IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2011-09-01

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infobotaw, gee, DocScrutinizer00:47
DocScrutinizersecurity updates? o.O00:47
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* DocScrutinizer points at ~597 security warning notifications from adobe about *all* version of flash <${someversion > maemo's vesion}00:49
* DocScrutinizer fails to see any security update for flash, ever, on fremantle00:50
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DocScrutinizerLOL on quote and comment in
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Pali_hello, is there anybody who can help me with u-boot?02:04
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SpeedEvil'Hello Dear,02:09
SpeedEvilMy name is Lilian. i saw your email today at as  i was searching for a good friend, and i will like us to be friends.  therefore contact me with my email address ( so  that i will tell you more about me and also send you my pic as soon as  you contact me back.;02:09
SpeedEvilThat's novel.02:10
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DocScrutinizerdude, I was about to grab the banhammer :-P02:10
razzlezHello! I have a Nokia N900 Phone and while dowloading something via wlan at home my wlan crashes. the router is a TP-LINK TD-W8920G02:11
DocScrutinizerPali_: ask MohammadAG02:11
SpeedEvilrazzlez: you mean the wlan stops working totally, or it fails on the n900?02:12
razzlezSpeedEvil: the router crashes and restarts02:12
Pali_I have some news for n900 u-boot: I added support for on screen boot menu02:12
DocScrutinizeror what exactly was your question about uBoot?02:12
Pali_rebase patches on top of u-boot master02:13
DocScrutinizernfc, ask moh ;-D02:13
DocScrutinizerI thought uBoot always had support for onscreen menu?02:13
Pali_bootmenu like maemo multiboot: with cursor keys and configure actions02:14
DocScrutinizererr wut?02:14
Pali_it has menu entry like grub or lilo...02:14
DocScrutinizeryeah, it's in file boot.scr on first FAT partition02:15
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Pali_yes, but this is other02:15
Pali_but I added other patches02:15
Pali_fixed keymap, watchdog reset02:16
* DocScrutinizer afk02:16
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Pali_ping MohammadAG02:19
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DocScrutinizerwatchdog handling been implemented in uBoot since long time afaik. Needs enabling02:27
DocScrutinizerfixing keymap sounds like a really great thing (if it wasn't OK) - nothing is more annoying than a hw kbd that's useless as the mapping is broken or incomplete02:30
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DocScrutinizeruBoot's help cmd is a joke02:31
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Pali_watchdog, was only disabled. I added reset watchdog function (kick watchdog in every cca 2-3s)02:32
DocScrutinizermaybe with 2 words per line it would not scroll off the screen02:32
Pali_i tried to find problem why usbtty break kernel, but without success02:33
Pali_my current code is here: (based on old rx51 patches)02:34
DocScrutinizerhah, USB. the musb_hdrc driver is a nightmare and for sure doesn't fit into uBoot02:34
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Pali_usbtty - cdc_acm working fine, but when I booted maemo kernel, dsme start rebooting and I got always kernel panic (when device entered reboot state)02:36
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smharis there any maps system for N900 that supports turn by turn and voice ?04:45
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dungeon_archlsmhar:  3 of them mod***. a modified OVI04:56
dungeon_archlsmhar: and another I forgot04:56
smhargood news, thanks dungeon_archl04:57
dungeon_archlmodrana is the name of the app04:57
dungeon_archlwonder if cloudgps works.04:57
nox-smhar, also monav04:58
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smharcan they be used offline?05:01
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smharor do I need to be connected all the time?05:01
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dungeon_archlsmhar: you can try them, I used mappro not requiring connection but it have no voice - or I cannot find it05:03
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smharI will try them as soon as I get my replacement N900, I can not wait :-)05:04
nox-monav works offline05:05
nox-monav uses openstreetmap data tho which is not very complete in some places05:07
nox-(or very complete in others :)05:07
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dungeon_archlwhat else map can these community-made apps use? Only openstreetmap...05:11
nox-some can use googlemap tiles but i think not for routing...05:12
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JaffaMorning, all10:50
Sicelomorning Jaffa10:50
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xxxxtsAnyone here good with Desktop Command Exec Widget?12:50
xxxxtsI am having a bit of trouble getting it to show the output of a script...?12:51
andre__"good"? :)12:51
xxxxtsWell personally it confuses the heck outta me...12:51
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xxxxtsI just need it to display the output of a script, the temp fix script for Power 4812:52
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DocScrutinizerlo andre__12:59
DocScrutinizermorning jaffa, konttori13:00
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xxxxtshey doc13:24
xxxxtscan you help me out13:25
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DocScrutinizersorry nope, I dunno what I'm talking about13:35
crashanddiexxxxts, what do you mean "display the output of a script"?13:37
xxxxtsI have a script that displays the battery temp13:37
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crashanddieShadowJK, please don't use capitals in variable names under bash13:37
crashanddieyes, and?13:37
xxxxtsand i don't know how to make that appear in desktop command widget13:37
crashanddieI still don't see a question13:38
xxxxtswhat do i type into DCEW to get the output of the script?13:38
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xxxxtsdeskctop command exec widget13:39
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crashanddieor rather, if you install in /usr/local/bin, you can do directly scriptname.sh13:39
xxxxtsthat's what i thought13:40
xxxxtslet me try agian13:40
xxxxtsplease hold on one sec13:40
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xxxxtsit's in /usr/bin/13:41
xxxxtsand i put scriptname.sh13:41
xxxxtsinto the desktop exect widget13:41
xxxxtshowever it is just displaying the name13:41
xxxxtsnot the temp13:42
crashanddieis it executable?13:42
xxxxtswhen i run it in terminal13:42
xxxxtsyes it is13:42
xxxxtsit displays the temp fine13:42
xxxxtsbut i need to be root for soem reason13:42
crashanddieso in a shell  you can type ba27200_temp.sh13:42
crashanddieand it shows the output?13:42
xxxxtsyes, as root13:43
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crashanddiedo you have bash installed?13:43
xxxxtsi'm not sure13:43
crashanddietype bash in a shell13:44
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* DocScrutinizer just notes he knows that's not batery temp but bq27200 chip die temp, but MEH13:44
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crashanddiegood, so you have bash13:44
crashanddienow, instead of calling the script, how about you just call this: echo "Battery Gauge die Temperature: $(($(./i2cget -y 2 0x55 0x06 w) * 250 / 1000 - 273)) C"13:45
xxxxtsshould i attempt that in termal first13:46
DocScrutinizerthat at least would make it obvious this is NOT battery temp13:46
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DocScrutinizeralso it's quite obvious it needs i2cget13:47
DocScrutinizerand i2cget needs root perms13:47
DocScrutinizer./i2cget won't prolly fly13:47
