IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2011-12-23

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BCMM_zanberdo: pastebin "df -h" ?00:06
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zanberdoBCMM, I was mistaken. It appears that /home is 97% used with only 55M free: /dev/mmcblk0p2            2.0G      1.8G     55.0M  97% /home00:11
zanberdoI'm deleting things now00:11
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zanberdoI use ncdu on my linux boxes to display files/directories by size from cli. is there something similar for maemo?00:28
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zanberdonm. just use sshfs to mount /home on lappy and using local utils00:57
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zakkkmmHey, can someone help me configure the power button to automatically do "secure device", rather than bring up the menu?05:23
zakkkmmor guide me to some app that can accomplish this?05:23
psycho_oreoswhy couldn't you simply press the power button twice? that already does turn off the screen05:24
zakkkmmcause i want it to ask for the password, not just blank.05:24
psycho_oreosand secure device does not effectively mean `secure device' it just simply locks the screen with a slider05:24
zakkkmmotherwise i could just use the rocker05:24
zakkkmmit makes it ask for the password for me?05:24
psycho_oreoswell over time it may go into the proper `enter lock code'05:25
zakkkmmas soon as i click secure device.. the password thing pops up, then it blanks like a second later05:25
zakkkmmgenerally i been doing power button - secure device - push rocker(to blank screen)05:25
zakkkmmi want it to just be power button .. done05:26
psycho_oreosI've stopped using that switch, because I have otterbox commuter case, its awkward to not be able to use nails to flick the switch. Anyhow, no I have no idea and again in my case I could not get it to show up the area for one to enter lock code05:27
zakkkmmi have the otterbox case too, i dont use it though aha. adds too much bulk05:27
psycho_oreos*shrugs at the extra bulk* at least it does the job in protecting :)05:28
zakkkmmi wanna switch from blackberry to maemo, but i cant use it without a quick way to lock the device05:29
zakkkmmon blackberry it locks on holster adding, or by pressing "k" key.05:29
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psycho_oreosI know there is a file that handles the power key menu, but I'm uncertain if one goes and say comments all the un-necessary fields except for lock screen option, would it be able for the device to simply lock screen should there be only one choice05:31
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zakkkmmcan you add to locker perhaps?05:32
psycho_oreosthat I'm not sure05:32
dangergrrlyou can run blackberry on an n900?05:32
zakkkmmdangergrrl: :P, blackberry to n900 .. i have both phones05:33
psycho_oreosI think you misread05:33
dangergrrlthe n900 is a great handheld linux pc05:33
dangergrrlcrappy phone05:34
dangergrrllove it05:34
zakkkmmi dont do much except call/txt a bit05:34
psycho_oreoshence its called `internet tablet with phone functionality'05:34
dangergrrlwell i love mine05:34
dangergrrlbut i don't reccommend it much to others because of that05:35
dangergrrlunless they are linux hackers05:35
dangergrrlit also reduces it's theft value05:35
zakkkmmthat nobody wants it?05:36
zakkkmmwhats wrong with it? Its well built05:36
psycho_oreosI'd do exactly that, I only recommend N900 to those whom will be willing to tinker rather than thinking they have a phone and expect it to run completely and flawlessly as a phone.05:36
dangergrrlthat most people can't use it for what it is good at05:36
zakkkmmwhats it good at?05:36
dangergrrlit is pretty robust05:37
dangergrrli took it camping in the mountains05:37
dangergrrlhave dropped it05:37
dangergrrlnever tried n900fly to see how high i could throw it05:37
dangergrrlit is great at doing the things i expect from a linux pc with low ram05:38
zakkkmmany of you overclock your n900?05:38
dangergrrli bet it would run settlers 2 in dosbox fine05:38
dangergrrlonly if i have to05:39
zakkkmmwhen i first got it im like ahh its too expensive, i would hate it if it were to fail, now with the value drop so much, im wondering if its worth it05:39
dangergrrli have video files that break without overclocking05:39
dangergrrli want an n905:40
dangergrrlthe pink ome with 64gb05:40
dangergrrlbut i am poor05:40
