jacekowski | ToJa92: accounts, not MfE | 10:52 |
| jacekowski | you should be able to delete it there | 10:52 |
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| ToJa92 | don't see any account applet, I'm running latest stable CSSU if that makes a difference. There's just sharing accounts and voip/im accounts | 10:54 |
| doc|home | jacekowski: for now, but isn't it on the way out? | 10:57 |
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| ToJa92 | jacekowski: "Solved" it by clearing user data, I reflashed yesterday anyway so no big deal | 11:33 |
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| * RST38h yawns | 11:38 | |
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| StyXman | RST38h: please don't, it's contagious :) | 11:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Pali: yes, you're obviously right, it says 120 is max, but it doesn't mention what happens when you use higher values | 12:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | Pali: I agree a sane kerneldriver shall handle that. Hackers however might want to test what happens at 130, 256, ... | 12:03 |
| * DocScrutinizer idly woders if there's any sane setting in UI for compressor, limiter, etc | 12:04 | |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer, you can patch kernel driver to remove 120 limit and try what happends | 12:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can :-D | 12:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can do even more elementary things, like direct control via i2cset ;-D | 12:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | earthquake near Sumatra? | 12:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 2004-tsunami regions got tsunami alarm | 13:04 |
| StyXman | dang | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | spread the warning! | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I mean, you might know of channels to alarm people that otherwise would miss the warning. Of course there's no use to spam official channels that definitely already are aware | 13:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | magnitude 8.7 | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | 500km west of Banda Aceh | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | tsunami alarm regions: Indonesien, Australien, Kenia, Südafrika, Iran, Singapur. | 13:16 |
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| LinuxCode | DocScrutinizer, no point warning Australians, they are all in the pub | 13:34 |
| LinuxCode | ;-p | 13:34 |
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| LinuxCode | they will just have to build rafts out of pint glasses | 13:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | some of them might look at their xchat on N900 while sipping their beer | 13:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | honestly I don't hope a warning via IRC is reaching anybody who needs to start running, it may reach somebody who knows of such a person though and who might decide to give that person a call or whatever | 13:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | "No tsunami" says Horst Letz, German consultant of Indonesian tsunami warning center | 14:00 |
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| Vib3 | yo | 14:03 |
| Vib3 | hmmm nmap doesn't work with 3G | 14:03 |
| Vib3 | says: route_dst_netlink: can't find interface "gprs0" | 14:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | tsunami warning cancelled | 14:05 |
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| Sicelo | Vib3: not necessarily 3G.. new nmap has that problem. use the one just before that | 14:06 |
| Sicelo | 5.50-2 | 14:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: ooh? any pointer to details? | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | hmm, first is that i've used it and got the same error.. | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | i think there's a site too .. lemme see | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | http://zitstif.no-ip.org/?tag=n900-nmap-fix | 14:38 |
| Sicelo | well, the guy uses apt-get upgrade, which is wrong i know.. | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | aftershock quake 8.1, tsunami warning still extended by 2 hours | 14:43 |
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| Sicelo | actually.. let me 'contribute' by submitting some bug report.. or let Vib3 do so :/ | 14:45 |
| Sicelo | ah, it's already known, http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=41365 , psycho_oreos | 14:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: sorry, I can't make a story out of all that | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | is it a bug in new version of nmap for fremantle? or a bug in fremantel or powerkernel or whatever else? or no bug at all? and what are the recommendations to cope with the problem? | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | is anybody taking care about all that? | 14:53 |
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| Vib3 | its nmap 5.59BETA1 | 14:59 |
| Vib3 | dunno wheres the problem | 14:59 |
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| Vib3 | ohh gives same with wlan0 | 15:00 |
| Vib3 | kernel 2.6.28.10-power50 here | 15:01 |
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| Sicelo | looks like the but is with nmap for fremantle. no progress seems to have been made. only suggestion is to revert | 15:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lemme check | 15:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nmap 5.59BETA1 promoted to testing 2011-07-13 by N. Reynolds | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | 5.50 in stable | 15:10 |
| Vib3 | that script works fine and nmap 5.50-2 also works fine | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: where's the "suggestion to revert"? | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | Vib3: which script? | 15:12 |
| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: that what Sicelo linked | 15:12 |
| Vib3 | maybe Sicelo means this -> "Firstly, the newest beta version of nmap (5.59BETA1_armel) appears to be buggy enough to the point where it’s almost unusable." | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, that no-ip.org stuff? | 15:12 |
| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: http://zitstif.no-ip.org/?tag=n900-nmap-fix | 15:12 |
| Vib3 | yea | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nathan Reynolds | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | Thanks Christos, I'm aware of the issue and working to address it with the next build of the 5.59 beta. You were correct to suggest using the version in Extras in the meantime, thank you! | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2011-07-16 23:59 UTC | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/nmap/5.59BETA1/ | 15:15 |
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| Vib3 | k, so using 5.50 | 15:17 |
| Sicelo | yeah.. works like a charm ;) | 15:17 |
| Vib3 | yeap | 15:17 |
| Vib3 | damn that didn't see that by default, app manager just offered that unstable 5.59beta | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y<< bwahahaha | 15:18 |
| Sicelo | yeah.. i wonder why this guy is doing that | 15:19 |
| Vib3 | maybe he wants to upgrade things ;p | 15:20 |
| Sicelo | Vib3: i didn't use the script .. (i don't quite truest everything else the guy is doing) | 15:20 |
| Vib3 | I did :p | 15:21 |
| Vib3 | but now back to thesis, bye -> | 15:22 |
| psycho_oreos | Sicelo, hmm? you've highlighted me | 15:25 |
| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, been trying to somehow avert that buggy autodisconnect issue, so far still losing, may have a go at it again on the weekend before completely giving up and setting it up from scratch. I'd hate to really do it from a clean slate :) | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 15:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | you *should* be able to analyze the autodisconnect pkg (and possibly prev version pkgs as well), see what files get installed and what postinstall scripts run and what they do, and revert all this. If you need "clean" genuine files for some reverting, just ask me | 15:29 |
| Sicelo | psycho_oreos: just a 'side effect' .. we were talking about nmap problems, and you made a nice post on tmo, that helps :) | 15:29 |
| psycho_oreos | and that issue is extremely bad if I'm not mistaken. I've left the bug as it was (when it constantly asked for a network to connect to) even when the device is off, somehow the complete battery drain (even though the device was never turned on for almost 2 weeks) seemed really fatal | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite possible | 15:30 |
| psycho_oreos | *nods* there's that triggers which is called within the setting up/removal of autodisconnect. I think I'll have a look at those after giving one more try in a different attempt | 15:30 |
| psycho_oreos | Sicelo, ahh nw, someone found that out before me though. I think it was recorded on bugs.maemo.org iinm when I saw the fix first or something.. anyhow someone found the fix and I just sorta relayed it. Never bothered upgrading my copy of nmap to the latest since then even though it kept telling me there's an update available for it | 15:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the reason to disable extras-devel/testing immediately after installation of the pkg you were interested in | 15:33 |
| psycho_oreos | as for that offtopic news on tsunami hitting .au = unlikely :) ---> http://www.bom.gov.au/tsunami/national.shtml | 15:34 |
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| psycho_oreos | pretty much but at the same time being a dare devil (for the right and wrong reasons) does sorta work its way out | 15:34 |
| teotwaki | if there is a tsunami threat to australia | 15:35 |
| teotwaki | I'm pretty sure the aussies would simply throw a bunch of dropbears right into the ocean, make that wave go back where it came from. | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | wow, that script at http://zitstif.no-ip.org/?tag=n900-nmap-fix is epic :-P | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | the cmdline options analyzing with egrep alone is a highlight | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | update.sh -extranonormalstuffwtf?? will work just like update.sh normal | 15:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's exactly one useful line in that script: `` apt-get install nmap=5.50-2 libaprutil1=1.3.9-2 libapr1=1.4.2-1 --force-yes -'' (though I friggin wonder what the ``-'' at the end is for) | 15:40 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: it ends with -y not - | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: here I don't see that | 15:51 |
| merlin1991 | here I have a scrollbar at the bottom | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | oooh | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | not in konqueror | 15:51 |
| merlin1991 | browser madness ftw | 15:52 |
| merlin1991 | the full line actually is apt-get install nmap=5.50-2 libaprutil1=1.3.9-2 libapr1=1.4.2-1 --force-yes -y; | 15:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so this guy sucks not only in shellscript writing and in apt and maemo, but also in html ;-P | 15:52 |
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| Sicelo | :P | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah nope, there it is: a scrollbar - I'm just blinded by that webpage design | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed, even ``-y;'', but now that I've scrolled, I can't highlight the line anymore to c&p it here ;-P | 15:54 |
| * Sicelo congratulates himself for getting DocScrutinizer to click a random link ;) | 15:54 | |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed, Sicelo | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I'm afk now. Get some other RL crap 'sorted' | 15:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | "tsunami aftershock not causing any tsunami either" says German TV ZDF correspondent Peter Kunz | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/tsunami/earthquake/. | 16:04 |
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| Macer | anybody here have a nas? like a synology or qnap? | 16:14 |
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| Raimu | Whoo, Nokia shares plummeted. | 16:16 |
| Macer | haven't they for a while now? :) | 16:16 |
| Macer | heh | 16:16 |
| Macer | i figured they'd be bankrupt by now | 16:16 |
| Macer | rightfully so | 16:16 |
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| Macer | the dow has been brutal | 16:18 |
