IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-11-08

nealthen you aren't using my version00:00
Phlogistiqueonly "avatars", "cache" and "topost"00:00
Phlogistiqueoh, ok00:00
nealI fixed a lot of bugs00:00
Phlogistiquethere must be some remanence of the previously installed version00:00
PhlogistiqueI'm not sure how to deinstall it better than I did already00:00
nealdpkg -P khweeteur00:00
nealyou can see my changes here:
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nealor, dpkg -l khwetteur to configure which version you are running00:03
nealif you already installed khweeteur from extras, then I don't think HAM will allow you to upgrade it using another repository00:03
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Phlogistiqueneal: oh, that's the problem then00:05
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nealPhlogistique: If you have some time, would you consider reviewing my woodchuck-replaced packages so they can get into extras:
Phlogistiqueneal: I will look into that, but I don't know how to do it00:12
nealthe short version is you install the packages and if they don't break anything, you vote thumbs up00:13
PhlogistiqueHow am I installing them if HAM refuses to update Khweeteur?00:13
Phlogistiquewell I can at least install the woodchuck ones00:13
nealif you purge khweeteur, then reinstall it, it should work00:14
nealthe easiest thing might be to:00:14
nealdpkg -P khweeteur00:14
Phlogistiquethat's what I did, but I still got Khweeteur 0.5.2700:14
nealappend: deb fremantle-1.3 maemo00:15
nealto /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list00:15
PhlogistiqueI have it00:15
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nealand then: apt-get install khweeteur00:15
Phlogistiquewell I have the maemo commponent but not the fremantle-1.300:15
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nealwhat does apt-cache show khweeteur | grep Version show?00:17
nealapt-get install khweeteur=0.6.1-100:18
nealthat should also work00:18
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Phlogistiquerr fremantle-1.3/fremantle-1.3 Packages 404 Not Found00:18
PhlogistiqueW: Failed to fetch  404 Not Found00:18
nealhow did you get that?00:19
Phlogistiqueapt-get update00:19
nealit should be\00:20
Phlogistiqueok I see the problem00:20
Phlogistiqueit was silly00:20
nealwhat was the problem?00:20
PhlogistiqueI had00:23
Phlogistiquedeb fremantle-1.3 maemo fremantle-1.300:23
Phlogistiquein my sources.list00:23
nealdid you add that?00:23
nealor is that from my .install file00:23
Phlogistiquein the graphical interface00:23
nealoh, the .install file should have added the repository00:24
Phlogistiqueyes it has added00:24
Phlogistiquethe repository00:24
PhlogistiqueI was being silly00:24
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nealok :)00:24
Phlogistiquenow I have your khweeteur00:24
Phlogistiqueand I have a Khweeteur crash report00:25
nealthat's left over from the old version00:25
PhlogistiqueIt has sent a bug report to the bugtracker (?)00:25
nealif you said yes, then it did00:25
Phlogistiqueis it something to which you have access or should I upload the logging/ file?00:26
Phlogistiquealso does logging/ contain any private information?00:26
nealwhen khweeteur crashes, it creates a crash report00:26
nealwhen khweeteur starts, it checks if there is a crash report00:27
PhlogistiqueI do hope it's not sending what is written in the .log file00:27
nealwhen you started my version of khweeteur, it say a crash report00:27
infobotneal meant: when you started my version of khweeteur, it saw a crash report00:27
nealand ask if you wanted to send it00:27
nealif that was the first time you started my version of khweeteur, it was not "my" bug00:27
nealthe crash report only includes the back trace for the particular crash00:28
nealthe crash report does not include the log00:28
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Phlogistiquebecause the log file does contain private information00:28
nealthe log does not contain your password00:28
nealbut it does contain events, like what searchs you subscribe to, etc.00:28
Phlogistiqueit contains a token and token secret00:28
Phlogistiquethat enables posting on my behalf00:28
nealoh, that should be removed00:29
nealgood point00:29
nealdo you have the surrounding test?00:29
nealtext, rather00:29
PhlogistiqueI just revoked the access00:30
Phlogistiqueso I can send the full text00:30
nealanyways, the logging files are not uploaded00:30
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nealgreat, I've fixed the bug00:35
nealit will be in the next version00:35
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nealdo you want to be thanked in the change log?00:38