psycho_oreosI'd never want to throw my N900 let alone use N900fly as a way of seeing how far/high I can throw the device. I completely agree on the fact that its rather and expensive (and now somewhat rare) for one to have N900 let alone sourcing it05:40
dangergrrlit has enough ram05:40
dangergrrli tossed it above a pillow because n900fly made me lmao05:41
psycho_oreosits called magenta, and apparently according to tmo threads, there's no magenta 64GB apart from fake ones05:41
zakkkmmis meego/alternatives worth trying on n900?05:41
zakkkmmas a replacement?05:41
dangergrrli know they call it magenta05:42
dangergrrlbut it is pink05:42
dangergrrlthe idea of throwing a $350 device as high as you can made me laugh05:43
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dangergrrlso i had to try the program05:43
zakkkmmn900 is still $350?05:43
dangergrrlwhen i bought mine05:43
dangergrrla year ago05:44
dangergrrlshould have dropped now05:44
dangergrrldunno if it has05:44
psycho_oreosI think you'll find it hard to find a seller that would sell a genuinely brand spanking new N900 without charging you around that much... a few new N900 owners (on tmo) have described what is meant to be a refurbished N90005:45
dangergrrlN(x) devices are rare in the us05:45
zakkkmmim in Toronto, Canada.05:45
zakkkmmid sell mine for $350 :P05:45
dangergrrli would not05:46
zakkkmmwhy not?05:46
dangergrrli was homeless with the n900 as my only computer05:46
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dangergrrlit is a nice computer and i can carry it in my pocket05:47
psycho_oreoszakkkmm, and mark your N900 as brand new? that's pretty sad :)05:47
psycho_oreosI'm sure not many N900 sellers would sell that much anyway (in USD)05:47
psycho_oreoslike the ones found on tmo threads, even some of the ebay listings05:47
dangergrrlanything i can do about a badly scratched screen?05:48
luke-jrI found a "new" one for $20005:48
zakkkmmluke-jr!? still around05:48
zakkkmmlong time :)05:48
psycho_oreosdangergrrl, not really, though I saw a kit you could buy to polish the screen and *theoretically* mask the scratches up. Don't tell me you don't even have a screen cover for your N(0005:49
infobotpsycho_oreos meant: dangergrrl, not really, though I saw a kit you could buy to polish the screen and *theoretically* mask the scratches up. Don't tell me you don't even have a screen cover for your N90005:49
luke-jrpsycho_oreos: what would you need a screen cover for?05:49
luke-jrI have no screen cover, I've dropped it a few times, and there's still no scratches on the screen05:49
zakkkmmis there no app/easy configuration for my secure device issue?05:50
zakkkmmluke-jr: me too05:50
dangergrrli used a screen cover but it interfered with the touch screen05:50
psycho_oreosluke-jr, for various things.. one good instance is putting N900 in the same pocket with keys for instance05:50
zakkkmmluke-jr, your the one that attempted the gentoo port right?05:50
zakkkmmback in the day05:50
luke-jrok, N900 is actually $200 + 45 minutes driving/gas05:50
luke-jrzakkkmm: still working on it05:50
luke-jrzakkkmm: this time on N90005:50
dangergrrlluke-jr you were gonna run gentoo on n900?05:51
luke-jrpsycho_oreos: I see. I keep keys in the OTHER pocket :P05:51
zakkkmmluke-jr: you made me want to buy a n810 back in the day :)05:51
luke-jrdangergrrl: I do.05:51
luke-jrzakkkmm: I'm sorry.05:51
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dangergrrli am a funtoo person05:51
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psycho_oreosluke-jr, not saying that I do, but I have my N900 WITH screen cover AND otterbox commuter case in the same pocket.. keys, etc in other/s pocket :)05:51
psycho_oreoserr other pocket/s05:52
dangergrrli have poverty05:52
dangergrrlif i pay rent i can't buy anything05:52
dangergrrlwell, i bought a domain05:52
dangergrrlnothing there yet05:53
dangergrrlit was cheap05:55
dangergrrllike $7.50 for a year05:55
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psycho_oreos... you'd freeload just to buy a domain simply because of the fact that you could get yer internet handle registered to you? how sad05:57
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dangergrrluhm i want to work05:58
dangergrrli am trying05:58
dangergrrli am not freeloading05:59
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psycho_oreosI was about to say, it sounded like as if you sacrificed paying rent just to register a domain06:01
