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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: ping | 00:31 |
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| ShadowJK | how many are going to mail nokia asking for sauce | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | not interested in Nokia's secret sauce | 00:43 |
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| ShadowJK | oh I just saw some random thread about Nokia withholding PR1.2 kernel again | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | maemo kernel? | 00:43 |
| ShadowJK | N9 presumably | 00:44 |
| ShadowJK | and for some reason it was on .maemo.org | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | on #harmattan I guess your inquiry about sauce would be mor on topic, at least easier to get the context | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | I know Nokia still thinks meego is maemo | 00:45 |
| ShadowJK | It'd be really funny if someone mailed back hand-written (with pencil, on paper) patch for bugs | 00:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Quill-pen. | 00:47 |
| SpeedEvil | On parchment. | 00:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Or a stack of cards. | 00:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Oooh. | 00:47 |
| * SpeedEvil realises he has an easy way to make punchcards now. | 00:47 | |
| SpeedEvil | I have access to someone with a laser cutter. :) | 00:48 |
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| fredddd | How do I purge a package from Maemo using the terminal? | 01:31 |
| fredddd | aptitude purge package style? | 01:31 |
| SpeedEvil | apt-get remove foo | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | isn't it | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 01:33 |
| plate | apt-get autoremove; purgues orphaned deps i thnk | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 01:34 |
| MohammadAG | fredddd: dpkg --purge | 01:38 |
| MohammadAG | Or apt-get --purge remove | 01:38 |
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| fredddd | Thank you. | 01:48 |
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| fredddd | How to show a listo f installed packages with apt-get? | 01:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | NEVER use apt-get autoremove | 02:02 |
| r00t|n900 | wai? | 02:03 |
| fredddd | I seem to be unable to remove an application by the name of the package I installed it with. | 02:04 |
| fredddd | Consdering name.deb I try to apt-get --purge remove name. | 02:05 |
| fredddd | Does not seem to work. | 02:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | because of http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875&highlight=sip | 02:07 |
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| r00t|n900 | docsc: so? if i remove voip support, i lose voip support? that's a silly reason... just set that package to manually installed if you consider it important... | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | pff | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | wil you set it to manually-installed on my device as well, eh? | 02:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | your comment is silly | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot: welcome | 02:12 |
| infobot | It's great to be here! | 02:12 |
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| r00t|n900 | docsc: saying "NEVER use autoremove" just because some non-core package doent have proper dependancies set is silly | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, sure | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | and suggesting to set all needed file to chmod -w prior to a rm -r /* is wise, of course | 02:16 |
| r00t|n900 | . . . | 02:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | especially wise is a suggestion to set a dozen pkgs to manually-installed, to a user that just asked how to purge a single package | 02:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you clearly qualify for a job at any top notch 1st level helpdesk | 02:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw what makes you think rtcom-voip-support is non-core? | 02:36 |
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| * merlin1991 wonders what's the point of pulseaudio on maemo | 10:41 | |
| robbiethe1st | Because. | 10:44 |
| virtuald | it routes the audio | 10:44 |
| merlin1991 | but from where to where? | 10:44 |
| virtuald | from apps to speaker or whatever you connect | 10:45 |
| virtuald | and mics to aps | 10:45 |
| robbiethe1st | Well, it does switch between the internal speakers and earphones and radio... | 10:45 |
| robbiethe1st | and sources from any apps, internal sounds, and radio in | 10:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | all that is not realy an argument for PA | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | alsamixer and alsa devices can do that as well | 14:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | what alsa can't do in a consistent simple way is on-the-fly switching to a just attached BT-headset | 14:03 |
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| Hurrian | the only magic of pulse is audio over network | 15:22 |
| Hurrian | alsa has caught up a long time ago wrt other features | 15:23 |
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| luke-jr | [07:03:53] <DocScrutinizer> what alsa can't do in a consistent simple way is on-the-fly switching to a just attached BT-headset | 15:38 |
