| Estel_ | Sicelo, this is how bq27200 is supposed to work, Still, what You should do to measure depends on what You're trying to achieve. Momentary power consumption - bq or some i2c pooling. Average consumption - bq without 5, as shadowjk said, wait some hours, re-check, divide. | 00:00 |
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| balrog-k1n | is there an wasy way to tell maemo that i'm offline and don't want to/can't get online? | 05:03 |
| balrog-k1n | for soem reason if you've got maemo-mapper and the camera app on at the same time, it pops up the connection dialog after every photo taken, really annoying | 05:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | settings -> location or something | 05:20 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | hey guys | 05:23 |
| Sazpaimon_ | I'm trying to build a specific toolchain using crosstool-ng, and when it tries to build the shared eglibc, I get this during linking: http://pastebin.com/5wZAVUvK | 05:23 |
| Sazpaimon_ | I'm building it using scratchbox, using the eglibc source package supplied by maemo | 05:24 |
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| zerocool999 | hello | 13:06 |
| zerocool999 | anybody help me with a queenbeecon issue | 13:07 |
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| Sicelo | not unless they know the issue :) | 13:08 |
| zerocool999 | haha | 13:08 |
| merlin1991 | !ask | 13:08 |
| merlin1991 | or was it question? Too many channels with different bots :) | 13:08 |
| zerocool999 | trying to run ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L | 13:09 |
| zerocool999 | using queenbeecon i need it to open xterminal as root but it just opens then closes | 13:09 |
| psycho_oreos | ~ask | 13:11 |
| infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 13:11 |
| * Sicelo is here against his will :p | 13:11 | |
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| zerocool999 | my issue better explained .. http://pastebin.com/JJdH20Uc many thanks | 13:19 |
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| zerocool999 | my issue better explained .. http://pastebin.com/JJdH20Uc many thanks | 13:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | Does it need to be root | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | simply | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | In more detail. | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | find out where /etc/sudoers is populated | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | It's in /etc/ somewhere - look for a directory called something like sudo | 13:52 |
| SpeedEvil | this has lots of files, which add lines to /etc/sudoers - the format is obvious | 13:52 |
| SpeedEvil | Add one listing the program you want to run | 13:52 |
| SpeedEvil | Now, in queen beecon do sudo commandname | 13:52 |
| SpeedEvil | And you're done | 13:53 |
| SpeedEvil | (you'll need to reboot first, or populate /etc/sudoers poperly) | 13:53 |
| NIN101 | or couldn't he simply use: echo "ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" | root ? | 13:53 |
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| CableTwitch | Y'ello | 13:53 |
| deimos | or "su -c <command>" | 13:54 |
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| NIN101 | this requires a password to be entered. | 13:54 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed | 13:56 |
| SpeedEvil | the sudoers route doesn't | 13:56 |
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| zerocool999 | try your suggestions now speedevil back in min | 13:57 |
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| CableTwitch | Hey Speed. | 13:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | etc/sudoers.d/<yourappname> | 13:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus run update-sudoers (instead of boot) | 13:59 |
| CableTwitch | Ah, Doc is awake too :O) | 14:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, moo | 14:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | not yet awake | 14:03 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - that | 14:03 |
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| CableTwitch | It's 12:05pm... How are you not awake? | 14:05 |
| SpeedEvil | I am also not awake, and it's only 12:06 here. | 14:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you from the future? | 14:06 |
| zerocool999 | well speed that command never it doesnt open terminal | 14:07 |
| zerocool999 | many thanks thou , hummm what next | 14:07 |
| CableTwitch | I am. Which is why I keep breaking my N900. It's getting older, faster :O) | 14:07 |
| CableTwitch | Something to do with neutrinos, the details escape me. | 14:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | zerocool999: Oh - it won't open a terminal | 14:09 |
| * CableTwitch puts the network cable back in | 14:09 | |
| SpeedEvil | That just lets the command run | 14:09 |
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| SpeedEvil | If you want it to open a terminal, you have to call the terminal, and get it to execute teh command - which I don't know how to do | 14:09 |
| SpeedEvil | that works only for things without UI | 14:09 |
