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szopeen | wow sudo apt-get -purge kernel-power* went better than expected... | 00:05 |
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sicelo_ | O.o | 00:05 |
szopeen | yeah, fingers crossed for reboot :) | 00:05 |
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sicelo_ | you're brave, lol. why didnmt you use the provided 'app'? | 00:06 |
sicelo_ | s/nmt/n't/ | 00:06 |
infobot | sicelo_ meant: you're brave, lol. why didn't you use the provided 'app'? | 00:06 |
szopeen | like I said 'Nokia kernel' app didn't remove it fully (prolly as installed using dpkg before it was on devel) | 00:06 |
szopeen | as uboot conflicted had to do something | 00:07 |
sicelo_ | ah.. i wasnmt joined on chan when u said that :) | 00:07 |
szopeen | didn't get many proposals, lets boot and see | 00:07 |
szopeen | penguin is there | 00:07 |
sicelo_ | :) | 00:07 |
szopeen | boots fine so far... | 00:08 |
szopeen | hands connected | 00:08 |
sicelo_ | using Pali's uboot? | 00:08 |
szopeen | love nokia! | 00:08 |
szopeen | yup | 00:08 |
szopeen | seems to not conflict with backupmenu | 00:08 |
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szopeen | boot succesfull | 00:08 |
szopeen | ssful* | 00:08 |
szopeen | now for nemo | 00:09 |
szopeen | unless opening kbd screws uboot | 00:10 |
szopeen | :/ gonna go with the flow | 00:10 |
sicelo_ | it shouldn't, aiui | 00:10 |
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szopeen | guys with ubuntu 12.04 seem to have best results with it | 00:11 |
sicelo_ | with what? flasher? | 00:12 |
szopeen | was planning multi for nit, but those are more interesting for me | 00:12 |
szopeen | at least for now | 00:12 |
szopeen | getting 12.04 kernel working with fremantle is the goal | 00:12 |
sicelo_ | ah :) | 00:12 |
szopeen | or meego, or any other that would allow updating of glib/libc | 00:12 |
szopeen | droid apps can wait I guess | 00:13 |
sicelo_ | nemo has 2.6.37 kernel | 00:13 |
sicelo_ | Linux fremantle 2.6.37-10.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n900 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 23 11:48:19 UTC 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux | 00:13 |
szopeen | until angrybirds space come out | 00:13 |
sicelo_ | :P | 00:13 |
szopeen | nit will be a must then | 00:13 |
szopeen | shit this game is addictive as hell | 00:13 |
szopeen | yeah, meego got .35 | 00:14 |
sicelo_ | guess i'' not made for it - deleted it a week ago | 00:14 |
szopeen | with .37 we should be back if this doesn't introduce backwards incompatibility with crit components | 00:15 |
sicelo_ | so, is nemo booting fine? | 00:15 |
szopeen | if it does, ofono is our only hope | 00:15 |
szopeen | gonna try it right now | 00:15 |
szopeen | will report back | 00:15 |
szopeen | got a decent random rw card, hope it is usable speed | 00:16 |
sicelo_ | right now i'm running debian on this n900, with nemo's kernel and modules | 00:16 |
sicelo_ | gprs works with ofono ;) | 00:16 |
sicelo_ | i'm thusly connected atm | 00:16 |
szopeen | heard calls also 'might' | 00:16 |
BCMM | sicelo_: does it do phone calls? | 00:17 |
szopeen | but unconfirmed on ubuntu/n900 site | 00:17 |
szopeen | needs retesting, hope I can manage this and confirm/deny | 00:17 |
szopeen | nit is a dark alley it would seem in that regard | 00:17 |
sicelo_ | i didn't test well enough so far.. i'm more an internet person | 00:17 |
szopeen | maybe with 3.3(4) it would start working??? | 00:17 |
sicelo_ | nop.. not so far | 00:18 |
szopeen | they finally upstreamed it seems | 00:18 |
sicelo_ | ssi interface still not implemented | 00:18 |
szopeen | :/ | 00:18 |
sicelo_ | http://elinux.org/N900/ | 00:18 |
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sicelo_ | http://elinux.org/N900 | 00:20 |
sicelo_ | Linus is busy with Android these days, lol | 00:21 |
sicelo_ | i'm going to give Nemo a try one of these days :/ | 00:23 |
NIN101 | calls do work with the nemo kernel, (obviously). I also played around on debian with ofono with it, and got calls working, but audio routing didn't work As calls cost me money, I simply have no motivation to play around too much with them so... | 00:23 |
szopeen | call support? | 00:23 |
szopeen | should be free | 00:23 |
szopeen | if they hear you = works! | 00:24 |
szopeen | complain about audio quality if they do :P | 00:24 |
NIN101 | eh, what? | 00:24 |
szopeen | ask them to confirm | 00:24 |
szopeen | full test performed for 0$ | 00:24 |
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NIN101 | anyway, night. | 00:26 |
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szopeen | dd finished (on mass storage) with cover closed and sd in place still booted fremantle | 00:48 |
szopeen | any clues? | 00:49 |
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szopeen | don't tell me 11.04 can't read this card??? | 00:52 |
szopeen | it looks like it, standard card inserted insta choose action dialog, this with adapter no response | 00:52 |
szopeen | oh ffs | 00:52 |
szopeen | so it's this or scratchbox lol | 00:53 |
szopeen | ok, no rw BM mode with uboot | 00:54 |
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szopeen | maybe from another device... | 00:55 |
szopeen | cya later | 00:55 |
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szopim | would having /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 indicate having 2 partitions? this would explain fremantle boot | 01:03 |
szopim | going now through dd with backupmenu rw mode | 01:04 |
szopim | but it might be useless if that is the case | 01:04 |
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szopim | wow, samsung got partitioning 4mb/rest from start | 01:08 |
szopim | wait, does nemo/ubuntu etc boot from fat or ext? | 01:10 |
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szopim | fuck it boots | 01:49 |
szopim | wow nemo runs quite smoothly | 01:49 |
szopim | need to try with sim | 01:49 |
szopim | next step ubuntu# | 01:49 |
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szopnemo | yay? | 02:01 |
szopim | yay! | 02:01 |
szopnemo | it works | 02:01 |
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szopim | ok coming back to irc doesn seem to work | 02:06 |
szopim | maybe cause of /msg | 02:06 |
szopim | but youtube did play sound oO | 02:06 |
szopim | wonder if n9 flash could work with nemo | 02:08 |
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Hurrian | szopim, you arent hit buy -110? | 02:35 |
Hurrian | s/buy/by/ | 02:36 |
infobot | Hurrian meant: szopim, you arent hit by -110? | 02:36 |