| luke-jr | bet it could with a module | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | consistent and simple were terms I picked for a reason there | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | also I heard alsa has audio over network too | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | not that we'd need or even want that for an embedded device | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | the main problem with alsa is the missing comprehensive howto | 15:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or at least I haven't found it yet | 15:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | another annoyance is in the design: each and every plugin has two independent pathes, one for "up" and one for "down", and you can't easily e.g. redirect a "down" stream, that's meant to terminate on a ADC for output, to any "up" stream so you could treat it like an input from e.g. a mic | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | eventually I found plugins like loopback and split | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | but things tend to get complex beyond manageability when you try to use those plugins to handle alsa plugin stacks like you would do with e.g. gstreamer | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | funny enough there's a *significant* exception to the 2-paths_up&down rule: dmix and dsnoop | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | where dmix only supports down streams, while dsnoop only supports up streams | 15:51 |
| RST38h | Doc: Framework that needs HOWTOs, rather than a simple reference, is evil | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 15:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~lart qt | 15:52 |
| * infobot urinates on qt | 15:52 | |
| merlin1991 | :D | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 15:52 |
| RST38h | What is wrong with Qt? I do not need HOWTOs to use Qt | 15:52 |
| RST38h | Or do you mean QtM/QML/etc? | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | first let's talk about your definition of "howto" | 15:53 |
| RST38h | My definition of HOWTO is a documnt that says "copy this example into your code if you want it to do X" | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/howto/whitepaper/ | 15:54 |
| RST38h | That is what most ALSA HOWTOs do | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | or any other random term you prefer | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | a "booklet" describing design rationale and operation principles of ALSA at large, listing all available plugins and tools and what they are meant for and how you typically (or not so typically) use them | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's a howto I meant | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | ideally delivered as a set of manpages plus supplementary doc | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | for ALSA I haven't even found any hint that suggests NOT to hardcode "default" as audiodevice in your app | 15:58 |
| RST38h | Doc: Do you want technical rationale or clinical rationale? | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless you study all the "specs" scattered all over the place that you may find for ALSA, you got no idea why hardcoding "default" is a *very* poor idea | 15:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | evidence: even skype did a hardcoded "default" when they ported their crap to ALSA (after almost a year of development) - that's been the moment when I said "F U skype" and quit my betatester status | 16:01 |
| RST38h | Doc: Technically, ALSA tries to provide a universal way to access every detail of your audio hardware, expressed through a bunch of concepts preferred by its authors | 16:01 |
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| RST38h | Doc: Clinically, ALSA is the result of untreated megalomaniacal tendencies in a bunch of autism sufferers, if autism cause any suffering of course | 16:02 |
| SpeedEvil | It does. | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | constantly | 16:03 |
| RST38h | Doc: One interesting detail you might want to keep in mind is that the ALSA framework is so wide and thorough that you are unlikely to find any hardware that supports it fully, without implementational discrepancies | 16:04 |
| RST38h | Doc: *Especially* if we are talking about hardware not derived from the SoundBlaster | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, you *might* have a bit of a point there | 16:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ALSA assumes full control over the hw playback buffer, which is the reason why e.g. twinklephone that actually uses those control functions for achieving low latency is not working too nicely with e.g a BT headset where your buffers are in a remote hw linked to your "host" via RF and only loosely controllable | 16:07 |
| RST38h | Meanwhile, fun: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=1 | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | while PA has a vastly simplified concept of filters with one input and one output, and each filter has its own clock and spinning freely, so you got no control whatsoever about what's happening at the ADC/hw-fifo at the other end, and PA tries to cope with that by backpropagating "delay estimations" up to source, AIUI | 16:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a frequent objection to ALSA thus is "t doesn't support those "delay esimations". Hell it doesn't need to, as you already know about delay by the stack of plugins you use and their properties | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | you still "see" the hw-fifo on your API end, so there's basically no delay unless some very special plugin introduces a (preferrably then exactly defined) delay, like maybe echo cancellation would do | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course that concept is highly inconvenient for DAC hw that has no such thing like a fifo buffer at all | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | but usually the card driver implements a sw fifo then, for you | 16:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: could you do a lil maintenance fancy on xchat? | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: you're xchat maintainer for maemo, no? | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: http://lwsitu.com/xchat/replace_non-bmp.diff has a patch that looks simple enough, and should probably apply if only you kick out the useless #ifdef win32 | 16:20 |
