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eichi_N900hello. I want to dev a slamm application. At the moment, i think python with gtk is the easiest and pyside the best I can use. What do you think about that? What should I use?00:53
eichi_N900slamm = small00:53
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newbie007hi, can anyone tell me the status of hildon desktop, can I install this on a intel chipset? What about arm7?01:12
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Sicelonewbie007: try Cordia project :/ i don't have more details beyond that01:31
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eichi_N900No one can give me an answer?01:40
javispedroeichi_N900: which devices you want to target?01:45
javispedroeichi_N900: and, you have previous experience with either of two? (pygtk or pyside)01:45
eichi_N900For n900. I did a little with python, gtk and holdon objects. But want to choose the right framework now, before my first big development01:47
eichi_N900i also did some c++ with qt on desktop, but want to try python, because i dont need sdk stuff01:48
eichi_N900i like the idea to develop on mobile device directly. With pygtkeditor for example01:51
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javispedropygtk/pymaemo still might work better on the N90001:57
eichi_N900Ok then i will use this now. Also it should be the simple and fast way ;) thanks01:57
javispedrobut if you ever plan to get it on the N950/N9 then you might have to redo it01:58
eichi_N900yeah i know01:58
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thansenis there a specific channel I can go to for ovi maps questions? using the js api...02:41
SpeedEvilIsn't the aPI new in harmattan?02:43
SpeedEvilIf so - #harmattan02:43
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slonopotamusjust got new cssu. camera-ui still always says there's no free space :/08:20
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thansenSpeedEvil: I'm simply trying to use this..
thansenshould I hop into the other channel for that?08:33
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slonopotamuswhich repo liblocation-dev and libprofile-dev come from?09:01
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bash`uhm...many updates today, new SSU release coming?11:12
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psycho_oreosit already came11:14
psycho_oreosand no, no new official SSU11:15
ThreeMhi there11:15
bash`psycho_oreos: hi, I mean Community SSU11:15
psycho_oreosyes its already out11:15
ThreeMi have a problem and i hope you yan help. My N900 hangs in a bootloop und doesend boot to flashmode by pressing u at startup11:16
bash`psycho_oreos: no changelog available yet?11:16
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jpinxmy camera app has died - it givees me "operation failed" when I either click the icon or open the slider11:16
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jpinxany clues?11:16
andre__the official app, or the app that is part of the cssu?11:17
andre__tried a reboot already? :)11:17
psycho_oreosThreeM, take the battery out and have the device not plugged into USB for ~30 seconds plug in USB cable, hold the U key as you re-insert the battery11:17
jpinxandre__: the official app11:17
ThreeMok i will try11:17
jpinxandre__:  rebooted many times ;)11:17
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jpinxandre__: only change I can think of was installng kernel for power users toi enable usb modem (which did not work)11:19
andre__that reminds me of a bug report. give me a minute.11:19
* andre__ starts browser11:19
ThreeMpsycho_oreos nothing happen11:19
edheldilI think you have to update fcam when installing power kernel or something like that11:19
ThreeMnokia screen with usb symbol, but flasher still no regognize the phone as suitable usb device11:20
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fizzieThe curiosity. Suddenly the lens cover slider no longer starts/stops the camera app, and the focus keypress now always starts it (as if it thought the cover was permanently open), but that "flashlight" app can read the lens cover state just fine, since it appears/disappears in the status menu if I wiggle the cover.11:21
psycho_oreosThreeM, and on the N900 its still showing USB symbol on?11:21
* jpinx would happily rollback the power kernel install if that is possible11:21
ThreeMpsycho_oreos yea11:21
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psycho_oreosThreeM, maybe your computer cannot see the USB device, probably because you're trying to flash it under VM or some other weird reason11:22
ThreeMmy computer see the N900 when i put the usb cable11:23
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ThreeM"USB device found found at bus 002, device address 018."11:23
ThreeMbut seems flasher dont put the N900 in flashmode11:24
psycho_oreosflasher does not put N900 into flashmode, only N900 is capable of putting itself into flashmode11:24
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psycho_oreoswhich host OS are you running?11:25
