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Estel_hello #maemo00:46
Estel_Could anyone tell me, on what framerate N900 camera app is recording videos .mp4? (Basically, I mean CSSU one by nicolai, but AFAIK it have not changed yet, at least until freemangordon's patches for 720p recordings got incorporated)00:48
Estel_the thing is that I've recorded 630 MB video file of very important video, and it got corrupted (header) while saving. RAW video and audio data is there, but mp4 header is totally screwed. After week of sitting in quicktime mov specification and datasheets, I've found a working way to recorver it - basically, suck raw video and audio stream, + encqpsulate them in totally new .mp4 with manual headers creation.00:50
Estel_it is working almost perfectly - almost, because I can't set framerate that will not result in video/audio desynced at some point in video00:50
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Estel_audio is playing correctly, just video is either little to slow or too fast00:51
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Estel_I've tried to check with measuring tools/players, and refference (saved correctly) video from N900, but either I got no info about framerate, or - like players - average framerate is show, and it changes during replay time00:52
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DocScrutinizernew improved version of
Estel_I got desperated and counted all frames (not by hand, of course...), and I'm now trying to divide it by total seconds replay time, but it's showing me replay time in whole seconds, and even few hundres of milisend innacurracy desync video00:54
Estel_so, thanks in advance ;)00:54
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DocScrutinizerneeds a mp4 specialist01:01
DocScrutinizerI only know one: raster01:01
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DocScrutinizerbut I doubt he'll be available for this unless you manage to catch him on a public channel01:02
DocScrutinizer~seen raster01:02
infobotraster <raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 6d 14h 47m 18s ago, saying: 'exciting as all hell'.01:02
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Estel_thanks Doc01:06
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Estel_will try to catch him01:06
Venemo_N900how can I make my N900 display the "full" version of the windows live sites?01:06
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Estel_DocScrutinizer,  do You know raster TMO account name? I would also try there01:08
Estel_via pm01:08
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DocScrutinizerhaha, rater and tmo01:08
Estel_Venemo_N900,  could You elaborate morea.01:08
Estel_or meego forum, whatever ;)01:08
Estel_the kind of things where You send message, and message arrive when the person is available - instead of pinging 30 times a day01:09
Estel_oh, thanks01:10
Estel_despite irc cult following, I think email-like method of communications are also very effective ;)01:10
DocScrutinizerI think he'll kill you01:10
Venemo_N900Estel_, I'm talking about Microb and the fact that I only see the mobile version of the sites in it01:11
infobotremember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <>01:11
Estel_Recording of Tori Amos encore is worth that ;)01:11
Estel_Venemo_N900,  You need to change user agent01:11
Venemo_N900Estel_, to what? and how?01:11
Estel_its strange, cause most of the times microB is recognized as desktop browser... Hm, give me a sec. I never needed to do that on microB ;)01:12
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  You're suggesting I'm not asking questions in agree with "smartway" terms, huh?01:12
DocScrutinizeryup. Thought smewhere in there was sth like "don't send uninvited PM unless you are *sure* the addressee is responsible for your problem" - OWTTE01:13
Estel_oh no problem, I can always blame DocScrutinizer on irc for forwarding me there ;)01:14
DocScrutinizerthat's why I suggested you try to catch him in a public IRC channel01:14
Estel_will do, will do... Venemo_N900, open microB and in adress field type:01:15
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Estel_in "filter" field type 'agent'01:15
Estel_You will be given strings related to user agent01:16
Venemo_N900thx Estel_ :)01:16
Venemo_N900Estel_, what should I enter01:17
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Estel_last one contain 'general.useragent.vendor;Firefox/3.5 Maemo Browser RX-51 N900'01:17
Estel_You should change value from "Firefox(...)" to one of Your choidce01:18
Estel_google for appropriate one01:18
Estel_for example01:18
Venemo_N900Estel_, what is the useragent of desktop ff?01:19
Estel_checking now01:19
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Estel_erm, it seems that microB user agent is quite strange - it contain all information in "vendor" section01:20
