IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-08-02

vi__how do i get larger pictures for shortcuts on the desktop?00:00
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vi__no volunteers?00:03
fusitheme customiser allows you to alter that iirc00:05
fusidunno wher the setting is exactly though00:05
vi__but if I only want 1 or 2 larger shortcuts?00:06
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fusinot sure thats possible.. i may be wrong but i think the setting is system wide and not particular to individual icons00:07
fusii may be wrong00:07
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fusivi_: there is a widget i think in extras that allows you to specify a custom picture/size for a desktop widget/link00:14
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vi__yeah, its broken.00:15
vi__there is also queen beecon widget00:16
fusiah yea forgot bout that one00:16
vi__but as you approach 30 widgets wierd shit starts to happen00:16
fusicluttered desktop? ^^00:17
vi__the contents of slide down menus doesnt appear00:17
vi__i.e. powerkey menu00:17
fusihavent run into that myself yet - did u sumbit a bug report?00:18
vi__not yet00:18
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vi__i don't think it matters no!no!no!yes! is gone now00:18
vi__besides 8 havn't quite managed to pinpoint EXACTLY how to trigger the bug00:19
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fusiim typo complaint :p00:19
infobotvi__ meant: /s/I/I/00:19
fusisee heh00:19
fusisorry i cant be of more help00:19
vi__queen beecon widget is rather remarkable00:20
vi__It should be ported to desktops as well00:20
fusiit is rather nifty00:20
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fusimobile ui's really are influencing more and more stuff00:20
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fusii like it00:21
SpeedEvilIt's fucking anoying.00:21
vi__my favourite thing so far is putting tiny widgets in the status bur area at the top right00:21
SpeedEvilFirefox - forex.00:21
SpeedEvilI have a 20" monitor.00:21
fusigood idea, unused space00:21
fusiSpeedEvil: ooh i dont use it anymore00:21
fusibloated :s00:21
SpeedEvilI want the extra bars, s they are useful.00:21
vi__extra bars? what?00:22
fusii rly hate m$'s ui changes ie7+00:22
fusiwith that crappy toolbar you cant do anything with00:22
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vi__lol@ribbon interface00:22
SpeedEvilvi__: Firefox nuked the statusbar. Which is annoying.00:22
vi__oh yeah00:22
fusicopied google00:22
fusiwith that floating crap00:22
vi__wtf happened to FF?00:23
fusii agree00:23
fusiwhat version you on vi__ ?00:23
fusiit all changed in ff4 i think00:23
vi__fuck, I dont even know anymore00:23
fusiit 'went wrong'00:23
vi__4 i think00:23
vi__I amcurrently using an older build of 'swiftfox' based on FF3 at home00:24
vi__it seems to be the betamax of FF00:24
fusiive had many a rant on m$ ui usability in the past00:24
fusiooh im on 500:25
vi__theres no point, anyone who understands doesnt us m$ if they can help00:25
fusidont recommend it :(00:25
fusimight be all the plugins ive got loaded00:25
fusisoo sloooow00:25
vi__you know whats freakin sweet?00:25
fusii use chrome these days00:25
* fusi ducks00:25
fusivi__: mm?00:25
vi__busybox on windows00:25
vi__sed, awk, grep, ash & all the coolshit in 600kB00:26
vi__unfortunate for CMD00:26
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fusislightly embarrassing00:26
vi__which is too busy locating every dick in the universe to suck so much it fails to notice how fucking worthless it is00:27
vi__indeed if CMD was self aware that is00:27
vi__however it is not00:27
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vi__and thusly continues to suck penis00:28
fusideep wound? :p00:28
* vi__ breathes steady00:28
vi__...let it go bro00:28
vi__...its ok00:28
fusiim tickled for a bit more k240 :)00:29
fusicya l8r o/00:29
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Psianyone know about the n900 IR system. Do apps that want to send IR codes talk to the IR chip directly or is it an OS call?01:07
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SpeedEvilIt's an OS call.01:11
Psiso you have to pass the pulse width for zero and one and the codes01:11
SpeedEvilA stupidly implements OS call, but...01:11
Psiok, thanks01:11
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Psiirreco never worked for me (Well it did once years ago) but i just installed tvbgone and that works fine01:14
Psipondering coding a simple app to send the codes i use day-2-day01:14
nox-it uses lirc, like irsend01:14
nox-so, just like on desktop linux01:15
Psithat should make it easy to find info01:15
nox-youll need an lirc.conf01:15
nox-made from mode2, i.e. not devinput or irman or what you have...01:16