xxxxtsi changed ./i2cget to simply /i2cget13:48
xxxxtsand i2cget is in /13:48
crashanddiethat's wrong on so many levels13:48
RST38hxxx: really?13:48
DocScrutinizerdouble \o/13:48
RST38hxxx:cool, man13:48
DocScrutinizerI'd place i2cget into /var/log/13:49
DocScrutinizerbut I dunno what I'm talking about13:49
xxxxtsit was having trouble locating i2cget with ./13:50
xxxxtsso i just changed it13:50
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xxxxtsit displays the temp perfectly now, however just echo "Battery Gauge die Temperature: $(($(./i2cget -y 2 0x55 0x06 w) * 250 / 1000 - 273)) C"13:50
xxxxtsgives me13:50
DocScrutinizeryou're aware I also dunno if your desktop runs under user root?13:51
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crashanddieDocScrutinizer, lmao13:52
DocScrutinizermeh, I *hate* the general policy of chanops not supposed to use /ignore13:52
crashanddieyeah well, suck on it.13:52
crashanddiexxxxts, does it work?13:52
DocScrutinizerit can't13:53
crashanddie[12:50:15] <xxxxts> it displays the temp perfectly now,13:53
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xxxxts# 34 C13:53
xxxxtsthat works13:53
DocScrutinizerid root13:53
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xxxxtsbut when i echo "Battery Gauge die Temperature: $(($(./i2cget -y 2 0x55 0x06 w) * 250 / 1000 - 273)) C"13:53
xxxxtsi jsut get >13:53
crashanddiedoes su -c work on maemo?13:53
crashanddieI don't have a device to test right here13:54
DocScrutinizer[2011-09-01 12:47:51] <DocScrutinizer> ./i2cget won't prolly fly13:54
DocScrutinizercrashanddie: nah13:54
crashanddieor sudo gainroot -c "/i2cget -y 2 0x55 0x06 w"13:54
DocScrutinizerthat's more like it13:54
xxxxtsi am losing you guys - i am not very advanced to say the least13:55
* DocScrutinizer hears RST38h falling off his chair from laughing13:55
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DocScrutinizeroh so how can you state such advanced claims like [2011-08-31 11:51:57] <xxxxts> I obviously came to the wrong place for advice because you obviously don't know what you're talking about13:57
xxxxtsI believe you are wrong13:58
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xxxxtsI researched the subject, consulted with a few buddies on mine13:58
crashanddieand I believe you're about to get your ass whooped from this channel13:58
xxxxtsjust because you are more addvanced than i am at Linux doesn't mean you are always correct13:58
xxxxtsbut your advice on ali1234 was sound, and thank you.13:59
DocScrutinizermeh, I already regret it13:59
crashanddieyeah, just ttry nnot tto mmiissppeell words when you're about to school people, yar?13:59
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xxxxtshaha, well i actually spoke with ali1234 prior to you, i just didn't know who he was.14:00
xxxxtsyou gave his advice a lot of validation, i assumed it could be done via boot.scr, i was mistaken14:00
xxxxtsand i apologize but i am not a very strong speller. NYU educated, can't spell for the life of me.14:01
DocScrutinizersorry I honestly doubt you even knew ali1234 before I fiast spoke to him, but honestly, this convo is a typical vampire, sucking my time I could spend on better things, so *plonk*14:01
crashanddiegoing to grab some food14:01
xxxxtsi have the logs14:01
xxxxtsthey are public14:01
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crashanddieDocScrutinizer, go ahead, ignore him, i'll take it from here.14:02
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xxxxtsi don't mean to fight or upset anyone - i am just curious to how to solve the problem i am currently having.14:03
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xxxxtsand since you guys are much more knowledable on the subject i was hoping you could help me out14:03
RST38hxxxxts: any advice you will get here assumes some basic knowledge of how Unix works14:04
DocScrutinizerJaffa: moo14:04
RST38hIf you have not got that background knowledge, most advice will be useless to you14:04
DocScrutinizeroops I said that before, today14:04
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xxxxtsI have a basic understanding of how a lot of things work14:05
xxxxtsI think I can manage14:05
xxxxtsi just didn't remember if I installed Bash onto my N900 or not14:05
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FIQ|n900try running it :D14:09
FIQ|n900if it doesn't work -- well, it's not installed14:09
xxxxtsi have bash on here14:10
xxxxtsi am just not very famuliar with that shell14:10
RST38hso what shell are you familiar with?14:10
FIQ|n900This touchbook hysteria resulted in it being 2nd (next to iPad) in that type of tablet.. wouldn't it make sense for commercial devs to try out developing for it? :P14:11
xxxxtsthe shell with the N900, ash14:11
DocScrutinizerRST38h: cmd14:11
xxxxtsi believe14:11
FIQ|n900as it has so few apps, but still a large userbase due to... yeah14:12
JaffaDocScrutinizer: baa14:14
RST38hxxxxts: I do think you should gain a bit more experience with Linux, preferably on a standard desktop system. Maybe read a few articles, you know...14:15
RST38hBefore you start messing with N900's internals, that is14:15
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* FIQ|n900 didn't have much experience with Linux pre-N90014:17
FIQ|n900i didn't even know what "ls" was14:17
xxxxtsI purchased the N900 the first day it was released, i have contributed a lot to the maemo community14:18
RST38hSo, what have you contriuted to the maemo community?14:18
FIQ|n900like what?14:18
* FIQ|n900 is slow as always14:19
xxxxtsI took part in the python port of QBasic Gorillas to the N90014:19
maraineinwe need worms14:19
xxxxtsI figured out a way for SmartCam to retrieve the data14:19
xxxxtsI never plaid worms14:20
xxxxtsMy user name on talk.maemo is xxxxts, feel free to look me up - I am not exactly a noob14:20
FIQ|n900in what way did you took part in it? :D14:20
cityLightsbtw, any news regarding when I can buy a N900 for 100$?14:22
xxxxtsI ran it - then others took over to improve it, because of my lack of knowledge in python.14:22
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RST38hSo let me clarify14:23
DocScrutinizercrashanddie: RST38h: FIQ|n900: - well it is actually quite a bit fuzzy (aah and for those that might have missed, MY nick on tmo is joerg_rw, you're free to look p my contributions, e.g. in the URL quoted <<- over here)14:24
RST38hYou have run QBasic Gorillas on the N900. And that is your contribution to the community?14:24
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DocScrutinizerbut as of xxxxts : [2011-08-31 11:51:57] <xxxxts> I obviously came to the wrong place for advice because you obviously don't know what you're talking about14:25
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xxxxtsDoc - you claimed I could not run uboot and multiboot at the same time. I am.14:25
DocScrutinizerI claimed it will conflict14:26
DocScrutinizerit does14:26
xxxxtsIt does not14:26
* RST38h sighs14:26
xxxxtsjust as long as you recompile the multiboot kernel with uboot14:26
RST38hxxxxts: Maybe you should stick with t.m.o for advice after all.14:26
RST38hxxxxts: Very hostile here, smartasses everywhere, you know...14:27
xxxxtsI am able to boot the MeeGo kernel and NITDroid14:27
chem|stRST38h: shutup!14:27
RST38hchem|st: what? =)14:27
DocScrutinizerhi chem|st14:28
FIQ|n900<marainein> we need worms14:28
FIQ|n900and xxxxts, what is the point in that?14:28
chem|sthi doc14:28
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xxxxtsWell personally, I love the N900 and I love Maemo 5 - best mobile device I have ever had. I have a little more knowledge than some people - thus I would like to go do this:
xxxxtsThus giving more information to people who are much more clueless than I am.14:29
xxxxtsSo I believe we are all working towards the same goal.14:29
DocScrutinizerPLEASE pretty please DO NOT14:29
chem|stxxxxts: you are nuts...14:29
