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| HyperSnyper | anyone got suggestion for places shipping "Genuine" BL-5J batteries to uk | 00:25 |
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| HyperSnyper | orderd 2 of amazon claiming to be genuine but one i've tried only lasts 2 hours usage on fulll charge, and hologram just doesn't look right | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | better go for second soure than for fake genuine | 00:26 |
| HyperSnyper | or if u use 3rd party ones Doc i'd give them ago ;P | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's that incredibly awesome guy on tmo testing *all* batteries you can think of | 00:27 |
| HyperSnyper | tmo ? | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~tmo | 00:28 |
| infobot | tmo is probably http://talk.maemo.org, or trolls, morons, oxes | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568&page=40 | 00:28 |
| HyperSnyper | oh | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | scratch the page=40 | 00:29 |
| jaska | troll.maemo.org should be a cname for talk | 00:29 |
| HyperSnyper | do you use genuine nokia battery in yours ? | 00:30 |
| HyperSnyper | or 3rd party | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 | 00:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Imostly use "genuine" as the one is a second hand one supposedly genuine and works just fine, cost me 20% of original | 00:31 |
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| ShadowJK | probably Japod from DX is highest capacity battery now | 00:34 |
| ShadowJK | not counting mugenbrick | 00:34 |
| HyperSnyper | yeh was just looking at that one | 00:34 |
| HyperSnyper | got another question, how does the n900 choose cell tower to connect to ? | 00:35 |
| HyperSnyper | when im at the end of my road it uses a different cell tower and i get around 400KB/s average 3.5G | 00:35 |
| HyperSnyper | at home its on another an di seem to get around 100KB/s | 00:35 |
| HyperSnyper | is it possible to manuall change | 00:35 |
| HyperSnyper | end of my road being about 200m | 00:36 |
| ShadowJK | as far as I've understood, the modem keeps tracks of towers it can hear, the operator has set thresholds for when a phone should switch | 00:36 |
| SpeedEvil | HyperSnyper: no. | 00:36 |
| HyperSnyper | so that would be hidden in one of the closed source areas ? | 00:36 |
| zogg_laptop | ~ping | 00:36 |
| infobot | ~pong | 00:36 |
| ShadowJK | So it's not possible to manually change | 00:36 |
| SpeedEvil | HyperSnyper: Other than with a dish. | 00:36 |
| SpeedEvil | HyperSnyper: no | 00:36 |
| SpeedEvil | HyperSnyper: It's in a different processor. | 00:36 |
| HyperSnyper | :/ | 00:37 |
| * DocScrutinizer feels honored by http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1053809#post1053809 | 00:37 | |
| ShadowJK | The whole system is kinda built around the operator having control over what tower phones talk to, too | 00:37 |
| HyperSnyper | guessed so, but thought id better ask anyway | 00:37 |
| HyperSnyper | :P | 00:37 |
| ShadowJK | Sometimes I used to play around with blocking the phone's signal long enough that it started searching for something else, then unblocking it, and then it'd sometimes stay on the alternative tower | 00:38 |
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| * SpeedEvil wonders if the n900 has the grunt to do SDR-GSM. | 00:38 | |
| SpeedEvil | I suspect not. | 00:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (<ShadowJK> as far as I've understood, the modem keeps tracks of towers it can hear, the operator has set thresholds for when a phone should switch) yes exactly, called C1, C2 (Criterion) | 00:38 |
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| SpeedEvil | You may be able to find a spot in your hose where it listens to the right tower. | 00:39 |
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| HyperSnyper | not really that fussed about 3.5G at home was just more of an interest in if it's possible | 00:39 |
| ShadowJK | In my house I get 3 kbyte/s in one place, and then 30cm away from that place I get 5Mbit/s | 00:40 |
| ShadowJK | on same tower | 00:40 |
| HyperSnyper | ShadowJK microwave housing work for blocking ? | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | on Nokia 6210 (et al) net monitor you had a chance to force cellmo to a certain tower | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-June/002987.html | 00:40 |
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| ShadowJK | HyperSnyper, I used hands, and also monitored the status with my PC. not practical | 00:40 |
| HyperSnyper | heh | 00:41 |
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| ShadowJK | I had to block it just long enough that it decided it shoudl switch, but not so long that it would realize that signal of all other towers also went down | 00:43 |
| ShadowJK | :P | 00:43 |
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| ShadowJK | grrr, these phillips earphones are driving me mad. I have to ground every gadget that has a wallwart unless I want to get shocked inside my ears | 00:45 |
| HyperSnyper | ¬¬ | 00:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nuke philips | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | get a proper GSM yagi | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | get adapter for the test socket | 00:47 |
| mtnbkr-laptop | HyperSnyper: If you like, I can ship you (2) official Nokia BL-5J batteries. One I got with my N900 and one I bought separately... both are real.legit, and I can also send you one of the extended life (forget the brand but it was the #1rated by that crazy battery testing guy)... My N900 is no workie and I had bought a bunch of spare batteries before it died... | 00:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | plug yagi to N900 and point at BTS you want to connect to | 00:48 |
| mtnbkr-laptop | I'd be happy to just send them to you. I have no need for them and am not looking to make any $ off of it. They are all very new (a few months old with very little use) except for the one marked #1 which came with the N900 | 00:48 |
| mtnbkr-laptop | I can msg you my email if you like... We are in the middle of a ptryy major snow stormin the North east USA and power is on and off and on and off so I may be in and or out of here shortly. | 00:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (force cellmo to a BTS) forced cell reselect (display 17) | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://nobbi.com/download/nmmanual.pdf p.11 >>Display 17 - BTS test<< | 00:55 |
| HyperSnyper | mtnbkr-laptop will pm | 00:55 |
| zogg_laptop | i think i have terrible timeouts | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw I bet, though Nokia didn't care to keep the UI working, all the NetMonitor functions are *still* burried in BB5 FW | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I'd *really | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | * like to see somebody @Nokia drop by here under a pseudonym and leave some hints | 01:01 |
| HyperSnyper | heh | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Hints, root keys of the modem, and source code dump, nothing much. | 01:01 |
| * ShadowJK 'd suspect it relies on bb5 talking to a display and keypad itself | 01:01 | |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: LOL *cough* | 01:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: maybe, maybe not. There'S still the generic flash filesystem that AIUI is supported under BB% as it was under basically 90% of earlier modems | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | BB5 | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: nota bene even on 6210 the NetMonitor was accessible via F-Bus | 01:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and even *needed* F-Bus (or IrDA equiv) to enable NetMon at all | 01:04 |
| jesuschrist | dont get mad, buy an iphone and be happy | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | /kick jesuschrist | 01:05 |
| jesuschrist | :D | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: gnokii, kandy | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | check Nobbi.com | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | best site I ever found about that stuff | 01:07 |
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| ShadowJK | I used gnokii to monitor that hand-covering stuff :P | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | so you should see the likelihood of whole NetMon available via e.g ISI interface as well | 01:12 |
