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| joga | I noticed a couple of updates, for the power kernel and also a "Linux kernel for power user (boot image for multiboot)" but appman doesn't seem to want to apply the updates and complains about the two packages conflicting with each other? | 01:16 |
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| joga | should I restore the vanilla kernel first or something? | 01:17 |
| joga | now that I looked more carefully it actually seems to conflict with the previous one (2.6.28-10power49) | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | joga: that's what fapman gets you | 01:36 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: default appman too | 01:43 |
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| ThreeM | woohooo | 02:17 |
| ThreeM | N900 for "only" 599eur @ amazon | 02:18 |
| ThreeM | now we can call our phone Classic Phone | 02:18 |
| ThreeM | or: oldtimer | 02:18 |
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| nox- | ouch | 02:20 |
| Hurrian | 599E? | 02:27 |
| Hurrian | wasn't that the launch price? | 02:27 |
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| * nox- payed maybe 350 or so... | 02:33 | |
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| ThreeM | sure | 02:42 |
| ThreeM | in marketplace 200-550eur | 02:42 |
| ThreeM | maybe one time we all get millionärs when we sell our beloved N900 xD | 02:43 |
| nox- | hehe | 02:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | I paid 599+shipping | 02:45 |
| Termana | I paid $700 AUD (550 euro). They are going (apparently new) on ebay for $200 AUD (157 euro) | 02:47 |
| robbiethe1st | I paid $350 for my first, $200 for my next 3(broken ones) | 02:54 |
| r00t|home | i bought a like-new used one for 80eur... last week... | 02:54 |
| robbiethe1st | Or was it next two... | 02:54 |
| robbiethe1st | Nice | 02:54 |
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| nox- | nice r00t|home | 03:04 |
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| LaoLang_cool | Hi, sometimes I want to copy note of calendar, is there some direct way instead of go to the edit gui? | 03:26 |
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| LaoLang_cool | robbiethe1st: ok.. | 03:34 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer hmm the problem is fapman? I do have it installed but haven't used it for a while, I clicked on the update indicator to start default appman in this case | 08:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | joga: then never mind | 08:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Termana: NEW ones for 200$??? where? | 08:51 |
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| teotwaki | haha, I love it | 11:26 |
| teotwaki | everytime a new guy comes into the office, people introduce my team as "the guys who develop the phone part of our business" | 11:27 |
| teotwaki | and every single time, the newcomer goes | 11:27 |
| teotwaki | "Oh, you program on iOS?" | 11:27 |
| teotwaki | "err, no" | 11:27 |
| teotwaki | "Oh, then you program on Android?" (at this point, interest of said person might rise or fall down) | 11:27 |
| teotwaki | "err, no" | 11:28 |
| teotwaki | here, a puzzled look is seen | 11:28 |
| teotwaki | "So, what exactly do you do then?" | 11:28 |
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| teotwaki | "We apply weight balanced distribution algorithms to VoIP, email, sms and chat conversations in order to connect people with call centre agents, and process all of that in real time" | 11:29 |
| teotwaki | After the 6th words, you can just see their eyes go shallow and glaze over. | 11:29 |
| SpeedEvil | So,in other words, you select hold music that's vile enough to make people hang up and reduce load on the support staff? | 11:34 |
| StyXman | jajaja | 11:35 |
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| Jaffa | teotwaki: Fun :) | 12:04 |
| teotwaki | SpeedEvil: something like that :) | 12:05 |
| teotwaki | Jaffa: how's it going mate? | 12:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hehe | 12:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | any of you got knowledge about topic of kernel reading partition tables and creating devices for the partitions found? | 12:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | sth along udev, modprobe, partprobe... | 12:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | we (CSSU) would appreciate some qualified comments and hints on that, over in #maemo-ssu, since we ran into issues with new ke-recv | 12:10 |
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| Jaffa | teotwaki: For the next two weeks: stupidly busy. Then we'll have submitted our requirements definition report and - due to long decision making process - the project will stop (probably until Q3/Q4). So, then I'll be a lot *less* busy | 12:11 |
| Jaffa | teotwaki: How are you? | 12:11 |
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| teotwaki | just finished a major release | 12:12 |
| teotwaki | worth some 300k LOCs | 12:13 |
| Jaffa | Nice | 12:13 |
| teotwaki | For a team of 3.5, I'd say that's not too bad. | 12:13 |
| Jaffa | All new? | 12:13 |
| teotwaki | Most of it, yeah, some of it was ported/refactored. | 12:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | to be more precise: I'm wondering what's involved in creating/changing/removing storage devices/partitions and associated info in kernel and userland | 12:17 |
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| Jaffa | teotwaki: Nice. | 12:23 |