ThreeMhmm maybe its an issue with bootmenu 1.10 ?11:25
psycho_oreosand what does lsusb with the USB cable plugged in? (should only be one relevant line)11:25
psycho_oreosif its an issue with bootmenu, you're pretty much screwed with a stuffed bootloader :)11:26
bash`how can I download every repository in the Community SSU project on gitorious?11:26
psycho_oreosotherwise I technically doubt it11:26
ThreeMBus 002 Device 029: ID 0421:0105 Nokia Mobile Phones Nokia Firmware Upgrade Mode11:26
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psycho_oreosyeah so that's should be the correct mode for flashing maybe you have an old flasher tool?11:26
ThreeMflasher 3.511:27
psycho_oreosis the linux OS 32bit or 64bit?11:27
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ThreeM64bit, but flashing was never an issue until now :)11:27
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psycho_oreosafaik there was a thing for 64bit that you have to install/use to make it work11:28
psycho_oreosthe other possible thing is a faulty USB cable and/or USB ports11:28
ThreeMis the flasher 2.5.2 the latest version?11:28
psycho_oreosit is the latest for non-ARM platform11:28
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JaffaMorning, all11:29
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povbotBug 11648: [kernel-power] Camera application crashes immediately after the start (after opening the cover)11:30
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jierotoday the FCamera crashed my System...11:30
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jierohow a camera appliaction lead to whole system segement?11:31
jpinxandre__: many thanks11:31
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psycho_oreosI think they use their own kernel modules11:31
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jpinxjiero: yes I might go back to standard kernel11:31
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jierojpinx: then you will lose the fun to overclock11:32
psycho_oreosthere's plenty of other things you'll lose apart from simply being able to overclock11:32
psycho_oreossome things to lose, in others may gain11:33
jpinxpsy6es, like overuse of the battery ;)11:33
jpinxpsycho_oreos: /\ /\11:33
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jpinxmy battery doesn't last half a day with the powerkernel11:34
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psycho_oreosjpinx, it depends on how you use it as well with power kernel :) you can't just for example overclock on powerkernel, sees that it chews away batteries like hell and declare powerkernel gives poor battery usability11:35
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psycho_oreosor running things like wifi-hotspot11:36
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psycho_oreosI have had my device running on pk48 with R&D mode (even though its highly not recommended to leave it in R&D mode) lasting about a days usage with bluetooth for more or less 8 hours plus a few moments of internet surfing11:37
psycho_oreosand maybe tinkering the device in my spare time11:37
ThreeMis the deviced bricked when bootloader is fucked?11:38
jpinxpsycho_oreos: I wanted wifihotpsot and usb modem, but neither worked, so I'll probably rollback11:39
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psycho_oreosif NOLO is fucked, yeah you can pretty much say bye bye to the device11:40
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: you can coldflash11:40
robbiethe1stUSB modem? Um... it'll do that by default.11:40
robbiethe1stIf you mean using it to tether...11:40
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: without nolo11:40
psycho_oreosjpinx, some users were reporting issues with wifi hotspot and pk4811:40
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: you can have empty nand11:40
psycho_oreosjacekowski, o.O11:40
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: and recover with just usb cable11:40
ThreeMdamn, all i have done is to restore a backup with bootmenu11:40
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ThreeMafter that the device was not booting :(11:41
psycho_oreosyou meant backupmenu11:41
robbiethe1stBecause you didn't do it right. That won't brick anything.11:41
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psycho_oreosand I really doubt that would have been the cause but then again11:41
robbiethe1stMore than likely, your backup didn't have the same kernel active11:41
robbiethe1stas the one you were currently running11:41
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: and i've done it11:41
ThreeMthat can be11:41
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: omap has bootloader in ROM11:41
robbiethe1stYou can either manually flash the kernel with the flasher utility11:41
ThreeMthe backup hold the 48 powerkernel, the N900 has an updated 4911:42
robbiethe1stOr start from scratch, install backupmenu, then restore11:42
psycho_oreosjacekowski, so what does it look like without NOLO? you still get the nokia screen? out of curiousity that is11:42
