IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2011-09-14

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Sazpaimonhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HA3Y2O/00:03
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Sazpaimonhttp://www.engadget.com/2011/09/13/andy-rubin-shows-off-medfield-based-android-phone-at-idf-2011-r/ welp, so much for meego00:08
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SpeedEvilmeh00:14
DocScrutinizerwhen estel thinks it doesn't help when others look into his project ("two other people also can't seem to find it") then I really don't understand why he's asking here at all.00:16
DocScrutinizer:-S00:16
DocScrutinizeractually he didn't ask anything00:17
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DocScrutinizerooh he did -> >><Estel_> hello there - could anyone experienced with autobuilder packaging help me?<<00:18
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DocScrutinizeranswer: probably not, as you're not sharing enough detail, and instead are requesting to ping you00:19
Estel_hey, before asking that I've asked few times today with a details :P00:20
Estel_then, I asked once like that to not spam here with my question, but, indeed, DocScrutinizer told me thats its better to ask with details again anyway00:21
Estel_DocScrutinizer, You've missunderstood me (checked logs)00:22
Estel_I would love to show file here, but there is nothing to show, cause I can't seem to find basic info about adding non-source code files to autobuilder (like graphic)00:23
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Estel_anyway, there is package in repository - Deskyapplet00:23
DocScrutinizerEstel_: place one precise question like "in this project ( http://maemo-Garage-URL ) I expected the icons provided via <insert link to method here> to show up in the *.deb. Ülease tell me what's wrong with the project as they don't shop up when I install the built project00:23
Estel_it install, but doesn't work properly due to missing files, which must be placed manually00:24
Estel_ok00:24
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DocScrutinizeror "please point me to a howto when I want to add a *.jpg for the background of my app to the project"00:25
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Estel_understood, will fix my question :)00:26
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DocScrutinizerEstel_: I'd guess wallpaper/theme/ringtone packages do not much more than just transporting and installing "binary" data (*.png, *.mp3)00:34
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DocScrutinizerlooking into the source of any app of such or similar type might give a clue how to add missing non-sourcecode files to a project00:35
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Estel_You're absolutely right. I'm just collecting enough info to ask again smarter way, I'm not even "main" person in this project.00:45
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Estel_DocScrutinizer, I've just helped original developer to go through autobuilder at all ;) so, anyway, thanks for pointing out my mistakes in question "building"00:46
Estel_Also, it seems dev screwed uploading to garage, or I'm too stupid, cause I can't seem to find sources in .garage page, only .deb.00:49
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Estel_I'll probably check that more thoroughly and ask again.00:50
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ThreeMwtf? Intel first Smartphone use Android? *facepalm*01:15
ruskierofl01:17
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ThreeMthis makes no sense01:19
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DocScrutinizerI've not seen much sense making in smartphone business at large lately01:21
ThreeMtrue01:22
ThreeMbut intel, come on... a few days before they deny the roumor that they will stop meego and now this bad news :(01:23
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PaliDocScrutinizer: can you help me with host mode and charging?01:47
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TiagoTiagohi02:01
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TiagoTiagodoes anyone have any idea why WizardMounter can mount folders on computer B, computer B can see folders shared by computer A (both running WinXP), but Wizard Mounter says "Connection Refused" when i try to mount a folder from computer A?02:02
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TiagoTiagoalready tried disabling firewall, nothing changed02:06
ThreeMsecurity config on windows02:06
TiagoTiagothose things there with group policies and stuff?02:07
ThreeMi think so02:07
ThreeMits not wizard mounters fault.02:08
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TiagoTiagoAny idea why it would be different between the two computers?02:12
ThreeMnope sorry02:12
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TiagoTiagoseems some people had "connection refused" issues at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44188 (WM's thread), but i haven't found anything there that helps me so far :/02:48
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TiagoTiagook, it does work if i mount it via command line, but not via Wizard Mounter02:55
TiagoTiagowhat's the deal?02:55
Ken-YoungDoes anyone know of a PDF viewer with a search feature which will run on the N900?02:56
zutesmogstrace is documented as being in an strace package, but apt-get is telling me Package strace is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:57
zutesmogThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:57
zutesmogis only available from another source02:57
zutesmogE: Package strace has no installation candidate02:57
zutesmogAny one know wher strace has ended up ?02:57
zutesmogmy camera app has just started crashing after 8months, and trying to work out what is going on.02:58
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nox-strace is in tools repo03:00
zutesmogahh, missed that bit, thanks03:00
nox-http://maemo.org/packages/view/strace/03:01
SpeedEvilzutesmog: is filesystem full?03:01
zutesmogSppedEvil, no, very empty ;-)03:01
TiagoTiagoThreeM: are you still around?03:02
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TiagoTiagooh well *sighs*03:07
TiagoTiagocya03:07
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Estel_ping Pali03:14
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PaliEstel_: pong03:20
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Estel_Hey Pali, You requested help with hostmode and charging, but Joerg seems to be away03:26
Estel_I've tested it a lot, maybe I can help You?03:26
PaliI have problem that sometime it works and sometimes not03:27
Estel_You're using Y-cable?03:27
Palino03:27
Estel_powered hub?03:27
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PaliI'd trying with power hub and without too03:28
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Paliand sometimes when I connect hub before bme is stopped it start charging...03:28
Paliit is normal?03:28
Estel_for charging-able hubs, yes03:29
Estel_but, ZYou've said "sometimes"03:29
Estel_so, it's not always the case?03:29
Paliyes03:29
Estel_You know, I got exact same problems, and tested it, so I hope I'm able to help ;)03:30
Palinow I connected usb hub, bme is still running03:30
Palibut charging does not start03:30
Estel_Normally, hubs *should* separate DC power from uplink03:30
Estel_but, many times, design is strange03:31
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Estel_My hub act exactly like that. Some time ago I used it for charging.03:31
Estel_But it was roulette.03:31
Estel_I've measured it with multimeter in many situations...03:31
Estel_And it seems that if left off-line for a while, initially, after plugging 5V it provide power to uplink USB03:32
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Estel_then, it stop, and on some connections do it, on other power is separated as it should03:32
Estel_also, even if power for uplink is present, it may dissapear sudden of nothing.03:33
Estel_I've come to conclusion that - ezcept for situation, when You modify HUB to *always* provide power to uplink...03:33
Estel_Y-cable is a must, 100% working solution.03:33
Estel_it's relatively easy to mod hub to bypass (flawed) securitylll03:34
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Estel_but, I think buying cheap Y-cable is better solution.03:34
Paliok, I will buy Y-cable03:34
Estel_Really, I got 0 issues with charging while hostmode, since I'm using that.03:35
Paliwith bug I have other problem03:35
Estel_?03:35
Palisometimes it work in high speed mode and sometimes not03:35
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Palinow I switched to full and lsusb show me it03:36
Estel_Yea, sometimes it detect "false" info about full-speed device, instead of high speed one, right?03:36
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Palii do not know if hub is high or full speed03:36
Palibut sometimes it works under high and sometimes in full03:37
Estel_if it works "sometimes" high apeed, it's high apeed.03:37
Paliand i do not know which mode i should use03:37
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Estel_Yea, I've reported this issue on HEN thread.03:37
Estel_You know, the funniest part is that, when You check dmesg03:38
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Estel_it appears that hostmode "think" about full speed device *before* You physically attach it03:38
Palikernel cannot detect proper mode?03:39
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Estel_I have no idea, it seems that it assume there is device, before actually there is one.03:39
Estel_and pop-up error, as soonas You choose high-speed03:39
Estel_so, it reject to process further03:39
Estel_of course if it's saame issue I was reporting.03:40
Estel_Maybe Your hub is just strange ;)03:40
Estel_but, I think Your symptoms may be same.03:40
Estel_I call it unoficially "generic hostmode error".03:40