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| Jaffa | teotwaki: I've been doing lots of technical presales work at the moment. Good fun. | 12:23 |
| teotwaki | presales can be awesome | 12:23 |
| teotwaki | If the project/product is interesting, and the customer has good people. | 12:24 |
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| Jaffa | teotwaki: Yeah. Going to South Korea for a week was good. Possibility of going back for a solid couple of weeks. | 12:25 |
| teotwaki | Oh, that is nice. | 12:26 |
| teotwaki | Whereabouts in SK? | 12:26 |
| teotwaki | Seoul? | 12:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or put simply: "<merlin199> runing blkid as root shows you some info about all partitions in the system. but when I reformatted my sd card to only have one partition I still have ghost entries in the output from blkid. even after a reboot[!!!]" and would you comment/correct my thoughts regarding that, as of http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/latest.log.html#t2012-04-10T09:20:06 ff, please | 12:28 |
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| StyXman | DocScrutinizer: I really whish I had more time and knowledge to be more helpfull. all I can say is: the kernel detects the device, emits some events that udev receives, and the applies the matching rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ | 12:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | StyXman: many thanks anyway for that, it assures me my idea about that part been correct | 12:29 |
| StyXman | DocScrutinizer: /dev must be : none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) | 12:29 |
| StyXman | check the /etc/fstab in your machine | 12:30 |
| StyXman | otherwise you have an old static /dev and blkid might get confused with it | 12:31 |
| StyXman | also: try running it under strace -e file and see what files and devices opens | 12:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | exactly my thoughts :-D thanks a lot | 12:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (re static /dev) | 12:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | fstab however is vastly useless on fremantle | 12:32 |
| StyXman | well, from my POV, it shouldn't :| | 12:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's autogenerated on each single reboot | 12:33 |
| StyXman | yeap | 12:33 |
| Jaffa | teotwaki: Yeah. | 12:33 |
| teotwaki | cool | 12:33 |
| StyXman | I understand it's a failsafe measure so the user can't brick so easily the phone | 12:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tbh I don't understand it at all :-S | 12:34 |
| StyXman | the problen is that it actually doesn't detect anything and the assumptions might be no longer valid and *that* bricks the phone | 12:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | editing fstab needs root perms as does messing up the script that generates fstab on maemo | 12:35 |
| StyXman | FI: reformatting /home/user/MyDocs to extX | 12:35 |
| * RST38h yawns | 12:35 | |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 12:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo RST38h | 12:36 |
| RST38h | moo, Doc, how is suffering today? | 12:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | fun | 12:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | kneedeep into ke-recv, udev, kernel+partition tables, fstab etc | 12:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | StyXman: anyway mount shows >>none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,noatime,size=10240k,mode=755)<< | 12:40 |
| StyXman | DocScrutinizer: hmmm | 12:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed hmmm | 12:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | tmpfs!=devtmpfs ?? | 12:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | not at all I'd guess | 12:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | otoh it should at very least be volatile | 12:42 |
| StyXman | yes | 12:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | so couldn't persist acoss reboots, as merlin_1991 complained | 12:42 |
| StyXman | unless the dev existed before mounting udev | 12:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAH | 12:42 |
| StyXman | I *think* it copies the original devices from the underlaying /dev | 12:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think that's the whole idea of devtmpfs | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | no explanation though where to look for sticky partitions | 12:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | not exactly | 12:45 |
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| StyXman | DocScrutinizer: does dmesg say anything abvout them @ boot time? | 12:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea, it's been reported by merlin_1991 | 12:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | but a very good point for what to check | 12:46 |
| StyXman | is it reproducible? | 12:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess it is | 12:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | since we got new ke-recv in CSSU-T, we've seen quite a number of "nice" error reports | 12:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the fact that a broken CSSU version of ke-recv got shipped didn't exactly help on that | 12:48 |
