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| e0x | how i can check if my device is still in warranty ? | 00:28 |
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| NIN101 | e0x: It is possible on some nokia sites, but it probably depends on your country. Google for "nokia warranty check" or somthing. In the EU your device is warranted for two years afaik (if bought new). | 00:41 |
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| mece | MohammadAG, ping | 09:15 |
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| psychologe | has someone used ipv6,,,,, | 09:59 |
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| psychologe | i ping ipv6.google.com ,it response PING ipv6.google.com (2404:6800:8005::67): 56 data bytes | 10:01 |
| psychologe | ping: sendto: Network is unreachable | 10:01 |
| ruskie | officially ipv6 isn't supported on the n900 last I heard | 10:01 |
| ruskie | or maybe I'm mis remembering that bit | 10:02 |
| ruskie | no clue | 10:02 |
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| psychologe | i install kernel-power | 10:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | moo | 10:16 |
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| flux | povbot, well, do you have an ipv6 address? does the gateway route ipv6 trffic? | 10:27 |
| povbot | flux: Error: "well," is not a valid command. | 10:27 |
| flux | oh, he's gone :) | 10:27 |
| ruskie | hehe | 10:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no surprise we're < 300 here, when internets think they can go down for no reason | 10:39 |
| * DocScrutinizer curses t-com, ZyXEL, Fuji-Sie, and the world | 10:40 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | and a special curse goes to the inventors of JS and particularly their invention of possibility to build endless loops in JS | 10:44 |
| ruskie | hehe | 10:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's *so nice* when a page like metawatch.com/forum hogs one of your two cores for several days, helps heating the room and makes me always remember the page with loving feelings | 10:46 |
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| cityLights | hi, I am traveling to Rome in a day, which application to get? | 10:53 |
| cityLights | is the re a bus sceduale application | 10:53 |
| cityLights | probably asked here alot | 10:54 |
| cityLights | which gps program to choose? | 10:55 |
| cityLights | I am trying to get the ovi maps | 10:55 |
| ruskie | the one that does offline stuff... | 10:55 |
| ruskie | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MoNav <-- like this? | 10:56 |
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| cityLights | is rome on openstreet? | 10:57 |
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| ruskie | probably | 10:57 |
| ruskie | I think most of the world is on there | 10:58 |
| cityLights | ok, I will install it no | 10:58 |
| cityLights | now | 10:58 |
| cityLights | hoped to find a bus application for rome | 10:58 |
| ruskie | there's a webtool so you select the area you want to download | 10:58 |
| ruskie | and it will generate an offline map for you | 10:58 |
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| ruskie | hmm | 10:59 |
| cityLights | monav-routing-daemon | 10:59 |
| ruskie | actually you can download premade offline stuff | 10:59 |
| cityLights | which is the frontend? | 10:59 |
| ruskie | monav | 10:59 |
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| cityLights | guess I need to get it from the google code site | 11:00 |
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| ruskie | cityLights, http://monav.openstreetmap.de/installers/monav-0.3-Maemo5.deb | 11:00 |
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| ruskie | and you want this as well: http://monav.openstreetmap.de/mapsets/Italy.zip | 11:00 |
| ruskie | http://monav.openstreetmap.de/ <_- here for more info | 11:00 |
| cityLights | sweet! | 11:00 |
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| ruskie | it also explains what you need to setup to make it work | 11:01 |
| ruskie | I was very happy and impressed with MoNav | 11:01 |
| cityLights | wow the second one is 1.1G | 11:01 |
| ruskie | yup | 11:01 |
| cityLights | good thing I cd to the micro sd | 11:01 |
| ruskie | it's entire Italy | 11:02 |
| cityLights | there used to be another program | 11:02 |
| cityLights | btw, will it run on the N800? | 11:03 |
| ruskie | this is n900 only build from what I see | 11:03 |
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| cityLights | ppl here used to talk about another navigation program | 11:04 |
| Sicelo | once question about monav, do u get map updates? | 11:04 |
| Sicelo | *one | 11:04 |
| cityLights | but I guess that is good for me | 11:04 |
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| cityLights | hope the setup is clear in the program | 11:05 |
| cityLights | will see in an hour after it downloads | 11:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd install marble - never even knew monav had a frontend | 11:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | an own frontend | 11:09 |
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| cityLights | does marble do offlie? | 11:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | marble has some quirks and probably you shouldn't use it for longer than 15min, then close and reopen ;-D | 11:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | marble uses monav | 11:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | among others | 11:10 |
