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| Shapeshifter | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Disconnect_internet what's the difference/relevance between ICD2 and ICD? | 00:09 |
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| Shapeshifter | which do I need if I want it to work always | 00:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | vi__: haha | 00:14 |
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| javispedro | recovering that topic of smartwatches, | 00:20 |
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| javispedro | I am now considering the InPulse, which I mentioned too | 00:21 |
| javispedro | basicallhttp://www.getinpulse.com/ | 00:21 |
| javispedro | er.. | 00:21 |
| javispedro | http://www.getinpulse.com/ | 00:21 |
| javispedro | $149, and OLED | 00:21 |
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| javispedro | the thing is that on the forum some say that having a permantent but small HH:MM text on the OLED _always on_ makes the battery last around 20h aka 1 day | 00:21 |
| javispedro | a potentially interesting price to pay for having color oled.. | 00:22 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 00:23 |
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| SpeedEvil | Black and white LCD is about it for watch-class battery life | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | probably not even graphical. | 00:23 |
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| javispedro | yeah, that's what makes TI's metawatch interesting | 00:23 |
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| javispedro | but still.. | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | the OLED thing is not meant to stay on | 00:24 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: evidently. but the thing above is the same trick the N9 does. | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | producing light eats lots of power, no matter how you do it | 00:25 |
| javispedro | small pixel count = less power. | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: the N9 has a HUGE battery compared to a wrist watch | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | like 20 times the capacity | 00:25 |
| javispedro | evidently | 00:26 |
| javispedro | too :) | 00:26 |
| vi__ | why is today noob day? | 00:26 |
| javispedro | but in case you want to have _something_ always on and still have reasonable battery life.. | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | a wrist watch with permanent display wants to use LCD | 00:26 |
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| javispedro | and color screen ;) | 00:27 |
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| SpeedEvil | Or eink | 00:27 |
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| MohammadAG | sup maemoers | 00:27 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil++ | 00:27 |
| javispedro | sadly, eink-on-a-watch seems to be +$1000 yet. | 00:27 |
| vi__ | javispedro: do not forget the primary function of a watch is to indicate the time at a glace | 00:27 |
| javispedro | vi__: a $5 chinese watch would work finely for that | 00:27 |
| Atarii | anyone got KP48 and hildon-desktop portrait mode working? | 00:27 |
| javispedro | hello MohammadAG | 00:27 |
| vi__ | javispedro: any watch that does not last ATLEAST a month without running out of power is gay and pointless | 00:28 |
| vi__ | MohammadAG: hay champ | 00:28 |
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| javispedro | vi__: so, how would you call watchless people? übergay? | 00:28 |
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| vi__ | javispedro: obviously | 00:29 |
| mzanetti | Hi. Since the latest update of the QtSDK creating a package spits out this error again: Can't exec "debian/rules" | 00:29 |
| mzanetti | I have made sure rules is executable | 00:30 |
| vi__ | perhaps the rules are in the wrong place? | 00:30 |
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| vi__ | what is the best n900 email client? | 00:31 |
| mzanetti | hmmm... I didn't change the source of my project... its still in qtc_packaging/debian_fremantle/rules and its copied to the build dir debian/rules | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | not carrying any watch != carrying a useless watch | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1st is maybe cool, 2nd is extremely silly | 00:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's the difference between somebody without any mobile phone, and somebody carrying a mobile phone dummy? ;-D | 00:34 |
| Shapeshifter | ha | 00:35 |
| Shapeshifter | I managed to crash my n900 | 00:35 |
| Shapeshifter | how did that happen | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | crash? | 00:35 |
| Shapeshifter | I closed a terminal and immediately after tapped the task switcher | 00:36 |
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| Shapeshifter | well it seems like hildon-desktop crashed since the bar at the top was all garbled and a moment later it rebooted | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh, that just happens | 00:36 |
| Shapeshifter | fail | 00:36 |
| MohammadAG | <3 dsmetool | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehehe | 00:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | seems not even TI can guarantee DSP/GFXaccel always running flawlessly. So when hw-accelerated rendering crashes on X-server aka hildon-desktop, a reboot will ensue | 00:38 |
| Shapeshifter | I'm not impressed | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I know times back when x-server crashed on my desktop as well | 00:39 |
| Shapeshifter | if hildon-desktop actually segfaults because of a hardware fault it should just respawn | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, maemo is massively x-server centric. It'd be hard to respawn x-server and not make it look like a reboot anyway | 00:40 |