| SpeedEvil | I use it to dim the screen to its lowest level, and to mount filesystems | 14:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CableTwitch: I never sleep, but most of my storage needed a fsck.nnw - so I had to reboot and not all services are up yet | 14:10 |
| CableTwitch | I was with you up to the word 'sleep'. | 14:10 |
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| zerocool999 | it doesnt have a UI it runs throu xterminal .. | 14:12 |
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| zerocool999 | my issue better explained .. http://pastebin.com/JJdH20Uc many thanks | 14:12 |
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| merlin1991 | zerocool999: try to run osso-xterm -e "ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" instead | 14:13 |
| zerocool999 | thats the command i used first , it just opens the closes | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CableTwitch: a pun, as many users here think I'm a script (or skynet) | 14:14 |
| CableTwitch | You never seem to be absent, tis true. | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | except when needing a fsck.nnw, but that's rare | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nevertheless takes a while nwfs is hard to check | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | nnwfs* | 14:16 |
| CableTwitch | Doc, you could post any random 3-5 letters, and I'd assume it was something to do with linux. | 14:16 |
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| CableTwitch | "The fgrtf process needed uugrt run on it, so I took the opportinity to lkkr and gblm at the same time" | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | and no, that's not novel netware :-P | 14:17 |
| merlin1991 | zerocool999: taken from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30808 /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-xterm.launch -e "ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" | 14:18 |
| merlin1991 | at least with a tail it worked | 14:18 |
| zerocool999 | @merlin just opens an closes , when using queenbeecon | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | more along neuronal network fuzzy slices, or simply neuronal network file system (though it's not really a fs) | 14:19 |
| CableTwitch | Shit, you're a LISP program? ;O) | 14:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dng how did you find out? | 14:20 |
| CableTwitch | Well, it was either that or Eliza, but you haven't asked me to tell you my thoughts, so it was an easy answer. | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | good ol'Eliza, occasionally chatting with her when I'm bored | 14:22 |
| CableTwitch | I'm hoping she's much improved from the Paris Hilton sim I recall from my Amiga days. | 14:23 |
| zerocool999 | queen beecon my issue better explained .. http://pastebin.com/JJdH20Uc many thanks | 14:23 |
| CableTwitch | About 10 responses, that's yer lot. | 14:23 |
| sat2050 | guys i need some help | 14:24 |
| sat2050 | my microb keeps refreshing after a full load | 14:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | the funny thing about Eliza: she also seems to work in a somehow distributed way, I meet her in quite a number of places. But yeah, she's as boring as she been from beginning | 14:25 |
| CableTwitch | Mine is just useless. | 14:25 |
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| CableTwitch | I'm surprised no-one has ported an Eliza clone to the 900 | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | sat2050: you're sure that's not the webpages you visist that are causing that? | 14:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CableTwitch: meet here next website: http://www.google.de/search?q=eliza | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | her | 14:27 |
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| CableTwitch | Doc, I'm going to guess you're German, yes? XD | 14:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SOL3 | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | but one of my favourite locale settings is indeed de_DE | 14:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mostly because de.wikipedia.com is better than en.wikipedia.com | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | it just happens my avatar also frequently is located there | 14:36 |
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| zerocool999 | is that all cabletwitch, this is doing my nut in i need more haha | 14:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | zerocool999: why would you use queenbeecon for that? | 14:48 |
| zerocool999 | @doc why not use , i just want to create shortcut to open metasploit | 14:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | to start an app in xterm, see /usr/share/applications/hildon/mc.desktop | 14:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Exec=osso-xterm -e mc | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | for you that's probably Exec=osso-xterm -e "ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" | 14:51 |
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| zerocool999 | i have tryed that , nothing happens | 14:52 |