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DocScrutinizer51irrec works just fine here, one lirc gets properly starteed02:35
DocScrutinizer51just the config is scattered all over the device02:36
DocScrutinizer51plus the IR TX LED ia just way too weak02:37
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DocScrutinizer51I guess in 2 or 3 years I'll do a lil fancy one weekend end pimp the HW (resistors maybe LED and driver transistors)02:40
DocScrutinizer51s/ end/ and/02:40
infobotDocScrutinizer51 meant: I guess in 2 or 3 years I'll do a lil fancy one weekend and pimp the HW (resistors maybe LED and driver transistors)02:40
DocScrutinizer5150W IR laser LED YEAH02:41
DocScrutinizer51MOAR POWER02:41
merlin1991DocScrutinizer51: when you've built the pocket n900 laz0r with autotarget app ping me ;)02:44
HurrianDocScrutinizer: second battery just for 10 IR LEDs02:46
Hurriancontrolled by I2C bus02:46
SpeedEvilThe existing battery can cope with amp pulses02:47
Hurrianultimate TV-B-Gone02:47
SpeedEvilthat's plenty for 3W LEDs02:47
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gintoxicyoutube-dl    me and my friends made this song in 1993-1994 MOTHAFUCKAAAAAS02:50
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Psithe n900 IR port is only TX isnt it?  ie, there is no RX05:00
Psilooks like i'll have to use the osilloscope then :P hehe05:00
Termanagood morning05:01
DocScrutinizerscope? for what?05:01
Psifor seeing what the IR codes are, so i can make a config file for the device05:02
SpeedEvilPsi: In principle it's possible to do what DocScrutinizer is about to suggest.05:02
Psior, mic in the case of n90005:02
fusioooh it runs!05:03
Psiis that what he was going to suggest? :P05:03
DocScrutinizeruse a phototransistor and a 3.5mm 4pole. connect phototransistor to sleve and lowest ring. Done05:03
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: how did you know :-D05:03
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PsiDocScrutinizer: no need to filter out the carrier?05:03
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Psiany idea of those two connections are on the tv out cable?05:04
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Psiso i dont need to go find a 4pole 3.5mm05:04
DocScrutinizer+ = pin, GND = shield05:05
DocScrutinizer2.5V, 2k2R series05:05
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DocScrutinizeraka source Z05:05
DocScrutinizerso really all you need is a phototransistor05:06
DocScrutinizerif you wanna get fancy, place a 100pF in parallel (filter carrier ;-D )05:06
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Psii have a few IR reciever chips somewhere05:07
DocScrutinizeror do the math for a RC filter with R=2k2 and f(0)=10kHz05:07
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fusiwish i undserstood electronivs05:07
DocScrutinizermaybe yu can even use 1nF05:08
Psifusi: you dont really need to understand much to be able to join existing stuff together and make whatever you want05:08
fusilike burnt out bits of electronics?05:08
DocScrutinizerbut I bet you don't need any of that05:08
PsiDocScrutinizer: yeah05:08
* DocScrutinizer takes a glance at schematics05:09
Psiso you have the n900 schematics?05:10
SpeedEvilthey're on the wiki05:10
* Psi didnt know this05:10
DocScrutinizerthere's already a 100pF, after the bed05:10
fusipico farrad? :D05:11
DocScrutinizerpico Farad05:11
fusii was right05:11
* fusi dances05:11
DocScrutinizerL4080 bead 120R/100MHz05:13
DocScrutinizerirrelevant for kHz05:13
DocScrutinizerblocks the RF so it goes to FMRX rather than to GND via 100pF05:14
Psiso irrecord can read the line in directly?05:15
DocScrutinizernope, you'll need to use soundcard for this05:16
Psisounds like the oscilloscope would be easier05:17
DocScrutinizerthough *IF* it actually pulls down the line to GND, then HOLD button even shall get triggered that can somehow get read directly05:17
nox-apparently lirc has a portaudio driver for soundcard input...05:18
DocScrutinizerhey, I'd prefer audacity to a cheap scope for this task every day05:18
nox-tho i much doubt thats got built for n900 lirc :)05:18
DocScrutinizernox-: \o/05:18
Psifor getting codes when your away from home yeah, this is definitly the way to go05:18
Psibut at home its probably simpler to just use the rigol05:19
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DocScrutinizernox-: where did I see your nick recently?05:19
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nox-hm lirc docs talk about an audio-alsa input too...05:20
Psithink ill make a 4pole 3.5->phototransistor module i can keep in my wallet05:20
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DocScrutinizerchampion developer of August? co-author of a package with 2 other guys?05:20