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| Shapeshifter | :< | 00:40 |
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| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: these are Imagination Tech, not TI | 00:42 |
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| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: but TI are idiots too =) | 00:42 |
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| * javispedro has been getting bounces from virtually every my.TI support account I've tried, silence from the others | 00:42 | |
| javispedro | Only one answer, which said something like " Dear $MY_FULLNAME, please complete your account registration. Required fields: Your fullname. <End of email>." | 00:43 |
| javispedro | so I replied with $MY_FULLNAME, and got a bounce. | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 00:44 |
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| javispedro | ah well | 02:43 |
| javispedro | hp is splitting palm again into hardware and software | 02:43 |
| javispedro | for those that don't know, what is currently known as "palm" is already the hardware branch of the result of palm splitting into hardware and software years ago. | 02:44 |
| Robot101 | there's a definite irony | 02:44 |
| x29a | even harder hardware then? | 02:44 |
| javispedro | so hard it's virtually nonexistant :) | 02:45 |
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| tank-man | i still have my handspring visor :) | 02:55 |
| tank-man | still usable as a universal remote with its ir port | 02:57 |
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| javispedro | I find it amazing that the palmos watches are still selling in the €200 range | 02:58 |
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| x29a | javispedro: where can you find them? i was looking for a programmable watch for like ages | 03:26 |
| javispedro | x29a: ebay | 03:26 |
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| javispedro | x29a: but we've been having discussions on this channel recently about modern programmable watches | 03:26 |
| x29a | darn, missed that part | 03:27 |
| x29a | whats the newest gadget? | 03:28 |
| x29a | i was close to building my own | 03:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | x29a: metawatch | 05:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | aka https://estore.ti.com/MSP-WDS430BT2000D-Bluetooth-Wearable-Watch-development-system-with-Digital-display-P2447.aspx | 05:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you were fine with DIY grade mech design and want to save some bucks, then maybe https://estore.ti.com/eZ430-Chronos-433-eZ430-Chronos-Wireless-Watch-Development-Tool-P1734.aspx | 05:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | or the 866 or even 900 variant | 05:13 |
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| Evanescence | how to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags" | 05:20 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:19 |
| Evanescence | how to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags" | 10:21 |
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| cityLights | hi, I forgot my N900 at home | 10:22 |
| cityLights | can I forward calls to my office number using the command line? | 10:22 |
| cityLights | via ssh | 10:22 |
| cehteh | possibly, at least you can start a vncserver and use the gui to establish forwarding | 10:24 |
| cityLights | hi cehteh | 10:25 |
| cehteh | hi | 10:25 |
| cityLights | can't I avoid vnc? | 10:25 |
| cityLights | I am seeking the dbus object | 10:25 |
| cityLights | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g | 10:25 |
| cehteh | dunno if there is any commandline interface to setup forwarding, possibly through dbus or maybe some existing app, i never used that | 10:25 |
| cityLights | what should I ask google? | 10:26 |
| cityLights | I tried maemo call forward csd.nokia.com | 10:26 |
| cityLights | didnt find it in the wiki either | 10:26 |
| kerio | cityLights: i think your only options are to look at the source code or to actually do it through the GUI while dbus-monitor runs :) | 10:27 |
| kerio | it's not that you can't avoid VNC, it's that it's going to be really painful if you do | 10:27 |
| cityLights | which source code to seek/ | 10:28 |
| cityLights | ? | 10:28 |
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| RST38h | <yawn> | 10:33 |
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| Evanescence | Is there a ctags package for Maemo N900 ? | 10:35 |
| cehteh | there was some collection for dbus calls somewhere on tmp | 10:35 |
| cehteh | tmo | 10:35 |
| hiemanshu | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/DBus/DBus_in_Freemantle#D-Bus | 10:36 |
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| cityLights | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/call-forward.c?revision=1&root=call-forward&view=markup | 10:50 |
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| cityLights | seems I can do it easy | 10:52 |
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| cityLights | hi lardman | 10:55 |
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| kevin_b | Ahoy | 11:14 |
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| kevin_b | how could I enlarge my ext2 image ? | 11:15 |
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| kerio | kevin_b: i get a lot of spam about that! | 11:16 |
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| kevin_b | kerio : :) | 11:18 |
| kevin_b | google told me how to do it, muhaha | 11:19 |
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| scaerd | hi | 11:21 |
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| scaerd | Im trying to use nmap as sudo gainroot (UDP scan) but i get error route_dst-netlink: cant find interface "gprs0". How can udp scan from maemo on a phone? | 11:22 |
| scaerd | ifconfig shows gprs0 with working IP and the connection is working fine. | 11:23 |