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| ShadowJK | netmon not available on my 6230 actually :) | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | as ISI supports generic AT interface (somewhat, see pnatd), and all the netmonitor things were via that AT interface | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: wut? no netmon on 6230? Probably you just need to enable it | 01:14 |
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| thresh | where do I get the correct timezone for N900? | 02:01 |
| ShadowJK | what? | 02:02 |
| thresh | well, I'm in Moscow | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | rofl | 02:03 |
| ShadowJK | ah | 02:03 |
| thresh | my mobile phone says it's 02:03 now | 02:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oooh | 02:03 |
| thresh | while it's really 03:03 | 02:03 |
| thresh | because of timezone change | 02:03 |
| ShadowJK | does moscow go 5->4 tonight? | 02:03 |
| thresh | no, 4->4 | 02:04 |
| ShadowJK | ... what | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | poor pal, I gues medwedjev's ideas of summer time are not yet implemented in N900 | 02:04 |
| thresh | instead of abandoned 4->3 | 02:04 |
| thresh | yep, we're staying Summer time forever | 02:04 |
| ShadowJK | is moscow staying on summer time for.. ah | 02:04 |
| ShadowJK | So you need an updated timezone file.. guess what, unless you find someone with lots of explosives for an extended campaign of terror, Nokia will refuse to provide an updated timezone file for N900 :P | 02:05 |
| thresh | yeah.. | 02:05 |
| thresh | I can always scp /etc/localtime, but oh well. | 02:05 |
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| thresh | I imagine the amount of hassle on Monday :D | 02:06 |
| ShadowJK | maybe cssu could include timezone update :/ | 02:06 |
| ShadowJK | kinda late now though | 02:06 |
| thresh | hey I can even use that for coming late to work ! | 02:06 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 02:06 |
| thresh | as an excuse | 02:06 |
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| ShadowJK | Hey, you could do "winter"->summer next spring again, and then skip summer->winter change, and gradually slew timezone towards gmt | 02:06 |
| ShadowJK | or um, wait, you're going the other way | 02:07 |
| * ShadowJK confused | 02:07 | |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah summer time all the time is kinda weird | 02:08 |
| thresh | hey I'm not arguing my nano-president laws ;) | 02:08 |
| thresh | In fact I hate Moscow's now stick to GMT+4 | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think our posse here should go 2:00->22:00 in 50 minutes | 02:08 |
| ShadowJK | Some .fi politician suggested we should hop towards CET or GMT, dunno what became of that idea | 02:09 |
| kerio | i'm going back to gmt+1 in an hour | 02:10 |
| * ShadowJK is going to gmt+2 in 1 hour 50 | 02:10 | |
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| HyperSnyper | whats the best way to enable 8 home screens ? | 02:16 |
| HyperSnyper | instal CSSU ? | 02:17 |
| psycho_oreos | yes pretty much | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | CSSU is pretty stable by now, dunno why nobody has the bollocks to fork out a stable branch and announce it as ready for primetime | 02:19 |
| psycho_oreos | well installing CSSU is probably slightly less painful imo than doing it the old fashioned way. If you only wanted to have 8 homescreens and none of the improvements CSSU has included, then installing them through old fashioned way plus a bit of tinkering should work I think | 02:19 |
| psycho_oreos | nobody, including nokia (whom not long ago released PR1.3.1) | 02:20 |
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| HyperSnyper | well cssu just makes me abit nervous as i've still not done "proper" backups yet | 02:21 |
| psycho_oreos | its quite sad really, took nokia that long to realise they needed to release a security patch, but then to ignore what the community decided to do with fixes/updates with its own software they went ahead and released this minor fix without even bothering to look at pushing a major fix | 02:21 |
| HyperSnyper | but i'm deffinetly going to need more home screen space soon | 02:21 |
| psycho_oreos | so whats wrong with making proper backups now? | 02:21 |
| doc|home | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUT39op2Pp8 | 02:22 |
| HyperSnyper | lazy | 02:22 |
| HyperSnyper | and no microsd | 02:22 |
| psycho_oreos | you don't need microsd to perform a proper backup | 02:22 |
| HyperSnyper | can backup to same storage its reading from ? | 02:23 |
| psycho_oreos | all it takes is to move a few things around (if your eMMC is chock-a-block full), perform the backup, and make a copy of the backup elsewhere before deleting the backup. Should the day that you need to revert your backup, you have that copy elsewhere | 02:23 |
| psycho_oreos | depending on which backup you're talking about, the two backup software that I know does backup to eMMC. One does it by default, the other gives you an option with that or microSD | 02:24 |
| HyperSnyper | going to install backupmenu | 02:25 |
| psycho_oreos | that's the latter on I was referring to, it can backup to eMMC but it doesn't allow backing up of eMMC itself, plus (why would you need to when you can enable mass storage mode and dump it from there anyway?) it allows backing up to microsd | 02:26 |
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| HyperSnyper | is restoring via backupmenu safe aswell ? | 02:28 |
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| psycho_oreos | fairly safe, as long as you're not restoring a backup when your device is running out of power, etc | 02:29 |
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| HyperSnyper | same power risk when doing backups ? | 02:30 |
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| psycho_oreos | same obvious power risk :) there's nothing more damaging then restoring a backup when your device is running out of juice. Though the same goes as with making a backup when your device does not work or does not have the proper setup you want (e.g. broken programs, etc), as restoring it will bring them all back | 02:37 |
| SpeedEvil | rsync | 02:40 |
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| psycho_oreos | I've tried rsync before through sshd many times before, I almost always get that reboot :) | 02:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wut? | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | it does a rsync every day here, and I never faced any problems other than an inevitable CPU load peak | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway for HyperSnyper doing a backup via backupmenu should be as painless and safe as milk | 02:50 |
| HyperSnyper | im alergic to milk | 02:50 |
| HyperSnyper | :x | 02:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | listen, backupmenu stores a proper tarball backip of / and /opt to eMMC, really nothing that could go wrong with it (except backup aborting and backup file corrupt -> fix any problem causing the abort and redo). Installing CSSU never corrupts your eMMC MyDocs data, not even your homedir. Restore, if ever needed, will restore to a freshly flashed rootfs anyway, so what could go wrong? it won't nuke the backup file on restore. And in the end | 03:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | doing a copy of your whole eMMC is absolutely simple via mass storage mode. No uSD needed | 03:02 |
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| HyperSnyper | wasnt that i don't trust u Doc, i actually am allergic to milk ;P | 03:03 |
| jonwil | hmmm, I wonder how this program can write to gconf without there being a valid gconf schema entry for it. | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | which program? | 03:08 |
| jonwil | custom-operator-name-wdiget | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | ummm | 03:09 |
| jonwil | not mine, something someone else wrote | 03:09 |
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| jonwil | Its writing to gconf without creating a schema entry | 03:09 |
| jonwil | and I want to find out how :) | 03:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WOW, incredible how TV EPG gets fsckd up by summer time back leap | 03:50 |
| nox- | heh | 03:51 |
| ShadowJK | 7 minutes to time leap :D | 03:53 |
| HyperSnyper | hmm is there much demand for epg apps ? | 03:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actually we have a ghost hour since 53 minutes here | 03:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | 02A:53 | 03:53 |
