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| meegoexperts | Gary Will be Missed, it was a pleasure to have known him. | 00:30 |
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| pugvader | this was my fav song 18 years ago | 01:12 |
| pugvader | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGBt6C7x7Iw | 01:12 |
| pugvader | where's lardman | 01:12 |
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| pugvader | if you're into computers, check that soung out | 01:13 |
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| pugvader | ahead of its time | 01:13 |
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| pugvader | VERY FAR | 01:13 |
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| GeneralAntilles | meegoexperts, yeah, we're all reeling. | 01:20 |
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| h_marks | hello | 03:31 |
| h_marks | wondering it is posible to do same with nokia n900 | 03:31 |
| h_marks | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRWzFeLVko | 03:32 |
| h_marks | interesting video | 03:32 |
| h_marks | for somebody :) | 03:32 |
| h_marks | would like to add something similar to my device | 03:33 |
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| h_marks | meego could add somthing similar as google doo | 03:34 |
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| h_marks | http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/adk.html | 03:36 |
| h_marks | what do you think? | 03:38 |
| h_marks | ok clear i like it too | 03:40 |
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| Jerbnik | you see the market cozld aupport linux phones | 04:02 |
| Jerbnik | If there was less waste, bureaucracy and war | 04:03 |
| Jerbnik | but we didnt want to think about fighting | 04:03 |
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| Macor | well | 05:00 |
| Macor | guess it is comcasts bimonthly outage time | 05:01 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo Jaffa | 11:32 |
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| bash` | sorry, I didn't check if this has already been discussed, but after the recent updates I cannot lock/unlock my n900 with the key on the right | 12:20 |
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| psychologe | hello badys | 12:41 |
| psychologe | has someone instersting hydra .Hydra is a tool to guess/crack valid login/password pairs .......install the newest version on my N900 | 12:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: morning! | 13:22 |
| psychologe | hi | 13:22 |
| javispedro | morning folks | 13:24 |
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| RST38h | Ballmer: Windows Phones aren't selling very well, but we're not worried | 14:59 |
| RST38h | http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/ballmer-windows-phones-arent-selling-very-well-but-were-not/ | 14:59 |
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| ZogG | morning | 14:59 |
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| ZogG | RST38h, hey, just read about lcuk, is it true or joke? | 15:00 |
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| RST38h | ZogG: true =( | 15:00 |
| RST38h | With Nokia we have a dedicated hardware partner that is all-in on Windows Phones, Ballmer said. They are not doing something on Android or [any other operating system]. | 15:00 |
| ZogG | damn =( | 15:00 |
| ZogG | how old he was? | 15:00 |
| RST38h | 'damn' does not even start to describe it | 15:00 |
| RST38h | 30s | 15:00 |
| ZogG | what happened ? | 15:01 |
| ZogG | was a good guy =( | 15:01 |
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| RST38h | nobody knows | 15:01 |
| RST38h | Meanwhile, this Uncle Fester appears to be gloating about the whole Elop deal... | 15:02 |
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| ZogG | who is fester? | 15:08 |
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| Jaffa | ZogG: Addams' Family | 15:09 |
| Jaffa | (see also: my brother) | 15:09 |
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| _trine | it looks like Nokia and Netgear etc are forming a go out of business quick club | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | With HP | 15:14 |
| RST38h | you forgot hp | 15:14 |
| RST38h | ah, ok, SpeedEvil caught it | 15:14 |
| _trine | they'll be part of the etc group | 15:14 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: Did you try feeding him bulbs? | 15:15 |
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| RST38h | [related question: anyone tried feeding Ballmer bulbs?] | 15:15 |
| _trine | I didnt know until this week I only live a short distance from where Lcuk lived | 15:17 |
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| Venemo | mornin | 15:21 |
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| ShadowJK | What's netgear doing? | 15:23 |
| ShadowJK | except putting bad caps in my ethernet switch | 15:23 |
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| RST38h | Ballmer: Windows Phone can win third place in mobile! | 15:26 |
| crashanddie | I heard they were going down to the beach | 15:26 |
| RST38h | [no shit, if they kill Symbian] | 15:26 |
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| RST38h | Chief executive Steven Elop, a former Microsoft executive, is reported to have decided Nokia phones in the US will only be available ready locked into carriers' networks and that unlocked phones that let you the consumer pick the network you want will no longer be sold. | 15:27 |
| RST38h | Cheers, American users. | 15:27 |
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| Corsac | RST38h: isn't that a way to have more nokia phones subsidized? | 15:29 |
| RST38h | Corsac: No idea | 15:30 |
| Corsac | (I don't know the current state of nokia phones in the us, wrt carriers, but I had the impression they weren't really interested right now) | 15:30 |
| RST38h | It is a way to make sure no discerning power user will ever buy your phone though | 15:30 |
| Corsac | I'm not sure it's considered bad though :) | 15:30 |
| * RST38h doubts any amount of ass licking will make a carrier subsidize inferior, unpopular product over a popular one | 15:31 | |
| X-Fade | Well, they are sort of locked anyway. By network technology. Not a whole lot of options. | 15:31 |
| RST38h | Actually, latest Nokia phones are (were?) penta-band | 15:31 |
| RST38h | so it is not that bad | 15:31 |
| RST38h | won't give you cdma, but you should be ok with gsm/umts networks | 15:32 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: And there are lots of those in the US :) | 15:33 |
| RST38h | Well, there are just a few carriers in the us to begin with | 15:33 |
| RST38h | but you can at least choose between those | 15:33 |
| X-Fade | Afaik there is only one left on gsm? | 15:34 |
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| RST38h | X-Fade: Both TMobile and AT&T are GSM and nobody is letting them merge yet | 15:54 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: There are also smaller providers around, if I understand things correctly, especially in midwest | 15:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: though I admit I never really understood if USA carrier situation is really that bad, it seems to me there are like 100 carriers offering GSM, just only for little patches of whole USA | 16:07 |
| RST38h | Right, that is what I have read, although there were only 3 or so (including major ones) at the East Coast | 16:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's not that bad. | 16:08 |
