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| elzalem | hi, im flashing my n900, do i need both vanilla and combined images? | 00:36 |
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| Sicelo | depends what u want to achiever | 00:36 |
| Sicelo | ~flashing | 00:36 |
| infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:36 |
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| elzalem | restore everth to factory settings | 00:37 |
| elzalem | i thought that the combined image has the emmc image too (since it's called "combined") is that true? | 00:37 |
| Sicelo | what about data u already have? | 00:37 |
| elzalem | Sicelo: everything is backed up | 00:37 |
| Sicelo | they're separate | 00:38 |
| Sicelo | why u want to flash? | 00:38 |
| elzalem | Sicelo: well after 3 months of messing with it | 00:39 |
| elzalem | i want to start again :) | 00:40 |
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| Sicelo | ok. :) | 00:40 |
| luke-jr | I love how N900 kernels are buggy as heck -.- | 00:41 |
| * luke-jr needs to try rebuilding his again | 00:41 | |
| * Sicelo wishes someone could compil usb-modeswitch for N900 | 00:41 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's usb-modeswitch? | 00:54 |
| luke-jr | my guess: the hack to put N900 into host mode | 00:54 |
| SpeedEvil | I think it was something from the 810 naieevely compiled for the 900 | 00:55 |
| SpeedEvil | which never had a hope of working | 00:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | aaah that old stuff, yeah | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the brilliant thing that afaik basically did nothing but just "echo host >mode" | 00:56 |
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| Sicelo | no. usb-modeswitch is a utiliyu to eject 'fake ' cd-rom drive on zerocd based usb devices | 02:45 |
| Sicelo | when first connected, the usb device acts as a cd-rom drive from which the driver gets installed. a flip-lop is then set and the devices appears as whatever it is meant to be. the cd-rom disappears. | 02:46 |
| Sicelo | for linux, usb-modeswitch sets the flip-flop | 02:47 |
| SpeedEvil | I must have been thinking of some other device | 02:52 |
| Sicelo | np :) | 02:53 |
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| SpeedEvil | Some other package | 02:59 |
| Sicelo | my gsm operator has high data charges compared to telco, which offers cdma modems. i know N900 can't power them directly, but a even with a hub, it would just appear as a cd to the N900 | 03:02 |
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| Sicelo | s/a even with a/even with a powered/ | 03:03 |
| infobot | Sicelo meant: my gsm operator has high data charges compared to telco, which offers cdma modems. i know N900 can't power them directly, but even with a powered hub, it would just appear as a cd to the N900 | 03:03 |
| cehteh | yes some do that, first disk with drivers and then turn into a modem with some swithc | 03:04 |
| cehteh | dunno how | 03:04 |
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| nox- | Sicelo, try an eject command, or if that doesnt help look for (iirc) usb-modeswitch | 03:04 |
| nox- | (no idea if those are ported yet tho...) | 03:04 |
| Sicelo | eject alone never works. and usb-modeswitch is what i'm crying for ;) | 03:05 |
| cehteh | open("/dev/sr0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 3 | 03:06 |
| cehteh | ioctl(3, CDROMEJECT, 0xf1e940) = 0 | 03:06 |
| cehteh | hehe port it over | 03:06 |
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| cehteh | i have no idea what that does .. ioctl? | 03:07 |
| Sicelo | if i was a programmer, yes. i actually don't think it does much.. basically, aiui, there's a flip-lop in the device which must be flipped over. usb-modeswitch is able to send the right string to achieve that | 03:08 |
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| Sicelo | what is the download size for the sdk? | 03:09 |
| nox- | there is an eject command on most linuxen that i think does just that | 03:12 |
| nox- | (send CDROMEJECT) | 03:12 |
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| Sicelo | ejecting is not enough. the flip-flop must be flipped over as well. | 03:13 |
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| nox- | yeah depends on the modem | 03:13 |
| Sicelo | prolly | 03:14 |
| nox- | hence, usb-modeswitch | 03:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: eject alone works for e.g. my USB 3G stick | 03:35 |
| Sicelo | ow. means zte is trash :( | 03:35 |
| Sicelo | ac2766 is my modela | 03:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, usb-modeswitch should be simple to compile for maemo | 03:37 |
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| * DocScrutinizer notices he's got not notifications about new releases of usb-modeswitch from original author for so long, he actually forgot about the whle thing | 03:40 | |
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| Sicelo | :) | 03:41 |
| Sicelo | i also don't think much would be involved compiling it | 03:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | USB_ModeSwitch Version 1.1.6 (last bulk mail) from: usb_admin@draisberghof.de 2010-12-29 19:25 | 03:41 |