chem|stthe script is giving output "in" the widget!14:29
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xxxxtschem|st - please elorbrate?14:30
DocScrutinizerchem|st: i2cget needs root perms14:30
chem|stxxxxts: the Desktop Command Execution Widget is giving the output of a script14:30
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chem|stwell then "root" the script?!14:31
DocScrutinizerRST38h's approach sudo gainroot -c was the only right approach14:31
* FIQ|n900 managed to get Hedgewars running on N900, but as he lacks developer skills he wrote on tmo what he did (not that much really, just a dirty run of Debian's version of it), hoping for others to see it and become interested and do a proper port of it.. none was D:14:31
xxxxtsI am able to run the script in root termal14:31
xxxxtshowever I am not able to get DCEW to give me the same output14:32
DocScrutinizerchem|st: though a "correct" approach was to add to etc/sudoers.d/*14:33
xxxxtsI would assume I just put in the little box bq27200_tmp.sh14:33
xxxxtsThe reason I am doing this is because Power 47 disabled bq27200 tempature readings hence this is the work around:
infobotDocScrutinizer meant: chem|st: though a "correct" approach was to add to etc/sudoers.d/*14:34
xxxxtsI was able to get it running in QueenBee but I perfer DCEW14:34
chem|stxxxxts: so much about your "advanced" knowledge^^14:34
DocScrutinizerchem|st: wasn't that you who said just 2 days ago "sometimes I'm urged to shout "STFU and leave it to somebody more savvy to answer"? (OWTTE)14:35
chem|stDocScrutinizer: some like that yes!14:36
SpeedEvilThe bq27200 does not produce usable temperature readings of the battery.14:36
xxxxtsI am much more proficent with linux than many N900 owners, I can see that obviously in the forms - however I am not nearly as knowledable as you fellas.14:36
SpeedEvilIt's outside the battery, and several millimeters away.14:36
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: I already stated that, several times14:36
SpeedEvilah - missed that.14:36
xxxxtsYes, we are all aware14:36
DocScrutinizernobody is interested in that minor detrail14:36
SpeedEvilShould probably in principle read backscroll.14:36
DocScrutinizerdetail aven14:36
chem|stDocScrutinizer: and s/o was slightly pissed^^14:36
xxxxtsI am just using that termonolgy14:37
DocScrutinizerbtw moo SpeedEvil :-)14:37
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chem|stxxxxts: I doubt you are... you might be a GNU superuser... or are willing to become one...14:38
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xxxxtsThat's fine - I am not here to debate my level of knowledge, I am here to solve a problem.14:39
chem|stDocScrutinizer: temp readings are anywhere far from real if build in hardware mm away from the source14:39
chem|stxxxxts: solved...14:39
xxxxtsAnd since everyone here (including myself) know that you are all FAR MORE ADCANCED than I in this subject I am asking you - what should I put into the DCEW box to make it show me a reading of tempature?14:40
chem|stto get your learning curve extrapolated on to enhancing knowledge... you want to run it as user, maybe with sudo... so get on to the CLI and try to get it working as "user"14:42
xxxxtsi do not believe i2cget can be ran as user14:43
crashanddiethat's probably why he's talking about sudo14:44
crashanddiesomething that I offered about an hour ago14:44
chem|stcrashanddie: moo!14:44
xxxxtslet me experment...14:44
chem|stcrashanddie: make him learn... I am close to lmgtfy14:44
RST38hAre "GNU superuser" and "cattle herder" the same thing?14:44
DocScrutinizerDCEW->setup->add_command->title:"show BS 'battery temp' value"; Command:"sudo gainroot -c"14:45
chem|stRST38h: some alike14:45
chem|stDocScrutinizer: NOOOOOOO.... ;)14:45
DocScrutinizerchem|st: you know I don't know what I'm talking about ;-P14:45
xxxxtsGOT IT!14:46
chem|stDocScrutinizer: was more about "DONT TELL HIM!"14:46
crashanddiexxxxts, now scroll back, and find the line where I gave that exact command14:46
crashanddienow stfu and gtfo14:46
DocScrutinizercouldn't stand it any longer14:46
chem|stDocScrutinizer: no experience in telling someone14:46
chem|stDocScrutinizer: I know....14:46
xxxxtsNo, I understand - I am sorry I am slow on the pickup with Linux14:46
chem|stxxxxts: you degraded to $user btw14:47
crashanddies/slow .*/slow/14:47
chem|stcrashanddie: don't be mean!14:48
crashanddiewhat? I'm not mean14:48
crashanddieThe regexes are!14:48
crashanddieDon't code perl if you can't HANDLE THE TRUTH!14:48
DocScrutinizerwhat really scares me is ""[2011-08-31 11:51:57] <xxxxts> I obviously came to the wrong place for advice because you obviously don't know what you're talking about""14:49
crashanddieyes, doc, we've seen that14:49
crashanddienow just let it be14:49
chem|st~xxxxts is "[2011-08-31 11:51:57] <xxxxts> I obviously came to the wrong place for advice because you obviously don't know what you're talking about"14:49
infobotokay, chem|st14:49
DocScrutinizeroops nope, my fault14:49
RST38hHe was right14:50
DocScrutinizerthis: ""[2011-09-01 13:29:09] <xxxxts> Thus giving more information to people who are much more clueless than I am.""14:50
RST38h50% right, anyway14:50
chem|stlove both14:50
DocScrutinizer~forget xxxxts14:51
infoboti forgot xxxxts, DocScrutinizer14:51
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DocScrutinizersometimes I love her ;-D14:52
crashanddieI know I shouldn't say that in here, like that14:52
chem|st~love infobot14:53
infobotIf you love infobot so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)14:53
xxxxts - Haha, thanks guys.14:53
chem|st~marry infobot14:53
crashanddiebut sometimes I wish my girlfriend would just react the same way when I tell her "tilde forget about <insert something here>"14:53
DocScrutinizer~attack chem|st14:53
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing chem|st14:53
crashanddie~rape DocScrutinizer14:53
* infobot takes DocScrutinizer behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams14:53
chem|st~trout crashanddie14:54
* infobot slaps crashanddie around a bit with a large trout!14:54
crashanddie~nuke ch14:54
* infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at ch ... B☢☢M!14:54
crashanddietab pwned :(14:54
crashanddieI just nuked switzerland, fuck.14:54
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DocScrutinizertime for 12648430   ☕14:55
chem|st~hail slaten14:55
* infobot bows down to slaten and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"14:55
DocScrutinizerwtf is slaten?14:55
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chem|st10 times worldchampion surfer14:55
chem|stif you look for impersonated awesomeness it is him14:56
crashanddiekarma for DocScrutinizer14:56
DocScrutinizer~sudo make me a coffee14:56
crashanddie~karma for DocScrutinizer14:56
infobotfor docscrutinizer has neutral karma14:56
crashanddie~karma DocScrutinizer14:56
infobotdocscrutinizer has karma of 214:56
chem|st~karma crashanddie14:56
infobotcrashanddie has neutral karma14:56
crashanddieWHAT? NO!!!!14:57
chem|st~karma crashanddie14:57
infobotcrashanddie has neutral karma14:57
DocScrutinizerdon't mess with karma please14:57
crashanddieBecause karma's a bitch? <drumroll>14:57
fluxor it'll come and bite you into ass!14:57
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DocScrutinizerit always ruins a channel's S/N *completely*14:57
crashanddiebite into the ass?14:57
xxxxtsI am going to work on my next project in a few hours. I will be back to ask you guys noob questions.14:57
crashanddieWhat kind of euphemism is that?14:58
crashanddiethat was a "project"?14:58
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chem|st"work on my next project"..."will be back to ask you guys noob questions" is like you figure out what to give us as new project for you becoming $superuser14:59
xxxxtsI am just doing little tweaks, the next thing on my agenda is to max out the volume on my N900 on boot14:59