| zerocool999 | cheers thou , its a nightmare | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, the sudo part | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | for you that's probably Exec=osso-xterm -e "sudo ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe even | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | for you that's probably Exec=osso-xterm -e "sudo run-standalone.sh ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" | 14:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | of course it's wise to first test the "sudo run-standalone.sh ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" part in a "normal" xterm | 14:55 |
| hakkattakk | do you guys think OpenMobile ACL will work with Maemo? It would be awesome if it where posible to get Android-apps running on Maemo. | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | to find out about any error msgs | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | hakkattakk: never heard of it (implies nobody else talked about it here, while I listened) | 14:56 |
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| CableTwitch | Zerocool: I'll try more in a bit, moving trains currently.... | 14:56 |
| hakkattakk | DocScrutinizer: http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/22/openmobile-demos-acl-for-meego-promises-100-compatibility-with/ | 14:57 |
| hakkattakk | it´s like Alien Dalvik | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 14:57 |
| zerocool999 | thanks @cable and @doc nothing at all xterminal doesnt even open | 14:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | note that a lot of the more gifted devels are addicted to that dead end project - for unknown reasons. What's been the name...? dang, anyway it was with aegis and crap... | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | zerocool999: xterm has the annoying "feature" to avoid multiple instances | 15:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | iirc not even mc starts when there's already a xterm screen open | 15:01 |
| Sicelo | irssi does | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh it does | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | so check the mc.desktop file more closely | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if the command to start your app runs in a plain xterm window (as suggested above) then I don't see why it can't run from a properly edited myapp.desktop icon | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/133813/ for your convenience | 15:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you first might use the original "Exec=osso-xterm -e mc" line and see if that summons midnight commander for you (given you got a mc installed) | 15:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if that works, you next test a small edit, like Exec=osso-xterm -e "mc" | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | then Exec=osso-xterm -e "mc --help" | 15:08 |
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| zerocool999 | haha i got osso-xterm -e "sudo ruby1.8 /home/user/msf3/msfconsole -L" .... i missed sudo out thanks doc for youe help | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | then Exec=osso-xterm -e "sh -c 'echo fooo; sleep 10'" | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 15:09 |
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| * DocScrutinizer frowns at anonymous edits on w.m.o | 15:17 | |
| DocScrutinizer | what the heck is wrong with requiring registration to allow edits? | 15:17 |
| ruskie | DocScrutinizer, no clue | 15:18 |
| ruskie | same for bug trackers etc... | 15:18 |
| ruskie | I don't get it why some allow anonymous posting | 15:19 |
| ruskie | the only info I ever got from such people was: oww it's so that users don't need to register... makes it easier for them | 15:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Phone_control&diff=0&oldid=45254 :-( | 15:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | more like http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Phone_control&diff=45461&oldid=45254 | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | and http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Phone_control&diff=next&oldid=45461 | 15:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ok, earns me wiki edit points for my karma (urgently need another 2 points :-P) - nevertheless it's annoying | 15:27 |
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| * DocScrutinizer realizes that it's not a virtual Sunday in other parts of the world | 15:28 | |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders what's mwkn all about today... | 15:29 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | errrr, nuttin? | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: ?? no mwkn? | 15:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~cookie | 15:33 |
| * infobot spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... zip 81435... Telluride San Miguel CO | 15:33 | |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll eventually nuke thoe 70,000 ZIP factoids :-S | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~listkeys zip | 15:34 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'zip ' by key (20 of 42379): says i got gzip but there ;; zip 10931 ;; zip 12950 ;; zip 14145 ;; zip 20398 ;; zip 26633 ;; zip 28358 ;; zip 32648 ;; zip 3268 ;; zip 33302 ;; zip 34224 ;; zip 46168 ;; zip 47551 ;; zip 48725 ;; zip 48912 ;; zip 52229 ;; zip 52557 ;; zip 55121 ;; zip 56063 ;; zip 59419. | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh only 42,000 | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo zip 33302 | 15:35 |