| cityLights | o | 11:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | iirc monav comes boxed with marble, you don't need to install it separately | 11:12 |
| cityLights | I see | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why I thought it had no own fronend | 11:12 |
| cityLights | is there any chance I could buy a N9 there? | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you could, you'd get the first "working" nav app by Nokia that runs on a linux | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | needs online though | 11:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | it can't use monav ;-D | 11:14 |
| cityLights | wish I could fix my N800 there | 11:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 11:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no N800 here | 11:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I love the camera popout ;-P | 11:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: what's wrong with your N800? | 11:19 |
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| amiconn | [09:46:24] <DocScrutinizer> it's *so nice* when a page like metawatch.com/forum hogs one of your two cores for several days, helps heating the room and makes me always remember the page with loving feelings <== Clever browsers would have interrupted the script long before | 11:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'm not using a "clever browser", I simply curse and possibly nuke "dumb webpages" | 11:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | preferrably together with the moron webdesigners who made it | 11:31 |
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| cityLights | DocScrutinizer: my N800 screen rotates | 11:32 |
| cityLights | I mean like in the old tv sets | 11:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | and for sure curse JS designers for implementing endless loop constructs - may they burn in hell for that | 11:32 |
| cityLights | constant picture goes up | 11:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 11:32 |
| cityLights | should be easy to fix | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably a cable / connector issue? | 11:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | VSync broken? | 11:33 |
| cityLights | right | 11:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if it's not either the SoC or LCD controller chip that blows chunks, then it can't be hard to fix | 11:34 |
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| cityLights | where is the repair center in rome? | 11:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol, nfi | 11:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm a bit more north here | 11:36 |
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| cityLights | next time , maybe I visit you | 11:38 |
| cityLights | maybe fosdem | 11:38 |
| cityLights | havent been there in a while | 11:38 |
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| psycho_oreos | never expect when having background knowledge on something that the seller doesn't know.. it'll haunt you when the undesired outcome has been revealed. Something I ought to learn when I curiously asked a N900 seller | 12:09 |
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| ruskie | psycho_oreos, ??? | 12:24 |
| ruskie | that got cut at "when I curiously asked a N900 seller" | 12:24 |
| psycho_oreos | ruskie, I didn't say anything after that :) I asked the N900 seller on tmo thread which hardware revision he had. I was hoping (literally borderlining to expecting) his to be at least 2204 so that I could go and buy it. Turns out to be revision 2101 | 12:26 |
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| flux | what's the significance of that difference? | 12:28 |
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| psycho_oreos | its not publicly documented but I've been preferring the latter revisions as I have read many owners of broken microUSB ports to be 2101 | 12:33 |
| psycho_oreos | nobody apart from nokia guys would know what the revisions meant.. for the rest of us `normal' people. It may not mean anything that particularly significant unless if one were for instance curious enough to tally up information prior to acquring more N900 | 12:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: you also evaluated the ratio between broken usb on 2101 vs 2204 against the ratio of 2101 vs 2204 total out in the field? | 12:39 |
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| RST38h | Doc <== exercises scientifi approach | 12:39 |
| RST38h | scientific | 12:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | figure: 2101 sold: 500.000, known usb fatalities: 1000; 2204 sold: 2000, known USB fatalities: 600 | 12:40 |
| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, no I've only been tallying up all the revision numbers reported to have USB issues, came out that 2101 was reported the most. None have reported USB issues with 2204 or they didn't mention which revision they have | 12:40 |
| amiconn | RST38h: <== ZX Spectrum? | 12:40 |