| HyperSnyper | prob the one area i might be able to help in, done alot of stuff for dreambox sat recievers and scrapping epg data from satellite/radiotimes :P | 03:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | TV programs starting during that ghost hour are hard to handle correctly in an EPG that doesn't have special means to deal with this situation | 03:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually some programs might end before they start | 03:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | as that'S obviously impossible, the whole EPG data is structured like there was no back leap / ghost hour | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | but TV time now is already back to winter time, while EPG still has summer time based start and end times | 03:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so I'm watching a show now that according to EPG starts in 55 minutes | 03:57 |
| nox- | what you watching? :) | 03:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno, some XXX island | 03:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | just watched NCIS | 03:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually I'm not interested in the program in TV, but rather in the firmware program in my TV ;-D | 03:00 |
| HyperSnyper | heh | 03:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/in TV/on TV/ | 03:00 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: actually I'm not interested in the program on TV, but rather in the firmware program in my TV ;-D | 03:00 |
| HyperSnyper | you use satellite ? Doc ? | 03:01 |
| * SpeedEvil is currently considering underclocking his refrigerator. | 03:01 | |
| DocScrutinizer | err, DVB-T | 03:01 |
| HyperSnyper | ahh | 03:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | underclocking fridge sounds extremely geeky | 03:02 |
| SpeedEvil | VFD on the compressor to make it use less power. | 03:03 |
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| * nox- outs himself as the crazy guy who runs vdr on freebsd... :) | 03:05 | |
| nox- | (i have dvb-s2 and dvb-t) | 03:06 |
| SpeedEvil | It's step 0 of the project to do the same thing on an A/C unit. | 03:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hah | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-30 02:59:27] <DocScrutinizer> just watched NCIS | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-30 02:00:27] <DocScrutinizer> actually I'm not interested in the program in TV, bu | 03:24 |
| nox- | hehe | 03:25 |
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| jargon- | how do i change the hostname on my n900? | 04:24 |
| jargon- | just change the entry in /etc/hostname? | 04:25 |
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| ShadowJK | I wonder if it changes if you change it in bluetooth settings | 04:28 |
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| jargon- | ShadowJK: hmm. i haven't used the bluetooth yet | 04:36 |
| jargon- | hmm. it's not the exact same hostname in btooth | 04:36 |
| jargon- | in btooth it's 'Nokia N900' and in /etc/hostname it's 'Nokia-N900-51-1' | 04:37 |
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| jargon- | usually on my boxes i change the hostname in /etc/hostname then run `/etc/init.d/hostname start` | 04:38 |
| jargon- | couldn't find 'hostname' in /etc/init.d on my n900,tho | 04:38 |
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| AlmightyOatmeal | jargon-: are you trying to change your BT name or actual hostname of the device? | 04:51 |
| jargon- | AlmightyOatmeal: actual hostname | 04:53 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | jargon-: have you tried editing /etc/hostname and rebooting? | 04:54 |
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| jargon- | AlmightyOatmeal: rebooting now | 04:54 |
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| jargon- | AlmightyOatmeal: worked. thanks :-) | 04:56 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | np | 04:57 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | i personally like my hostname as Nokia-N810-43-7 so i know what device i'm working with ;) | 04:57 |
| jargon- | well i only have one device so that's no problem for me :-) | 04:57 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | i have at least 4 ssh sessions open at one time, plus when i ssh into it, it's a handy reminder, though i could tweak it even more.. hmm | 04:58 |
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| AlmightyOatmeal | i could tweak it to Nokia-N810-OS2008 | 04:58 |
| jargon- | lol | 04:59 |
| jargon- | i use different shell prompt color schemes for the different boxes i ssh into. learned that lesson the hard way, when i `rm -r *` on the wrong box once | 05:00 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | i use all bash (for user) and csh (for root) with a user@host # prompt | 05:01 |
| AlmightyOatmeal | brb, gf hijacking laptop | 05:01 |
| jargon- | lol | 05:01 |
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| Psi | i just love the n900 camera | 09:17 |
| Psi | http://psi.abcom.co.nz/ic1.jpg | 09:17 |
| Psi | does macro so well | 09:17 |
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| freemangordon | ~seen Pali | 09:39 |
| infobot | pali <~quassel@rohar.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 29d 19h 30m 31s ago, saying: 'if we update/create new wrapper for that it is possible'. | 09:39 |
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| cityLights | mohamadag: morning? | 09:42 |
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| Macer | yeah. think i will get an e7 | 10:14 |
| Macer | heh | 10:14 |
| Macer | as long as the usb port doesnt fall out im happy | 10:14 |
| Macer | :) | 10:14 |
| psycho_oreos | gfy | 10:14 |
| Macer | psycho_oreos: heh... i still have a n900 otw | 10:15 |
| Macer | wish i could clone my sim | 10:15 |
| Macer | so i wouldnt have to swap it | 10:15 |
| Macer | but the e7 looks good.. symbian isnt a bad os... just not as hipster as ios or android | 10:16 |
| Macer | i was going to see if a duracell mygrid power clip fit the n900 | 10:17 |
| Macer | that way i never have to touch the usb port | 10:17 |
| Macer | bonus points if it fits over a silicon skin :) | 10:17 |
| * psycho_oreos is evilishly thinking that someone should really indicate the reference to e7 is ot | 10:18 | |
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| Macer | ot? | 10:21 |
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| psycho_oreos | offtopic | 10:24 |
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| woldrich | Psi, indeed :) http://i.japh.se/_photo/n900_surv.jpg | 11:58 |
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| user____ | i want to use my n900 as a usb router but something is strange. if the gprs0 is working (connected via umts to the inet) usb0 seems to fail because i cant ping the local ip assigned to usb0 from a shell on my n900 (as root) but i can ping my laptop. my laptop cant ping the n900 no matter what i do | 12:47 |
| user____ | please give me a hint because right now it seems like a bug to me | 12:47 |
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| user____ | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_router | 12:50 |
| dm8tbr | iptables? | 12:50 |
| user____ | this is the guide iam using | 12:50 |
| user____ | i checked iptables -L and also -t nat but nothing was set | 12:51 |
| user____ | so this cant disable the ping | 12:51 |
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| user____ | dm8tbr: any other idea? | 12:52 |
| user____ | maybe a missing route? | 12:52 |
| dm8tbr | no idea, never done this. was just a random thought | 12:53 |
| user____ | i also removed all routes once and still it would not enable ping from lap to n900 | 12:53 |
| user____ | if i disable the inet connection the ping works | 12:53 |
| user____ | but why cant i ping the ip of usb0 from the n900??? | 12:54 |
| user____ | is there a firmware/routing prevention in maemo??!! | 12:55 |
| SpeedEvil | icd is the closed-source routing daemon that sets up and tears down connections. | 12:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Is there a reason you're not just using modem mode? | 12:56 |
| user____ | does that work with linux? | 12:57 |
| jacekowski | yes | 12:57 |
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| user____ | where is a guide to that? | 12:58 |
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| user____ | thanks anyway | 13:00 |
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| LaoLang_cool | sorry, a newbie question, if the FM function is ready on n900, or I have to install app to let n900 support it? | 13:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | you need to install fmradio to use the receiver | 13:37 |
