IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-03-22

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villagerDocScrutinizer: nah, it's alarmd... I remember programming against the alarmd public API, there were flags for requesting that your action should be performed even if it means waking the device up from power-off00:22
PaliDocScrutinizer, I found reset reason :D but for GP mode (no security, no certificate)00:23
Palisection Image format for GP devices00:23
villagerand yes, alarmd can be used for anything, it's basically as powerful as crond00:23
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villagerand atd00:24
Palihere is written that after image is executed in r0 is stored pointer to some structure where is also info of "reset reason"00:24
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Palibut this belong to GP, not our HS mode...00:24
Palibut seems to be standard and same for all omap3 devices00:25
Palidoes somebody know how can be boot reason readed on beagle board?00:25
Palianybody who has beagle board is here?00:26
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Estel_hello Maemo01:11
Estel_does anyone know, how to disable unlocking device on keyboard slide out?01:12
MohammadAGEstel_, mce.ini01:12
Estel_while holding N900 in my pocket, from time to time it open itself, thus enabling touchap, eating battery etc01:12
Estel_oh, thanks01:12
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szopin|afkint_ua: trying latest revision, menu doesn't list .3701:30
szopin|afk.35, stock, custom01:31
int_uait's called nemo01:31
Estel_MohammadAG,  which option control that? went through whole mce.ini without finding it01:31
szopin|afkno such option or I'm doing it all wrong01:31
Estel_AutolockWhenSlideOpen doesnt seem to change that01:31
Estel_it only allows/permit timeout autolock, yep?01:31
int_uaszopin|afk: BTW, I was talking about RPMs only when I told to place them in files/01:31
int_uaszopin|afk: If you want to reuse ubuntu image, leave it where it is :)01:32
int_uaszopin|afk: What revision are you using?01:32
szopin|afkdo i need to copy them for this option to appear?01:32
szopin|afkI think latest, let me recheck, brb01:32
int_uaszopin|afk: no, the option is part of the script01:33
int_uaszopin|afk: the latest is 6001:33
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szopin|afkbzr... gets it, right?01:34
int_uaszopin|afk: bzr pull01:34
szopin|afkyeah got 60th now, brb01:34
szopin|afkstill firmware lists meego, local, nothing01:34
szopin|afkand .36, stock, custom01:35
szopin|afkoh wait01:38
szopin|afkgot it, created a dir in dir...01:38
szopin|afkstupid me01:38
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int_uaszopin|afk: wait!01:42
int_uaszopin|afk: I've forgot to remove uInitrd from boot.scr01:42
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int_uafor Nemo kernel that doesn't have initrd01:43
int_uaand it will not boot trying to get uInitrd01:43
int_uafixing it01:43
szopin|afkformatting sd01:44
szopin|afkso no worries ;)01:45
int_uaszopin|afk: pushed rev 6101:48
szopin|afkso should I use bzr pull lp:... instead of branch?01:49
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int_uayou can use just bzr pull01:51
int_uaszopin|afk: If you already have a branch in that directory :)01:52
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int_uaoh, no01:53
int_uaszopin|afk: It still needs fixing(01:53
Estel_so, again, does anyone know a way to disable unlocking device on keyboard slide-out?01:54
int_uaszopin|afk: I hope removing 0x83000000 from "bootm 0x82000000 0x83000000" will help. Pushing new revision.01:55
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szopin|afkno idea what it means even :(01:59
int_uaszopin|afk: wait a minute until I confirm it's working :)02:00
szopin|afksure thing02:01
int_uait booted02:01
int_uanot really actually02:02
int_ua"No available  ptys". PanzerSajt encountered this error02:02
int_uabut I've just installed only kernel package02:03
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int_uaszopin|afk: It took me ~3-4 hours on my old laptop with dist-upgrade and 12.04 image02:04
szopin|afkyeah, planning a repeat: start today, finish in the morning02:04
szopin|afkbruteforcing is not an option with such eta's02:05
int_uaszopin|afk: With revision 62 you should get at least the same results (booted with No available ptys" error) but maybe installing other Nemo packages will fix it, IDK02:05
szopin|afkon it02:06
int_uaszopin|afk: are you using 11.10 image?02:07
int_uaI've used daily02:07
szopin|afkwant to try 12.04, but can go ahead with 1102:07
szopin|afktell me which is better to test to get meaningful results02:08
int_ua11.10 will not work because I've just understood that I've hard-coded armhf arch for Nemo packages conversion02:08
szopin|afkso go-ahead with daily/mobiledaily is ok?02:09
int_uaszopin|afk: You've got 11.10 booting? with what revision?02:09
int_uayeah, 12.04 should be ok02:09
szopin|afkbut with random errors/crits/reboots every now and then02:10
szopin|afksounds like the errata that got modest randomly crashing02:10
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int_uawell, it's a simple fix for 11.10 + Nemo support... And it should work. If you want 11.1o I can make it in 3-5 minutes02:11
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int_uaotherwise use 12.04 :)02:12
szopin|afknow only asks for fat and swp02:12
szopin|afkpretty sure it asked for 3 partitions yesterday02:12
szopin|afkgoing for 12.04 atm02:12
szopin|afkhaving 11 would be nice, but no idea if they thumbfixed it02:13