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| StyXman | what's ke-recv? doesn't ring a bell... | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | on the bright side it's a nice lesson for KP and CSSU developers and maintainers :-D | 12:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ke-recv = maemo's special flavour of (I guess) KernelEven-RECeiVe | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | evenT | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | it acts on hotplug and remove events | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | some weid sibling or replacement of/for udev | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | weird* | 12:51 |
| StyXman | for any particular reason? | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang my typing sucks today, even more than usual | 12:51 |
| StyXman | I mean, if you´re using both, they might have an interesting interaction | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | reason for ke-recv? no idea | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | as well as no idea why maemo autogenerates fstab | 12:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you know, design rationale and requirements spec not avaoilable for anything in maemo | 12:53 |
| StyXman | I love the readme: «nothing here». indeed | 12:53 |
| StyXman | nothing in the news or even authors | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | ke-recv-test might shed some dim light | 12:54 |
| StyXman | hmm | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | on general purpose of the whole thing | 12:54 |
| StyXman | DocScrutinizer: just lokking at what files compose it's source gives a rough idea | 12:55 |
| StyXman | I thingk it should go on top of udev | 12:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 12:56 |
| StyXman | I mean, it´s not a replacement | 12:56 |
| StyXman | but that's all I can say for now | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think it deals with events that aren't strickly device-related as in udevadm monitor | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | like plugin to USB host, open/close of battery lid (to [u]mount uSD) etc pp | 12:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/strickly/strictly/. | 13:00 |
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| vi___ | hello | 14:14 |
| vi___ | So I have an 'issue' that I am having difficulty isolating. | 14:14 |
| vi___ | When I run the sharing services configuration applett from settings panel it crashes with: | 14:15 |
| vi___ | 'internal error. Application 'settings' closed. | 14:16 |
| vi___ | I have no sharing accounts at the moment. | 14:16 |
| vi___ | I want to add one for a service (flickr as it happens) | 14:16 |
| vi___ | So I click the sharing applett | 14:16 |
| vi___ | it asks if I want to create a new account or add and existing one | 14:16 |
| vi___ | I click 'add existing' then it crashes. | 14:17 |
| vi___ | How can I run the settings applet from the command line in order that I may see some kind of error/debug? | 14:17 |
| vi___ | I cannot seem to find the 'settings' program in the list of .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/hildon/SOMEFILES.desktop | 14:18 |
| vi___ | anyone? | 14:26 |
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| Macer | http://www.mercurynews.com/mike-cassidy/ci_20359712/mike-cassidy-jack-tramiel-commodore-64-pioneer-died?source=most_viewed | 14:59 |
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| vi___ | merlin1991: yo | 15:14 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: actually the /dev node is long gone, but blkid still reports about those parititoins | 15:21 |
| merlin1991 | s/paritioins/partitions | 15:21 |
| merlin1991 | vi___: hey | 15:23 |
| StyXman | merlin1991: probably it asks the kernel and he's the one confused? | 15:23 |
| merlin1991 | StyXman: I would agree on that if it wouldn't be persistant over reboots | 15:23 |
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| StyXman | merlin1991: true | 15:24 |
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| StyXman | merlin1991: also: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/7386 | 15:26 |
| merlin1991 | die apt-worker | 15:27 |
| StyXman | blkid seems to keep track of partitions in /etc/blkid.tab | 15:27 |
| vi___ | are you able to shed any light on my query above | 15:27 |
| vi___ | ? | 15:27 |
| vi___ | merlin1991: | 15:27 |
| StyXman | merlin1991: and reads /proc/partitions | 15:27 |
| merlin1991 | vi___: I don't know much about it, but my best guess is, that you have some unstable plugin that crashes the whole thing | 15:28 |
| vi___ | mmm | 15:28 |
| merlin1991 | check for extra sharing plugins you have installed | 15:28 |
| vi___ | Do you know the location of the .desktop file for the setup program? (spanner icon). | 15:29 |
| merlin1991 | StyXman: http://pastebin.com/qR5iMx01 | 15:30 |
| merlin1991 | funky imo | 15:30 |
| StyXman | merlin1991: hmmm, IIRC, there's a script that runs at boo who creates the devices | 15:32 |
| StyXman | .... but I can't tell right now | 15:32 |
| * StyXman "busy working" | 15:32 | |
| merlin1991 | yeah you're right about blkid.tab there are my ghost partitions | 15:33 |
| merlin1991 | this CRIES for a patch | 15:33 |
| StyXman | this cries for «don't try to create devices blindingly at boot» | 15:35 |
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| StyXman | also: read blkid's code :| | 15:38 |
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| Sicelo | ~fubar | 15:42 |
| infobot | fubar is F*cked Up Beyond Any Recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's InfoBar. and everything. | 15:42 |
| Sicelo | :P | 15:43 |
| vi___ | merlin: how do I do the bug list thing? | 15:44 |
