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| Sicelo | so, box, are u getting Nokia Messaging as a provider on yours? i don't | 00:01 |
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| kerio | so... is there a package to install nokia's new nokia tune as a ringtone? | 00:04 |
| kerio | >:D | 00:05 |
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| box | Sicelo yeh | 00:06 |
| box | ive tested it, proper push :D | 00:07 |
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| kerio | ~nokiatune | 00:08 |
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| kerio | infobot: nokiatune is http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3 | 00:12 |
| infobot | okay, kerio | 00:12 |
| kerio | infobot: nokiatune is also WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:12 |
| infobot | okay, kerio | 00:12 |
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| kerio | ~nokiatune | 00:12 |
| infobot | hmm... nokiatune is http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3. WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:12 |
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| kerio | perfect | 00:12 |
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| RST38h | <yawn> | 00:15 |
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| derf | DocScrutinizer: hildon-desktop definitely doesn't eat 6% of CPU all the time. | 00:19 |
| derf | I doubt think it's a wifi issue, as it happens even when not connected to any network, regardless of where I am. | 00:20 |
| derf | I haven't tried leaving it in airplane mode. | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | derf: so what the heck *is* eating CPU then? | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | derf: I mean, the CPU won't stay in C1 just for fun, no? | 00:22 |
| derf | Got me. | 00:22 |
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| RST38h | moo, derf | 00:32 |
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| derf | Hi RST38h. | 00:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | derf: I found with busybox tools you're quite lost when it comes to really diagnosing the system - maybe installing and using true top (or htop) could actually help to get a better idea of what's going on | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | e.g with htop it's rather simple to get a display of total CPU time each process used up since it's been started | 00:45 |
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| jiero | I just watched a video, seems N900 run faster than Samsung GalaxyII - i9100 . Is that true? | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | derf: top5 sorted by TIME+ http://paste.debian.net/135557/ | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | for a CSSU system with 6 days uptime | 00:53 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: how do i tell infobot not to put full stops after urls when displaying a factoid? | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | didn't know it does | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~maemopkg | 00:55 |
| infobot | well, maemopkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 00:55 |
| kerio | ~nokiatune | 00:55 |
| infobot | nokiatune is, like, http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3. WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:55 |
| kerio | i used "nokiatune is also foo" | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | is also is a bit awkward | 00:55 |
| kerio | infobot: nokiatune is http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3 WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:56 |
| MohammadAG | FFS | 00:56 |
| infobot | ...but nokiatune is already something else... | 00:56 |
| kerio | infobot: no | 00:56 |
| MohammadAG | Dubstep!? | 00:56 |
| MohammadAG | fucking dubstep | 00:56 |
| kerio | infobot: nokiatune is http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3 WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:56 |
| infobot | ...but nokiatune is already something else... | 00:56 |
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| kerio | fuck you infobot | 00:56 |
| kerio | MohammadAG: just when you thought nokia couldn't make a worse decision than going for w7p | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot: no, nokiatune is http://brandbook.nokia.com/servlet/file/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3?uploadfile=realm_1/user_407/Nokia_Tune_Dubstep_Edition.mp3 WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB | 00:56 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer | 00:56 |
| kerio | i bet that was the reason | 00:56 |
| kerio | to distract people from the actual stupidity | 00:57 |
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| MohammadAG | see, more stupidity doesn't distract you away from stupidity | 00:58 |