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juozapas | hi | 09:05 |
juozapas | this bug still appear, i use latest version of CSSU. any solution ? | 09:06 |
juozapas | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8958 | 09:06 |
povbot | Bug 8958: portrait layout for receiving call shown in landscape mode (-> no Reject button) | 09:06 |
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szopeen | Hurrian: what do you do on Welcome to ubuntu 11.10 slideshow? | 09:08 |
szopeen | no x button, left and right navigation buttons loop the screens | 09:09 |
freemangordon | juozapas, landscape locked? | 09:10 |
juozapas | yeap | 09:11 |
freemangordon | well, unlock it then | 09:11 |
juozapas | :D | 09:12 |
juozapas | but if i want to use it in landscape mode all the time ? | 09:12 |
szopeen | oh shit oh shit oh shit... clicking on ask ubuntu link opened firefox... yay | 09:12 |
freemangordon | juozapas, disable forced rotation | 09:13 |
juozapas | where i can t | 09:13 |
juozapas | do it ? | 09:13 |
freemangordon | s/disable/not enable | 09:13 |
juozapas | sorry, still cant find it | 09:15 |
freemangordon | juozapas, if forced rotation is not enabled, applications behave as in PR1.3. Only hildon-desktop,tasknav and application launcer rotate. But there is a gconf key to stop them to rotate | 09:15 |
juozapas | ok thx | 09:16 |
szopeen | freemangordon: the errata for thumb2 you mentioned, is there any reason it is not included in latest ubuntu for arm builds? | 09:19 |
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freemangordon | szopeen, AFAIK kernel 3.2 which comes with the distribution has this errata enabled, don't as me why 2.6.35 kernel hast the errata disabled, better ask int_ua :) | 09:20 |
freemangordon | *ask | 09:20 |
juozapas | it will be nice to have contacts in portrait mode ... | 09:20 |
szopeen | using .37 still random segfaults | 09:20 |
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szopeen | this kernel has the errata, seems other parts not | 09:20 |
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freemangordon | szopeen, the errata is only in kernel, what are those other parts? | 09:21 |
freemangordon | *errata fix | 09:21 |
szopeen | hmm, then not that | 09:21 |
freemangordon | well , it could be that | 09:21 |
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freemangordon | as the workaround to take place, there should be access to some bits in coprocessor registers outside of the secure mode | 09:22 |
szopeen | playing with ubuntu 12.04 installer, sometimes boots, sometimes not, error messages between boots differ so was assuming this erratic behaviour could be because of it | 09:22 |
freemangordon | and I am still not convinced n900 bootloader does not disable this access | 09:23 |
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freemangordon | but if you get hit by this errata, it is not segfault, but sigil that is the result | 09:24 |
freemangordon | szopeen, could be | 09:24 |
szopeen | got segfault when closing once, then fsck panicked | 09:24 |
szopeen | ubi-language crashed now, once ubi-console | 09:24 |
szopeen | try again went through then, now it didn't. very erratic behaviour | 09:25 |
freemangordon | seeing sigill anywhere? | 09:25 |
szopeen | those crashes are in desktop | 09:25 |
szopeen | not sure how to alt-f1 :) | 09:25 |
freemangordon | yeah :) | 09:26 |
freemangordon | but there are some logs afaik | 09:26 |
freemangordon | could you ssh into the device | 09:26 |
szopeen | once I get through language, timezone etc... ended up on welcome to 11.10(?) screen with no way to proceed | 09:27 |
szopeen | just looping screens about ubuntu one etc | 09:27 |
szopeen | doubt sshd is setup at this stage | 09:27 |
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_freemangordon | wtf? | 09:28 |
szopeen | once I get through language, timezone etc... ended up on welcome to 11.10(?) screen with no way to proceed | 09:28 |
szopeen | just looping screens about ubuntu one etc | 09:28 |
szopeen | doubt sshd is setup at this stage | 09:28 |
szopeen | might need to battery-kill it and get logs from maemo bootup | 09:29 |
_freemangordon | szopeen, are you sure 11.10 is thumb-compiled? | 09:29 |
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szopeen | int_ua made a thread about 12.04, welcome intro mentions 11.10... no idea which is it right now | 09:30 |
_freemangordon | I've tried ubuntu from int_ua's thread, NFC which version it is, but it crashes every now and then. But the kernel used to boot is 2.6.35, with thumb errata workaround disabled | 09:31 |
szopeen | you can choose .37 now | 09:31 |
_freemangordon | and you chick in .confi that thumb errata workaround is enabled? | 09:32 |
_freemangordon | *.config | 09:32 |
szopeen | and getting to the intro 3 times out of then, not sure how to get past it, but wifi networks are listed correctly that's one good news | 09:32 |
szopeen | not yet | 09:32 |
szopeen | don't have any way to run xterm | 09:32 |
szopeen | ten* | 09:33 |
_freemangordon | well, you should do it on your PC, looking at the kernel sources :) | 09:33 |
_freemangordon | I don't think there is a way to check that on the device | 09:33 |
_freemangordon | or there is? | 09:33 |
szopeen | need to disable numbers/special chars from my wifi to see if it connects :( | 09:33 |
szopeen | no idea... mounting the sd from maemo would show? | 09:34 |
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szopeen | yes I want my music with me, want to stay connected... go away!!! | 09:35 |
_freemangordon | hmm, I don't think .config used to build the kernel is stored anywhere. could be wrong of course | 09:36 |
szopeen | oh... | 09:36 |
Hurrian | boot/config-2.6.37-adaptation-n900 | 09:36 |
_freemangordon | Hurrian, thanks | 09:37 |
szopeen | yay, went through, patience helps | 09:37 |
szopeen | applying changes | 09:37 |
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_freemangordon | szopeen, could you check the file Hurrian pointed to if it has CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_430973=y | 09:38 |
szopeen | once it finishes... triggers man-db atm | 09:39 |
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Hurrian | freemangordon, meego kernel is not compiled with thumb errata fix on | 09:40 |
szopeen | using nemo I believe | 09:40 |
_freemangordon | Well, then someone should recompile it with errata fix on (if ubuntu is thumb compiled) | 09:41 |
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szopeen | fuck yeah heard ubuntu bootup music... halted in the middle but yay asks for password | 09:41 |