| infobot | zip 33302 -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~cookie | 15:36 |
| infobot | Hey docscrutinizer, zip 68879 is Taylor Loup NE | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | >:-(( | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~cookie | 15:36 |
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| infobot | Hey docscrutinizer, zip 50323 is Urbandale Polk IA | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~cookie | 15:36 |
| * infobot pulls out the cookie jar and finds jargon purple book... n. The `System V Interface Definition'. The covers of the first editions were an amazingly nauseating shade of off-lavender. See also {{book titles}}. | 15:36 | |
| * DocScrutinizer makes mental note to pester TimRiker about ZIP | 15:36 | |
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| * CableTwitch pokes DocScrutinizer to turn the screensaver off. | 16:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer | eh? | 16:02 |
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| jave | hello | 16:56 |
| crashanddie | hi | 16:56 |
| jave | I'm having trouble with my dear n900 lately. it has aquired gourmet tastes regarding charging | 16:56 |
| jave | only a few charging options work | 16:57 |
| hiemanshu | thats the USB starting to wear off | 16:57 |
| jave | is it possible to affect the charging options through software? | 16:57 |
| jave | ? | 16:57 |
| jave | you mean the connector? | 16:58 |
| jave | it doesnt seem to be affected by the particular cable I use, rather the particular charging device | 16:58 |
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| SpeedEvil | jave: What do you mean? | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | o/ crashanddie | 17:03 |
| crashanddie | hey DocScrutinizer | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | jave: what are "charging options"? | 17:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | moo SpeedEvil | 17:05 |
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| crashanddie | Owner: "Hey N900, would you like to be charged?" N900: "What do you offer, you slimy weasel?" Owner: "I have 5V DC, 9V DC or 12V DC" N900: "Seriously? That's your menu? Your choice? Do you understand that I run one of the most advanced operating systems in the mobile industry? Do you honestly believe your food worthy of a 7/11-branded payphone fulfils my needs?" | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 17:07 |
| jave | SpeedEvil: for instance. I have 2 microusb dumb chargers. 1 nokia, 1 ///. the /// one works, not the nokia. I have 1 usb car charger. I can charge everything except the n900 with it. | 17:07 |
| crashanddie | //? | 17:07 |
| crashanddie | ///? | 17:07 |
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| jave | /// = ericsson | 17:08 |
| crashanddie | You have an adidas phone charger? | 17:08 |
| crashanddie | Oh | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | the usb charger will not work with N900 due to missing D+/- short | 17:08 |
| jave | crashanddie: thats exactly how my n900 behaves! like a spoiled brat | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | when the genuine Nokia charger doesn't work, that's most likely a broken charger then (got one here as well) | 17:09 |
| * MohammadAG curses Israeli shipping services | 17:09 | |
| DocScrutinizer | moo moh | 17:10 |
| jave | DocScrutinizer: oh, I see. is it possible to remove the chock in SW? or is it hardwired? | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | hardwired mostly | 17:10 |
| jave | okay. so I need to solder. | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's what I did to my noname USB chargers | 17:10 |
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| MohammadAG | Departed Facility in TEL AVIV - ISRAEL | 17:10 |
| MohammadAG | cool | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: spare 950? | 17:11 |
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| jave | DocScrutinizer: I thought the dumb chargers had the short. | 17:11 |
| crashanddie | "Departed facility"?? | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | most don't | 17:11 |
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| crashanddie | That sounds like a morgue! | 17:11 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, no, my N950 | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah | 17:11 |
| crashanddie | moo MohammadAG | 17:12 |
| crashanddie | how's it going? | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | it's going back | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | moo crashanddie | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | this short dialog was kinda funny | 17:12 |
| jave | Itake it the n950 is as elusive as ever | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | lag might've made my answer stupid | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, having trouble serializing / sending /deserializing stuff | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | we are smart, we rearranged the packages according to their pkg seq number ;-D | 17:13 |