szopin|afk12 got much higher chance of this being incorporated02:13
int_uaok, let's stick with 12.04 because that fix may break both02:13
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int_uaI've switched swap and ext and now ext takes all available space02:14
szopin|afkif 11 would run stabler, why not, but with 12 running... unless it is much faster, no need I guess02:14
szopin|afkhmmm still dling stuff... oh right02:15
szopin|afkonly got 11 dled02:15
szopin|afknow it's precise-...02:15
szopin|afkbtw, I selected ofono now and before02:16
int_uaBTW, since it's _daily_, it's recommended to remove old image every day. In theory, of course :)02:16
szopin|afkknow what to install to actually test it?02:16
szopin|afkmeego ofono package says, needs testing/confirming02:17
int_uaI've tested it myself only once. But there are two packages after it in the menu that should work with it02:17
szopin|afkmade a call???02:17
int_uayeah, but without any sound02:17
szopin|afkit's yellow status02:18
szopin|afkso hardly working considering sound is crucial for phone comm02:18
int_uaand it was on 11.10, with old ofono. There are 1.0 version, but someone has to compile it.02:18
* SpeedEvil ponders that his calltime on the phone does not exceed 30 mins.02:19
szopin|afkhope it will be easier to troubleshoot than nit02:19
SpeedEvilIn 2 years.02:19
szopin|afknot much customer service anger there I guess02:19
szopin|afkgot 4x more on calls to cust serv02:19
int_uaBTW, I've used command-line test02:20
szopin|afkand 20x more on gf alone02:20
int_uafrom IIRC02:20
szopin|afkgetting a distro with voice will be a killer to maemo as we know it02:20
szopin|afknot in a bad way, just a sign to move to a newer platform that works02:21
int_uawell, I don't want to kill maemo02:21
szopin|afkkernel and glib/libc are currently keeping fremantle bit behind02:21
int_uaAll I want is to use latest software02:21
szopin|afkme neither, but if you got working alternative... why not work on it too?02:22
szopin|afkupstream fixes for device, get an up-to-date everything for arm02:22
int_uaBesides, there are no ready-to-use phone applications, are there?02:22
szopin|afkexactly,latest glib libc6 everything02:23
szopin|afkno idea02:23
szopin|afkseen linphone as 'to download' today in 11.1002:23
szopin|afkbut was on a bus, maybe it is frontend for ofono??02:24
szopin|afkas soon as you can text/call someone from ubuntu whole paradigm has shifted02:24
int_uaI've checked it's site just yesterday, it said it's only SIP+something02:24
int_uabut maybe I've missed something02:25
szopin|afkmight be a wild goose chase02:25
szopin|afkbut if newer glib works on 12, porting or just copying it with compatible rest of libs could update fremantle02:26
szopin|afksomething we cannot expect from N02:26 is down??02:29
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szopin|afkat this time?02:29
szopin|afkworks for me02:29
szopin|afktalk. at least02:30
int_uaDown for me02:30
szopin| seems so02:30
szopin| works02:30
szopin|afkhmm sometihng is wrong02:35
szopin|afkqemu: uncaught target signal 11 segfault02:36
Paliwoking again02:36
szopin| line 282: 2490 segfault chroot $mountpoint_target /tmp/install-chroot-part.sh02:36
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szopin|afkcp: cannot stat '/mnt/boot.scr': no such file or dir02:37
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int_uaszopin|afk: hmmm02:38
szopin|afkright after vmlinuz -> /mnt/vmlinuz02:38
int_uaszopin|afk: What is you desktop version?02:38
int_uaszopin|afk: vmlinuz?02:38
szopin|afkit was the line before qemu panicking02:39
int_uacan you post output on pastebin?02:39
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int_uaszopin|afk: there are no actions with vmlinuz in install.sh02:40
szopin|afkright after var/run02:41
int_uaoh, got it. It was cp output02:42
szopin|afkthough qemu before, not sure02:42
int_uawhat is your qemu version?02:42
szopin|afklol, not installed02:43
szopin|afkadvises me to aptget install qemu-kvm02:43
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szopin|afkhow did it brick... :/02:44
int_uaI should've checked it in the script02:44
int_uaI mean there are checks present, let me check these checks)02:44
szopin|afkgoing to install and retry02:44
int_uaI've pushed new revision with arch fix02:45
int_uabut it will not change anything for 12.0402:45
szopin|afkso retry... gonna pull latest anyway02:46
int_uaBTW, you need to unmount /mnt manually02:46
int_uayeah, 6302:46
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szopin|afkno /mnt02:47
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int_uaJust use line 15 and line 302 from install.sh02:48
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szopin|afknow they got used... fuser lists nothing, hope disconnecting doesn't fsck it02:51
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int_uadid you use line 302?02:53
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szopin|afkno, just disconnected02:53
szopin|afkwhat is line 302?02:53
int_ua /mnt has 4 subdirs that are mounted02:53
int_ualine from that unmounts it correctly02:54
szopin|afkwouldn't disconnecting kill those?02:54
szopin|afkone sec02:54
int_uaanyway, you will reformat it02:54
szopin|afknot sure if copying all that $will work02:55
int_uait will work affter copying line 15, see above :)02:56
szopin|afkgoing to reboot... now it's all busy02:58
szopin|afkmountpoint /media/source doesn't seem to exist02:59
int_uawait, why reboot?03:02
int_uato purge all mounts?03:03
szopin|afkgot sdc busy03:03