| * RST38h has been to AT&T Wireless office and yes, it is THAT bad =) | 16:09 | |
| RST38h | They don't care. They don't have to. They are the phone company. | 16:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/network.php?cid=280&cname=United States | 16:10 |
| SpeedEvil | s/ /%20/ | 16:11 |
| infobot | SpeedEvil meant: But%20I just collapsed into giggles. | 16:11 |
| SpeedEvil | That's an interesting fail. | 16:11 |
| RST38h | OMG Verizon running GSM network??? | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~GSM_in_USA is http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/network.php?cid=280&cname=United | 16:14 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer | 16:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: DUH, indeed | 16:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I guess ibot isn't using a per-cahn array of "last said" for each user | 16:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the memory footprint is just large enough right now, even without per-channel*per-user history and with some timeout on s/// as well (though I guess the timeout doesn't purge the history) | 16:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meanwhile, what's THAT: http://cordiatab.com | 16:22 |
| RST38h | That is smoku | 16:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: not that bad? please elaborate | 16:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: do you mean it's not that bad that there are so many small local GSM carriers, because <some way to cope with it>. Or do you suggest this proposition is basically incorrect? | 16:27 |
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| ZogG | Venemo hey | 16:34 |
| ZogG | long time no see | 16:35 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, I'm suggesting the choice selection for most areas isn't any more limited than the ISP selection would be | 16:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | and that most US consumers don't actually care whether it's GSM or not. | 16:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | As their get their phones from their carriers | 16:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/their/they/ | 16:44 |
| infobot | GeneralAntilles meant: As they get their phones from their carriers | 16:44 |
| RST38h | The service is atrocious though | 16:44 |
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| GeneralAntilles | That's incredibly area dependent. | 16:45 |
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| _trine | ShadowJK, they had some great routers with atheros chipsets now they have built the new design with crappy broadcom | 16:47 |
| RST38h | GAN: I mean the customer service, not the signal quality (which also seems to be lacking with everyone but Verizon) | 16:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | Also seems to be area dependent. | 16:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | But, yes, government-supported monopolies behaving like monopolies is a Bad Thing. | 16:49 |
| xnt14 | lcuk's death still makes me feel numb inside, even today. | 16:53 |
| xnt14 | :( | 16:53 |
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| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer, do you mind putting the topic back | 16:58 |
| crashanddie | shrink the current link | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok | 16:58 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog || R.I.P lcuk http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2011-September/004501.html" | 16:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | going to shrink later | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | we already had larger topic poems | 17:00 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/windows_phone_disappoints/ <-- hehe | 17:01 |
| chem|st | ruskie: I wonder why... the biggest phone manufacturer ever bids on that horse (me thinks it is a gambling-decease in .fi) | 17:02 |
| ruskie | disease ;) | 17:03 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/search_companies_and_isps_may_be_asked_by_gov_to_tackle_copyright_infringement/ <-- omg... "Online file-sharing is a 'direct assault on freedoms'" | 17:03 |
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| RST38h | Nice | 17:03 |
| crashanddie | ruskie, what out mate, you're starting to sound a lot like pupnik there ;) | 17:04 |
| crashanddie | next thing we know, you're going to start raving about al qaeda and bush. | 17:04 |
| RST38h | crash: To be honest, this particular headline made me cringe too, this morning | 17:04 |
| crashanddie | I know | 17:04 |
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| ruskie | crashanddie, lol | 17:07 |
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| harbaum | autobuilder is out of memory? | 17:33 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/paypals_big_plan/ <-- hmm | 17:35 |
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| RST38h | BTW, where is pupnik? Is he ok? | 17:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haven't heard from him in what feels like months. | 17:36 |
| RST38h | these recent news suddenly made me wonder where everybody else is | 17:37 |
| RST38h | qwerty12 included | 17:37 |
| Sicelo | ~seen pupnik | 17:37 |
| infobot | pupnik <~pupnik@p54B2A321.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 110d 5h 5m 56s ago, saying: 'o/'. | 17:37 |
| RST38h | o/ | 17:37 |
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| X-Fade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNUgFYRrDGM | 17:41 |
| X-Fade | Nice video by Gary. | 17:41 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: well, you know qwerty12's goodbye "love letter" | 17:44 |
| javispedro | RST38h: and pupnik's last day here he was rather ... himself. but 100x times worse. | 17:44 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: Yeah, I remember this one, as well as discussion (at a cafe in AMS) about how this demo can be extended to multiple N900s placed on a desktop | 17:44 |
| rm_work | i have still been worried about jott, finally called his phone a month or so ago and got a german automated message... left a message on it... his site is stale/dead now... | 17:45 |
| RST38h | javispedro: I actually liked the letter =) | 17:45 |
| RST38h | javispedro: He left in style! | 17:45 |
| rm_work | qwerty left a goodbye letter when he left? | 17:45 |
| rm_work | i missed that | 17:45 |
| ShadowJK | iirc it was "fuck you" | 17:45 |
| ShadowJK | in 1000 words | 17:46 |
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| rm_work | anyone have a link to that? | 17:49 |
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| penguinbait | qwerty :) | 17:52 |
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| GeneralAntilles | rm_work, it was very sweet. | 17:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa got a shoutout | 17:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | as did crashanddie. | 17:54 |
| javispedro | it's still on the wiki =) | 17:54 |
| crashanddie | In all fairness, I got back in touch with qwerty afterwards, and he did apologise for what he said. | 17:56 |
| penguinbait | I used to love internettablettalk.com | 17:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | crashanddie, yeah, I wasn't all that excited by the diatribe. | 17:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | penguinbait, we all did. | 17:57 |