| kerio | MohammadAG: yeah, that's another stupid idea :> | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | also, unless they pack some 300W bass in phones, this is gonna sound shittier than shit | 00:58 |
| kerio | MohammadAG: but packing 300W subwoofers in a phone is yet another stupid idea! | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | NAH that's brilliant :-D | 00:59 |
| * DocScrutinizer drools over a phone with a 300W subwoofer | 01:00 | |
| DocScrutinizer | actually I'd forget about the phone - just use the subwoofer in a matchbox | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | might get hard to find a 450W USB charger wallwart | 01:01 |
| MohammadAG | a subwoofer in a phone's actually a good idea | 01:02 |
| MohammadAG | you can dump the vibra motor :p | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup, but that's also patented by *me* since 2008 | 01:02 |
| kerio | silent mode? pff, more like DIRTY BEATZ MODE | 01:03 |
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| MohammadAG | at least this'll be on WP7 phones | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | let's just hope Symbian Belle doesn't have it | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | I should add the ringtone in the CSSU, along with an overclock speakers into subwoofer mode | 01:05 |
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| depressed | does anyone have bbc iplayer working on their n900? | 01:32 |
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| jiero | What ringtone do you use? Music download from store? - I have game theme music... | 01:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ringtone? how's about that incredible marvelous arkanoid theme? http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/unsorted/arkanoid-wav/16bit-44ks/ | 02:04 |
| depressed | lame | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | it scares away dogs :-P | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | and probably can kill mosquitoes | 02:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, tbh I got sth only slightly less irritating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ScQivK5DY | 02:10 |
| yepagreed | What's the safest/best way to flash devices for customers? | 02:10 |
| yepagreed | Apple products seem to do it pretty seamlessly/safey | 02:10 |
| yepagreed | What have you guys learned about this from doing it with n900s? | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | never heard of injuries or fatalities from N900 flashing either | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course the ISA platform is a bit more complex to handle all the possible variants you may face than on a Mac | 02:14 |
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| box | how do you write é on n900? | 02:16 |
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| depressed | box write what? | 02:21 |
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| box | those things above letters | 02:21 |
| depressed | box: accents? | 02:21 |
| box | depressed lol yeh:P | 02:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Fn+ctl to invoke virtual onscreen kbd | 02:25 |
| depressed | box: press the blue arrow (north east facing), then Sym, choose the type of accent, then select the letter | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | press ' | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | press e on normal kbd | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooops, sym of course, not ctl ;-P | 02:26 |
| box | thanks depressed & docscrutinizer | 02:26 |
| box | how do you guys know this? | 02:26 |
| depressed | box: got the manual infront of me lol | 02:26 |
| box | lol! | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, I forgot | 02:27 |
| depressed | Anyone here got iphone 4s and a n900? | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe from there: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Shortcuts_and_Gestures | 02:28 |
| yepagreed | DocScrutinizer: well, I'm thinking more about fool proof processes | 02:29 |
| yepagreed | Some devices require special drivers to be flashed, for some reason | 02:29 |
| yepagreed | While others don't seem to | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 02:29 |
| yepagreed | "no" to what? | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | no to Some devices require special drivers to be flashed, for some reason While others don't seem to | 02:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least "no" to my (missing) ability to understand or get the point of this assumption | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll probably need a description of an example case to understand what you're telling me | 02:33 |
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| dzho | 1 | 02:40 |
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| dzho | bah, irssi fail | 02:41 |