szopeen | 11.10... int_ua got some explaining to do... still unity runs oO | 09:42 |
Hurrian | brb, gonna eat a tub of ice cream then work this kernel out | 09:42 |
szopeen | :D | 09:42 |
_freemangordon | :) | 09:42 |
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szopeen | holy shit, it runs... somewhat... top and left menu flashed for a moment, now glorious desktop background.... dammit gotta run to work | 09:45 |
szopeen | worst part is never know if it crashed or still working on something | 09:46 |
Hurrian | mmkay, halfway through the tub. anyways, ubuntu with unity is kinda slow on the phone, we're clearly bottoming out on the ram | 09:47 |
szopeen | how do you disable it? | 09:47 |
Hurrian | change your session to ubuntu classis | 09:47 |
Hurrian | *classic | 09:47 |
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Hurrian | but | 09:48 |
szopeen | oh, on the login page, right... | 09:48 |
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Hurrian | if we can recompile unity-2d to use gles, that would be great | 09:48 |
szopeen | will give it a few minutes just in case it is finishing postinst | 09:48 |
Hurrian | i do not know how linaro does it | 09:48 |
Hurrian | szopeen: you may want to check out linarobuntu | 09:49 |
szopeen | gnome/kde have gles support by any chance? | 09:49 |
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Hurrian | gnome 3's mutter has gles support but needs rebuilding | 09:49 |
szopeen | linarobuntu - noted | 09:50 |
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szopeen | ok, this unity boot is going nowhere, reboot time | 09:51 |
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szopeen | at least shuts nicely | 09:52 |
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Hurrian | it takes time to boot | 09:53 |
Hurrian | a lot of time | 09:53 |
szopeen | or not... kernel panic :) | 09:53 |
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szopeen | would choosing dist upgrade get 12.04? | 09:56 |
Hurrian | yes | 09:57 |
szopeen | next on the list then | 09:58 |
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Sicelo | setup sshd and usb networking/wifi... will simplify things. | 10:01 |
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szopeen | hmmm... no way to charge phone in off state with uboot? | 10:02 |
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szopeen | at least not with sd inside | 10:03 |
szopeen | starts booting | 10:03 |
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_freemangordon | TMO is down :). again ;) | 10:04 |
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szopin_ | whoa... now unity booted in around 1.5min | 10:27 |
szopin_ | all seems to work, though the main button that should list apps kind of not | 10:27 |
szopin_ | no icons displayed, settings opened fine, not even lagging that much | 10:27 |
szopin_ | update manager wants to install 259 packages lol | 10:28 |
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szopin_ | in ubuntu 2d seems bit faster (not sure) lock button doesn't work, got xterm finally... keymap is screwed | 10:35 |
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szopin_ | it is .35 after all | 10:36 |
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szopin_ | filename completion doesn't work even though ctrl-i skips few spaces like tab | 10:37 |
szopin_ | mc! what was the errata number? | 10:37 |
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Hurrian | "ARM stale interworking branch prediction" | 10:38 |
Hurrian | 430973 | 10:38 |
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szopin_ | heh, no way to search for numbers | 10:40 |
szopin_ | arm appears four times though | 10:40 |
szopin_ | nowhere near anything like it | 10:40 |
szopin_ | the are two config files though... .35 from 3 march and 3.0 from oct both 2011 | 10:41 |
szopin_ | how can I check which is used? | 10:41 |
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szopin_ | ok, how to check without need for -a? | 10:48 |
szopin_ | a can be, the - is problematic | 10:48 |
Sicelo | i installed a vkb for stuff not on hwkbd by default... | 10:56 |
Sicelo | u could copy maemo's kbd config | 10:56 |
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szopin_ | onboard kina works: unaaaaammmmeeeeeee -------aaaaaaaaaa | 11:00 |
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szopin_ | got it, .35 | 11:01 |
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szopin_ | surprisingly stable so far | 11:02 |
szopin_ | seems like once it boots it's fine, though 1 in 4 chance of that | 11:03 |
szopin_ | transmission 2.33 starts quickly, one solution to magnet links :) | 11:08 |
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szopin_ | but no way to get rid of unity, only choices ubuntu and ubuntu2d :( | 11:15 |
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MohammadAG | talk down? | 11:24 |
juozapas | looks like | 11:25 |
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Hurrian | yeah, it's tits up, again | 11:27 |
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peetah | MohammadAG and CSSU team: thanks for this new update and your hard work to keep this platform alive | 11:33 |
juozapas | yeap thx | 11:33 |
juozapas | where i can find changelog btw ? | 11:34 |
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psycho_oreos | on wmo? | 11:35 |
MrPingu | TMO down again -.- | 11:35 |
Hurrian | the amount of times it's down is starting to become worrying | 11:36 |
psycho_oreos | the more people requesting for a backup data of these sites the better. Someday it'll probably disappear for sure | 11:37 |
merlin1991 | juozapas: for now you can check the changelog on gitorious http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog | 11:39 |
merlin1991 | proper changelog on the wiki should be there by the end of the week | 11:39 |
juozapas | k thx | 11:39 |
MrPingu | May I ask why zoom is removed from HD? | 11:39 |
merlin1991 | b0rked and useless in the current state | 11:40 |
MrPingu | I used to find it handy sometimes... | 11:40 |
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MrPingu | but I didn't use it frequently | 11:40 |
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merlin1991 | in most cases you loose the ability to input, and there were bugs where h-d messed up completeley | 11:41 |
merlin1991 | s/completeley/completely | 11:41 |
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MrPingu | Ah I see, I don't care much about it =) Thumbs up for the CSSU in general ^^ | 11:42 |
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MrPingu | Now TMO is down; How can I display SSID, wlan0 IP, and External IP through qbw? | 11:44 |