szopin|afknow it's gone03:03
szopin|afkoh wow03:04
szopin|afkseems I somehow partitioned emmc to 8g fat/1g swap/18g ext303:05
szopin|afksd doesn't even show up in gparted lolol03:06
int_uado you have 32Gb?03:06
szopin|afkyup, both emmc and sd03:07
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int_uawait, you've partitioned eMMC?!03:07
szopin|afkrefreshed gparted says no03:08
szopin|afkbut file manager in N900 would disagree03:08
szopin|afkI have no idea what is going on03:08
int_uawhat does fdisk -l says?03:08
szopin|afkfile manager now lists empty dirs03:08
szopin|afklet me check mc03:08
int_uado not write anything to that dirs03:09
szopin|afkmc reports only DCIM dir03:09
szopin|afkbut as mounted03:09
szopin|afkthis is expected03:09
szopin|afklets hope gparted now got it right03:09
int_uaI'm not sure that it can be rescued if you've really partitioned eMMC03:10
int_uaI mean the data on it03:10
szopin|afkI hope this was just ubuntu fluke03:10
szopin|afknever issued any command on sdb03:10
int_uaDid you unplug it?03:10
szopin|afknothing worth keeping there03:10
int_uaplease check fdisk -l03:10
szopin|afkexcept backupmenu, but phone is still working :)03:11
szopin|afkno... time to install :)03:11
szopin|afksrsly, nothing to lose03:11
int_uaok, I have to go to sleep03:11
szopin|afkcontacts sms should be on rootfs03:11
szopin|afkme too03:11
szopin|afklast run03:11
int_uaHope you will succeed ;)03:11
szopin|afkcya soon03:12
szopin|afkwill report back03:12
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int_uacontacts are on eMMC. But they are not in MyDocs03:12
int_uaand AFAIU you cannot get /home corrupted from PC03:13
szopin|afkcorrupting ext2/3... you would need intent03:13
int_uaBut I'm not sure that it will boot if you've deleted MyDocs03:13
szopin|afkyou can boot on /rootfs alone03:14
szopin|afkMyDocs gbets loaded last03:14
szopin|afkafter everything else03:14
int_uadidn't try it myself :))03:14
szopin|afkno boot thingies there03:14
szopin|afkelse you could make rootfs space with mydocs03:14
int_uaanyway, see you tomorrow :)03:15
szopin|afkbut it is much later mounted03:15
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LaoLang_coolanyone use fmms? I like the notification sound of it, I want to find where the sound is, so I can set sms notification's sound to it too04:31
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LaoLang_coolok, I've found it, it's email1 :)04:33
LaoLang_coolHow to set it to email1... it's not listed under the setting for sms...04:35
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zenithzephyrIs anyone know about mono&moonlight?06:02
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psycho_oreosanyone happen to know the package name that contains the GNU version of ps? not ps as in postscript but ps as in that process viewer tool. I'm trying to find the offending process that is deliberately shutting off wlan0 interface08:00
Sicelohmm.. psycho_oreos, i don't remember too well now, but check out08:14
psycho_oreosSicelo, thanks, going to have a quick glance. I'm just really pissed off that there's a process that is deliberately turning wlan0 down, its evident in both dmesg and in ip but I can't find the bloody culprit08:16
Siceloeither coreutils-gnu or procps :/08:16
psycho_oreosits definitely not coreutils-gnu, I already have that installed, checked the contents of that package and there's no gnu ps tool08:18
DocScrutinizerthough I'm not all that sure how it will help to find a process that shuts down wkan08:18
psycho_oreosthanks, going to use procps08:18
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DocScrutinizerI always thought htop is indispensable08:19
psycho_oreosyeah its not a definitive way, but airmon-ng usually lists offending process, though I have yet to see how that really works. I bet its not for embedded setups08:19
DocScrutinizerbut admittedly sometimes there's nothing that competes to ps08:19
DocScrutinizerto a real ps, not that messybox BS08:21
psycho_oreosits annoying that so far I've tried a few tools to pinpoint the culprit but so far I have not gotten anywhere closer08:21
DocScrutinizerwhat's the *exact* problem?08:22
psycho_oreosrunning kp50 with the latest CSSU (testing), I ran airodump-ng on wlan0 with lxp's drivers. airodump-ng keeps reporting interface wlan0 is down and after awhile the process aborts leaving a mess in the terminal08:23
psycho_oreosdmesg is littered with firmware booted, up and down repeatedly08:23
psycho_oreosI've also even wrote a nasty while script (purely for the sake of testing) to constantly turn the interface up regardless of the state but it doesn't really help airodump-ng08:24
DocScrutinizertwo possibilities come to mind: either wlan itself "segfaults" and gets reloaded, or ICD2 and peers does that08:25
* psycho_oreos is certain that once the N900 is associated properly to a normal network (via managed mode) it will not disassociate itself08:25
psycho_oreosheh I tried killing wlancond, but admittedly if I tried to kill it at least twice the device would automatically reboot08:26
* psycho_oreos tries the managed mode just for the sake of narrowing down the problem08:26
DocScrutinizeryes, there's been that "bug" that wlan xucks battery like mad while not associated. Nokia implemented a "fix" into (IIRC) ICD2 so it gets modprobe-r'd for long periods between scans for APs08:27
DocScrutinizerhey, when you kill processes started via dsme, you sure will get a reboot sometimes08:28
DocScrutinizertry "stop <processname>"08:28
DocScrutinizerrather than "killall <processname>"08:28