Paliok, so this problem is normal03:41
Estel_another problem is that something deny to enter into booston mode, if switched on and off too many times in short period.03:41
Estel_Booston sxript proceed without problems03:41
Estel_but, dmesg doesnt indicate that tw4030_usb actually is in vboost state.03:42
Paliwhich booston script should I use? from h-e-n package or from http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/booston ?03:42
Estel_this way, without external powering, You can't enumerate device at all (errors, device not accepting address etc and must wait for a while.03:42
Estel_better one and actually working was posted by joerg, i think You're reffering to it.03:43
Paliyes03:43
Estel_initially, it contained typos, but joerg posted update.03:43
Estel_Yea, this one is ok.03:43
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Palii see that this script stopping and starting bme03:44
Estel_By the way, led pattern Vboost work for You?03:44
PaliYes03:44
PaliI have modified with led editor to constant blue03:44
Estel_yea, according to DocScrutinizer, this scipt makes boostoff obsolete03:44
Estel_damn, I also modified with led editor, and it totally doesn't work for m e03:45
Estel_DocScrutinizer also got it working, I have no idea why LED pattern is ignored in my case.03:45
Estel_Could You paste here Your pattern entry?03:45
Paliare you using this pattern http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1086924#post1086924 ?03:45
Paliif yes, you should change it from ...35;4;0;... to 35;5;0;03:47
Estel_yea...03:47
PaliI'm using this: PatternVboost=35;5;0;Rb;9d80403f7e007e000000;9d80000003:47
Estel_the one i posted03:48
Palisecond number should be 5 (active pattern always)03:48
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Estel_thanks, will test it, but why the heck it must be set to "always show pattern, even if LED disabled" = mode 5?!03:49
Estel_hah, I could never think about that, thanks.03:49
Paliwhen using new booston script, what is correct step to start host mode? (Should I stop bme manually or not?)03:50
Paliecho hostf > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode ; ./booston & ; echo F > /proc/driver/musb_hdrc03:51
Paliis this enought?03:51
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Estel_to be honest, I'm still using GUI for it, so if You've used method that worked before.03:52
Estel_it should work also now03:52
Paliok03:52
Estel_if booston new edition stop bme, I think You may ommit that. not tested, though.03:52
Estel_hey, I've changed pattern according to Your info03:53
Estel_and still nothing03:53
Estel_Do You remeber if mce.ini updates must be followed by reboot?03:53
Palicheck line with LEDPatterns=03:53
Paliyou should have value PatternVboost separated by ;03:54
Estel_(I've added pattern manually, but edited in LLED Pattern editor, it appear there fine)03:54
Paliand you must restart mce (stop mce && start mce)03:54
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Estel_You're right, I omitted adding it to LEDPatterns=03:56
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Estel_yea, that worked! Thanks a lot Pali04:06
Estel_by the way, it doesn't need to be mode 504:06
Paliok04:06
Estel_it was only a matter of missing value in LEDPatterns04:06
Paliyour pattern does not worked for me04:06
Palibut after change to 5, it stared working...04:07
Estel_0_o why? what symptoms?04:07
Estel_hm04:07
Estel_I started with 5, and out of curiosity, changed it to 3, restarted mce...04:07
Estel_it seems working fine04:07
Paliok04:08
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Estel_btw there are funny errors, when You start hostmode quickly after charging, before fuel gauge updates (5 second interval)04:08
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Estel_I got "battery overpowered, WFTF are You doing?!" seen that before inside code04:08
Estel_just because power gauge reported ~700 mA current, and booston doesn't care if it's charging or discharging04:09
Estel_I wonder, if it only fails during startup04:09
Palido you know if somebody is still working on hostmode (fixing these bugs)?04:09
Estel_I wonder, if it only fails during startup, or heavy charging can cause it too.04:10
Estel_Yea, DocScrutinizer is working on it.04:10
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Estel_Ho ever, MAG doesn't have time for rele+e (and GUI) right now04:10
Estel_You know, overprojected a little.04:11
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ellisetest04:18
ellisemay i know, whats channel of this04:19
Estel_ellise, hm?04:19
Estel_#maemo04:20
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* SpeedEvil guesses ellise is a chatbot.04:22
Estel_I preffer our bot04:23
Estel_~ping04:23
infobot~pong04:23
Estel_~hostmode04:23
infobotfrom memory, hostmode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232, or see ~hostmode-charging04:23
ellisechat bot ???04:24
Estel_~hostmode-charging04:24
infobot[hostmode-powered] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post92120304:24
Estel_we should get one as assistant on TMO04:24
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Estel_;)04:25
Estel_~MAG04:25
Estel_but, even he doesnt remember everything, heh04:25
Estel_~Nokia04:25
infobotnokia is, like, a cellphone company from Finland.04:25
Estel_I was hoping for more spicy explanation ;)04:26
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ultra420ls04:41
ultra420hello...04:41
ultra420helloooooo...04:41
ultra420anyboy here now..04:41
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ultra420it there is someone here..type something plz..04:42
ellisei'm here04:42
ultra420hii  dear ellise.whould you help me with my N900 please04:44
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ultra420it is crashed again and again...i do flash the N900 for several times and it still happen04:44
ultra420i type dmesg,and then i found that :     I/O error on mmcblk0p204:44
ultra420but i use badblocks to scan the memory,no bad blocks  exist.why...04:45
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elliseu can ask the others04:48
ellisesorry i must go04:49
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psycho_oreosoh ffs I fell into the trap of newbs resurrecting old threads09:50
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DocScrutinizerhah10:33
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SiceloDocScrutinizer: i'm looking at the possibility to make myself a cable for hostmode on the N900. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_USB_cable_for_powering_attached_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode_.28aka_Y-Cable.2911:26
DocScrutinizeryeah11:26
Sicelounfortunately the schematic isn't there anymore.. http://om.quatrox.org/om/11:27
DocScrutinizerI think it's not really worth the effort, as simple good cheap Y-cables are available everywhere, and all it needs in addition to this is a F-F-adapter11:27
ildarDocScrutinizer: can show a pic?11:29
Siceloi already have F-F, but Y-cables proving hard to find here :P11:29
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Sicelowill keep trying though11:29
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DocScrutinizerexternal HDD usually come with a Y-cable, when they are 3.5" type11:35
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DocScrutinizermost have a mini-B-USB plug, so you'll also need an adapter mini->micro11:35
crashanddieinteresting, reuters classifies news about political turmoil in China as "us-china-internet"11:37
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DocScrutinizerSicelo: modding a cheap USB hub is simple11:39
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chem|stDocScrutinizer crashanddie Sicelo moo11:47
crashanddiemoo11:48
chem|stltns11:48
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chem|st~cssu11:53
infobotsomebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU11:53
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chem|stdoes anyone know who hacks/maintains the camUI (lazy to ask... I know)11:55
archlnope...11:55
ildarwassa camui?11:56
ildarcan't find anything11:57
psycho_oreososso-camera's user interface :p11:57
ildarÁÒÒ11:58
ildarahhh11:58
ildarIC11:58
mfridhI'm having an issue with the headset and/or connector. it works when playing music but when making a phone call it doesn't switch over to using the headset11:59
mfridhanyone experienced something similar?11:59
mfridhd'oh... and it's Nokia N90011:59
ildarand firmware?11:59
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ildarI use headphones without any trouble12:00
mfridhI used to as well12:00
cehtehsame here12:00
mfridhbut no longer.12:00
cehtehwell normal headphone, not headset12:00
psycho_oreosit could be an issue with the audio connector port. I think there were some t.m.o. threads about it when N900 can sometimes detect the plugged in device is either a headset or just a headphone12:00
cehtehthat may make a difference (microphone on headset) maybe its misdetected12:00
chem|stmfridh: headset or earplugs?12:00
chem|stah ok as both work for me12:01
mfridhthe standard earplug headset which came with my N90012:01
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cehtehi have sometimes problems that it misdetects the thing plugged in when you plug it in too slowly12:01
mfridhit's a headset in terms of it having a mic12:01
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cehtehrarely it things that it wants to activate tvout then which gives some ugly noise12:01
mfridhcehteh: when playing music it's a bit wobbly... it can miss the plug-in if I plug too fast12:01
RST38hMoo, gentlemen. What is cooking today?12:02
chem|stcehteh: +1 but then just the mic is not working and it uses the earphones for output and the bulk-mic for input12:02
psycho_oreosmfridh, have you read this thread? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=5339912:02
chem|stRST38h: moo12:02
psycho_oreosRST38h, moo12:02
cehtehyes thats what i do very often, just headphones and device mic12:02