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| Sicelo | what's the download size for the sdk? | 03:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, scratchbox? some few GB | 03:43 |
| Sicelo | ok. will take me 2-e to download :P | 03:45 |
| Sicelo | s/2-e/2-3/ | 03:45 |
| infobot | Sicelo meant: ok. will take me 2-3 to download :P | 03:45 |
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| Sicelo | *days | 03:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=204582&postcount=4 | 03:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | HTH | 03:48 |
| Sicelo | omg O_O | 03:49 |
| Sicelo | thanks \0/ will check that out | 03:50 |
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| ShadowJK | NIN101, pong? | 03:50 |
| NIN101 | ShadowJK: Your script, in meegocharge.tar, is it actually under some licence or are we free to use it for in our own projects? | 03:51 |
| ShadowJK | free to use | 03:52 |
| NIN101 | ok :-). thx. | 03:53 |
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| ShadowJK | about 5% of it is original DocScrutinizer code, though i've rewritten things so many times anyway.. | 03:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 03:54 |
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| GAN900 | Somebody remind me how to change calcs in ATI85. | 07:46 |
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| cityLights | is it true? has nokia development being compromised? | 10:16 |
| joga | ? | 10:18 |
| ruskie | ? | 10:19 |
| RST38h | Compromised by whom? | 10:20 |
| sandst1 | cityLights: so it seems http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/ | 10:20 |
| RST38h | Ah that one, it is a fishing attack | 10:21 |
| RST38h | Do not click on that email | 10:21 |
| ab | cityLights, it is not a Nokia development but rather Nokia's web site for developers. Feel the difference. | 10:22 |
| cityLights | right | 10:23 |
| RST38h | Moo, ab | 10:23 |
| ab | RST38h, beeh | 10:23 |
| cityLights | I got a relevent question | 10:23 |
| cityLights | ever since the power kernel update | 10:23 |
| RST38h | Whoever broke into that SQL DB is sending out emails with exactly the same text from Nokia's site and an offer to click on a link that will do bad things to your computer. | 10:24 |
| cityLights | which didnt work ok, with me, and I had to flash | 10:24 |
| cityLights | but now I cant use mobilehotspot | 10:24 |
| cityLights | a modules is missing | 10:24 |
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| cityLights | nf_counterback | 10:25 |
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| cityLights | which package owns it? | 10:25 |
| radiofree | I just received that e-mail | 10:26 |
| radiofree | who would click a link wl4.peer360..../loadofcrap anyway? | 10:26 |
| RST38h | Some idiot always will. | 10:27 |
| cityLights | how to ask all packages dependednt of mobilehostspot? | 10:27 |
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| Sicelo | u probably haven't enabled all the repos u had before | 10:29 |
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| cityLights | apt-cache show mobile hotspot | 10:31 |
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| edheldil | apt-cache rdepends mobilehostspot? | 10:40 |
| edheldil | dunno if it works on maemo | 10:40 |
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| robbiethe1st | Well, I have to say, streaming mp3 files over SSH/SCP to my laptop seems to work, though *occasionally* it skips. | 13:17 |
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| x29a | anybody successfully working with qt mobility 1.2 on the n900? | 15:27 |
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| x29a | which scratchbox should i go with? is version2 fine for fremantle/n900? | 15:50 |
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| x29a | ah geez, why is there no clear instruction | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | important notice from Nokia to all users of developer.nokia.com -> http://wl4.peer360.com/b/56X1kFsJFLMffLIHk63Y/main.asp?hl=110921339&r=CBCEBBJ | 15:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | radiofree: iirc Nokia used peer360 for his developer newsletter for several years. The page linked by the URL looks clean | 15:57 |
| radiofree | DocScrutinizer: hah, alright :) | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | radiofree: of course I suggest to be as careful when visiting that page as you should be with any other unknown webpage you visit | 15:59 |
| chem|st | 360 is all that research stuff too afair | 16:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 16:01 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm _really_ surprised the n900 user experience survey is still ongoing. | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>© Nokia 2011 • A Product of Horizon Marketing Group • Powered by Peer360°<< | 16:01 |
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| radiofree | the url looks pretty shady to me | 16:02 |
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| radiofree | there's no way I'd ever click that in an e-mail | 16:03 |