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| Estel_ | hello there | 02:44 |
| Estel_ | Could anyone tell me, how to enable flight_mode from xterm command (on-device or when ssh'ed)? I know I can achieve almost same thing by running several dbus calls for disabling cellular,wifi,bluetooth etc, but I need flight mode directly... | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 02:46 |
| Estel_ | I checked http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_Control , but nothing there about flight/normal mode | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | strange | 02:47 |
| Estel_ | yea. systemui set something from /var/lib/mce/mode, but thats black magic for me. Other things are done simillar way in systemui, and have dbus equivalents available from xterm, so I suppose it's existing, but just undocumented in wiki | 02:48 |
| Estel_ | forum searching failed also | 02:48 |
| Estel_ | not only to find answer, but even to find questions, so maybe no one needed that before to the point of asking ;) | 02:49 |
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| HyperSnyper | Estel_ i'm pretty new to all this but is this what ur looking for > http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/DBUS#dbus-send-switch-to-offline-mode | 02:58 |
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| Estel_ | HyperSnyper, it seems that it is the thing I was looking for! Must have missed it. | 03:02 |
| Estel_ | Thanks a lot! | 03:02 |
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| Estel_ | The funniest thing is that I'm actually reading other Jebba wiki page, about his Debian etch (non-working now) repository for Maemo. It's a pity he never incorporated his wikis into mainline wiki, cause searching personal wikis is a whole lot of mess and luck/unluck based thing | 03:03 |
| HyperSnyper | i use google + "site:http://wiki.maemo.org/" | 03:04 |
| HyperSnyper | :P | 03:04 |
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| Estel_ | HyperSnyper, yea. You're right, I focused on mainline wiki and forum, just looked briefly at personal wikis. Jebba wrote, that this (his personal dbus) page got merged into mainline wiki - it seems that it's only one command that slipped away, from the process. | 03:13 |
| Estel_ | I'll fix that in a while, updating wiki | 03:14 |
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| Estel_ | meantime, I wonder if there is any way to "hide" some terminal program from interface? I mean that program is still running in background, but user doesn't see terminal window and can't close it without root and 'kill', on purpose or by accident | 03:15 |
| Estel_ | this may be lame question ;) | 03:15 |
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| Estel_ | basically, I'm thinking about x11vnc, would love to set it sleeping sometimes, without seeing it in hildon taskbar, with chance to 'x' it accidentally due to vnc lag | 03:16 |
| nox- | you could run your shell in screen... | 03:17 |
| nox- | if the terminal gets killed just reopen it and screen -r | 03:17 |
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| Estel_ | thanks, will try | 03:20 |
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| HyperSnyper | anyone know anything of the "GSM Mon - Monitor Status of cell phone connection" app that's listed in PwnPhone's manual > pwnphonemanual.pdf | 03:51 |
| SpeedEvil | it's a stock app | 03:52 |
| SpeedEvil | well - stock in the repos | 03:52 |
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| HyperSnyper | ahh is it really called "netmon" | 03:57 |
| SpeedEvil | no, it's not | 03:58 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 03:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes it is. | 03:59 |
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| depressed | lord help me reset this bloody phone | 04:31 |
| SpeedEvil | ~flashing | 04:32 |
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| infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 04:32 |
| * SpeedEvil is a jealous God. | 04:33 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | HyperSnyper: I know netmon has a tendency to segfault a lot | 05:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what else do you want to know about it? | 05:04 |
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| SpeedEvil | ever done that for me. | 05:07 |
| SpeedEvil | never | 05:07 |
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| depressed | Anyone here using the Google Voice plugin (http://wiki.maemo.org/The_One_Ring)? | 05:45 |
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| depressed | According to this, http://maemo.org/packages/view/telepathy-theonering/ - it says "Reduce battery drain by setting your status to Away" - but you physically can't change the status | 05:47 |