nox-DocScrutinizer, you tell me :)05:20
nox-probabyl different nox05:20
nox-ah yeah lirc-0.9.0/daemons/hw_audio_alsa.c05:21
DocScrutinizerhmmm rigol05:21
nox-this is the hw:
Psithe one everyone hacked to 100mhz :D05:22
nox-whats that, a tuner?05:22
nox-DocScrutinizer, curious which package were you thinking of?05:23
Psii should get one of those new agilent ones05:23
DocScrutinizerI got rid of basically all my tools05:23
Psimm.. fast update rate05:23
DocScrutinizernox-: no idea. Just seen a nox- mentioned somewhere last 48h, thought "duh, you know that guy?"05:23
nox-im mostly a freebsd guy, something to do with that?05:24
DocScrutinizerfullname (
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DocScrutinizerin some .h or whitepaper or sth05:25
nox-i wonder what that was :)05:25
nox-hm i dont even remember what that is...05:26
DocScrutinizerIf I recall it I'll let you know05:27
nox-heh ok05:27
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DocScrutinizerdang, my dns-server(s) dead, probably not long until I'm offline05:39
DocScrutinizeryeah, just needs reconfiguration of my router :-/05:40
DocScrutinizermaybe it's even my provider's DSLAM05:41
DocScrutinizermodem acts weird05:41
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nox-you can also put it in your local resolv.conf for the time being05:43
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DocScrutinizertzzz, changing second DNS to in router made all work great, PRIMARY DNS is answering again05:49
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DocScrutinizerI think this ZyXEL P660 is *crap*05:49
* nox- oldschool, still using freebsd as router here...05:50
DocScrutinizercan't afford that :-D05:50
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DocScrutinizerI've seen this effect before, seems each time the modem thinks about using secondary DNS it goes apeshit05:52
nox-(you mean the router?)05:53
DocScrutinizersomehow last time I tried to investigate what's going on, everything was *really* weird, like 2nd DNS got messed up and killing primary DNS table or sth05:53
DocScrutinizerI'm using a very proprietary DNS which isn't exactly meant to be public usage05:54
DocScrutinizerand I'm all doubt about the secondary DNS there being a proper DNS at all05:55
nox-well google's is `proper'05:55
DocScrutinizeryeah, so I might keep for secondary05:55
nox-ah the one you had, ok05:55
DocScrutinizerth eone I used for secondary 5min ago05:56
DocScrutinizerinstead of that x.x.212.5205:56
DocScrutinizerof a small provider here in my town05:57
DocScrutinizerthat's not at all related to me05:57
DocScrutinizeradvantage of distributed info. DSL provider knows my IP<->realname, this DNS knows my queries and IP but can't correlate to any real name05:59
* nox- once discovered an uni dns in one little used box when it wouldnt resolve anymore, apparently it then was moved or closed for the outside05:59
nox-makes sense05:59
DocScrutinizergoogle however knows *all* :-P06:00
DocScrutinizerthat's why I don't really like and
* nox- also usually refuses google's cookies06:01
DocScrutinizerwon't help when you use
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DocScrutinizer8.8.8.8 knows *everything* you do06:01
nox-(i didnt say i usually do... :)06:01
nox-thats just one publicly available one06:02
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nox-..publicly available and easy to remember06:03
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nox-you run that on the router?06:20
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DocScrutinizerwireshark? no06:22
DocScrutinizermy router doesn't relay DNS, it just hands DNS IP to DHCP clients06:23
nox-even more strange then that it would have trouble with a secondary06:23
DocScrutinizerthis also renders moot all my rant about ZyXEL being crap and involved there06:23
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fusigoogled a problem ive got06:28
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fusiand got linked to an archived irc chat log from this channel06:28
fusiunfortauntely the problem doesnt appear to have been resolved06:28
fusibut the cause was identified06:28
fusiaclocal: macro `gl_FUNC_ARGZ' required but not defined06:29
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fusican i delete the m4 folder and its contents06:32
fusiis it regenerated?06:32
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nox-that i kind of doubt06:33
fusiyea iim looking thorugh it06:33
fusii do see a m4_define([LT_PACKAGE_VERSION], [2.2.6b])06:34
fusiin ltversion.m406:34
fusiwoglindewhich libtool version fremantle has?01:0506:34
fusihmm nope06:35
fusicommeting the def out doenst help either06:36
fusihmm lt~obsolete.m406:36
