neal | then you aren't using my version | 00:00 |
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Phlogistique | only "avatars", "cache" and "topost" | 00:00 |
Phlogistique | oh, ok | 00:00 |
neal | I fixed a lot of bugs | 00:00 |
Phlogistique | there must be some remanence of the previously installed version | 00:00 |
Phlogistique | I'm not sure how to deinstall it better than I did already | 00:00 |
neal | dpkg -P khweeteur | 00:00 |
neal | you can see my changes here: https://gitorious.org/~nwalfield/khweeteur/nwalfields-khweeteur | 00:01 |
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neal | or, dpkg -l khwetteur to configure which version you are running | 00:03 |
neal | if you already installed khweeteur from extras, then I don't think HAM will allow you to upgrade it using another repository | 00:03 |
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Phlogistique | neal: oh, that's the problem then | 00:05 |
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neal | Phlogistique: If you have some time, would you consider reviewing my woodchuck-replaced packages so they can get into extras: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1118751&postcount=4 | 00:11 |
Phlogistique | neal: I will look into that, but I don't know how to do it | 00:12 |
neal | the short version is you install the packages and if they don't break anything, you vote thumbs up | 00:13 |
Phlogistique | How am I installing them if HAM refuses to update Khweeteur? | 00:13 |
Phlogistique | well I can at least install the woodchuck ones | 00:13 |
neal | if you purge khweeteur, then reinstall it, it should work | 00:14 |
neal | the easiest thing might be to: | 00:14 |
neal | dpkg -P khweeteur | 00:14 |
Phlogistique | that's what I did, but I still got Khweeteur 0.5.27 | 00:14 |
neal | append: deb http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck fremantle-1.3 maemo | 00:15 |
neal | to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list | 00:15 |
Phlogistique | I have it | 00:15 |
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neal | and then: apt-get install khweeteur | 00:15 |
Phlogistique | well I have the maemo commponent but not the fremantle-1.3 | 00:15 |
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neal | what does apt-cache show khweeteur | grep Version show? | 00:17 |
neal | apt-get install khweeteur=0.6.1-1 | 00:18 |
neal | that should also work | 00:18 |
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Phlogistique | rr http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu fremantle-1.3/fremantle-1.3 Packages 404 Not Found | 00:18 |
Phlogistique | W: Failed to fetch http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/dists/fremantle-1.3/fremantle-1.3/binary-armel/Packages 404 Not Found | 00:18 |
neal | whoah | 00:19 |
neal | how did you get that? | 00:19 |
Phlogistique | apt-get update | 00:19 |
neal | it should be http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/dists/fremantle-1.3/frema\ | 00:20 |
Phlogistique | ok I see the problem | 00:20 |
neal | http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/dists/maemo/fremantle-1.3/binary-armel/Packages | 00:20 |
Phlogistique | it was silly | 00:20 |
neal | what was the problem? | 00:20 |
Phlogistique | I had | 00:23 |
Phlogistique | deb http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck fremantle-1.3 maemo fremantle-1.3 | 00:23 |
Phlogistique | in my sources.list | 00:23 |
neal | did you add that? | 00:23 |
Phlogistique | yes | 00:23 |
neal | or is that from my .install file | 00:23 |
Phlogistique | in the graphical interface | 00:23 |
neal | oh, the .install file should have added the repository | 00:24 |
Phlogistique | yes it has added | 00:24 |
Phlogistique | the repository | 00:24 |
Phlogistique | I was being silly | 00:24 |
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neal | ok :) | 00:24 |
Phlogistique | now I have your khweeteur | 00:24 |
Phlogistique | and I have a Khweeteur crash report | 00:25 |
neal | that's left over from the old version | 00:25 |
Phlogistique | It has sent a bug report to the bugtracker (?) | 00:25 |
neal | if you said yes, then it did | 00:25 |
Phlogistique | is it something to which you have access or should I upload the logging/ file? | 00:26 |
Phlogistique | also does logging/ contain any private information? | 00:26 |
neal | when khweeteur crashes, it creates a crash report | 00:26 |
neal | when khweeteur starts, it checks if there is a crash report | 00:27 |
Phlogistique | I do hope it's not sending what is written in the .log file | 00:27 |
neal | when you started my version of khweeteur, it say a crash report | 00:27 |
neal | s/say/saw/ | 00:27 |
infobot | neal meant: when you started my version of khweeteur, it saw a crash report | 00:27 |
neal | and ask if you wanted to send it | 00:27 |
Phlogistique | yes | 00:27 |
Phlogistique | ok | 00:27 |
neal | if that was the first time you started my version of khweeteur, it was not "my" bug | 00:27 |
neal | the crash report only includes the back trace for the particular crash | 00:28 |