chem|stxxxxts: you do not want that14:59
chem|stI mean booting...14:59
xxxxtsvol at 100% why not?14:59
chem|stbooting is the wrong approach14:59
crashanddieAlright partner, keep on trollin' baby, you know what time it is...14:59
xxxxtsWhy is that the wrong approach?15:00
xxxxtsI like to have my speaker phone, phone, and main volume all at 100% when it is not on silent.15:01
chem|st14:00:58 up 121 days, 155115:01
xxxxtsWhen my N900 is in my pocket the rocker keys get pressed and since they have portrate and landscape now15:01
xxxxtsit is a bitch to adjust15:01
xxxxtsI don't know enough about dbus15:02
xxxxtsto get it to set like that15:02
crashanddieChocolate starfish, keep on trollin' baby... Now move in and move out, hands up now hands down, back up, back up, tell me whatcha gonna do now! Breath in now breath out, hands up now hands down, back up, back up, tell me whatcha gonna do now...15:02
crashanddieKeep trollin', trollin', trollin, trolling (x4)15:02
chem|sttelll me watcha gonna do when they come for you15:02
xxxxtsWhat would you suggest besides boot, I reboot every 24hrs or so...15:03
chem|stxxxxts: for what? draining your battery?15:03
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chem|st121 days ago I reset my battery...15:04
xxxxtsSwitching batteries actually15:04
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crashanddiechem|st, Now I know ya'll be lovin this shite right har, P.I.M.P XTS is right here, people in the chan with them hands in the air, cause if you don't care, then we don't care15:04
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chem|st"I'm not afraid!"(tm)15:06
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crashanddieDid I just get a first post on Slashdot?15:10
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RST38hare you happy about getting a post on Slashdot?15:12
mujtabaMaybe that would prevent the 3D headaches15:12
mujtabaOr maybe it will make them worse15:12
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chem|stcrashanddie: I want HUD on my glasses and not some freaking helmet!15:13
mujtabaNeckache FTW15:14
RST38htoo wimply for a cranial implant? B)~15:14
crashanddieRST38h, I'm happy about getting my second ever first post on /.!15:15
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RST38hcrashanddie: you think being happy about posting to /. is a good thing?15:15
chem|stRST38h: there is guy with a cam-eyeball doing documentary stuff for deus ex(tm) and others...15:15
RST38hyea, but it is not connected to his brain unfortunately15:16
crashanddieRST38h, sure, why not?15:16
crashanddieRST38h, hey, I'll take any moment of happiness I can ;)15:16
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mujtabaBut the question is15:16
mujtabaWILL IT BLEND?15:16
Siceloxxxxts: should be able to change battery without reboot... these same guys here made it possible ;)15:17
chem|stmujtaba: yes it will!15:17
chem|stRST38h: that will come too15:18
RST38hJapanese have just got soe good dope:
chem|stRST38h: it is actually possible already15:18
RST38hyea, albeit with low resolution15:19
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chem|stwho cares about resolution? see something!15:20
RST38hlike...a black spot?15:20
RST38ha gray spot maybe?15:20
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kevin_bHello Arm hackzor15:25
kevin_bI'm trying to build Qt on device :p15:26
kevin_bactually I just want the doc15:26
crashanddieIs it noob day?15:26
kevin_bI want to make a pocket qt-assistant15:26
kevin_banyway, ./configure just return 'Don't seem you have make or gmake'15:27
kevin_bthough I do, it's a qole SDK image chrootedd15:27
kevin_bdunt understand15:28
chem|stcrashanddie: \o/ noob day \o/15:28
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chem|stNO where is the GTFO for nitdroid stuff?15:29
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DocScrutinizerchem|st: javispedro thought it might be worth nuking it15:32
DocScrutinizerthen 3 days later there was xxxxts, with "why doesn't uBoot boot my meego I changed to coexist with multiboot and andridiot? HPL PLZ!!1!1!"15:33
chem|stDocScrutinizer: ?15:33
DocScrutinizerI survived #maemo and all I got was15:34
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED15:34
crashanddietbh, when in amsterdam for the maemo summit, when Quim started handing out the t-shirts to the QA/bugs guys?15:35
crashanddiewith the "fixed in fremantle" on it?15:35
crashanddieI wanted to go out and print another t-shirt:15:36
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crashanddie"I helped Nokia fix their OS and all I got was this shite t-shirt"15:36
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DocScrutinizer2011-08-28 04:43:14 DocScrutinizer sets topic to....15:36
chem|stcrashanddie: you got a t-shirt too?15:36
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chem|stI got a suite up ovi shirt for alpha testing ovi suite15:38
crashanddieBut then again, the t-shirt was nice15:38
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crashanddielcuk had his finger butchered at Nokia HQ15:39
crashanddie"We'll give you a touch-driven device, but we'll take your finger in exchange."15:39
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RST38hnot butchered, augmented15:40
RST38hthey installed their patented happiness generator there, so lcuk only needs to suck on his finger to get happy now!15:41
crashanddieI'd have it installed somewhere else15:41
crashanddie"C'mon hon, just do it and we'll both feel happy"15:41
RST38hcrashanddie: wouldn't it be awfully difficult to reach though?15:41
crashanddiethat's the whole point, I wouldn't be reaching for it :P15:42
lcuki only notice my finger now when making a coffee15:42
crashanddieyour finger is able to produce coffee?15:42
crashanddieThat's an odd side effect15:42
lcukno but picking up the sugar jar is noticable15:42
lcukotherwise having a stylus implanted was a good thing15:43
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* DocScrutinizer just noticed PR1.2 HAM is completely fscked up now15:44
RST38h*just* noticed?15:44
DocScrutinizerwell, *completely*15:44
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RST38hI stopped using it, too slow15:44
RST38hespecially after moving indices to the sd card15:44
RST38hnot sd, mmc, sorry15:45
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lcukRST38h, compounded by -devel repositories including every build ever15:45
RST38hthat too15:46
RST38hBut X-Fade is the person to take care of this15:47
RST38hI wonder why he is not cleaning things up15:47
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lcukprobably because he is very busy15:47
DocScrutinizerstart HAM [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], clicking on "downloads" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], clicking on "all" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], select "search" from menu, add a search string, click "OK" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], you find yourself back to "uninstall|download|update"15:47
RST38hbusy with what?15:48
X-FadeRST38h: It does clean up automatically.15:48
lcukDocScrutinizer, this conversation was useful a year ago15:48
RST38hX-Fade: Then what lcuk says is untrue?15:48
DocScrutinizerI just wonder how it could fsckup during the time when PR1.3 was the recent thing15:48
X-FadeRST38h: What did he say?15:49
lcukRST38h, the devel repository even if cleaned up still contains a great many items15:49
RST38hX-Fade: He is saying extras-devel contains every single version of every package ever uploaded15:49
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RST38hOr something ot this effect, anyway15:49
X-FadeRST38h: That is not true.15:50
* RST38h checks with a browser, finds that it is INDEED not true15:50