psycho_oreosinterestingly enough the fix nokia did, does not affect the current status of interface constantly going up and down. I'm certain its somewhere along CSSU testing/kp is somehow causing the issue. I remember awhile back lxp released osso-wlan fix which may also be the culprit08:29
psycho_oreosyeah I did pkill, which would be similar to killall :) I'm going to try using the method you said after I try associating to wlan through normal way and seeing if that is not the issue08:30
DocScrutinizerif that's realy related to CSSU &/| KP, we definitely need a ticket and further joint effort investigations08:30
psycho_oreosnot until I pinpoint the actual problem :) this is where I'm going to dive deeper myself first as the problem is quite complex actually08:31
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DocScrutinizeryep. thanks a lot for that attitude and for taking care08:31
psycho_oreoso.O *is a little puzzled at that remark*08:32
DocScrutinizeryou *may* try entering airplane mode, then cranking up wlan "manually"08:33
DocScrutinizerpsycho_oreos: why? that remark was a honest thanks and a bit of a compliment08:33
psycho_oreosI dunno, my caffeine dosage right now is on its `worn' state so I get a little skeptic :/08:34
* psycho_oreos thinks the need for more coffee is soon to be required08:34
DocScrutinizerhehe, I'm just about to refiill after wake from suspend08:34
psycho_oreosheh sometimes caffeine doesn't stack for me, but I might be able to stack it today.. who knows :D if not I'll just end up literally hitting the sack early08:35
psycho_oreosairmon-ng reports avahi as being a potential culprit. I'm sure that's a pretty standard process and mind you I hardly use airmon-ng at all, I never use it anywhere else08:36
DocScrutinizerI should run to get to daywork early, so I might leave a bit more early as well08:36
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DocScrutinizerAVAHI!!! GRRRR >:-(08:37
psycho_oreosthat's a good idea actually :) if you can do that lol. I'm not a morning bird but to get work done first thing in the morning and out of the way is something that I highly value.08:38
* DocScrutinizer runs ps|grep avahi08:38
psycho_oreoshehe now now I don't think avahi is really really that bad, I'm sure it exist in literally all default maemo setups but yeah I'm sure there's some other offending process somewhere... *leans slightly to strongly towards ICD2, mutters about stopping wlancond thinking that would probably be the cure*08:39
DocScrutinizerno avahi on my machines ;-)08:39
DocScrutinizeresp not on maemo08:40
psycho_oreoswell avahi-daemon is the actual process name. You don't have it? did you remove it or you never had it? :|08:40
DocScrutinizert900:~# ps aux|grep ava08:40
DocScrutinizer 8138 root      2088 S    grep ava08:40
psycho_oreossounds like you never had it08:41
psycho_oreos>:( *forces removal of avahi immediately*08:41
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psycho_oreosyeah that could a potential possibility but I hardly use that program anyway.. should it remove hotspot I wouldn't really care to be frank lol08:43
DocScrutinizerapt-cache search avahi08:43
psycho_oreosit seems like there's a whole lot of deps08:44
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DocScrutinizernone of which I know who's depending on them08:46
DocScrutinizermaemo-pc-connectivity is a but :-S though, in that list08:47
psycho_oreosit seems like when trying to remove avahi-daemon, the packages to be removed was a whole bunch08:47
DocScrutinizera bit*08:48
psycho_oreosanyhow I've aborted the idea of removing avahi-daemon, I was really close to removing it. I've instead stopped wlancond and retried airodump-ng again.. initally I stopped avahi-daemon now its wlancond08:48
psycho_oreosit seems like wlancond was the culprit, I've had no messages about wlan0 is turned off08:49
* psycho_oreos stops airodump-ng and starts avahi-daemon again08:50
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psycho_oreos1 minute into airodump-ng with avahi-daemon and no messages about interface is down. Usually it was around 30 seconds or so mark08:51
* psycho_oreos runs airodump-ng for a little longer just to make sure08:51
DocScrutinizer~ # ls -l /usr/sbin/wlancond08:52
DocScrutinizer-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        58292 Jan 17 22:47 /usr/sbin/wlancond08:52
DocScrutinizerIIRC I was guinea pig for that thing to test08:52
DocScrutinizernew CSSU might bring it per default08:52
psycho_oreosyou also used airodump-ng to test?08:52
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DocScrutinizernope, not yet08:52
psycho_oreosahh ok08:53
psycho_oreos-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 58292 2012-01-18 07:47 /usr/sbin/wlancond08:53
DocScrutinizeranyway that's my t900 (very old KP, no CSSU):08:53
DocScrutinizert900:~# ls -l /usr/sbin/wlancond08:53
DocScrutinizer-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        60764 Jan 18  2010 /usr/sbin/wlancond08:53
psycho_oreos3 minutes in, its definitely wlancond, by now with that wlancond on, airodump-ng would just quit and osso-xterm would just hang (but you can still close the window)08:54
DocScrutinizerso yu got the "fixed" version of CSSU08:54
psycho_oreosyeah, well its the latest one iinm I can check right now08:55
psycho_oreos21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1 <--- CSSU version08:56
DocScrutinizerpester merlin1991 about it ;-D08:56
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psycho_oreosthat's a bug with CSSU then? o.O *is surprised*08:56