neal | the crash report does not include the log | 00:28 |
Phlogistique | ok | 00:28 |
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Phlogistique | because the log file does contain private information | 00:28 |
neal | the log does not contain your password | 00:28 |
neal | but it does contain events, like what searchs you subscribe to, etc. | 00:28 |
Phlogistique | it contains a token and token secret | 00:28 |
Phlogistique | that enables posting on my behalf | 00:28 |
Phlogistique | < | 00:28 |
neal | oh, that should be removed | 00:29 |
Phlogistique | (oops) | 00:29 |
neal | good point | 00:29 |
neal | do you have the surrounding test? | 00:29 |
neal | text, rather | 00:29 |
Phlogistique | I just revoked the access | 00:30 |
Phlogistique | so I can send the full text | 00:30 |
neal | ok | 00:30 |
neal | anyways, the logging files are not uploaded | 00:30 |
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Phlogistique | http://neetwork.net/up/misc/logging/ | 00:31 |
neal | great, I've fixed the bug | 00:35 |
neal | it will be in the next version | 00:35 |
Phlogistique | thanks! | 00:36 |
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neal | do you want to be thanked in the change log? | 00:38 |
Phlogistique | It was mainly you helping me out so I don't think there is any need. | 00:39 |
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neal | you found the bug :) | 00:39 |
neal | or, at least observed it | 00:39 |
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Phlogistique | Installed the murmeltier, apt-woodchuck and smart-storage-logger | 00:45 |
Phlogistique | not sure what I do know | 00:45 |
Phlogistique | if nothing bad happens in a day, I upvote you? | 00:45 |
neal | something like that :) | 00:45 |
neal | you can read about the programs on my homepage | 00:46 |
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neal | other programs that are woodchuck enabled are feedingit (an rss reader) and gpodder (a podcast manager) | 00:46 |
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Phlogistique | I have seen that | 00:47 |
neal | ok | 00:47 |
neal | if khweeteur doesn't meet your needs, I'd be interested to hear why | 00:48 |
Phlogistique | well for starters I'd prefer several timelines for my several accounts | 00:50 |
Phlogistique | but it's hard to implement in a small screen | 00:50 |
neal | yes | 00:50 |
Phlogistique | (while keeping the whole experiense snappy I mean) | 00:50 |
neal | and where do you put all the buttons? | 00:51 |
Phlogistique | that's the problem. the standard solution is using horizontal scrolling for this | 00:51 |
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Phlogistique | Maybe I should get into the code and implement it | 00:52 |
Phlogistique | I'm not a huge C++ fan though | 00:52 |
neal | it's python | 00:52 |
Phlogistique | oh, cool | 00:52 |
Phlogistique | cloning it | 00:53 |
neal | Phlogistique: I'd recommend cloning my repo | 00:56 |
neal | https://gitorious.org/~nwalfield/khweeteur/nwalfields-khweeteur | 00:56 |
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Phlogistique | that's what I did | 01:03 |
Phlogistique | what's nwalfiels? is it your name? | 01:03 |
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neal | walfield is my last name, yes | 01:04 |
neal | s is used to form the genetive | 01:04 |
Phlogistique | oh. | 01:04 |
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HyperSnyper | what the hell has happened to HDD prices.... | 04:24 |
SpeedEvil | Water. | 04:24 |
HyperSnyper | bought 2 x 2TB drives not along ago sure i paid £120 for both | 04:24 |
HyperSnyper | can't find many places selling one for that anymore.. | 04:24 |
SpeedEvil | Flooding happened. | 04:24 |
HyperSnyper | oh.. | 04:24 |
SpeedEvil | It washed away all the 0s. | 04:25 |
DocScrutinizer | eh? | 04:25 |
HyperSnyper | tai | 04:25 |
SpeedEvil | Flooding took out 20% of global disk capacity. | 04:25 |
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SpeedEvil | Or something like that. | 04:25 |
DocScrutinizer | really now? | 04:25 |
HyperSnyper | can that really cause 50% prices increase.. | 04:25 |
SpeedEvil | yes. | 04:25 |
DocScrutinizer | where? | 04:25 |
HyperSnyper | everywhere!! | 04:25 |
SpeedEvil | I'm gonna guess 'near water'. | 04:25 |
SpeedEvil | Thailand? | 04:26 |
DocScrutinizer | hahaha | 04:26 |
DocScrutinizer | thailand producing HDD??? | 04:26 |
SpeedEvil | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/thai-flooding-seen-raising-disk-drive-prices-2011-10-29 | 04:26 |
HyperSnyper | 4 drives ive just looked at are all thai | 04:26 |
DocScrutinizer | duh! | 04:26 |
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SpeedEvil | Technology research firm IHS iSuppli has estimated that worldwide shipments of hard drives could fall by 30% during the last three months of the year. Reuters reported that some retailers contacted have raised the average price on a hard drive to $90 from $60. | 04:26 |
SpeedEvil | ow | 04:27 |
DocScrutinizer | insane | 04:28 |
HyperSnyper | think im going to go hunting for small shops tomorow that havent realised price increase | 04:28 |