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| RST38h | Doc: If I manager to bring sb2 back to life and findabit of time. Bookmarking this diff though | 16:32 |
| RST38h | s/manager/manage | 16:32 |
| RST38h | what does it do, anyway? | 16:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | filters 'rougue' utf-8 | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | that makes GTK blow chunks | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: it's kinda stopgap fix until **eventually** the root cause in GTK should get fixed | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | AIUI | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-01-21.log.html#t2012-01-21T01:30:03 | 16:45 |
| RST38h | ah | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: https://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/issues/detail?id=132 | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | so kinda urgency=high | 16:48 |
| RST38h | Sweet | 16:48 |
| * RST38h copies the string, goes off to fish | 16:48 | |
| DocScrutinizer | hehe | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's most likely only 2 or 3 chars in the whole crap | 16:50 |
| Shapeshifter | Is there an easy way of cloning a maemo 5 installation to a new n900? | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | backupmenu | 16:51 |
| Shapeshifter | more than jsut backup. tweaked configs and whatnot | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | *might* work | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | mackupMENU | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/m/b/. | 16:52 |
| Shapeshifter | is that a communitz application? | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | by awesome robbiethe1st | 16:52 |
| Shapeshifter | I'll try it, thanks | 16:52 |
| Shapeshifter | my 1st n900 is dying of old age | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, mine just ripes :-D | 16:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nevertheless getting a third one next month | 16:53 |
| Shapeshifter | ;) t's funny how the slider mechanism is super snappy on thenew one | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | just in case they become sparse resource (which actually happens already) | 16:53 |
| Shapeshifter | I hope my second will last as long as the first, then it's probably time for a different device | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc robbiethe1st actually prepared a fiasco img that has backupmenu preinstalled, so you go right from flashing to restore full system | 16:55 |
| Shapeshifter | I now have this funky device called a umid se | 16:55 |
| Shapeshifter | nice | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, my last nokia phone served me well for almost 10 years | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I hope to get same from N900 | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | next device might be due to technology changes introduced by carriers | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | aka LTE | 16:57 |
| Shapeshifter | I think it's possible but mine is starting to suffer from internal rust | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | you should drool less when working with it ;-D | 16:58 |
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| NIN101 | hmm, putting backupmenu on my rescue initrd, or at least a (rootfs) backupmenu-backup-restorer - would kick ass I think. | 17:01 |
| Shapeshifter | sweaty hands, sweaty pants | 17:01 |
| Shapeshifter | and some tropical climate inbetween | 17:02 |
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| RST38h | Mghm... 12000 US peacekeepers(?) disembarked in Libya | 17:08 |
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| kwtm | infobot seen me? | 17:20 |
| infobot | me <~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 215d 20h 11m 18s ago, saying: 'you guys were teaching me'. | 17:20 |
| kwtm | Oh good I'm audible. | 17:20 |
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| kwtm | infobot seen MohammadAG ? | 17:34 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'mohammadag ', kwtm | 17:34 |
| kwtm | infobot seen DocScrutinizer ? | 17:34 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'docscrutinizer ', kwtm | 17:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~*uptime | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~+uptime | 17:49 |
| infobot | - Uptime for infobot - | 17:49 |
| infobot | Now: 15h 39m 10s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 17:49 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 17:49 |
| infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 17:49 |
| infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen DocScrutinizer51 | 17:50 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer51 is currently on #maemo #harmattan #openmoko #maemo-ssu #openmoko-cdevel, last said: '~dns talk.maemo.org'. | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen DocScrutinizer | 17:50 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer is currently on #maemo (7h 1m) #n9 (7h 1m) #harmattan (7h 1m) #meego (7h 1m) #openmoko (7h 1m) #maemo-ssu (7h 1m) #infobot (7h 1m) #openmoko-cdevel (7h 1m). Has said a total of 114 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen DocScrutinizer'. | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen docscrutinizer | 17:50 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer is currently on #maemo (7h 1m 21s) #n9 (7h 1m 21s) #harmattan (7h 1m 21s) #meego (7h 1m 21s) #openmoko (7h 1m 21s) #maemo-ssu (7h 1m 21s) #infobot (7h 1m 21s) #openmoko-cdevel (7h 1m 21s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen docscrutinizer'. | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot seen DocScrutinizer | 17:51 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer is currently on #maemo (7h 2m 16s) #n9 (7h 2m 16s) #harmattan (7h 2m 16s) #meego (7h 2m 16s) #openmoko (7h 2m 16s) #maemo-ssu (7h 2m 16s) #infobot (7h 2m 16s) #openmoko-cdevel (7h 2m 16s). Has said a total of 116 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: 'infobot seen DocScrutinizer '. | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot seen DocScrutinizer ? | 17:52 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer: i haven't seen 'docscrutinizer ' | 17:52 |