jacekowskipovbot: ~coldflash11:42
povbotjacekowski: Error: "~coldflash" is not a valid command.11:42
jacekowskipovbot: no11:42
povbotjacekowski: Error: "no" is not a valid command.11:42
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: no11:42
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: you get dead device11:42
jpinxrobbiethe1st: I  mean to use the n900 as a usb modem for my laptop11:42
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: that doesn't even power up11:42
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jacekowskipsycho_oreos: in visible way11:42
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robbiethe1stSo, you'll need to download the PK48 deb file, extract it, pull the zimage out of it, and flash that with the -k argument11:42
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: but if you plug usb cable in and then insert battery it powers up11:42
psycho_oreosjacekowski, hmm ok and you're saying that's how cold flashing recovers it all.. heh I thought by that time you'd need JTAG11:42
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robbiethe1stjpinx, Yes, it does that by default11:43
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jacekowskipsycho_oreos: and if you have flasher ready and waiting it will talk to bootrom and send coldflash nolo11:43
robbiethe1stjpinx, use 'PC Suite' mode when you plug it into USB, then run your software PC side11:43
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jacekowskipsycho_oreos: and then you can do normal flash using that11:43
ThreeMrobbiethe1st complete flash the device will not work?11:43
ThreeMi mean the vannila and combined images?11:44
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: look at11:44
infobotwell, coldflash is and next ~200 posts, or
jpinxrobbiethe1st: maybe I explain badly. I do the pcsuite connection but my debian laptop doesn't get connected11:44
psycho_oreosjacekowski, interesting I thought cold flashing was where you still get nokia screen but it won't go into the right modes11:44
robbiethe1stThreeM, It won't boot because the kernel image is wrong. You can either flash the kernel alone, which will probably make it work, or do a reflash(combined only)11:44
robbiethe1stNo need for eMMC image at all11:44
ThreeMhmm ok i will try11:45
robbiethe1stjpinx, it's a debian issue. You'll probably need to use QVDial11:45
ThreeMbig thx11:45
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: NOKIA screen is from working second stage bootloader11:45
psycho_oreosjacekowski, yeah I had a look at that wiki page before, didn't think that was a way to actually rescue even a dead NOLO11:45
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: n900 has 3 bootloaders11:45
psycho_oreosyeah I read that not long ago with a hack to change the nokia logo11:45
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: 4 in some way11:45
psycho_oreosxloader is the first part?11:45
jpinxrobbiethe1st: I'll come back to you - I' in a bus station here. not able to test anything11:45
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: bootrom11:45
jacekowskinolo xloader11:46
jacekowskinolo second11:46
jacekowski+ there is nolo second used for coldflashing11:46
jacekowskiit's different to normal nolo11:46
jacekowskione is called secondary and other one is called 2nd11:46
jacekowskibut i don't remember which way it is11:46
robbiethe1stEr, it's wvdial11:46
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: and you have to make sure your phone is really switched off11:48
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: otherwise it won't work11:48
jacekowskipsycho_oreos: so you have to pull battery out and leave it for few seconds/minutes11:48
robbiethe1stjpinx, keep handy. You'll need to slightly modify this, but this is what you need in your /etc/wvdial.conf file to tether. Then, connect N900, PC Suite mode, and run wvdial(as root)11:48
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jpinxrobbiethe1st: thanks11:49
robbiethe1stshould just need to change the APN11:49
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DocScrutinizer([2011-09-07 10:16:00] <ThreeM> i have a problem and i hope you yan help. My N900 hangs in a bootloop und doesend boot to flashmode by pressing u at startup) alien recharge your battery12:05
ThreeMflashing the kernelimage 47 worked like a charm :)12:07
ThreeMbig thx robbiethe1st and psycho_oreos12:07
DocScrutinizer([2011-09-07 10:38:56] <ThreeM> is the deviced bricked when bootloader is fucked?) no, you can coldflash, but evidently yout problem isn't bootloader nor bootmenu, you got a problem at PC side12:09
ThreeMDocScrutinizer problem is solved.12:10
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edheldilRST38h:  I wonder whether SK forces wouldn't be damaged by EMP more than NK's12:19
DocScrutinizerrobbiethe1st: how about backup/restore of kernel partition?12:21
robbiethe1stI don't really know how I'd go about it... Could/would I use nandwrite/read, or should I try to just find a copy on the root/optfs?12:29