* HyperSnyper hopes | 04:28 | |
* DocScrutinizer recalls when last manuf (TI?) announced stop of SN7406, the chip gone up from 30ct to 60$ | 04:29 | |
HyperSnyper | i had aload of DS flashcards that tripled in price over night when they announced end of production | 04:30 |
x29a | are you a reseller? | 04:30 |
HyperSnyper | nope | 04:30 |
HyperSnyper | xmas presents one year | 04:30 |
x29a | so whats the point in hogging stuff? | 04:30 |
HyperSnyper | :D | 04:30 |
x29a | lol | 04:30 |
HyperSnyper | bought aload cheap from china | 04:30 |
x29a | give SSD's, and kids will be happy | 04:30 |
HyperSnyper | anyone got suggestions of good playstation games | 04:32 |
SpeedEvil | Elite. | 04:33 |
SpeedEvil | Nethack. | 04:33 |
HyperSnyper | oO | 04:33 |
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internetishard | Anyone opened up an n900 to fix the 3.5" jack? | 05:00 |
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internetishard | the mic stopped working. Only headphones work, but when a headset is plugged in the mic doesn't work. | 05:03 |
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SpeedEvil | The jack is simply pressed ontot he board. | 05:11 |
SpeedEvil | It can be easily replaced - if you can find spares. | 05:11 |
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DocScrutinizer | internetishard: check AV, plug device to a TV | 05:23 |
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DocScrutinizer | internetishard: and reflash before you consider hw fixing actions | 05:25 |
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ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/07/microsoft_chevronwp7_mango_jailbreak_blessing/ <-- of course they do... they were always a company that woried about getting developers | 08:47 |
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Macer | grrrrrr | 09:33 |
Macer | my washer isnt working properly | 09:33 |
Macer | i think the door switch may have worn | 09:34 |
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MohammadAG | so I just found out my monthly bill always averages 600NIS, about $150 | 10:25 |
jacekowski | i never go above £30 | 10:25 |
MohammadAG | going to subsidize an iPhone or SGSII | 10:25 |
kerio | MohammadAG: holy shit | 10:25 |
kerio | wtf are you doing with your phone | 10:25 |
MohammadAG | kerio, apparently talking a lot | 10:26 |
kerio | lame | 10:26 |
hiemanshu | MohammadAG: what, no cheap plans? | 10:26 |
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hiemanshu | I pay $2 a month to get unlimited free calls to the same number | 10:26 |
auenfx4 | MohammadAG, subsidise it on a 3month contract or something? | 10:27 |
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hiemanshu | s/number/network/ | 10:27 |
infobot | hiemanshu meant: I pay $2 a month to get unlimited free calls to the same network | 10:27 |
auenfx4 | seeing as you make too many calls :P | 10:27 |
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MohammadAG | well, all iPhone or SGSII owners say they pay a flat 50 bucks | 10:27 |
MohammadAG | with some 6000 minutes talk time and 4GBs internet or sth | 10:28 |
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MohammadAG | since I pay 3 times that already, I may subsidize a dust collector, unlock it and sell it later | 10:28 |
auenfx4 | how many mins of calls do you make to rack up $150? | 10:29 |
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petteri | mine is like 16 eur including 10 for 1Mbit internet | 10:30 |
kerio | subsidize a n900! | 10:30 |
kerio | you never have enough | 10:30 |
auenfx4 | sif any telco has n900's left to subsidise | 10:31 |
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Macer | most carriers here do that for free | 10:35 |
Macer | free calls to same network | 10:35 |
Macer | but i am sure they charge you elsewhere to make up for it | 10:36 |
Macer | greedy bastards | 10:36 |
Macer | i still don't have a plan to drop my minutes even lower | 10:36 |
Macer | i think when i get the chance i will move over to a prepaid line with unlimited data if they have one available | 10:36 |
hopbeat | folks, can someone give me a hint who's debmaster for maemo atm/can pull package from extras-devel? | 10:36 |
Macer | i use like 10 mins of voice time a month on my cell but a crapload of data | 10:36 |
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LaoLang_cool | n900 is so nice | 10:43 |
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ebzzry | Hi1 Is there a way to disable the camera focusing light in Maemo 5? | 10:55 |
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MohammadAG | auenfx4, no idea, lots I guess | 10:58 |
auenfx4 | sounds like lots :P | 10:59 |
auenfx4 | there are mobile plans here for $99 that are unlimited calls/text | 10:59 |
auenfx4 | and a bunch of data included also | 10:59 |
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Macer | ok..... | 11:06 |
Macer | http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6211610802P?ci_sku=SPM6211610802&ci_src=14110944&i_cntr=1320743061698&sid=IDx20101019x00001a | 11:06 |
Macer | w.....t......f? | 11:06 |