| MohammadAG | that's pretty much it :P | 17:13 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, language? | 17:13 |
| MohammadAG | Qt/C++ | 17:13 |
| MohammadAG | I need to serialize a QMap, send it over a QBluetoothSocket, then deserialize it on the receiver | 17:14 |
| crashanddie | Why the QBluetoothSocket? | 17:14 |
| MohammadAG | remember that bluetooth messenger thing we discussed? | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | I had it implemented with simple QStrings at first | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | but then that got nasty | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | so I started a dictionary (QMap) implementation | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | the map holds the message type, the sender name, the message itself, and an optional avatar | 17:15 |
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| crashanddie | And you write the map over the wire directly? | 17:16 |
| MohammadAG | no, I serialize it to a QByteArray first | 17:16 |
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| * DocScrutinizer feels like CS became black magic since he had a look last time | 17:17 | |
| crashanddie | and, what do you get on the other side? | 17:17 |
| MohammadAG | a null QMap | 17:18 |
| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/mfDUVK6a | 17:18 |
| MohammadAG | well, and a null QByteArray | 17:18 |
| MohammadAG | the sending part seems fine, but the reading is the one I'm not sure about | 17:18 |
| crashanddie | go back to basics | 17:18 |
| crashanddie | send an int, read an int | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 17:18 |
| crashanddie | this being said | 17:19 |
| crashanddie | using a QMap is probably one of the worst ways to encode your message | 17:19 |
| MohammadAG | what's a better way? | 17:19 |
| MohammadAG | I wanted a QObject, but those can't be serialized | 17:20 |
| crashanddie | Well, the best way is to have an IDL, that allows you to automatically generate your classes | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | IDL? | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/FqKRVM0y <-- reading part | 17:20 |
| crashanddie | Interface Description Language | 17:20 |
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| crashanddie | Basically, if I were you, I'd look into Google Data Protocol | 17:21 |
| crashanddie | It might be overkill seeing the size of this project | 17:21 |
| MohammadAG | it is :P | 17:21 |
| * DocScrutinizer is used to defining a protocol and sending "plain text" then | 17:21 | |
| crashanddie | but those are really the kind of tools you want to look at if you're to start doing serious network-level applications | 17:21 |
| crashanddie | plus, GDP encoder/parser will run circles around Qt's serialisation | 17:22 |
| inz | MohammadAG, the canReadLine() and readLine() seem wrong | 17:22 |
| MohammadAG | inz, yeah, that's what I'm thinking | 17:22 |
| MohammadAG | but I'm not sure what else to use | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, is your socket in listeningstate? | 17:23 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 17:24 |
| inz | I'm not entirely sure, but maybe you could have a persistent QDataStream for the socket and just read with >> from it. | 17:24 |
| crashanddie | or connected? | 17:24 |
| MohammadAG | uh, I'm lost | 17:24 |
| MohammadAG | the slot | 17:24 |
| MohammadAG | 's called on readyRead() | 17:24 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, also, you might want to look at socketDescriptor() | 17:25 |
| crashanddie | and simply grab a BSD socket descriptor, and use that for subsequent transactions | 17:25 |
| crashanddie | And also, you did create your socket and do all the connectToServer() stuff with a read/write status, yes? | 17:26 |
| crashanddie | s/status/state/g | 17:26 |
| infobot | crashanddie meant: And also, you did create your socket and do all the connectToServer() stuff with a read/write state, yes? | 17:26 |
| crashanddie | s/Server/Service/ | 17:27 |
| infobot | crashanddie meant: And also, you did create your socket and do all the connectToService() stuff with a read/write status, yes? | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, yeah yeah, it's all getting sent | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | but I think I'm messing up the reading part | 17:27 |
| crashanddie | sent, yes | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | and received | 17:27 |
| crashanddie | ok | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | but I think readLine() would read one line, not all the QByteArray | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | readAll() would work better, but I'm not sure when I can know all the data was sent | 17:28 |