| djszapi | Hi! Is it possible to detect from the build system (let it cmake for instance) whether or not I am on Fremantle/Diablo and other variants ? | 13:37 |
| LaoLang_cool | SpeedEvil: thank you for answer :) | 13:38 |
| SpeedEvil | Use the 'C' FMradio, not the python one. | 13:42 |
| SpeedEvil | The python one is hope.ss. | 13:42 |
| FIQ|n900 | will maemo be happy if an user password is set? | 13:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes, you can set a user password. | 13:42 |
| SpeedEvil | It doesn't affect normal use. | 13:42 |
| FIQ|n900 | interesting | 13:42 |
| FIQ|n900 | how does maemo log in then? :D | 13:42 |
| Macer | ssh | 13:43 |
| SpeedEvil | It doesn't really | 13:43 |
| Macer | :) | 13:43 |
| Macer | lol | 13:43 |
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| cityLights | ~seen MohammadAG | 13:56 |
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| infobot | mohammadag <~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22h 7m 33s ago, saying: 'I can't remember who, but a grep for red / bezeqint will help'. | 13:56 |
| cityLights | ok, I guess I may need to buy the N9 in bruselss this feb | 13:58 |
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| FIQ|n900 | Hm, can I modigy the img installer to use my SD card (yes, all of it, i.e. repartitioning it)? | 14:14 |
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| Hurrian | which installer, easy debian? | 14:14 |
| FIQ|n900 | yes | 14:16 |
| Hurrian | you need to make sure maemo doesnt care about the first partition not being FAT32 | 14:16 |
| FIQ|n900 | oh, sorry for me being unspecific | 14:17 |
| FIQ|n900 | I'm sure maemo will blame me for the SD card format being unsupported | 14:17 |
| FIQ|n900 | at least it did before when I tried out meego | 14:17 |
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| Hurrian | check maewiki: ext2 on microsdcard | 14:18 |
| Hurrian | arrrgh, swkbd is annoying | 14:18 |
| Hurrian | once you get maemo to stop complaining, add mmc1 to tracker's no index directory | 14:19 |
| FIQ|n900 | I've already turned the tracker off completly for various reasons | 14:20 |
| Hurrian | then edit .chroot to point to /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 14:20 |
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| FIQ|n900 | hmm | 14:20 |
| FIQ|n900 | so let's see here | 14:20 |
| FIQ|n900 | I can install the img file, then dd it to /dev/mmcblk1p1, then do what you said? | 14:22 |
| Hurrian | yup | 14:22 |
| Hurrian | ugh. honeycomb's task switcher is confusing. | 14:23 |
| FIQ|n900 | Hm, but what about if I want to use all the space in the card?? | 14:23 |
| FIQ|n900 | Make an ext2fs manually and just cp -r everything? | 14:23 |
| Hurrian | dd it to mmcblk1 | 14:23 |
| FIQ|n900 | would that work? | 14:23 |
| FIQ|n900 | Hmm | 14:23 |
| Hurrian | it's a blkdev anyways | 14:23 |
| Hurrian | not like linux would care | 14:24 |
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| FIQ|n900 | s/??/?/ | 14:24 |
| Hurrian | just remove mmc1 from genfstab | 14:24 |
| Macer | http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support | 14:24 |
| Hurrian | dd if=ezdeb.ext2.img of=/dev/mmcblk1 | 14:25 |
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| Hurrian | @macer not like they care once the money's changed hands, really | 14:28 |
| Hurrian | also, not like they're obligated to | 14:28 |
| Hurrian | that's why it's handy to have an unlocked bootloader | 14:29 |
| Hurrian | the corps dont really give a rat's ass about support | 14:29 |
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| Hurrian | same is true for almost every other hw manufacturer | 14:29 |
| Hurrian | brb switching to desktop | 14:30 |
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| Macer | heh | 14:35 |
| Macer | at least n900 owners can say they have the latest maemo? | 14:36 |
| Macer | :) | 14:36 |
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| FIQ|n900 | :P | 14:40 |
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| ruskie | Macer, latest and last ;) | 14:46 |
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| sp3000 | Hurrian: tbh I'd mostly expect it to be a matter of whichever party deals with end-users, being risk-averse | 14:54 |
| sp3000 | and minimizing supported configurations | 14:55 |
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| sp3000 | so I'd wager on portfolio breadth, and the number/influence of timid business layers between makers and users | 15:01 |
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| sp3000 | a certain produce-oriented outfit compared to in the article has taken the approach of apparently minimizing both, so being able to dtrt is not so surprising | 15:04 |
| sp3000 | with android I don't suppose it works out that way ;) | 15:04 |
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| luke-jr | Macer: I'd hope Maemo users know to not trust Nokia by now :P | 15:49 |
| luke-jr | Maemo 5 failed to ever deliver on even the basic features, thanks to Nokia | 15:49 |
| luke-jr | eg, 720p video recording (or even any usable video recording really), automatic GPS updates to IM status, etc | 15:50 |
| Macer | i thought the video recording was ok | 15:51 |
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| MohammadAG | and GPS updates worked fine for me | 15:51 |
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| Macer | me too | 15:51 |
| luke-jr | MohammadAG: they die as soon as you lose connectivity, until you reboot | 15:52 |
| luke-jr | video recording drops frames like crazy | 15:52 |
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| luke-jr | often for whole seconds | 15:52 |
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| robbiethe1st | Disable tracker, solve problem! | 15:52 |
| luke-jr | both of these bugs were closed WONTFIX by Nokia | 15:52 |
| Macer | i honestly never had a problem with the video recording | 15:52 |
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| Macer | i used it often | 15:52 |
| luke-jr | robbiethe1st: I haven't had tracker enabled in years | 15:52 |
| robbiethe1st | Then OC the damned thing? | 15:52 |
| luke-jr | no | 15:52 |
| Macer | most bugs were WONTFIX | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | it's already OC'd too much | 15:53 |
| robbiethe1st | I'm running mine at 1ghz+; works fine for me. | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | WONTFIX = acknowledged it | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | WONTFIX = acknowledged it's broken | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | robbiethe1st: until it dies an early death | 15:53 |
| Macer | or that they believe it works how it is supposed to work | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | Macer: nope | 15:53 |
| Macer | my im gps updated just fine | 15:53 |
| luke-jr | and since it'll probably be 3 years until someone comes out with a replacement device, I need N900 to last that long | 15:53 |
| robbiethe1st | My first one lasted over a year at that; until the USB port broke. If it dies early, /SO?? | 15:54 |
| robbiethe1st | Just pick up a spare. | 15:54 |
| Macer | and my video recorded just fine as well | 15:54 |
| luke-jr | robbiethe1st: so you can't get a spare anymore | 15:54 |
| robbiethe1st | I just did, off ebay. | 15:54 |
| robbiethe1st | There's plenty of them around. | 15:54 |
| luke-jr | also, that costs $ | 15:54 |
| Macer | i did too | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: nope, "believe it works like should" is INVALID, not WONTFIX | 15:54 |
| luke-jr | I don't want to waste $ on a defective product | 15:54 |
| Macer | 255 on ebay | 15:54 |
| Macer | DocScrutinizer: ah ok | 15:54 |
| Macer | so WONTFIX = DONTCARE | 15:55 |
| luke-jr | I just hope some Android phone is rootable to the point I can flash a vanilla Linux on it | 15:55 |
| luke-jr | :/ | 15:55 |
| Macer | luke-jr: i just ordered a new one | 15:55 |
| Macer | honesttly... i want an e7 :) | 15:55 |
| luke-jr | Macer: WONTFIX = it's broken, but we won't take 5 minutes to fix it | 15:55 |
| Macer | heh | 15:55 |
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| Macer | was it a closed section of maemo? | 15:55 |
| Macer | but i loved my n900 | 15:56 |
| Macer | but alas.. my usb port broke as well | 15:56 |
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| Macer | this time i am just using a duracell mygrid microusb power clip and never touching the usb port lol | 15:57 |
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| luke-jr | how to flash w/o USB? :P | 15:57 |
| Macer | but the e7 actually looks pretty nice for a symbian device | 15:57 |