MrPingu | Especially SSID is giving me troubles | 11:45 |
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merlin1991 | some ark/grep/whatever over iwconfig? | 11:45 |
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MohammadAG | peetah: You're welcome :) | 11:46 |
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MrPingu | I'm not a hero with awk, actually I can only melt scripts :P | 11:48 |
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MrPingu | iwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: | 11:48 |
guly | away | 11:48 |
guly | ops | 11:48 |
MrPingu | seems to do it, but it displays the whole line | 11:48 |
psycho_oreos | you can use awk to narrow it down | 11:49 |
MohammadAG | What's the whole line | 11:49 |
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MrPingu | wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID: "My SSID" | 11:50 |
guly | iwconfig wlan0 |grep ESSID |awk 'BEGIN {FS="\'"} {print $2} | sed s/' | 11:50 |
guly | or awk -F \' | 11:50 |
MrPingu | what do you mean with that last? | 11:52 |
guly | ignore that |sed :) | 11:53 |
guly | -F flag sets FS | 11:53 |
MrPingu | Well seems I have to read a bit more about awk, I really have half a clue what you are talking about | 11:54 |
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psycho_oreos | iwconfig wlan0| grep ESSID| awk '{ print $5 $6 }' | 11:54 |
MrPingu | Hmmm you need $4 also ;) | 11:58 |
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MrPingu | but then you got the ESSID: "My SSID" | 11:59 |
MrPingu | while with $5 $6 You only get: SSID" | 11:59 |
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MrPingu | Anyway thanks for your help, I have to go now | 12:07 |
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Psi | anyone know a commandline way to reset the data usage counter on n900? | 12:25 |
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ecksun | do any changelog exist for 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1 (CSSU)? | 13:01 |
ecksun | oh, nvm, think i found it | 13:02 |
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Macer | ecksun: where is it | 13:48 |
Macer | ? | 13:48 |
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Sicelo | Macer: 11:40 < merlin1991> juozapas: for now you can check the changelog on gitorious http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog | 13:49 |
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Macer | tnx | 13:49 |
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Sazpaimon | what does the +m5 bit usually mean for packages? | 13:52 |
Sazpaimon | that it's specifically compiled for fremantle? | 13:52 |
Sazpaimon | because that logic seems to go out the window for harmattan | 13:52 |
Hurrian | +maemo5 | 13:52 |
Sazpaimon | who have now taken to labeling their packages, -maemo1+m6 then -maemo1+m7 | 13:53 |
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Sazpaimon | some random examples of harmattan packages: 2:1.9.5-meego1471+0m7 1.2.50.1+0m7, 1.0.13+0m8 | 13:54 |
Sazpaimon | 1:5.6.51-0maemo2+0m6 | 13:55 |
Sazpaimon | 0m6? wtf | 13:55 |
Hurrian | the people who did maemo were probably gone, and the ones left had no clue what it was for | 13:55 |
Sazpaimon | then randomly: 2:5.1p1-2+harmattan31+0m7 | 13:55 |
MohammadAG | They were there for a reason | 13:56 |
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Sazpaimon | yeah they were to show what maemo version the package was built for | 13:56 |
MohammadAG | BFIH queue processing, or something | 13:56 |
merlin1991 | yep | 13:56 |
Sazpaimon | now it looks like its all out the window | 13:56 |
merlin1991 | and then you have legacy "maemo 6" packages | 13:56 |
merlin1991 | and then it wasn't maemo anymore so any bump ended in +m7 ... | 13:57 |
Sazpaimon | unless theyre randomly incrementing maemo releases and we're now on maemo 8 | 13:57 |
MohammadAG | They probably mean nothing now | 13:57 |
Hurrian | or they're treating it like how ubuntu does updates, bumping the last, smallest number for small bugfixes | 13:57 |
Sazpaimon | except a lot of these came from PR1.2 | 13:58 |
MohammadAG | That's how we do it in the cssu | 13:58 |
MohammadAG | +0cssu1 | 13:58 |
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Sazpaimon | +0cssu1 is considered higher than +m6? | 13:59 |
Sazpaimon | or +m5 | 13:59 |
MohammadAG | We add a .1 before that | 13:59 |
MohammadAG | Or -1 | 13:59 |
Sazpaimon | so you increase the debian patch and replace m5 with 0cssu1 | 14:00 |
MohammadAG | Yeah | 14:00 |
Sazpaimon | i dont know if thats the way ubuntu does it | 14:00 |
Sazpaimon | they usually leave the debian revision alone | 14:00 |
Sazpaimon | at least if a package comes *from* debian | 14:00 |
MohammadAG | There's no cssu concept in Debian | 14:01 |
MohammadAG | There's ppa | 14:01 |
Sazpaimon | it just makes it a little difficult when porting packages to maemo to follow a concise vesioning scheme | 14:02 |
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Sazpaimon | like, I labeled a package 1.0.1-1maemo1 because I took the debian version and made a maemo-specific patch | 14:04 |
Sazpaimon | which I think is right | 14:04 |
Sazpaimon | and my addition to the harmattan extras repository was declined because of that versioning | 14:04 |
Sazpaimon | "Harmattan is maemo6, and not maemo1. Packages use m6 from the Nokia repositories as far as I can tell." | 14:04 |
Sazpaimon | i'm ranting here because #harmattan is annoying sometimes | 14:05 |
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Sazpaimon | if anything it should be 1.0.1-1maemo1+m6, but even then, the package will work fine on fremantle, and probably even diablo | 14:05 |
Sazpaimon | since its a regular terminal package with no gui | 14:05 |
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Sicelo | hmm, looks like i have a bad CA-101 now | 14:26 |
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pdanek | Hey guys | 15:17 |
pdanek | is there any safe way to find out, which firmware is default for my N900 device? | 15:17 |
pdanek | according to the IMEI, I can see it's UK device | 15:18 |
pdanek | but, can I be sure that UK firmware PR1.3 is the proper one and not for example global image? | 15:18 |
pdanek | and, what is the actual difference between UK image and global image? I suppose both contain all languages right? | 15:19 |
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Sicelo | most of us flash global anyway... | 15:21 |
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pdanek | I see | 15:22 |