| kevin_b | mmm, is the gsm interface able to "scan"? | 11:24 |
| cehteh | it isnt ethernet at least | 11:24 |
| scaerd | im on 3G | 11:24 |
| kevin_b | i guess that's possible | 11:25 |
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| scaerd | u mean the network doesnt support udp/ip ? | 11:25 |
| scaerd | im not sure how nmap scans udp, but ports show up as either filtered or open OR filtered | 11:26 |
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| scaerd | in maemo it does not find gprs0. tcp scans work fine. | 11:27 |
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| lardman | cityLights: a belated hello :) | 11:42 |
| cityLights | I wish I could see amazon instant video on my N900 | 11:52 |
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| cityLights | it wants flash 10.... | 11:52 |
| cityLights | will the N9 solve it? | 11:52 |
| kerio | i doubt the N9 will solve anything | 11:53 |
| jiero | Is there a way to improve N900's video recording? | 11:53 |
| jiero | I hope Nokia could open source and let others fix that lags... | 11:54 |
| lardman | Lag when starting recording or audio/video sync? | 11:58 |
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| jiero | lardman: when recording | 12:00 |
| jiero | lardman: and playback | 12:00 |
| jiero | lardman: watching it I felt losed some frames suddenly | 12:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: as for time being it seems N9 will come with no flash support at all | 12:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: mind you N9 is an iPhone-me-too | 12:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | AT+CCFC=? | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | +CCFC: (0-5) | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | OK | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | pnatd | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | see http://mobil.nik.bmf.hu/tantargyak/mobil-2/gsm-at.ppt p.10 | 12:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | at+ccfc=0,2 | 12:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | +CCFC: 0,7 | 12:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | OK | 12:48 |
| auenf | AT&V | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | (note I'm handwaving regarding the parameters, the linked ppt is all but clear on them) | 12:49 |
| * auenf tries to remember his modem commands | 12:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer | auenf: you're pretty lost when trying to use old time 600ohm-landline modem codes on 3GPP ME | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | at&v work great though ;-D | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | who'd have thought the BB5 cellmo has a "complete" set of registers ;-P | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | ACTIVE PROFILE: | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | E1 Q0 V1 X5 &C1 &D2 &S0 &Y0 | 12:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | +CMEE=0 +CSTA=129 +CBST=134,1,0 +CR=0 +CRC=0 +CLIP=0,2 +CLIR=0,2 +CSNS=0 | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | +CVHU=1 +DS=0,0,2048,32 +DR=0 +ILRR=0 | 12:52 |
| auenf | pretty sure all the old school AT commands will work (or are emulated) in 3GPP devices ;) | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:075 S08:002 | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | S10:100 S12:050 S25:000 | 12:52 |
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| lardman | jiero: sorry for the delay, was doing baby bathing; I wonder if that's a GStreamer issue rather than DSP codec | 12:53 |
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| jiero | lardman: I think the mediaplayer by deafult not using GStreamer. | 12:54 |
| lardman | hmm, not so sure about that - we're talking about N900 here? | 12:55 |
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| lardman | pretty sure it's all gst, probably also on N950, though I've not looked | 12:55 |
| lardman | you could check that the media player is linked against of course | 12:56 |
| lardman | s/that/what | 12:56 |
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| jiero | thanks, as Nokia abandoned N900, no more support on it I suppose... | 13:00 |
| jiero | Some bugs there I guess. | 13:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | auenf: most of them, yes | 13:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway for call forwarding I don't recall any such function in pots | 13:03 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: moo | 13:08 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/nokia_ring_tone/ <-- omg... are they finally getting rid of that annoying Nokia tune??? | 15:26 |
| jacekowski | oh no | 15:26 |
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| MohammadAG | the N950 ringtone's nice | 15:33 |
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| ruskie | an orchestral version of the nokia tune might be interesting | 15:33 |
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| ruskie | maybe a bit more slowed down | 15:33 |
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| SpeedEvil | Nokia new ringtone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NbIGnY_DSIE#t=56s (perhaps with the bassline dropped) | 15:41 |
| SpeedEvil | In my defence - someone linked me to it. | 15:41 |
| MohammadAG | I have the perfect version | 15:44 |
| ruskie | me to... windows fanfare ;) | 15:44 |
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| MohammadAG | no, http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :) | 15:45 |
| MohammadAG | (your browser window may resize, I assure you though, it's no meatspin) | 15:45 |
| SpeedEvil | True. - If and only if phone speakers had actual bass | 15:45 |
| ruskie | don't have any sound listening tech at work really | 15:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | Why do I have the strange urge to do a review of a mango as a phone for youtube. | 15:47 |