| Macer | cheap too | 15:58 |
| FIQ | <luke-jr> I just hope some Android phone is rootable to the point I can flash a vanilla Linux on it | 15:58 |
| FIQ | <luke-jr> :/ | 15:58 |
| robbiethe1st | Personally, I'm being careful with my new one until I can pull it apart and solder the top of the port to the surrounding metal framework. | 15:58 |
| FIQ | coouldn't you flash some old WP6.5 phones with pretty much whatever you wanted? | 15:58 |
| robbiethe1st | Also, flashing without USB? we have BM and USB testpoints for a reason. | 15:58 |
| FIQ | IIRC someone flashed ubuntu mobile onto an Xperia X1 | 15:58 |
| luke-jr | Macer: pretty sure that Duracell thing won't work on N900 | 15:58 |
| FIQ | (yes, old, i know, but still, there's possibilities :P) | 15:58 |
| luke-jr | Macer: looks like it blocks against the lens | 15:58 |
| luke-jr | FIQ: old = old | 15:59 |
| FIQ | my point is, it works, on some devices | 15:59 |
| FIQ | wouldn't be suprised if you could do this to pretty new devices as well | 15:59 |
| luke-jr | the hard part is the DRM crap | 15:59 |
| luke-jr | and they conveniently ignore the GPL | 15:59 |
| luke-jr | anyhow, bbl | 16:00 |
| maour | HI, i need bzip2 package http://maemo.org/packages/view/bzip2/ on my N900 device, maemo pr1.3 , it is on "Fremantle SDK free i386" repository , how should i add this to my catalogues? i mean web address , distribution and components? | 16:00 |
| FIQ | maour: protip: don't | 16:01 |
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| maour | FIQ: i didn't get it, what do you mean ? | 16:02 |
| FIQ | DON'T do it | 16:03 |
| maour | why | 16:03 |
| maour | i need bzip2 , then how to do it | 16:03 |
| FIQ | in the best case you get many broken packages | 16:03 |
| FIQ | worst: gz, you have to reflash | 16:03 |
| maour | i want to install nitdroid | 16:04 |
| FIQ | um | 16:04 |
| maour | so i need bzip2 , should i download it's deb package and install it manually ? | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | the pkgs from i386 repo usually run umm... suboptimal on N900 | 16:04 |
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| maour | then should i try with this one ? > Maemo 5 device SSU repository (>= PR1.2) | 16:05 |
| FIQ | lol, I didn't even realise that i386 wouldn't work at all :P | 16:05 |
| FIQ | but what i told still stands - don't don't don't DON'T do it | 16:05 |
| maour | i just need that package , | 16:05 |
| FIQ | ok maour, look | 16:05 |
| FIQ | 1: N900 can't run i386 packages, it's an armel device | 16:06 |
| FIQ | 2: I'm sure you can manage bzip packages with packages in the "normal" repositories | 16:06 |
| FIQ | but i'm not an package database :p | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I got bzip2 on my N900, quite likely from some pkg like e.g binutils or dunno what | 16:06 |
| FIQ | yeah | 16:06 |
| FIQ | doesn't even busybox come with bzip2? | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache policy bzip2 | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | bzip2: | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Installed: 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Candidate: 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Version table: | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | *** 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 0 | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages | 16:08 |
| FIQ | hm | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# busybox bzip2 --help | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | bzip2: applet not found | 16:09 |
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| FIQ | hmm | 16:09 |
| FIQ | I just ran "busybox" | 16:09 |
| FIQ | and in that command list, bzip2 existed | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 16:09 |
| FIQ | hmmm, wait | 16:10 |
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| FIQ | i have the busybox-power package, or whatever it was named | 16:10 |
| FIQ | that installed a newer version of busybox | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAH | 16:10 |
| FIQ | right :p | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | maour: apt-cache search bzip2 | 16:10 |
| FIQ|n900 | BusyBox v1.19.2 (Debian 1.19.2power1) multi-call binary. | 16:10 |
| FIQ | etc | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | only reason messybox got not nuked off my device to next galaxy is I suspect sysinit will still need it | 16:11 |
| FIQ | :p | 16:12 |
| FIQ | Rarely uses it, changed my default shell to bash | 16:12 |
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| FIQ | but at least it's more useful than the maemo version | 16:12 |
| FIQ | s/maemo/vanilla/ | 16:12 |
| infobot | FIQ meant: but at least it's more useful than the vanilla version | 16:12 |
| maour | sorry , i don't undrestand repositories! i have extra-devel but what is this ? Fremantle Extras-devel free armel | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | which was enough of good reason for me to not replace it | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | again rgarding initscripts | 16:13 |
| maour | components? which i have free and non-free on my catalogues | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | err yup | 16:14 |
| maour | it seems there isn't any entry named armel ! | 16:14 |
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| FIQ | huh? | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | armel looks odd, no idea where from you got that | 16:14 |
| maour | http://maemo.org/packages/view/nitdroid-installer/ | 16:15 |
| maour | Repository | 16:15 |
| FIQ | maybe from: [15:04:27] <FIQ> 1: N900 can't run i386 packages, it's an armel device | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 16:15 |
| FIQ | maour: what do you expect from NITDroid? | 16:15 |
| maour | to install android on my device | 16:16 |
| maour | n900 | 16:16 |
| FIQ | don't expect it to be your main OS of use | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, no support available from me for nitdroid | 16:16 |
| maour | sure | 16:16 |
| maour | i just want to test my Qt apps on android :) | 16:16 |
| FIQ | it's slow, slow and er, did i forgot.. slow! | 16:16 |
| maour | better than buying an android device | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | and multiboot is so.... *beeep* | 16:16 |
| maour | i have meego right now | 16:17 |
| maour | dual boot | 16:17 |
| FIQ | maour: use the emulator | 16:17 |
| FIQ | in android SDK | 16:17 |
| mr_jrt | They still not fixed nitdroid to use uboot yet? | 16:17 |
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| FIQ | it's slow, but better than NITDroid | 16:17 |
| FIQ | what's wrong with multiboot? | 16:17 |
| FIQ | not that i use any of them, just wondering :P | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | maour: meego dualboot is sth completely different than multiboot used by nitdridiot | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~maemo-multiboot | 16:18 |
| infobot | i heard maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED | 16:18 |
| FIQ | let's get GRUB on the device! | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | we got u-boot on the device | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | grub is not exactly suited for the arm NAND boot architecture | 16:19 |
| FIQ | :p | 16:19 |
| FIQ | i was joking | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | and u-boot is what meego uses | 16:19 |
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| FIQ | speaking of u-boot, how does it store boot priority? | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | while multiboot is **falshing a new kernel** :-O on each boot | 16:20 |
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| FIQ | sounds... wrong | 16:20 |
| FIQ | i was pretty tired of it having MeeGo as default choose (probably due to it looking in the SD card after something bootable before looking /boot in the NAND, but i didn't have any idea of how to change it | 16:20 |
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| FIQ | of course you could cancel the timer and do "run noloboot" | 16:21 |
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| FIQ | but being able to change the defaults would make me more happy to keep u-boot and meego :p | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's looking to uSD and there for a special file named /boot/bootmenu or whatever, and if that file esists it will read it and use the settings in there afaik | 16:21 |
| FIQ | even some nice menu like the one GRUB uses would be fine for me | 16:22 |