Estel_I'll look into it, give me a while. I think we'll need to create some entries, not only replace existing01:21
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Venemo_N900thanks Estel_ :)01:26
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Estel_Venemo_N900,  check:
Estel_it contain both simple method to disguise Your microB user agent as firefox, and (little more complicated one, to have selection of user agents in status menu01:36
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Venemo_N900ok, thx :)01:37
Venemo_N900goodbye Estel_  :)01:37
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giorgilinehello people01:41
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giorgilinehow do i create an image from an url into a qpixmap?01:48
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UberNeoGuys .. I have teh problem with my mmcblk0p2 on N900 .. as mentioned in the post ..    please help as i have followed that post but nothing works02:57
UberNeoits getting restarted .. again n again ...02:57
UberNeodmesg shows lots of errors for mmcblk002:57
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SpeedEvilThere are no good solutions that will work reliably03:07
SpeedEvilOther than to replace the flash.03:07
SpeedEvilOr the mainboard.03:07
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UberNeoany way to repartion the flash03:22
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WhatsInANameCould anyone help me with where I can go to learn how to make my own applications for my n900?03:31
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WhatsInANameI have zero experience in programming, and I was wondering where I could turn to to start.03:31
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SpeedEvilI'm unsure where to recommend - perhaps python? Any other opinions?03:32
WhatsInANameI'll check it out.03:34
UberNeoSpeedEvil: any opiniion for my broken mmcblk0p203:34
WhatsInANameThanks. :)03:34
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SpeedEvilUberNeo: Unfortunately, no - you may try badblocks over it - in an attempt to get it to remap some of the bad sectors.03:35
UberNeohave already ran .. badblocks -w /dev/mmcblk0p2    many times03:35
SpeedEvilUberNeo: In principle, you can get it to use the SD, not the MMC - but...03:35
UberNeocan i repartition the flash memory .. just taken only the good part03:36
UberNeoand ignoring the bad sector03:36
SpeedEvilIn principle, yes.03:37
SpeedEvilBut there may not be defined bad blocks.03:37
UberNeois it a hardware prob in the flsh03:37
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UberNeocan Maemo be run out from the micro SD card03:38
SpeedEvilIn principle, yes, but nobodies done it as far as I'm aware.03:39
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SpeedEvilYou'd need to work out what mounts /opt and /home and ... and fix it to mount from the SD03:39
UberNeothen .. what should I do now .. means .. can i use my N900 again03:40
SpeedEvilNo good suggestions unfortunately.03:40
SpeedEvilMeego will run from the SD03:40
UberNeobut thats damm slow03:40
UberNeoI have already tried03:40
ShadowJKI accidentally once made my N900 run from only nand03:41
SpeedEvilPR1.0 will do that I think03:41
ShadowJKlike, it created /home on nand and all03:42
ShadowJKwas probably before 1.2, yeah :/03:42
UberNeodoes it means that most of the part in 32 GB flash is gone ..03:43
UberNeoor just /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 -- 2GB03:43
SpeedEvilIt depends on the exact design of the flash.03:43
SpeedEvilSome failures can be over small bits, others are more general.03:44
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UberNeocan I just mount /home from sd card03:44
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DocScrutinizera good SMT experienced repair job may replace the eMMC chip04:09
infobotDocScrutinizer meant: a good SMT experienced repair shop may replace the eMMC chip04:10
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DocScrutinizereMMC is especially "convenient" to replace as it has a comparatively really low number of relevant balls/pins04:12
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DocScrutinizeryou might even be able to build a small custom flexible PCB and solder that to new eMMC and mobo joint by joint04:14
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DocScrutinizerit's like just 11 "wires" needed to contact eMMC04:16
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DocScrutinizerthe remaining 185.3 are just NC mech support04:17
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ultra420anybody online now?04:43
ultra420all robots?04:43