PhlogistiqueIt was mainly you helping me out so I don't think there is any need.00:39
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nealyou found the bug :)00:39
nealor, at least observed it00:39
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PhlogistiqueInstalled the murmeltier, apt-woodchuck and smart-storage-logger00:45
Phlogistiquenot sure what I do know00:45
Phlogistiqueif nothing bad happens in a day, I upvote you?00:45
nealsomething like that :)00:45
nealyou can read about the programs on my homepage00:46
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nealother programs that are woodchuck enabled are feedingit (an rss reader) and gpodder (a podcast manager)00:46
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PhlogistiqueI have seen that00:47
nealif khweeteur doesn't meet your needs, I'd be interested to hear why00:48
Phlogistiquewell for starters I'd prefer several timelines for my several accounts00:50
Phlogistiquebut it's hard to implement in a small screen00:50
Phlogistique(while keeping the whole experiense snappy I mean)00:50
nealand where do you put all the buttons?00:51
Phlogistiquethat's the problem. the standard solution is using horizontal scrolling for this00:51
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PhlogistiqueMaybe I should get into the code and implement it00:52
PhlogistiqueI'm not a huge C++ fan though00:52
nealit's python00:52
Phlogistiqueoh, cool00:52
Phlogistiquecloning it00:53
nealPhlogistique: I'd recommend cloning my repo00:56
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Phlogistiquethat's what I did01:03
Phlogistiquewhat's nwalfiels? is it your name?01:03
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nealwalfield is my last name, yes01:04
neals is used to form the genetive01:04
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HyperSnyperwhat the hell has happened to HDD prices....04:24
HyperSnyperbought 2 x 2TB drives not along ago sure i paid £120 for both04:24
HyperSnypercan't find many places selling one for that anymore..04:24
SpeedEvilFlooding happened.04:24
SpeedEvilIt washed away all the 0s.04:25
SpeedEvilFlooding took out 20% of global disk capacity.04:25
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SpeedEvilOr something like that.04:25
DocScrutinizerreally now?04:25
HyperSnypercan that really cause 50% prices increase..04:25
SpeedEvilI'm gonna guess 'near water'.04:25
DocScrutinizerthailand producing HDD???04:26
HyperSnyper4 drives ive just looked at are all thai04:26
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SpeedEvilTechnology research firm IHS iSuppli has estimated that worldwide  shipments of hard drives could fall by 30% during the last three months  of the year. Reuters reported that some retailers contacted have raised  the average price on a hard drive to $90 from $60.04:26
HyperSnyperthink im going to go hunting for small shops tomorow that havent realised price increase04:28
* HyperSnyper hopes04:28
* DocScrutinizer recalls when last manuf (TI?) announced stop of SN7406, the chip gone up from 30ct to 60$04:29
HyperSnyperi had aload of DS flashcards that tripled in price over night when they announced end of production04:30
x29aare you a reseller?04:30
HyperSnyperxmas presents one year04:30
x29aso whats the point in hogging stuff?04:30
HyperSnyperbought aload cheap from china04:30
x29agive SSD's, and kids will be happy04:30
HyperSnyperanyone got suggestions of good playstation games04:32
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internetishardAnyone opened up an n900 to fix the 3.5" jack?05:00
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internetishardthe mic stopped working. Only headphones work, but when a headset is plugged in the mic doesn't work.05:03
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SpeedEvilThe jack is simply pressed ontot he board.05:11
SpeedEvilIt can be easily replaced - if you can find spares.05:11
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DocScrutinizerinternetishard: check AV, plug device to a TV05:23
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DocScrutinizerinternetishard: and reflash before you consider hw fixing actions05:25
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ruskie <-- of course they do... they were always a company that woried about getting developers08:47
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Macermy washer isnt working properly09:33
Maceri think the door switch may have worn09:34
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MohammadAGso I just found out my monthly bill always averages 600NIS, about $15010:25
jacekowskii never go above £3010:25
MohammadAGgoing to subsidize an iPhone or SGSII10:25
kerioMohammadAG: holy shit10:25
keriowtf are you doing with your phone10:25