| FIQ | whatever | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | check that file | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | afaik you can have menu | 16:23 |
| FIQ | if only I can find my DS... | 16:24 |
| FIQ | (what, don't you like my way of storing my SD card somewhere outside n900?) | 16:24 |
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| robbiethe1st | DocScrutinizer, know much about ad-hoc networking and the N900? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1115948#post1115948 | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | not really | 16:31 |
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| FIQ | hm | 16:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: esp since I read sth about that redmond borne virus there in this post | 16:34 |
| robbiethe1st | heh | 16:34 |
| robbiethe1st | See, that's my problem if nothing else is. But I can't change that computer /too/ much, as it's not technically mine... | 16:35 |
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| Juozapas | hey | 16:50 |
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| Juozapas | i sent sms to wrong number which not exist and now i received messages from my operator that this number not exist non-stop. I think it's because my n900 try to send that message again and again and again. how can i stop it ? | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't think it should resend | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway wait a minute, I'll look up for you where outbox for SMS is cached | 16:53 |
| Juozapas | k, thx | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 16:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | background info: http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 16:55 |
| Juozapas | k thx | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | HTH | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | watching the sunset in class is something I'd like to do everyday :/ | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 16:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Juozapas: >>...check to see if /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt contains an entry. If you haven't sent any other SMSes, it's a safe bet that this message scheduled to go out is the one produced by [...] <your invalid destination number SMS> << | 16:57 |
| jabis | MohammadAG: which class are you attending to that steals your free tiem x) | 16:58 |
| Juozapas | DocScrutinizer: yeah, there is an entry there | 16:58 |
| Juozapas | i have to remove it ? | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | my dir is completely empty | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | so probably it's save to #> mv /var/spool/sms/outgoing/* ~/mySMSbackup | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | so probably it's save to #> mv /var/spool/sms/outgoing/* ~/mySMSbackup/ | 17:00 |
| Juozapas | k i will try | 17:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | less /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt shows one line here, though I got no SMS problems | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>If the SMS cannot be sent (no balance on SIM card, no network coverage), the SMS may still be on the phone waiting to be sent. You can check to see if there are any files in /var/spool/sms/outgoing and check to see if /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt contains an entry. If you haven't sent any other SMSes, it's a safe bet that this message scheduled to go out is the one produced by Cherry. Removing the file in /var/spool/sms/outgoing and the | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | entry from regs_out.txt is safe, but make a backup just in case.<< | 17:03 |
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| Juozapas | ok | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | and... you may want to go to flight mode to accomplish this task :-D | 17:04 |
| Juozapas | yeah, i just skip pin code | 17:05 |
| Juozapas | so no connection to operator | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | then reboot after you removed the cruft | 17:05 |
| Juozapas | k | 17:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash your operator for sending back an inappropriate NAK msg | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there've been cases where here in Germany some guys had a 50k of SMs on their bill, due to that | 17:07 |
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| Juozapas | omg | 17:07 |
| Juozapas | how can I avoid that ? | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | blame your operator | 17:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or maybe blame Nokia, if you're really the first one to run into a bug in maemo-SMS stack | 17:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I honestly doubt that's a bug in Maemo | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | I might test eventually | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | for sure your SMS dispatcher shall stop NAKing same msg after a certain timeout | 17:09 |
| Juozapas | ok, i removed entry from regs_out.txt and and moved /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | but I think they send an outright wrong response code | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, don't mopve the whole dir, just the content | 17:10 |
| Juozapas | but it's stupid that they take money even if the number is wrong | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, there are a number of stupidities in that, none of which they can keep up on court | 17:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if they take money, they must not NAK, as evidently a SMS that costs money is a valid SMS | 17:12 |
| Juozapas | yeap | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | NAK is only when transmission TO them failed | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | meaning "please resend, couldn't read you" | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | and even this MUST stop after max say 100 tries | 17:13 |
| Juozapas | ok, looks like it helped | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | good | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | now have a nice phonecall to some hotline for a but of shouting | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | bit* | 17:14 |
| Juozapas | ;]] | 17:14 |
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| Juozapas | fuck | 17:15 |
| Juozapas | looks like i moved all dir /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | mkdir /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ls -ld /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 2011-10-29 00:48 /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | root; mkdir /var/spool/sms/outgoing; chmod 755 /var/spool/sms/outgoing | 17:19 |
| Juozapas | yeah thx | 17:19 |
| Juozapas | it already in right permissions | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 17:19 |
| Juozapas | i dont need to make chmod | 17:19 |
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| FIQ | I buyed my phone march 2009, I don't know exactly what warranty I got, but say it lasted 1½ year. Then, it breaks (yay microUSB port problem) and I got a brand new N900. What happens with the warranty then? I guess it still counts from my first N900, or would it renew itself? | 17:27 |
| FIQ | I guess it's the first, but I don't know how warranties work :D | 17:27 |
| SpeedEvil | It's the first | 17:27 |
| FIQ | Yeah, like i thought then | 17:27 |
| SpeedEvil | Nokia now has my n900. | 17:28 |
| SpeedEvil | (USB fell off, touchscreen died, 2g modem was dodgy. | 17:28 |
| FIQ | Heh | 17:28 |
| SpeedEvil | The USB fallin goff was my fault. | 17:28 |
| SpeedEvil | And I would not have returned it for that. | 17:29 |
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| FIQ | hm, so you have no N900 now? | 17:30 |
| SpeedEvil | I have a backup one. | 17:30 |
| FIQ | ok | 17:31 |
| SpeedEvil | If I don't manage to get a n9 from my watranty repair - which I doubt - I'll probably uif I can't get a repaired n900, be doing the sell on ebay + buy new thing. | 17:32 |
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| Juozapas | DocScrutinizer: is it normal that i still have entry in regs_out.txt? | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I have an entry in this file, yes | 17:36 |
| Juozapas | k, thx | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | friggin winter time :-/ | 17:39 |
| * SpeedEvil breaths out, and does not quite see frost. | 17:41 | |