| rm_work | yeah :/ | 17:58 |
| rm_work | and then it became... TMO. T_T | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Then it got filled with the sorts of people who buy MetaWatches and then ask why they can't pair them with their "iPhone 4"s. | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | rm_work, its death had very little to do with that | 17:58 |
| crashanddie | oh, there we go. | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | and everything to do with rising platform popularity. | 17:58 |
| crashanddie | and not sheltering the devs from the community. | 17:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Actually, let me revise that s/people who buy MetaWatches/people who PREORDER MetaWatches/ | 17:59 |
| javispedro | (someone will now be forcibly obligated to put something about elitism, etc.) | 17:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, you smug bastard. | 17:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, how's't anyway? | 17:59 |
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| * javispedro glances at the watch... oh, 5pm =) | 17:59 | |
| javispedro | well, it's still missing a few minutes to 4-hour change as it said on the online instruction booklet | 18:00 |
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| javispedro | *charge | 18:00 |
| javispedro | the band looks slightly cheaper than what I thought | 18:00 |
| javispedro | fortunately, it seems easy to replace | 18:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's too bad. | 18:01 |
| javispedro | and what they say about the display is true: there's a mirror behind the LCD -- so "white" pixels are not actually white but totally reflective | 18:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Weird choice | 18:02 |
| javispedro | therefore you can get into a very low contrast situation | 18:02 |
| rm_work | hrm | 18:02 |
| javispedro | but imo, still readable | 18:02 |
| * rm_work doesn't even know what a metawatch is | 18:02 | |
| javispedro | need to check how it looks under sunlight | 18:03 |
| javispedro | also, left buttons are a bit hard to press; on the other side, right ones are quite easy. | 18:04 |
| javispedro | I think this is clearly intentional | 18:04 |
| javispedro | but you probably need to know if you are lefty | 18:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | rm_work, http://metawtach.org | 18:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Now owned by a former Nokia exec and some Fossil people. | 18:04 |
| javispedro | http://metawatch.org/ | 18:05 |
| rm_work | that looks... neat? | 18:05 |
| javispedro | rm_work: wait until I put my demo online of running QML on the watch =) | 18:06 |
| rm_work | lol | 18:06 |
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| javispedro | (it actually runs on the phone, controlling watch display via BT) | 18:06 |
| javispedro | still not done the BT part =) but QML part (calculating damaged area, etc.) is done | 18:06 |
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| rm_work | so if weather.com says it is forecasted to be rainy today, you can have your watch just display a huge picture of an umbrella so you can remember before you walk out the door? :P | 18:07 |
| javispedro | it can display the huge umbrella while vibrating | 18:08 |
| rm_work | lol | 18:08 |
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| rm_work | does it have a speaker? | 18:08 |
| rm_work | or just a beeper | 18:08 |
| javispedro | neither | 18:08 |
| rm_work | lolwut | 18:08 |
| BCMM | javispedro: the idea of an internet-connected watch amuses me | 18:08 |
| javispedro | a sad omission imho, I would've enjoyed a beeper. | 18:08 |
| javispedro | it does have an accelerometer. | 18:08 |
| javispedro | but I fail to see an use for it. | 18:08 |
| rm_work | so it cannot be used as a stopwatch. k. | 18:08 |
| BCMM | partly because it would make it fairly easily possible to have dramatic things happen when you press the button on a watch | 18:09 |
| rm_work | BCMM: an internet connected watch is what i've wanted for the past 12+ years | 18:09 |
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| BCMM | like... explosions, i suppose | 18:09 |
| javispedro | well, my plan is to allow for QtQuick plugins to be written for the watch | 18:09 |
| rm_work | lol yes | 18:09 |
| javispedro | I am calling them Watchlets =) | 18:09 |
| BCMM | or at least a loud explosion-like sound from a nearby stereo | 18:09 |
| BCMM | that would actually be a fairly entertaining prank | 18:09 |
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| rm_work | come home to see FBI van parked in front of house -> press button on watch -> computer at home triggers a mini-EMP in your house | 18:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, pedometer? | 18:10 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: oh, good point. | 18:10 |
| rm_work | GeneralAntilles: so you can detect pedophiles? | 18:10 |
| javispedro | http://pastebin.com/aLRzqnN0 <-- a qml "watchlet" sample | 18:10 |
| javispedro | (note: raw source code) | 18:10 |
| BCMM | americans can't spell greek... | 18:10 |
| * rm_work always thinks of "pedometer" as a pedophile detecting device | 18:10 | |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, did you see the Python lib for N900? | 18:11 |
| javispedro | yeah | 18:11 |
| javispedro | I am missing exactly the BT part so I will take a look. | 18:11 |
| BCMM | My non-IRC-using friend has an N900 that lost its USB port in the classic fashion. Will Nokia Care be able to tell that he took it to pieces to inspect the damage? | 18:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | <_< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vp30JdsUjM | 18:13 |
| BCMM | is there some tamper-evident thing somewhere? | 18:13 |
| ShadowJK | first question is obviously: why the fuck did he take it apart if he still has warranty? | 18:13 |
| harbaum | javispedro: Do you actually have one of these? | 18:14 |
| BCMM | ShadowJK: i only just told him he still has warranty. also, he's an engineering student; i think they like taking this apart | 18:14 |
| javispedro | harbaum: charging it now | 18:14 |
| javispedro | (for the first time) | 18:14 |
| BCMM | also, what are nokia care UK doing at the moment with broken N900s? still offering to replace with the full-retail-kit version of some other handset? | 18:14 |
| harbaum | Where do you got it from? Are they being sold? | 18:14 |
| javispedro | harbaum: seemingly a batch of the digital one went through, and for some reason I got one despite having preordered it just a week ago | 18:15 |
| rm_work | BCMM: if he's an engineering student, just have him solder a usb plug back on it T_T | 18:15 |
| harbaum | Ohm they have a forum for me: Hardware Interface Projects 0 posts, 0 topics | 18:15 |
| harbaum | For those who immediately void the warranty on purpose. | 18:15 |
| rm_work | it is easily possible if you know what you're doing | 18:15 |
| javispedro | to GeneralAntilles' disgust =) | 18:15 |
| rm_work | or have him ask his professor to do it | 18:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | harbaum, it's clearly because he bribed somebody in TI's shipping department. | 18:15 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: proba | 18:16 |
| javispedro | probably the lady who fixed my.Ti account =) | 18:16 |
| BCMM | rm_work: he hasn't done it yet because he wasn't sure he could get the soldering iron at the right angle | 18:16 |
