| Jef91 | anyone have any idea what might be wrong there? | 00:00 |
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| Sicelo | check out the section about fool-proof method at.. | 00:08 |
| Sicelo | ~flashing | 00:08 |
| infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:08 |
| Sicelo | also make sure your cable is good | 00:08 |
| Sicelo | btw, why are u flashing old image? | 00:09 |
| Jef91 | Flashing the EMMC image | 00:11 |
| Jef91 | and then the latest image sicelo | 00:11 |
| Jef91 | let me try a different micro usb cable - thats a good idea | 00:11 |
| javispedro | Jef91: you are trying to flash emmc | 00:12 |
| javispedro | flash fiasco first | 00:12 |
| Sicelo | also, u will need to flash rootfs as well | 00:12 |
| Sicelo | gosh. gprs sucks | 00:12 |
| Jef91 | what is fiasco? | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | I've always jsut flashed RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin | 00:13 |
| javispedro | then you've never flashed =) | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | followed by RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin | 00:13 |
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| javispedro | ah | 00:13 |
| Sicelo | :P | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | Is that wrong? | 00:13 |
| javispedro | the later is the rootfs | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | It's always worked in the past | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | Yea... | 00:13 |
| javispedro | when your system is hosed, it is wrong. | 00:13 |
| Jef91 | I hosed the system | 00:14 |
| Jef91 | not the flashing order | 00:14 |
| javispedro | if you really want to leave it "clean" you will need to flash rootfs, then emmc, then rootfs again (unless you're quickly enough to flash emmc before letting it boot) | 00:14 |
| Jef91 | different cable didn't do it | 00:15 |
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| Sicelo | different ports? U-key? and, hoping u don't have issue with N900 usb to start with :) | 00:16 |
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| Jef91 | flashing rootfs first worked | 00:18 |
| Jef91 | and this is a new n900 sicelo | 00:18 |
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| Jef91 | my old one had a dead USB port :( | 00:18 |
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| Sicelo | ok | 00:21 |
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| mihu | Hi. My N900 is connected via USB networking to my PC, no WiFi connection. I have setup networking on both sides so my PC and the N900 can speak to each other. Now I have written a Qt application which uses a QTcpSocket to connect to a service on my PC. While the connection and data transfer works fine, the call to connectToHost() brings up the "Select connection" dialog because apparently the N900 thinks that the USB networking connect | 10:59 |
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| xev | guys, its normal to see orange led blinking while charging.. drained battery... and n900 cant turn on | 11:24 |
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| merlin1991 | mihu: see menuentry "OpenELEC.tv debug" { | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | insmod ext2 | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | set root=(hd0,6) | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | linux /openelec/KERNEL boot=/dev/sda6 debugging textmode quiet | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | } | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | arf | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | mihu: see http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking#Using_USB_networking_for_Maemo_applications | 12:27 |
| merlin1991 | copy fail :D | 12:27 |
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| mihu | merlin1991: Ah, thank you. That's what I have been looking for. | 12:28 |
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| Psi | has there been any update recently that might cause a n900 to randomly switch off | 13:18 |
| psycho_oreos | doubt it, then again it also depends on your setup | 13:20 |
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| Psi | twice in the last 2 weeks ive found my phone switched off | 13:23 |
| Psi | when it boots up it says it crashed and custom kernel settings havnt been loaded | 13:24 |
| psycho_oreos | probably ran out of power and/or faulty battery | 13:24 |
| Psi | isnt flat battery, as when i start it again battery is full and it runs for a whole day | 13:25 |
| Psi | could be bad battery connection | 13:25 |
| psycho_oreos | sometimes dmesg maybe useful | 13:25 |
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| Pali | ping X-Fade | 15:52 |
| Pali | ~seen X-Fade | 15:52 |
| infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'gri: Security through obscurity is always a false sense.'. | 15:52 |
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| RST38h | DocS: Here? | 16:02 |
| RST38h | DocScrutinizer: You will absolutely love this one: http://media.scmagazineus.com/documents/23/1-main_5531.pdf | 16:03 |
| RST38h | (may want to scroll past the formal pages) | 16:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | makes me feel nausea, each time I read such stuff | 16:12 |
