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| luke-jr | how do I remove a timed silence? | 00:05 |
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| ShadowJK | a what.. | 00:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | how fast is a timed silence? | 00:10 |
| ShadowJK | what IS a timed silence | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | and how does it taste? | 00:11 |
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| ShadowJK | like waffles+ | 00:13 |
| ShadowJK | ? | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe a timed silence can get removed by a alarm clock that has a loud ticking sound? | 00:13 |
| javispedro | more importantly, how does a timed silence sound? | 00:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | esp does it sound different when nobody listens? | 00:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and how long is a timed silence when nobody is going to time it | 00:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe timed is a noun? o.O | 00:23 |
| * DocScrutinizer does a ps|grep timed | 00:23 | |
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| crashanddie | hah | 01:46 |
| crashanddie | I'm going to meet Stallman | 01:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Fun. | 01:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 01:57 |
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| Hurrian | hmm, how hard would it be to recompile the open part of maemo with thumb and neon? | 02:41 |
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| cehteh | doesnt gcc optimize that already as much as it can? | 02:46 |
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| RiD | is it just me or those recatchas are getting harder and harder? One day they will be impossible to recognize by a human, but bots will still manage to recognize them... | 05:46 |
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| iluminator101 | is there an app that when you take a pic, it stamps geolocation on it? | 06:50 |
| iluminator101 | i mean is there an app that when you take a pic stamps the coordinates on it? | 06:51 |
| archl | iluminator101: I think it have a tag,not stamp,but why you want stamp? its hard to remove easier to add. | 06:53 |
| iluminator101 | archl, tag i meant when you take the pic it automatically adds the tag | 06:54 |
| archl | iluminator101: its a feature in both camera and blessn900 application | 06:55 |
| archl | iluminator101: you need to enable it | 06:55 |
| iluminator101 | camera is the default app that comes with maemo right? | 06:56 |
| archl | right | 06:57 |
| archl | it will enable GPS | 06:57 |
| archl | although catch satellite need sometime | 06:57 |
| iluminator101 | cool thanks archl | 06:58 |
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| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: he's coming down for some of my friends' graduation | 09:36 |
| crashanddie | Well, friends and one of my future employees, actually | 09:36 |
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| * Sicelo just can't get long-tap right | 16:02 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: yeah, longtap is difficult, I always use the scheme to tap+hold, then "drag+drop" to the according item in popup-menu | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | long-tap to open menu, then click on menu item, seems virtually impossible | 16:47 |
| Sicelo | yeah. i thought maybe someone figured out a better way | 16:47 |
| ShadowJK | I think opera's longtap is only one that doesn't need drag-drop | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | the key for succeeding long-tap is fast lift-off of the touching object | 16:49 |
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| joga | what's longtap? | 16:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | otherwise bouncing touchscreen creates a bogus click on "button-up" | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | joga: click-and-hold | 16:50 |
| joga | oh... | 16:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | plus lift-off of "your finger" == long-tap | 16:51 |
| joga | I never found anything wrong with it except that when I hold my finger there it's blocking the menu item | 16:51 |
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| joga | hmm, ok... I thought the menu would disappear when I lift the finger :) | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | more often than not the menu closes as soon as you lift off your finger | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's not supposed to do that | 16:51 |
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| joga | speaking of tricky tricks...clicking an url keypad closed is pretty hard | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | caused by a bogus click event during lift-off | 16:52 |
| joga | with fingers at least.. | 16:52 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer, ok...haven't payed much attention to such myself, fortunately it's pretty rare that I have to bring up a context menu | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | depends where and how to click | 16:53 |
| joga | *paid | 16:53 |
| joga | :) | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | in browser a zoom-in can help much to make clicking URLs more easy | 16:53 |
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| joga | that's true | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | using your fingernail is another benefit of resistive touchscreen that won't work on N9's c-ts | 16:54 |
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| joga | often have to do it especially when on some transport | 16:54 |