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| BCMM | rm_work: i told him i was sure other people had soldered them, but at this point he'd rather not screw thing up warrenty-wise | 18:16 |
| BCMM | if he hasn't already | 18:16 |
| BCMM | now, i would imagine that they don't even open it if the port has fallen off, but if they do, can they tell it's been previously opened? | 18:17 |
| harbaum | javispedro: Did you get the digital or analog one? | 18:17 |
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| ShadowJK | Aren't there some loctited screws in there that would be mysteriously loose? | 18:17 |
| javispedro | harbaum: digital | 18:17 |
| javispedro | so, let's try to get this qtmobility bluetooth thing to work before I curse the entire thing and go raw sockets. | 18:18 |
| BCMM | ShadowJK: is that the blue screws? | 18:19 |
| ShadowJK | yeah | 18:19 |
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| BCMM | ShadowJK: thanks | 18:39 |
| ShadowJK | nobody knows of any tamper detection anyways | 18:40 |
| ShadowJK | iirc neither that or moisture detector is mentioned in service manuals | 18:41 |
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| * javispedro lols | 19:03 | |
| javispedro | so, trying auto pairing crashes the watch | 19:03 |
| javispedro | to be fair, they do say "SSP pairing mode" is "beta" | 19:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Nice | 19:10 |
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| user__ | when nitdroid n13 release ? | 19:21 |
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| RST38h | "I want to make a product. I have the prototype and motivation and am trying to learn how to do business." - lcuk@twitter, 5 Sep 2011 | 19:51 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, the watch crashes/can crash? | 20:00 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: well, it's a computer... | 20:00 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, so's my car | 20:00 |
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| javispedro | <insert joke about crashing cars here> | 20:01 |
| MohammadAG | oh wait, that says check oil and turns off by itself sometimes | 20:01 |
| javispedro | either way, it's clearly a prototype | 20:01 |
| javispedro | they basically tell you to go and find your own way to flash the muC. | 20:01 |
| javispedro | *uC | 20:01 |
| ShadowJK | You check oil, oil is fine, and it still says check oil, you tell it to go fuck itself, and it turns itself off? | 20:01 |
| MohammadAG | probably cause it wipes the floor with oil overnight | 20:01 |
| MohammadAG | ShadowJK, so i'm driving down a hill the other day | 20:02 |
| MohammadAG | stressed it a bit | 20:02 |
| MohammadAG | and it turned off | 20:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, not shipping 'til mid October | 20:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm going to go die now. | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | brake didn't work anymore, steering locked, it's on drive (yes, it's automatic) and oh... yeah, it's on a steep hill | 20:03 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: that's what TI told you? O.o | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | ebrake helped, though some part inside me cringed | 20:03 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: handbrake then? | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, isn't that called an ebrake nowadays? | 20:04 |
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| RST38h | What kind of death machine is that? | 20:04 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: I am old fashioned | 20:04 |
| MohammadAG | VW Golf | 20:04 |
| RST38h | Urgh | 20:04 |
| MohammadAG | Well, I'd get a BMW if I had the money | 20:04 |
| ShadowJK | My car's steering and brakes continue to function even if engine is off. Granted, I only get one or two power-assisted braking and after that it's unassisted :-) | 20:04 |
| RST38h | BMWs also get this thing | 20:05 |
| RST38h | Not as murderous, but still | 20:05 |
| ShadowJK | and if I put it in gear and spin up the engine with the clutch I get powersteering back too :-) | 20:05 |
| MohammadAG | but i'm fine with this, except I desperately need an AUX plug in it | 20:05 |
| ShadowJK | (I have a habbit of coasting through towns with engine off) | 20:05 |
| ShadowJK | in the middle of hte night | 20:05 |
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| RST38h | Wearing a mask and a cape? | 20:06 |
| MohammadAG | was 4 AM the other day with no one in sight, had it going at 190kmph | 20:06 |
| MohammadAG | that was fun | 20:06 |
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| MohammadAG | anyone know those tape to 3.5mm adapters? | 20:06 |
| RST38h | yes | 20:07 |
| RST38h | You may be better off buying a $100 car radio/cd with an aux | 20:08 |
| RST38h | A lot of them have USB and/or SD card sockets nowadays,too | 20:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | ^ | 20:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | The tape adaptors are really atrocious. | 20:09 |
| RST38h | well, they do work, just not very well | 20:09 |
| MohammadAG | why didn't some smartass make them for CDs? | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | umm question | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | does every app on Harmattan have an instace of the status menu? | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | +n somewhere in there | 20:10 |
| ShadowJK | since when do vw golf have a check oil light | 20:10 |
| RST38h | it does not? | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, don't have any tape in it | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | err, forever? | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | it has an airbag light too, wonder what means | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | 20:10 RST38h: You may be better off buying a $100 car radio/cd with an aux | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | i'd do that if my parents didn't mind | 20:11 |
| RST38h | means your airbag controller hasbeen borked | 20:11 |
| RST38h | so,pray it does notlight up | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | nothing to worry about then | 20:11 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: WOuldn't they like a new stereo? | 20:12 |
| ShadowJK | no, because new stereos are hard to use | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lol | 20:14 |
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| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, did you at least get some unboxing pictures? | 20:16 |
| Estel_ | hello there | 20:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, I mean, you gotta be the first person to take unboxing pictures of a MetaWatch with an N950. | 20:17 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, it's always lit | 20:17 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, they listen to CDs, those are so last decade | 20:17 |
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| MohammadAG | anyone used the N950's video cam? | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | it's awesome | 20:18 |
| RST38h | if your airbag light is always lit, this usually means that either the airbag or its controller are broken | 20:18 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: MTF apps at least get the statusbar "screenshot" via a shared pixmap then proceed to render it wherever they feel to | 20:18 |