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| RST38h | DocS: Lots of nausea lately =( | 16:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | guly: no | 17:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | guly: because nobody knows what you need to feel helped | 17:01 |
| guly | <usb.h> | 17:02 |
| NIN101 | the answer is 42 eh, libusb-dev. | 17:02 |
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| guly | sure, i messed repository..thanks | 17:06 |
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| minze | hi there is there a possibility to gps-log found wifi-spots? | 17:08 |
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| minze | i tried it with kismet, but it didnt work sadly :( | 17:08 |
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| minze | and is there a tool that regulary updates the wifi-list? | 17:16 |
| minze | i mean lets say, every 5sek for example :) | 17:17 |
| guly | wifeye | 17:17 |
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| guly | *wifieye | 17:17 |
| minze | is it faster than the normal hildon-app? | 17:17 |
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| guly | it uses fancy color, so yes :) | 17:18 |
| minze | lol color doesnt matter, it could run in the console if it updates faster :D | 17:18 |
| minze | ahh everything i need :) | 17:19 |
| minze | even displays the strenght :) | 17:19 |
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| minze | love it already :) | 17:21 |
| minze | would be the killer-app if it would log the gps-data to the wifispots | 17:22 |
| guly | log at all is missin, IIRC :( | 17:22 |
| minze | yep sadly :( | 17:23 |
| minze | kismet should be able to do the job too, but didnt work here, will play around a bit with it, when i get some spare time :) | 17:23 |
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| minze | and what would you recommend as minimalistic gpslogger? | 17:25 |
| minze | just for track-logging, withouth maps and anything | 17:25 |
| Sicelo | location-test-gui | 17:25 |
| minze | it it possible to save it to lets say, a gpx-file? | 17:26 |
| ShadowJK | gpsjinni does that, iirc | 17:26 |
| minze | needs to be minimalistic and fast | 17:27 |
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| zsw | On my old blackberry, I could press a button, type a string (which ended up being the subject) and hit send. It would send an email to a predetermined address. I used it for reminders when I was out ang about. | 17:51 |
| zsw | If there a way I could add an icon to the desktop of my n900 to get the same functionality? | 17:51 |
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| NIN101 | basically if one would write a program like that, yes. Or something with that http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#New_e-mail | 18:10 |
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| zsw | NIN101: So would I change the "mailto:" to "mailto:foo@bar.com" ? | 18:18 |
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| NIN101 | I think so. | 18:19 |
| zsw | I wonder where the subject goes? I don't really need to worry about the body. | 18:19 |
| guly | maybe mailto:foo@bar.com?subject=beerplease ? | 18:20 |
| NIN101 | as far as I understand it, modest (the e-mail program) will open. | 18:21 |
| zsw | ahh ok. I'll fiddling. Thanks for the direction. | 18:22 |
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| Jiri | could someone help me to installa power kernel to my n900 | 20:31 |
| Jiri | i try to install it from app manager but it doesn't work that way. I managed to get rooth but i don't know which command i should use to install power kernel | 20:32 |
| Sicelo | what happens when u try it from app manage? | 20:33 |
| Jiri | it says that it cannot install this program in finnish | 20:33 |
| Jiri | some kind of conflict | 20:34 |
| Sicelo | conflict with which program/package? | 20:36 |
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| Jiri | jees | 20:38 |
| Jiri | with the package | 20:39 |
| Jiri | kenel modelus-maemo | 20:39 |
| Jiri | kernel-maemo are the this are confict | 20:39 |
| Jiri | easy question how i can check which pr i am using at the moment | 20:42 |
| Sicelo | u can see that from going into Settings. at the bottom it says About Product. tell us that | 20:43 |
| badcloud_ | how do I change the shell environment for osso-xterm to bash? | 20:44 |
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| Jiri | it only tell my the version is that the right one 21.2011-38-1 | 20:45 |
| Sicelo | iirc that's not so safe badcloud_ | 20:45 |
| Sicelo | Jiri: u are on latest pr | 20:45 |
| badcloud_ | Sicelo: ok | 20:45 |
| Sicelo | btw, i think u have some kernel power already Jiri. what does `uname -a` say? | 20:45 |
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| badcloud_ | good to know :) | 20:46 |
| Sicelo | i'm not 100% sure badcloud_, but i kinda remember it being said here | 20:46 |
| Jiri | 2.6.28-omap1 | 20:46 |
| Jiri | is that some kind of power kernel | 20:48 |
| Sicelo | ok. i don't remember ever having that error about conflict in that situation. which Kernel are u trying to install? | 20:48 |
| Sicelo | no. u are on original/stock kernel | 20:49 |