DocScrutinizernot a "bug"08:56
DocScrutinizerwe got that lxp bugFIX in wlancond08:57
psycho_oreosor whatever feature they added and now is causing this headache lol08:57
DocScrutinizerI only tested it for normal operation of device08:58
DocScrutinizerprobably my notion of "normal" wasn't comprehensive08:58
DocScrutinizershould have tested airodump as well08:58
psycho_oreosyeah nothing wrong with normal operation in my case as well, I mean having it associated to an AP through managed mode08:58
psycho_oreos*nods* though its just a little weird how all of the sudden having it in monitor mode would be an issue08:59
DocScrutinizeranyway, /join #maemo-SSU, pester merlin199108:59
* psycho_oreos goes and files info on bugzilla09:00
psycho_oreosheh I'm there :D09:00
DocScrutinizerI've not the time nor the background to dig into that right now, but it definitely needs close and immediate and in-depth investigation09:01
psycho_oreos*nods*, well I'll file it as something other than bug under cssu bugzilla :D09:01
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MrPinguI am on the new CSSU, what's exactly with wlancond - monitor mode - airodump?09:10
MrPinguI could do some test too ;)09:10
psycho_oreosmonitor mode = RFMON mode, there's a good wikipedia article about it. airodump-ng (not airodump) is a tool part of aircrack-ng suite09:13
MrPinguI don't need the info about aircrack-ng and rfmon mode, but I want to know if I can reproduce your bug ;)09:14
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szopin|afkdo you get that bug with airmon only?09:18
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psycho_oreosnot airmon-ng, moreso with airodump-ng and aireplay-ng. Mind you I hardly use airmon-ng myself, almost never09:19
szopin|afkit used to bwe borked09:19
szopin|afkso setting up down, monitor, up was the way09:19
szopin|afknot sure if it works now09:19
psycho_oreosMrPingu, ahh well its easy, latest testing CSSU + aircrack-ng suite = issue09:19
szopin|afkI think it did at kp48 at least09:20
psycho_oreosheh I always use wlan0 interface, I never bothered with airmon-ng but if one uses airmon-ng, it would create a vif named mon009:20
szopin|afkbut dump/replay always worked fine09:20
szopin|afkuseful in some cases09:20
psycho_oreosyeah it works fine with older kernels and what not.. It wasn't an issue with kp50 or so I thought but yeah its wlancond in CSSU-T09:21
szopin|afkhmmm strange estel didn't notice that09:21
psycho_oreoswell if you're a wifi pentester, it's almost an absolute necessity09:21
szopin|afkhe did complain about cleven/faircrack when they were not working with pre5009:22
MrPinguI always use airmon-ng but sometimes mon0 will hang on the same channel as wlan0 if you connect through maemo09:22
szopin|afkso definitely was using monitor mode on 50 :/09:22
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szopin|afknone of those use airmon though09:22
MrPingulet me test... brb09:22
psycho_oreosahh yeah that thread, I skimmed through that as I was trying to look for ways to solve my own problem at the time.09:24
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psycho_oreosmon0 shouldn't hang in theory but you cannot change the channel of mon0 as it would affect wlan0 as well09:25
szopin|afksaturn also mentions no problems if .ko's are copied but .sh's left, so another person with no such prob09:25
szopin|afkthough whether they are in latest testing... probably09:26
psycho_oreosthere was no .sh file with the latest lxp binary tarball. Plus I used that wlan switcher tool by ossipena (hopefully I got his handle right)09:26
szopin| were used by cleven09:27
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szopin|afksaturn mentions they need to be left there and it supposedly works09:27
psycho_oreosahh yes hence I would somewhat see the dependency09:27
szopin|afkbut the fix for not seeing networks sounds much more likely culprit09:28
szopin|afkit does something like restarting wlan interface if I'm not mistaken09:28
szopin|afkmaybe it misbehaves with latest09:29
psycho_oreosyeah I'm not sure, I never used cleven personally. I just like the idea of tapping away with me two thumbs :)09:29
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szopin|afkuseful for war-walking09:29
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MrPingu[ CH 12 ][ Elapsed: 3 mins ][ 2012-03-22 08:2909:30
MrPinguseems to work?09:30
psycho_oreosyou'll have to wait around 30 seconds09:30
szopin|afkMrPingu: do you use the fix for missing wlans?09:30
psycho_oreoswell war-anything almost :)09:31
psycho_oreosyeah I noticed that09:31
MrPinguUhm I only use cssu + new compiled modules09:31
MrPingunever installed the ossowlan.deb that came with the drivers from the old package09:32
psycho_oreoscssu testing right? which version?09:32
MrPingutesting 2.1 + kp5009:32
psycho_oreosthen it sounds like something is making wlancond in my case turning wlan0 down09:33
psycho_oreoss/something/something else/09:34
infobotpsycho_oreos meant: then it sounds like something else is making wlancond in my case turning wlan0 down09:34
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szopin|afktry uninstalling the 'fix'?09:35
psycho_oreoslxp's fix?09:35
szopin|afkunless you have a widget that does this09:35
szopin|afknot that many things left that could be interfering09:36
psycho_oreoswell in #maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer and I discussed about this issue and he provided me the original wlancond (that's not modified by CSSU) and told me to try and run it. Well I did (after backing up the necessary file, copied it across, made it executable and rebooted), the problem still persist with the old wlancond09:37
