IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-12-27

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SpeedEvilJust copy / to a chroot, then apt-get build-essentials to the chroot, and do stuff in that00:01
SpeedEvilworks well00:01
Phlogistique got a problem with my apt-get00:01
PhlogistiqueO have extras-devel activated00:01
Phlogistiqueany idea how to fix?00:02
Phlogistique*I have00:02
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zozeta2so if i can i do in xterm like this for this or  the repo wil not accept apt-get install build-essentails00:08
henkieHello, is it possible to stream audio to the n900 using ad2p?00:09
henkieI have enabled "source" in the bluetooth configuration, but bluez doesnt buy it  :)00:09
zozeta2oohh some elss can we make my music gos on to lestin it online ? like radios00:10
zozeta2build-essentails no package foun00:12
henkieessentials ?00:13
zozeta2ooooo so i have to make apt-get o ?00:13
SpeedEvilyou need to add the tols repository00:14
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SpeedEvilsearch the wiki00:14
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zozeta2repositroy enable for extra-devle00:15
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zozeta2how iam confused ??00:21
zozeta2i donwload now chroot00:21
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zozeta2merline ?00:40
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jack_lthmm navit crashes after adding a navit.xml file00:41
zozeta2ya sure00:41
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henkiehmm, de API seems to support streaming audio to the n900   -->   (chap. AudioSource hierarchy)00:51
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zozeta2hi cant ant work for building deb files ????......01:15
zozeta2the 41mb application01:15
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zozeta2(===== -__-__-fffffff-__--__-=====)01:54
zozeta2how to chroot to apt-get build-essentials02:00
zozeta2aa how dont u tellme ?02:01
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zozeta2hey tell me how to be a n90002:03
zozeta2nitendo where are u help me02:04
zozeta2admin nitdendo help me to chroot on the apt-get build-essential02:04
henkieyou should say 'sudo ... '02:05
henkie   :)02:06
zozeta2thx but done leaf me ill come back wentoread the site02:09
henkieare you using google translate on irc?02:10
zozeta2tarce me u will now and tell me02:10
zozeta2me in the xchat client bye what ?02:11
NIN101no he isn't.02:12
zozeta2so iam on wt02:13
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zozeta2hey iam grinding in the story so when i will chroot ? in picture when door open and get the colurd mentos so give me how to build-essentials or she will not02:16
zozeta2i read the site wt ells02:22
zozeta2aaaaaaaaaaaa ther in top fourms good02:23
zozeta2didnt see it yamaaaan02:23
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zozeta2يا زلمي حكيلي02:36
zozeta2وينكم ؟؟؟ ردو علي02:39
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xevguys, what is common problem for n900? any user here?03:16
luke-jrthere's a lot03:17
luke-jrnothing quite works perfectly03:17
luke-jrfor example, video recording always skips frames03:17
luke-jrMMS (picture texting) doesn't work at all03:18
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Jef91Anyone know if there is a way to get debug output from bootmenu?03:22
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xevluke-jr, thanks for the input.. i just bought 1 ..will arrive tmrow ot next after tmrow..04:52
luke-jrxev: hopefully cheap.04:53
Jef91Anyone know if there is a way to get debug output from bootmenu?04:53
xevi dont use it as phone.. more to internet stuff.. music/video..04:53
luke-jrxev: hopefully you don't want a phone.04:53
xevsurf web and doing some ssh04:53
xevluke-jr, now i'm using 5800  xpressmusic..04:54
xevi hope n900 is better than mine04:54
xevaround $150 cis heap? or expensive?04:55
* Dhraakellian wonders if plasma-active is still considered viable on the n90004:55
Dhraakellianxev: for an n900?04:55
luke-jrxev: $150 is a nice deal04:56
xevDhraakellian, yea..04:56
* Dhraakellian paid $350 a year and a half ago04:56
luke-jrDhraakellian: Plasma Netbook was buggy, haven't tried Active yet04:56
luke-jrxev: where at?04:56
Dhraakellianluke-jr: ...on the n900?04:56
xevluke-jr, malaysia.04:56
Dhraakellianmy µUSB port broke off months ago04:56
luke-jrDhraakellian: I run Gentoo on my N900.04:57
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DhraakellianI only recently got one soldered back on (and then bought some beer for the guy who did the soldering)04:57
xevluke-jr, really? you can do that?04:57
Dhraakellian...but my cell hardware still isn't working04:57
luke-jrxev: why not?04:58
xevhow about battery usage?04:58
DhraakellianI noticed in the tear-down for the USB port reinstallation that I'm missing one of the tiny phillips screws04:58
luke-jrxev: battery usage seems better under Gentoo than Maemo ;)04:58
Dhraakellianwould that cause/contribute to "communications errors"?04:58
Dhraakellianwhat with contacts not being properly held in place?04:58
xevmaemo how long usually? on stanby ?04:58
xevavarage usage?04:58