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DocScrutinizernandread/write is the way to go I'd think13:00
cehteharrgs .. bricked my device :P13:03
nealHow do I disable apt updating over wifi?13:03
infobotneal meant: How do I disable apt updating over cellular?13:03
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nealVenemo: Thanks!13:13
Venemoneal, yw13:13
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psycho_oreosnever chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf... lol14:06
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DocScrutinizererr wut?14:57
DocScrutinizerpsycho_oreos: why?14:59
DocScrutinizeron maemo I thought /etc/resolv.conf actually never gets changed15:00
psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, I don't know if it is just me but I rememeber I manually added entries into resolv.conf and that was cleared out when I switched.. maybe I restored my backup and hence I overreacted15:01
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DocScrutinizerwell, you're not supposed to add entries to resolv.conf15:02
psycho_oreosit was one of the things that sort of annoyed me as it took ages for pages to load even with all those addons for microb to make it go faster15:02
psycho_oreostrue but I was annoyed at it taking its time to resolve hostnames and hence going about my own ways :/15:02
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DocScrutinizerresolv.conf is meant to point to always15:03
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DocScrutinizeron maemo15:03
psycho_oreoson mine it was blank, I've added google dns entries before and now I'm adding them again15:03
DocScrutinizerfremantle is using dnsmasq15:05
DocScrutinizersee cat /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq15:05
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DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf15:06
psycho_oreosmine was definitely empty :)15:06
psycho_oreosI have a few tarballs to prove it.. but it could've been something that I've done to make it go blank lol15:07
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bindiwhat repo is dbus-scripts on? not finding15:39
bindiextras-devel apparently15:41
bindii have it activated15:41
psycho_oreosmight need to refresh the lists15:42
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psycho_oreosthrough which program?15:44
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bindissh, apt-get update15:44
psycho_oreosno errors when it came to downloading and refreshing package lists from extras-devel?15:45
bindiactually hm15:45
bindii might have lied15:45
bindilooks like FAM has a source list of it's own15:45
psycho_oreosit doesn't15:46
bindiwell I see extras-devel there, well and activated15:46
bindiin HAM I don't15:46
psycho_oreosdbus-scripts afaik doesn't have icon and if it doesn't have icon iinm FAM or HAM would not list it as a program15:46
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bindididnt look it from there, just checked the repositories in FAM15:47
psycho_oreosmeaning in other words its best to install it from the command line15:47
psycho_oreosFAM relies on apt-get15:47
bindisigh I quit HAM15:49
bindiE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:49
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bindiand adding extras-devel in HAM worked, even it showed up in FAM15:49
bindimind you I just installed the new CSSU update15:50
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* jonwil wishes he could find someone who knows how to write status bar widgets so he can get some help writing the Cell Broadcast SMS widget15:50
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SpeedEvilPoke the authors of some?15:51
SpeedEvilcpumem applet?15:51
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jonwildont know of anyone who makes these things15:51
SpeedEvilwell - look at he project page, and ping them15:52
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bindijust applied karam's speed and batterypatch15:59
bindiwe'll see how good it functions15:59
cityLightsprobably a common question , now that cssu update is out16:01
bindiit won't boot xD16:01
bindii'm guessing low battery though16:01
bindii've booted many times now :f16:01
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cityLightshow to tell where I got too much occupied space in the root fs?16:02
keriodu / | sort -n16:02
cityLightsdu --max-depth=1 doesnt work16:02
jacekowskicityLights: ncdu16:02
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keriokimitake: wtf16:03
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scoobertronit will remember the layouts you want for portrait and landscape, so you only need to set them up once16:05
scoobertroncrap, sorry, wrong channel16:05
nealIs there a way to figure out when a h-a-m update has completed and what its status was, e.g., some dbus signal? doesn't appear to provide such functionality...16:11
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cityLightshow to get the rx/tx speed a device gives16:19
cityLightslike vnstat16:19