| vi___ | merlin1991: specifically 10089 | 15:45 |
| vi___ | !bug | 15:45 |
| vi___ | !bug 10089 | 15:45 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10089 Cannot create Flickr sharing account: "Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed." | 15:45 |
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| vi___ | running from terminal I get this vomit: | 15:48 |
| vi___ | http://pastebin.com/30gwdc8j | 15:48 |
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| tcatm | Hey. Can someone tell me whether kernel-power has any additional patches compared to the default kernel? | 15:57 |
| Jaffa | tcatm: It has quite a few | 15:58 |
| tcatm | Hrm. is there a git repo? | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | yes | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | it is in garage.maemo.org | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | tcatm, here https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kernel-power/ | 16:00 |
| tcatm | Awesome. Thanks! | 16:01 |
| tcatm | I'm trying to track down a bug where sometimes the speaker is muted during calls (mic seems to be muted, too). Is this known? | 16:02 |
| guly | which twitter client do people here use? | 16:03 |
| vi___ | mmm, so other share services work. | 16:04 |
| vi___ | It is just the flickr plugin that is failing. | 16:04 |
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| vi___ | SON OF A WHORE | 16:09 |
| vi___ | god damn you stupid phone | 16:09 |
| StyXman | vi___: the language, please | 16:14 |
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| StyXman | it's «son of a bithc» :-P | 16:14 |
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| vi___ | freemangordon: good day sir. | 16:18 |
| vi___ | freemangordon: what would happen if I cranked the 'dsp_voltage_boost' to 255? | 16:18 |
| tcatm | It looks like those power kernel patches won't apply cleanly using quilt :/ | 16:19 |
| Macer | vi___: you will teleport to io | 16:21 |
| StyXman | (Ed's Note: Io is a Jupiter's moon) | 16:23 |
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| Sicelo | tcatm: sure that's not a hardware issue? eg, faulty jack.. resulting in false detection of a headset? | 16:32 |
| tcatm | The symptons I've noticed looked like a software problem. I.e. on some cases I was able to reproduce the problem using software. | 16:36 |
| freemangordon | vi___, it will be either ignored or limited to 250, can't remember exactly, but according to how I code ususally, it will be limited | 16:36 |
| freemangordon | tcatm, actually it is quilt that is used to apply patches in debian/patches, you may want to look at KP thread at TMO on how to build KP | 16:37 |
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| tcatm | Sicelo: Detected headset should show up in dmesg as 'headphone (GPIO 177) is now connected' (I just verified that). | 16:38 |
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| tcatm | Is it normal for the n900 to be quiet when establishing a call? Other phones emit beep tones when the called phone is ringing. | 16:43 |
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| ThreeM | tcatm normal behavior | 16:47 |
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| vi___ | merlin1991: hello | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | hi? | 17:30 |
| vi___ | merlin1991: I assume you are running cssu-t 3.1? | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | among cssu-stable and pr1.3.1 on my 3 devices, yes :D | 17:30 |
| vi___ | heh | 17:31 |
| vi___ | Then perhaps you could quickly try somthing to help me eliminate a possibilty in a bug hunt. | 17:31 |
| merlin1991 | sure | 17:31 |
| vi___ | Can you take a photo with the camera, when it shows you the photo on the screen, press the gallery button on the bottom right hand corner. | 17:32 |
| vi___ | tell me , does it open the phot in maemo-photo (gallery) or the microb (browser) | 17:32 |
| vi___ | ^photo | 17:32 |
| merlin1991 | gallery | 17:33 |
| vi___ | bollocks | 17:33 |
| vi___ | for some reason photos are opening in the browser for me | 17:33 |
| vi___ | this is a huge pain in the nuts | 17:33 |
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| merlin1991 | microb or some other browser? | 17:33 |
| vi___ | microb | 17:35 |
| vi___ | it opens with: | 17:35 |
| vi___ | file://PATH/TO/MY/PHOTO.jpg | 17:35 |
| merlin1991 | check your /usr/share/applications/hildon/image-viewer.desktop | 17:36 |
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| merlin1991 | though I'm not 100% sure how those mime handlers are registered | 17:37 |
| merlin1991 | someone else will know for sure :) | 17:38 |
| vi___ | can you paste your line of mimetype handlers from your image-viewer.desktop? | 17:39 |
| merlin1991 | MimeType=image/jpeg;image/png;image/gif;image/tiff | 17:41 |
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| ThreeM | http://german-bash.org/44335 | 17:41 |
| ThreeM | oh wrong channel. sorry | 17:42 |
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| merlin1991 | vi___: does your image-viewer.desktop contain the X-Osso-Service line? | 17:44 |
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| merlin1991 | btw vi___ check in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list for the line with image/jpeg | 17:46 |
| merlin1991 | it should be image/jpeg=hildon-image-viewer.desktop | 17:46 |
| vi___ | merlin1991: I reinstalled 'imageviewer' which seems to update a bunch of mime types type stuff in the postinst. | 17:51 |
| vi___ | This seems to have solved the problem. | 17:51 |