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Macer | SEARS?! | 11:06 |
Macer | sears has N9s!? | 11:06 |
Macer | lol | 11:06 |
auenfx4 | Sold by GSM On Sale | 11:07 |
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Macer | lol | 11:07 |
Macer | reg price: $899 | 11:08 |
Macer | are people really buying these things for 900?? :) | 11:08 |
auenfx4 | it converted to local currency for me | 11:08 |
Macer | no wonder nokia sucks now | 11:08 |
auenfx4 | which means its about $200 more expensive than 64GB locally | 11:09 |
Macer | slashed to $799 | 11:09 |
Macer | :) | 11:09 |
Macer | you save $100! | 11:09 |
auenfx4 | AUD$788 for 64GB locally :P | 11:09 |
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Macer | yeah.. USD and AUD are pretty close | 11:09 |
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Macer | that is amazing tho... omg that is a lot for a phone | 11:10 |
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Macer | then again.. the samsung note is going for roughly the same price | 11:10 |
Macer | i just thought it was too funny tho that it was on the sears web site | 11:10 |
Macer | that was unexpected | 11:10 |
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mece | Macer, some googling tells me "iPhone 4S 64GB – $849" | 11:13 |
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Macer | wow really?? | 11:13 |
MohammadAG | auenfx4, I mainly use data and calls, only 70 cents of sms | 11:13 |
mece | Macer, $649 for 16Gb version | 11:14 |
Macer | oh | 11:15 |
Macer | N9 is 64GB? | 11:15 |
auenfx4 | i did $4.20 of sms' last month | 11:15 |
mece | Macer, 64 or 16 | 11:15 |
auenfx4 | (7c/sms) | 11:15 |
Macer | no.. that is the 16GB going for that much | 11:15 |
Macer | from sears | 11:16 |
Macer | that is retarded | 11:16 |
mece | Macer, damn. That's a bit much | 11:16 |
Macer | http://phone-size.com/?p=%5B1%2C6%5D | 11:16 |
Macer | that it is | 11:16 |
Macer | does the n9 at least have a microsd slot? | 11:16 |
Macer | sdxc i'm hoping? :) | 11:16 |
mece | Macer, no | 11:16 |
auenfx4 | no microsd slot | 11:16 |
Macer | omg | 11:16 |
Macer | taking the apple route huh? | 11:16 |
mece | haha ok, the size of the note, that's what's retarded! | 11:17 |
Macer | yeah | 11:17 |
Macer | it is huge | 11:17 |
Macer | i guess something between a tablet and a phone? | 11:17 |
Macer | i wonder if it is running honeycomb with a dialer :) | 11:18 |
auenfx4 | my android 'tablet' is a 7" with froyo | 11:18 |
mece | haahaha | 11:18 |
auenfx4 | it can be used as a phone :P | 11:18 |
mece | oo but the weight of the note is brilliant! | 11:18 |
auenfx4 | it fits in jeans back pocket | 11:19 |
auenfx4 | cept its a bit tall | 11:19 |
mece | auenfx4, and if you sit down it breaks | 11:19 |
auenfx4 | Dimensions 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm | 11:19 |
auenfx4 | Weight 178 g | 11:19 |
Macer | back pocket? | 11:19 |
Macer | :) | 11:19 |
Macer | you shouldnt need cargo pants to carry your phone | 11:20 |
auenfx4 | Dimensions 192 x 110 x 12.6 mm | 11:20 |
auenfx4 | Weight 403 g | 11:20 |
auenfx4 | its a touch heavier than galaxy note :P | 11:20 |
Macer | they don't have n900 on that site :( | 11:20 |
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mece | iphone and galaxy are really starting to look old... | 11:20 |
mece | anyway, I'm sure the note has some good uses, but not for me. I couldn't carry it. | 11:21 |
Macer | does sony still use symbian? | 11:22 |
mece | it also seems to be running some primitive and uninteresting operating system | 11:22 |
mece | Macer, I doubt that. | 11:22 |
mece | Macer, android afaik | 11:22 |
Macer | ah ok | 11:23 |
Macer | i would definately get the black N9 | 11:24 |
mece | I want the white one. | 11:24 |
mece | anyway | 11:24 |
Macer | if they weren't so damn expensive | 11:24 |
mece | that galaxy note reminds me a lot of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMmNFRadig | 11:24 |
Macer | i will wait and see if nokia keeps making them | 11:25 |
Macer | i'm sure if they work out then the price will drop and the N10 will pop up | 11:25 |
Macer | LOL | 11:25 |
Macer | omg.. top secreat! | 11:25 |
Macer | epic movie | 11:25 |
mece | I'm pretty sure Samsung watched that movie and were like, "Hey! Why don't we make that phone as a joke!" | 11:26 |
Macer | lol | 11:27 |
Macer | i think they were targeting men with penis issues | 11:27 |
Macer | :) | 11:28 |
Macer | the asian market is huge for this sort of thing | 11:28 |
mece | But seriously, It must looks absolutely ridiculous when you talk on the phone with that thing | 11:29 |
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Macer | that's what the bt earpiece is for ;) | 11:31 |
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Macer | it probably isn't as bad as it seems | 11:31 |
Macer | you probably have to see one first hand | 11:32 |
auenfx4 | www.sidetalking.com | 11:32 |
Macer | i knowi might be a little late in asking.. but in the US... "Maemo" would be pronounced ... "May-Moe" | 11:32 |
Macer | is that proper? or is it "Mee-Moe" | 11:32 |