| ruskie | rofl | 15:47 |
| ruskie | that would be an interesting review | 15:47 |
| MohammadAG | "So as you can see, I left it dismantled for a week, and it became rotten, we expect this to be due to prerelease software" | 15:48 |
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| SpeedEvil | I buy mangos monthly, and keep them in the fridge | 15:49 |
| SpeedEvil | last three weeks easily | 15:49 |
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| RST38h | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/ubuntu_11_10_beta_1_review/ <== Ubuntu gone | 16:02 |
| Arkenoi | looks ugly as hell^Wgnome3 | 16:04 |
| bindi | unusable PoS | 16:04 |
| MohammadAG | has the best repos, just install gnome 2 on top | 16:05 |
| hiemanshu | well if you use Ubuntu, I feel sorry for you | 16:06 |
| hiemanshu | they have X11 conf files in /usr/lib somewhere | 16:06 |
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| hiemanshu | /usr/local | 16:06 |
| bindi | there is no conf files | 16:06 |
| bindi | that's the fun part | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | Umm | 16:06 |
| hiemanshu | there is | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | that's been the case for Ubuntu and Fedora | 16:06 |
| hiemanshu | if you want to add custom stuff, there is | 16:06 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: Fedora? | 16:06 |
| bindi | right | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 16:06 |
| MohammadAG | it auto detects configuration | 16:06 |
| bindi | anyway I feel sorry for those who use linux as their desktop ´_` | 16:06 |
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| MohammadAG | you can use a config file in the default location | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | /etc/X11/Xorg.conf | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | xorg* | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | if that exists, it will use it | 16:07 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: not for ubuntu anymore | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | if you mess up the file, just mv/rm it, and it defaults back | 16:07 |
| MohammadAG | wrong | 16:07 |
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| MohammadAG | mohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~/lyricsmtf$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 16:08 |
| MohammadAG | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 16:08 |
| MohammadAG | it's 11.04 | 16:08 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Apparently they just kicked Gnome2 | 16:08 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: completely, I mean | 16:09 |
| RST38h | Not clear on Gnome3 | 16:09 |
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| * Arkenoi wonders what is attractive in g3 that much so people start COPYING it! | 16:10 | |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, afaik they kicked X11 in 11.10 | 16:10 |
| MohammadAG | Wayland FTW!!!1 | 16:10 |
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| bindi | everything is so complicated on linux :) | 16:11 |
| bindi | windows, it just works | 16:11 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Noooooooooooooooooooo.... | 16:11 |
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| MohammadAG | Windows just works? | 16:11 |
| Evanescence | Ctrl-I is same with Tab on N900. so which key is same with "Esc" on N900 ? I want to used in vim . | 16:11 |
| MohammadAG | hahahaa | 16:11 |
| MohammadAG | use :q | 16:11 |
| bindi | it does :> | 16:11 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: they are not copying g3. They (unity, g3, windows) are all copying ipad | 16:12 |
| bindi | :D | 16:12 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: Or, if you wish, Maemo4 hildon-desktop :) | 16:12 |
| MohammadAG | I wish they'd copy 5's | 16:12 |
| MohammadAG | hildon-desktop would be awesome on a tablet | 16:12 |
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| RST38h | Arkenoi: There is now a popular belief that users no longer work with documents on their computers, so they do not need a desktop | 16:13 |
| peetah | Evanescence: Ctrl-C behaves as Esc in vim | 16:13 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi; what they need is a task manager to let them switch between their music player, video player, online stores, and an ebook reader | 16:13 |
| RST38h | and web browser of course | 16:14 |
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| Evanescence | peetah: thanks | 16:14 |
| RST38h | hence all these task-manager based shells, and it will get worse with time | 16:14 |
| Arkenoi | what I hate most in g3 is that in dual monitor config one of monitors stays intact when i switch workspaces | 16:16 |
| Arkenoi | and second thing is that almost all settings are just GONE | 16:16 |
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| RST38h | Normal people do not need settings. Only freaks do. | 16:22 |
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| Jartza | where is unrar for maemo5? | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | apt-get install unrar | 17:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | probably tools repo, you should add that | 17:17 |
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| MohammadAG | no, devel | 17:17 |
| Jartza | I seem to be missing a repo | 17:17 |
| SpeedEvil | Though beware that thesea re not optified, and can do bad stuff to your device if you fill up / | 17:17 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 17:18 |
| Jartza | sure, I just wasn't aware of the repo it's in | 17:18 |
| cityLights | I used to have screen in the n800 | 17:18 |
| cityLights | but no more | 17:18 |
| Jartza | hmm. devel seems to be enabled | 17:18 |
| cityLights | can anyone pls build screen? | 17:19 |
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| jacekowski | cityLights: it's there | 17:19 |