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psycho_oreosold wlancond as in the one DocScrutinizer provided, so yeah09:37
szopin|afklxp's fix only touches that?09:38
* psycho_oreos is not aware if lxp has made other fixes09:39
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MrPinguI used this monitor on wlan0 FYI09:41
MrPingunormally I use on Mon0 but as you said you always used on wlan0, I did that this time ;)09:41
MrPinguDidn't test injection tho09:41
psycho_oreosnot that using wlan0 or mon0 would actually matter, mon0 is just a vif09:42
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psycho_oreosinjection won't be affected if airodump-ng in your case wasn't affected09:42
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MrPinguIt's all a long time ago I played with wifipentesting09:42
MrPinguI try to learn metasploit nowadays :P09:43
DocScrutinizerjr@halley:~/Documents/OpenMoko> ls -l /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/usr/sbin/wlancond09:43
DocScrutinizer-rwxr-xr-x 1 jr sbox 56412  2. Mär 2010  /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/usr/sbin/wlancond09:43
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psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, your original wlancond (the one with .bak extension, obviously renamed when I tried it out on mine) didn't fix the issue, I'm guessing its somewhere else that is causing wlancond to shut off wlan0 interface09:44
DocScrutinizertry .old, same location09:45
DocScrutinizersee ^^^09:45
DocScrutinizermy .bak also is from last december09:45
psycho_oreosyeah I toyed with aircrack-ng tool because of kp50 and I wanted to make sure that monitor/injection still works09:45
DocScrutinizernot all sure about it09:45
szopin|afk-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         57692 Jul  5  2010 wlancond09:47
MrPinguAh, well I still have to do that test :P monitor is working fine =)09:47
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psycho_oreosheh I almost dug myself in, I did the test with the stock driver and that intercepted by wlancond, So after stopping wlancond and ran airodump-ng again on wlan0 (still with stock drivers) the problem disappeared. Now told to run the .old version I just realised I wasn't using bleeding edge drivers, so I repeated the test with bleeding edge drivers and yeah same result. So its definitely nothing to do with the drivers itself at all09:52
psycho_oreosnow rebooting with wlancond (from wlancond.old)09:52
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MrPinguhave to go to school09:54
MrPingusee ya! Bye!09:55
psycho_oreoscya and thanks for testing!09:55
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MrPinguNP, I like to test simple things. Slowly building my knowledge...09:55
psycho_oreosindeed, a good way somewhat to start somewhere09:56
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psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, nope still no dice with .old09:57
psycho_oreosits definitely pointing to some other process that is making wlancond shut off wlan0... hmpf09:58
_freemangordonpsycho_oreos, do you have any of those "auto-disconnect","auto-switch" or whatever widgets installed?09:59
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psycho_oreos_freemangordon, yeah autodisconnect, I disabled that functionality09:59
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_freemangordonand you're sure it behaves correctly?10:00
_freemangordonpsycho_oreos ^^^10:00
psycho_oreoswell I could instantly remove that autodisconnect tool :) though I've never ran into this issue before10:00
szopin|afkremove/purge/nuke from orbit just to be sure?10:00
_freemangordonwell, I just guessing what could be the reason ;)10:01
_freemangordon*I am10:01
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psycho_oreosI'm curious to see if I can solve it without having to kill wlancond everytime as well :)10:01
_freemangordonpsycho_oreos, you can start dbus-monitor, to check who is calling wlancond through d-bus10:02
psycho_oreosthere's some process that is trying to access network/internet, every so often I get that usual ICD dialogue box coming up when I'm not connected to network/internet. I disabled modest functionality in autochecking so I'm guessing it could be some program that is trying to phone home or some crap10:02
psycho_oreos_freemangordon, good idea, I'll try that10:03
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psycho_oreos_freemangordon, according to dbus-monitor --system, it's reporting mostly icd and icd2 is causing the issue10:14
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psycho_oreosevery four to five times dbus-monitor reports icd && icd2 activity, there seems to be a new entry into dmesg in regards to wl1251 unloaded, and loaded10:15
psycho_oreosand about 5 or so minutes I get the select connection dialog box10:15
szopin|afkinstall wireshark, connect, check where it is connecting, what it is sending/pulling10:16
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psycho_oreosyeah I did something similar to that with little success10:23
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szopin|afkno packets caught?10:23
psycho_oreosthe question was exactly which interface to capture on, I initially tried wlan0 and there was nothing, not even on phonet10:24
szopin|afkmaybe constant up/down interferes10:24
szopin|afktry mitm10:24