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mfridhpsycho_oreos: no, will do.12:02
chem|stmfridh: we got it that it is the retail nokia-headset12:02
psycho_oreosmfridh, that's one prime example, but I'm sure there's plenty others floating around12:03
psycho_oreoscurious to know, what are both of yours (mfridh && chem|st) hw revision?12:03
chem|stmfridh: one chance is dirty connectors, both onboard or plug itself12:03
chem|stpsycho_oreos: I think mine was the second12:04
mfridhI really have to ease it in to get it working12:04
psycho_oreoschem|st, I meant board revision :) i.e. cat /proc/cpuinfo12:04
mfridhmostly it fails to detect it (playing music)12:05
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chem|st312:05
chem|stso second shipped12:05
mfridhgah, my phone crashed12:05
mfridhbut I think I just glanced at "rev 3" from cpuinfpo12:05
chem|stah the 2101 you mean12:05
psycho_oreoschem|st, yes.. I was about to ignore you lol12:06
chem|stmfridh: he meant the board12:06
chem|stthe bottom number12:06
psycho_oreosyeah the last line.. bah12:06
mfridhi couldn't read that far before the phone crashed :) but i'm rebooting12:06
chem|stouch...12:06
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psycho_oreosyou could also see the info when you use flasher and when you enable R&D mode, at nolo screen12:06
psycho_oreosseems like more issues with lower revision numbers.. dunno if mine suffers the same fate12:07
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mfridhRevision 210412:07
chem|stpsycho_oreos: what are the different revisions? as 2101 is the one from spring 2009 afair12:07
chem|stpsycho_oreos: I mean the time frames12:07
psycho_oreoschem|st, I wouldn't have a clue :) I'm just personally surveying hw revision numbers from various hw faults12:08
chem|stpsycho_oreos: true12:08
psycho_oreosboth of my N900 here have hw revision 220412:08
mfridhdmesg said "headphone connected"12:09
mfridhstill, it doesn't output in there when i call!12:09
chem|stwould be nice to know which digit means what as there seriously were no 100 baord revisions12:09
mfridhseems like a soft error12:09
chem|stmfridh: do you see the icon?12:09
psycho_oreosalso I hardly use wired audio cable. Almost all of the time I use bluetooth headset12:09
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mfridhchem|st: no icon in the activity field12:11
psycho_oreoschem|st, heh only nokia has that info, I think someone asked about it on one t.m.o. thread (notably I think the thread was about the hw revision numbers that nokia had produced for N900). Unfortunately that question fell on deaf ears12:11
chem|stmfridh: then pulse is not switched to it12:11
psycho_oreosand flasher would say how many hw revisions for N900, definitely not 100 or 50 either.. maybe 15 I'd say at most12:12
mfridhchem|st: anything I can do about it?12:12
mfridhperhaps it's further down this maemo thread...12:12
chem|stI know that >2000 is boards for wholesale12:12
chem|stmfridh: disconnect reconnect12:13
chem|stmfridh: but a crashing device within xterm...12:13
psycho_oreosmaybe clean the audio port with q-tip that's been lightly dabbed in metholated spirits? *shrugs*12:13
chem|stmfridh: what is your firmware version?12:13
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mfridhthere's a headphone icon when I connect a standard pair of earplugs12:13
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chem|stmfridh: maybe the headset is borked12:14
chem|stand not your device12:14
chem|sthave you tried another headset12:14
psycho_oreoschem|st, you mean hw revision number above 2000? if so I think all N900 had hw version above 2000.. I also think that each `groups' of hw revision numbers are reserved for each NIT versions (e,g, rev 1101 maybe for N800).. hmm I should double-check this12:15
mfridhchem|st: the only headset I have around is an apple one, there's just alot of static when I connect it12:16
mfridhit detects connection in dmesg, but no icon12:16
psycho_oreosthe icon iinm is only shown if the detected audio device is actually a headset12:16
mfridhchem|st: Firmware Version 20.2010.36-212:17
Sicelo~iinm12:17
mfridhchem|st: it crashed while playing music via Media Player and doing cat /proc/cpuinfo in xterm12:18
mfridhregarding the crash earlier12:18
psycho_oreosSicelo, if I'm not mistaken12:19
Sicelothanks :)12:19
Sicelo~iirc12:19
infobotwell, iirc is "if I recall correctly"12:19
psycho_oreosmfridh, interesting12:19
psycho_oreosSicelo, nw12:19
mfridhpsycho_oreos: there's mention in that headphone thread you linked about a "white line" being cut inside the headphone outlet12:19
psycho_oreosinfobot, iinm is if I'm not mistaken12:20
infobotokay, psycho_oreos12:20
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psycho_oreos~iinm12:20
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, iinm is if I'm not mistaken12:20
Sicelo:)12:20
mfridh    ... Well for one thing, the white line was cut when I opened it up. I think that is the only issue, and the reason is because the white line was given absolutely no give. So any tug or pull on the cable will result in the whiteline dislodging from its connection point...12:20
mfridh"It was exactly same for me - white line was cut. After little soldering job my headset is working like new :-) "12:21
mfridhhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=748212&postcount=3612:21
mfridhwonder if that's it....12:21
mfridhif that could make a standard headphone work but a headset not work12:21
mfridhheadset (combined mic/headphone)12:21
* cehteh thinks the first thing he done when receiving the n900 was dumping the earplugs into the trashbin :P12:22
Sicelostatic when connecting earphones suggests a plug not fitting correctly. my original headset has static when i use it on laptop, but none on any others. of course, other earphones work fine on the laptop12:22
psycho_oreosmfridh, I can't vouch for the correct-ness of tht thread :) but you did say before that you tried plugging in ipod/iphone audio cable (headset?), if that made lots of static noise but did produce an icon in N900 then that might not be the issue12:22
psycho_oreosstatic could also mean poor connectivity :)12:23
Siceloyeah, actually meant it that way psycho_oreos :p12:24
mfridhpsycho_oreos: no it did NOT produce an icon either12:24
chem|stcehteh: I got some sennheiser...12:24
mfridhso conclusion right now: headset is detected in dmesg but there's no icon. headphone plug works perfect.12:24
psycho_oreosSicelo, lol my bad12:25
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psycho_oreosmfridh, ahh ok, weird12:25
chem|stmfridh: try the headset on your ipod12:27
psycho_oreoschem|st, my bad I counted all the hw revisions for N900 according to the info dumped from flasher when it came to reading stuff from the bin file. According to all those numbers, it adds up to 76 hw revisions.. realistically I do not know if those numbers are truly hw revision numbers as I have yet to hear owners with hw rev: 2610 (which appears to be the last set of number for hw rev I think).12:27
chem|stkeen suggestion, hw-rev is nothing but the production series12:28
chem|stsecond digit is the series, last is the change in solder12:29
psycho_oreosI'm guessing they have hw rev up to 2610 could be placeholder for N900 fixes going up to that number and I personally believe there would hardly be anyone would have anywhere near 221712:29
psycho_oreosso in the case of 2101, series is 1 and that solder part is also 1? :)12:30
chem|stor another dome sheet...12:30
psycho_oreos*shrugs*12:30
chem|stwas there 20xx?12:30
psycho_oreosthey could be the pre-production series.. i.e. the test devices12:31
chem|st18 or 19 was the preproduction devices on summit12:31
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psycho_oreoso.O so there were 18xx and 19xx for N900? interesting.. they don't have their hw rev entries for the latest fw (area code 203, probably NMEA release)12:32
chem|stcould be board revision 2 - series 2 for the first two digits12:32
psycho_oreosahh12:32
chem|stlikely to use 4 digits for series tracking12:33
chem|stmayor series minor series12:34
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chem|stspeculations all over the place again12:35
psycho_oreosyou can thank nokia for that ;)12:35
psycho_oreosleaving the community in a disarray of confusion, no further commitments to community, no detailed explanation of how their maemo series actually works, etc12:36
psycho_oreosfyi: http://pastebin.com/9nJ6n2FM12:36
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psycho_oreosall those `valid for:' entries I'm assuming they are hw rev.12:37
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chem|stthat would mean they had some serious changes12:38
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psycho_oreosN800 fw info: http://pastebin.com/XSYBizC3; N810 fw info: http://pastebin.com/ADVpGBse12:41
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psycho_oreos770 never had hw rev it seems.. and with the information from N800, N810 combined.. there's a gap in between 18xx,19xx hw rev which nokia used on N900 at the summit.. interesting12:43
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DocScrutinizermfridh: when your headset's pushbutton is stuck or broken, it will short the 3rd contact of plug to 4th/sleeve always, thus the headset "looks like" a headphone. Phonecalls aren't supposed to route to headphones I guess (though I never tried it)12:49
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chem|stDocScrutinizer: nope12:50
chem|stnormal headphones work for calls12:51
chem|stbut a shortcut might be one reason12:51
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chem|stit gets detected but sys not changed to headset-available12:51
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jpinxI recently acquired a cheap broken n900 and fixed it (new screen) all looks ok but it refuses to dial out *121# and similar numbers (my network balance query, credit top-up, etc use that style on number)  anyone got any clues how to fix that?12:54