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* Dhraakellian is guessing not, since it's no longer an intermittant thing like it was back in march–june or so04:59
xevhow about meego?04:59
robbiethe1stIt can last about a week with communication off and nothing sucking up CPU time. Realistically, it should last about a day with a few hours of browsing etc.04:59
luke-jrxev: Meego is dead04:59
robbiethe1stInstant messengers etc, however, will definately suck battery05:00
xevi'm going to use maemo first.. default os..05:00
xevthen going to learn more on gentoo..05:01
luke-jrI'm still working on getting Gentoo 100% usable05:01
xevother than that? what os i can use on n900?05:01
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M4dm4x Can anyone here help. Ive been trying to create a bootable sdcard partition on my n900 (linux smart-phone) but the partition keeps going to a read only file. I'm trying to install NITDroid with this guide ---->  <---- but it's not working, I hane tried # nitdroid and # nitdroid-help.. no answer.07:32
M4dm4xplease im so close.07:34
M4dm4xbeen up all night07:35
M4dm4xread everything i can find.. im not trying to troll07:36
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mihuHi. I recently reflashed my N900. Today I noticed that I when I wanted to download some missing stuff from Ovi store (launched via "Store" from the menu) I could do that for the free applications without any kind of login. Nice. It would be even nicer, if I could store the .deb packages that are downloaded by the application manager, so that I can reinstall the from the command line the next time.11:46
mihuApparently the files are downloaded to a temporary location, but deleted immediately after download. Any ideas how to get the files anyway?11:46
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ruskiemihu, it's do-able11:53
ruskiemihu, can actually generate a package from the installed system11:53
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ruskie <-- mihu that's the script... store it into genbreakrepo chmod +x it you need bash and gnu sed on the device then you can run ./genbreakrepo gen_backup package_name11:55
ruskieand it should produce a package11:55
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psycho_oreosor you can hack the apt-get to make it download to a certain location which I think also prevents downloaded deb files being deleted after its being installed. Though really you should seek a long term solution such as using something like backupmenu by robbiethe1st. There are programs which has a fair few dependencies if not more.. without installing them in the correct order produces errors and you can't simply apt-get them without running a local repos12:04
psycho_oreository or some sort.12:04
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mihuruskie: Thanks for the link. Hm, but I think it's nicer to have the original package.12:20
mihupsycho_oreos: The download lands in /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/partial/ If the download is big enough and it takes some time to install it, I think I can just copy it from there.12:21
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badcloud_how to shut off im sound? even when volume is jacked all the way down, it interferes with fm radio12:27
Sicelosettings > profiles12:27
badcloud_Sicelo: turned down volume via Settings > Profiles12:28
badcloud_radio feed is still interrupted12:29
Sicelovolume for IM?12:29
Siceloi have no idea then. u may want to try C Fmradio. tends to have less interruptions12:30
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badcloud_have not found any setting to disable sound for incoming im12:30
badcloud_only to change soundfile/volume12:31
badcloud_looked in Conversations and Settings > IM Accounts12:31
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Sicelothe next best thing would probably be Silent profile12:32
Siceloi'm sure if u dig into the configuration files u might find something12:33
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badcloud_Sicelo: thanks12:34
badcloud_silent mode mutes the radio :P12:34
badcloud_but I'll do some digging :)12:35
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Sicelo0.0 omg. maemo is weird12:38
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mihuI wanted to "snag" a download that is done from the Ovi store. I found out that the download ends up in /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache, but is deleted afterwards. Because the installation takes time, you can copy the .deb from that location during the install. I used the following one-liner to achieve that. It will try to copy any .deb file from that directory every second and will stop if it succeeded.13:02
mihucd /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache; while [ 1 ]; do cp *.deb /home/user/MyDocs/; if [ "$?" -eq 0 ]; then echo "done"; break; fi; echo "waiting"; sleep 1; done13:02
mihuYou can launch the one-liner from the terminal, then do the install and after the install, the .deb file can by found in /home/user/MyDocs/13:02
DocScrutinizer#maemo:298. #meego:28013:06
DocScrutinizermihu: (untested!) while inotifywait -e modify -t 240; do cp -a /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache_snatchit; done13:12
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RST38hDoc: #harmattan:16513:27