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| Evanescence | I can not open MeBook epub reader now, error: libQtWebkit.so.4: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory. I try to search and install this lib file. but can not find. so does anyone can tell me how to fix it ? | 06:54 |
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| FIReun | dont throw tomatoes if I'm asking a question about a really old platform.. but... I have an n770 running 2007he: what I'm trying to do is simply install fbreader to make some use of this old thing, but its stuck looking for libfribidi0 -- I've downloaded the 10.7-4 and 10.9-x versions and the app installer keeps telling me its an incompatible package.. any ideas how to install the right package? I cant find a 10.7-1 of fribidi (same version as fbreader) | 07:41 |
| FIReun | no wifi here, copying files over usb | 07:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | apt-get install --ignore-missing fbreader ? | 10:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | FIReun: ^^^ | 10:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | except for the probably correct assumption that an app needing 10.7-1 of xy.so should usually work just fine with 10.7-4 of xy.so | 10:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html | 10:15 |
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| Macer | hI | 10:19 |
| Macer | :( picking up my still broken n900 from fedex today | 10:19 |
| Macer | ugh | 10:19 |
| Macer | foo fighters aren't that good | 10:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also note the soname should be identical libfribidi0.so.10 for libfribidi0.so.10.7-1 and libfribidi0.so.10.7-4, and your app (fbreader) *should* only check for that soname | 10:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | FIReun: so my (still wild) guess was you maybe need to run ldconfig, to make the soname link point to the right realname of libfribidi0 | 10:31 |
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| edheldil | DocScrutinizer: that shared lib explanation is a nice one, thanks | 11:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | edheldil: yw | 11:36 |
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| Nimesh_Accenture | hi guys | 11:46 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | how do i debug native components in maemo? | 11:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, as usual | 11:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's a native component? | 11:46 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | libresource | 11:47 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | there's this resource-test.c | 11:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | and how would you _like_ to debug it? | 11:47 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | how do i debug that? i'm sorry if my question is a bit silly , but i'm new to all this | 11:48 |
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| Nimesh_Accenture | using GDB | 11:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine, so you're set, there's gdb on fremantle | 11:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | runs just fine I've been told - plus there's even a remote variant | 11:49 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | but as i understand, libresource is part of the platform rite? | 11:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | err, I dunno libresource | 11:50 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | for that matter any library part of the maemo platform | 11:50 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | so this not a lib that i'm creating | 11:50 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | its already a part of the platform | 11:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | most libs are oss and thus no problem to debug with gdb for that part | 11:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | | 11:51 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | ya but what shou;d be my environment? a virtual box running a maemo image? | 11:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | basically exactly like on your ISA PC | 11:52 |
| Nimesh_Accenture | so would a virtual; box image work fine? | 11:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wel, the CPU is quite a bit different, the system... NOT | 11:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I've seen WinXP and MacOS running on N900, in qemu though | 11:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | or was it winNT? | 11:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | and of course "running" (iirc MacOS needed 2h30 until first window opened) | 11:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | your environment? The device, or scratchbox | 12:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (of course scratchbox on PC won't provide any of the specific hardware interfaces, so e.g. testing a GPS driver was a bit problematic in scratchbox emu) | 12:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | testing a generic lib however should work | 12:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably unless it's liblocation or libisi | 12:03 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders idly if scratchbox libisi would somehow connect to phone via network and cdc_phonet | 12:04 | |