MohammadAGkerio, apparently talking a lot10:26
hiemanshuMohammadAG: what, no cheap plans?10:26
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hiemanshuI pay $2 a month to get unlimited free calls to the same number10:26
auenfx4MohammadAG, subsidise it on a 3month contract or something?10:27
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infobothiemanshu meant: I pay $2 a month to get unlimited free calls to the same network10:27
auenfx4seeing as you make too many calls :P10:27
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MohammadAGwell, all iPhone or SGSII owners say they pay a flat 50 bucks10:27
MohammadAGwith some 6000 minutes talk time and 4GBs internet or sth10:28
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MohammadAGsince I pay 3 times that already, I may subsidize a dust collector, unlock it and sell it later10:28
auenfx4how many mins of calls do you make to rack up $150?10:29
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petterimine is like 16 eur including 10 for 1Mbit internet10:30
keriosubsidize a n900!10:30
kerioyou never have enough10:30
auenfx4sif any telco has n900's left to subsidise10:31
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Macermost carriers here do that for free10:35
Macerfree calls to same network10:35
Macerbut i am sure they charge you elsewhere to make up for it10:36
Macergreedy bastards10:36
Maceri still don't have a plan to drop my minutes even lower10:36
Maceri think when i get the chance i will move over to a prepaid line with unlimited data if they have one available10:36
hopbeatfolks, can someone give me a hint who's debmaster for maemo atm/can pull package from extras-devel?10:36
Maceri use like 10 mins of voice time a month on my cell but a crapload of data10:36
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LaoLang_cooln900 is so nice10:43
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ebzzryHi1 Is there a way to disable the camera focusing light in Maemo 5?10:55
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MohammadAGauenfx4, no idea, lots I guess10:58
auenfx4sounds like lots :P10:59
auenfx4there are mobile plans here for $99 that are unlimited calls/text10:59
auenfx4and a bunch of data included also10:59
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Macersears has N9s!?11:06
auenfx4Sold by GSM On Sale11:07
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Macerreg price: $89911:08
Macerare people really buying these things for 900?? :)11:08
auenfx4it converted to local currency for me11:08
Macerno wonder nokia sucks now11:08
auenfx4which means its about $200 more expensive than 64GB locally11:09
Macerslashed to $79911:09
Maceryou save $100!11:09
auenfx4AUD$788 for 64GB locally :P11:09
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Maceryeah.. USD and AUD are pretty close11:09
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Macerthat is amazing tho... omg that is a lot for a phone11:10
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Macerthen again.. the samsung note is going for roughly the same price11:10
Maceri just thought it was too funny tho that it was on the sears web site11:10
Macerthat was unexpected11:10
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meceMacer, some googling tells me "iPhone 4S 64GB – $849"11:13
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Macerwow really??11:13
MohammadAGauenfx4, I mainly use data and calls, only 70 cents of sms11:13
meceMacer, $649 for 16Gb version11:14
MacerN9 is 64GB?11:15
auenfx4i did $4.20 of sms' last month11:15
meceMacer, 64 or 1611:15
Macerno.. that is the 16GB going for that much11:15
Macerfrom sears11:16
Macerthat is retarded11:16
meceMacer, damn. That's a bit much11:16
Macerthat it is11:16
Macerdoes the n9 at least have a microsd slot?11:16
Macersdxc i'm hoping? :)11:16
meceMacer, no11:16
auenfx4no microsd slot11:16
Macertaking the apple route huh?11:16
mecehaha ok, the size of the note, that's what's retarded!11:17
Macerit is huge11:17
Maceri guess something between a tablet and a phone?11:17
Maceri wonder if it is running honeycomb with a dialer :)11:18
auenfx4my android 'tablet' is a 7" with froyo11:18
auenfx4it can be used as a phone :P11:18
meceoo but the weight of the note is brilliant!11:18
auenfx4it fits in jeans back pocket11:19
auenfx4cept its a bit tall11:19
meceauenfx4, and if you sit down it breaks11:19
auenfx4Dimensions 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm11:19
auenfx4Weight 178 g11:19
Macerback pocket?11:19
Maceryou shouldnt need cargo pants to carry your phone11:20
auenfx4Dimensions 192 x 110 x 12.6 mm11:20
auenfx4Weight 403 g11:20
auenfx4its a touch heavier than galaxy note :P11:20
Macerthey don't have n900 on that site :(11:20