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ultra420my N900 get errors,dmesg shows lots of : "end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 59312105"..and it will crash, boot loops without boot success ,i have flashed at least 30 times i thought...any help plz?04:52
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Macertrying to bid on a n90008:10
Macerim sure it will never work :)08:10
Macerhut would be awesome if i won08:10
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Kowalczykhi.. Anyone using the twitter plugin for n900? the one that integrates with conversations and stuff? Im having trouble with it. it logs on,logs off,logs on, logs off. and it says network error.. any idea?09:32
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Psianyone know why PGZ-latitude-widget is reporting my location to google latitude as 5000km out when im inside09:57
Psiits got something to do with gps reception09:57
Psialso, the location is curiously only 5000km wrong in one direction!09:57
Psimore or less09:57
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psycho_oreosusing assisted GPS or just internal GPS?09:58
Psii dunno which it uses09:58
Psiis there a global option for it?09:58
psycho_oreosits under settings09:59
Psigps device is "internal gps"10:00
psycho_oreosnormally if its assisted GPS your device will connect to either WLAN or GPRS10:00
Psinetwork positioning is enabled and set to
Psii dont see any option for "assisted gps"10:01
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psycho_oreosno there isn't a setting for assisted GPS but network position is known as assisted GPS in other words10:01
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Psiok, ill turn that off and see if it fixes the issue10:02
Siceloapparently is in bad shape of late. try
Psitrue, ill try that10:02
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psycho_oreosI wouldn't turn it off (network positioning), it greatly benefits your internal GPS with the accuracy with locating where you are10:03
Psii had figured (wrongly) that network positioning was for cellsite location lookups10:03
Psiyeah, ive changed it to
edheldilpsycho_oreos:  it should not affect accuracy, just fix acquire time (cold boot), no?10:04
psycho_oreosedheldil, not that I have examined in great detail under all sorts of weather conditions but I'm sure assisted GPS mode is not only faster but generally quite accurate even in cloudy days for instance or indoors/undercover10:05
Psiwow, it does seem to lock faster now10:10
Psijust waiting for pgz-latitude-widget to do its update and ill see if it fixed the 5000km out issue10:10
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Psiyay, it seems to have fixed the issue10:19
Psithanks guys10:21
Psi(or girls)10:21
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vadimqhi, question: Is it possible to force the N900 attempt to reconnect to the phone network? Here's the thing: on my commute there's a 5 minute stretch when the train is over the ground. Depending on my luck, it may notice that there is a connection quickly, or right before going back underground12:00
vadimqso I'd like to have some way of forcing the phone to look for a tower again, so that I can have enough time to fetch the mail for instance12:01
gomiamvadimq: depending on your status... you might just want to turn it off and on again ;)12:01
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SpeedEvilvadimq: there are a couple of ways - 2g/3g switcher - if you switch modes, it works - or offline/online mode12:02
vadimqSpeedEvil: aha, thanks, will give it a try12:03
SpeedEvilOr of course, switch on/off12:03
vadimqyeah, but that's a pain12:03
vadimqalso, I open pages for reading without a connection12:04
SpeedEvil N900 always crash:with lots of error in dmesg: mmcblk0: error -84 transferring data, sector 59312104, nr 8, card status 0x900.  [  238.523193] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 5931210412:07
SpeedEvilUnfortunately, that's a hardware fault.12:09
ultra420thanks..i was suffer these days  i realy love N900..12:10
ultra420i would like to buy another one..12:10
SpeedEvilIn principle, it's possible to run maemo from the SD, but nobody has reported on how to do this.12:11
psycho_oreosultra420, that isn't your microSD isn't it?12:14
psycho_oreosthose dmesg errors12:14
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ultra420yeah...dear psycho_oreos,there is no micro SD in it now12:16
ultra420i have drop sim ,sd Card away12:16
ultra420and then i flash the N900 ,without install packages,it is just naked...but it still crashed...i feel painful..i do wanna another N900 now12:16
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psycho_oreosultra420, that's the eMMC playing up then heh, overusage may lead to that. I've seen something similar with my class 10 microsdhc but a kernel patch fixed the issue12:17