| RST38h | At least in Hondas and Toyotas | 20:18 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: those cheap stereos usually include CD | 20:18 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: hah, I didn't =) | 20:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Loser. | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, point is, they don't mind the stereo in it | 20:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | You don't even know what you've got. | 20:19 |
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| * javispedro giggles | 20:20 | |
| javispedro | oh, look at the time. | 20:20 |
| javispedro | I should be working =) | 20:20 |
| MohammadAG | so i need a reason to get a new one | 20:20 |
| MohammadAG | oh and new speakers, these suck | 20:21 |
| MohammadAG | what happens when it crashes? | 20:21 |
| MohammadAG | You sir, have fucked me up | 20:21 |
| MohammadAG | or something like that? | 20:21 |
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| javispedro | well, when a car crashes, airbags deploy. usually. | 20:21 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, qml apps use the same mech as mtf | 20:21 |
| MohammadAG | Qt apps are different | 20:22 |
| MohammadAG | but cool, it's just a shared pixmap | 20:22 |
| MohammadAG | thought it was a status area for every app | 20:22 |
| javispedro | the procedure to "fetch" it is rather complex though | 20:22 |
| javispedro | seemingly the root window has a property which is another window which has the pixmap as property | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: (broken) ...or the right seat airbag is on babyseat mode | 20:22 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, doubt it's that | 20:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | given your locale I also doubt it | 20:23 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, so it's handled by the compositor? | 20:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably when you open the controller module, you'll find the loose gears of an old wrist watch and nothing else inside | 20:24 |
| MohammadAG | umm, is replacing car stereos easy? | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you got arms with 7 joints | 20:25 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: I think it's both systemui and compositor -- systemui owns the second window, compositor owns the root one | 20:25 |
| MohammadAG | technically, my fingers have 15 joins, my writst has one, my upper arm has another one, and my shoulder has the final joint | 20:27 |
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| MohammadAG | so yeah i have 7+ joints :p | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: what the hell are you talking bout? MW? | 20:28 |
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| javispedro | no, the harmattan statusbar | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | MEH | 20:28 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG started! I promised! | 20:28 |
| javispedro | *promise | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | I love how MW has just a pixmap that can have a second window for system info (read time, date) superimposed | 20:30 |
| javispedro | quite cheaply done | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | And I'll be damned if a mediaplayer widget displayed on that MW and controlled by at least 4 of the 6 buttons isn't the coolest thing since sliced bread | 20:31 |
| javispedro | quite cheaply done too. | 20:31 |
| javispedro | well, is it known how to control harm's media player? | 20:32 |
| javispedro | (fremantle I know) | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | fsck HARM | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | build it on fremantle, when it works bother to port | 20:32 |
| javispedro | actually I'm using qt | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | if that aegis coffin hasn't flopped completely until then | 20:33 |
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| * javispedro is not so sure about keeping qtgui loaded always as a daemon on fremantle. OTOH, half of the applications already do that on harm.. | 20:35 | |
| RST38h | yeah | 20:36 |
| RST38h | but harmattan is working in a much larger memory pool | 20:36 |
| RST38h | + it swaps some to gzipped ram | 20:37 |
| * DocScrutinizer writes an autokick autoresponder on .*[Hh]armattan.* | 20:38 | |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/no_plug_ins_on_windows_eight_browser/ | 20:38 |
| RST38h | Hey, hey, don't get excited =) | 20:38 |
| javispedro | harmattanized the dark side of the force is | 20:39 |
| RST38h | ruskie:intended userbase won't need any | 20:39 |
| ruskie | hehe | 20:39 |
| javispedro | RST38h: see how they're being partially serious with their new JS crap | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually some particular person made me curse the system architects for no reason, by his proposition that batery savings mode was the method of choice for reducing battery wear of terribly poor written dta traffic hogging apps | 20:41 |
| javispedro | Ballmer has probably read about all those CEOs crapping on their own companies, Elop, etc. and decided to follow | 20:41 |
| * RST38h can guess who it was | 20:41 | |
| RST38h | javispedro: Nah, I doubt anyone will miss plugins | 20:41 |
| javispedro | what? | 20:41 |
| RST38h | javispedro: The last one to go was Flash, and that was mainly for Youtube | 20:42 |
| javispedro | you're forgetting minigames | 20:42 |
| ruskie | I already don't use any plugins | 20:42 |
| RST38h | javispedro: You can now do most of these in HTML5 | 20:42 |
| javispedro | when I enter a lab room right after dinner virtually every other computer has a flash games website opened =P | 20:42 |
| javispedro | *lunch | 20:42 |
| RST38h | javispedro: And if you are going to tell me they will need a rewrite, scroll back to what I said about attention span a couple of hours ago | 20:42 |
| RST38h | BTW, Ballmer has said something more interesting today | 20:43 |
| javispedro | but but but, the facebook farm thing! | 20:43 |
| RST38h | Facebook is full of cattle as it is, does not need games. | 20:43 |
| javispedro | or is that passé already? | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | fsck flash, fsck JS, back to the basics and shoot all web-designers | 20:43 |
| ruskie | http://html5games.com/ | 20:43 |
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| RST38h | Here: | 20:44 |
| RST38h | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/windows_phone_disappoints/ | 20:44 |
| javispedro | either way, they'll eventually allow activex crap for all their real clients | 20:44 |
| RST38h | and http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/ballmer-windows-phones-arent-selling-very-well-but-were-not/ | 20:44 |
| javispedro | and the only one damaged from this will be, obviously, theora/webm plugins. | 20:45 |
| RST38h | Google is already allowing activex in chromeOS | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: *YAWN* now thats new? | 20:45 |
| RST38h | calling it "native client" | 20:45 |
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| RST38h | Doc: It is the person saying it which is new | 20:45 |
| javispedro | nice picture | 20:45 |