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MohammadAG | I pronounce it my mo | 11:33 |
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Macer | i guess that is another way to read it | 11:34 |
Macer | i always say "May Moe" | 11:34 |
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Macer | i mean is this the same as Lin-us and Line-us ? where it is a matter of where you live? | 11:34 |
vdv | x29a, i've found what was the reason for the yesterdays case | 11:35 |
vdv | x29a, CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH | 11:35 |
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vdv | which was set to /usr/lib/qt/include | 11:35 |
vdv | i.e. to system qt headers dir | 11:36 |
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Trewas | n9's kernel has been patched so that it shows free+cached memory as free, unlike linux normally... I was wondering why is it swapping often with >200MB free memory, but turns out most of that is cache | 11:57 |
Trewas | maybe n900 was the same, but at least it was never that laggy | 11:57 |
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ShadowJK | Weird, I'd thought N9 would be less laggy | 12:06 |
ShadowJK | and how the hell does it manage to blow 1gig of memory ;-) | 12:07 |
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Trewas | now after six days of uptime it is pretty much single-tasking phone, after a reboot it is ok for a few days | 12:08 |
ShadowJK | kinda like N900 then | 12:08 |
ShadowJK | are you sure it's not "free" that was patched? | 12:09 |
Trewas | I am not sure what they have done, but I have a script polling /proc/vmstat and watching how much it swaps, and it does swap a lot even though free (the command) shows >200MB free memory | 12:10 |
Trewas | checking /proc/meminfo MemFree is the same value but there is almost 200MB of Cached too | 12:10 |
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vdv | i've deployed qt app with qtcreator, deb package is installed, but when i try to run it as normal user looks like program is started (i see it in process list), but i don't see main window. running as root works normal | 12:18 |
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x29a | vdv: hah, so i guessed right ;) | 12:40 |
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x29a | vdv: you can also deploy by just copying the stuff over (can be set in qt creator, is a bit faster) | 12:41 |
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vdv | the reason app was not accessable from app menu was that in control file Section: user/hidden was specified | 12:44 |
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vdv | x29a, had to put it in user/education | 12:46 |
vdv | or maybe not.. | 12:48 |
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x29a | vdv: you have weird settings, it just works here | 12:49 |
vdv | i see app icon in list, but when i click on it, nothing happens | 12:50 |
vdv | but if i run app from terminal as root it opens | 12:50 |
vdv | that all happens on device of course | 12:50 |
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Trewas | aah the memory info seems strange because the swap in n9 is actually a compressed ramdisk inside the main memory | 13:01 |
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jonwil | ok, wtf is a "dead key"? | 14:20 |
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mgedmin | generally speaking, it's a key that acts like a sticky-shift | 14:21 |
mgedmin | when you press it, it doesn't insert a character, but modifies the action of the following key | 14:21 |
mgedmin | e.g. if you have a "dead ~", you press it, then press n to get ñ | 14:22 |
jonwil | If | 14:22 |
mgedmin | and to enter a ~ you either press it twice, or press it and then press space (it depends on the OS, I believe) | 14:22 |
jonwil | If I can figure out these last few things, I will be able to release a set of usable headers for libimlayout :) | 14:22 |
jonwil | which means you can read and get data from .vkb keyboard layouts | 14:23 |
Macer | hm. got my cover from amazon. a clear one. | 14:36 |
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Macer | it isnt too bad | 14:37 |
Macer | still slides :) | 14:37 |
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Macer | i seriously do wish that i could find a plastic keyboard cover so i dont wear out the keyboard | 14:38 |
Macer | maybe i can rig something up | 14:38 |
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Macer | http://my-symbian.com/other/preview_n900.php | 14:45 |
Macer | lol | 14:45 |
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DocScrutinizer | while TV lulls me | 14:49 |
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Macer | SpeedEvil: oh cmon | 14:52 |
Macer | it is like seeing a 1980s commercial with tarrif clauses in the fine print | 14:53 |
Macer | remember those? | 14:53 |
Macer | there is no mobile web app for google plus? | 14:53 |
Macer | google keeps sending me to the full site | 14:53 |
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Macer | oh. found it. nice. works good in the maemo browser | 14:57 |