| Jiri | http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power | 20:49 |
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| Jiri | app list i have tried all.. but linux kernel for power user | 20:49 |
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| Sicelo | is that the one u are installing? linux kernel for power user? | 20:51 |
| Jiri | yes | 20:52 |
| Jiri | linux kernel for power user | 20:52 |
| Jiri | i have some times some problem with my internal memory i wondering if that the problem... | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | weird. u can install kernel from command line (i did) but others prefer u do kernel stuff via app manager | 20:53 |
| Jiri | well how i do that? | 20:53 |
| Sicelo | at your own risk ;) | 20:54 |
| Sicelo | apt-get install kernel-power | 20:55 |
| Jiri | well i tyr one more time reboot | 20:55 |
| Jiri | and if not working i will then try that | 20:55 |
| Sicelo | it should also force installation of kernel-power-modules, and kernel-power-flasher | 20:56 |
| Jiri | should i do that first before installing power kernel | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | what first? | 20:57 |
| Jiri | yes which one first ? | 20:57 |
| Jiri | kernel-power-modules | 20:57 |
| Jiri | kernel-power-flasher | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | apt-get install kernel-power will install the kernel and the dependencies automatically :) | 20:57 |
| Jiri | or power kernel | 20:57 |
| Jiri | ok | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | before u put in your yes, just make sure the other 2 packages will be installed | 20:58 |
| Jiri | when i am installing this power kernel should i have it connected to usb? | 20:58 |
| Sicelo | better not. i don't think it makes a difference, but it doesn't hurt to be safe | 20:59 |
| Jiri | ok | 21:00 |
| Jiri | one more thing i have extras devel on | 21:03 |
| Jiri | should i disable these? | 21:03 |
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| Jiri | and some reason it takes very long time to load this app manager list | 21:04 |
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| Sicelo | iirc that's where kernel is. so i think u should leave it on. yes, it takes time, but that's 'normal' | 21:05 |
| Jiri | i have disable extras | 21:05 |
| Jiri | but the extras devel is on | 21:05 |
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| Jiri | sicelo is there way to make backup if something goes wrong i can allways reset this? | 21:09 |
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| Sicelo | normal backup application. u can also use robbiethe1st's BackupMenu. very good | 21:10 |
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| Jiri | but i mean kernel and the whole thing | 21:16 |
| Sicelo | backupmen is your tool | 21:17 |
| Sicelo | *backupmenu | 21:17 |
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| Jiri | ok i manged to make bakcup | 21:58 |
| Jiri | so if something goes horibly wrong i can allways but back this backup which i just made ? | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yes | 22:03 |
| Jiri | 20111228-1949-optfs.tar | 22:04 |
| Jiri | 20111228-1949-rootfs.tar | 22:04 |
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| Jiri | with these two files i don't need anything else ? | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | except yur stuff on MyDocs, no | 22:04 |
| Jiri | yes but i allready backup these files with normal nokia suite | 22:05 |
| Jiri | ok so now to power kernel installation | 22:05 |
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| Jiri | DocScrutinizer51 or do you know why i could not install this power kernel normally with app manager | 22:06 |
| Jiri | it says something about confict in kernel-module | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | omm, sth went wrong on buildserver IIRC | 22:07 |
| Raimu | Anyone ever use Dropbear SSH on the n900? | 22:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | probably powerkernel is best installed from local dpkg files with dpkg -i | 22:08 |
| Jiri | รถ? what? | 22:08 |
| Raimu | The binary in the extras repos is old now, last update to dropbear at large was this November. | 22:08 |
| Raimu | The author said he hasn't got a maemo dev setup anymore. | 22:09 |
| Raimu | Anyone interested to port the latest ver. ? | 22:09 |
| NIN101 | the repo is full of outdated software... for example openssh too, so if you want the newest version, compile them yourself. | 22:10 |
| Raimu | Yuo. | 22:10 |
| Raimu | *yup | 22:10 |
| Raimu | Gathering courage to do it - never compiled anything before save for something way back in 2000. | 22:11 |
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| Jiri | thank you Sicelo very much | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | yw ;) | 22:45 |
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| user__ | hi there :) | 23:00 |
| user__ | got some questions here regarding n900 and security :) | 23:01 |
| user__ | is there a possibility to savely wipe the n900 memory? | 23:01 |
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| user__ | and did yet anyone try to fully encrypr n900's partitions or atleast the partitions which contains sensitive data? | 23:03 |