| javispedro | the guy really fits there | 20:45 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: Actually, it looks like there won't be native development neither for WP nor for Win8 | 20:46 |
| RST38h | javispedro: Microsoft is pushing C# everywhere, so unless you are Google or Adobe, you will not be getting native SDK | 20:46 |
| javispedro | they're pushing JS for Win8 | 20:46 |
| javispedro | tbh, I can't wait and see how this entirely UI is done and compare the binaries with the Win7 Media Center executables, and check for matches =) | 20:47 |
| javispedro | *"entirely new UI" | 20:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | "I won't say I'm not saying I love where we are, but I'm very optimistic to where I think we can be," Ballmer said. WTF?! pardon my french | 20:48 |
| RST38h | javispedro: reports say that XAML will be preferred api for ui | 20:48 |
| RST38h | Doc: that is to throw journos off his tracks | 20:49 |
| javispedro | XAML is something like QML, but you need to attach a language to it | 20:49 |
| javispedro | a imperative one, I mean. | 20:49 |
| RST38h | Doc: An average journo will only parse "love" and "optimistic" from this statement | 20:49 |
| RST38h | javispedro: C# | 20:49 |
| * DocScrutinizer shots an evil forkbomb virus into Balmer's wetware | 20:49 | |
| javispedro | (or JS ;P ) | 20:50 |
| RST38h | or js, yes | 20:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~shoot Balmer | 20:51 |
| * infobot shoots Balmer in the foot with a quantum singularity weapon! | 20:51 | |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: US Postal Service Considers Closing Facilities to Save Money | 20:52 |
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| RevdKathy | Blimey. that's a headache of a statement from Ballmer. Is it lifted from "How to avoid saying anything for business execs"? | 20:52 |
| RST38h | No, it is his original work | 20:53 |
| RST38h | A classic Ballmer. | 20:53 |
| RevdKathy | oh silly me, yes. It's apple who lift other people's work and pass it off as their own. | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo cmd: shoot (.*?) | 20:54 |
| infobot | cmd: shoot (.*?) -- created by Utah_Dave <n=boucha@0-3pool128-51.nas28.salt-lake-city1.ut.us.da.qwest.net> at Tue Aug 23 01:50:03 2005 (2214 days); it has been requested 250 times, last by DocScrutinizer, 1m 2s ago. | 20:54 |
| RST38h | All successful people do. Nobody got successful by working all thetime. | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | remind me to buy Utah Dave a beer whenever we meet | 20:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~seen Utah_dave | 20:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ohoh | 20:55 |
| infobot | utah_dave is currently on #uphpu (2h 31m 56s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 27m 4s, last said: 'morning!'. | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh | 20:55 |
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| RST38h | not very talkative, is he? | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, like 90% of IRC users | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | he probably wrote enough when creating all those *awesome* factoids and cmds for ibot | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo cmd: lart (.*?) | 20:57 |
| infobot | cmd: lart (.*?) -- created by [George] <~Test@m171-mp1-cvx2a.bre.ntl.com> at Sat Jun 8 19:43:25 2002 (3385 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 20:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hah, found sth I forgot completely | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~lart-tmo-lemming | 21:02 |
| infobot | i heard lart-tmo-lemming is http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: ^^^ you'll love that :-) | 21:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: anticipating for true the hypothesis it's bme that makes diablo randomly reboot - how would I intercept that and rather rise a notifier or play an alarm? | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: maybe it's better addressed to you ^^^? | 21:21 |
| javispedro | bme dies | 21:22 |
| javispedro | and thus, sw watchdog reboot | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | so tweaking dsmetool -k bme should to the trick? | 21:22 |
| javispedro | feel free to try =) | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 21:22 |
| javispedro | at least my N810 by now reboots so often while charging it is nearly unusable.. | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | same here, well the random time range is from 3 times a day to once a month | 21:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I'm *pissed* about that | 21:24 |
| javispedro | it does it like every 5 minutes, decreasing as the battery gets charged. Once charged and unplugged, it never reboots | 21:25 |
| javispedro | well the official answer is to discard the battery | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | I did that, no change a fresh one | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | not really anyway | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | hard to tell with 5h..40d random period | 21:26 |
| ShadowJK | iirc I switched off some flags with flasher | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-o | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | R&D mode no sw-wd | 21:26 |
| bash` | the button on the right of my n900 doesn't unlock/lock the screen anymore :( | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe worth a try | 21:26 |
| ShadowJK | then I added a while true ; do chroot /mnt/initfs /bin/bme_rx-44 ; done | 21:27 |
| ShadowJK | to force charge | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash`: first question: is the switch nrken? | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | broken even | 21:27 |
| ShadowJK | alas, this made the battery very very hot, so I bought a new one instead | 21:27 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: hi, sorry what "nrken" is? | 21:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a typo ;-D | 21:28 |
| bash` | :D | 21:28 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: today isn't working anymore, yesterday it was | 21:28 |
| ShadowJK | on third battery in my N810 actually. Also need to get a third for my N800, but it's kinda hard to find now | 21:28 |
| bash` | I didn't play with it... | 21:28 |
| ShadowJK | nrken = mistyped broken | 21:28 |
| bash` | ShadowJK: never see that :P | 21:28 |
| ShadowJK | b and n are next to eachother, then he just missed o conpletely | 21:29 |
| bash` | yep, understand | 21:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-09-15 20:27:15] <DocScrutinizer> bash`: first question: is the switch nrken? [2011-09-15 20:27:20] <DocScrutinizer> broken even | 21:29 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: no, it isn't | 21:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, so what tells your syslog? | 21:30 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, as far as I can tell, the abort condition I encountered in diablo bme was something like if (Vbatt > 4500mV) panic(); | 21:30 |
| bash` | syslog? does the n900 has logs for this stuff? let me check | 21:30 |
| ShadowJK | 'dmesg': [57184.402221] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open | 21:31 |
| claw | i am getting following err : The following package has unmet dependencies : mp-fremantle-community-pr Depends: gstreamer0.10.plugins-bad-extra but is not going to be installed E: Broken Packages | 21:31 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: which file should I read? | 21:32 |