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| joga | I always use my finger nail really, I kinda hit them a bit backwards I guess | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe calibrating the sceen can help? | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | (have to admit I *never* done it on N900) | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw xchat is severely off for touchpoint vs screen display content | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously some calculation/algo bug | 16:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I got used to it and compensate for it, so I never came to file a bug against it | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 16:58 |
| ShadowJK | i never noticed that | 16:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it's fairly noticable when you try to grab the scrollbar. Needs clicking quite some mm inside the textbox | 16:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | clicking *on* the scrollbar handle doesn't work | 17:00 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer I think the problem with urls is more likely because I use a pretty small font and even a click might end up being a drag, first triggering the "copy/open" dialog but also the on-screen keyboard | 17:02 |
| joga | but it sometimes works inconsistently too, I dunno | 17:02 |
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| joga | I nearly always have the keypad open anyway, I find the device easier to hold like that | 17:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: I rarely ever use scrollbar since I changed keymapping to scroll with up/down keys. So I forgot to annoy you all with my rant :-D | 17:04 |
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| joga | yesterday I realized that I've always been doing 1) flip the locking switch to turn on display 2) open keypad for checking irc or something, but then when I close the keypad, I also have to flip the lock switch again, when instead I could simply just push the keypad up to check stuff and back in to lock the screen :) | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, the pity is it's not possible to lock screen unconditionally on closing kbd slider (unless you do some scripting hackery) | 17:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if you did some user interaction (tapping screen, pressing a key) while device unlocked by slider-opn, then slider-close won't lock again | 17:09 |
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| rhn | hi | 21:09 |
| rhn | just started testing the GPS on my new n900 - anyone knows how to get proper HDOP values? | 21:09 |
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| Sicelo | hdop? | 21:12 |
| rhn | dilution of precision | 21:13 |
| rhn | they are an order of magnitude bigger than in my other units | 21:13 |
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| Sicelo | i don't know much about these things, unfortunately | 21:15 |
| Sicelo | check out Columbus and Location Test | 21:16 |
| Sicelo | maybe what u want is there | 21:16 |
| rhn | let's see | 21:16 |
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| SpeedEvil | rhn: I think I submitted a bug on that. | 21:29 |
| SpeedEvil | rhn: What software are you using? | 21:29 |
| SpeedEvil | rhn: is it something that generates gpxs? | 21:29 |
| rhn | SpeedEvil, I tried some gpx logging widget | 21:30 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - it has a bug | 21:30 |
| rhn | but AGTL and GPSRecorder show far too big values as well | 21:30 |
| rhn | is it a software issue? | 21:31 |
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| rhn | does anyone know how to fix the value? some scaling perhaps? | 21:31 |
| SpeedEvil | You know that HDOP is unitless? | 21:32 |
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| rhn | yup | 21:32 |
| rhn | still, some relationship might exist | 21:32 |
| rhn | SpeedEvil, can you post a link to the bug report? | 21:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://pastebin.com/4PrgafpM was mailed to marcell@maemo.org on 24/5/2010 | 21:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | hmm | 21:36 |
| SpeedEvil | I think I've actually submitted a seperate bug against something else | 21:37 |
| rhn | I can see my exact story in that message | 21:37 |
| rhn | against liblocation (or whatever it's called)? | 21:38 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure - I think it was another logger widget that was logging HDOP but using the meters estimated error to do it - so was stupidly out | 21:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Possibly 'gps recorder' | 21:40 |
| SpeedEvil | unsure though | 21:40 |
| rhn | I think it's what I'm using at the moment | 21:40 |
| rhn | gotta look at liblocation in that case | 21:41 |
| SpeedEvil | try the other wisget | 21:41 |
| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/view/gps-data-logger/ | 21:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - osm2go I think does it properly | 21:42 |
| rhn | actually I was using GPS data logger | 21:43 |
| rhn | so it's wrong as well | 21:43 |
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| rhn | does osm2go capture tracks at all? | 21:49 |
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| rhn | SpeedEvil, Columbus seems to return correct information, although it outputs NMEA | 22:13 |
| rhn | oh wait, it uses fake HDOP | 22:14 |
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| ajay | hey folks.. | 22:30 |
| ajay | just wondering if anyone knows if there are folks working on Maemo for the touchpad? | 22:30 |
| Sicelo | no. there aren't, and won't be. maybe MeeGo | 22:31 |
| ajay | just realized that after i said it, heh.. ta! | 22:31 |
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| Sicelo | ~meh | 22:44 |
| infobot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase | 22:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~wtf meh | 23:12 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what meh means... | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~dict meh | 23:12 |
| infobot | could not find definition for meh | 23:12 |
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| cehteh | ~meh dict :) | 23:35 |
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