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DocScrutinizerbroken wire on mic (3rd pin) would lead to unpleasant effects as well, it either detects the hs as AV cable or not at all12:54
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DocScrutinizerjpinx: reflash12:55
jpinxbummer :(12:55
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SpeedEvilerr - starhash?12:56
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chem|stSpeedEvil: don't... we like people to reflash^^12:57
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: USSD supposed to work - even without *# - on PR1.2+12:57
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SpeedEvilah12:58
chem|steven in earlier versions you could activate it via config edit12:58
SpeedEvilhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAoC818Mxy4&feature=feedu - on low power mono displays12:58
SpeedEvil(like the metawatch)12:58
jpinxalso -- what's the trick to stop auto-rotate of the phone application?12:59
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scoobertronit is an option in the phone app itself.12:59
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scoobertronto lock it to portrait12:59
jierohello, I get the basic theme.xml at /usr/share/themes/Default/matchbox/ , but cannot find a way to modify the left-corner button into a circle :D12:59
jpinxscoobertron: I want to lock to landscape ;)13:00
ildarjpinx: don't reflash13:01
ildarit wont help13:01
ildaruse13:01
scoobertronjpinx: interesting option, then I am not sure.  Assuming the turning control is a gconf setting, it may accept more values - i.e. portrait, landscape and off - but that is just speculation13:02
ildarapt-get install ussd-widget13:02
hiemanshuwell CSSU has an option to be able to turn it off13:02
DocScrutinizerildar: stop advising obsolete BS please13:03
* jpinx ssh's into the device to see if gconf does anything13:03
ildarDocScrutinizer: I say reflasing wont fix USSD13:03
DocScrutinizerI say stop caliming nonsense13:04
DocScrutinizerUSSD is officially fixed since PR1.3 latest, iirc even since PR1.213:04
DocScrutinizerso yes, reflashing to PR1.0 for sure won't fix USSD13:05
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ildarRX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin . USSD doesn't work13:05
ildaroops13:06
hiemanshuUSSD works for me13:06
ildarhey, it worked!13:06
ildarfirst time!13:06
ildar:)13:06
ildarsorry for the mess13:06
DocScrutinizerjpinx: I got 3 options in dialer menu "screen rotation": auto | portrait | landscape13:06
jpinxDocScrutinizer: is there not an up/date/grade rather than reflash?13:06
DocScrutinizernot really recommended13:07
jpinxI think this n900 must have an old system13:07
ildarjpinx: there are, but reflash is the best13:07
ildarmost stable etc.13:07
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scoobertronjpinx: ok, now I feel bad sending you in search of gconf keys - I havn't looked at that menu for so long I didn't realise it was in the menu13:08
DocScrutinizerit's been way too long since PR1.3 and you seem to have a pre-PR1.2 system. SSU Upgrade across several revisions doesn't usually work great13:08
jpinxok DocScrutinizer - I hear you13:09
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DocScrutinizerscoobertron: in PR1.2 (or pre-CSSU, dunno) it only has auto and portrait, no landscape option13:09
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DocScrutinizer(I don't think though it got tweaked in CSSU, so probably is a new feature as of PR1.3)13:16
DocScrutinizer( i can't check as I have no plain clean Pr1.3 system here)13:16
DocScrutinizerjpinx: you could check (and post here) your system's version as of settings->about_product13:17
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DocScrutinizerthe "Version: xxxxx" there13:18
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DocScrutinizerst like 5.2012.42-313:20
jpinxVersion: 3.2010.02-8.003    ;)13:20
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DocScrutinizer:nod:13:20
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jpinxlooks like this one has never been maintained -- just used as a phone till the guy broke the screen13:21
DocScrutinizerI'm not quite sure if that's PR1.1.1 or PR1.213:21
DocScrutinizerand it's locale version 00313:22
jpinxwhere's that -- I bought it in NZ13:22
DocScrutinizerI suggest you usually go for MR0 global version13:22
sulxhmm13:23
DocScrutinizer~flashing13:23
infoboti guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware13:23
* jpinx has to go out for a few hours - maybe try reflashing tonight13:24
sulxTrying to upgrade CSSU but it says that it depends on hildon-desktop 2.2.142-16 but *-13 is going to be installed...any idea how to trace the problem?13:24
zutesmogMy camera starting failing to start, and am trying to debug.  camera-ui.launch fails immediately with a sigsegv, strace on camera-ui gets as far as reading from a socket, nothing obvious there.13:24
zutesmogAny one got any suggestions13:24
jpinxzutesmog: did you install power-kernel?13:25
zutesmogI am running power kernel  but have been for 8 months or so without problems,13:25
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zutesmogI used the camera only a few days ago.13:26
jpinxzutesmog: the old bug was fixed, but I can not get the cam to work with power-kernel - I gave up ;)13:26
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zutesmogI have been using fcam and normal camera all the time, when I launch the normal camera, it comes the control display comes up, then disappears and a message "operation failed"13:27
zutesmognothing in dmesg13:27
zutesmogI am not sure I am launching camera from the command line correctly, if I could work out how to do that, I think strace would help a lot.13:28
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DocScrutinizerstrace -f13:34
DocScrutinizer(followw forks)13:34
zutesmogDocScrutinizer:  yep tried that on camera-ui13:34
DocScrutinizercamera-ui is preloaded on boot time afaik13:34
zutesmogno UI is shown and it's sitting reading on a domain socket13:35
DocScrutinizeryou need to ps|grep camera, then attach strace -f -p <pid-of-camera-ui>13:35
zutesmogif I watch porcess when I start the camera app, I see /usr/bin/camera-ui started13:35
zutesmogbut it doesn't hang around long enough ;-(13:36
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# ps ax|grep camer13:36
DocScrutinizer 1618 user     51416 S    /usr/bin/camera-ui13:36
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zutesmogoops your right13:36
DocScrutinizerno camera "started" on that device, the process gets started on boottime13:36
zutesmogwill try that13:36
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# strace -f -p `pidof camera-ui`13:38
DocScrutinizerProcess 1688 attached with 3 threads - interrupt to quit13:38
DocScrutinizer[pid  1688] restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted call ...> <unfinished ...>13:38
DocScrutinizer[pid  1649] restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted call ...> <unfinished ...>13:38
mfridhDocScrutinizer: aha, that's a valid theory I guess, about the pushbutton being stuck or broken. Thanks, will look into it.13:39
DocScrutinizeryw13:39
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DocScrutinizercome back reporting please13:39
chem|stsulx: apt-get or ham13:40
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Siceloto disturb a little: i am using h-e-n with the latest booston script. connecting an externally powered hub (not for charging) i always get VBUS OVERVOLTAGE - You just fried your N900. at least the port is still fine :) any ideas?13:43
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Siceloi am connecting the hub to N900 soon after i turn VBoost On13:48
DocScrutinizerSicelo: this indicates your externally powered hub feeds back a somewhat too high voltage to the N900 USB port13:52
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DocScrutinizerSicelo: I had to look up in bq24150 datasheet what exactla VBUS overvoltage means, I guess it gets triggered on >6V or sth13:53
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Siceloyay! thanks. good thing hub isn't mine.13:54
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DocScrutinizerSicelo: keep polling the booston file on cloud-7, I'm currently about to edit and upload new versions on a >once-per-day basis13:56
SpeedEvilVBUS overvoltage and undervoltage thresholds vary some per chip.13:58
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SpeedEvilIt's a pity in a way that undervoltage isn't reliably 3V or so, as you could run it from a dumb li-ion cell. But overvoltage indication does not mean it will have damaged the phone - there is a range of overvoltage which is 'safe'13:59
SpeedEvilIIRC ~6.5V will not damage the chip.13:59
SpeedEvilBut it may display overvoltage at 5.813:59
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SpeedEvilBut it's been a while since I looked at it, and of course, you may get lucky, and your chip is fine to 7.514:00
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: I think ABS MAX ratings are way higher than "recommended operating conditions" which VBUS-OV is based on14:01
SpeedEvilABS max is ~7 I think14:01
SpeedEvilBut it's been a while since I read it14:02
DocScrutinizerVBUS ABS MAX -0.3 .. 20 V14:04
DocScrutinizer(3) The bq24150/1 family can withstand up to 10.6 V continuously and 20 V for a maximum of 432 hours.14:04
DocScrutinizerABS MAX for other chips' pins connected to VBUS is way lower though14:05
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DocScrutinizerrecomended operating conditins: VBUS Supply voltage, VBUS  min:4  max:6  Volt14:06
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DocScrutinizer(1) The inherent switching noise voltage spikes should not exceed the absolute maximum rating on either the BOOST or SW pins. A tight layout minimizes switching noise.14:07