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cityLightswhich shows that eth0 is now sending (tx) 0Mib/sec16:19
cityLightswhich shows that eth0 is now sending (tx) 10Mib/sec16:19
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svuorela&win 3316:22
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bindithat karam's battery and speed patch16:45
bindidevice boots, and i'm now at the desktop with nothing but a wallpaper and the menu icon16:46
bindiwon't react to anything16:46
bindialright stuff just happened16:46
bindilooked like artifacts on screen16:47
bindiperhaps i shoujld disable that gpu acc of menus16:47
bindiand other stuff... if i ever get there16:47
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bindiworks now16:51
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bindiopinions on must-have apps17:19
bindior rather, what are your must-have apps17:19
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kevin_bbindi, microB17:36
kevin_baircrack, nmap17:36
bindiI actually tried aircrack17:36
kevin_bwebOs games, psx4m17:36
bindithe wlan card mode or something drove me nuts and it wouldnt work17:36
kevin_bit does work17:36
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kevin_band the N900 wifi is very powerful17:36
bindiuser error clearly :p17:37
bindivery powerful? :D17:37
bindiin terms of speed, not really17:37
bindi500 kB/s is what i've peaked at17:37
bindireally close to the ap17:37
kevin_bI mean, it can get wifi packets over many walls for me17:37
kevin_bmaybe walls around me are too thin haha17:37
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bindiactually yeah17:37
SpeedEvilI get 1.8M/s or so transfer to another thing on the net17:37
bindihow? D:17:38
SpeedEvilscp foo phone17:38
bindi100Mb line here17:38
bindilaptop gets 10 Mb17:38
SpeedEvilthis is internal17:38
SpeedEvilto a g router17:38
bindii know17:38
bindii could test it locally but doesnt change anything17:38
bindiit's slow17:38
kevin_bbut the best app to me is...;17:38
bindieven ssh lags17:38
kevin_bXTerm haha17:38
bindikevin_b: did aircrack-ng work for you out of the box?17:39
SpeedEvilbindi: that probably indicates probelms with powerdaving17:39
bindiit installed to a weird location and i had to add it to $PATH17:39
kevin_bmmm, maybe need to use the extras-devel one17:39
bindiand then i don't know what it failed on17:40
bindior don't remember17:40
bindiSpeedEvil: hmm?17:40
bindikevin_b: I have extras-devel and extras, how do I get the devel one?17:42
bindiI'm only seeing one anyway17:42
kevin_byea anyway maybe there s only one17:42
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nealanyone know if h-a-m uses the files in /var/cache/apt/archives?18:05
nealor does it always redownload?18:05
neale.g, if I do apt-get install --download-only, will h-a-m later use the downloaded archives or will it redownload them?18:05
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RST38h...Marx claimed that under industrial age capitalism's rules, commodities became revered talismans, worshipped through transactional exchanges, imbued with mystical powers that give them inherent value...18:12
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RST38hGold is older than that18:27
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thansenSpeedEvil: ping18:37
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slonopotamusso, i checked out cssu camera-ui from git, built it but it only says "Init: 0x4134f330" when run and sits silently :/18:53
slonopotamus(no gui)18:53
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Siceloneal: at least apt-get install does use them, so i'd suppose ham does too19:03
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VenemoDocScrutinizer, why is it that people on the German e-bay usually only ship to Germany?19:45
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DocScrutinizerthey probably hate the trouble of shipping to another country19:47
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flux..does solving that problem involve something else than money?19:49
x29aVenemo: looking up shipping costs is a hazzle19:50
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Venemoso they are lazy19:51
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dos1who's in charge of CSSU version of camera-ui?20:19
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wmaronedos1: ask in #maemo-ssu20:21
dos1wmarone: ok, thanks20:21
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dbkhello.  i am having trouble connecting via wifi to a particular access point.  it is a wap54g and for some reason when i choose to connect to it from the "internet connections" menu and enter the wpa pre-shared key, i get "Network connection error.  Try again?" but trying again yields the same result.20:29
dbkthis in an n900....20:29
Siceloother devices connect fine to this ap?20:30
dbkyes, i have connected via laptop using the same pre-shared key20:30
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Sicelon900 can connect to other ap's?20:31
dbkyes, n900 has connected to other aps with no problems20:32