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psychologe | how to used python command judge call stats ? is connected or disconnected ? | 15:20 |
psychologe | somebody konw? | 15:20 |
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Macer | hm | 15:29 |
Macer | i am curious if my transformer supports dun | 15:30 |
Macer | i never tried it on an android device | 15:30 |
psychologe | Macer, hi | 15:30 |
Macer | hi | 15:30 |
Gizmokid2005 | frals: ping | 15:30 |
Macer | i dont want to use wifi hotspot on the n900 if i can avoid it | 15:31 |
Macer | sucks up too much power | 15:31 |
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psychologe | a question,,how to use python judge call state ? has someone can tell me! | 15:33 |
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SpeedEvil | Meh. | 15:49 |
SpeedEvil | nokia can't fix my n900, so I'm getting an E7. | 15:50 |
Corsac | sure, exactly the same thing | 15:50 |
Corsac | ask for an n9, at least? | 15:50 |
SpeedEvil | I did. | 15:50 |
SpeedEvil | No joy. | 15:51 |
hiemanshu | in warranty? | 15:51 |
SpeedEvil | yes | 15:51 |
hiemanshu | mine isnt in warranty :/ | 15:51 |
SpeedEvil | So I'm going to be doing the ebay+ebay thing | 15:51 |
hiemanshu | usb broke the day I was going to solder it | 15:51 |
SpeedEvil | My touchpanel, and modem were dodgy. | 15:52 |
SpeedEvil | Otherwise, I would have soldered it. | 15:52 |
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SpeedEvil | Still got backup n900 anyway. | 15:55 |
Macer | i think i will open this one soon enough to try to ensure it sticks | 15:57 |
Macer | so far i have been babying the port | 15:57 |
SpeedEvil | I need to make my right-angle cable. | 15:58 |
SpeedEvil | I've got the parts. | 15:58 |
Macer | right angle cable? | 15:59 |
Macer | make a damn charging pad battery | 16:00 |
SpeedEvil | A cable that protrudes ~5mm from the n900 | 16:00 |
Macer | lol | 16:00 |
Macer | oh. for the broken usb one? | 16:01 |
Macer | or for the working one to keep the port safe? | 16:01 |
SpeedEvil | Working. | 16:01 |
SpeedEvil | And to make it more convenient to use on charge. | 16:01 |
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Macer | ansd safer? | 16:02 |
Macer | :) | 16:02 |
Macer | and | 16:02 |
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SpeedEvil | yes | 16:05 |
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DocScrutinizer | javispedro: \o/ | 16:34 |
DocScrutinizer | hi! | 16:34 |
javispedro | hi | 16:34 |
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MohammadAG | Going to check out that subsidizing idea I had in mind in a bit | 16:40 |
MohammadAG | Something deep inside me isn't convinced I should get an iPhon | 16:40 |
MohammadAG | e | 16:40 |
SpeedEvil | Have customs decided to explode your n950 yet? | 16:41 |
LaoLang_cool | Which version of emmc is the latest? | 16:41 |
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MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, still thinking how many grams of explosives it needs | 16:44 |
DocScrutinizer | err, there's not been a new one after second version as of ~1 year ago | 16:45 |
LaoLang_cool | How do you guys turn the n900 screen off? By doble click power key or slide the lock key? | 16:46 |
DocScrutinizer | #2 | 16:46 |
SpeedEvil | slide | 16:46 |
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SpeedEvil | So often that my lock key nub got worn off. | 16:46 |
LaoLang_cool | oh, I think that key is hard to slide | 16:46 |
SpeedEvil | you need to use your fingernail | 16:46 |
SpeedEvil | then it works well | 16:46 |
DocScrutinizer | indeed | 16:46 |
SpeedEvil | trying with the finger doesn't work. | 16:46 |
LaoLang_cool | I should tran myself | 16:47 |
LaoLang_cool | train | 16:47 |
DocScrutinizer | ooh I thought tran as in tranny | 16:47 |
LaoLang_cool | How to know which version of eMMC I'm using? | 16:47 |
LaoLang_cool | sorry for my broken English ;p | 16:47 |
MohammadAG | doesn't really matter as long as you're on PR1.3.1 with no problems | 16:48 |
DocScrutinizer | hah, simply assume you're not using the 2 year old PR1.0 compatible version | 16:48 |
LaoLang_cool | I've reflashed with the pr1.3, but find that the default repository doesn't contain the extra repo, is it ok? I've read that "The Extras repository is pre-configured on the N900 and listed as maemo.org and is enabled by default in PR1.1." in maemo wiki. | 16:49 |
javispedro | MohammadAG, your N950 is still lost? how dutiful of them | 16:50 |
DocScrutinizer | FSCK, sth's flooding my PC syslog :-S | 16:50 |
MohammadAG | javispedro, yeah | 16:50 |
DocScrutinizer | Nov 8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310393] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node f5c41590), AE_TIME | 16:50 |
DocScrutinizer | Nov 8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310435] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST 20090521 battery-385 | 16:50 |
LaoLang_cool | ok, I've found that maemo.org is the extra repo | 16:50 |
MohammadAG | javispedro, my bill's about 150 bucks, thinking of getting an iPhone | 16:51 |