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dangergrrlno i paid rent06:05
dangergrrlit is winter in colorado06:05
dangergrrlnot stupid06:06
dangergrrland if i don't pay rent i have to live outside at 9000 feet06:06
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dangergrrlin summer i try not to pay rent06:07
dangergrrlit is nice living on federal lands then06:07
zakkkmmdangergrrl, lack of job hunting?06:08
dangergrrlcognitive disorder from head bashing06:09
zakkkmmanyone here use sleep analyzer?06:12
zakkkmmthe maemo app06:13
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dangergrrlseems interesting06:18
dangergrrlone could write a program to help lucid dreaming06:19
dangergrrlif you had telemetry for REM06:19
dangergrrlzakkkmm, i am slow mentally, not dumb but it takes time, and i fear men06:20
dangergrrli can't work in IT in an office06:20
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zakkkmmwork from home, IT?06:21
dangergrrldrobbins does it06:22
dangergrrlbut he is famous06:22
dangergrrlthe creator of gentoo06:22
zakkkmmgentoo is awesome, home pc is gentoo.06:23
dangergrrlhe is my friend kina on irc at least06:23
dangergrrli use funtoo06:24
dangergrrlit is his new thing06:24
zakkkmmah sounds pretty nice06:27
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happymonkeyif we have power kernel on the n900 how do we get the camera to work again?07:32
luke-jrnever stopped working for me07:32
happymonkeyI appear to have 48 installed right now07:33
happymonkeyand the camera is borked07:33
luke-jrI only have 42 and 4907:37
Sicelohappymonkey: iirc u reinstall drivers. check tmo.07:40
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swiftkickare there any tablet sized phones that run maemo?08:08
psycho_oreosN900 is the only tablet that has phone functionality08:09
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swiftkickpsycho_oreos: thanks08:17
swiftkickwhat about anything running linux, moblin, meego08:17
luke-jrtablet-sized = 7" ?08:18
auenfdo some people consider the htc hd2 tablet sized?08:19
swiftkicki mean08:19
swiftkickbigger than the n900 =)08:19
auenfhd2 runs meego doesnt it?08:19
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psycho_oreosI think there's less than a handful of devices running meego, though it is possible in theory to run meego in chroot environment and I'm sure there's plenty of devices that supports chroot. Though running meego natively heavily depends on various factors leaving the possibility of running meego natively on a device fairly slim and restricted to less than a handful of devices08:23
swiftkickive always wondered what you get if you get one of those generic phone/tablet developer kits from china that give you a choice of Windows Mobile, Android, or Linux.. they generally come with a CD of the OS and/or an x86 friendly cross-development toolchain08:25
psycho_oreosI'm guessing not a lot, one of me mate (friend) whom got a Chinese branded tablet and their guides were either in Chinese (simplified) or broken English with tools mostly for windows08:27
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swiftkickwell i mean, look at this, this was the result of a very quick ebay search08:27
swiftkickthat one might not have a GSM modem or phone functionality built in08:28
swiftkickbut OTOH its only $14408:28
sethstormswiftkick: as for the HD2, you lose FM and keyboard for certain, but you do get a different digitizer08:31
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swiftkickwhat im wondering is08:35
swiftkickheres a new question08:35
swiftkickis the cell call functionality SS7 ?08:35
swiftkicki know its proprietary on maemo. is that open source on meego?08:35
swiftkickthe actual codebase that handles placing voice calls over the PSTN via GSM etc....08:36
auenfmeego or harmattan?08:37
swiftkickanything, lol. i'm pretty much a newb to maemo with an n900 i purchased recently, but not really new to linux or embedded systems08:38
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swiftkickive been thumbing thru various docs online, the wiki, etc. ive already added a crapton of packages from the repositories. but im still not clear on what meego represents since the N9 runs mameo 6.08:40
auenfok, as long as you have that distinction worked out08:40
auenfharmattan is likely not much more open than fremantle08:41
auenfbut meego should be more open08:41
psycho_oreosthough meego relies on RPM as opposed to DEB package environments08:43