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DocScrutinizer#harmattan never been a competitor for this chan, it's explicitly complementary to here13:41
DocScrutinizerregarding what #harmattan is meant for, 165 is an amazing number13:42
RST38hthat is what I meant, actually :)13:43
DocScrutinizerbtw my minimum highlight regex still is "docsc.*\:"13:44
DocScrutinizeror joerg13:44
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DocScrutinizeror "doc.*er\:"13:46
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DocScrutinizerdoc and docs is a poor choice for highlighting13:47
hiemanshuwhats up doc :P13:47
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RST38hDoc: "docsc" sounds scatological, I would not do something like this13:49
DocScrutinizeranyway it works :-D13:49
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Minzeis it normal that the images i take with fcamera are only 640x480 large?18:46
fw190Minimize: rather not18:46
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fw190I do not remember if there are any settings about that but probably yes18:46
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Minzedidnt find any yer :S18:48
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e-yes!seen crevetor21:42
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DocScrutinizere-yes: eh?21:43
DocScrutinizer~attack e-yes21:43
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing e-yes21:43
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infobotmethinks mompl is a stupid short form for "moment please"21:44
infobotOld enough, yes please, my place.21:45
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BluesLeee-yes: i guess ics is ready for the n9, right?21:49
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e-yesBluesLee, if any one coocked it for n9, may be21:51
e-yesbtw, may be someone could clarify... what's SGX revision for omap3440? 121 or 125?21:52
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BluesLeee-yes: i read on tmo that there will be an initiative to port it, so far there is no alternative os on the n9 so far, no working boot loader ...21:54
e-yes, doesn't this work?21:57
BluesLeee-yes: thanks for the link21:58
e-yesBluesLee, n9 still uses some proprietary crap for telephony/signalling like maemo do (or some version of ofono)?22:01
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BluesLeee-yes: i guess its proprietary as always but i am not sure22:03
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BluesLeee-yes: above link shows alternative booting using the flasher like for meego de/ce using a repartition of the emmc22:04
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DocScrutinizere-yes: ifconfig|grep phonet22:05
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NIN101semi related to this channel: at the 28c3 there will start a talk in a few minutes titled "Defending mobile phones". Stream: ; Schedule:
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petteriNIN101: thanks22:53
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badcloud_video game music player?23:07
badcloud_can't manage to install deadbeef23:07
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badcloud_anyone have any media player recommendations for the n900?23:10
SpeedEvilI use cuteexplorer + clicking on stuff23:10
SpeedEvilTehre is certain to be better ways23:10
badcloud_I see23:11
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DocScrutinizerooooh, 28C3, I almost forgot about it23:11
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badcloud_DocScrutinizer51: huh?23:13
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DocScrutinizer[2011-12-27 21:47:39] <NIN101> semi related to this channel: at the 28c3 there will start a talk in a few minutes...23:13
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badcloud_there's gotta be a media player that supports video game music on maemo...23:17
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FIQbadcloud: MIDI?23:18
FIQhmm, badcloud_ is probably a better nick to highlight23:18
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badcloud_FIQ: yeah, sorry. I'm away from my laptop23:19
badcloud_um, not midi23:19
FIQwhat format then?23:19
badcloud_hold on, I'll find the extension/format23:19
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badcloud_FIQ: for example23:20
FIQProbably not, but I don't know23:22
badcloud_thanks anyhow23:22
FIQa quick google shows nothing for n90023:22
FIQtried searching in the repositories?23:22
badcloud_i.e. how do I search in repos23:26
badcloud_via package manager you mean?23:27
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FIQbadcloud: Should be possible there yes23:29
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NIN101that talk was cool.23:46
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Jef91My n900 is refusing to reflash >.<23:52
Jef91Still just sits at no USB device found23:52
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Jef91I was dicking around with uboot and boot menu - could those have broken it beyond a point where I can reflash?23:53
Jef91I'm getting this -
Jef91it appears to see the n90023:56
Jef91but then doesn't flash23:56
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