| jacekowski | cityLights: in tools repo | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache search unrar | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | unrar-fm - A simple file-manager add-on to unrar files by clicking on them | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files | 17:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | screen - a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation | 17:20 |
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| Jartza | ahh. now it works. thx. | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | 500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Packages | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache policy unrar-free ->500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages | 17:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | generally http://maemo.org/packages/ is your friend | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | gets you to http://maemo.org/packages/view/screen-n900/ for example in a second | 17:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | same for unrar | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | admittedly it may take 0..20s if maemo.org has ointment day | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | 10..20 | 17:30 |
| Venemo_N950 | morning Doc! | 17:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hi Venemo_N950 | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | heard there's a new firmware for your n950 ;-P | 17:39 |
| Venemo_N950 | what's up? | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | gnhnhnhn | 17:39 |
| Venemo_N950 | wut? new firmware? where can I download? | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Nokia hid it at the same location where you previously got the "old" OCF | 17:41 |
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| Venemo_N950 | DocScrutinizer, or is this some kind of joke? | 17:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | not really | 17:42 |
| Venemo_N950 | hm, gimeealink! | 17:42 |
| Venemo_N950 | can I update ota? | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/latest.log.html#t2011-09-06T10:25:25 | 17:43 |
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| MohammadAG | what update? | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | the SEKRIT update | 17:45 |
| RST38h | update? update?!? | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N950 | hmm | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | OCF changed inadvertently | 17:46 |
| MohammadAG | so it's 22-6? | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N950 | DocScrutinizer, does it actually work? | 17:46 |
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| MohammadAG | makes me wonder if it breaks javispedro's break | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | some say it works, some (hiemansu) say if fails for them | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | nobody knows what'S the true diff | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N950 | DocScrutinizer, does it workforyou? | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: fair assumption | 17:47 |
| fiferboy | I reflash last night with the OCF, I don't see anything different offhand... | 17:47 |
| Venemo_N950 | also, wut's the version number? | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now | 17:47 |
| Venemo_N950 | mhm | 17:47 |
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| hiemanshu | fiferboy: whats the md5sum of it? | 17:49 |
| MohammadAG | <DocScrutinizer> Venemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now | 17:49 |
| MohammadAG | that's where aegis comes in | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | you'd think if Nokia doesn't advertise it, it's either been a fix for sth terribly embarrassing or a fix for a security vulnerability | 17:49 |
| MohammadAG | edit an aegis config, and you'll need a reflash right away | 17:49 |
| hiemanshu | DocScrutinizer: for i in *aegis*; do cat 'DIE BITCH DIE' > $i; done | 17:50 |
| hiemanshu | DocScrutinizer: that should do it for you :P | 17:50 |
| Venemo_N950 | fiferboy, wut's the version number? | 17:50 |
| fiferboy | hiemanshu, The flasher is on my home PC | 17:50 |
| RST38h | What is the version number, anyway? | 17:50 |
| hiemanshu | fiferboy: if its 88 something new, 1c something old | 17:50 |
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| fiferboy | 1.2011.22-6 in the about screen, that's the old one right? | 17:51 |
| hiemanshu | they are numbered the same | 17:51 |
| RST38h | sound slike the old one | 17:51 |
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| MohammadAG | oh oh oh I know | 17:52 |
| Venemo_N950 | 22-6 IS the old one | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | check About Device -> Warranty, maybe they made the joke funnier | 17:53 |
| fiferboy | same warranty message | 17:53 |
| Venemo_N950 | MohammadAG, "this device comes with no warranty"? | 17:53 |
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| Venemo_N950 | is it funnier? | 17:54 |
| MohammadAG | idk, haven't reflashed once yet | 17:54 |
| cityLights | ok I admit its been a while , since I used the maemo dbus | 17:54 |
| cityLights | I may need help to achive putting the N900 to call farwarding | 17:55 |
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| cityLights | need to mimike this: | 17:57 |
| cityLights | method call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate | 17:57 |
| cityLights | uint32 5 | 17:57 |
| cityLights | string "112233" | 17:57 |
| cityLights | uint32 20 | 17:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meh | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | why don't you use pnatd? | 17:59 |
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| cityLights | I want to run it via shell | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd bet I've seen a script using pnatd once | 18:01 |