| ShadowJK | it used to reply with something sracastic if you did seen on yourself | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, that's dropegg bot on #qi-hw | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | but obviously the "?" is not helping | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot seen DocScrutinizer? | 17:55 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer is currently on #maemo (7h 5m 53s) #n9 (7h 5m 53s) #harmattan (7h 5m 53s) #meego (7h 5m 53s) #openmoko (7h 5m 53s) #maemo-ssu (7h 5m 53s) #infobot (7h 5m 53s) #openmoko-cdevel (7h 5m 53s). Has said a total of 120 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: 'infobot seen DocScrutinizer?'. | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're not supposed to insert a whitespace between text and punctuation | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems to result in search string extended by that whitestring, so it doesn't match | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | whitespace* | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I just wonder where kwtm went | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | and if kwtm is same as kW | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen kwtm | 18:05 |
| infobot | kwtm <~kwtm1@adsl-75-61-109-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 30m 17s ago, saying: 'infobot seen DocScrutinizer ?'. | 18:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | before and after "default.namehint.extended on" in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf on maemo: http://paste.debian.net/153201/ | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | (obviously topic ALSA ^^^) | 18:59 |
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| strangr | someone plz tell me how to fix digital zoom to a desired level using gdigicam api | 19:22 |
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| strangr | i tried using g_digicam_manager_set_zoom but it didnt work.. | 19:23 |
| strangr | GDigicamCamerabinZoomHelper *z_helper=g_slice_new(GDigicamCamerabinZoomHelper); | 19:23 |
| strangr | z_helper->value=6; | 19:23 |
| strangr | gboolean digital=1; | 19:23 |
| strangr | if(!g_digicam_manager_set_zoom(manager,z_helper->value,&digital,NULL,z_helper)) | 19:23 |
| strangr | qDebug() << "Unable to set zoom level"; | 19:23 |
| strangr | plz help | 19:23 |
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| eeanm | is there a package of qml imports for the n900? | 20:13 |
| eeanm | that I could just depend on? | 20:13 |
| eeanm | I want to save some files, and it seems like a waste of time to write my own plugin | 20:14 |
| eeanm | seems like someone must've done this already :) | 20:14 |
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| luke-jr | anyone else ever experience the cellular just stopping working until reboot? | 20:35 |
| luke-jr | Maemo thinks it's still connected to GPRS forever, so doesn't switch to wifi | 20:35 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 20:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - no | 20:36 |
| SpeedEvil | When it happened to me it knew | 20:36 |
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| ShadowJK | I've never experienced it in that way | 20:39 |
| ShadowJK | data not moving anymore over active gprs connection has happened to me, but disconnecting and reconnecting fixed it | 20:39 |
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| Sicelo | a ping fixes for me sometimes | 20:41 |
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| BCMM | can somebody check an env. variable on their device to see if mine is normal? | 21:19 |
| Sicelo | hope mine is normal enough :P | 21:19 |
| BCMM | is $INTERNAL_MMC_MOUNTPOINT set? what about $MMC_MOUNTPOINT ? | 21:19 |
| BCMM | Sicelo: are you on CSSU? | 21:20 |
| Sicelo | yeah, but not Testing.. instead, Stable | 21:20 |
| BCMM | OK | 21:20 |
| BCMM | are those variable set? | 21:20 |
| Sicelo | first one says /home/user/MyDocs/ | 21:21 |
| Sicelo | second one says /media/mmc1 | 21:21 |
| BCMM | cool, thanks | 21:21 |
| Sicelo | yw | 21:21 |
| BCMM | i haven't got the first one, which is a problem :) | 21:21 |
| BCMM | on CSSU testing | 21:22 |
| BCMM | i wonder if this is, at last, the promised ill consequences for changing my primary shell to bash instead of bb sh | 21:22 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, idk man.. heck, even for env. variable, i had to think a few seconds before i chose 'echo' :P | 21:24 |
| BCMM | oh sorry, should have said | 21:24 |
| BCMM | i mean that was like a year ago or something | 21:24 |
| BCMM | but people did tell me that everything would break | 21:24 |
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| BCMM | does anybody know how af-defines.sh is supposed to work? | 21:47 |
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| BCMM | Sicelo: sorry to bother you again; would you mind checking another var for me? | 21:51 |
| Sicelo | yeah, np | 21:52 |
| BCMM | Sicelo: $OSSO_PRODUCT_HARDWARE | 21:52 |
| Sicelo | RX-51 | 21:53 |
| BCMM | ah | 21:53 |