| crashanddie | so you're not serialising :) | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, that's what readline usually does | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and for the "all sent" part you will need some ETX signalling done explicitly on sender side I'd guess | 17:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | receiver can't know from thin air when a chunk of transmission is complete, unless you tear down the connection | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | on a sidenote: your if .. else if .. else if; is missing an else catchall. I'd rather use a case | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, it's not an enum | 17:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | are cases only valid for enum? | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | think so | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | or ints | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | but not QStrings | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah QStrings, yeah prolly not | 17:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | add else {printf("wtf, how did I get here?"); return 10} | 17:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I'd think you need to read in array[i] per line, until your sender sends "ETX" | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | a few debug printf for plain readline content would help a lot | 17:38 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | honestly, when your channel QBluetoothSocket is a mere ascii/binary channel, then why not send a printf("%s\n%s\n%s\n", messageType, message, sender) and read exactly same back on rx side | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if messageType doesn't match one of the 3 allowed constants, your RX will exit the loop and reastart waiting for a valid messageType to be sent | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | if messageType_is_valid then {read_message; read_sender} | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's basically not a good idea to try and transfer Objects via a channel | 17:54 |
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| cityLights | ~seen DocScrutinizer | 18:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | boooh! | 18:40 |
| cityLights | hi there | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi | 18:40 |
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| cityLights | ok, can you point ,me pls to where to read about why intel is not supporting meego anymore | 18:40 |
| cityLights | and what caused this | 18:40 |
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| cityLights | I saw too many reports that dont answer these basic questions | 18:42 |
| cityLights | will gstreamer, pulse audio, evolution,qt survive? | 18:43 |
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| slonopotamus | sure, they don't care about meego | 18:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sorry, no idea about all that | 18:49 |
| cityLights | some ppl wrtie clear to read code | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: http://pastebin.com/10jgJsjY <-draft of a simpler version to send your data thru the channel | 18:51 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, so how does the receiver identify what it's receiving? | 18:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: the common notion about the whole tizen thing is it's a kick-in-the-balls for Nokia, regarding N9 just started shipping with "meego" and one day later meego is declared dead. At least for timing | 18:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: the RX is waiting for a line that has any of the valid constants for messageType | 18:53 |
| cityLights | N9 doesnt appear in amazon/buy.com | 18:53 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, receiver is receiving from 7+ devices | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | but if you want to go for a more evaluated scheme, you want to wrap *all* messages with sth like "STX"<your-message><your-msg-line2>[..]"ETX" | 18:55 |
| MohammadAG | that means there's a crapload of race conditions | 18:55 |
| MohammadAG | plus I can't send an avatar that way | 18:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | all those concerns apply to your original concept as well, sure you need to take care about that - I have no idea what's the larger image of this small code snippet | 18:56 |
| * slonopotamus wonders where the hell is his n800's wlan0 | 18:57 | |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: sounds like you'll need some TCP-lite protocol stack then | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | this is Rfcomm | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whatever it is, if you have multiple TX peers on that channel, you need to implement a protocol layer that encapsulates one msg pkg, and also tags it with source and possibly destination (unless all traffic is broadcast), and you'll want to add some CRC or other checksum, and possibly a ACK/NAK and retry management scheme, in case collisions crippled the transferred pkg | 19:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | basically you also should take care your payload never forms a valid msg pkg (incl header/trailer), so RX clients that got outa sync not erroneously sync on the payload part and take that as a full frame | 19:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | all this won't magically disappear by tying to "send QObjects through the channel" | 19:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | either your channel stack already has a layer that implements all this, or you need to take care about it "by hand" | 19:07 |