| SpeedEvil | This means it's >10.5C or so. | 17:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but it's going dark here while we have 17:00 | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | 10.5°C at my window :-D | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | to the digit | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | decimal | 18:02 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | Hello, I'm trying to stream from my n900s cam to my computer using this little gstreamer script http://pastie.org/2783489 but I only recive very dark images, any ideas what might be wrong? | 18:54 |
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| ruskie | bad lighting? | 18:56 |
| dm8tbr | lid closed? ;) | 18:56 |
| ruskie | hehe | 18:56 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | dm8tbr: I'm using the front cam to test atm, and I can see my rooms light | 18:59 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | dm8tbr: same issue with the front cam and an open lid | 18:59 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | okay I've just used a xvidimagesink to debug the issue | 19:05 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | and it looks like the signal I get from the v4l2src is bad to begin with | 19:05 |
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| freemangordon | you should use v4l2camsrc | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | and it is xvimagesink | 19:07 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | freemangordon: yes that was a typo :) | 19:07 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | freemangordon: but I did type it correctly in the shell, I'll check the v4l2camsrc | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | but you camerasource is incorrect | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:07 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | same issue with v4l2camsrc | 19:09 |
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| M4rtinK | FYI, modRana V0.29 is out, go get it from Extras-devel while it's hot! :) | 21:06 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | what is modRana? | 21:06 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | why would I want it? | 21:07 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | and why do I want it without knowing what it is?! | 21:07 |
| MohammadAG | need some kind of silent alarm | 21:07 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | if an alarm is silent, how are you supposed to hear it? | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | good point :-D | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | viral marketing :) | 21:08 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | well | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | modRana is a GPS navigation system | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: dunno what you're after, but I guess alarmed can do it no matter what | 21:08 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | could extra-devel be responsible for breaking my gstreamer-tools? | 21:09 |
| ruskie | always | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, actually *I* ate them | 21:09 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | M4rtinK: online or offline? | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | KaffeeJunky123, Vibra or something | 21:10 |
| M4rtinK | it does online routing, voice navigation, online address/POI/Wikipedia search, map overlay support, efficient tile storage, POI database, track logging, etc. :) | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | I need a way to wake up early without waking up my roommates | 21:10 |
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| M4rtinK | KaffeeJunky123: routing is currently online through Google Directions | 21:10 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | M4rtinK: do you plan to add support for local routing daemons? | 21:11 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | there's one for maemo, I can't remember the name though | 21:11 |
| M4rtinK | yep, offline routing using Monav (already used by Marble) is a work in progress :) | 21:11 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | marble has a funky interface though | 21:12 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | entering routing points is a pain | 21:12 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | maybe because it's global routing by default :P | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: alarmed -t mon:07:30 -E "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_vibrator_pattern_activate string:PatternIncomingCall" | 21:13 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, IMO its interface is a bit too complicated for what it does | 21:14 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | and it doesn't offer a proper touch interface | 21:15 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | so you can't use it for serious in car navigation | 21:15 |
| M4rtinK | but I really like how it handles the routing data for Monav - they have it hosted on a server somewhere and the user just selects a which country to download and everything is handled automatically | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | that's why i bought an iPod | 21:16 |
| MohammadAG | I really want waze on the N9/50 | 21:16 |
| M4rtinK | KaffeeJunky123: well, then check out the modRana interface and tell ma what you think about it :) | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | learn to find your way without navi! ;-P | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | will come in handy on next mega solar storm | 21:17 |
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| KaffeeJunky123 | DocScrutinizer: I only use navigation in towns that I don't have a map of and it pretty much does its job there | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus you even have a way to contact chicks and ask for the way ;-P | 21:18 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | I don't like driving with turn by turn navigation at all | 21:18 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | Yeah, ride the family car and hook up with some chicks, that's a nice plan | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | i like knowing where there's a speed trap | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | I'm responsible and all, but being a new driver my foot might slip a bit more on the gas | 21:19 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | I just keep with the limits | 21:19 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | they're mostly sane in germany though | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | KaffeeJunky123, 70 on a 5 lane road is sad | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | kmph, not miles | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | KaffeeJunky123: so teach your kids to do it ;-) | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | so I go 140 there | 21:19 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | what the | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | one asking for the way, the other one lifting the purse meanwhile | 21:20 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | are you talking about straight 5 lane roads? | 21:20 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | god I love german motor ways, especially those without speed limit | 21:20 |
| jacekowski | mph? | 21:20 |
| jacekowski | KaffeeJunky123: have you ever been there? | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | Israel, land of the living pedestrian's nightmare | 21:21 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | jacekowski: where? | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | other folks got pavements, Israel got highways to each door | 21:21 |
| jacekowski | in germany | 21:21 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | no, I only live there | 21:21 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | :o | 21:21 |
| jacekowski | well, i've had a chance to see those motorways | 21:22 |
| jacekowski | it's nice untill some moron drives too fast and has an accident | 21:22 |
| jacekowski | and blocks motorway for few hours | 21:22 |