javispedro | A BILL? | 16:51 |
javispedro | what you need now is a lawyer | 16:51 |
MohammadAG | err, operator's bill | 16:51 |
javispedro | aah | 16:51 |
RST38h | EHLO JAVISPEDRO | 16:51 |
javispedro | helo RST38h | 16:51 |
DocScrutinizer | abill? | 16:51 |
DocScrutinizer | :-o | 16:52 |
andre__ | LaoLang_cool, maybe an unintended change. | 16:52 |
andre__ | ah. | 16:52 |
MohammadAG | getting an iPhone lowers it to 50 bucks | 16:52 |
LaoLang_cool | yes | 16:52 |
MohammadAG | so I might get one and find DocScrutinizer's home address | 16:52 |
DocScrutinizer | oh, you're sending me a cryPhone for vivisection? | 16:53 |
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MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, anything that makes you think Aegis is better | 17:09 |
MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, so, abuot the MobileSubstrate thing for iOS, you think we can make one for the N900? | 17:09 |
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MohammadAG | I like the idea of hooking functions onto system app etc | 17:09 |
trx | MohammadAG what's that, like dll injections? | 17:10 |
DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: I haven't completely wrapped my head around it, but it looked *rather* weird | 17:13 |
MohammadAG | trx, injects code into closed apps | 17:14 |
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trx | yeah, windows slang is dll injections for that | 17:15 |
DocScrutinizer | trx: it seems to ptch the c(++) function entry code to jump to a "hooked in" patch | 17:15 |
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trx | that is actually not hard to do | 17:15 |
trx | if you can read ASM | 17:15 |
DocScrutinizer | it looks silly to me, should be doable in a more generic way, via proper LD_PRELOAD | 17:16 |
DocScrutinizer | and usual symbol override | 17:16 |
DocScrutinizer | unless you got statically linked apps | 17:16 |
trx | exactly | 17:17 |
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MohammadAG | if you think bme is bad, you should use an iPod touch | 17:20 |
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MohammadAG | charging jumped from 68 to 98 | 17:20 |
DocScrutinizer | haha | 17:21 |
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MohammadAG | unplugged and went out after it charged fully | 17:38 |
MohammadAG | now it's 68% | 17:38 |
MohammadAG | fml | 17:38 |
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javispedro | MohammadAG, shut up and get a mac :P | 17:41 |
javispedro | ( ;P ) | 17:41 |
MohammadAG | javispedro, eww | 17:41 |
MohammadAG | javispedro, I'm on my way to Orange, gonna see if they give me an iphone | 17:41 |
MohammadAG | I'm paying for more than 3 monthly anyway | 17:42 |
javispedro | hah, I knew it. First an iPod, then an iPhone, then the iPad, and finally the iSteveJobs poster on your bedroom. | 17:43 |
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MohammadAG | javispedro, I regret buying the iPod | 17:44 |
MohammadAG | if they give me an iphone that's going away | 17:44 |
MohammadAG | (the iPod that is) | 17:44 |
MohammadAG | no GPS (solved with N900 + columbus but 2x battery usage on both devices) | 17:44 |
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MohammadAG | 256MBs of RAM; not that it multitasks but having apps in memory is useful as on the iphone | 17:45 |
MohammadAG | crappy bluetooth stack crashes car audio system | 17:45 |
MohammadAG | no turn by turn navi | 17:45 |
* lardman wonders how well the voice recog works on the iPhone 4S | 17:46 | |
lardman | E.g. does "What's on this arvo?" return anything? | 17:46 |
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pwnguin | i have no idea what the device lock code is, and i'd like to change it to something i know | 18:14 |
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pwnguin | do i need to reflash the firmware, or is there an easier method? | 18:15 |
psycho_oreos | is the device still unlocked and is this N900 you're referring to? | 18:16 |
pwnguin | oh yea, its unlocked and an 900 | 18:16 |
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pwnguin | i dont recall ever setting a pin, but i suppose its possible | 18:16 |
psycho_oreos | there's a thread by qwerty12 on changing the device lock. There's also ways to obtain the key as well, though the key is encrypted | 18:17 |
pwnguin | with what? | 18:17 |
psycho_oreos | qwerty12 wrote a program to change device lock, and to obtain the key, its mentioned in the thread, to get it the combination you need something like john the ripper | 18:18 |
pwnguin | heh | 18:18 |
pwnguin | the code was already 12345 | 18:18 |
pwnguin | lucky me | 18:20 |
psycho_oreos | it doesn't take long for john to obtain the plaintext combination, with a reasonable computer these days it only takes matter of seconds to break it. Plus the combination consists of only numeric numbers, so really you're dealing with 10^9 | 18:20 |
Macer | wow | 18:21 |
Macer | this vkb in maemo is pretty bad | 18:21 |
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psycho_oreos | -_- | 18:21 |