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DocScrutinizerVBUS(OVP) Overvoltage protection threshold for boost (VBUS pin) Threshold over VBUS to turn off converter during boost   min:5.8  nominal:6  max:6.2 V14:11
DocScrutinizerseems my 6V nominal for VBUS-OV Error was correct14:12
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SpeedEvilDocScrutinizer: Ah14:21
SpeedEvilOooh.14:21
* SpeedEvil wonders if he's seen a n900 which got overvoltaged lots14:21
SpeedEviland then the USB port ripped off14:22
SpeedEvilGAIA was not noticing vbus14:22
DocScrutinizerbtw: V(OVP-IN) Input | VBUS OVP threshold voltage | Threshold over VBUS to turn off converter during charge:  6.3 6.5 6.7 V14:22
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DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: iirc GAIA vbus detect pin ABS MAX was something insane like 7V or sth14:23
DocScrutinizeryep14:23
DocScrutinizerI'm not going to open the twl4030 user manual now, not enough free RAM ;-P14:24
SpeedEvil:)14:25
DocScrutinizerso I leave it up to you to check that friggin GAIA chip's ABS MAX for vbus detect pin14:25
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DocScrutinizer:nod: N4200:R8 GAIA twl4030 VBUS pin directly connected to VBUS bus, no series R, no tranzorbs, no dedicated clamp diodes... nuttin14:28
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zutesmogDocScrutinizer: been looking at strace output for camera-ui.  Every things looks to be ok (ie no obvious failed opens, etc...)  the last interesting thing it does, query ioctl on /dev/video0, ioctl(25, VIDIOC_QUERYCAP or VT_OPENQRY, 0x228210) = 0  then creates a domain socket /var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0  does some reading and writing to a couple of sockets then shuts the whole group down.14:30
DocScrutinizerhmmm14:31
zutesmogI do remember the last time I used the camera it was in video mode.14:31
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zutesmogany idea where it stores the state of the camera choice (video or still) ?  I might try resetting it to still and see if it behaves differently.14:32
zutesmogThough bless and fcam also both fail.14:32
zutesmogunless the ioctl on the /dev/video is for the viewfinder.14:33
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zutesmogok, something more useful. Tried mbarcode from the command line and got this14:38
zutesmogGST error: v4l2camsrc_calls.c(694): gst_v4l2camsrc_open (): /GstPipeline:test-camera/GstV4l2CamSrc:camera_src:14:38
zutesmogCapabilities: 0x014:38
zutesmogAborted14:38
zutesmogand going back to the strace the ioctl on /dev/video0 was ioctl(25, VIDIOC_QUERYCAP or VT_OPENQRY, 0x228210) = 014:40
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zutesmogneed to go hunting to see what valid ioctl call on /dev/video0 might return.  I hope this doesn't mean my camera is fried ;-(14:41
DocScrutinizerI suggest reinstalling the matching kernel drivers for camera14:43
MohammadAGanyone know how to monitor dbus or something to find out if a process crashes starts?14:43
MohammadAGI need to start recovery-terminal when hildon-desktop crashes14:43
MohammadAGbut not with script methods14:43
DocScrutinizercrashes starts?14:43
MohammadAGafter hildon-desktop crashes 3 times, recovery-terminal would start14:44
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: that's difficult, I mentioned that yesterday(?)14:44
zutesmogDocScrutinizer:  yeah I think I will, fcamera gives me FCam Error: VIDIOC_S_CTRL: Invalid argument14:44
zutesmogFCam Error: V4L2Sensor: Can't acquire a frame when not streaming14:44
MohammadAGyou did?14:44
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DocScrutinizeryes, I did14:44
DocScrutinizerI said sth like "moh: we might need to patch dsmetool for that"14:45
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: I'm sure dbus monitoring is pointless here14:46
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MohammadAGneed to check if this happens http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1037567&postcount=814:47
DocScrutinizerh-d won't tell from grave "I died"14:47
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DocScrutinizerI doubt dsmetool is telling anything except maybe "prepare for doom everybody, I'm going to reboot the system now"14:47
DocScrutinizerwhich obviously is a bit late ;-D14:47
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, 16.8 has your suggestion14:48
DocScrutinizer?14:48
MohammadAGdsmetool gives up rather than rebooting14:48
DocScrutinizeryeah, seen it14:48
DocScrutinizerbut cranking up a recue-shell in this case it non-trivial - alas14:49
DocScrutinizer:-S14:49
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DocScrutinizerbut cranking up a rescue-shell in this case is non-trivial - alas14:49
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: you could write a daemon that polls for h-d being alive every 5 seconds (maybe only when screen unlocked) and start the rescue-shell when h-d seems to be gone for 2 consecutive polls14:51
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DocScrutinizerI actually see no better way (except from augmenting dsmetool)14:51
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DocScrutinizeror... hmm... you could "poll" only on kbd-slider-opens14:52
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DocScrutinizeryou can tell about that even easily from dbus, then check if h-d is around and if it is just abort; else: crank up rescue-shell14:53
DocScrutinizers/even /event /14:53
infobotDocScrutinizer meant: you can tell about that event easily from dbus, then check if h-d is around and if it is just abort; else: crank up rescue-shell14:53
MohammadAGlet me check if dbus sends something about hildon-desktop14:54
MohammadAGif it starts 3 times consecutively, obviously it's not staying up14:54
DocScrutinizerwhat shall it send?14:54
MohammadAGNameOwnerChanged14:54
MohammadAGsee http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1037567&postcount=814:55
DocScrutinizerhmm, fair enough, start rescue-shell poll on third start of h-d, and keep polling for err 10s? finish with quit when h-d still there after 10s, else start rescue-shell14:56
MohammadAGsounds sane14:56
MohammadAGneeds a daemon14:56
MohammadAGanyone up for writing a C one? or should I use Qt?14:56
DocScrutinizermeh, dbus-scripting14:56
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DocScrutinizerI'd love the idea of just starting the rescue-shell when there's no h-d on slide-open the hwkbd14:58
DocScrutinizerWAY simpler, WAY cleaner14:58
DocScrutinizerI guess I could tweak my playswoosh dbus-script to do that, in like 15min14:59
DocScrutinizerpidof h-d || start-rescue-shell15:00
DocScrutinizerdone :-P15:00
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DocScrutinizerone additional line in my playswoosh15:00
DocScrutinizerso s/15min/30s/ ;-D15:02
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DocScrutinizerplus additional benefit: the rescue shell doesn't open inadvertedly, but rather gives me an opportunity to watch the plain desaster prior to covering everything under an xterm screen15:03
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DocScrutinizerhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=897443&postcount=1415:05
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zutesmogDocScrutinizer: went back to standard kernel (not reflashed) and still no go.  Full reflash in order I think15:11
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DocScrutinizeryes, a full reflash (combined, not eMMC/VANILLA) is a good thing to get clear situation regarding this. If you do a full backup of your rootfs+/opt via backupmenu prior to that, you can revert to current state anytime later15:16
DocScrutinizeryou might need to flash matching kernel via flasher though, if the rootfs+opt backup is working on a custom kernel15:17
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DocScrutinizerof course this is a PITA when there's no proper kernel image for flasher available, only HAM packages15:18
DocScrutinizerrobbiethe1st: how's about adding nandread and nandwrite to backup / restore kernel partition?15:19
DocScrutinizerooops  nanddump & nandwrite15:20
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robbiethe1stMaby later. Before that, when I actually get around to it, I need to add kernel warnings and copy-over-modules15:26
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dzhoso, my n900 boots, the web shortcuts on the desktop and status bar show up, but no widgets.  I can open applications from the application choose window, but eventually it reboots.  Sort of a slow boot looping.15:30
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_trinedoes anyone have freeswitch running on their N900?15:34
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MohammadAGhttp://www.engadget.com/2011/09/14/netgears-n900-dual-band-router-hits-900mbps-top-speed-pats-its/15:35
MohammadAGthat model is kinda annoying15:35
_trinenetgear are annoying period15:37
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DocScrutinizerrobbiethe1st: anyway http://paste.debian.net/129969/16:03
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robbiethe1stThat's the kernel?16:05
DocScrutinizerflash_erase /dev/mtd1 && nandwrite -m <dumped-file>16:05
DocScrutinizershould restore the partition (CAL here)16:05
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DocScrutinizerdang, CAL is size 60000, not 20000 :-o16:08
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MoonTigerhey guys :)  is git available for the N900?16:08
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DocScrutinizerrobbiethe1st: http://paste.debian.net/129970/16:09
fortytwoMoonTiger: Never tried it, but it's in the repos16:10
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MoonTigerreally? doh thnx :)16:10
fortytwoExtras-devel I think16:11
fortytwoSo maybe not stable16:11
MoonTigerahhhhhhhh16:11
DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.org/packages/    http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=git&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same16:12
MoonTigeri try to avoid that repo as it managed to bork my sip stack somehow before16:12
MoonTigerthnx DocScrutinizer16:12
DocScrutinizerextras-devel doesn't bork sip-stack, apt-get autoremove does though16:12
MoonTigerreally?16:13
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DocScrutinizerhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875&highlight=sip16:13
MoonTigerive done autoremove a few times and it strill works16:13
MoonTigerahhhhhhh i never uninstalled the voip thing tho16:14
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MoonTigerok cool for the info thnx16:14
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DocScrutinizeron some systems (probably those that did upgrade to PR1.3 via SSU) those "following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:", not so on systems that flashed to a fresh PR1.316:16
DocScrutinizeranyway, my recommendation to NEVER DO AUTOREMOVE seems sensible16:17
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MoonTigerDocScrutinizer, i did a fresh install of 1.3 so that would explain ... also if i ever do a autoremove i look at the stuff its proposing to remove and if anything looks dodge (ie, not something that was just installed) i dont do it16:18
DocScrutinizerfair enough16:19
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MoonTigergood advice tho for sure16:19
MoonTigergood to know to solution to losing sip too16:19
MoonTigerthnx for that16:19
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DocScrutinizerthere's a thanks button on TMO ;-)16:21
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MoonTigertmo?16:21
DocScrutinizer~tmo16:21
infoboti heard tmo is http://talk.maemo.org, or trolls, morons, oxes16:21
jaskaoxes?16:22
jaskatrolls, morons, oxymorons?:)16:22
DocScrutinizer~factinfo tmo16:22
infobottmo -- created by Mece <~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi> at Mon Jun 14 16:09:21 2010 (456 days); last modified at Wed Sep  8 12:31:25 2010 by mohammadag51; it has been requested 8 times, last by DocScrutinizer, 35s ago.16:22
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MoonTigerf**k! still get segfault running svn16:25
MoonTigerso fustrating16:25
MoonTigeri dnloaded the replacement debs but still no go16:26
MoonTigerany ideas?16:26
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mfridhI disassembled my N900 a bit to try and get to the headphone jack16:26
mfridhstarting to think it was a bad idea16:26
mecehuh I created that infobit? Who knew?16:27
meceMoonTiger, I think I managed to solve that one.. Hold on I believe it's on tmo.16:27
MoonTigermece thats where i dnloaded the replacemnt libs from16:28
MoonTigerstill no go tho16:28
MoonTiger:|16:28
* MoonTiger still thinks it's just so wrong to be updating a server and being asked if i want to install IE9 on it16:29
jaskayes :)16:30
meceMoonTiger, did you try this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=975462&postcount=5716:30
MoonTigerwill try right now16:31
MoonTigerthnx16:31
MoonTigeromfg!! you are a god! thank you :)16:33
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MoonTigeri guess i should pin them now right?16:33
jpinx_outmfridh: there's plenty of dissassemble how-to's on yourtube. I had no trouble16:39
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mfridhI got it back together again16:41
mfridhbut I couldn't for the life of me find any "white" wire16:42
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mfridhso maybe due to being a different hardware revision16:42
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DocScrutinizermfridh: OMG, the white wire is supposed to be found in the HEADSET16:43
mfridhthen I misunderstood :D16:44
mfridhI got alot of dust out of my N900 though16:44
DocScrutinizeranother WTF of the day: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts1016:44
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meceMoonTiger, glad it worked :)16:57
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Tuxprobeim doing a Hildon application written c++ however, setting the application menu doesnt work.. any ideas?17:04
Tuxprobeclass UI_AppMenu : public Hildon::AppMenu17:04
Tuxprobe{17:04
Tuxprobepublic:17:04
Tuxprobe  UI_AppMenu(Hildon::StackableWindow *pThis); .... };17:04
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TuxprobeHildon::Program::get_instance()->set_common_app_menu(new UI_AppMenu(this));17:06
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Tuxprobethis fails, it does show a menu icon on title bar but it doesnt react to clicks17:07
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zutesmogDocScrutinizer: I reflashed, and on first invocation of the camera, I got a message saying it couldn't run because something else was using Audio.  After that it keeps failing the same as it did before.17:10
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DocScrutinizersomething else is using *AUDIO* ???17:12
DocScrutinizerWTF?!17:12
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zutesmogyeah, thats what I thought17:12
zutesmogthats on the first boot, immediately after reflashing.  Once got the desktop I opened the camera shutter and thats the message17:13
DocScrutinizeroooh, you *might* have an unfortunate config setting for canera in your home17:13
zutesmogyeah, thats about the only thing I can think of17:14
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DocScrutinizerso maybe you need to nuke your settings in your homedir, aka flash VANILLA17:14
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DocScrutinizeror rm .*17:14
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DocScrutinizergo thru it and rule out candidates to move away17:15
DocScrutinizeror - geek way - strace camera-ui and maybe even v4l2 to find out what's the actual file any of those accesses in your user home17:16
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DocScrutinizerhome/user/.fcamera/settings ?17:18
zutesmogI didn't see anything odd in camera-ui, have looked at v4lt.  Maybe the ioctl returning 0 are an indication something was screwy fcamera said gst couldn't get frames.17:18
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DocScrutinizergstreamer-0.10 ?17:18
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zutesmogbugger, rm -r .fcamera/settings fixed it17:20
DocScrutinizerhmm those are the two I found in my home that I'd try to rename, to move away possible rogue config fles for camera-ui17:20
DocScrutinizerHAH17:20
GeneralAntilleshttp://www.engadget.com/2011/09/14/netgears-n900-dual-band-router-hits-900mbps-top-speed-pats-its/17:20
GeneralAntillesN900!17:20
zutesmogI should have done that up front.  I had a look in settings and there was nothing wierd looking.17:21
zutesmogoh well learnt something today ;-)17:21
* DocScrutinizer highfives zutesmog17:21
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zutesmog:-) thanks for your help17:22
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DocScrutinizerfcamera is known to do a number of very odd things once in a while17:22
DocScrutinizerit killed RGB LED driver as well, sometime in the past17:23
zutesmogoh well, we know now that .fcamera/settings is a good place to start first if the camera won't start.17:23
DocScrutinizerseems the fcamera devels don't bother much about compliance with "the maemo way"17:23
zutesmogwhich is a lot easier than changing kernels and reflashing.  Yeah.  I would have thought if it failed they could have at least logged something somewhere.  dmesg is always the first place I look17:24
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zutesmogoh well off to bed, whilst my N900 restores itself ;-)17:24
zutesmogcheers17:24
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* dzho sighs17:49
dzhohttp://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php says to always flash the eMMC first, maemo.org says to flash the rootfs first17:49
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dzhohttp://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 in particular18:06
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DocScrutinizerdzho: it's basically irrelevant what you flash first, as long as you don't boot in between, however if your system is thoroughly messed up you can not flash eMMC first, the recommendation the is to flash COMBINED VANILLA COMBINED-again18:07
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dzhoah18:07
dzhothat latter page does go into some additional detail too, now that I look at it more closely18:08
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DocScrutinizerI bet it does, it's all my edits I guess ;-P18:08
dzhoheh18:09
dzhothanks18:09
jpinxDocScrutinizer: does the battery get charged during the flashing process?18:10
DocScrutinizerdzho: brief rationale: flashing rootfs will trigger a copy of /opt to eMMC on next boot, so flashing eMMC after that ruins your system. OTOH you may flash rootfs any time, even without flashing eMMC. So usual reasonable sequence is eMMC first then rootfs18:10
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DocScrutinizerjpinx: definitely not18:11
* jpinx has a really poor battery that might not survvive long enough to flash rootfs18:11
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DocScrutinizerDO NOT FLAH then! first make sure to charge your battery to a reasonable level, by whatever means. This is no kidding18:12
* dzho sighs in relief18:13
dzhoall flashed and back to factory-like operation, it seems18:13
DocScrutinizerif the device doesn't stay on NOKIA+usb-icon screen when you plug in the charger/USB-cable and hold "U" during that, then your battery is TOO WEAK18:13
jpinxok -- just that the battery does not last long in normal use, so might not make it through a flash operation even if starting fully charged18:14