nox-i think you can run all the auto* foo on a pc, except for the ./configure run itself06:37
fusiyea im in scratchbox atm06:37
nox-`in theory' :)06:37
fusioh you tease06:37
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nox-but that might have more chances than getting something more recent to work with obsolete auto* tools06:38
fusiwell it didnt error on the autoreconf06:39
fusi\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/06:40
* fusi huggles nox- 06:40
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fusiyou win a million winrars06:40
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fusi:d ty06:40
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nox-and i just found a argz.m4 here that defines gl_FUNC_ARGZ, # Portability macros for glibc argz.                    -*- Autoconf -*06:42
nox-ah yeah its from libtool-2.406:43
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fusicompiles and runs \o/06:50
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nox-fusi, :)07:24
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antman89691has anyone else placed the "preorder" for the cordia tab07:57
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wmaroneantman89691: I will as soon as actual preorders are available07:59
antman89691it might help to to the pre pre order, aparently he needs to know who is interested08:02
antman89691but I'm glad to see it coming soon08:02
antman89691harmattan is proving to be a let down08:03
cehtehpre pre pre pre order .. wtf :P08:03
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ruskie <-- lol08:13
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TimmyTwhen the email app checks my inbox and finds new mails, downloads the body of new mails, but i want it downloads only their headers, not the whole body, how can i configure it?10:07
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DocScrutinizeruse imap instead of pop3 ?10:09
cehtehimap doesnt work better on the n900 :P10:10
TimmyTDocScrutinizer: i did,10:10
DocScrutinizerconfigurability of modest is errrr modest10:10
cehtehemail is just broken10:10
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MohammadAGnot in nokia messaging :P10:11
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RST38hmoo all10:55
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Arkenoiwill cordia run apps from fremantle repositories?11:17
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DocScrutinizerwtf is cordia?11:25
DocScrutinizeresp what's a cordia tab?11:26
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radiofreesounds like the name of some new soft drink11:29
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PsiDocScrutinizer: yay, got my lighting working in qtirreco11:46
Psi way more range when you get the carrier freq right :)11:46
Psido we actually know what wavelength the filter in the n900 case is designed to pass?11:49
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SpeedEvilwhat filter11:52
Psion the n900 case11:52
Psiwhere the ir led is11:52
SpeedEvilQuite irrelevant.11:53
SpeedEvilIt passes the LEDs wavelength.11:53
SpeedEvilwhich is - pretty much - one wavelength.11:53
Psioh right11:53
Psiyeah, i wasnt thinking11:53
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SpeedEvilProbably in the 800nm range11:54
DocScrutinizerand my freq was correctish for my TV, yet the range is <2m11:54
Psiat 40khz i was getting 1m and not very reliable. changed to 38khz and am now getting it from the other side of the room, ~4m11:54
DocScrutinizerwell, most IRRX are not exactly carrier selective11:55
Psimy room lighting uses one of those 3pin ir reciever chips11:55
Psiwith built in amp and filter that outputs the raw pulses at 0-5v11:56
DocScrutinizeryeah , iirc those are usually spec'ed like >>38..42kHz<< and >32..36kHz<<11:57
DocScrutinizersth like that11:57
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DocScrutinizerat least the one used in my TV evidently is characterized correctly by such spec11:58
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Psihehe, my room lighting video came up as the 4th item in google search results for "led room lighting"12:00
* Psi feels special12:00
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ruskie <-- can we stop with patenting nature?12:56
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villagerruskie: I've decided I'll never move to the U.S. if there's a chance I'll want to do any kind of innovation - and since I'm an engineer, that chance will always be there13:15
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ruskieI decided to not even visit the US...13:15
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Creteil~seen thopiekar13:20
nid0having to fill out an essay in order to visit the place is a pain :<13:20