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luojie-dune_psycho_oreos: hello again, have you heard people  installing Java programs.?12:17
psycho_oreosluojie-dune_, not installing java programs but I suppose you can run java stuff after installing icedtea 6 or something like that12:18
ultra420dear  psycho_oreos,do you mean that i could fix my N900's eMMC with a kernel patch ?12:18
psycho_oreosultra420, no, if stock kernel can't fix it then its a hardware fault as SpeedEvil pointed out12:19
ultra420:'( okay...thanks.....12:19
luojie-dune_ultra420:  I don't think anyone can confirm the particular problem of your device.12:19
psycho_oreosI have 3 N900, none of them exhibit this problem, not with eMMC anyway12:20
ultra420-_-! why?  i'm suffering for a long time now..i do love this N90012:20
psycho_oreosit was probably manufactured with defects12:20
luojie-dune_psycho_oreos: ... salt on flesh...12:20
ultra420could i paste a url here? about my N900's record..12:20
ultra420is it allowed here?12:21
psycho_oreosas long as it goes into pastebin if its more than 3 lines12:21
luojie-dune_anybody help me get rid of  #inkscape.12:21
psycho_oreoswell yeah url I suppose would be ok12:21
ultra420i record  it in my dokuwiki12:21
SpeedEvilStress on the board can also cause the issue12:22
psycho_oreosor that I suppose it may be interesting to look at, though from my end there's no solution that I know can alleviate it12:22
SpeedEvilthe MMC is a large, fragile chip12:22
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psycho_oreosI think some people have tried to run fsck && badblocks against it, namely against the /home/user/MyDocs portion12:22
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ultra420dear psycho_oreos; here is my dokuwiki page for N900's record,my English is very pool, thanks...
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psycho_oreosultra420, some typos, some interesting stuff and maybe you should probably give badblocks another run to see if it helps. Though I wouldn't put high hopes on it12:35
ultra420dear psycho_oreos,thanks.. i will try for a last time.12:36
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BonaCI am trying to make my N900's screen to act as a second display for my computer18:12
BonaCDo you know any way to send only one display to the N900?18:12
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BonaCI mean I'm trying VNC atm, but it lags quite heavily.18:13
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giorgilinewhat is vnc atm?18:19
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BonaCVNC Viewer18:23
BonaCI mean18:23
BonaCI am trying to use VNC at the moment18:23
BonaCSo... Any ideas? I tried to add the :1 to the end of the ip address in order to connect only to the second display18:27
BonaCBut it's not working.18:27
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BonaCIt seems that TightVNC for some reason puts all of the desktops to :018:29
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giorgilineso yo want to use the n900 display as it would be a ssecond monitor for your pc?18:36
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BonaCGiorgi: Yes.18:46
BonaCSorry, I've been busy googling how to make windows VNC treat displays as separate ports like in linux.18:46
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jogaBonaC I've never tried anything complex with windows vnc myself. do you currently have one monitor in windows and you want to have a separate desktop (as in multihead) shown on the n900? I'm not sure if windows can do that, a vnc server on linux can spawn just about any number of them with different desktops too, but the windows desktop is different...18:53
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BonaCYeah, I know it's difficult18:54
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BonaCI mean now RealVNC at my computer sends my primary display and the virtual display meant for the N900 all in one image18:55
BonaCSo if I do something graphically intensive on the primary, n900 stops updating the picture18:55
jogaI'm kinda thinking stretching the desktop to a fake monitor, setting a proper resolution for it, making vncserver serve just a part of the "dual" screen or the n900 client to only show the relevant part...but it might be difficult to get it proper18:56
BonaCIt seems it's possible18:56
BonaCI have to do a manual workaround in registry editor18:57
jogapossible, maybe, but is it worth it? ;P18:58
jogaok I guess it might be18:58
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jogahmm...might it be easier with an xserver for windows...18:58
joganot the same, really, but depends18:59
BonaCIt must be worth it, it would be cost free this way18:59