pdanek | +, do I actually lose warranty with reflashing? | 15:22 |
pdanek | since I reflashed before, so now it doesn't matter | 15:23 |
Sicelo | lol | 15:23 |
Sicelo | no, you don't | 15:23 |
rlinfati | i wanna sell my n800+n900 nit's ; i prefer give it to a floss hacker http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1182344 | 15:23 |
pdanek | ok | 15:23 |
pdanek | cuz my GPS is broken, seems hw issue | 15:23 |
pdanek | but I want to reflash first to be sure | 15:23 |
Sicelo | what do u mean by 'broken'? | 15:23 |
pdanek | from day to day, it won't find a location | 15:24 |
pdanek | searching and nothing is found | 15:24 |
pdanek | I mean | 15:24 |
pdanek | everything worked flawlessly | 15:24 |
Sicelo | try changing supl.nokia.com to supl.google.com | 15:24 |
Sicelo | before you flash | 15:24 |
pdanek | ok | 15:24 |
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Sicelo | rlinfati: so i can't buy it for my gf? | 15:26 |
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rlinfati | Sicelo, you can | 15:27 |
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rlinfati | also... is someone interested (or have ) in make a mirror of full repositories and sdk of maemo ? i wanna check my list of repositories and external script/file that are needed to make a full offline installation | 15:32 |
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edheldil | I hope somebody does the mirror before Nokia pulls the plug | 15:34 |
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rlinfati | i'm doing a local copy , i have all the diablo/fremantle sdk and now i'm mirroring the extras repository | 15:35 |
rlinfati | but are a lot of duplicate stuff as example the libqt4-gui in the cssu has 7 different versions .... and only we need the last one. | 15:37 |
pdanek | looks like supl.google.com helped | 15:37 |
edheldil | pdanek: yeah, I switched to it several months ago as well | 15:38 |
pdanek | Nokia isn't supposed to maintain supl.nokia.com? | 15:38 |
pdanek | since many of their N900 are still in warranty | 15:38 |
bindi | it works on other devices afaik | 15:38 |
bindi | just broke on maemo | 15:38 |
pdanek | hehe | 15:38 |
pdanek | so Nokia service is officially suggesting supl.google.com solution? | 15:38 |
edheldil | well, it did not broke itself | 15:38 |
edheldil | something / somebody had to break it | 15:39 |
Sicelo | well put edheldil ;) | 15:39 |
pdanek | what do they do, if I bring it to the service? | 15:39 |
pdanek | they change it to google.com? | 15:39 |
pdanek | :D | 15:39 |
pdanek | because I can see that this is nice work-around for me, problem fixed | 15:41 |
pdanek | but I doubt that this is the way, how Nokia service is managing it :) | 15:41 |
pdanek | to use source of another company | 15:41 |
pdanek | hmm probably just some caches need to be cleaned | 15:44 |
Sicelo | well, they don't 'official' support N900 anyway.. so forget about how Nokia service deals with it :P | 15:44 |
pdanek | or firmware reflash may help, I will see, since I planned reflash anyway :) | 15:44 |
pdanek | well | 15:44 |
pdanek | I have 2year warranty for N900 | 15:44 |
Sicelo | reflash WONT help | 15:44 |
Sicelo | :D | 15:44 |
rlinfati | reflash do not help | 15:44 |
pdanek | ok | 15:44 |
StyXman | what is supl.m.o or supl.g.c for? | 15:44 |
pdanek | A-GPS source servers I suppose | 15:45 |
pdanek | A-GPS is network positioning | 15:45 |
pdanek | helps GPS to find your location faster | 15:45 |
StyXman | nice | 15:45 |
StyXman | 'cause it sometimes take *ages* | 15:45 |
Sicelo | pdanek: if you take it to them, they'll say "Yeah, you still have some warrantly left. Here's a brand spanking new E7 for you. Goodbye. Next customer please" | 15:45 |
Sicelo | ;) | 15:45 |
pdanek | anyway, I still have like 7 months of European warranty on my N900, so I don't care they don't support it, if something happens, so they must either service it, or give me the money back right? :) | 15:46 |
pdanek | hehe | 15:46 |
pdanek | well | 15:46 |
pdanek | I don't think law allows that | 15:46 |
pdanek | exchange for another phone, if I don't agree with that | 15:46 |
pdanek | they must refund the money right? | 15:46 |
StyXman | hmm, I guess I need a data plan for that, right? | 15:46 |
pdanek | you do | 15:46 |
StyXman | (or wifi access) | 15:47 |
Sicelo | yeah StyXman | 15:47 |
jaska | take new phone, drop new phone on floor, jump on it while they are watching?:) | 15:47 |
StyXman | ok | 15:47 |
pdanek | lol | 15:47 |
* Sicelo doesn't use a-gps anyway | 15:47 | |
Sicelo | unassisted gps works well enough for me | 15:47 |
pdanek | I didn't and location wasn't really found even after 2 mins. | 15:47 |
pdanek | w/o agps | 15:47 |
pdanek | hm | 15:47 |
jaska | atleast its not like n810, which takes like 24h for first fix | 15:48 |
Sicelo | lol | 15:48 |
pdanek | btw, I have another problem, althought not Maemo related, so sorry for offtopic | 15:48 |
Sicelo | ... | 15:49 |
pdanek | some small piece of metal was released in stylus hole of my N900 | 15:49 |
pdanek | now the stylus doesn't really fit on it :) | 15:49 |
Sicelo | O.o | 15:49 |
pdanek | and I'm sure that no 3rd party item is stuck there, some part of N900 is stuck there | 15:50 |
Sicelo | i would panic.. risk of shorting something out | 15:50 |
Sicelo | open it | 15:50 |
pdanek | I suppose there's some kind of metal, spring, which does pressure on stylus, to fit in place | 15:50 |
Sicelo | get service docs from wmo | 15:50 |
pdanek | and this one was released | 15:50 |
pdanek | hehe | 15:50 |
pdanek | I wouldn't, I have warranty and I want new phone anyway lol | 15:50 |
pdanek | good days with N900 but the time is gone for me, browser is slow, dispaly is small :) | 15:51 |
pdanek | but it's still great phone, no doubt | 15:52 |
Sicelo | well, good luck with warranty | 15:52 |
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pdanek | I'll see | 15:52 |
pdanek | anyway, thanks for AGPS help | 15:52 |
pdanek | just a small note | 15:53 |
pdanek | before taking into the service center | 15:53 |
pdanek | do you advise original UK image, or it doesn't really matter? | 15:54 |
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Sicelo | doesn't matter. all images are official | 15:58 |
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buterfly | hy | 18:37 |
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AlphaPinky | Hi | 18:42 |
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t_s_o | huh, changing a Maemo4 bug status because of Maemo5?! | 18:55 |
t_s_o | ah, the connection widget license. "never mind" then... | 18:56 |
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AlphaPinky | hello | 19:00 |