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X-FadeRST38h: It only keeps the last 2 or 3 versions. Everything older gets removed. (Except for the sources)15:50
lcukRST38h, the advice wrt HAM has always been include only the repositories required15:50
lcukand extra ones slow it down muchly15:50
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RST38hlcuk: -devel is required, has been for a long while now15:50
X-FadeThe idea of adding things like icons to the Packages file, just doesn't scale.15:51
RST38hmany packages exist exclusively in devel15:51
DocScrutinizeranyway "checking for updates" several times during a session that doesn't install nor uninstall nor update anything, that's truely odd15:51
RST38hapt-get to the rescue.15:52
lcuksure RST38h and it already has workarounds and best case possible but unles you want to modify ham and include in cssu there isn't much that can be done?15:52
X-FadeThe problem is the Debian way of presenting repositories.15:52
X-FadeAnd on top of that HAM ;)15:52
X-FadeIn Debian I also see 12MB Packages files, which is just not what you want.15:53
marmouteX-Fade: what's the issue with "the Debian way of presenting repositories"15:53
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X-Fademarmoute: The dependency info should be separate from the actual info you use to browse.15:54
lcukmarmoute, in an embedded environment the indexes are always going to be non-trivial15:54
X-FadeSo it doesn't need to process a huge text file.15:54
lcukX-Fade, that is actually a good idea15:54
lcukclient side beyond the download15:54
marmouteMaemo package include icons in the index file which is a non-sense15:54
lcukprocess it to generate usable simple tree15:55
X-Fadelcuk: Hence the apps client :)15:55
X-Fademarmoute: Yes, but even description, maintainer etc.15:55
X-Fademarmoute: That is all meta data, which should not be processed every time.15:55
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lcukX-Fade, :D I uploaded a mandelbrot generator to maemo recently15:55
lcukafter spending the weekend faffing with xfractint on meego15:55
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RST38hlcuk: afaik ham is not open15:56
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lcukRST38h, happily it is open
RST38hlcuk: yoooooo....16:01
RST38hDoc: See?16:01
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RST38hWhat a lovely, pleasant man...16:01
DocScrutinizerRST38h: what? HAM open? I knew, I already had a look at sources and found some rather fishy code around moving forth and back some "last-updated" tag file16:04
RST38hfix it then16:05
DocScrutinizerI think there's been a dialog between me and iirc javispedro about it on this chan, some weeks/months ago16:05
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kevin_bwhy you think it is idiot to try to get qtdoc build on n900?16:07
kevin_bor maybe I should'nt take the "\o/ Noob day " for myself16:08
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erbis there a dev metapackage? libtool deps are "not installable"16:15
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erbive had reasonable luck using debian squeeze armel packages in general. but dev tools sound a bit iffy16:15
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erboh right this Diablo SDK repo16:19
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erbhopefully autotools 2005-04-22 int too old16:20
erbmaybe it's time i try debian again. running into alot of other issues w/ outdated stuff. git in maemo wouldnt clone from 1.7.6 on arch linux. pulseaudio wont' talk to one in sid/ubuntu anymore over network, etc16:20
erbNokia is 2nd most insane company behind HP16:21
erbjust know if i update pulseaudio to sid's i'll break telephony or something16:21
erband i go straight Sid on boot i'll rpaobly break GPS, maybe wifi, etc16:21
erbwhats the answer. buy a n950 and run Meego?16:22
erbsaurik's toolchain on iOS is actualy pretty good. thats proably the best of all worlds. it even has apt-get and gcc and libtool, unlike my poor maemo16:22
erbiphone5 proably in my future:/16:23
* RST38h seriously considering buying a Samsung Note16:23
erblast time i cp -av'd 2.6.28 kernel and modules stuff from Maemo before installing Sid16:23
RST38hIf it is hackable and reasonably cheap of course16:24
erband that mostly worked, but of course all the telephony and a few drivers / firmwares were fubar16:24
erbMaemo is pretty much perfection. X, GTK. debian-based16:24
erbthat battery charging i2c script on pancake's site was screwy too16:25
erband copying bme-5.1 util or wahtever and LD_LIBRARY's its maemo deps acted odd as well. tho it generally16:25
erbsorta made the lights flash more in line with what maemo does16:25
* erb wonders about Rasterman's Samsung X/DBus/Linux post. by all accoutns Samsung is big on Android, and has BAda for their symbian stuff. 16:27
erbmaybe theyre planning on replacing BAda eventually, and coming up with a N900/Openmoko replacement worthy of the title16:27
DocScrutinizerRST38h: I guess it was around
erbimo theyre just keeping it as some 3rd of 4th-tier back-burner option16:27
RST38hDoc: I remember people loudly bitchign about HAM being closed16:28
RST38hnot any more, apparently16:28
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RST38hDoc: could you humor me by telling the firmware version in your n950?16:29
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RST38hsomeone is asking me about it, but I do not have n950 handy16:30
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vi__checked in n90016:34
vi__got a n8 back16:34
RST38hiwillnotreadgalaxynotereviews ... iwillnotreadgalaxynotereviews ...iwillnotreadgalaxynotereviews ...16:34
vi__got an e716:34
vi__that sucka is going sstrait on ebay.16:34
RST38hvi: argued some more... got a suggestion to screw yourself?16:34
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RST38hBTW, I have seen a new N900 in a store yesterday. RUR1300016:35
vi__No, i stopped at e716:35
vi__Im just going to sell it for monies and cut my losses.16:35
RST38hvi: Do upgrade to Anna, at least. E7 is not a bad phone.16:35
vi__RST38h: BRO! I still have my BACKUP N900!16:36
RST38hvi: hehe :)16:36
vi__I was tempted, but then I considered the lack of flexibility of phone OS'es16:37
vi__I cannot go back16:37
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vi__I need vim, xterm, sed, awk and grep to get me through the day.16:38
DocScrutinizervi__: fair enough16:39
DocScrutinizertrue find-utils16:39
infobotmessy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils16:40 you wrote that BB summary then?16:40
vi__I in fact quite like busybox16:40
DocScrutinizerRST38h: firmware version of N950? WTF? how an I supposed to know?16:40
vi__and have enjoyed finding ways to overcome 'ash's shortcomings16:41
erbGHC merged ARM support. i'll port my bash scripts to hs16:41
vi__So you all happy with your N950s then?16:41
erbis it's flash fast? basic IO operations are 10-100x faster on ipad than n90016:41
vi__Coding away for no-one without pesky users to hold you back with gay complaints about...16:41
DocScrutinizerhaven't touched it for days16:41
vi__gui's and 'features'16:42
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DocScrutinizeryoh javispedro16:42
DocScrutinizerwhat's been that weird nonsense about HAM looking for an old "last-updated" tag file?16:43
DocScrutinizerdo you recall?16:43
vi__DocScrutinizer: why is everyone so excited about extending the range of the FM transmitter down to 76MHz when practically no-one has a receiver for that frequency?16:43
DocScrutinizervi__: eh?16:43
javispedroDocScrutinizer: that's for automatic background apt-get update aka update checking16:43
erbevery mp3 player has a 'Japan' locale setting which does 76-9016:43
DocScrutinizerwho's excited, where, and on which platform?16:43
erbany japan made shortwave / fm radio has it too16:43
jacekowskin900 can do all frequencies16:44