psycho_oreos | like as if that was ever news | 18:21 |
Macer | sending a txt or im or sms you have to type and then tap to make it go away | 18:21 |
Macer | er | 18:21 |
pwnguin | yea, i bought my mom a tmobile g2 (desire z?) | 18:22 |
Macer | said that wrong | 18:22 |
Macer | pwnguin: it is a piece of shit | 18:22 |
Macer | it will fall apart in 3 months | 18:22 |
pwnguin | its lasted a year thus far | 18:22 |
Macer | lol | 18:22 |
Macer | mine lasted 8 or 9 months | 18:23 |
pwnguin | the keyboard is pretty nice | 18:23 |
pwnguin | the hinge may not be | 18:23 |
Macer | is there a way to get conversations to send on vkb enter? | 18:23 |
Macer | vkb <enter> | 18:23 |
Macer | has anybody tried the maliit vkb? | 18:25 |
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frals | Gizmokid2005: pong | 18:33 |
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Macer | i wish n900 had the stylus keyboard from maemo4 | 18:39 |
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Macer | that thing was rather tolerable | 18:39 |
Macer | this piece of junk is horrible | 18:39 |
ijb | quick question: is there an updated version of telepathy-sofiasip? version 0.6.2-0maemo4+0m5 provides wrong SDP headers when the device is connected to multiple networks. | 18:40 |
Macer | at least hitting enter for xterm removes the vkb and sends txt | 18:40 |
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psycho_oreos | there are other SMS services out there, maybe even chat programs that will handle enter as it is under xterm | 18:44 |
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MohammadAG | k, they're out of iphones and I need my dad with me to transfer the line from his ID to mine | 18:53 |
MohammadAG | oh well, got some headphones anyway | 18:53 |
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Estel_ | I got strange problem with Dosbox, lately... When trying to use it with output=overlay, it segfaults just after dosbox logo, with following errors in logs: | 19:03 |
Estel_ | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory | 19:03 |
Estel_ | ALSA:Can't open sequencer | 19:04 |
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Estel_ | MIDI:Opened device:none | 19:04 |
Estel_ | the weird thing is, that it worked with same settings a month or two ago, and dosbox wasn't updated meantime (for Maemo) | 19:04 |
Estel_ | I thought it's sound related, but tweaking or disabling sound emulation doesnt help. When i use it with output=surface, it works, so it is something display-related... | 19:05 |
Estel_ | Ho ever, output=surface doesn't scale, so every dosbox game/program is very tiny | 19:06 |
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Estel_ | with output=overlay I can't start dosbox, no matter of other settings, due to following errors | 19:06 |
Estel_ | mentioned* not following | 19:06 |
Estel_ | any ideas, anyone? | 19:06 |
Estel_ | especially, the "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" makes me wonder, what the heck does it have to do with output=overlay | 19:08 |
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Estel_ | is it possible that kernel update or CSSU update changed something? can anyone with dosbox, kp48 or CSSU confirm/deny this whole "open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" thing, when running dosbox with output=overlay? | 19:09 |
Estel_ | thanks in advance for any ideas. | 19:10 |
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DocScrutinizer | psyyou recently tried the john for lockcode? | 19:16 |
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DocScrutinizer | meh he's gone | 19:16 |
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DocScrutinizer | pwnguin: actually lucky you, iirc they changed lockcode implementation with 1.2 or 1.3, so this lil hack doesn't work anymore | 19:17 |
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Gizmokid2005 | frals: pingpong? | 20:17 |
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ferenc | hi, anybody here from the Maemo Council? | 20:29 |
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neal | q~. | 21:02 |
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DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: guess, what! :-// my laptop fan sounds like a lawn mower | 21:07 |
DocScrutinizer | well, never clean a running system :-( | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer | o/ | 21:08 |
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pronto | http://i.imgur.com/0LGcf.jpg :( | 21:46 |
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Macer | damn | 23:14 |
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Macer | N900 battery took a nose dive shortly after turning on the wifi | 23:15 |
Macer | went from 25% to 1 | 23:15 |
Macer | the battery eye graph went straight down | 23:15 |
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luke-jr | :D | 23:17 |
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SpeedEvil | Does your router porperly implement powersaving - and is this turned on in the netowrok conneciton? | 23:21 |
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