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DocScrutinizer2 | pdanek, exactly | 20:25 |
DocScrutinizer2 | for the spring | 20:25 |
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ed_boner | hello freeman! | 20:28 |
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ed_boner | hello to all.. | 20:33 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, hi | 20:34 |
ed_boner | ...hi freeman..i got here:)...whatsup? | 20:34 |
_freemangordon | well, you tell me :) | 20:35 |
ed_boner | hehe | 20:35 |
_freemangordon | anyway, can you try to open the camera lid without OC? | 20:35 |
szopeen | hello | 20:35 |
ed_boner | well..i think you have read my problems | 20:35 |
_freemangordon | I think so, maybe I have missed some part | 20:36 |
ed_boner | ...an...freman man...you got to take it easy on me...i am just a designer...what is oc? | 20:36 |
_freemangordon | AIUI, every time you open the camera lid you got a reboot | 20:36 |
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_freemangordon | aah, OC stands for overclock | 20:36 |
ed_boner | ah..hehe...right | 20:36 |
_freemangordon | so, move your /etc/default/kernel-power to a safe place and reboot the device | 20:37 |
ed_boner | so...i dont know how to mess with profiles so i have always your dsp profile enabled, that sounds good? | 20:37 |
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_freemangordon | enabled as in? | 20:37 |
_freemangordon | hoe do you enable it? | 20:37 |
_freemangordon | *how | 20:37 |
ed_boner | is the profile i have as default | 20:37 |
ed_boner | i do...hm...kernel-config default dsp.. | 20:38 |
_freemangordon | ok, so, open xterm, sudo gainroot | 20:38 |
_freemangordon | cd /etc/default | 20:38 |
ed_boner | done | 20:39 |
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_freemangordon | mv kernel-power kp.bak | 20:39 |
ed_boner | done...so i have now a backup | 20:39 |
_freemangordon | now power off the device | 20:40 |
_freemangordon | ..and power it on | 20:40 |
ed_boner | ok...anyway...is this your job?linux or whatever? | 20:40 |
ed_boner | u sure are a pro | 20:40 |
_freemangordon | well, I am a developer, linux is just a part of the OS-es i am developing for | 20:41 |
ed_boner | u work in a major company? | 20:41 |
szopeen | not many dev jobs entail kernel hacking though | 20:41 |
ed_boner | ok..its on | 20:42 |
_freemangordon | szopeen, I am blessed to have knowledge in both HW ad SW | 20:42 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, now open the lid | 20:42 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, BTW i don't see any crash in /dev/mtd2 produced by KP50. That is very strange. | 20:43 |
_freemangordon | while there is a lot from KP49 | 20:44 |
ed_boner | i have many troubles with k49..mainly because of fking speedpatch i know that now | 20:44 |
szopeen | actually cannot think of a single company that would put that in job description, maybe chinese tablet makers for droid driver development | 20:44 |
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szopeen | or maybe dev for ubuntu | 20:45 |
_freemangordon | szopeen, kernel is not so different from userland (at least for me) | 20:45 |
ed_boner | with that value change u recommended in your pm the crashes seem less frequent.. | 20:45 |
ed_boner | but yes... | 20:45 |
ed_boner | just tested it..it happened ahain | 20:45 |
szopeen | other distros don't really offer jobs and work on community coop afaik | 20:45 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, how long it takes from opening the lid to restart? | 20:46 |
szopeen | _freemangordon: yeah, bulgaria brought quite a few hackers up :) | 20:46 |
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ed_boner | ...so...i have a reboot if i open lid, have n900 in vertical position, and video mode enabled in camera ui | 20:46 |
_freemangordon | szopeen, that was a long time ago, now I see only script-kids | 20:46 |
szopeen | they all moved to states | 20:47 |
ed_boner | just made the test again after the crash opening the lid with the phone horizontal and all is ok | 20:47 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, you had to start with that from the begining | 20:47 |
ed_boner | ? | 20:48 |
ed_boner | what? | 20:48 |
_freemangordon | I am able to reproduce the same here :) | 20:48 |
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ed_boner | ahhhh | 20:48 |
szopeen | btw, int_ua is going to patch his script for nemo .37, so thumb2 should be fixed | 20:48 |
_freemangordon | with correct bug description | 20:48 |
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ed_boner | hehe..damn...not much objective..sorry | 20:48 |
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ed_boner | ok...sorry about that then...anyway..good to know i am not alone and that now that you see it you can help | 20:49 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, thanks, but seems it is not a bug in KP, but in xorg or whoever knows. Anyway, I will look into it. | 20:49 |
ed_boner | ok...thank you freeman | 20:49 |
ed_boner | and...about the red light... | 20:49 |
_freemangordon | wontfix :) | 20:49 |
ed_boner | you also get a = in every reboot? | 20:49 |
_freemangordon | make a script in /etc/event.d | 20:50 |
ed_boner | a 0 | 20:50 |
* int_ua got into chroot to try installing Nemo kernel from RPMs just seconds before the mention | 20:50 | |
_freemangordon | take some of the existing for example | 20:50 |
ed_boner | an...i am getting lost now...are you still talking to me? | 20:51 |
_freemangordon | int_ua, so we now have kernel with thumb errata workaround fixed? | 20:51 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, yeah, I was talking to you | 20:51 |
ed_boner | ok...so....u want me to go to /etc/event.d in filebox and do what? | 20:51 |
_freemangordon | ed_boner, google a bit, ok? | 20:52 |
_freemangordon | or ask on TMO, I really am running out of time :) | 20:52 |
_freemangordon | *I am really | 20:52 |
ed_boner | ok, ok, sorry to bother then, and tks for the help... | 20:53 |
_freemangordon | np | 20:53 |
ed_boner | ..this is a strange world.yhe coding world and everything is strange to me, so i am a bit slow | 20:53 |
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ed_boner | anyway...can i get the red light permanently disabled?...even after reboot? if u have some time maybe you could post some tut on the forum | 20:54 |
ed_boner | for hipernoobs like me:D | 20:55 |
ed_boner | thanks for all your help, see you, bye | 20:57 |