CreteilHi all13:20
Creteilsomeone here can help me to find why autobuilder reject my build with error :13:21
Creteilmake: dh_pysupport: Command not found13:21
Creteilmake: *** [binary-arch] Error 12713:21
Creteildpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 213:21
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villageryes, I try to avoid visiting U.S. too, but since one of my friends live there, it's not easy to avoid completely13:22
villagerCreteil: you need Build-Depends: python-support13:23
Creteilvillager, thanks I understand now How to fix all this type of problem ...13:23
* Arkenoi is going to visit US someday but i am kinda worried NSA and DHS will fuck my brain. Getting visa if you are involved in something with words "security" or/and "crypto" in it might be lengthy and annoying procedure.13:25
villagerCreteil: that's part of what the autobuilder is for13:25
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Creteilvillager, just fixed the control file and send to autobuilder with dput ...13:26
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villagerCreteil: otherwise I suppose you just have to learn stuff... try things... ask more experience people... do research (e.g. "dpkg -S dh_pysupport" would have told you which package the file is in)13:27
villagerlook at other packages to see how they're done...13:28
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villagerwhatever it takes13:28
Creteilvillager, yes for sure ...13:29
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Psihas anyone found a way to get more than 4 desktops yet?13:52
Psilast i checked the needed code was still closed source13:52
cehtehisnt there an app to unlock that (or just setting some configure option)13:54
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robbiethe1stYea, there is14:02
robbiethe1stthere's a topic showing how to get up to 914:03
robbiethe1st...Not that I've ever messed with it; I haven't needed more than 214:03
merlin1991Psi: with the cssu you get up to 914:11
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chem|stcehteh: config... set 9 instead of 4...14:24
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chem|stPsi: that is old... was one of the first desktop tweaks out afair14:25
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Arkenoimy apmd died, how can i check what happened?14:28
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ShadowJKyou're not supposed to have an apmd?14:35
gomiamShadowJK: where are you not supposed to have an apmd?14:36
gomiamAFAIK you can have one on N8x0... then again it might be the applet just talking trash when it connects to the battery info.14:37
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ArkenoiShadowJK, battery applet says so (that it died and it cannot get battery level because of it)14:42
ShadowJKmust be some random crapapplet :)14:43
Arkenoithe stock battery indicator shows it all grey as well14:44
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Arkenoibatterygraph, however, dies get the proper values14:46
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* gomiam ps -efa's...14:56
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gomiamthere seems to be no process called apm-whatever14:57
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gomiamwhich means the apm is either an applet brainfart or something embedded somewhere else.14:58
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gomiamchecking /usr/lib/advance-power-monitor/* ...14:58
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gomiamArkenoi: ok, it seems there is a /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor/ that acts as APMD for the applet. /etc/init.d/apmonitord restart might be the command you want to run as root to get APMD back up again.15:59
TimmyTi had installed mymenu and now i've removed that, but now i see that it has broken the menu, and lots of installed apps are not shown in the default menu16:00
TimmyTwhat can i do with it?16:00
Arkenoistrange, apmonitord is missing from my init.d16:01
Arkenoihow could it happen?16:01
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Arkenoiand there is no /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor as well16:02
gomiamArkenoi: mmm... it seems you lack some package16:02
FIQ|n900TimmyT, have you rebooted since uninstall?16:02
TimmyTFIQ|n900: yep16:03
FIQ|n900where did you install it?16:03
Arkenoiandvanced-power-monitor is already the newest version16:03
gomiamArkenoi: do you have advance-power-monitor installed?16:04
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gomiamerm... advanced-power-monitor, I mean16:04
TimmyTFIQ|n900: what so u mean where did u install it? i've installed on my phone. where can i install it?16:04