BonaCIf I don't manage to make this work, well18:59
jogayou need food and shelter to make it happen ;p18:59
BonaCI have to buy a 200 euro USB monitor for this18:59
joga"usb monitor"? why19:00
BonaCIt would be easier19:00
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jogaa normal monitor is not enough?19:00
BonaCThey are a bit too big and bulky that I have seen19:00
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BonaCAnd it ramps up my GTX 460's clocks19:01
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jogaa usb display sounds kinda inefficient19:01
jogaI'm not sure how they fare19:01
BonaCI don't need it to show any moving picture19:01
javispedroBonaC: joga: funnily I was discussing this moments ago.19:01
javispedroI had to RMA card days ago and I'm running a USB monitor via DisplayLink19:02
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javispedrohave to say I am NOT able to distinguish it from native19:02
javispedroit's really lagless at 1680x1050x1619:02
jogahmm, any cpu load or such?19:02
javispedrocannot really measure, as any noticeable increased CPU load is because I am VGAless and thus using a 3d software rasterizer19:03
javispedroeither way, 4x3Ghz there's CPU to spare.19:03
BonaCI wonder how the display's name is set19:04
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BonaCI mean \\.\display2. didn't work19:04
javispedroah, windows...19:04
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BonaCI can't do much gaming on Linux so19:05
jogaheh, disk partitions are named nicely too19:05
joga(can't remember exactly)19:05
BonaCYou mean C: etc.19:05
jogaI mean the reference to a block device or the partitions on it19:06
BonaCDoesn't ring a bell here.19:06
javispedronote that a 1680x1050 fullscreen video stream does lag on DisplayLink, but at a quarter size there's no lag anymore.19:06
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jogaactually it doesn't seem that bad but I think the "?" has some stuff in real world too "\\?\Device\Harddisk0\Partition0"19:07
jogaor, no, it might actually be just a "?"19:07
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BonaCI'm quite a noob with Linux19:09
BonaCI set up my home server just about week ago19:09
jogajavispedro, it still sounds somewhat alien to me, but what do I know, I just have old trash as hardware ;)19:09
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javispedromath says it's possible.19:09
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BonaCThis isn't working19:13
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BonaCNow I'm not getting a screen of any kind19:13
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jogajavispedro, possible sure. does it have any influence on other usb devices? (hard disks?) I mean bandwidthwise? (I'm not that sure how it works actually)19:15
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javispedroI'd guess so. But I have 2 controllers on this motherboard, and one is entirely dedicated to this.19:16
BonaCI quess I'm not going to be able to try this19:16
jogathough I guess in a way it could be efficient for screens that are not rapidly updated, such as monitoring stuff, I dunno, guess depends a lot on the hardware implementation19:17
jogaI've been mostly thinking about usb displays for embedded devices that don't have other ports so I'm a bit biased :)19:17
javispedro*2 USB controllers, I mean.19:17
javispedroI did try DisplayLink on the N90019:18
javispedroback then there was no udlfb, so I had to use Xvnc19:18
jogahow'd it work?19:18
javispedrospeedwise it was usable, albeit not really lagless.19:19
javispedrowould need to check again with udlfb.19:19
javispedrojsut remembered something...19:19
jogavnc lags for me on the n900 even over lan and 8-bit colour19:19
ShadowJKtoo cpu intensive19:20
BonaCI hate this bug in the GTX 460 cards19:21
BonaCThey activate the 3D clocks if you attach second monitor.19:21
javispedroBonaC: it is not a bug19:21
BonaCI know19:21
javispedroalso, every other single card in the universe does the same thing19:21
javispedroone of the reasons I will never buy a card with TDP > 60W.19:22
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kakashi_hi can someone help me solve this problem19:27
kakashi_whenever I keep my n900, by mistake I end up calling someone19:27
kakashi_any idea how to prevent it19:28
kakashi_the n900 lock is not so effective sometimes19:28
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SpeedEvilI use the lock on the side19:36
SpeedEvilThe slide-lock19:36
SpeedEvilNto the screen lock19:36
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kakashi_SpeedEvil, the slide lock in the sense the one on the body?19:46
kakashi_I mean the one to the side of the body19:46
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BonaCI've never managed to do a pocket-call with mine20:05