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meceiphone and galaxy are really starting to look old...11:20
meceanyway, I'm sure the note has some good uses, but not for me. I couldn't carry it.11:21
Macerdoes sony still use symbian?11:22
meceit also seems to be running some primitive and uninteresting operating system11:22
meceMacer, I doubt that.11:22
meceMacer, android afaik11:22
Macerah ok11:23
Maceri would definately get the black N911:24
meceI want the white one.11:24
Macerif they weren't so damn expensive11:24
mecethat galaxy note reminds me a lot of this:
Maceri will wait and see if nokia keeps making them11:25
Maceri'm sure if they work out then the price will drop and the N10 will pop up11:25
Maceromg.. top secreat!11:25
Macerepic movie11:25
meceI'm pretty sure Samsung watched that movie and were like, "Hey! Why don't we make that phone as a joke!"11:26
Maceri think they were targeting men with penis issues11:27
Macerthe asian market is huge for this sort of thing11:28
meceBut seriously, It must looks absolutely ridiculous when you talk on the phone with that thing11:29
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Macerthat's what the bt earpiece is for ;)11:31
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Macerit probably isn't as bad as it seems11:31
Maceryou probably have to see one first hand11:32
Maceri knowi might be a little late in asking.. but in the US... "Maemo" would be pronounced ... "May-Moe"11:32
Maceris that proper? or is it "Mee-Moe"11:32
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MohammadAGI pronounce it my mo11:33
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Maceri guess that is another way to read it11:34
Maceri always say "May Moe"11:34
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Maceri mean is this the same as Lin-us and Line-us ? where it is a matter of where you live?11:34
vdvx29a, i've found what was the reason for the yesterdays case11:35
vdvx29a, CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH11:35
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vdvwhich was set to /usr/lib/qt/include11:35
vdvi.e. to system qt headers dir11:36
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Trewasn9's kernel has been patched so that it shows free+cached memory as free, unlike linux normally... I was wondering why is it swapping often with >200MB free memory, but turns out most of that is cache11:57
Trewasmaybe n900 was the same, but at least it was never that laggy11:57
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ShadowJKWeird, I'd thought N9 would be less laggy12:06
ShadowJKand how the hell does it manage to blow 1gig of memory ;-)12:07
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Trewasnow after six days of uptime it is pretty much single-tasking phone, after a reboot it is ok for a few days12:08
ShadowJKkinda like N900 then12:08
ShadowJKare you sure it's not "free" that was patched?12:09
TrewasI am not sure what they have done, but I have a script polling /proc/vmstat and watching how much it swaps, and it does swap a lot even though free (the command) shows >200MB free memory12:10
Trewaschecking /proc/meminfo MemFree is the same value but there is almost 200MB of Cached too12:10
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vdvi've deployed qt app with qtcreator, deb package is installed, but when i try to run it as normal user looks like program is started (i see it in process list), but i don't see main window. running as root works normal12:18
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x29avdv: hah, so i guessed right ;)12:40
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x29avdv: you can also deploy by just copying the stuff over (can be set in qt creator, is a bit faster)12:41
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vdvthe reason app was not accessable from app menu was that in control file Section: user/hidden was specified12:44
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vdvx29a, had to put it in user/education12:46
vdvor maybe not..12:48
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x29avdv: you have weird settings, it just works here12:49
vdvi see app icon in list, but when i click on it, nothing happens12:50
vdvbut if i run app from terminal as root it opens12:50
vdvthat all happens on device of course12:50
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Trewasaah the memory info seems strange because the swap in n9 is actually a compressed ramdisk inside the main memory13:01
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jonwilok, wtf is a "dead key"?14:20
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mgedmingenerally speaking, it's a key that acts like a sticky-shift14:21