erbany chinese-made shortwave radio as well really, Tecsun / Degen stuff16:44
jacekowskiwith my modifications16:44
vi__Wow, that is cool...for japan.16:44
jacekowskinot exactly16:44
DocScrutinizervi__: yeah, listen to jacekowski16:44
erbthat Silabs chip does 64-108 i think16:45
chem|sterb: you got an ipad?16:45
erbold russian recievers can rx that band16:45
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erbhave used an ipad16:45
erbbasic ops like.. apt-get update are SOooo much faster on it16:45
erbi dono if its ext2, a bad flash driver, or just slow flash, but n900 is basucaly unusable16:46
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: ooh! I just have PR1.2(!) HAM acting up doing "checking for updates" like on every second click16:46
chem|sterb: you are doing something wrong16:46
jacekowskivi__: lot of radios can do 87MHz or so16:46
erbapt-get upgrade takes like 5 hours to run and n900 overheats16:46
javispedroDocScrutinizer: that's not background :)16:46
vi__Is there a good sound spectrum analyser/oscilloscope that exists/can be easily proted to maemo?16:46
jacekowskivi__: but nobody transmists on that frequencies16:46
javispedroDocScrutinizer: and I think that's standard behaviour16:46
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DocScrutinizernot THAT way16:46
erbchem|st: i even didnt use loopback fs in a file its right on dev/mmc0blk0 or wahtever16:46
chem|sterb: application manager is slow yes, apt-get update is as slow or as fast as with my desktop..16:46
DocScrutinizerstart HAM [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], clicking on "downloads" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], clicking on "all" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], select "search" from menu, add a search string, click "OK" [checking for updates... (takes 5min)], you find yourself back to "uninstall|download|update"16:47
erbchem|st: on maemo it is ok. im talking in a chroot or booted into debian16:47
erbwhich, if maemo wasnt basically 'abandoned' and if nokia got over proprietary firmwares/drivers and gave everything to vanilla, wouldnt be a prob cuz i could jsut use Sid. but hey, world aint perfect..16:47
chem|sterb: you are nuts16:47
erbwell, FS operaetions are *really* slow in a Chroot or booted into sid. i wish i knew why16:48
erbjust beacuse you doesnt experience it doesnt make me nuts16:48
erbim thinking sid picks the wrong driver for the device, some sort of generic IDE vs DMA-accel UDMA66 type eal that used to happen on desktops16:48
erband chroot proably just introduces syscall overhead16:49
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DocScrutinizererb: apt-get upgrade is DEPRECATED and notorious to break your system anyway16:49
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erbnot dist-upgrade16:49
erbreally apt-get upgrade is deprecated? wow16:50
chem|sterb: or just that a "normal" install of debian is so much bloat you would experience the same on any 1998 desktop...16:50
erbso use the GUI package manager only?16:50
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DocScrutinizererb: first of all apt-get doesn't know how to move the temporary and database files to some sane location, where "sane" means eMMC where's just enough free space. So apt-get upgrade is likely to just fail on out-of-storage AIUI16:54
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RST38hrm_work: here?16:54
rm_workRST38h: there16:55
erb4.72s for untar 23.7mb archive of 1094 files on Maemo, 0.2s on ipad16:55
RST38hrm_work: looks like that nokia repo does not index16:55
erbonly 25x slower16:55
RST38hrm_work: probably needs harmattan/sdk for path16:55
RST38hrm_work: see full list here:
RST38hit has the correct deb line for harmattan-dev among other things16:56
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rm_workstill not working16:58
rm_workcan't get to it in a browser either...16:58
RST38hwhat a mess...ok, let us see...16:59
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RST38hrm_work: replace harmattan/sdk with harmattan-beta, see if it works17:00
rm_worki mean17:00
rm_workif you can get me a path that works in the browser17:00
rm_worki can make it work17:00
rm_workotherwise... :/17:01
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RST38h works in the browser17:01
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RST38hhow does apt manage to access it???17:03
DocScrutinizerwhat's "harmattan"? ;-P17:04
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DocScrutinizermight that be related to #harmattan ?17:05
javispedroRST38h: traditionally on Maemo apt has been patched to send some hardcoded HTTP credentials17:07
javispedrono idea if that's still the case, but I wouldn't be surprised17:07
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RST38hin any case, I am unable to find Packages.gz or even /dists/ dir on
RST38hWeird stuff17:08
rm_workyeah i still don't know if this is doable17:09
rm_worksorry RST38h :/17:09
rm_worki mean, i know it IS doable somehow17:09
rm_workbut not this easily17:09
javispedroyou could grab the files from your device17:09
massoudHi there, i am trying to play mp4 video files on my n900 but cant get the right package to do that, any hints ?17:09
javispedro(I mean the Packages.gz)17:09
javispedroand upload them to packrat once17:09
javispedroI mean, they're not going to change much :)17:09
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rm_workjavispedro: it clears the entire db every update17:09
rm_workit's not doing deltas17:09
rm_worki guess i could hack it up...17:10
javispedrorm_work: file:// URI ? ;)17:10
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rm_worki don't think it'd work17:10
rm_workwithout major code hacks17:10
javispedroah well :(17:10
rm_workit'd still be looking in the wrong spot17:10
rm_workmassoud: i'm sure mplayer could do it17:11
jacekowskimassoud: it depends on codecs17:11
jacekowskimassoud: n900 can play only one type of h26417:12
rm_work^^^^ this17:12
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jacekowskimassoud: and if it doesn't work then it won't work17:12
rm_workwell, the first bit, not the second17:12
rm_worksince mplayer will play anything basically :P17:12
rm_workbut it does depend on codecs if you want it to work in the builtin media player17:12
rm_workdid n900 have hardware decoding support for h264?17:12
jacekowskiotherwise it will be a slideshow17:13
rm_workwow, i was thoroughly unaware of that17:13
rm_worki encoded all my videos with xvid17:13
jacekowskin900 can't even play normal xvid17:13
rm_workand they worked fine17:13
jacekowskiin software17:13
jacekowskiit's all done using hardware decoders17:13
rm_workit does though17:13
jacekowskiusing dedicated hardware decoder17:13
rm_worki used mplayer17:13
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rm_workso mplayer does it all in software17:14
jacekowskimplayer for n900 can use hardware decoders17:14
rm_worknot AFAIK17:14
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, ping17:14
jacekowskirm_work: it can17:14
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rm_workmplayer shouldn't even know about the hardware decoders17:14
rm_workunless someone wrote a patch for it17:15
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jacekowskirm_work: exactly17:15
jacekowskirm_work: anything not on that list is not hardware accelrated and all you will get is a slideshow17:16
jacekowskisome stuff on that list is not accelerated17:16
rm_workerr, what does this have to do with mplayer?17:17
jacekowskirm_work: mplayer is using same codecs17:17
rm_workor is it just so i have a list of what hardware decoder supports17:17
rm_workmplayer uses codecs from ffmpeg trunk17:17
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* javispedro sighs at a firefox bug that causes it some times to send a HTTP header saying my language is "chr" (aka Cherokee)17:17