| DocScrutinizer | MEH, gn8 - l8r | 12:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nimesh_Accenture: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation | 12:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5 | 12:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5#Installation | 12:07 |
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| amiconn | DocScrutinizer: Hehe "running". Reminds me of trying Win95 in PC-Task on my Amiga back then | 12:21 |
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| RST38h | A pair of seemingly official adverts for Nokia's first Windows Phone handset have been discovered, which give the rumored Sea Ray the extremely dull new product name Nokia N800. | 16:07 |
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| RST38h | (ok, ladies and gentlemen, you can officially throw up now) | 16:07 |
| * Arkenoi still cannot understand what is the point of reusing model numbers | 16:08 | |
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| RST38h | to add insult to the injury for all the current Nokia product users? | 16:08 |
| Arkenoi | RST38h, do you have any idea what's wrong with my devel-sh? | 16:11 |
| Arkenoi | (offtopic here though) | 16:11 |
| RST38h | it has been further limited by their platsec team | 16:11 |
| Arkenoi | omfg | 16:11 |
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| RST38h | to keep evil people from harming you, if we are to believ the djs-whatever guy | 16:11 |
| Arkenoi | but how? i do not remember getting any updates.. though there could be. | 16:12 |
| RST38h | have not been any | 16:12 |
| Arkenoi | so why did it happen and is anyone else affected? :-) | 16:12 |
| RST38h | no idea, I am away from the device right now | 16:14 |
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| edheldil | Arkenoi: what has happened? | 16:17 |
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| dneary_ | Hi | 16:20 |
| dneary_ | Someone sent me an email re spam in the Maemo wiki last week | 16:20 |
| dneary_ | Reggie, I think? | 16:20 |
| dneary_ | There are many wiki admins now - which of them are active in the wiki, I don't know | 16:21 |
| Arkenoi | edheldil, my n950's devel-sh *suddenly* stopped running arbitrary unsigned binaries | 16:21 |
| dneary_ | The admins are: amigadave, andre, andrewblack, danielwilms, myself, feri, finni, generalantilles, jacktanner, jaffa, marcell, myrtti, qgil, vdvsx, xfade, zerojay | 16:22 |
| dneary_ | And I'll happily add others | 16:22 |
| dneary_ | Anyone here care? | 16:22 |
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| edheldil | ah | 16:27 |
| Jaffa | dneary_: Someone was moaning about spam, IIRC? | 16:29 |
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| andre__ | dneary_, I don't think anybody cares. Do you also consider http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Avinrude spam? | 16:44 |
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| libben | anyone knows how to restart gui't on n900 ? | 16:55 |
| libben | getting att bit sluggish in the menus and everything | 16:56 |
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| libben | dont want to do reboot the device, just the gui | 16:56 |
| NIN101 | afaik this is not possible | 16:56 |
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| libben | right now, i have closed all apps. and so on. But it's really slow now | 16:57 |
| libben | several seconds between "screens" when touching it | 16:57 |
| ruskie | check if something is eating the cpu cycles | 16:57 |
| ruskie | see top in the terminal | 16:57 |
| libben | well, nothing weird is going on there | 16:57 |
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| Sicelo | libben: i think killall hildon-desktop as normal user is what u want | 16:58 |
| Sicelo | also, killall hildon-home | 16:58 |
| Sicelo | not as root though | 16:58 |
| libben | from ssh login ? | 16:58 |
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| Sicelo | you can even do it directly on device | 16:59 |
| NIN101 | <Sicelo> libben: i think killall hildon-desktop as normal user is what u want | 17:00 |
| NIN101 | that's another way to reboot the device | 17:00 |
| NIN101 | :-) | 17:00 |
| libben | i dont want to reboot it | 17:00 |
| libben | =) | 17:00 |
| Sicelo | no NIN101 | 17:00 |
| NIN101 | because the watchdogs won't like it, and will reboot the device | 17:00 |
| Sicelo | it's as root that it reboots device | 17:00 |