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int_ua | _freemangordon: I will (dist-upgrade in process) try to install Nemo kernel on Ubuntu 12.04 right now, but I'm not sure that it will install or even boot right now. | 21:02 |
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szopeen | that was strange | 21:17 |
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szopeen | not sure if anything got through: mitm attacker didn't set routing for login page where you enter password on a pub network, initial dauth leave two clients reconnecting, one sends 2x more packets than the other, would assumption that it is the attacker be correct? | 21:18 |
int_ua | szopeen: The previous conversation was about KP50, why did you mentioned Nemo kernel? | 21:18 |
szopeen | int_ua: it got thumb2 errata | 21:19 |
szopeen | should make the boots stable | 21:19 |
szopeen | most likely culprit in the fails of ubuntu bootups | 21:19 |
int_ua | szopeen: But I'm doing it in Ubuntu and the talk was about Maemo, was it? | 21:20 |
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szopeen | got 11.10 running quite ok with your script but random reboots did occur | 21:20 |
szopeen | nemo kernel could fix that | 21:20 |
szopeen | seen your patch post at work, fingers crossed so hard it hurts | 21:21 |
int_ua | szopeen: oh, ok, got it :) | 21:21 |
szopeen | with ofono this could be awesome, speed is very impressive | 21:21 |
szopeen | and catalogue even more | 21:21 |
int_ua | szopeen: dist-upgrade is still running (almost typed "ruining") | 21:22 |
szopeen | they got everything arm ready | 21:22 |
szopeen | :D | 21:22 |
szopeen | hope to test it tonight | 21:22 |
szopeen | takes a while (got 1.5h late for work:) | 21:22 |
int_ua | szopeen: Well, I can push new revision right now if you want | 21:23 |
int_ua | but it's still untested | 21:23 |
szopeen | will do the testing :) | 21:23 |
szopeen | btw, would using predownloaded packages be possible? | 21:24 |
szopeen | would shorten the test time quite a bit | 21:24 |
int_ua | szopeen: yes, just place it into the files/ dir | 21:24 |
szopeen | downloading them once per config/revisio would save some time | 21:24 |
szopeen | alright, awesome | 21:24 |
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int_ua | szopeen: you meant RPMs, right? | 21:25 |
szopeen | and debs from buntu | 21:25 |
szopeen | so far ran your script once, so no idea, maybe it does it already | 21:26 |
int_ua | szopeen: pushed revision 58 | 21:26 |
szopeen | yay! thanks! | 21:26 |
int_ua | szopeen: yes, it does :) | 21:26 |
int_ua | szopeen: But I didn't try Nemo part myself yet. | 21:26 |
szopeen | nvm what I said then, was expecting another couple hours (no idea, fell asleep, hence the work-late as morning finish) | 21:26 |
szopeen | will report as soon as get through it (once I get home) | 21:27 |
szopeen | should be doable from N900-N900 setup, could test at work | 21:28 |
szopeen | skip the desktop intermediary altogether :) | 21:28 |
szopeen | hmm... would it be possible to run your script on N900?? no need for second N900 come to think of it | 21:30 |
int_ua | szopeen: But chroot doesn't work on N900 :( | 21:30 |
int_ua | szopeen: CTCP PING? Gone reading about it) | 21:30 |
szopeen | wait, does it require 12.04 for proper sd preparation? | 21:31 |
int_ua | Are you talking about desktop? | 21:31 |
szopeen | been doing it on .04 as the latest SB compatible | 21:31 |
szopeen | yeah | 21:31 |
szopeen | 11.04* | 21:32 |
int_ua | Why would it need 12.04? Actually PanzerSajt had problems with chroot in 12.04_x64 | 21:33 |
int_ua | I'm using 11.10 | 21:33 |
szopeen | if it DLs all items is puts on SD, if the tools are available should be possible on the N900 itself | 21:34 |
szopeen | not sure what chroot problems would be there, hardly know anything about that | 21:34 |
szopeen | thought it might... oh wait, wrong architecture, of course it shouldn't require 12... | 21:35 |
int_ua | it's something about ELF formats difference AFAIU | 21:35 |
szopeen | too tired to think properly, 3h of sleep yet again | 21:36 |
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int_ua | szopeen: What is "SB compatible"?) Did I miss something? | 21:36 |
szopeen | scratchbox | 21:37 |
szopeen | didn't install for me on 11.10 | 21:37 |
szopeen | worked flawlessly on .04, so keeping that on desktop | 21:37 |
szopeen | just in case a opensource cow that doesn't need opengl shows up | 21:38 |
szopeen | compiling some apps can take 10+ hrs on device | 21:38 |
szopeen | 4h spent to save equal amount on first cow encountered | 21:40 |
szopeen | and hoping more in the future, currently at -4h balance :) | 21:40 |
szopeen | going semi afkish | 21:41 |
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Macer | hm | 21:49 |
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DocScrutinizer | hi javispedro | 21:53 |
javispedro | hello | 21:54 |
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int_ua | szopin|afk: What makes appending "afk" better than /AWAY command? | 22:03 |
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szopin|afk | not sure what is the difference? | 22:05 |
szopin|afk | was /away command available 10yrs ago? | 22:05 |
szopin|afk | last time I was using irc more than rare ask a question to dev case scenario that followed | 22:05 |
szopin|afk | how do I /unaway btw? | 22:06 |
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int_ua | don't know, I'm using IRC less then a year myself) | 22:06 |
int_ua | let me check | 22:07 |
int_ua | "/BACK" | 22:07 |
int_ua | and it's still upgrading... | 22:08 |
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Sicelo | int_ua: /away .. don't put any arguments | 22:15 |
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szopin|afk | /back keeps me greyed out :/ | 22:24 |
szopin|afk | was a test | 22:24 |
szopin|afk | oh wait | 22:24 |
szopin|afk | it worked | 22:24 |
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DocScrutinizer | http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html | 22:27 |
bindi | http://bindi.arkku.net/irc/ | 22:29 |
bindi | totally stole that from somewhere | 22:29 |
bindi | but much easier to remember | 22:29 |
int_ua | bindi: That was rude | 22:30 |
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bindi | int_ua: what was? | 22:31 |
int_ua | pre-away nick on the page | 22:31 |
bindi | not mine :D | 22:32 |
int_ua | ) | 22:33 |
Sicelo | true that DocScrutinizer ;) | 22:33 |
int_ua | bindi: And you can't change it? | 22:34 |
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bindi | int_ua: nah, cba | 22:42 |