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| psycho_oreos | I can't imagine the USB issue being as bad as overclocking with maybe only 2000 or so N900 capable of overclocking and the others would suffer detrimental issues :) | 12:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe the USB fatalities are not bound to hw-rev at all? Maybe only those manufactured in korea have issues with USB SMT while those made in e.g Hungary never had any issue, regardless of hw-rev? | 12:42 |
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| psycho_oreos | but.. I don't know the actual sums, those numbers are just `figuratively' speaking | 12:43 |
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| psycho_oreos | its hard to say but I'm going by solid facts considering I have two N900, one already really old and never had microUSB issue as big as having it fallen out. Both are 2204 | 12:44 |
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| MohammadAG | two 2101s, no problems | 12:44 |
| psycho_oreos | you could even probably argue those summit ones never had any issues yet there probably would be heaps of issues that people just didn't want to report it because they knew it was a pre-production device :p | 12:45 |
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| psycho_oreos | and the odds are stacked high, I somewhat would personally prefer revision 2204 than having to deal with 2101's `later found out' USB problem and requiring fix | 12:47 |
| MohammadAG | Texrat reported his preproduction device's USB fell out | 12:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | two 2101s, no problems either | 12:48 |
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| psycho_oreos | yeah there was a person reporting his 2101's USB never fell out after having it exposed to being pulled out/plugged back in 3-4 times each day. That was the same thread that I informed a potential buyer that maybe he should check which revision the seller actually has | 12:49 |
| psycho_oreos | lemme ask you guys conversely on the same notion of thought if you were in my shoes. Lets say your revision 2101 never had any issues, but you have enough money (just) to buy N900, there's a person selling his N900. You asked which revision he has and he informs you he has e.g. 1803. Would you still buy it? | 12:50 |
| psycho_oreos | s/buy N900/buy yet another N900/ | 12:51 |
| infobot | psycho_oreos meant: lemme ask you guys conversely on the same notion of thought if you were in my shoes. Lets say your revision 2101 never had any issues, but you have enough money (just) to buy yet another N900, there's a person selling his N900. You asked which revision he... | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | funny detail: 1, N900: | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | BogoMIPS : 499.92 | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | Features : swp half fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 | 12:51 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/19/verity_stob_september_shorts/ <-- lol | 12:52 |
| psycho_oreos | hmm features list is different compared to mine with 2203 | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2. N900 (same hw-rev, same processor rev): | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | BogoMIPS : 249.96 | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 | 12:52 |
| ruskie | fun | 12:52 |
| ruskie | maybe it's what's enabled or something? | 12:52 |
| ruskie | and at what freq its running? | 12:53 |
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| psycho_oreos | same kernel I presume? | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | not same kernel, of course ;-D | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2nd is an ancient h-e-n enabled PK-v44 or sth, 1st is recent stock kernel | 12:54 |
| psycho_oreos | I meant same kernel version.. I'm guessing thumbee features seems to have appeared in latter versions of kernel.. there was a tmo thread about it at one stage. I think Hurrian talked about it | 12:55 |
| psycho_oreos | I have one on pk48 and the other on pk47, both have the same feature list | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | and does it look like my 1st or my 2nd one? | 12:56 |
| psycho_oreos | both looks like your second one | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh | 12:56 |
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| psycho_oreos | :) so its kernel version that makes the difference so far | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, ok. that's a PK feature then | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably PK enables thumb and thumbee | 12:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc how the lower bogomips are caused | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | for those who like to join in on the game: cat /proc/cpuinfo | 13:00 |
| MohammadAG | thumb and thumbee are enabled by default? | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | not on my PR1.3 CSSU device obviously | 13:01 |