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| kwtm | When I hold down a key on my N900, after a delay it erases the letter that was typed and replaces it with the symbol for that key as if I had pressed the Alt key. Is there any way I can shorten the delay to make the symbol show up faster? | 19:43 |
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| kwtm | !posix | 19:52 |
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| johnsu01 | up till now i've been keeping the maemo changes in the same changelog | 20:58 |
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| johnsu01 | but now I'm wondering if I want to paste in the new debian changelog entries, or move to using a separate file, like changelog.maemo | 20:59 |
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| zero_cool | hello peeps , quick question how do i stop apt-get ugrade not installing nmap beta ... | 21:03 |
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| faina | johnsu01: ubuntu tends to include "ubuntu" in the changelog version number, and treats debian as upstream. | 21:09 |
| johnsu01 | faina: yeah, I've got maemo in the version number | 21:10 |
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| Pauly2 | if proximity sensor is bad on one n900, can i switch it from another n900? | 22:56 |
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| Pauly2 | i know the screen and digitizer but not sure about proximity sensor? | 22:57 |
| kwtm | Just trying again to see if anyone knows: When I hold down a key on my N900, after a delay it erases the letter that was typed and replaces it with the symbol for that key as if I had pressed the Alt key. Is there any way I can shorten the delay to make the symbol show up faster? | 22:59 |
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| Sicelo | some gconf maybe :/ | 23:01 |
| Sicelo | ~joergtools | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools | 23:02 |
| infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 23:02 |
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| Sicelo | ah :) | 23:02 |
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| zogg_ | so cool | 23:20 |
| zogg_ | now nokia has rolling OS's strategy | 23:21 |
| zogg_ | every half year new OS | 23:21 |
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| Corsac | zogg_: new announcement you mean? | 23:28 |
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| mr_jrt | Looks like despite Meego's situation, we're not going to be getting the Mer project back as an option for continuing Maemo :( They seem quite keen on continuing Meego's archetectural decisons. More Meego Reconstructed than Maemo Reconstructed now... | 23:34 |
| rm_work | ?? what's this? | 23:35 |
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| NIN101 | with all this OS clutter I'm thinking of simply putting Debian on the N900, and forget all about Maemo/Meego etc. and using a dumbphone I have lying around here for call support until it'll work properly on Debian. Since I barely use the phone functions this could probably indeed be an option for me and others assuming one is willing to tinker a "bit". :-) | 23:43 |
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| mr_jrt | The way I see it, modern smartphones ARE computers, just with very limited power sources. | 23:44 |
| Sicelo | NIN101: \0/ | 23:45 |
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| mr_jrt | So a releationship with Debian is as simple as fixing the silly repo layout changes Nokia came up with and then forging a relationship with Debian similar to the one Ubuntu has, down to being integrated into Debian's package management system for tracking upstream/downstream changes. | 23:47 |
| mr_jrt | It's easy enough techically...the hard bit is, as ever, the human resource aspect. | 23:48 |
| mr_jrt | It's a dramatic simplification of the situation...but we're talking rough principles here ;) | 23:49 |
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| faina | why not start with the currently extant maemo and then update from debian? | 23:49 |
| faina | (a lot like how ubuntu works these days) | 23:50 |
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| NIN101 | Because at least I don't want to deal with the maemo stuff on debian, I want newer libs for example, and the closed programs depend on ancient library versions. I want newer kernel versions etc. | 23:52 |
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| mr_jrt | I'd suggest because we'll need to manage the repos...and having them as close to upstream (Debian) makes the transitions easier. I've never been that clear why Nokia arranged things as they did...some changes have seemed somewhat gratuitous in places. | 23:53 |
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| mr_jrt | Debian's layout has served it well over the last 18 years, and it's got built-in support for so many archs. | 23:55 |
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| faina | I'm not sure how different the maemo repository is when compared to debian? Other than they seem to have broken things into more repository tiers (e.g. extras extras-testing extra-devel) | 23:57 |
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| mr_jrt | stable, testing, unstable (why rename them?) | 23:59 |
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