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paulyhey i got a N900!03:18
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luke-jrPauly007: I'm sorry.03:19
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Pauly007lol03:19
luke-jrlet me guess, you wanted a phone?03:20
Pauly007bought it used anyone know how to make the icons in the menu the default order?03:20
luke-jrreflash it03:20
Pauly007there all different order03:20
luke-jrbut first make an image and search it for credit card numbers03:20
Pauly007i did, just not the emmc03:21
luke-jryou're not under the assumption that there's some sensible order to icons, are you?03:21
Pauly007i don't understand?03:21
luke-jrwhy does the 'default order' matter?03:22
luke-jrI think it's pretty much random03:22
Pauly007no its not03:22
luke-jrdeterministic random probably, but that's still random03:22
Pauly007can't you do it by hitting the thing in settings?03:23
luke-jrdoubt it03:23
luke-jrPauly007: so what exactly were you hoping to use N900 for?03:23
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luke-jrpauly007_:  so what exactly were you hoping to use N900 for?03:26
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pauly007_somthing til i get galaxy note or n903:26
luke-jr03:26
pauly007_hey should i try restore factory settings?03:27
pauly007_??03:27
luke-jrin other words, you wanted a phone03:27
pauly007_ya03:27
pauly007_i guess03:27
luke-jrN900 isn't a phone :P03:27
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pauly007_i had like 3 of them so far03:27
pauly007_cant find nothing better03:27
luke-jrwhat makes you think N9 or Note are better?03:28
pauly007_more hardware specs03:28
pauly007_im gonna brb03:28
luke-jrcrappy touchscreens03:28
pauly007_so no idea how to fix my icons03:34
pauly007_??03:34
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luke-jrpauly007_: they're not brokne03:52
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pauly007_?04:03
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auenfpauly007_04:06
auenfhttp://www.techans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Menu1.png04:06
auenfhttp://www.techans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Menu6.png04:06
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auenfxterminal is the last of the preinstalled apps04:06
auenfthen after that is either alphabetical, or installed order depending on what mood the device is in04:07
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infobotHey, thanks for that - I haven't had idea of such functions07:54
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kwtm2Any francophones who can help me with a natural-sounding way to translate French?  I want to say "I want to set my thoughts on paper."  "Mettre au papier"?  Ca se dit en francais>?08:21
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swiftkickdoes anyone recommend upgrading an n900 to mamemo6/meego?09:08
swiftkickor wait09:08
swiftkickis that moblin09:08
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swiftkicki have a relatively virgin n900 and basic familiarity with linux. checked out the apps available on the default repository, not bad. what can i do with it besides run aircrack-ng?09:11
swiftkickbesides the basic clock, calendar, email, internet, is there anything fun that people have found to do with the n900 or maemo09:12
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swiftkicklike how can i activate the face-facing webcam09:19
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Sicelo~flashing09:25
infoboti guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware09:25
Siceloswiftkick: maemo6 won't work on N900. u can use Meego though.09:26
Sicelofront camera is switched on automatically for video calls via voip/sip. u can install Mirror if u want to use it at any time. u can also use mplayer/gstreamer to stream video from it. see the wiki09:30
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swiftkickSicelo: thanks! is there any reason to try meego09:33
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savidaviCiao!12:09
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BCMMis there a flashblock package that works with the current maemo browser?13:02
BCMMi'm getting "not compatible with MicroB 3.5"13:02
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Paliping X-Fade14:07
Pali~seen X-Fade14:07
infobotx-fade is currently on #maemo (56m 31s) #harmattan (56m 31s) #meego (56m 31s), last said: 'The surface is different yes.'.14:07
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lardmanhas anyone used Snuggle?16:16
gggsis it conceivable possible for the N900 to generate morse audio when it receives an SMS, depending on contact? ie "FR" for fred, "BI" for bill etc16:17