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BonaCAny news about the community firmware?20:06
BonaCI mean is it safe to download now?20:07
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RST38hMeanwhile: HP's chief strategy officer to retire next month, won't have a successor (he has been the guy behind retaining WebOS)20:13
RST38hcheers, all20:13
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javispedroRST38h: excellent20:14
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BonaCI would love the idea of having N900 as a "information monitor"20:17
BonaCIt's a bit too complicated for me. D:20:17
BonaCEven though I am studying to become an ICT technician20:18
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BonaCIf that's even english20:19
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Maceri didn't know the AU$ to US$ rate was so good20:19
Maceri thought i was bidding in US and i was bidding in AU lol20:19
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Maceroh wait20:21
Maceri guess not20:21
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Macerit is 1:1.03 in favor of the AUD :)20:21
BluesLeehi, has someone experiences with broken usb port?20:21
MacerBluesLee: lol. yes. i failed in having it repaired20:21
Maceri am on ebay trying to get a new n900 with plans to never use the usb port again and see about finding a way to use a charging pad or some other method to charge20:22
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BluesLeeMacer: i gave mine away, they told me that it is a mechanical issue, so no guarentee ... maybe i would get an e7 as a replacement20:23
BluesLeeMacer: i am really asking myself if i should insist to get my money back20:23
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Macerif i could i would have20:24
Maceri would have demanded my money back20:24
Macerit is a factory issue20:24
BluesLeeMacer: as i paid 600€ right in the beginning ...20:24
Macerthey were poorly made20:24
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BonaCMy N900 also loses connection every now and then20:24
Maceri am trying to find some other means to charge it20:25
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BluesLeeDocScrutinizer: ping20:25
Maceri was hoping there was a battery cover for an n900 by now but i guess nobody cares :(20:25
BonaCCar battery, two wires, N900 battery and some balls20:25
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BonaCIt's a shame that N900 has no real successor20:26
BonaCI mean, my N900 is quite much seen now, there's nothing new to it20:26
BonaCExcluding the second monitor idea20:26
Maceri wonder if something like that would work20:28
NIN101there some threads on TMO about external chargers.20:28
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MacerNIN101: nothing helpful i'm sure :)20:31
Maceri will look tho. i am still working on buying a new n900 :(20:31
Macerstupid usb port.20:31
Macerthe nokia engineer who overlooked that mishap should be taken somewhere and shot20:32
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BonaCI quess I will buy Android if my N900 fucks up20:34
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BonaCKind of a suicide message to tell that I see more potential in Android than Maemo/Meego at a maemo irc channel20:35
Macerwell.. it is kind of an obvious statement20:36
teilzeitstudentyou should probably check your car before starting it from now on :P20:36
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Macerconsidering maemo/meego hold like .00000000000001% of the market share20:36
BonaCI don't have driver's license for a car20:36
BonaCYeah, I guess that Meego would blow all of the current leaders to smitherines if Eflop wasn't in charge @ nokia.20:37
SpeedEvilAssuming that someone with a clue would appear if Elop departed is perhaps a bit wishful thinkign.20:37
ShadowJKdunno, it seemed like meego was working on making it as difficult to get things done on a phone as in android20:38
SpeedEvilN?okia basically lost the plot well over a year ago.20:38
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* ShadowJK isn't sure yet whether N9 can read his email or not20:39
BonaCBut the first windows phone20:39
BonaCIt's N9 with a different OS20:39
ShadowJKthe openvpn thread is a bit inconclusive on whether one has to crack Aegis first or not before getting vpn20:39
javispedroShadowJK: doesn't vpn require a kernel module?20:40
javispedrothen: yes20:40
ShadowJKand permission to edit routing table, and send commands to the kernel module in order to set it up20:40
javispedrohow can it be inconclusive then?20:41
javispedrothey were thinking about implementing all of that in userspace? =)20:41
ShadowJKAs in the thread was full of Aegis-yayers saying it "should" work, and people saying it doesn't work20:41