swiftkickoh nice08:44
swiftkickmeego is redhat derived?08:44
psycho_oreosno, more like it just utilises the RPM instead08:46
psycho_oreosyou could say its kinda like opensuse sort of situation.. not part of redhat let alone affiliated however just using the same package management08:46
auenfRPM packaging came from moblin08:47
swiftkickwell im definitely having fun with this N900, its my first attempt at an upgrade from my Nokia 9300 in a while.08:48
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auenf9300 has hildon iirc08:48
psycho_oreos"While RPM was originally written in 1997 by Erik Troan and Marc Ewing[3] for use in Red Hat Linux, RPM is now used in many GNU/Linux distributions. It has also been ported to some other operating systems, such as Novell NetWare (as of version 6.5 SP3) and IBM's AIX as of version 4." - wikipedia08:48
swiftkickauenf: aha, yes, I'd heard a little about this. the irony is, the 9300 is a very sturdy physical build. but the symbian version S80 it ran was like a dead fork of the symbian tree.08:49
swiftkickthe nice thing aobut a 9300 is it will run a lot of basic java apps too, i mean for $50 like new on ebay, its a very disposable phone08:50
swiftkickand i was looking kinda in the direction of an N97, but then I realized I'd much rather have something a more tablet like experience08:51
swiftkickas opposed to the more phone-like experience I'd probably get on the N9708:51
psycho_oreoswhat about E7? I don't know if it runs hildon but08:53
swiftkickI've definitely tried to upgrade before. I'd tried a few other brands, an HTC device or two - the Tilt and/or TytnII, I forget which ones... also some blackberry crap08:53
swiftkickbut they werent linux and they definitely lacked that sturdy build of the old 6300/9300 era physical builds of the Nokias08:53
swiftkicki'd drop it like twice, and, time for a new display08:53
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swiftkickor my favorite, spontaneous electrical failure. that got one of the HTCs - apparently from static discharge in an automobile on a cold winter day here in chicago.08:54
swiftkickneedless to say, while the N900 definitely seems to have a far sturdier build on the slide mechanism than I'd seen on a friends HTC product.08:55
swiftkickI am still trying to be a little more careful with taking good care of this device.08:56
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swiftkickthe thing is, hildon looks cool, but its dead08:57
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swiftkickand although i didnt read every last scrap of documentation on the n900 before buying it,  i could have sworn I read somewhere that maemo6 was going to "be" meego... I didn't realize there was that much of an architectural difference08:58
swiftkickso the irony is this might be a great phone, but maemo5 might end up like Symbian 80 on the Nokia 930008:59
auenfor do you mean series 90 :P09:00
ruskieI thought both were dead09:00
swiftkickwhats series 9009:00
ruskie80 and 9009:00
swiftkickis that like the 97's09:00
auenfnokia 7700/771009:00
swiftkickoh nice09:00
auenf7700 never got released09:01
swiftkicki didnt know there was another symbian edition besides 60 and 8009:01
auenfwhen 7710 got released, all 'series 90' info got changed to stuff like 'SDK for nokia 7710)09:01
auenfwhich reminds me, need to charge my 7710 and get a pic of it next to my n900 and n909:01
auenfwhat else do i need to finish my stillborn device collection?09:02
swiftkickso is it worth upgrading from maemo5 freemantle to mameo5 hanmattan ? I look at and I'm not seeing any dates that look very recent09:03
auenferr, freemantle is maemo 5, harmattan is maemo 6 rebranded to meego 1.2 harmattan09:03
psycho_oreosN950.. they're extremely rare09:03
swiftkickbut i thought maemo6 doesnt run on the N900 ?09:03
psycho_oreosno it doesn't09:04
auenf6 doesnt run on n900, no09:04
swiftkickbut meego does?09:04
psycho_oreosmeego is open source, harmattan/fremantle aren't09:04
psycho_oreosand there's hardware differences. N900 uses softfp, N950/N9 uses hardfp09:04
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swiftkickcomparing the pace of activity of blog posts and last updated dates on the site versus the two meego sites, meego seems a bit dead09:05
auenf<psycho_oreos> N950.. they're extremely rare <-- i'd need 7700 also?09:05
swiftkickthe N9 is already out isn't it? its running this meego 1.2 harmattan?09:05