mgedminwhen you press it, it doesn't insert a character, but modifies the action of the following key14:21
mgedmine.g. if you have a "dead ~", you press it, then press n to get ñ14:22
mgedminand to enter a ~ you either press it twice, or press it and then press space (it depends on the OS, I believe)14:22
jonwilIf I can figure out these last few things, I will be able to release a set of usable headers for libimlayout :)14:22
jonwilwhich means you can read and get data from .vkb keyboard layouts14:23
Macerhm. got my cover from amazon. a clear one.14:36
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Macerit isnt too bad14:37
Macerstill slides :)14:37
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Maceri seriously do wish that i could find a plastic keyboard cover so i dont wear out the keyboard14:38
Macermaybe i can rig something up14:38
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* SpeedEvil fails to find the lolz.14:47
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* DocScrutinizer lolls14:48
DocScrutinizerwhile TV lulls me14:49
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MacerSpeedEvil: oh cmon14:52
Macerit is like seeing a 1980s commercial with tarrif clauses in the fine print14:53
Macerremember those?14:53
Macerthere is no mobile web app for google plus?14:53
Macergoogle keeps sending me to the full site14:53
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Maceroh. found it. nice. works good in the maemo browser14:57
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psychologehow to used python command judge call stats ? is connected or disconnected ?15:20
psychologesomebody konw?15:20
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Maceri am curious if my transformer supports dun15:30
Maceri never tried it on an android device15:30
psychologeMacer, hi15:30
Gizmokid2005frals: ping15:30
Maceri dont want to use wifi hotspot on the n900 if i can avoid it15:31
Macersucks up too much power15:31
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psychologea question,,how to use python judge call state ? has someone can tell me!15:33
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SpeedEvilnokia can't fix my n900, so I'm getting an E7.15:50
Corsacsure, exactly the same thing15:50
Corsacask for an n9, at least?15:50
SpeedEvilI did.15:50
SpeedEvilNo joy.15:51
hiemanshuin warranty?15:51
hiemanshumine isnt in warranty :/15:51
SpeedEvilSo I'm going to be doing the ebay+ebay thing15:51
hiemanshuusb broke the day I was going to solder it15:51
SpeedEvilMy touchpanel, and modem were dodgy.15:52
SpeedEvilOtherwise, I would have soldered it.15:52
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SpeedEvilStill got backup n900 anyway.15:55
Maceri think i will open this one soon enough to try to ensure it sticks15:57
Macerso far i have been babying the port15:57
SpeedEvilI need to make my right-angle cable.15:58
SpeedEvilI've got the parts.15:58
Macerright angle cable?15:59
Macermake a damn charging pad battery16:00
SpeedEvilA cable that protrudes ~5mm from the n90016:00
Maceroh. for the broken usb one?16:01
Maceror for the working one to keep the port safe?16:01
SpeedEvilAnd to make it more convenient to use on charge.16:01
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Maceransd safer?16:02
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DocScrutinizerjavispedro: \o/16:34
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MohammadAGGoing to check out that subsidizing idea I had in mind in a bit16:40
MohammadAGSomething deep inside me isn't convinced I should get an iPhon16:40
SpeedEvilHave customs decided to explode your n950 yet?16:41
LaoLang_coolWhich version of emmc is the latest?16:41
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MohammadAGSpeedEvil, still thinking how many grams of explosives it needs16:44
DocScrutinizererr, there's not been a new one after second version as of ~1 year ago16:45
LaoLang_coolHow do you guys turn the n900 screen off? By doble click power key or slide the lock key?16:46
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SpeedEvilSo often that my lock key nub got worn off.16:46
LaoLang_cooloh, I think that key is hard to slide16:46
SpeedEvilyou need to use your fingernail16:46
SpeedEvilthen it works well16:46
SpeedEviltrying with the finger doesn't work.16:46
LaoLang_coolI should tran myself16:47
DocScrutinizerooh I thought tran as in tranny16:47
LaoLang_coolHow to know which version of eMMC I'm using?16:47
LaoLang_coolsorry for my broken English ;p16:47
MohammadAGdoesn't really matter as long as you're on PR1.3.1 with no problems16:48
DocScrutinizerhah, simply assume you're not using the 2 year old PR1.0 compatible version16:48