| jacekowski | or somebody changes lane in front of you | 21:22 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | oh well that happens | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | you have to learn to deal with that | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, pedestrians don't belong on such roads :p | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | and there are no pedestrians on it | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | accidentsa completely blocking highways are actually rather rarae | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | rare | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | I got up to 200kmph once | 21:23 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | I once almost had an accident because of a truck switching lanes without looking | 21:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Blocking motorways technically - no. | 21:23 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | and a tard in an SUV was driving on the lane left to me | 21:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Blocking motorways due to the cleanup needing to close the road for safety is fairly common | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | Car speedometer has 260 as max | 21:24 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | and that idiot managed to lock me in for quite some time | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | and for the idiot before you suddenly changing to left lane, you have to either go slower, or stop living, or learn to anticipate that | 21:24 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | I was ofc breaking to lower my speed | 21:24 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | and that dude left to me hit his break too <_< | 21:24 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | so I almost got squeezed in between an SUV and a truck | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | people can be retarded | 21:25 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | gladly the SUV driver found his gas again soon enough | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | was on an 80kmph road once driving normally | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | and the car in front of brakes and stops | 21:25 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | had to hump him off his lane though | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | so I fully pressed the brake and turned right | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | hit my mirror on his car | 21:26 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | well | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | luckily, both were white, so meh | 21:26 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | you normally should be able to break in time | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | not when he stops out of nowhere | 21:26 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | or were his breaklights broken? | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | KaffeeJunky123, it's like a highway | 21:26 |
| MohammadAG | you don't stop on a highway | 21:27 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | usually you don't | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | oh yeah, speaking of broken lights | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | was driving on a dark road yesterday | 21:27 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | haha | 21:27 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | I can imagine your story :o | 21:27 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | omg I always turn every channel into ot talk sorry guys | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet Israel is one of the insane countries that have lights all the way down each motorway | 21:28 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - you're not interrupting the vibrant flow of dev-chat. | 21:28 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - israel is about four miles across. | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol, east-west yes | 21:29 |
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| MohammadAG | and there was a car with NO lights | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | almost hit it, its paint was matte | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | light didn't reflect off of it | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | luckily I noticed it and went to the right lane | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | I'm thinking of changing my car's colour | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, roads in Israeli areas are epic | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | areas between Israeli and Arab places, not so much | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, they need to dissipate all the excess electric energy that's created during plutonium production X-P | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | so it's just fine to place a lantern every 50m on each highway | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | japan and taiwan do same | 21:32 |
| MohammadAG | Xenon lights are annoying | 21:33 |
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| MohammadAG | should be illegal imo | 21:33 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | yes they should | 21:33 |
| KaffeeJunky123 | you almost get blindfolded by those... | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | you never seen the 300W halogen incandescent of one of my former cars | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | those were blinding the xenon lights themselves | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually a *good* xenon is better than incandescent | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's just they buld them in a really annoying way, with tiny aperture and poor focus | 21:36 |
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| ThreeM | 2000 Lumen Bike Lights are annoying too.... for the car driver ;) | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh yeah | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | my next car will get LAZORS | 21:38 |
| jacekowski | what about LAZERZ | 21:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | or just a microwave pulse canon | 21:39 |
| jacekowski | hmm, that would be cool | 21:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | swith off those xenon and other electronics of the annoying other cars remotely ;-P | 21:39 |
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| jacekowski | hmm, how viable would it be to get big microwave owen | 21:40 |
| jacekowski | dismantle it | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | no problem | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's a vacuum electron valve basically - extremely pulse resistant | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | operate it from a 20kV capacitor rather than a 800V transformator | 21:41 |
| jacekowski | 800V transformer is ok | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | should survive several dozen or even q00s of shots | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | 800V transformer is what your microwave ofen comes with | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | oven* | 21:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 100uF 20.000V, gas spark switch | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | or simply a cascade | 21:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | disclaimer: this is all mere handwaving ;-D | 21:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but actually military is using similar technology to freeze mines along the road, in Afghanistan and Iraq | 21:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a few magnitudes more powerful devices are powered by fission bombs | 21:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/coaxfcg.gif | 22:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: you don't want to boil the electronics, so you don't need seconds and minutes of 700W. You need a sub-ms surge of several tens of kW to some MW | 22:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | navy radar like the one of aegis (weapon system) work in the 600MW range and this frequently causes trouble for camera teams shooting footage on those ships | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops, 6 MW, not 600 | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/SPY-1 | 22:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | FCD? | 23:43 |
| timeless | TPAC | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, hardly any hit for TPAC in silicon valley | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | neither for weapon systems with this acronym | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~tpac | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~wtf tpac | 23:46 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what tpac means... | 23:46 |
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