swiftkicksoftfp/hardfp? floating point? <guess>09:06
psycho_oreosyes floating point09:06
psycho_oreosauenf, 7700? symbian? bleh09:06
auenfhildon :P09:06
psycho_oreosswiftkick, yes N9 is already out in selected countries, N950 otoh isn't09:06
psycho_oreosauenf, that's the UI not the base platform :þ09:06
swiftkickits cool, i'm pretty much stuck with the n900 =)09:07
luke-jrI use hardfp on N90009:08
luke-jrthat's not a hardware difference.09:08
swiftkicki got it in mint condition for less than $200, and its basically my first investment in the direction of a tablet style device.09:08
luke-jrswiftkick: there probably won't be a viable replacement for N900 for years09:09
swiftkickthing is09:09
swiftkicki could use something a little bigger09:09
luke-jryeah, N900 was a bit small09:10
auenfbit thick also09:10
swiftkickthis will make a nice phone, and the linux aspect is neat, i will definitely explore that more09:10
psycho_oreosN900 isn't really that thick.. try adding otterbox commuter series case onto the N900 before saying its thick :þ09:10
luke-jrN900 is too thin, actually09:10
swiftkickim fascinated by medium to higher performance computing or telephony in odd form factors...09:11
RaimuDepends on what you're using it for.09:11
swiftkickthe N900 is 4.3" diagonal?09:11
swiftkickoh well the screen is 3.9 and the body is 4.309:12
auenfhmm, 3.5" screen09:13
swiftkicki could see a 6" or even 7" tablet phone, depending on the aspect ratio09:13
auenfi've got a zte v9 (7" android tablet"09:13
auenfits sorta pocketable09:13
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auenfit'll fit in jeans back pocket, but stick out the top09:13
swiftkickauenf: is it also a phone?09:13
auenfalso, you'd also look like a tool trying to use it as a phone09:13
auenfit can make/receive calls09:14
auenfbut only in speakerphone09:14
swiftkickyah i think my friends galaxy tab has that option too09:14
swiftkickor you can unlock the dialer somehow09:15
auenfcame with 2.109:15
auenfupgradeable to 2.209:15
auenfso its just a 7" android phone09:15
swiftkickoh well09:17
auenf7" is far too big for a phone :P09:18
auenf5" is probably the limit (streak, galaxy note)09:18
swiftkicki somewhat agree about 7" being the limit, but only for the current form factor of tablets09:18
swiftkickif you narrowed it up a little more it wouldnt be quite so awkward09:18
swiftkickits another case where im surprised there isnt a 6"09:19
psycho_oreosisn't it these days, headphones/headset are all the rage? and especially wireless types? I mean why would you want to hold something like 7" device close to yer ear?09:20
RST38hpsycho: You may want to use a pin to attach it to your ear09:21
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Sicelowow, at ~267 ppi pixel density n900 screen still beats many, incl. N909:50
luke-jrSicelo: bet if you check the touch density, N900 beats everything in the last year ;)09:52
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Sicelohmm, i just installed Keepassx on my N900. it's nice, but UI is unusable. menu is too squashed :(10:18
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badcloudwow, gotta say I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of os options for the n90010:49
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Sicelois there another handheld with more options?10:50
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badcloudSicelo: openmoko.org10:50
jacekowskiopenmoko is dead10:50
badcloudjacekowski: no, it's not. GTA04 came out just recently10:50
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badcloud(latest hw revision)10:51
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jacekowskiand it costs like 2x as much10:52
ruskieand it still lacks a core component10:52
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ShadowJKbadcloud_; dunno any other phone with as many os options, most other are single os only :p11:02
nid0arguably the hd211:03
badcloud_ShadowJK: again, I point to openmoko. you've got at least 5 decent, working distros11:04
ShadowJKwould be cool if gta04 came with a case with keyboard11:04
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badcloud_ShadowJK: +111:05
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jacekowskibadcloud_: on n900, you've got meego, maemo, debian. android, ubuntu11:07
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hiemanshufedora, and other stuff too :P11:07
badcloud_jacekowski: meego doesn't seem to have good keyboard support, at least without installing something extra11:07