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| x29a | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation seems to use scratchbox1, http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/install.html seems to be based on scratchbox2, which is the way to go? im so confused :( | 16:04 |
| x29a | host is ubuntu lucid (10.4) | 16:05 |
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| RST38h | Ex-Board Member Says HP Is Committing 'Corporate Suicide' | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think the scratchbox comes with the SDK install, no? | 16:09 |
| RST38h | What is it with corporations committing suicide nowadays? | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: spreading desease | 16:10 |
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| SpeedEvil | Apple has an incentive program. | 16:10 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: the hippies of the 1969 generation coming out of their disguises as businessmen to bring down the world of business | 16:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Take down your company, and we pay you $100m under the table. | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh, wasn't that the M$-way? | 16:10 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: I can almost believe it | 16:10 |
| RST38h | The apparent new focus on going head-to-head with SAP (Apotheker's former employer) and Oracle (Hurd's new employer) in enterprise software while ignoring the company's traditional strengths, said a software exec, is 'as if Alan Mulally left Boeing to join Ford as CEO, and announced six months later that Ford would be making airplanes.' | 16:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you know why $random-ethnic-group hasn't achieved to have a man in orbit yet? Because Ford doesn't build rockets | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | (old silly joke) | 16:13 |
| RST38h | too deep, the meaning has been lost in time, I guess... | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | only funny when random-ethnic-group is notorious to prefer Ford for their holiday trips. Replace Ford by any car brand that applies to your local situation | 16:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | of course this joke quite usually also isn't PC | 16:17 |
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| x29a | docscrutinizer: yes, but there seem to be multiple "final sdk" versions. one based on sb1 the other on sb2, then there is a garage repo for one, there are different instructions, im just not sure which is the newest/most stable. unfortunately, i find this to be a big problem of the maemo dev pages. too many places for information which is almost always outdated | 16:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | soory I can't help, no idea about it here either | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least from mediawiki's history you could tell what date the original page as well as possible edits are | 16:19 |
| x29a | ok thanks for listening though. i guess ill just try all of em, one by one | 16:20 |
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| x29a | just seems weird, that nobody is using them or has used them for development | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol - start with the higher numbers, I.E. sb2 I'd suggest ;-D | 16:21 |
| x29a | yep | 16:22 |
| RST38h | Anyone up to connecting this guy to Maemo/Meego: http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/e-funs-apen-a3-stylus-brings-digitized-scribbles-to-android-bl/ ? | 16:22 |
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| RST38h | Doc: But, shit, I have no idea what random-ethnic-group preferred Fords | 16:39 |
| RST38h | Doc: The British? =) | 16:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | here in Germany it's been the Turkish | 16:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that supposedly did | 16:51 |
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| GeneralAntilles | How depressing. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/touchpad-port-of-cm7-in-the-works-can-barely-be-called-an-alpha/ | 18:49 |
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| dm8tbr | no one porting meego yet? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | snapdragon :/ | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | (AFAIK) | 19:00 |
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| RST38h | HELO PUNKS | 19:14 |
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| kerio | RST38h: hostname PUNKS unknown | 19:44 |
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| slonopotamus | punks not dead but smell as if they were | 19:48 |
| slonopotamus | err, "it just smells thay way" originally | 19:49 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/29/amsung_thinking_of_webos_acquisition/ | 20:05 |
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| newbie007 | hi, I'm trying to build hildon desktop following directions @http://live.gnome.org/Hildon/Building whick links to https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/jhbuild_modules <-- this does not exist. What is the up-to-date way to install hildon desktop ? | 22:17 |
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