DocScrutinizerwell, of course there won't be anything until you actually up the IF ;)10:24
szopin|afkcatch all inbetween N900 and router10:25
szopin|afkno probs with interface this way10:25
psycho_oreosI meant when I did that before, I used tcpdump and I did not have any default gw set nor was icd hooked on any connection10:25
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DocScrutinizerpsycho_oreos: a simple change in your user internet config settings may help. Just don't allow to connect on request, not even with asking10:26
psycho_oreosthough needless to say as soon as I connected up ppp0 (3/3.5G mode) lots of stuff were going in and out10:26
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psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, yeah I did set that to always ask :) I even checked that not long ago because I thought somehow either I turned it to scan automatically or somewhere it was re-enabled. Though that wasn't the case10:27
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psycho_oreosI can't really find the option to not ask, if I could that would be nice :D10:28
szopin|afknot even asking <-10:28
DocScrutinizerdisable "connect to wlan when available"10:28
psycho_oreosits on "always ask" but the dialog box still appears :)10:28
DocScrutinizerooh, you cut out the hole and there's still a hole?10:28
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szopin|afkthere is no option Don't ask10:29
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psycho_oreosI meant under connect automatically heh10:29
psycho_oreosmy bad10:29
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szopin|afkuse wlan and never10:30
psycho_oreosconnect automatically: always ask <-- the rest of the options are greyed out evidently10:30
psycho_oreoshmm ok10:30
szopin|afkas search interval and don't check that box10:30
szopin|afkbut still, would be nice to dump what is going on after connect10:31
psycho_oreoswell if search interval is never, the option to check that box is also inherently greyed out10:31
szopin|afkyeah :)10:31
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szopin|afkmakes sense10:31
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DocScrutinizer"search" means ICD2 is cranking up wlan to do a scan10:32
DocScrutinizerevery N minutes10:32
DocScrutinizerautomatic connect means it's trying to connect when sth asking for internet10:33
psycho_oreosah ha.. and here comes the answer to the clue being the user is the error lol10:33
psycho_oreosstill I see dbus activities with icd and icd2 fiddling with various interfaces even though it already has a connection10:34
DocScrutinizerit's always PEBKAC ;-)10:34
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psycho_oreosnope there's still wl1251 being booted and unloaded in dmesg10:35
psycho_oreoshmm what if I set to say Any connection but never scan?10:36
DocScrutinizeryou NEED "never scan"10:36
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DocScrutinizeryou also need unchecked "use wlan if available"10:36
DocScrutinizerthough that'S prolly greyed out when "never scan"10:37
psycho_oreosthat was done, even on WLAN it still has dmesg showing booting and unloaded. I did that as well (momentarily set search interval to 5 minutes and unchecked that box, and set search interval to never)10:37
DocScrutinizer"automatic connect:" GPRS only10:38
DocScrutinizerdo NOT use "any" or "always ask"10:38
DocScrutinizeruncheck "connect to WLAN if available" too10:39
psycho_oreosI just set it to my usual 3G/3.5G connection, pretty sure there will still be new messages in dmesg in regards to wl125110:39
DocScrutinizer"search interval:" never10:39
psycho_oreosyup all that is done10:39
DocScrutinizernow just make sure no friggin auto-disconnect app is bypassing those settings10:40
psycho_oreosand... there's still new messages in dmesg stating wl1251 being booted and unloaded10:40
* psycho_oreos thinks of just removing auto-disconnect just for the sake of testing10:40
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DocScrutinizerauto-disconnect is messing up system so terribly and thoroughly, I dunno if you ever can uninstall it10:41
DocScrutinizerI never looked into it, but there've been several user reports that the system was in bogus state with auto-disconnect, and only a reflash recovered10:41
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peetahMohammadAG: does open media player support replaygain tags, more specifically for vorbis files ?12:00
peetahI grepped the sources for REPLAY, but did not find any occurence12:01
peetahI wondered if it has support for it through gstreamer or not at all12:02
MohammadAGpeetah: OMP uses mafw as a backend12:03
MohammadAGAnd I'm not sure that even supports replaingain12:04
MohammadAGIf its possible with gatreamer patching mafw to include the changes should be possible12:04
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peetahok thanks12:06
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KhertanOuch just discover that there are good fake n900 :
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x29aKhertan: i wonna see the firmware on it!13:53
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a-nightfuryhi I upgraded recently to the new release of power kernel and now cleven is telling me that the kernel is not compatible I've checked for a new update for cleven but there wasn't any ..... any idea what i should do14:15
dhbikerit only says it might not work properly14:18
dhbikeras far as i can see14:18
dhbikerworks for me14:18
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a-nightfurydhbiker let mecheck on this one14:20