| MohammadAG | it's a normal dbus message | 18:01 |
| MohammadAG | just use dbus-send | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no way to run pnatd other than in a shell btw - just to *quit* it is the trick | 18:01 |
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| cityLights | I had now idea what pnatd ment | 18:02 |
| cityLights | but I googled... | 18:02 |
| cityLights | ofono | 18:02 |
| cityLights | btw I shoudl add it to the wiki, as this is SO helpfull | 18:03 |
| cityLights | MohammadAG: hi there | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | eh? | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | pnatd is installed on maemo by default | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's a command shell directly to modem | 18:03 |
| cityLights | is there a wiki? | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | takes old fashioned AT commands | 18:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no, there's just google, and the links and cmdline quotes I pasted here for your some hours ago | 18:05 |
| cityLights | MohammadAG: if you can spare a min a tell me how to issue the dbus-send command for what I put | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | but of course dbus-send should probably work too, though has potential to get a real PITA | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | dbus-send --method-call com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="112233" uint32=20 | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | sth like that | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | see wiki phonecontrol for "templates" | 18:07 |
| cityLights | thanks | 18:07 |
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| cityLights | you are very helpfull | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | not really, as I'm tired. Sorry | 18:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Make_a_phone_call is a good template | 18:09 |
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| cityLights | dbus-send --type=method-call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="0731234567" uint32=20 | 18:11 |
| cityLights | Message type "method-call" is not supported | 18:11 |
| cityLights | err... | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | and damn sure it's welcome when you add that call forward dbus call there, once you figured how to write it and tested it | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | method_call, and uint32:20 | 18:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | otherwise it looks good | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | you quite probably don't need any " around the second path parameter | 18:14 |
| cityLights | dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20 | 18:14 |
| cityLights | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah that's where I got mad about this stuff | 18:14 |
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| MohammadAG | dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20 | 18:15 |
| MohammadAG | what about that? | 18:15 |
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| cityLights | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files | 18:16 |
| MohammadAG | dbus-send -system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20 | 18:16 |
| MohammadAG | err, --system | 18:16 |
| cityLights | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:2 | 18:17 |
| cityLights | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "usu" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist | 18:17 |
| MohammadAG | well, that's a better error | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | marginally better, yeah | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | this might mean the parameter list is wrong, or the function name doesn't exist on that interface | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | parameters are incorrect obviously | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | try lower case ss just in case | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | try the variants again | 18:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | where from are those variants? | 18:19 |
| cityLights | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20 | 18:19 |
| cityLights | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | also what's about "member=DivertActivate" | 18:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mdbus2 doesn't find any com.nikia.csd - no surprise as all those frigging broken dbus interfaces don't support introspection afaik | 18:22 |
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| cityLights | not true | 18:24 |
| cityLights | I also found this | 18:24 |
| cityLights | DBusMessage *msg = dbus_message_new_method_call("com.nokia.csd.SS", | 18:24 |
| cityLights | 232 "/com/nokia/csd/ss", | 18:24 |
| cityLights | 233 "com.nokia.csd.SS", | 18:24 |
| cityLights | 234 "DivertActivate"); | 18:24 |
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| cityLights | DocScrutinizer:https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g | 18:25 |
| cityLights | DBus introspection works for csd | 18:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | uhuh | 18:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | so tell me why mdbis2 throws "MDBUS2> com.nokia.csd com[ERR]: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files" | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | mdbus2 even | 18:26 |
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| cityLights | http://dpaste.com/609878/ | 18:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20 | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | Error com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.Generic: Invalid Parameter | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20 | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "DivertActivat" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd.SS" doesn't exist | 18:29 |