LaoLang_coolI've reflashed with the pr1.3, but find that the default repository doesn't contain the extra repo, is it ok? I've read that "The Extras repository is pre-configured on the N900 and listed as and is enabled by default in PR1.1." in maemo wiki.16:49
javispedroMohammadAG, your N950 is still lost? how dutiful of them16:50
DocScrutinizerFSCK, sth's flooding my PC syslog :-S16:50
MohammadAGjavispedro, yeah16:50
DocScrutinizerNov  8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310393] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node f5c41590), AE_TIME16:50
DocScrutinizerNov  8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310435] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST 20090521 battery-38516:50
LaoLang_coolok, I've found that is the extra repo16:50
MohammadAGjavispedro, my bill's about 150 bucks, thinking of getting an iPhone16:51
javispedroA BILL?16:51
javispedrowhat you need now is a lawyer16:51
MohammadAGerr, operator's bill16:51
javispedrohelo RST38h16:51
andre__LaoLang_cool, maybe an unintended change.16:52
MohammadAGgetting an iPhone lowers it to 50 bucks16:52
MohammadAGso I might get one and find DocScrutinizer's home address16:52
DocScrutinizeroh, you're sending me a cryPhone for vivisection?16:53
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MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, anything that makes you think Aegis is better17:09
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, so, abuot the MobileSubstrate thing for iOS, you think we can make one for the N900?17:09
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MohammadAGI like the idea of hooking functions onto system app etc17:09
trxMohammadAG what's that, like dll injections?17:10
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: I haven't completely wrapped my head around it, but it looked *rather* weird17:13
MohammadAGtrx, injects code into closed apps17:14
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trxyeah, windows slang is dll injections for that17:15
DocScrutinizertrx: it seems to ptch the c(++) function entry code to jump to a "hooked in" patch17:15
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trxthat is actually not hard to do17:15
trxif you can read ASM17:15
DocScrutinizerit looks silly to me, should be doable in a more generic way, via proper LD_PRELOAD17:16
DocScrutinizerand usual symbol override17:16
DocScrutinizerunless you got statically linked apps17:16
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MohammadAGif you think bme is bad, you should use an iPod touch17:20
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MohammadAGcharging jumped from 68 to 9817:20
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MohammadAGunplugged and went out after it charged fully17:38
MohammadAGnow it's 68%17:38
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javispedroMohammadAG, shut up and get a mac :P17:41
javispedro( ;P )17:41
MohammadAGjavispedro, eww17:41
MohammadAGjavispedro, I'm on my way to Orange, gonna see if they give me an iphone17:41
MohammadAGI'm paying for more than 3 monthly anyway17:42
javispedrohah, I knew it. First an iPod, then an iPhone, then the iPad, and finally the iSteveJobs poster on your bedroom.17:43
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MohammadAGjavispedro, I regret buying the iPod17:44
MohammadAGif they give me an iphone that's going away17:44
MohammadAG(the iPod that is)17:44
MohammadAGno GPS (solved with N900 + columbus but 2x battery usage on both devices)17:44
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MohammadAG256MBs of RAM; not that it multitasks but having apps in memory is useful as on the iphone17:45
MohammadAGcrappy bluetooth stack crashes car audio system17:45
MohammadAGno turn by turn navi17:45
* lardman wonders how well the voice recog works on the iPhone 4S17:46
lardmanE.g. does "What's on this arvo?" return anything?17:46
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pwnguini have no idea what the device lock code is, and i'd like to change it to something i know18:14
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pwnguindo i need to reflash the firmware, or is there an easier method?18:15
psycho_oreosis the device still unlocked and is this N900 you're referring to?18:16
pwnguinoh yea, its unlocked and an 90018:16
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pwnguini dont recall ever setting a pin, but i suppose its possible18:16
psycho_oreosthere's a thread by qwerty12 on changing the device lock. There's also ways to obtain the key as well, though the key is encrypted18:17
pwnguinwith what?18:17
psycho_oreosqwerty12 wrote a program to change device lock, and to obtain the key, its mentioned in the thread, to get it the combination you need something like john the ripper18:18