jacekowskiand ffmpeg has support for hardware acceleration on arm17:18
rm_workso you're saying this should work OOTB?17:18
rm_workif i compile mplayer/ffmpeg from svn/git17:18
rm_workit should just work?17:18
rm_workbecause i can verify 100% that isn't true :P17:19
javispedroffmpeg does neon only17:19
javispedroaiui it does not use the omap ImagVideoAccelerator for anything17:19
rm_workthe tests i ran on my own compiled versions of ffmpeg/mplayer show it using CPU for decoding17:20
rm_workmaybe i didn't have the codecs quite right on the videos? :/\17:20
rm_workit's possible17:20
DocScrutinizercherokee - BWAHAHA17:21
rm_workunfortunately the only platform i have recent data for is N95017:21
rm_workon N950, it DEFINITELY doesn't use hardware decoders in mplayer17:21
DocScrutinizeron N950 you'll DEFINITELY have to argue with aegis why you dare to even ask for hw accel access ;-P17:23
rm_worksame video file runs at ~20% CPU total on hires x264, and in mplayer it's pegging the CPU at 10017:23
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rm_workgood point DocScrutinizer, maybe it COULD use the hw accel, but aegis is blocking it because i didn't set up the mplayer package right17:23
rm_worki wonder...17:23
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rm_workyou can tell what it tries to access in one of the logs right?17:24
rm_worksyslog or dmesg or something?17:24
DocScrutinizershould tell sth17:24
rm_workwhich one17:24
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DocScrutinizeraegis likes to mutter some cryptic shit to syslog17:24
javispedroDocScrutinizer: best part about that firefox bug is getting the google page in cherokee -- one of the few sites that seems to actually have a chr version17:25
javispedroon the good side, this bug is probably skewing someone's www statistics with a rather large number of ... cherokee speakers...17:25
DocScrutinizerI darn would like to see that :-D17:26
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DocScrutinizerwww.gogle.chr ?17:26
DocScrutinizergoogle even17:26
javispedroDocScrutinizer: you can force it to chr via preferences17:27
javispedroDocScrutinizer: note: I do not know how "English" is written in Cherokee.17:27
javispedrotherefore, when this bug is triggered, I cannot go back to English..17:27
DocScrutinizerwould a LANG=CHR_chr do?17:28
javispedroall I can do is clear cookies, close sessions, and restart browser17:28
javispedroDocScrutinizer: maybe17:28
javispedroincidentally they say the root cause of this bug is that the word "chrome" as in "chrome:///blablabla" starts with "chr".17:28
javispedros/root cause/cause17:28
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rm_workmplayer *is* failing some Aegis cred checks17:32
rm_workhow do i fix that17:33
DocScrutinizeranyway I guess you'd see better support/comments on that in #harmattan17:33
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saberclawhey there room17:39
saberclawgot a question to ask17:40
saberclawdoes n900 support windows ?17:40
jacekowskiit's ARM17:40
jacekowskiwindows doesn't run on ARM17:40
erbwin8 runs on ARM i think17:40
erband Win Mobile17:40
jacekowskithat's different thing17:41
jacekowskiand win8 is not even released yet17:41
erbWinNT ran on PPC, MIPS, Alpha..17:41
erbproably ARM too17:41
erbback in 90s you could find CD images of it on usenet17:41
erbwikpiedia still lists those arches on (no ARM tho)17:42
erbvirtualbox run on maemo?17:43
jacekowskierb: no17:43
jacekowskierb: virtualbox is x86 only17:43
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buphey thanks for your work on chromium btw17:45
bupand.. that FM hack. which seemed to break for me and get "stuck" on 7617:45
jacekowskinobody else had that problem17:45
bupproably an upgrade overwrote a module or so17:46
bupno big deal17:46
jacekowskithere are two different versions17:46
jacekowskione for 1.2 and other one for 1.317:46
jacekowski1.2 uses modified kernel module17:46
jacekowski1.3 is just replacing fmtxd17:46
bupi added but don't see it17:47
bupto /etc/apt/sources.list17:47
jacekowskiit was never packaged17:47
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saberclawhey any clue whr i can learn a bit about arm architecture?17:49
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chem|stjacekowski: just replace the binary and go?17:50
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bup"unable to use FM transmitter" unless i leave it at 7617:57
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bupwhich works fine, cuz i have a 76mhz capable reciever, but weird17:57
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bupfmtxd: ERROR: Failed to get the primary well-known name. (RequestName result != 1)18:02
jacekowskihmm, do you have fmtx faker?18:02
jacekowskior something like that18:03
jacekowskior other fmtxd running18:03
bupi tried adding an /etc/hosts entry18:03
bupcuz what else would well-known name mean18:03
jacekowskiit's dbus thing18:03
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bindiis it hard to make widgets? :p18:04
bindimade a bash script and i'd like to widgetify that18:04
chem|stDesktop Command Execution Widget18:05
bupif i twiddle the CP (set 76.7 ) it errors but fmtxd stays running, cuusing that error18:05
bupand it's running on 76 just fine18:05
bindichem|st: right, i'll see into that18:05
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chem|stjacekowski: anything else regarding problems? I have the boost installed and use one of the widgets to start and tune18:09
jacekowskibup: it's dbus thing18:09
chem|sthave no stereo to test atm18:09
bup2 diff errors though18:09
bupprimary well-known was if already running18:09
bup"unable to use fmtx" seems unrelated18:10
jacekowskichem|st: you don't need boost with my fmtxd18:10
bupare userspace utils also required, like fmtx-faker?18:10
jacekowskibup: no18:10
jacekowskibup: there is commandline fmtx client18:10
jacekowskicheck what exact error is that going to give you w18:10
jacekowskiwhen you try to set it to 100MHz or so18:10
chem|stjacekowski: but it wont collapse with it will it?18:11
bupfmtx_client: ERROR: Unable to set frequency (Frequency is not currently allowed)18:11
bupit throw that on anything besides 7600018:11
buper above 8800018:11
chem|stjacekowski: have you experienced a range extend with headphones in?18:11
bupi guess thats a "Feature"18:11
bupyou realize the SILabs chip can do 64-76 yoo18:12
bupi experienced best range around 88 MHz, but in theory silabs has a varactor that tunes internal transmit loop on other frequencies18:12
bupmagloops dont require a groundplane to get best transmit performance18:13
buplike say a 1/4w vertical18:13
bup(so headphones plugged in praobly doesnt help much)18:13
jacekowskichem|st: not really18:14
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jacekowskibup: hmmmm18:14
jacekowskibup: if you go to /sys18:14
jacekowskibup: and then find folder where fmtxd parameters are18:14
bupjacekowski: it allows even numbers. 88200 is ok, 88100 isnt18:14
bupwell, 200khz steps starting on 00018:14
jacekowskistep is set 0.218:14
bupall my recievers are analog18:15
bupso tuning to 88200 is just fine18:15
bupthe problem is the GUI only ddisplayed odd numbered 0.1 0.3 stuff18:15
bupso none of them worked except 76.0 cuz thats even and the default18:15
jacekowski /sys/bus/i2c/devices/2-0063/18:16
jacekowskitat folder18:17
jacekowskithere should be file called region in there18:17
jacekowskiwhat does it say18:17
jacekowskiand some other ifles18:17
jacekowskilike max and min frequency18:17
jacekowskiwhat does it say there18:17
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bup region_bottom_frequency 76000 top 108000 spacing 10018:18
jacekowskithen you are doing something wrong18:19
jacekowskihave you replaced correct file?18:19
bupmv fmtxd1.3 /usr/sbin/fmtxd18:19
jacekowskihave you killed currently running fmtxd?18:19
jacekowskior restarted phone18:19