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DocScrutinizer | it's ruthlessly stolen and copied anyway, now when he changes it, it looks like he's trying to hide the fact ;-D | 22:44 |
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bindi | yes indeed | 22:45 |
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szopin|afk | soooo, my gf said the incredible machine is now angry birds | 22:59 |
szopin|afk | there are similarities, but... why was this game not renewed? | 23:00 |
szopin|afk | is current gamer expected just to click mindlessly | 23:00 |
szopin|afk | oh wait, anyone got tim running in dosbox? mouse problems prolly make it impossible | 23:01 |
DocScrutinizer | is that just me, o is all your comment missing a bit of context so other might get on track with your story? | 23:02 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer, do you know if there is a way how to get omap bootreason and rx51 revision without NOLO atags? | 23:03 |
DocScrutinizer | IOW: "the incredible machine is now angry birds" doesn't make much sense to me, "there are similarities" between what? and what'S that clicking mindless stuff? | 23:04 |
DocScrutinizer | Pali: probably not at all | 23:04 |
DocScrutinizer | actually NFC where bootreason comes from, though I guess it has to be some flag stored to RAM (of any kind, even in cmos clock" | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | doc: TIM figuring how tol get mouse to cheese, basketball in hoop for hours | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | my gf: angrybirds have similar levels | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | requiring thinking and tweaking by user | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | vs wow etc click more to get an achievement medal | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | that's the similarity | 23:06 |
DocScrutinizer | for RX51rev prolly from CAL | 23:06 |
szopin|afk | lack of expectation of user creative input/insight | 23:07 |
szopin|afk | games now have to be finished by halfwits clicking long enough, not thinking | 23:07 |
DocScrutinizer | mhm, once I get the catch that "the incredible machine" == tim = a game... it starts to make a bit more of sense | 23:08 |
szopin|afk | sorry bout that | 23:08 |
int_ua | Anyone knows where does alien gets accepted architectures? Will APT Arch suffice to force converting? | 23:08 |
szopin|afk | still discussing | 23:08 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer, so revision is only some string stored in CAL? | 23:09 |
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DocScrutinizer | might | 23:09 |
szopin|afk | interesting comparison for me, AB got a lot of randomness but a lot of tim planning, quite proud of my gf (and thne fact she played tim:) | 23:09 |
Pali | why there is some string which can be changes? :D | 23:09 |
Pali | or why is rev string needed? | 23:09 |
DocScrutinizer | hmm, some apps are multi-platform | 23:10 |
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DocScrutinizer | LP5523 driver has some special tweaks for pre-summit devices IIRC | 23:11 |
DocScrutinizer | there may be other places where it's needed | 23:11 |
DocScrutinizer | Pali: anyway I'm not aware of any hw bits for rev encoding | 23:13 |
DocScrutinizer | unlike e.g. on Neo FR | 23:13 |
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Pali | I'd like to include some atags directly in u-boot instead reusing from NOLO | 23:13 |
DocScrutinizer | where we had 3 GPIO for hw rev, and ran out of numbering range with rev A8 | 23:13 |
DocScrutinizer | once you understood how atags work, you probably can do. I got NFC again about that stuff, just know they exist ;-) | 23:14 |
DocScrutinizer | bootreason however might also be a genuine BL thing, derived from direct polling of HW (GPIO to powerbutton etc). Might already be too late to detect that when you enter uBoot after NOLO | 23:16 |
DocScrutinizer | bootreason WD for example probably gets reset as soon as NOLO re-initialized WD | 23:17 |
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DocScrutinizer | ooh, bootreason (RTC-)ALARM, a nice one I never tested | 23:21 |
DocScrutinizer | should exist | 23:21 |
DocScrutinizer | at least I tested that it works | 23:22 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer, it is really possible to set up RTC to start phone at specific time?? | 23:23 |
DocScrutinizer | sure | 23:24 |
Pali | is there some app for that? | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer | set an alarm, and power down | 23:24 |
Sicelo | :) | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer | stock clock | 23:24 |
Pali | wow, I did not tried it... | 23:24 |
DocScrutinizer | I did, or I dreamt I did | 23:24 |
Pali | I did not know about it... | 23:24 |
Sicelo | works on nearly an phone :) | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer | yep | 23:25 |
Pali | alarm clock is handled by alarmd daemon which is opensource | 23:25 |
Pali | maybe it can be used for other stuff too | 23:25 |
DocScrutinizer | I'd guess alarm clock has a special function to set RTC ALARM | 23:26 |
DocScrutinizer | not related to alarmd | 23:26 |
DocScrutinizer | but I'm not sure about that | 23:26 |
DocScrutinizer | you may test with alarmed easily | 23:26 |
* DocScrutinizer waves and heads out for dinner | 23:27 | |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer, in kernel source code is bootreason readed from atag, but there is TODO section: Read the boot reason from the OMAP registers | 23:34 |
DocScrutinizer | HAH | 23:34 |
Pali | so maybe it is possible, but nokia removed some proprietary bits... | 23:34 |
Pali | need to ask some omap guru about omap registers... | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | errr... yes | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ;-D | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | or read SPRUF98D | 23:36 |
Pali | read what? | 23:36 |
DocScrutinizer51 | google! | 23:36 |
Pali | ah, you mean omap35x technical reference | 23:38 |
Pali | I already have it :-) | 23:38 |
DocScrutinizer | http://focus.ti.com/lit/ug/spruf98d/spruf98d.pd | 23:38 |
DocScrutinizer | f | 23:38 |
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DocScrutinizer | you also read it, completely? ;-P | 23:39 |
Pali | funny :D | 23:39 |
florian | *g* | 23:39 |
DocScrutinizer | and compared to SPRUF98F, SPRUF98E etc? | 23:39 |
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NIN101 | lol. | 23:42 |
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MrPingu | Found a command for displaying SSID through qbw on TMO =) | 23:51 |
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