| Macer | guess they could only prop it up for so long | 16:18 |
| Macer | fundamentals have seriously gone out the window of late | 16:18 |
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| SpeedEvil | :/ | 16:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Meltmi will save them! | 16:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | melt me or meltemi? | 16:23 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wonders idly what all the "maemo.org funding is set for this year at least" will be worth when a serious share shock hits whole company | 16:24 | |
| SpeedEvil | Raided for 'core buisness activities' - they're opening up a boot factory. | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | tires | 16:25 |
| Raimu | Back to basics. | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | or maybe rubber dinghy | 16:26 |
| Veggen | mmrf. | 16:26 |
| Veggen | exchange svarer ikke. | 16:27 |
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| lolcat | What company owns maemo.org? | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nokia | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache policy nmap | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | Installed: (none) | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | Candidate: 5.59BETA1 | 16:41 |
| lolcat | They still exist? | 16:41 |
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| lolcat | You'd think elop was hung in the finnish forests for his betrayal | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | so wwhich apt-* cmd would I execute, which line add to which config file, to disallow installation of any nmap- 5.59BETA1, no matter from which source? | 16:42 |
| Sicelo | pinning, i suppose :/ | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | heard there's such a thing like pinning, NFC about apt | 16:44 |
| * Sicelo just used apt-get install nmap=<version> though | 16:44 | |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | last resort | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | deprecating the 59BETA preferred | 16:45 |
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| javispedro | man, I remember reading that Texrat had bought nokia shares recently =) | 16:51 |
| Termana | ouch | 16:53 |
| Sicelo | heh, serious? | 16:54 |
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| javispedro | dunno | 16:54 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/11/noka_lumia_bug/ <-- hahahaha | 17:27 |
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| r00t|home | ruskie: useless article, where's the details? | 17:42 |
| ruskie | and some people miss the point | 17:42 |
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| javispedro | http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/04/11/putting-people-first/ | 17:52 |
| javispedro | software issue seemingly, not hardware | 17:54 |
| javispedro | so no idea why they'd do this | 17:54 |
| javispedro | (also, they're sending "at&t credit", so that probably costs nokia next to 0) | 17:54 |
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| SpeedEvil | hmm | 17:57 |
| SpeedEvil | does this mean 'you can buy windows apps with this, but little else' ? | 17:58 |
| javispedro | and probably send sms =) | 18:01 |
| javispedro | (extra rate sms) | 18:02 |
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| Macer | http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/ | 20:36 |
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| luke-jr | Macer: "around $20 a month without data caps" | 21:03 |
| luke-jr | lies | 21:03 |
| Macer | lol | 21:03 |
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| Macer | yeah that's what i thought too | 21:03 |
| Macer | but who knows.. if they get the volume they may be able to pull it off | 21:03 |
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| luke-jr | no such thing as "without data caps" | 21:03 |
| Macer | given that most drug dealers and child porn exchangers don't use much data | 21:04 |
| Macer | i can see the drug dealers not... but the child porn guys would max their network out | 21:04 |
| Macer | yeah heh... you're right there | 21:04 |
| Macer | but then again they're building the infrastructure from the ground up without any other networking burdens | 21:05 |
| Macer | like phone lines and dsl | 21:05 |
| Macer | or tv | 21:05 |
| Macer | att for instance uses its data lines for cell phones... house phones.... and dsl.. maybe even more things | 21:05 |
| Macer | well.. it's network | 21:05 |
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| Macer | comcast uses their network for everthing as well | 21:06 |
| Macer | if the startup company uses their network solely for wireless cell data comm... i can see them at least being able to offer it for quite some time | 21:06 |
| Macer | and cricket showed you can actually be a startup cell phone company | 21:07 |
| Macer | you just need tower space :) | 21:07 |
| Macer | and don't need to build a huge city wide wired infrastructure | 21:07 |
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| ShadowJK | Wired infra is needed if you want to serve more than 2 users | 23:07 |
| ShadowJK | My local cell tower has no wired uplink, but it serves about 30 users, and we get .25 Mbit/s on it :) | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 23:09 |
| * ShadowJK usually has phone use the other tower, which is about 10km away, and has proper uplink | 23:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer | you get those 25mb/s only if nobody else is using data on same cell | 23:10 |
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| peterbjornx | hello | 23:11 |
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| peterbjornx | does anyone in here have experience with flashing the n900 from a recovery console? | 23:13 |
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| peterbjornx | it should be possible but mtd_debug tells me that the image is too large (rootfs.jffs2 to mtd5) | 23:14 |
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| TNZ | Hi all | 23:42 |
| TNZ | Thx fo KP50 guys | 23:42 |
| TNZ | to KP50 guys :) | 23:42 |
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| peterbjornx | anyone here? | 23:56 |
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