jacekowskii said or18:20
jacekowskiit has to work18:20
bupit works fine, so long as the freq is divisible by 20018:20
bupand imf ine with that, so nevermind18:20
jacekowskithat's strange18:20
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jacekowskibecause fmtxd should read these numbers from sys nodes18:21
jacekowskicat /sys/bus/i2c/devices/2-0063/lock18:21
jacekowskiwhat does it say18:21
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jacekowskiit has to work18:21
bupthank goodnesss for analog radios18:22
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bupcat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/region_channel_spacing = 100, but fmtx_client claims 200, starting at 76000. and start freq is read-only, so i can't echo 7610018:32
bupthanks for helping me find the bug anwyays18:33
bupnow i can go back to binary-diffing fmtxd1.3 or looking for the source code18:33
bupalternately i could hack the GUI to not display odd-numbered freqs18:34
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saberclawmy facebook account is temporarily blocked ...can someone pls help!!!!18:46
obcecadois this channel #facebook ?18:47
crashanddiesaberclaw, gtfo18:48
saberclawohhh oohh ohhh...thanks mate18:48
saberclawsorry to bother you18:48
crashanddienp, anytime18:48
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Khertannoob day ?18:50
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crashanddieKhertan, on a eu un grand nombre de boulays.18:50
Khertanhello all18:50
merlin_1991Hey Khertan :)18:51
Khertancrashanddie, evite sfr a tout prix si tu veux utiliser un smartphone18:52
Corsacha ?18:52
crashanddieKhertan, ce sont mes clients ;)18:52
Khertanfiltrer les tar gz18:54
Khertanpas d apt ni de store18:54
Khertanet les request faite en qml en 40318:54
Khertanjoli le proxy transparent18:54
crashanddieyeah, they're not the nicest bunch18:54
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crashanddiewhich is why, even though we had a massive discount for the company, with us having them as customers, we went for Bouygues...18:55
Khertanand no tun kernel module on harmattan so no vpn18:55
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Khertanentering metro18:55
Khertanconnection will probably drop18:56
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Macerfinally took my damn n900 in to get the usb port fixed18:57
CorsacKhertan: ils ont tous des proxies transparents non ?18:58
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Macermaybe i'll try meego on it18:58
Maceri try to test meego out every 3 months or so :)18:58
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RST38hMeanwhile: FEMA Determines How Bad a Hurricane Is By Checking if The Waffle House Is Open19:06
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jaskaholistic approach?19:12
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MacerRST38h: haha19:34
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javispedrogoogle already starting world domination20:02
javispedrothe replacement for the gears thingie which was OSS, and allow offline gmail in many browsers is replaced by some chrome-only crap available in webstore20:03
* javispedro gives up trying to figure the RE that would fix the previous sentence grammar.20:04
Khertanwhat did they do this time ?20:04
javispedrowhen killing gears they'd used as excuse that "HTML5 had all of the gears features plus more"20:06
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javispedronow it turns out that no, only Chrome cuts it.20:07
Khertanyep and they kill it because it was kinda slow, use many network ressources, and was buggy20:09
slonopotamusand worked on even less platforms than flash :/20:09
javispedroslonopotamus: nah20:11
javispedrogears was open20:11
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javispedroit was even ported to Diablo20:11
javispedroand it worked quite well for even some 2GiB..20:12
javispedro(albeit horribly slow)20:12
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Creteilhi all22:07
Creteilsomeone know what file I need to edit to activate a kernel module compilation for the N900 kernel ?22:08
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NIN101Creteil, in a nutshell: Inside scratchbox, download the source ; make rx51_defconfig, edit the resulting .config and activate it there (=M)...22:12
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CreteilNIN101, ok, but I want it to be definitive, so what file I need to add in quilt add 'file' ?22:15
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NIN101Creteil: I don't know anything about quilt.22:16
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wheelerim having problems with wargus22:26
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wheeleri have the data files on root22:26
wheelerbut the extracting keeps failing22:27
wheelerso i cannot into warcraft 2 im afraid22:27
Macerthe people at the phone repair shop said the port wasn't the right one22:29
Macerit looked exactly the same22:29
Maceri think they just are unable to solder it on22:29
Macerjust as i was22:29
Macerfking lame... does anybody know where i can get a for sure proper port for the n900.. a replacement usb port?22:30
wheelerselling n900 usb ports 299 dollur each22:30
wheeleri drive a hard bargain22:31
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Choomone might as well just buy a new phone23:28
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Creteilwhere under make menuconfig I can access staging drivers ???23:29
NIN101Device Drivers -> Staging drivers usually23:30
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Creteilwhy I can't see staging drivers options for the n900 kernel ?23:32
DocScrutinizerMacer: there've been offers at fleabay23:34
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DocScrutinizerCreteil: maybe because the concept of staging is missing in maemo?23:34
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Sicelothere's an issue i have noticed with h-e-n. will show me an average of less than 10mA idle current draw before activating h-e-n, and no less than 30mA afterwards.23:45
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DocScrutinizerSicelo: err yup, possible.23:46
SpeedEvilThat's the quescant cunt of the boost converter.23:46
SpeedEvilQuiescent current23:47
DocScrutinizerthere's a problem with friggin musb_hdrc not entering powerdown state properly23:47
SpeedEvilOh - you mean after disbaling boost?23:47
Siceloyeah SpeedEvil23:47
DocScrutinizerif however you speak about time during h-e-n active then SpeedEvil is right23:47
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Siceloand cat /proc/driver/musb_hdrc seem fine afterwards23:48
DocScrutinizerSicelo: there's some "trick" how to fix it, ask ShadowJK about echo foo >/sys/*/usb/state23:48
DocScrutinizeralso connecting and removing a charger should probably fix it23:49
Sicelolet me try a charger :)23:49
DocScrutinizerh-e-n is not yet perfect, and your feedback actually highly appreciated23:49
ShadowJKthe thing I "fix" in cvhrge script is 80mA of powerdraq state consumed 80mA23:49
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ShadowJKthe thing I "fix" in charge script is 80mA of powerdraw23:51
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DocScrutinizeranother idea might be to repeatedly stop & start bme. Also cat /sys/*/usb/charger may fix that23:51
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DocScrutinizerin original hostmode kernel we could have controled it via some echo s >mode23:52
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DocScrutinizerto suspend USB controller23:52
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DocScrutinizeralas these nice debug commands got optimized out by paul23:53
xkr47bloat them back in ? :)23:54
Sicelothe charger 'fix' works ;)23:55
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