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dbkany idea what could be the problem?20:37
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dos1WARNING: it seems that camera-ui from newest CSSU is overwriting photos taken by another applications (like BlessN900)!!!20:55
DocScrutinizer[2011-09-07 19:56:13] <dos1> WARNING: it seems that camera-ui from newest CSSU is overwriting photos taken by another applications (like BlessN900)!!!20:56
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DocScrutinizerthis is the supergau bug, it causes USEr DATA LOSS20:57
DocScrutinizerso please beware of the most recent CSSU update20:57
dbkWe apologize, but we are unable to access your hosting account information at this time.20:58
DocScrutinizeror take care about your pictures20:58
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DocScrutinizermaximum credible accident21:00
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eichilol there is nowhere some tutorial for pymaemo with layout manager. All examples just do one button on window21:03
eichiand with gtk layout manager, I cant add hilton.Button21:03
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dbkWe apologize, but we are unable to access your hosting account information at this time.21:17
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bindiinteresting this kamil's battery patch22:36
bindiit's drained 40% in 2.5 hours22:36
bindiidled all time except for 1 call22:36
bindino 3g no wlan22:36
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Sicelosure there wasn't any busy process in the background? (i once had MicroEmulator drain about just as fast after it crased)22:46
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infobotOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer)22:48
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PBeckis it possible to use the sim access profile on the n900?23:17
Sicelodon't think so. there isn't any setting for it.. tried scanning N900 from a computer?23:23
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PBeckSicelo: ah good idea i will look how i can do it with hcitool23:26
Siceloi have just done it. isn't there :)23:27
PBeckhum and hfl?23:28
Sicelonope, actually i think bluetooth profiles supported by N900 are listed somewhere, wiki maybe23:31
PBeckService Name: Headset Audio Gateway23:32
PBeckService Name: Hands-Free Audio Gateway23:32
PBeckService Name: Audio Source23:32
PBeckService Name: AVRCP TG23:32
PBeckService Name: AVRCP CT23:32
PBeckService Name: Object Push server23:32
PBeckService Name: File Transfer server23:32
PBeckService Name: Nokia OBEX PC Suite Services23:32
PBeckService Name: SyncML Client23:32
PBeckService Name: Nokia SyncML Server23:32
PBeckhum can be hands-free audio gateway23:32
SpeedEvilSim access profile requires low-level support by the modem23:32
SpeedEvilAs I understand it - it's not supported.23:32
SpeedEvilWhich is a real pity23:32
PBeckSpeedEvil: :/23:33
PBeckit's really hard to understand nokia :(23:35
PBeckno meego device in germany :/23:35
PBeckthen it would be not so problem when the n900 hat not this feature :/23:35
DocScrutinizerwould need a proper -p(lugin) for csd (see ps ax|grep csd, cat /proc/`pidof csd`/cmdline)23:37
* DocScrutinizer wonders what's -p sim and -p simpb23:38
PBeckDocScrutinizer: explain :)23:39
PBeckwhat is csd?23:40
DocScrutinizerthe daemon connecting to ISI aka modem I guess23:40
DocScrutinizer769 root      3280 S    /usr/sbin/csd -m -p call -p gprs -p info -p net -p si23:41
PBeckah ok23:41
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DocScrutinizerI guess it doesn't know how to handle SIM access profile23:44
PBeckyou mean from the hardware?23:44
DocScrutinizermaybe not even modem firmware allows that23:44
DocScrutinizerI think there's really very few mobile phones that actually support SAP23:45
DocScrutinizerFreerunner one of them, since err moko10?23:45
Sicelo9500/9300 ftw ;)23:45
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PBecklol ;)23:46
DocScrutinizerfor some reason it seems manufacturers consider SAP a security issue23:46
DocScrutinizer\o/ javispedro23:47
PBeckDocScrutinizer: the openmoko neo freerunner the best supported device on the earth ;(23:47
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PBeckDocScrutinizer: yeah and the car manufactures say its great ;)23:47
DocScrutinizerPBeck: WHAT?! I gave you SAP and you still complain? ;-P23:47
PBeckDocScrutinizer: on the wrong device ;)23:47
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DocScrutinizerPBeck: >> === Moko9-Beta2 === * Adds "AT+CSIM" (for swisscom)<<
cehtehwhy is my rootfs 99% full just after flashing and installing cssu23:50
PBeckDocScrutinizer: good good ;)23:52
cehtehbah .. not even space to install rootsh .. fuuu!23:53
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AtariiThere's so many battery/speed/overclock threads these days23:56
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DocScrutinizercehteh: sounds odd23:58
DocScrutinizercehteh: please rise the issue on #maemo-ssu23:59

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