a-nightfurydhbiker, but why would it say it might not work properly while it is14:21
dhbikerit only says that it did not find a known compatible kernel...14:22
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a-nightfurydhbiker, are you able to enable monitor mode14:22
a-nightfurydhbiker, i can't14:22
dhbikerdownload the newer drivers14:23
a-nightfurywhat drivers I already checked twice for updates and none is found14:23
dhbikerread this thread carfully14:24
dhbikerthere is a link to injection drivers14:25
a-nightfurydhbiker, ok i will14:25
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int_uaPali: ping14:31
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a-nightfurydhbiker, that's one big file14:38
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int_uaPali: ping14:43
Paliint_ua: pong14:44
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int_uaPali: Looks like there is a limit of 2 Mb for uImage on N900. Is that true?14:44
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Palioh, it is smaller14:44
Pali2MB is nand kernel parition14:44
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Paliso u-boot + kernel must be smaller then 2MB14:45
int_uaPali: But isn't U-Boot loading kernels from RAM?14:45
Paliyes, U-Boot is starting kernel from RAM14:45
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Palibut kernel must be loaded to RAM first :D14:45
Paliso kernel is stored after u-boot in kernel nand parition14:46
int_uaPali: I'm talking about kernel on mmc, not combined with U-Boot14:46
Paliabout kernel on mmc, I do not know if there is limit14:46
Paliit depens on u-boot14:46
Palibut it is not good idea to have big kernel image14:47
int_uaPali: Ubuntu stock kernel is 3.6Mb, it doesn't look like very big :)14:47
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Palinow I see that rx51 board code thinks that uImage will not be bigger 2MB14:47
int_uaPali: Is it?14:47
Paliso if uImage will be bigger it can rewrite something in RAM (e.g u-boot itself14:48
int_uaPali: So theoretically it can be changed for loading bigger kernels?14:48
Palivia env :-)14:49
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Paliin env kernaddr is stored address where will be kernel loaded14:49
int_uaPali: wow, even without patching?14:49
Palisame for env initrdaddr and scriptaddr14:49
int_uaPali: isn't it the start of image?14:49
Paliif you use "run kernload" it will load kernel image to address specified in kernaddr14:50
int_uaPali: Do you mean that initrdaddr=kernaddr+2Mb?14:51
Palidefault values: kernaddr=0x82008000 initrdaddr=0x84008000 scriptaddr=0x8600800014:52
Paliso if you have both kernel and initfs, kernel must not be bigger then 2MB14:52
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Paliint_ua, so yes14:54
Paliscriptaddr is address where will be loaded u-boot script (e.g. boot.src) if is used14:54
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int_uaPali: I'm a little bit puzzled. 2Mb is 0x200000, right? And the difference between kernaddr and initrdaddr is 0x2000000, on one zero more, 32Mb, is it?15:05
Paliwait, I will check zeros in configs :D15:06
Paliint_ua, you are right, there is really one more zero15:09
Paliso memory limit 32MB (instead 2MB)15:09
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rlinfatiHi, how i can contact the repository admin of extras devel ? some file has incorrect size/md5/sha1/sha256 in the Packages file .15:23
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MrPinguhi, back from school =)15:55
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jargon-any idea why login on seems not to be working?17:38
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rlinfatiFYI: size of fremantle extras (arm+i386+source): 6.7gb, testing 8.7gb, devel 25gb ; ONLY coping the last version of each package21:24
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FIQevery time i take off the battery in my N900, the clock resets.. I suppose this is because of the backup battery has drained, no?23:23
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!23:23
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nox-FIQ, DocScrutinizer once said those backup batteries only last for about a year...23:24
FIQif that's the cause, I'll have to use my calculator as a portable source for checking the time I guess23:24
FIQYes, and I have no plans on buying a new23:24
FIQntpd works23:24
SpeedEvilAssuming you have some net, of course.23:25
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FIQmy USB port is broken, and as N900 product line has ended far ago, and that problem is (pretty much?) impossible to fix, I'll stick to an external battery23:25
FIQtoo bad if i end myself in a "you need to reflash" situation.. :p23:26
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SpeedEvilYou can reflash - if you install a bootloader, and do it from meego23:26
FIQHm, that works I suppose23:26
SpeedEvilOr something else booted from SD23:26
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FIQI once had a fully working archlinux setup (just for fun), and still think I have.. but the problem is the bootloader23:27
FIQuboot works fine, but..23:27
FIQI don't really want to compile it from source to get it to work with powerkernel23:27
FIQespecially since the one time I tried to install Maemo SDK, i got a load of interesting bugs here and there...23:28
HRH_H_Crabi need to install rtcom-accounts-voip-support23:29
HRH_H_Crabi think i broke something and now i cant find it...23:29
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