ShadowJKI got the impression the people who said it works had some non-evil unreleased  version20:42
ShadowJK(of harmattan)20:42
javispedrowell, let me think for a moment20:42
javispedroiirc, the required module is tun?20:43
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ShadowJKSupposed to be included? But then you also need to be able to manipulate it20:43
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ShadowJKand openvpn needs permissions to do that20:43
javispedroCONFIG_TUN=y indeed.20:43
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javispedrocrw-rw-rw-    1 root     root for the device node, which is not bad.20:44
villagernormally, root permissions would suffice... vpn just needs to set up new routing tables, most of it happens in userspace, the kernel module needed is a default kernel component20:44
javispedrothere's no real root in aegis. you have to enumarate all the posix capabilities separately20:45
BonaCI guess I'm closer to the second display - UltraVNC has the display selection built-in20:45
villageryes, hence "normally"... so more study needed, probably20:46
javispedroboth net_Raw and net_admin are available20:46
villagerI think openvpn also needs ppp support, but that's probably also in the default kernel20:46
ShadowJKdoesn't need ppp20:47
villagerokay, maybe that was for something else then20:47
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javispedroI think I'm going to remove my veredict of "busted" and set it to "plausible"20:47
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villagermaybe the vpn I needed ppp for was some other vpn type20:49
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javispedroyou can do fully userspace ppp though20:50
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villageranyway, the kernel only needs to expose the TUN interface and permit userspace to manipulate it and the netfilter routing tables, then userspace can do the rest20:51
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villager(where netfilter means the stuff manipulated by the "iptables" command)20:52
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BonaCI quess I have to settle with the both screens showing up @ VNC21:06
BonaCUltraVNC was quite a bit faster21:06
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BonaCIt fucking works21:10
BonaCOnly that it makes my GPU idle @ 50 degrees celsius21:10
BonaCWithout the virtual screen it's about 27-3821:10
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woldrichdon't worry. mine hovers around 80... idle21:25
BonaCRadeon 4800?21:29
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madkickershi. i have installed a lot of apps on my n900 and now root is out of free space.what can i do now. i have removed some of them but it did't work. disk usage shows that /usr/lib is very large21:35
mgedminmadkickers, quick way to free up some space on root is to disable apt repositories21:36
mgedminbecause /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin tend to grow large when you have many repos21:37
mgedminor you could move stuff from /usr/lib by hand to /opt, then create symlinks21:37
madkickerslet me see21:37
mgedminjust don't move any of the built-in libraries: that could end badly21:37
mgedminmake sure things you're moving are part of those "lots of apps" you mentioned21:38
ShadowJKUnbelievable that apps still use / space :-(21:38
madkickersmicrob-engine,locals and gcc have gotten lots of space. can i move them?21:40
madkickersonly gcc?21:41
ShadowJKor are you talking about libgcc?21:41
madkickersidk, there is a directory in /usr/lib/ which its name is gcc21:41
ShadowJKDo you use gcc?21:42
madkickerssometimes yes21:42
ShadowJKWell it's something that isn't installed by default, so I'd try move the directory to /opt somewhere, and create a symlink to it from /usr/lib/gcc -> /opt/whatever21:42
ShadowJKlocale and microb-engine are installed by default, so I'd myself not try move them. They're 22.8M and 23.7M on my device21:43
madkickersgood idea, but y can't i do this about microb and locale?21:43
ShadowJKIf they are needed before mmc is mounted, your device wouldn't boot, and you'll end up in a reboot loop21:45
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ShadowJKI'd make backups and be prepared to reinstall before touching stuff that's installed by default21:45
ShadowJKAlso, some things are considered "important", and if they crash for whatever reason, they'll be restarted 5 times (or something like that), and if they still fail, device will reboot...21:46
madkickerstnx dude.21:47
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madkickersis perl installed by default or i can move it?21:56
ShadowJKyeah it is21:57
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