| BCMM | i don't have that one either, | 21:53 |
| BCMM | thanks a lot | 21:53 |
| Sicelo | maybe it's now an N9 | 21:53 |
| Sicelo | :P | 21:53 |
| BCMM | no it just isn't set at all | 21:56 |
| BCMM | camera-ui is broken because of the first var, some script isn't setting the first var because the second var isn't set, and i have no idea how the second var is supposed to get set | 21:57 |
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| BCMM | hah! got it. | 22:00 |
| merlin1991 | and what was it? | 22:00 |
| BCMM | merlin1991: the camera-ui bug | 22:00 |
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| BCMM | merlin1991: surprisingly, it's caused by xbmc-potato on my system. | 22:01 |
| BCMM | this is so so stupid. | 22:01 |
| BCMM | installed a package from -devel out of curiosity; it created a /scratchbox directory on my n900 | 22:01 |
| BCMM | af-defines.sh doesn't bother checking what sort of hardware you're running if that dir exists | 22:02 |
| merlin1991 | lol | 22:02 |
| BCMM | and therefore assumes you don't have an internal mmc | 22:02 |
| BCMM | and doesn't set env variables camera-ui needs | 22:02 |
| BCMM | i am aware that this is my fault for installing extras-devel stuff | 22:03 |
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| rly | Is there some super standard format for storing contacts that works across tons of platforms and that also works on the N900? | 22:24 |
| NIN101 | maybe vCard, but I have no clue actually. | 22:26 |
| SpeedEvil | vcards? | 22:26 |
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| BCMM | rly: yeah, vcard works | 22:43 |
| BCMM | rly: it does import and export in a compatible way | 22:44 |
| BCMM | when i got mine i copied whole email addressbook from kmail then merged it with contacts read off the SIM card; worked fine | 22:45 |
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| BCMM | rly: it even has an option to import a folder of contacts | 22:47 |
| BCMM | rly: in contacts, menu, get contacts. vcard is often stored with one contact per file | 22:48 |
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| rly | What does an iPhone use as its format? | 22:49 |
| rly | I.e., does Apple care about standards. | 22:49 |
| * Cor-Ai gets the chills | 22:50 | |
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| BCMM | apple moved the ground pin on the AV connector. | 23:06 |
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| jacekowski | rly: apple created quite a few standards you are using today | 23:14 |
| jacekowski | rly: or used to | 23:15 |
| jacekowski | firewire for example | 23:15 |
| jacekowski | ARM (it's in big part apple creation) | 23:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | Umm - Acorn risc machines != apple | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, they just bought it | 23:19 |
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| Arkenoi | Does anyone remember Archimedes? | 23:31 |
| nox- | i do | 23:32 |
| nox- | (tho i never used one) | 23:32 |
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| Arkenoi | Until re-created as Oolite, Acorn's version of Elite was the only "proper" one in existence | 23:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | *sigh* Elite | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | Amiga version was not that bad | 23:36 |
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| Arkenoi | DocScrutinizer, it still was not that good. Acorn version was the only one where you are *not* the center of the universe. I mean, you see ships fighting among themselves. | 23:43 |
| Arkenoi | Now we have Oolite, so you do not need dedicated computer to play it anymore. | 23:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | KI've never seen more than one ship unless they were after me, but that one ship quite easily just went by in remote distance | 23:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actually now I seem to remember more than one ship same time on my radar while still they didn't plan to attack me, but they were no fleet or something | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | wtf is Oolite? | 23:47 |
| Arkenoi | trader ships with fighter escorts were quite common | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | not on Amiga | 23:47 |
| Arkenoi | wow! you mean you never seen it? | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I gave up on gaming with end of Elite :-D | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. after my pentium-II was too fast to run it | 23:48 |
| Arkenoi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo5NTCa6OUY&feature=related | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | also there was linux then, and I never shut that down for DOS | 23:49 |
| Arkenoi | or even better check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7b-ifv4qe4&feature=related | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF is wrong with audio on that clip?? | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | HELL, again an echo after ~3s | 23:52 |
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| trumee | why my /etc/pmconfig not picked up on boot. I have enabled smartreflex in /etc/pmconfig but cat /sys/power/sr_vdd2_autocomp is set to 0? | 23:53 |
| trumee | isnt pmconfig read on bootup? or do i need to manually issue 'kernel-config load default ' manually on bootup. | 23:54 |
| bindi | hmm | 23:55 |
| bindi | any cpu intensive apps for n900? | 23:55 |
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| trumee | ~seen freemangordon | 23:55 |
| infobot | freemangordon <freemangor@85.187.38.5> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 2d 2h 39m 37s ago, saying: 'hi'. | 23:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Arkenoi: fine, but what is that now | 23:56 |
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