| cityLights | com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat<< is worse than >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate<< | 18:31 |
| cityLights | IroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:20 | 18:31 |
| cityLights | " | 18:32 |
| cityLights | IroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20 | 18:32 |
| cityLights | err | 18:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-09-06 17:24:45] <cityLights> 234 "DivertActivate"); | 18:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-09-06 16:57:25] <cityLights> method call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate | 18:33 |
| cityLights | I saw "DivertActivate in dbus-monitor | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | and it evidently is a known word | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | unlike DivertActivat | 18:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cityLights: anyway what's up with your pasted cmdlines above? | 18:35 |
| cityLights | these came from the dbus-monitpr | 18:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wut? >>dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:20<< for sure isn't a dbus-monitor output | 18:36 |
| cityLights | I ran bus-monitor --system destination=com.nokia.csd.SS | 18:37 |
| cityLights | and got | 18:37 |
| cityLights | method call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate | 18:37 |
| cityLights | uint32 5 | 18:37 |
| cityLights | string "112233" | 18:37 |
| cityLights | uint32 20 | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20 | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | Error com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.SS.General: CALL BARRED | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | SUCCESS | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | CALL BARRED means I'm not allowed to use that redirect destination | 18:38 |
| cityLights | YES | 18:39 |
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| cityLights | let me put it in the wiki now | 18:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | please remove the " around "/com/nokia/csd/ss" | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | useless | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | also some explaining words about what's the meaning of those uint32 would be great | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | 20 sounds like seconds until divert | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | I might be wrong | 18:41 |
| cityLights | true | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | NFC what 5 might mean | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | try 5 times and you'll win a toaster | 18:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hah, ircd7 upgrade | 18:43 |
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| cityLights | all done now | 18:47 |
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| blizzow | Is there a codec package for the n900 that allows me to play .mov files? | 19:31 |
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| * javispedro is going to say that this ( http://nokiatune.audiodraft.com/ ) should win worst idea of the year award | 19:37 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, Nokia Ninjas and black helicopters incoming. | 19:45 |
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| javispedro | GeneralAntilles, but c'mon, just hear any of them | 19:47 |
| javispedro | does anyone really envision any of them as your phone's bootup / ring tune | 19:47 |
| * javispedro would run away if my phone were to make such noise | 19:47 | |
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| javispedro | (maybe it's beause I'm shorting per facebook votes...) | 19:48 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, email this guy and tell him to join in http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :P | 19:51 |
| frals | wow that page did not have a volume control | 19:51 |
| frals | and jesus christ top one is bad | 19:51 |
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| javispedro | either way, the idea is bad in concept even, not only execution -- if you let one of the "epic" ones win, you alienate half of nokia's userbase. Choose the "jazz" one, and you alienate the other half. | 19:54 |
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| MohammadAG | I'd say include it in the phone but don't make it default | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | the N950 one is pretty good | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | gotta love how youtubers think it's a sea ray | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | it looks like an N9, it's curved, and it swipes into 2011 | 19:55 |
| javispedro | not _my_ youtubers, which usually PM me "$700. Sell or not?" | 19:56 |
| net-split | n950 hw is hilarious | 19:56 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, tell them to send the money first | 19:58 |
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| MohammadAG | qole was here?! | 19:59 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: same thought =) | 20:00 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 20:01 |
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| dRbiG | anyone figured out a way to tether n900 with win xp over bluetooth _without_ pc suite or other *crap*? | 20:26 |
| jacekowski | yeah | 20:28 |
| jacekowski | like any other phone | 20:28 |
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| dRbiG | i vageuely remember than when i was setting up this on my palm iii it involved some magic numbers the sort of *99** etc etc | 20:32 |
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| dRbiG | got it :) | 20:50 |
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