| NIN101 | hmm | 17:00 |
| Sicelo | as user, it just re-spawns it | 17:01 |
| libben | hmm | 17:01 |
| Sicelo | at least mine does so | 17:01 |
| NIN101 | Sicelo: just tested, you are right :-) | 17:01 |
| libben | cant login at my user | 17:01 |
| libben | must forgot password | 17:01 |
| libben | =) | 17:01 |
| libben | change password for root at the phone? | 17:01 |
| libben | possible? | 17:01 |
| libben | cause on the phone i just type root | 17:02 |
| libben | and then i become root | 17:02 |
| libben | but i want to login with ssh and printscreen my htop for u | 17:02 |
| Sicelo | libben: don't killall hildon-desktop as root | 17:02 |
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| libben | http://piclair.com/85uis there is my htop | 17:04 |
| libben | dont understand why ists sluggish as hell | 17:05 |
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| libben | Sicelo: NIN101 http://piclair.com/data/85uis.jpg | 17:06 |
| libben | any reasons why hildon should act sluggish? | 17:07 |
| NIN101 | dunno. And u just don't want to reboot to keep your uptime alive :-)? | 17:08 |
| libben | =) | 17:08 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/nokia_ringtone/ | 17:08 |
| libben | im working hard on that one =) | 17:08 |
| libben | i use my phone everyday and charge it like 1 hour before i leave work and when i go to bed. Otherwise it will die on me.. | 17:09 |
| NIN101 | I otoh wonder if so much pulseaudio is normal | 17:09 |
| libben | trying to see how long i can get it running without messing it up =) | 17:09 |
| libben | pulseaudi is the mediaplayer i presume | 17:09 |
| NIN101 | no | 17:10 |
| libben | ooh | 17:10 |
| libben | what is it then? | 17:10 |
| NIN101 | it's the sound server | 17:10 |
| libben | for? | 17:11 |
| NIN101 | the N900 | 17:11 |
| libben | yeah, but what is sound server ? | 17:11 |
| libben | for the calls? | 17:11 |
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| NIN101 | with this thing it's possible to mute one application but not another one | 17:11 |
| libben | aah... hm | 17:11 |
| Sicelo | libben: also try killing hildon-status-menu | 17:14 |
| Sicelo | as user too | 17:14 |
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| libben | so kill hildon-desktop && hildon-status-menu | 17:16 |
| Sicelo | yeahyes | 17:17 |
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| libben | kill hildon-desktop | 17:20 |
| libben | just says not found | 17:20 |
| NIN101 | killall not kill | 17:20 |
| Sicelo | killall hildon-desktop | 17:20 |
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| libben | thanks, a little bit faster | 17:24 |
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| libben | should i try kill pulseaudio as well and hope for it to restart? | 17:24 |
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| libben | or, whats the worst thing with killing pulseaudio and i cant get it to start, that my games are not muted where they are supposed to be muted? | 17:27 |
| libben | or my phonecalls is at a default value every time someone calls? | 17:27 |
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| edheldil | if pulseaudio does not run, you won't hear anything, I think | 17:28 |
| * Arkenoi tries to figure out why my n900 is much faster after reflash and applying performance hacks and bfs -- either performance hacks work really good or just disabling activesync did the trick | 17:28 | |
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| NIN101 | pulseaudio should respawn after being killed. | 17:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | reflash makes it faster anyway | 17:34 |
| SpeedEvil | fragmentation is sometimes an issue | 17:34 |
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| libben | any use of meego on n900 yet or still just fooling around? | 17:37 |
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| andre__ | libben, http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 | 17:53 |
| edheldil | ~omap-oc | 17:53 |
| infobot | it has been said that omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 | 17:53 |
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| thopiekar | hi.. got problems building a theme package on Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/xgmspmn5 Have you got any ideas? | 18:03 |
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| dneary_ | andre_: I have only been going to the Maemo wiki for spam when asked to do so | 18:15 |
| andre__ | ah, ok | 18:15 |
| dneary_ | Jaffa, Do you still go to the Maemo wiki? | 18:15 |
| dneary_ | Jaffa, If none of the maintainers go, and no-one cares about the content, we should make the wiki read only | 18:15 |
| dneary_ | We can do that, you know :) | 18:16 |
| edheldil | thopiekar: maybe you are are missing hildon macros for automake | 18:16 |
| andre__ | the wiki is still in use, so why read-only? | 18:17 |