| vi___ | fffuuuu knows how it got broken. | 17:51 |
| vi___ | Thankyou for your assistance. | 17:51 |
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| vi___ | FWIW my .desktop file looked the same as yours. | 17:52 |
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| merlin1991 | how did it get broken? | 17:55 |
| vi___ | I really do not know. | 17:56 |
| vi___ | It happened some time after CSSU-T update 2 updates back I think. | 17:56 |
| vi___ | However I not think they are related. | 17:56 |
| vi___ | As it is such a commonly used feature, someone else would have complained. | 17:57 |
| vi___ | (or they were so leet they fixed it already) | 17:57 |
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| tcatm | I think I have found the cause of the bug the causes the earpiece to be muted. | 20:11 |
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| Sicelo | do tell, tcatm | 20:23 |
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| RST38h | moo javispedro | 20:23 |
| javispedro | moo | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo | 20:23 |
| tcatm | Sicelo: It could be the sound driver incorrectly powering on the amplifier. | 20:24 |
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| Sicelo | hmmm | 20:27 |
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| tcatm | Disabling stand-by mode of said amplifier seems to help. | 20:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | strange | 20:38 |
| trumee | guys, can ipad2 tether to a N900? | 20:38 |
| tcatm | Should work. The N900 can speak pretty much any wireless protocol. | 20:39 |
| trumee | need to decide between wifi or 3g version. | 20:40 |
| jonne | use the hotspot thing on the n900 | 20:40 |
| jonne | maybe bluetooth even works, never tried it | 20:40 |
| jonne | do ipads have bluetooth? | 20:40 |
| trumee | iirc there was a limitation on adhoc networking | 20:41 |
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| * trumee is in a shop atm deciding to buy which model | 20:41 | |
| trumee | tmo is dog slow. | 20:42 |
| r00t|home | simple: buy the 'none' model | 20:42 |
| trumee | so need a confirmation | 20:42 |
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| r00t|home | that's the only good model of the ipad | 20:42 |
| trumee | r00t|home, need one for my wife :) | 20:43 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer, any idea? | 20:49 |
| trumee | MAG had an ipad iirc | 20:49 |
| trumee | MohammadAG, ping | 20:49 |
| trumee | ~ping | 20:50 |
| infobot | ~pong | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | trumee: sprry nope | 20:50 |
| RST38h | ...Objects that caused the latest major natural disaster. We have at least three different anomalous explanations for the Indian Ocean Tsunami now. We don't need more. | 20:50 |
| MohammadAG | trumee: Pong | 20:52 |
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| trumee | MohammadAG, can ipad be tethered to N900? | 21:14 |
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| trumee | ~ping | 21:16 |
| infobot | ~pong | 21:16 |
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| jacekowski | trumee: using wifi | 21:25 |
| trumee | jacekowski, yes via wifi? | 21:28 |
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| jacekowski | yeah | 21:29 |
| jacekowski | same as tethering anything else to n900 then | 21:29 |
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| trumee | jacekowski, tx | 21:37 |
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| nikko | hi | 22:27 |
| nikko | my maemo keyboard lights doesnt turn on anymore | 22:28 |
| nikko | even after reflashing | 22:29 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer, it is possible to clean mtd2 log? | 22:29 |
| nikko | anyone knows how to fix this ? | 22:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Pali: well, I guess mtd_debug could help erasing it | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | Pali: no idea what's the format of a "clean" mtd2 though | 22:36 |
| Pali | it is safe? | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, obviously not, since ^^^ | 22:37 |
| Pali | I'd like to clean it, because I have more kernel logs which is now useless (caused by my testing...) | 22:37 |
| Pali | and parsing new is hard now | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | you could check kernel src to learn how it determines end-of-buffer | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd guess there must be a tool to read mtd oopslog as well | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | which obviously should be the way to go | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | odds are it doesn't use any particular formatting and just starts dumping at some lst special "<EOF>" it finds in mtd2 | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | but - as mentioned above - I have no idea | 22:41 |
| nikko | ever lost keypad lights ?? | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | what do you mean? | 22:43 |
| nikko | the azerty keyboard of the n900 | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | kbd backlights are switching off when ambient light > some particular threshold | 22:44 |
| nikko | the light under that *should* turn on when you open the N900 | 22:44 |
| nikko | well not mine | 22:44 |
| nikko | even in total darkness :/ | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | wow | 22:44 |
| nikko | and i just reflashed the device | 22:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | double-wow | 22:44 |