Shapeshifterwhy does it need a battery when it's plugged into a usb port?18:14
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DocScrutinizerif OTOH it stays in NOKIA+usb-icon then it's time to immediately start flashing of rootfs, it will only take 60s18:14
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DocScrutinizerShapeshifter: charger chip is inactive during flashing18:15
Shapeshifterthat is very lame18:15
DocScrutinizer(simplified picture)18:15
jpinxDocScrutinizer: that warning about the screen whileplugging in usb could do with being in the wiki ;)18:16
DocScrutinizerthought it is18:16
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* jpinx might have missed it18:16
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DocScrutinizera lot of the best parts are in the troubleshooting section at bottom of page18:17
ShapeshifterHas anyone gotten n900 pulseaudio to play over the network?18:17
DocScrutinizerhaha18:17
jpinxk18:17
* DocScrutinizer mumbles ~poettering , waves and heads out for a doener kebab18:17
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Tuxprobecould someone please take look at this code, is hildon c++ but fails in doing one simple thing, opening appmenu..18:25
Tuxprobeim going nuts!18:25
Tuxprobehttp://ideone.com/pFNUO18:25
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n900-dkHow do you install curl in the best way?18:46
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Tuxprobeapt-get install libcurl?18:47
Tuxprobeon tablet* fakeroot apt-get install libcurl318:48
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n900-dkI need the binary curl - I won't get that by libcurl, right?18:53
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Tuxprobethe libcurl3 on maemo have been minimized, maybe wget meets your needs?19:04
Tuxprobeotherwise check http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=504198#post50419819:05
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n900-dkYes, I found this thread too, but I need curl for preyproject19:05
ruskiehttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NetGear-N900/ <-- so no longer only nokia n900 ;)19:06
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dneary_RevdKathy, Hi there19:20
dneary_RevdKathy, Thanks for passing on the terrible news19:21
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dneary_RevdKathy, Do you know what happened? Was it an accident, illness, or something else?19:21
RevdKathyawful. Tracey dmed me on Twitter.19:21
RevdKathyI couldn't put it in an email - it looks like suicide19:22
crashanddieWhat the hell?19:22
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crashanddieRevdKathy, say it ain't so, what sick joke is this?19:23
dneary_That's tragic19:23
DocScrutinizerHEY! hi RevdKathy19:23
RevdKathyit's not - or if it is, the joke is on me. I got messaged by his wife asking me to let folks know19:23
RevdKathyso I assume it's real. Tracey must be gutted19:24
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DocScrutinizerdamn, what? That's terrible19:27
crashanddieI don't believe it.19:27
JaffaRevdKathy: On #meego, there's talk about organising flowers (if nothing else)19:27
RevdKathythat would be good. I'll ask Tracey in a day or two. I think she's probably still in shock right now.19:28
JaffaYeah19:28
crashanddiethis just isn't possible, i spoke to him last night19:29
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RevdKathywhat sort of state of mind was he in when you spoke?19:30
crashanddiehe was playing around with visual studio over vnc19:30
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crashanddiewhy the fuck can't I find his bloody number now19:31
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RevdKathythat must be awful - getting news like this now!19:31
lbtcrashanddie: may not be a good idea to call19:31
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lbtif it's true then it'll be upsetting19:32
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lbtif it's false then only we feel uncertain19:32
Stskeepsi had a message (unanswered due to me being out for dinner) from him at 16:52 yesterday asking if there has been more about the meego CE steering group (in fact, it had gotten really good feedback)..19:32
RevdKathyI have his number but suspect Tracey won't want calls.19:32
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crashanddieit's a fucking sick prank, and the person doing this needs to be slapped in the face19:33
DocScrutinizer~seen lcuk19:33
infobotlcuk <lcuk@Maemo/community/contributor/lcuk> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 1d 2h 32m 23s ago, saying: 'heh'.19:33
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crashanddiehe's connected under lcuk2 on #liqbase19:33
RevdKathywell if it is, I don't know whose prank it is. cos I have sms from his wife's twitter19:34
crashanddieyeah, and twitter is the utopia of security, eh?19:34
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RST38hWhat happened with LCUK????19:34
crashanddieapparently he passed away.19:35
crashanddieallegedly.19:35
RevdKathywell, I would agree except  the message refered to him as Gary19:35
crashanddieand?19:35
lbtcrashanddie: be thoughtful please. RevdKathy is acting in good faith here.19:36
DocScrutinizerRevdKathy: can't you call tracey? Or sms back to her?19:36
lbtand we are all rather stunned19:36
DocScrutinizeron a different channel19:36
RST38hlcuk was probably the most positive guy in the whole Maemo/Meego community, or whatever passes for it19:36
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RST38hHow the hell could he die???19:36
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Stskeepsa lot of questions indeed..19:37
RST38hSure it is not some nasty prank?19:38
MohammadAGwhat the... :/19:38
RevdKathyI have the Twitter dms and that's all I have to go on. if someone has hacked his account and is that sick, i'm sorry but  I am only telling people as asked19:38
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lbtRevdKathy: thanks for doing that. It's the best approach I think19:38
faenilsad day :(19:39
RST38hIs lardman around? Maybe he has some details?19:39
RevdKathylbt: thanks.19:39
faenildeath cause still unknown? :(19:39
RST38hI think he had contacts with lcuk IRL19:39
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RevdKathythe message, if you believe it, says probably suicide.19:40
erstaziRevdKathy: thanks for informing us.19:40
RST38hRevdKathy:oh fuck...19:40
StskeepsRevdKathy: i don't envy that you have to pass this on to us - thank you for doing so19:40
faenilthe message? which message :O19:40
RST38hlcuk, of all people...19:40
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RevdKathywhich is why it is so tough when he was chatting to folks normally yesterdat19:40
RST38hRevdKathy:If he had any reasons for suicide, he was hiding them pretty damn well19:41
faeniltwo friends of mine suicided in the last two years, and they were both "normal" the day before...that's what strikes you... :(19:41
MohammadAGsuicide? :/19:41
RST38h+ wife and kids, not exactly a typical suicide case19:42
alteregoI didn't want to hear that19:42
alteregofuck19:42
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RevdKathy+wife and kids is sadly all too typival19:42
faenil:(19:42
crashanddieHis last son arrived not even months ago.19:42
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faenil:O19:43
GeneralAntillesThat's just . . . horrifying19:43
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Stskeepsi'm going to have to go afk for a bit, the news saddens me a lot - but i'm thankful for all the time i've had with lcuk19:43
RST38hRevdKathy: He had work. If he were laid off, he would not have much trouble finding new work in this community19:43
Stskeepsand the cigs i've bummed from him at events :P19:43
cpscottioh man!! worst piece of shocking bad news I had in a while19:43
RST38hRevdKathy: Had wife, kids. So, WTH?19:43
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erstaziRevdKathy: did he leave a note?19:44
crashanddieit was a twitter DM19:44
crashanddieso not much space for details I reckon19:44
faenilwhat? a twitter DM?19:44
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Stskeepshis wife was on twitter and some know her through there19:44
faenilit must have been tough on the receiver... :(19:44
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RevdKathyno, no details. 2 messages saying he committed suicide last night & please pass the message on19:45
DocScrutinizerI can't believe in both http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/%23meego.2011-09-13.log.html#t2011-09-13T14:56:40 and suicide being true19:45
faenil:(19:45
GeneralAntillesRevdKathy, thanks for relaying anyway.19:46
GeneralAntillesIs there a thread somewhere for flowers or meals or something?19:46
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RevdKathythread in community in both forums19:47
RST38hshit, why didn't he at least TALK to someone ?19:48
erstaziDamn19:50
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RevdKathyusually  I get weird texts in the middle of the night when he's feeling things are difficult. I know one or two others do, too19:50
RST38hand there was nothing?19:50
lbtRevdKathy: yeah. He's had rough patches.19:51
RevdKathynope, nothing last night.19:51
crashanddieHe was bubbling with ideas.19:52
crashanddiethis doesn't make sense19:52
cpscotticrashanddie, no it doesn't :/19:53
SpeedEvilPeople bubbling with ideas can sometimes bubble with very wrong ideas that seem to make sense to them at the time.19:53
RST38hexactly, no sense offing oneself when the one and only great project is incomplete19:53
RevdKathydoes suicide ever make sense?19:54
cpscottiRST38h, yep.. you know.. it was not like he was stuck in something.. he was actively working on it.. but well.. I guess that just adds to the idea that sometimes this things don't make sense.. maybe it's just bad chemistry in ur brain  :(19:54