lardmanI imagine so16:17
gggslardman: I've found an application allowing custom ringtones, nothing for custom sms let alone morse tone generation16:18
lardmanwhat's the application for custom ringtones?16:18
lardmanbtw I didn't say there's one extant, just that I imagine it's readily possible to create your own16:20
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gggsit was called "Custom Ringtones", never tried it however ymmv16:24
lardmanI was just wondering how it worked as afair it wasn't possible to override the default one that the dialer generates16:25
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iluminator101how do i find out my public ip from n900 the last time i was online using wifi?17:33
iluminator101also how do you view microB browsing history17:33
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ShadowJKswipe right-left, tap comlete history17:35
ShadowJKdoesn't work in bookmarks view17:35
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iluminator101shadowJK that worked but i am trying to get ip from the last time i was online?17:48
iluminator101shadowJK that worked but i am trying to get ip from the last time i was online from offline mode17:48
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iluminator101where would the saved browsing history be saved at?17:55
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infobotx-fade <~xfade@d5152FFD8.static.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 6h 11m 9s ago, saying: 'The surface is different yes.'.19:52
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luke-jranyone have any idea if the N900's phonet GPS protocol works with other phonet devices?19:58
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BCMM_Heh, using Gnumeric on the n900. the save icon is a hard drive, not a floppy disk21:18
BCMM_that icon has to remain one technological step behind the device it runs on21:18
Macerlol!21:29
Maceri don't think people would understand a nand chip icon ;)21:29
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luke-jrIMO, "Save" is an obsolete function21:40
luke-jrtoo bad the replacement hasn't really been implemented yet21:40
luke-jrevery file should keep a full history of changes, and "Save" should be replaced with "Tag this revision" :P21:40
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DocScrutinizerfirst I thought you start trolling again, but yur comment is actually a very sound one21:54
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luke-jr:p21:59
luke-jrit'd be even better if it integrated with git nicely ;)21:59
ZogG_laptopsup22:00
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ZogG_laptopBCMM_: hey22:00
BCMM_good day22:00
BCMM_i'm afraid i am literally just about to go and cook22:00
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ZogG_laptopBCMM_: missing you, come to #harmattan =)22:03
ZogG_laptopgood day and happy hanuka22:03
ZogG_laptopsup guys22:04
badcloudarrrrg nokia + ext2/322:05
badcloudwant... kill22:05
ZogG_laptopanyone here can help with garage and building for it?22:06
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ZogG_laptophttps://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/waze_0.0.4/22:08
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badcloudwhat other os's can be booted off of the n900?22:30
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badcloudother than android and meego I mean22:32
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badcloudanyone?22:34
NIN101distris? debian, gentoo, whatever.22:34
badcloudNIN101: thanks22:36
badclouddidn't know gentoo could be booted off it22:36
luke-jrbadcloud: Gentoo22:36
luke-jrbadcloud: if you want to work on it with me, ping me :P22:37
badcloudluke-jr: well, ultimately, I'd like arch22:37
badcloudbut thanks for the offer22:37
luke-jrbah22:37
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badcloudluke-jr: isn't there a crap-ton of compiling involved in gentoo?22:38
ZogG_laptoparch is overrated22:38
luke-jrbadcloud: sometimes.22:38
badcloudZogG_laptop: maybe, but I've had no complaints so far22:38
badcloudI'm just getting very cross with my n900 lately22:38
badcloudmany MANY functions missing/not working as they should22:39
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Siceloluke-jr: would u help us with voice calls on these alternative distros? i read that u have had success with gentoo, http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-12-20.log.html#t2011-12-20T08:58:25422:39
luke-jrSicelo: maybe.22:40
luke-jrSicelo: what alternative distros?22:40
Sicelo:) kewl22:41
Siceloi'd try anything, although i'm more inclined towards debian22:41
luke-jrpfft22:41
Siceloheh22:41