badcloud_android, at least from the wiki page doesn't have wifi11:08
badcloud_debian doesn't do gsm11:08
hiemanshuthere is also mer, and nemo and plasma active11:08
badcloud_ubuntu requires at least class 6 usd11:08
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jacekowskino it doesn't11:09
jacekowskiit's recommended for performance reasons11:09
jacekowskibut you can run it on aything11:09
badcloud_jacekowski: how well would it run on a class 2?11:10
nid0not very, but whats that got to do with the n900?11:10
ShadowJKMany class10 and class6 cards are slower than sandisk class 4 and even class 2 anyways..11:10
badcloud_all I'm saying is that choices are limited due to lack of functionality in each available distro11:11
badcloud_you're always going to give up something by choosing something other than maemo11:11
badcloud_I'm not trying to troll, I'm just saying what I've experienced trying to use meego and from what I've read online about the others11:12
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ShadowJKI think people start porting an os and then say "meh, maemo is good enough" and goes back to using maemo :P11:14
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badcloud_ir keyboard with n900? not much info online12:13
SpeedEviln900 has no designed IR reciever.12:14
badcloud_SpeedEvil: thanks12:15
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N00B__Hey there15:03
N00B__any N900 experts ?15:04
N00B__nobody there15:05
dm8tbryou'll never find out unless you ask your real question, stupid.15:06
badclouddm8tbr: be nice15:06
N00B__is installing any other OS on N900 like backtrack or ubunto or nitdroid have the same method ?15:07
N00B__dm8tbr here is my real question, bitch xD15:08
badcloudN00B__: I think the methods differ slightly15:10
badcloudbut all along the same idea15:11
badcloudwhich is format partition on flash/microsd15:11
badcloudextract image15:11
badcloudinstall bootmenu/bootloader15:11
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N00B__ohh i see.. thanks dude :))15:11
badcloudno prob15:12
N00B__but why do i need to format the memorycard ?15:12
badcloudsome need ext2/3 filesystem15:12
N00B__doesn't seems that hard.. thanks for helping15:13
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dm8tbrbadcloud: it got him talking, mission accomplished15:21
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badclouddm8tbr: touche15:47
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Pureguys what is the mean of MMC and eMMC ?16:14
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Pureguys what is the mean of MMC and eMMC ?16:16
javispedroMMC means "MultiMedia Card", a type of flash memory, while eMMC means "Embedded Multimedia Card"16:17
PureMMC and eMMC are memory cards like the SD ?16:17
javispedroon the context of Maemo devices, eMMC is usually used to refer to the internal, non removable card16:17
Pureohhh the eMMC is the internal memory and MMC is the SD one XD thanks16:18
javispedrointernal memory _card_, it is important16:19
javispedrobecause there is also the NAND/OneNAND16:19
Purehmm okkay16:20
javispedrofor example the N900 contains a 256MB OneNAND chip, a 32GB eMMC card, and the SD card slot.16:20
Pure256 is for apps ?16:23
SpeedEvilNot really16:24
SpeedEvil256 is for the 'core' system16:24
SpeedEvilIt won't properly boot without the emmc16:24
Pureohh got it16:25
RST38hmoo javispedro16:26
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javispedromoo RST38h et all16:26
SpeedEvilWith pr1.0, I think it would.16:26
Purecan you give me a link for flashing tutorial ?16:26
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is
Purelol thanks xD16:27
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Purecan i use the flasher to install the modded image that have 8gb apps 20gb files ?16:31
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Pureto install the modded 8gb apps 20gb files should i use the flasher ?16:43
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javispedronote that modded images are theoretically illegal16:45
javispedroit is quite easy to do it oneself16:46
javispedrothere were instructions somewhere16:46
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Pureillegal and they put links to download in ?16:50
Pureif it is easy to do i don't mind do it myself16:51
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badcloudanyone tried pairing with this?