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faenilRevdKathy: he asked to pass the word on in one of this messages?19:57
MohammadAGRevdKathy, he never said anything19:57
RevdKathyno, his wife did. she didn't know who else to contact in the community19:57
faeniloh ok19:58
MohammadAGthat was at faenil19:58
RST38hMost of the time for the last two years or so, he was almost eerily cheery19:58
MohammadAGthis is very saddening for me19:58
MohammadAGhe was the reason I'm here19:58
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faenilMohammadAG: as I understood, he left a message saying he had committed suicide..that's what I got at least...is that wrong?19:58
Stskeepsfaenil: wife sent a message19:58
Stskeepsabout his suicide19:59
wazdIs it really that important to know the reason? He was a great talented man no matter what.19:59
faeniloh ok...19:59
RST38hwazd: Yes, it is important to know the reason19:59
Stskeepswazd: it is a sad but typical thing about human behaviour.. wanting to find reasons19:59
RST38hwazd: Otherwise, you end up with the WHY question and no answer, forever20:00
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RST38hwazd: and lcuk is one of those people everyone here cares about20:00
DocScrutinizerI'd be able to believe in any accident or illness, stroke, whatever. But *suicide*??20:01
RST38hexactly20:01
RevdKathysadly, I think suicide always leaves those behind with a bloody great WHY and there is no answer.20:02
DocScrutinizerI know that, RevdKathy. But I never seen anybody chatting on IRC in the late afternoon and committing suicide 6h later20:03
lbtDocScrutinizer: I knew Gary. It was the first thing I thought of. I hoped it wasn't so. I still do. His brain was often fizzing and I think sometimes it affected his emotions too much.20:03
cpscottiRevdKathy, yep.. someone said "Suicide's never painless if you leave everybody in pain"20:03
StskeepsDocScrutinizer: i've seen someone sit in school and talk happily and then later go out for a suicide attempt.. sadly, the human mind is strange20:03
RST38hactually, no, there are usually reasons20:03
Stskeepsbut let's not ponder too much about the how. we've lost someone20:04
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MohammadAGI agree with wazd there20:04
wazdStskeeps: exactly20:04
RST38hActually, there is still a chance it is someone's evil hoax20:04
StskeepsRST38h: yes, but it doesn't help to people being upset about it20:04
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DocScrutinizerI'm still too concerned about authenticity of the original SMS20:04
crashanddieI'll probably take a few days off to attend the funeral and see if I can help T in these moments. I'm out, sick of this shit. Later.20:05
Stskeepssee you crashanddie20:05
RST38hg'luck crash20:05
RevdKathysee you crashanddie20:05
RST38hhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sjgadsby/3994528473/in/set-7215762253478627620:08
cpscottiwait, so why did lcuk2 last signon was this morning: * [lcuk2] idle 12:11:12, signon: Wed Sep 14 05:55:1420:08
Stskeepscpscotti: probably automatic after a timeout20:08
cpscottiStskeeps, oh.. sorry20:08
Stskeepsirc ghosts like that sadly happen20:08
Estel_damn, I've just got the news.20:08
RST38hHe is still signed on20:09
RST38hresponds to ping too20:09
Estel_I didn't know Him too much, but I'm terrifed netherless. Also I hope it's a hoax...20:09
StskeepsRST38h: if you're a loved one, the last thing you think about is turning off the equipment20:09
JaffaSo would I - screen + irssi is handy, but would have such an effect20:09
DocScrutinizerDocScrutinizer51 would linger on for months20:10
RST38hStskeeps: if you are loved, you do not off yourself20:11
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StskeepsRST38h: i meant family20:11
RST38hah ok20:11
Stskeepsok, this discussion isn't really productive - i'll go remember lcuk over a cup of tea20:12
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* RST38h recalls applicable DrWho episode (Silence in The Library)20:12
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RST38hlcuk loved watching DrWho btw20:12
Estel_very wise. Of course everyone is Free to talk, but I think it's wosrt we can do to deny his decision now, if its true20:12
RevdKathyit is often people who are very much loved who "off themselves" the mind is not logical20:12
Estel_I know many *loved* (by others) people who did it.20:13
RST38hThere are usually other reasons though20:13
Estel_feelings arent about logic, depression isn't too.20:13
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Estel_depression is a ilness. You dont blame someone with cancer for dying, yep?20:13
DocScrutinizerEstel_: believe me, depression isn't changing THAT fast20:13
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  as i said I didn't knew him almost20:14
RST38hWell, it is about the right time for the seasonal depression to kick in, but lcuk is a big boy, he must have known it20:14
Estel_but depression is often well hidden20:14
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Estel_I was reffering to long-term depression. not seasonal.20:14
RevdKathyerr, yes. depression can do exactly that. 80 % of suicides in the UK are completely unexpected20:14
Estel_My wife was/is ill (depression)20:14
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RST38hRevdKathy: must.drink.more.vodka20:15
Estel_It's only proposition, so, no one feel offended, but i think we should not chit-chat like that before confirmation appears.20:15
RST38hAt least it gives your relatives enough time to notice your problem.20:15
* DocScrutinizer frowns and considers heading out to meet some people in real life20:15
MohammadAGRST38h, not helping20:15
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marmouteDocScrutinizer: look a good idea20:16
RST38hEstel <== essentially correct20:16
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Estel_just imagine it's a hoax and he read logs later. Or, anyway, I think real life conversation is much more healthy for us too. anyway, I'm off for a while20:16
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frals:(((((((20:18
RST38hEstel: most of the stuff that has been said still applies20:18
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Estel_RST38h i dont ex€tly understand. May be just my mind now, ho ever.20:19
Estel_exactly*20:20
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granporculiohello boys20:23
granporculiocan anyone who uses qtcreator help me in this? http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/9715/20:24
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Estel_thanks, DocScrutinizer (topic change)20:30
RevdKathyyes, thank-you for that20:31
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mece_:(20:54
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Venemohi21:05
Venemowho is lcuk2?21:05
RST38ha ghost21:06
fralsour lost friend :<21:06
Venemo:S21:06
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VenemoI would want to attend lcuk's funeral, but can't afford the flight to the UK21:09
VenemoI am so sorry for him21:09
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Venemomaybe this is just one of lcuk's jokes... (I wish...) maybe he just wants to know how many condolences he would get if he died.21:11
crevetorI don't see him doing such a sick joke21:11
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lcuk2this is his girlfriend i didn't realise he's left this logged in. it's no joke he's gone and left myself and my boys on our own21:12
Venemolcuk2, I'm so sorry about him21:13
crevetorlcuk2: oh shit.21:13
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RST38hhello Tracey21:13
RevdKathyhi Teebee. we're all thinking of him21:13
Venemohello Tracy21:14
RevdKathyand of you, of course21:14
RST38hReally sorry about lcuk, the world got a little bit darker without him21:14
SpeedEvilI can't say anything else than good wishes at this horrible time.21:14
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X-FadeWhat sad news. :( I'll miss his cheerful spirit.21:15
ruskie:'(21:16
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Estel_lcuk2 (Tracey) thank You for information, and forgive that I can't find words. Just want to let You know that I somehow understand how You can feel, through shared experiences.21:17
Estel_warm thoughts for You and boys.21:17
RevdKathylcuk2 let us know if there's anything we can do to help.21:19
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matrixxlcuk2: my deepest condolences for you and the kids :(21:22
Estel_Yea, seriously, if there is anything we can do, we would glady try to help. Not saying this only as empty declaration.21:22
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RST38hmoo,tekojo21:23
tekojoMoo RST38h21:23
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ShadowJK:(21:25
habmalathoughts go out to you lcuk221:29
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RST38hheya javispedro21:30
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: o/ :'(21:31
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RST38hMeanwhile: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t22:01
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* javispedro realizes coding is like a pain-free substitute of getting high, it causes you to forget about what the tide took away today22:29
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RST38hjavispedro: you realized it just now? =) try knitting!22:33
* rm_work knits22:34
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* rm_work cannot forget :(22:35
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RST38hreading then?22:36
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RST38hhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/4086491418/22:45
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RST38hhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88474662@N00/4034769518/22:47
RST38hhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88474662@N00/4027110632/22:47
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