pwnguinthe code was already 1234518:18
pwnguinlucky me18:20
psycho_oreosit doesn't take long for john to obtain the plaintext combination, with a reasonable computer these days it only takes matter of seconds to break it. Plus the combination consists of only numeric numbers, so really you're dealing with 10^918:20
Macerthis vkb in maemo is pretty bad18:21
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psycho_oreoslike as if that was ever news18:21
Macersending a txt or im or sms you have to type and then tap to make it go away18:21
pwnguinyea, i bought my mom a tmobile g2 (desire z?)18:22
Macersaid that wrong18:22
Macerpwnguin: it is a piece of shit18:22
Macerit will fall apart in 3 months18:22
pwnguinits lasted a year thus far18:22
Macermine lasted 8 or 9 months18:23
pwnguinthe keyboard is pretty nice18:23
pwnguinthe hinge may not be18:23
Maceris there a way to get conversations to send on vkb enter?18:23
Macervkb <enter>18:23
Macerhas anybody tried the maliit vkb?18:25
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fralsGizmokid2005: pong18:33
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Maceri wish n900 had the stylus keyboard from maemo418:39
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Macerthat thing was rather tolerable18:39
Macerthis piece of junk is horrible18:39
ijbquick question: is there an updated version of telepathy-sofiasip? version 0.6.2-0maemo4+0m5 provides wrong SDP headers when the device is connected to multiple networks.18:40
Macerat least hitting enter for xterm removes the vkb and sends txt18:40
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psycho_oreosthere are other SMS services out there, maybe even chat programs that will handle enter as it is under xterm18:44
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MohammadAGk, they're out of iphones and I need my dad with me to transfer the line from his ID to mine18:53
MohammadAGoh well, got some headphones anyway18:53
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Estel_I got strange problem with Dosbox, lately... When trying to use it with output=overlay, it segfaults just after dosbox logo, with following errors in logs:19:03
Estel_ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory19:03
Estel_ALSA:Can't open sequencer19:04
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Estel_MIDI:Opened device:none19:04
Estel_the weird thing is, that it worked with same settings a month or two ago, and dosbox wasn't updated meantime (for Maemo)19:04
Estel_I thought it's sound related, but tweaking or disabling sound emulation doesnt help. When i use it with output=surface, it works, so it is something display-related...19:05
Estel_Ho ever, output=surface doesn't scale, so every dosbox game/program is very tiny19:06
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Estel_with output=overlay I can't start dosbox, no matter of other settings, due to following errors19:06
Estel_mentioned* not following19:06
Estel_any ideas, anyone?19:06
Estel_especially, the "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" makes me wonder, what the heck does it have to do with output=overlay19:08
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Estel_is it possible that kernel update or CSSU update changed something? can anyone with dosbox, kp48 or CSSU confirm/deny this whole "open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" thing, when running dosbox with output=overlay?19:09
Estel_thanks in advance for any ideas.19:10
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DocScrutinizerpsyyou recently tried the john for lockcode?19:16
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DocScrutinizermeh he's gone19:16
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DocScrutinizerpwnguin: actually lucky you, iirc they changed lockcode implementation with 1.2 or 1.3, so this lil hack doesn't work anymore19:17
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Gizmokid2005frals: pingpong?20:17
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ferenchi, anybody here from the Maemo Council?20:29
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: guess, what! :-// my laptop fan sounds like a lawn mower21:07
DocScrutinizerwell, never clean a running system :-(21:08
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pronto  :(21:46
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MacerN900 battery took a nose dive shortly after turning on the wifi23:15
Macerwent from 25% to 123:15
Macerthe battery eye graph went straight down23:15
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SpeedEvilDoes your router porperly implement powersaving - and is this turned on in the netowrok conneciton?23:21
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