| MohammadAG | I thought thumb2 causes crashes though | 13:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e 'Bogo\|Feat\|Rev'; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; uname -a | 13:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e 'Bogo\|Feat\|Rev'; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; uname -a | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | BogoMIPS : 499.92 | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | Features : swp half fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | Revision : 2101 | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | Linux IroN900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | . | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | t900:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e 'Bogo\|Feat\|Rev'; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; uname -a | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | BogoMIPS : 249.96 | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Revision : 2101 | 13:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0 | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | Linux t900 2.6.28.10power46 #1 PREEMPT Sun Dec 12 03:11:24 EET 2010 armv7l unknown | 13:08 |
| MohammadAG | any apache experts? | 13:10 |
| MohammadAG | when I put up an mp3 or avi file it says forbidden | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 13:11 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: chmod? | 13:11 |
| MohammadAG | chmod what? | 13:11 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: Make sure everyone can read the file? | 13:11 |
| MohammadAG | right now it's -rwxr-x--- | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah | 13:12 |
| X-Fade | a+r | 13:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | chmod o+r | 13:12 |
| MohammadAG | thanks | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | np | 13:13 |
| psycho_oreos | chmod 764 | 13:13 |
| MohammadAG | what does that mean btw? | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ? | 13:14 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: Count the bits :) | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 421421421 | 13:14 |
| psycho_oreos | 4 for read, 2 for write and 1 for execute. They are octal bits fyi | 13:15 |
| X-Fade | rwx == 111 == 1+2+4 == 7 | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ugo | 13:15 |
| MohammadAG | still don't get it :p | 13:15 |
| X-Fade | 111b | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | user: r(4) + w(2) + x(1) = 7 | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | group 4 + 1 | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | others: nuttin = 0 | 13:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | -rwxr-x--- = 750 | 13:17 |
| MohammadAG | is there a way to show symlinks in the dir listing? | 13:17 |
| psycho_oreos | the first dash is usually for special bits, like sticky usually | 13:17 |
| psycho_oreos | find -type l | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | user=7 group=5 others=0 | 13:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (special bits) also link, dir, etc | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | block/char device | 13:18 |
| psycho_oreos | or user=(read + write + execute or 4+2+1=7), group=(read + execute or 4+0+1=5), others=(<nil> or 0+0+0=0) | 13:18 |
| psycho_oreos | yup | 13:18 |
| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, http://pastebin.com/tad16Qx2 <--- fyi about that N900 features comparison + firmware version + uname -a (well I added one more extra command into the mix :)) | 13:19 |
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| psycho_oreos | MohammadAG, did you try that? find -type l | 13:20 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 13:20 |
| MohammadAG | it shows my symlinks | 13:20 |
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| psycho_oreos | hah looks like I lied :x I have both on pk48. I guess I upgraded because of the scare with BME issue or whatever it was | 13:21 |
| psycho_oreos | was that what you wanted though? | 13:21 |
| MohammadAG | I wanted my symlinks to show in apache's dir listing | 13:21 |
| psycho_oreos | I think find may recursively show symlinks if there's subdirectory under the parent directory where you issued find | 13:22 |
| MohammadAG | and be able to download them from another device on the network | 13:22 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh | 13:22 |
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| psycho_oreos | I'm definitely not an apache expert (in fact my skills has quickly dulled over the years.. these days I probably look at xampp instead) | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | symlinks show like normal files in apache dir | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | usually *-latest is a symlink | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | but they don't | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | chmod ;-) | 13:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: anyway the file that the symlink points to must be readable by apache as well | 13:25 |
| MohammadAG | apache's running as root | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's meaning nothing | 13:26 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: FollowSymLinks in <directory> part of your config | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | apache mustn't leave the specified dirs | 13:26 |
| MohammadAG | X-Fade, oh, I have that in .htaccess | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | root@mohammad-i5laptop:/var/www# cat .htaccess | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | Options +FollowSymLinks | 13:27 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: Well, then you need to make sure you are allowed to do that :) And if the path is correct. | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | X-Fade, this is all on my laptop P | 13:27 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: You need the <directory> tags surrounding it. | 13:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://mohammadag.org/../../../../../../etc/shadow | 13:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | beware | 13:29 |