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| thopiekar | where are these hildon macros for automake located? maybe in scratchbox? or libhildon? | 18:17 |
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| dneary_ | andre__, Looks to me like the wiki is only in use by smappers | 18:18 |
| dneary_ | And why read-only? Because I don't want to get any more weekend emails asking me to revert spam edits :) | 18:18 |
| timeless | sounds logical | 18:18 |
| dneary_ | spammers, not smappers | 18:19 |
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| dneary_ | Thanks timeless :) | 18:19 |
| Jaffa | dneary_: I still go to it; and still use it. | 18:19 |
| Jaffa | dneary_: Surely anyone can revert spam edits? | 18:19 |
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| andre__ | dneary_, errm, no? see the latest changes - that's definitely not spammers only... | 18:20 |
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| dneary_ | andre__, Jaffa, then the people who go & edit it will need to share the maintenance burden | 18:21 |
| andre__ | makes sense | 18:21 |
| Jaffa | dneary_: I don't disagree - but I'm still not clear why you're having to do it | 18:21 |
| dneary_ | Jaffa, And no, reverting (properly) and banning users are sysop privileges | 18:22 |
| Jaffa | Oh | 18:22 |
| dneary_ | Jaffa, Just undoing the edit leaves the spam in the history, indexed by Google, and brings you more spammers | 18:22 |
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| dneary_ | You need to rollback the revision | 18:22 |
| dneary_ | Jaffa, You are an admin, thoughh | 18:22 |
| Jaffa | Indeed; which is what I've been clicking | 18:23 |
| Jaffa | So, there needs to be a distributed point-of-contact rather than people emailing you | 18:23 |
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| Jaffa | e.g. a mailing list of ppl who can do it | 18:23 |
| dneary_ | Yup | 18:23 |
| dneary_ | You can see all the sysops in Special:Users | 18:23 |
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| dneary_ | (I think that's the name of the page) | 18:24 |
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| eijk | Hi! Is anybody aware of more recent e2fsprogs for the N900? The e2fsck 1.41.3 is ancient and seems to be causing problems on my device. | 19:16 |
| eijk | I was able to copy my filesystem image to desktop and repair it there with 1.41.14. | 19:16 |
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| thopiekar | asked that on a ubuntu channel but didn't get any answer.. where is the difference between building a package with pbuilder and dpkg-buildpackage? I am able to build a package via dpkg-buildpackage but it fails in pbuilder (launchpad).. http://pastebin.com/xgmspmn5 .. what can I do? | 19:25 |
| thopiekar | aah wrong channel :D | 19:25 |
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| Sc0rpius | well all I can say from your pastebin is | 19:30 |
| Sc0rpius | that your autotools can't locate pkg.m4 and they are not parsing it, that's why you get the syntax error on PKG_CHECK_MODULES | 19:31 |
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| thopiekar | seems to be a missing package! | 19:33 |
| NIN101 | eijk: I kind have the feeling that you ran fsck on a partition which was mounted :-) | 19:34 |
| thopiekar | many thanks Sc0rpius! searched for a solution for hours! | 19:34 |
| Sc0rpius | seems to be an ugly mixed up environment | 19:34 |
| Sc0rpius | well I'd say that your autotools have a different default prefix for packages than pkg-config... | 19:34 |
| eijk | NIN101: Sorry, you are wrong. It's not mounted. I know what I am doing :-) | 19:34 |
| thopiekar | Sc0rpius: yes, I'm building hildon-desktop on Ubuntu.. found the missing package, called: pkg-config | 19:35 |
| NIN101 | eijk: it's possible to compile a newer version in the sdk. | 19:35 |
| Sc0rpius | why are you building hildon-desktop on Ubuntu?!?! | 19:35 |
| eijk | NIN101: Ok, just thought there might be something in the Community SSU that I didn't spot yet. | 19:35 |
| eijk | It would be great to also have those core tools updated. | 19:35 |
| thopiekar | Want to use the hildon-desktop on my ASUS T91, which has working graphics drivers on Ubuntu.. | 19:36 |
| NIN101 | the aging software is probably the most annoying thing in maemo. | 19:36 |
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| thopiekar | I'm actually making on every new Ubuntu release a downgrade for it (the Intel EMGD driver) | 19:36 |
| Sc0rpius | hmmm | 19:37 |
| Sc0rpius | have you heard of "Ubuntu mobile"? | 19:37 |
| Sc0rpius | that already has hildon | 19:37 |
| thopiekar | some kind of Cordia for Ubuntu.. https://launchpad.net/~cordia-team/ | 19:37 |
| thopiekar | yes but OS2008 | 19:37 |
| thopiekar | as far as I remember.. | 19:38 |
| Sc0rpius | well yeah I guess they stopped development of that | 19:38 |