gomiamTimmyT: he asks where did you put, on the menu, the mymenu link... I think.16:05
gomiamArkenoi: reinstall it then, please.16:05
FIQ|n900i wonder what repository you installed it from16:05
TimmyTahah, official repositories, but dunnu which one16:06
FIQ|n900ah, i found this:
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TimmyTi've ssh access to my phone16:07
Arkenoireinstalled, everything is ok16:07
Arkenoihow could it vanish from the system though apt thinks it is still there?16:07
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FIQ|n900TimmyT, that's really an outdated thread so the solution might not work however16:08
FIQ|n900but try it16:08
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TimmyTFIQ|n900: someone reported that by doing this, rearranging is not possible16:09
TimmyThe said: I had the same problem, did the same thing and everything worked fine...16:10
TimmyT BUT16:10
TimmyT When I tried to rearrange icons in menu it got back to the old, damaged/ missing icons one.. And had to do this again..16:10
FIQ|n900i see it, readed the thread as well16:10
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FIQ|n900but i don't really use mymenu, so i don't know exactly why it happens16:10
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FIQ|n900so i can't help you there really16:10
FIQ|n900except from linking that16:10
TimmyTif i know it will happen, i would behave as u :D16:11
TimmyTand i would not install it16:11
FIQ|n900the only other solution I can give is... well, reflash16:11
TimmyTFIQ|n900: lol, i've just reflashed it16:12
FIQ|n900and it didn't help?16:12
FIQ|n900and you've already removed everything?16:12
TimmyTno, it was ok, i've installed this app after that16:12
FIQ|n900if so, try reflash again, that will help for sure :)16:13
FIQ|n900even if it might be a quicker way that i don't know about16:13
TimmyTi mean if i reflash it, it'll be ok. but i've just done that today16:13
TimmyTso no one will remove or report this app?16:14
TimmyTit'll broke more phones16:14
TimmyTerr, brick16:14
FIQ|n900indeed it will16:14
FIQ|n900submit a bug report if it isn't already16:15
gomiamArkenoi: good question. I have no answer for it though.16:15
FIQ|n900TimmyT, you might want to try installing something that rebuilds the menu and see if it works16:16
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FIQ|n900like catorise16:16
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FIQ|n900(and then uninstall it)16:17
TimmyTlet me try16:17
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TimmyTFIQ|n900: i've just installed catorise and it has restored my icons, but seems it's a good menu,16:21
TimmyTwhere to report it?16:22
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Shapeshiftermedia player says 'no songs'. everything is gone except the radio stations. help?17:02
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nussehave you tried turning it off and on again?17:07
Shapeshifternusse: no. that seems bothersome and I wouldn't even know what the problem was17:08
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villagerperhaps the Tracker database needs to be rebuilt17:10
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Shapeshiftervillager: How do I do that? I see tracker is running17:11
villagerhmm, wonder if infobot has any information about that17:11
villagerwell, if infobot knows, I'm not sure what the keyword it17:12
villagertry /usr/lib/tracker/trackerd -r17:13
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villagerShapeshifter: or, according to a web search, maybe it's tracker-processes -r17:16
villagerof course this all assumes that your songs aren't physically gone...17:17
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Shapeshiftervillager: thanks, I was jsut driving somewhere else. tracker-processes -r did something but didn't solve the problem17:32
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Shapeshiftermh it's probably running in the background17:34
villagerShapeshifter: it may take a while to reindex... but can you check if the files are physically there? with the file manager, say?17:34
Shapeshiftervillager: yes they are, I can play them through file manager as well.17:35
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villagerShapeshifter: ok, then perhaps you'll just have to wait for the reindex to complete17:35
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Shapeshiftervillager: yep they're back17:42
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psychologei install cutetube-qml it's a great program,but i can't login my youtube accounts.19:06
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infobotmethinks packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds.