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BerlinermauerHey Guys, Does anyone know how to fix the following: I'm unable to install the new Maemo Update, released some weeks ago. I always get the Message, that I wouldn't have enough Application Memory, but this is definately false. Usual Apps are updateable without errors?!18:23
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merlin1991Berlinermauer: in how far is it defenitely flase?18:28
merlin1991what does 'df -h' tell you about space in / ?18:28
Berlinermauerwell i don't know how much exactly, but afaik in "settings->Space" it said something about 200mb? I'll look, just a sec18:29
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merlin1991can't be 200mb, because / is only ~230 mb :D18:30
merlin1991I've got 88 here18:30
Berlinermaueryou're right, somehow unter / i have use%: 100% xD18:31
merlin1991Berlinermauer: the important lines are the first one (ubi0:rootfs) and the one with /dev/mmcb1k0p218:31
merlin1991well go digging what eats up your rootfs space :D18:32
Berlinermauerthe /dev/mmcb1k0p2 uses 1.3G out of 2GB18:32
merlin1991that's whay it says you have space in settings->space18:33
merlin1991but that's only /opt18:33
merlin1991I guess some rouge app wrote to your rootfs and filled it up :/18:33
Berlinermauerwell how can i get an overview of how much space a particular folder uses?18:34
Berlinermauerls-ls doesn't return the thruth i guess18:34
merlin1991du -h .18:34
Berlinermaueri i have a file "/core" which was created on the 1st of January 1970, i geuss its a systemfile?18:35
merlin1991don't have that one here18:35
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Berlinermauerwell it takes 15319040 Bytes18:36
merlin1991ls -lh gives you readable results ;)18:36
Berlinermauerthats about 14mb well18:36
BerlinermauerYou're a genious ;)18:36
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Berlinermauerwell thousands of files got listed :P18:39
Berlinermauereven with | grep M18:39
merlin1991enhance your grep ;)18:39
BerlinermauerIs there an Option that du -h doesnt list me everything, but only the folders with a summary of the size?18:40
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villagerwhat du -h is listing *is* the folders18:43
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ahollerdu -sbh *18:43
villagerif you're only interested in the rootfs, you should probably add -x18:44
BerlinermauerYeah, i wanted to say, to stop it from being recursive, so that it only lists the TopLevel Folders18:45
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villagerfor toplevel either "-s *" or "-d 1" would work, but it is unlikely that the result would be all that useful... I'd recommend two levels at least18:47
villagerand no, you don't need any /core file, delete it18:48
merlin1991du -hx | grep [0-9]M18:48
merlin1991makes a nice list18:48
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villagercore files are usually leftovers by crashed programs18:49
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Berlinermauer./usr/lib has 206MB?19:15
Berlinermauerand . 404.9M19:15
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Berlinermauercan i delete the /home/user/.cache folder? it has about 78MB usage19:21
merlin1991Berlinermauer: that one is not on / afaik19:21
Berlinermauerwell on /home/user, and only /home/user/MyDocs is mounted to another FS19:22
merlin1991/dev/mmcb1k0p2 is on /home19:22
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Berlinermaueraww well ur right19:23
Berlinermauermy GUI for the PackageManager takes hours to load up the screen where i can select some apps. Is this due to an error in my PackageList?19:25
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Sicelono. takes long on mine too.of course, devel/testing makes it worse19:27
villagerI just multitask away to do something else (check email, play solitaire) while the packagemanager is loading19:30
Berlinermauer Something uncommon?19:30
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Sicelou have(k)syslog(d)?19:35
villagerwell, it's unusual that you'd have anything much in /usr/local and /usr/include... (of course, /usr/lib is also larger than normal, but two levels of folders is not enough to say much about that)19:36
Sicelomy /var/log/ is practically empty19:36
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Berlinermauerwell this is because i installed some pythonlibs etc19:54
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villagerthen those libs could be your problem... they do not appear to have been properly prepared for preserving rootfs space on maemo (aka optified)19:57
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Berlinermauerwell i have several mounts:19:58
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Berlinermauer /opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python2.5              2.0G    703.2M      1.2G  37% /usr/lib/python2.519:59
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villagerwell it's clear you have stuff in /usr/include, /usr/local, and /usr/lib that's not in /opt20:02
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eichihello. someone has experience with the latest batterypatch? it sounds interesting for me. I read about it stops processes. which one are they? also messanger?20:18
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Estel_hi Maemo20:20
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Estel_I got strange issue with catorise plus, lately. Does anyone know, where it's config files reside? Of course its not in /home/user/, not in etc/20:22
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Estel_to be more precise - I got category "All" shown twice, and one .desktop file isn't shown in catorise configuration GUI (can't set it to one of ctegories), instead, it's presented as category itself20:23
Estel_of course, clicking that "category" resut in opening of program20:24
SiceloEstel_: i'd start with a 'dpkg -L <pkg>'20:25
Estel_thanks, good idea. I think I'm little slow at tyinking today ;)20:27
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DeRbi ::::::::::::::::> WWW.MEGA-HD.ORG <:::::::::::::::: {{{{{{{{{{ The best FREE High Definition movies, videos, programs }}}}}}}}}} 22:17
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