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| NIN101 | I encrypted myDocs and the home partition | 23:06 |
| andre__ | I think truecrypt is available for the N900 | 23:07 |
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| user__ | NIN101: how long did that take, and did it affect performance badly? | 23:11 |
| user__ | and did you do it yourself, or is there a tutorial i could check therefore? | 23:12 |
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| NIN101 | encrypting mmcblk0p2 (home) is kinda PITA, but possible. it didn't affect performance badly, not noticeable in daily use for me at least. yes, I did it myself, and there is a "tutorial" I wrote: http://216.189.8.164/N900/crypto/encrypted_home/README and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68419 | 23:15 |
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| Jiri | is there easy way to share my internet connection with bluetooth with n900? | 23:19 |
| user__ | bluetooth tethering? | 23:21 |
| user__ | not quite sure but i guess "mobile-hotspot" does that | 23:22 |
| user__ | NIN101: i'd have to say thanks already for that tutorial :) | 23:22 |
| NIN101 | yw | 23:24 |
| user__ | hmm what happens if i have to reflash and i got a encrypted home partition other than loosing my data? | 23:25 |
| SpeedEvil | You restore from backups. | 23:26 |
| NIN101 | reflashing combined with an encrypted partition is hell on earth. | 23:26 |
| NIN101 | at least it boots. | 23:26 |
| user__ | a bit more detailed please :) | 23:28 |
| NIN101 | well ok I did it once, you basically just have to modify the bootscripts again and install cryptsetup again. The only thing why it is help is that your home partition obviously is not mounted and you are short on space for some other stuff. | 23:28 |
| NIN101 | s/help/hell | 23:28 |
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| user__ | urghh :S | 23:31 |
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| user__ | doesnt sound that funny | 23:31 |
| NIN101 | but hey, therefore you just stop fucking up your system :-). | 23:31 |
| user__ | no more messing around, no more fun :( | 23:32 |
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| user__ | before i think again about (almost)-full-systemencryption, is there a method to securely erase the n900's memory | 23:39 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 23:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - yes for the onenand chip | 23:40 |
| SpeedEvil | no for the emmc | 23:40 |
| user__ | i've tried photorec and recovered a hell of a lot of stuff | 23:40 |
| SpeedEvil | For the SD - just remove and eat. | 23:40 |
| user__ | do they really taste like chicken? | 23:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Depends what's on the car.d | 23:40 |
| user__ | does it go well with hot salsa sauce :P | 23:41 |
| user__ | kidding, there is really no possibility to savely wipe the MyDocs folders other than making some n900 chip BBQ :)? | 23:43 |
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| SpeedEvil | No. | 23:44 |
| SpeedEvil | The emmc is _not_ a block device. | 23:45 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a lot of flash chips, connected to a controller over which you have no insight, pretending to be a block device. | 23:45 |
| SpeedEvil | You can never tell if it will ever erase a block that it detects has failed, for example. | 23:45 |
| user__ | true. but you could check how many files you still be able to recover? | 23:46 |
| user__ | with photorec for example? | 23:47 |
| HyperSnyper | that would depends on the recovery software | 23:47 |
| HyperSnyper | prob afew methods of recovering data | 23:47 |
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| user__ | so encrypt the possible to be encrypted "partitions" would make more sense? | 23:49 |
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| SpeedEvil | user__: Zero | 23:49 |
| SpeedEvil | user__: Fragments of files may be recoverable by dissasembly of the SD | 23:50 |
| SpeedEvil | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmc1 | 23:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | or whatever it is will wipe it completely from a user-POV | 23:50 |
| user__ | hmm what are you referring to as SD? | 23:51 |
| SpeedEvil | the removable microSD | 23:51 |
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| user__ | hmm got none here atleast, just talking about the internal memory | 23:52 |
| SpeedEvil | Above goes for both SD and internal eMMC - it's just you can remove the SD | 23:53 |
| user__ | or do you want to say, that it would be the better solution to simply saving files on the sd as it is removable | 23:53 |
| user__ | ahh i c :) | 23:53 |
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| user__ | nevertheless, theres still the question why should i benefit of smth like that if just simple opening a file written to the sd, would move it to the tmp | 23:55 |
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| user__ | folder, therefore back to the internal :( | 23:56 |
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| user__ | guess the n900 isnt quite save, regarding the easiness to recover sensitive data :( | 23:58 |
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