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reenignEesreveRi have a second hand n900; the previous guy has tinkered a lot to install a lot of unwanted software ... i was wondering if there could be a way to get my phone into a state as if it was unboxed ... flashing etc would do?20:00
infobotsomebody said maemo-flashing was
reenignEesreveRi don't think i need to update the firmware as such ...20:01
NIN101read the page, it answers your question.20:02
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angelox|laptopHi everybody20:21
angelox|laptopI'm getting a Green(or yellow) light when i plug my Nokia N900 at usb plugging into my PC20:22
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angelox|laptopit charges fine20:23
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nid0whats the problem?20:24
SpeedEvilgreen is charged20:24
angelox|laptopi'm not sure if it's green20:24
SpeedEvilyellow solid is charging, but too low battery voltage to boot20:24
angelox|laptopbut the device powers up finely20:25
SpeedEvilYellow flashing is charging after booting.20:25
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angelox|laptopYellow solid20:25
SpeedEvilThat's charging - when off then.20:26
angelox|laptopbut that color when device powered on?20:26
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angelox|laptopthat also when booting another O.S.,like MeeGo20:28
SpeedEvilWith device powered on - if it's not maemo - whatever that OS chooses to do20:29
angelox|laptopbut on Maemo i get the same20:29
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SpeedEvilDoes it charge properly?20:35
SpeedEvilAn have you installed any LED pattern stuff?20:35
SpeedEvilIt's possible for the MCE file to be corrupt, and have the wrong patterns stored.20:35
angelox|laptopYes,it charge s20:36
angelox|laptopno,i haven't led pattern app20:36
angelox|laptopand i've flashed too recently20:39
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hiemanshuI think the usb on n900 will break any day now :(20:49
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fusiwhen stepping into a func exported by this .so, the program exits withcode 0 :(21:01
fusii guess it cant find the .so?21:02
fusithought it would of failed at link/load time?21:02
fusiam i able to use ar and glom the .a intp the program?21:02
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fusior will that still require the .so?21:03
fusiis the .a just an import file? no actual cdoe?21:04
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fusihmm ldconfig21:14
javispedrofusi: lazy linking: a symbol is resolved the first time it is called21:14
javispedroso yes, it will die if it can't find it the moment it is called.21:14
javispedrohowever, it should print something meaningful to stderr.21:15
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fusijavispedro: aha21:24
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fusithanks, unfortunately it silently exits21:24
fusiexit value: 021:25
fusiim assuming it cant find the lib21:25
fusibut its in /usr/local/lib21:25
fusiam i able to link the .a into the program21:25
fusiso that it doesnt need to link the external lib21:25
javispedroare you closing stderr or sth wierd?21:25
fusiusing the hello world template21:26
fusiclicking the big button calls into this lib21:26
fusino stderr messing around afaics21:26
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fusinope im looking at the wrong console ^^21:27
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fusi/home/maemo/workspace/helloworld/helloworld: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ undefined symbol: RAND_bytes21:28
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fusiso.. its findiong the lib?21:28
fusibut its not exporting the required symbol21:28
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fusithanks for your help javispedro21:30
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fusiRAND_bytes is declared openssl/rand.h21:32
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javispedrofusi: sounds like a hard problem21:33
fusisoo it must be that it cant find openssl lib21:33
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fusiits just me being noob with build envs =)21:33
javispedroI mean21:33
javispedroyou are probably running a Diablo binary in Fremantle, or the like21:34
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fusiwhat im doing is basically21:36
fusigot liboauth from the repo21:37
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fusibuilt it, installed yada21:37
fusinow afaik that should of pulled down all the openssl stuff and whatnot21:37
javispedrocheck the versions of the openssl packages you used21:38
javispedrodevice and scratchbox should match21:38
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DocScrutinizerhiemanshu: get your dang USB fixed then21:51
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schauehoI'm trying to use my n900 as a router, connecting my laptop via usb21:55
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schauehounfortunately, whenever the n900 is on gprs, the laptop can't connect to the n90021:56
schauehoany ideas?21:56