| ShadowJK | bash`, type dmesg in an x-terminal | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash`: | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sep 15 20:31:23 IroN900 kernel: [39968.307342] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sep 15 20:31:23 IroN900 systemui-tklock[3139]: Method call received from: :1.13, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_close | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sep 15 20:31:24 IroN900 browser[2128]: GLIB CRITICAL ** hildon-1 - hildon_window_get_is_topmost: assertion `HILDON_IS_WINDOW (self)' failed | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sep 15 20:31:24 IroN900 kernel: [39968.869567] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash`: tail /var/log/syslog | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | or simply dmesg | 21:33 |
| ShadowJK | syslog doesn't exist unless you've installed sysklogd etc from tools repo | 21:33 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: I was looking for /var/log/syslog but there is none | 21:33 |
| bash` | http://pastebin.com/NABa4VW8 | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | see ^^^ ShadowJK | 21:33 |
| bash` | yes I just read that | 21:34 |
| bash` | (installing anyway) | 21:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash there's exactly two lines in dmesg when you do dmesg immediately after you operated lockswitch: | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | [39968.307342] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | [39968.869567] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | you see I operated the lockswitch for ~0.5s | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | if your dmesg has no such lines in the last ~10 lines you get, then your switch (or SoC, or kernel) is broken | 21:36 |
| bash` | again, what's SoC? | 21:36 |
| bash` | :) | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | kernel break is unlikely unless you updated it | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~soc | 21:36 |
| infobot | from memory, soc is System On Chip - many embedded cpus include a variety of peripherals as well which makes them more than just a CPU. Send Out Cards - http://www.sendoutcards.com/ Summer of Code (a google project) U of U's School of Computing (http://www.cs.utah.edu/) | 21:36 |
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| claw | i am getting following err : The following package has unmet dependencies : mp-fremantle-community-pr Depends: gstreamer0.10.plugins-bad-extra but is not going to be installed E: Broken Packages | 21:37 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: no, I didn't update the kernel | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash`: I bet your switch is borked | 21:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or mce | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | depending on whether you got those lines in dmesg or not | 21:37 |
| javispedro | stupid documentation doesn't match the real thing | 21:38 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: I'm playing with the switch and reading dmesg but I don't have them | 21:38 |
| ShadowJK | switch broken, my guess. | 21:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: (abort >4500: PANIC) EEEEK | 21:39 |
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| bash` | ShadowJK: and I cannot fix it I guess... | 21:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: depends, either it is just mechanically entangled, or some of the plastic is broken off, or the switch itself is broken or loose | 21:40 |
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| ShadowJK | press powerbutton twice to lock :P | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can fix each of those, the amount of expertise needed is differing though | 21:41 |
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| bash` | ShadowJK: yep, but it's really annoying to unlock | 21:41 |
| ShadowJK | iirc it's a magnetic switch | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | nope | 21:41 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: so, I could open the N900 and see what's there? | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | you *could* - if you feel familiar with doing that sort of stuff | 21:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there are delicate ribbon cables and nasty connectors | 21:42 |
| bash` | great... | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | not Joe randomuser's cup of tea | 21:42 |
| bash` | n900 turned off, opening... | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | a "lot" of users actually disassembled their N900, some actually managed to reassemble it ;-) | 21:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: please read the L1_L2 service manual FIRST! | 21:44 |
| bash` | I'm familiar with laptop hardware, though I never disassembled a phone | 21:44 |
| jacekowski | bash`: sams stuff, just smaller | 21:44 |
| bash` | link somewhere? | 21:44 |
| jacekowski | same* | 21:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | the more you'll appreciate there's a "howto" for dismantling N900 | 21:44 |
| bash` | nice :D | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | link ... moment please | 21:45 |
| jacekowski | bash`: http://maemo.jacekowski.org/docs/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Service_Manual_Service_Level_1_2.pdf | 21:45 |
| bash` | thank you! | 21:45 |
| jacekowski | and http://maemo.jacekowski.org/docs/N900_RX-51_SM_L3_4.pdf | 21:45 |
| jacekowski | and | 21:45 |
| jacekowski | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/docs/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Schematics.pdf | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: you're an animal ;-D | 21:45 |
| bash` | :) | 21:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: just take particular care about the flat plastic connector and plug connecting upper (screen) and lower (kbd) half | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | bend or pull it once and it's broken | 21:48 |
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| bash` | DocScrutinizer: ok understand | 21:49 |
| bash` | say me good luck! | 21:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | the plug is SMT-soldered on the flex cable, and supported from back with a 3rd layer of PCB that seems to have *vias* - those _of course_ break when you slightly bend the whole contraption | 21:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I guess using a credit card to unplug the critter is a good idea | 21:51 |
| bash` | ok | 21:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: look there: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/IMG_1941.jpeg | 21:53 |
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| * ShadowJK 'd just cope without the button instead of risking entire N900 | 21:54 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, depends | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | odds are if you got a weal FPC then it will break eventually anyway | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | weak* | 21:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so if you got any kind of warranty yet, or are willing to get a new FPC | 21:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and it seems bash` knows his electronics stuff a bit | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | we warned him, he knows the risks | 21:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: anyway do a FULL backup prior to starting that adventure ;-) | 21:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and make sure you can log in via ssh over WLAN | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | right after unattended boot | 21:58 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: I already started, and....I cannot remove the two TORX+ right now :( | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | shit | 21:59 |