| nikko | also its back from nokia care support | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | you might want to remove battery for 2 minutes | 22:45 |
| nikko | ok lets try | 22:45 |
| nikko | but damn, howcome my n900 nbehave like a computer + win xp? :p | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | the lp5523 chip that controls indicator and kbd LEDs is dirctly connected to battery. It might have locked up | 22:45 |
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| nikko | ok | 22:47 |
| nikko | goot to know | 22:47 |
| nikko | good | 22:47 |
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| nikko | nothing yet | 22:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | does indicator LED work normally? | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | did you restore from backup after reflashing? | 23:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | t900:~# grep Backlight /etc/mce/mce.ini | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | BacklightTimeout=30 | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | BacklightFadeTime=100 | 23:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | t900:~# cat /sys/class/leds/lp5523:kb1/led_current | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | 50 | 23:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | while sleep 1; do echo 100 > /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:kb1/brightness; done | 23:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dang, drive by asker | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | >:-( | 23:20 |
| merlin1991 | fmtx power level was which sysnode? | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 23:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | power_level? | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/power_level? | 23:30 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah that one | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | now if I'd also know the safe max :/ | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | you know it's kinda locked during first usage | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no safe max | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | just ramp up to your liking ;-D | 23:33 |
| merlin1991 | and watch it burn? :D | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah | 23:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ask jacekowski | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's some working max, not safe max though. the power is picowatts | 23:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or was it nanowatts? | 23:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nuttin will burn, but odds are it's locked anyway, unless you use jacekowski 's hack | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm not sure if theoretic max is 255, or was it sth like 185 | 23:42 |
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| merlin1991 | cat shows me it's currently 120 | 23:48 |
| Pali | merlin1991, max fmtx power_level is 120 | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | 111 here, but "ro" | 23:48 |
| Pali | in kp50 was changed to max 120 by default | 23:48 |
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| Pali | also in kp50 is possible to lock/unlock this power_level | 23:48 |
| Pali | via sysfs lock | 23:49 |
| Pali | usefull to hack unpatched fmtxd | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | the chip however has no dangerous max setting | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I guess the 120 limit is also a raher random value | 23:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw I just have set it to 222 and still no smoke | 23:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (on an ancient hostmode kernel) | 23:51 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer, max is 120 see kernel source code | 23:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's got kernel source to do with the chip? | 23:51 |
| Pali | I think that higher value is decreased to 120 in kernel driver | 23:51 |
| Pali | of cource if you do not patched driver | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, and that 120 limit is "randomly" picked | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway o/ bbl | 23:52 |
| DavidTalmage_ | Hi. Can someone here help me with QtCreator, a subdirs project, and autoconf? | 23:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yes | 23:54 |
| DavidTalmage_ | Thanks! | 23:54 |
| DavidTalmage_ | I'm building some applications that depend on libnfnetlink and libnetfilter_queue. | 23:55 |
| DavidTalmage_ | Those libs aren't part of Maemo, so I'm building them myself. | 23:55 |
| DavidTalmage_ | I set up my subdirs project as shown in the qt-project wiki page QmakeInvokeAutotools. | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I just said "yes, somebody can help for sure" | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway ask | 23:56 |
| soltys | :D | 23:56 |
| DavidTalmage_ | Ah. Standard hacker answer. :-) | 23:56 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | There's a shadow build directory at the same level as my project directory. | 23:57 |
| DavidTalmage_ | Things build. Except that libnetfilter_queue depends on libnfnetlink. During compilation, gcc wants to look in the wrong place for the libnfnetlink headers. | 23:58 |
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| DavidTalmage_ | I checked the Makefile in the build directory. It has the wrong path. | 23:59 |
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