| X-Fade | Oh .htaccess. Then make sure it gets used. Can also a rights issue on that file. | 13:29 |
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| MohammadAG | may I add that the symlink points to a file on an NTFS filesystem | 13:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 13:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | gets better and better ;-D | 13:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | may I suggest you try it with a test file in your ~ first, point to that and see if the link works for that | 13:33 |
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| merlin1991 | symlink to ntfs, craziness ftw | 13:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: http://superuser.com/questions/244245/how-do-i-get-apache-to-follow-symlinks | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems to have some useful comments | 13:47 |
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| kevin_b | hey guys, anyone around has a Ffmpeg mp3 converter/extractor? | 15:28 |
| kevin_b | any fremantle deb ? | 15:29 |
| ruskie | erm... you mean convert from mp3 to wav or something? | 15:29 |
| kevin_b | I'd like to extract acc stream from youtube mp4 and convert it | 15:29 |
| kevin_b | in mp3, because mediaPlayer dont wanna be fed with aac | 15:30 |
| ruskie | use youtube-dl ? it has an option for extracting audio... though not sure into what and how | 15:31 |
| _berto_ | mplayer can do the work | 15:31 |
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| fizzie | youtube-dl's audio-extracting option just assumes the system in question has the ffmpeg/ffprobe binaries available, then calls those to extract the audio stream and optionally convert it. | 15:46 |
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| kevin_b | even though libfaad is present ffmpeg doesnt seem to be able to load it at run time or somehow | 15:51 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: Wealthy Americans Turning To Europe For Medical Treatment | 16:05 |
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| X-Fade | Did nobody mention http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ yet? | 17:48 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Yaarrrr! | 17:49 |
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| MohammadAG | Thar be a new feermwaaar for yer N950 | 17:50 |
| mece | oops | 17:50 |
| mece | Who made the irc chatter app? Venemo? | 17:50 |
| hiemanshu | mece: me and Venemo yes | 17:51 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Avast, MohammadAG, ye mutinous galley slave if that be a lie it's to the plank with ye! | 18:09 |
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| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, http://twitter.com/#!/ozetadev/status/115602190785187840 | 18:13 |
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| javispedro | pft. | 18:14 |
| javispedro | I wonder why he mentioned that.. | 18:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Silly | 18:17 |
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| rhkfin | Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit and planning to flash rootfs on N900. Should I install flasher_3.11.5_amd64.deb (description says it's for Harmattan) - it's then only 64-bit available. Or go with maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz ? | 18:42 |
| rhkfin | ah, If you are using 64-bit Linux, you'll need to force installation as follows: | 18:43 |
| rhkfin | so I'll go with 32-bit flasher-3.5.deb | 18:44 |
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| thopiekar | ping Venemo | 21:06 |
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| ErwinJunge | ale152: Did you get gphoto to work? | 21:32 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Anybody got a list of canned vibra patterns? | 22:00 |
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| ErwinJunge | ? | 22:04 |
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| ErwinJunge | GeneralAntilles: I have no idea what that means :) | 22:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | For mce.ini | 22:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | A list of patterns people have already worked out so I don't have to experiment with them for 30 minutes. | 22:05 |
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| ErwinJunge | Ah, in that case: can't help you. Never messed with it. | 22:09 |
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| ale152 | hello ErwinJunge! | 23:09 |
| ale152 | no, o didn't :( | 23:10 |
| ErwinJunge | ale152: hi :) | 23:10 |
| ErwinJunge | np, was just wondering | 23:10 |
| ale152 | it gave me some errors like "permission denied" | 23:10 |
| ErwinJunge | oh, so you did try but it didn't work | 23:10 |
| ErwinJunge | :( | 23:10 |
| ale152 | yes | 23:11 |
| ale152 | tomorrow i have an exam, after that i'll try again :D | 23:12 |
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| ale152 | *i'm haveing | 23:13 |
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