| bash` | I've to end my adventure for today | 21:59 |
| * bash` trying to connect the main flex connector will be funny... | 21:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | you bet it's a full 30min of cheerful joy | 22:00 |
| * DocScrutinizer wondered how in hell they do that at Nokia | 22:00 | |
| bash` | :) | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | nevertheless not unplugging it is no option, unplug *early* to protect the cable | 22:02 |
| bash` | ok, all done...at least the phone turn on | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | screen OK? | 22:04 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: i can disassemble n900 and assemble in 20 minutes | 22:04 |
| jacekowski | including that connector | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: yu're an animal, this doesn't count ;-D | 22:04 |
| bash` | jacekowski: leave me your address for the next time I do this at the next level :P | 22:04 |
| bash` | DocScrutinizer: just a minute, I didn't put the SIM | 22:05 |
| bash` | I just see it turn on.. | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: I can disassemble and reassemble a Freerunner in 120s, where others need 30min. That's only because I don't care at all to break anything, and I did it just so often | 22:06 |
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| bash` | DocScrutinizer: screen OK | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | good | 22:06 |
| bash` | ^^ | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: anyway a video would be awesome - or, like they say: video or it did't happen :-) | 22:08 |
| Venemo | video of what? | 22:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-09-15 21:04:31] <jacekowski> DocScrutinizer: i can disassemble n900 and assemble in 20 minutes | 22:08 |
| dzho | field stripping a Freerunner | 22:08 |
| Venemo | ah! | 22:08 |
| RST38h | will it still shoot after assembly though? | 22:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'm always eager to learn from the best | 22:09 |
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| bash` | google+ api are here!! anyone interested in writing a maemo front-end? :) | 22:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | burrp | 22:16 |
| bash` | is that a no? :) | 22:17 |
| Venemo | who the fuck cares about google+? | 22:17 |
| Venemo | they are too late in the social network business anyway. | 22:17 |
| bash` | Venemo: I hope they allows users to customize their profile pages url, and with google blogs integration you use google+ to blog | 22:18 |
| Venemo | and? | 22:19 |
| RST38h | "In fact, its not much of a stretch between what happens when a hick or ghetto kid gets a pro sports contract and what happened after 9/11." | 22:19 |
| RST38h | Social networks? Are they still around? | 22:20 |
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| bash` | Venemo: and I don't know. I don't like fb and I'm using g+ (mainly stuff for geeks but it's still in beta, isn't?) I like it | 22:21 |
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| Venemo | bash`, dunno, but I don't care. | 22:25 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: you did something with QtMobility and RFCOMM sockets, right? | 22:28 |
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| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, is there any context for that. | 22:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Because from here it looks like whoever wrote that wouldn't pass a Turing test. | 22:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Who's the best dynamic DNS provider these days? | 22:38 |
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| Corsac | yourself? | 22:38 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Corsac, do I look that motivated? | 22:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dynDNS still ok in my book | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | mainly depends on what your router supports ;-) | 22:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Everything. Tomato firmware | 22:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | DynDNS keeps deleting my accounts. | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | :shrug: go for the best URL then | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | dynDNS deletes accounts rather quickly on inactivity, yeah | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | the friggin DIR615 here only supports d-link's very own dynamic DNS service. I'm not excited | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | the also sport their own stratum 2 or sth NTP server | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | weird guys | 22:45 |
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| bash` | DocScrutinizer: I found a screwdriver for the TORXs, I removed them, found the switch and...is broken in 2 parts! :( | 22:53 |
| bash` | I don't have a glue for plastic right now, so I guess there is nothing I can do now | 22:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I don't think you can glue the switch. Get a new one and solder it on to the PCB | 22:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if the lever broke off there's a minimal chance to implant a hot steel needle into the thermoplast stub, but this rarely ever lasts for long | 23:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | as the knob usually can not break off the switch's lever as it can't slide down that much, I guess the switch was mechanically defect and blocked prior to the lever breaking off due to that, so glueing it on again won't help anything. Get a fresh one, do a little soldering fancy, profit | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bash`: ask next Nokia service center to sell such a switch to you | 23:04 |
| bash` | yes I'll | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | or find one that has same dimensions and contacts, on mouser or digikey | 23:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or, if you feel innovative, glue a mini magnet to the sliding knob and solder a micro reed contact in place of the switch - adjust position of reed tube so it closes when you slide down knob and magnet, and opens reliably when you release the knob (NB I dunno for sure if the know itself has a spring) | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | if the KNOB has a... | 23:10 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Well, at least the watch will probably end up on next month's credit card statement. | 23:30 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Gotta wonder why MetaWatch didn't open source everything out the gate. | 23:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Gonna have a lotta day-one frustration that wont be going anywhere useful now. | 23:57 |
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