luke-jrif anything, use Gentoo22:41
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Siceloif i partition my MyDocs, i can use your gentoo? or i really need a memory card?22:42
luke-jrI partitioned eMMC22:42
badcloudluke-jr: is there a function chart for gentoo functionality on n900?22:42
luke-jrbadcloud: a what?22:43
Sicelosounds good.22:43
badcloudluke-jr: sorry, I'm tired22:43
badcloudsome chart which displays what works, what doesn't, etc22:43
badcloudlike sms, calls22:43
luke-jrbadcloud: I have a txt file locally :P22:43
badcloudluke-jr: lay it on me22:44
luke-jrhttp://pastebin.com/hvk2PU7t22:44
luke-jrthis isn't hardware so much as my goals22:44
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: you used ofono to call?22:44
luke-jrZogG_laptop: yes22:44
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: nice and what app?22:44
luke-jrZogG_laptop: no app22:44
luke-jrjust the ofono example tools22:44
luke-jrand the libcmtspeechdata example22:45
luke-jrworking on an ALSA plugin for libcmtspeechdata tho22:45
ZogG_laptopbut do you have any app?22:45
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ZogG_laptopbtw any screenshots?22:46
luke-jrZogG_laptop: no22:46
ZogG_laptopand how you get incoming calls?22:46
luke-jrit just looks like any other KDE install right now :p22:46
luke-jrZogG_laptop: ofono-answer-calls22:46
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ZogG_laptopluke-jr: but how you see that someone is calling and how you do answer?22:47
luke-jrZogG_laptop: I don't yet.22:47
luke-jrofono-answer-calls answers22:47
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: ofono is \22:47
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badcloudhow's meego?22:48
luke-jrZogG_laptop: I have 100 minutes to test with each month :P22:48
luke-jrminus whatever I use for actual calls22:48
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: i'm interested if i can use my simcard slot in notebook with funtoo22:48
luke-jrZogG_laptop: ?22:49
ZogG_laptopofono is nokia specific driver?22:49
luke-jrofono has a n900 driver22:49
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luke-jrI know nothing about other ofono-compatible hardware22:50
luke-jrSicelo: FWIW, my eMMC is: p5 10 GB Gentoo rootfs, p6 16 GB extra storage, p2 Maemo /home, p3 Maemo MyDocs22:51
luke-jrerr22:51
luke-jrno…22:51
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Sicelo;)22:51
NIN101luke-jr: any link to this libcmtspeechdata example?22:51
ZogG_laptop10 eMMC ?22:52
Siceloi can live with a 2GB MyDocs.22:52
luke-jrNIN101: it's in libcmtspeechdata's git tree22:52
Sicelothen i can use ther rest for anything else22:52
luke-jrSicelo: FWIW, my eMMC is: p1 2 GB MyDocs, p5 10 GB Gentoo rootfs, p6 16 GB extra storage, p2 Maemo /home, p3 swap22:52
luke-jrSicelo: just be careful to keep p1-p3 the same as stock Maemo partitioning ;)22:53
luke-jrNIN101: it's a loopback example22:53
luke-jrNIN101: before I can test phone<->speaker, I need to get a safe speaker ;)22:53
NIN101oh ok.22:54
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ZogG_laptopor now i got you have it not on flash at all22:55
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: do you have dualboot?22:55
luke-jrfor now22:56
Siceloluke-jr: once i'm ready with the partitions, where can i get gentoo?22:58
luke-jrSicelo: would you mind documenting the install process as we go through it together? :P22:58
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luke-jrgrab a stage3 from http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/arm/autobuilds/current-stage3-armv7a_hardfp/23:00
Siceloi could try, lol. hoping what i would write won't sound winded ;D23:01
luke-jrlet me know when you're ready :P23:05
Sicelosure23:06
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ZogG_laptopSicelo: lol, gentoo is not easy to install for first time, but when u understand it it's easier than ubuntu23:28
ZogG_laptopcoz u decide what to do and how and u understadn what you do23:28
* ZogG_laptop <3 gentoo and funtoo23:28
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zanberdoI have an N900 running 1.3 and am having some trouble installing applications and performing updates. I get an error message that says: Not enough space in application to install memory." I'm fairly certain I do have enough space but I need some pointers for what and where I should be looking to determine if in fact I have enough space.23:51
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NIN101http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space23:58
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NIN101but first, take a look how much space is used using the file manager...23:59

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