| thopiekar | I think only because Nokia moved to git.. there are code imports in launchpad but they point to old svn url's | 19:39 |
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| thopiekar | I use now smoku's sources and build it in that PPA | 19:40 |
| thopiekar | hildon-desktop seems to work well, just have no themes at the moment | 19:40 |
| thopiekar | :) | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | ok let's say you install hildon and all that stuff | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | that Asus T91 is a tablet? | 19:40 |
| Sc0rpius | I'll give you one week and you'll wipe it | 19:41 |
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| Sc0rpius | the lack of software thought to use by finger touch will drive you nuts | 19:42 |
| thopiekar | the ASUS T91 is a netbook+tablet (convertable) | 19:42 |
| thopiekar | thats what the [T]91 stands for.. | 19:43 |
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| thopiekar | I also found out that hildon-theme-slicer is broken when build in amd64 | 19:44 |
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| thopiekar | Sc0rpius: but I haven't thought about that problem with the keyboard before.. I mean I have not much problems while having a keyboard but pure tables would need a usb-keyboard.. | 19:47 |
| thopiekar | isn't there a project providing a input plugin for hildon? | 19:47 |
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| Sc0rpius | pure tablets don't really need USB keyboards... | 19:51 |
| Sc0rpius | I mean I have an Android tablet and it's fine without a keyboard | 19:51 |
| Sc0rpius | because the whole thing was designed to not have a physical keyboard, all the apps, all the user interface, etc. | 19:52 |
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| thopiekar | sure all I would need to add now would be a on-screen keyboard which shows up like on my N900 when clicking on a textfield | 19:56 |
| thopiekar | I'm sure I saw such a project on the net | 19:56 |
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| Venemo_N900 | thopiekar, there are many | 19:57 |
| thopiekar | found it http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit | 19:57 |
| thopiekar | which would be the best for a Ubuntu system? , Venemo_N900 | 19:57 |
| Venemo_N900 | thopiekar, I have no idea. there is hildon-input-method which may or may not work, but isn't maintained, or maliit which is used in Meego and Harmatta | 19:59 |
| Venemo_N900 | n | 19:59 |
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| thopiekar | that could be useful for the beginning: https://launchpad.net/~openismus-team/+archive/openismus-meego-im/+packages | 20:02 |
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| NIN101 | ~seen jonwil | 20:10 |
| infobot | jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 4d 3h 41m 30s ago, saying: 'I cant find anything about that anywhere'. | 20:10 |
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| Tenkawa | anyone know offhand if the n800 hardware drivers ever made it to the mainstream kernel? | 21:16 |
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| dzho | interesting question | 22:06 |
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| dzho | I'd take "made it to the mainstream kernel" to mean, as in source code. | 22:07 |
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| dzho | though the kernel does carry binary blobs now too, doesn't it? That's as far as it would probably have gone for n800-specific hardware, if I had to guess. | 22:07 |
| dzho | and I do (have to guess, that is). | 22:07 |
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| Corsac | hmhm, does “connection refused / security block" rings a bell to someone (connection to n900 via bluetooth) | 23:15 |
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| edheldil_ | Hi, I am using pyside with phonon to play sound. That works. But audioOutput.setVolume(...) does not work and the sound always plays on full volume. What am I doing wrong? | 23:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | using phonon maybe? | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | phonon makes me want to go vomiting whenever I try to configure my KDE in a way it doesn't suck, regarding audio | 23:21 |
| edheldil_ | ha ha. There's not other working audio interface in python+qt | 23:21 |
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| edheldil_ | ... on n900 | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | phonen feels like PA-mindfsck^2 | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | phonon* | 23:22 |
| RST38h | Man, you vomit a lot | 23:22 |
| RST38h | Maybe switching to FreeBSD/Xfce/dsp0 will help? | 23:22 |
| edheldil_ | anyway, there's not replacement, so regardless of it suckiness, I would like to get it work | 23:23 |
| edheldil_ | its | 23:23 |
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