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schauehothe gprs interface seems to interfere with the usb device22:07
schauehoI can't even ping the ip on the usb interface from the n90022:07
valdyn_schaueho: ping is disabled by default22:08
valdyn_schaueho: did you adjust routes?22:08
valdyn_schaueho: is forwarding enabled? ( i have no idea what background i can assume )22:09
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schauehoyes, forwarding is enabled, but I don't even get to the n90022:10
schauehoalthough I can ping the laptop from the n900 just fine22:10
valdyn_schaueho: echo requests are disabled, enable them if you want to play with ping22:10
valdyn_schaueho: i mean echo replies are disabled22:11
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schauehohmm, but only if on gprs?22:11
valdyn_schaueho: obviously they're not disabled on your laptop22:11
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valdyn_schaueho: nah, they're generally off by default iirc22:11
schauehowhen the n900 is on wlan, I can ping it from the laptop just fine22:11
schauehoI suspect that the routing I get from the gprs is the culprit22:12
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schauehoI get a default route with a gateway of
valdyn_schaueho: thats ok22:12
valdyn_Shapeshifter: thing is that your route to the laptop via usb needs to be above in the routing table22:13
valdyn_schaueho: ^^22:13
valdyn_Shapeshifter: sry22:13
schauehowell, if I can trust the output of route -n, that's the case22:14
valdyn_schaueho: sure you can trust it22:14
valdyn_schaueho: do verify that echo is on22:15
valdyn_schaueho: oh and do verify that routing table on the laptop too22:16
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fusithink ive found the root of the problem22:19
fusi./configure doesnt work in scratchbox due to wrong libtools, so i ran it outside of scratchbox22:19
fusiwhich must of pulled in aaaaaaall the wrong versions of dependancies22:20
fusiso ive gotta recreate the build env for this liboauth basically22:20
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schauehovaldyn_, you're right, the echo replies are disabled22:24
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Justusgot a little problem here: whenever I try to do something on my N900 filesystem it fails, on the console i get the reason readonly filesystem, but when i check it with mount it says rw not ro, any ideas?22:29
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Justushm, settings tells me theres 1 gb free space22:30
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Justusdf tells me 96 percent22:31
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SpeedEvilwhich filesystem22:32
Justusplus it also fails on rm22:32
Justus-  /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir)22:33
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SpeedEvilI'd look at dmesg22:39
SpeedEvilsee if there are any errors22:39
SpeedEvilOh - this is mydocs?22:40
SpeedEvilyou can - as root - unmount that22:40
SpeedEviland then dosfsck it22:40
SpeedEvilI think22:40
SpeedEvilOr mount on a PC and run a filesystem checker22:40
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fusiok look slike liboauth is in the repos anyway22:44
fusiso i wont bother building that myself22:44
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justusdid anyone answer after i posted the mount output? because at that time my system crashed22:51
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Juozapashow to make time delay for camera? i want to make group photos with myself sometimes22:51
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justusthanks alot, ill have a look22:53
NIN101@Juozapas: IIRC the stock version can not do it. But take a look at this: which is now shipped with CSSU...22:55
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fusi0x8504170 "Failed to validate oauth signature and token"22:56
FIQwhat name does the microB binary have?22:56
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reenignEesreveRhow do i know which firmware version would be best for me? there are about 20 options available :(22:57
reenignEesreveRwhat is "vanilla" version?22:58
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reenignEesreveRwhat about regions?23:03
SiceloJuozapas: you can also use something like: sleep 30; phone --control --capture <path>23:03
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reenignEesreveRthere are around 5 regions, my country doesn't fall any of those so prolly i'll be ok with "global" ?23:03
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JuozapasSicelo: no command phone'23:06
NIN101@FIQ: /usr/bin/browser23:06
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JaffaEv'ning, all23:07
NIN101reenignEesreveR: yes I think "global" is the right choice for you. Also, for the first time it is recommended to read the whole page.23:08
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JuozapasSicelo: the same problem.. maybe i must install something first?23:08
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Juozapasoh yeah..23:08
Juozapasi found :)23:09
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