IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-05-31

alteregoDocScruHeh00:00
alteregoHeh ..00:00
alteregoMy N900?00:00
alteregoI use it more than my "PC" ;)00:00
DocScrutinizershow me your PC that has standby of weeks, with resume time <50ms00:00
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alteregoOptimized power saving does not mean it's not a proper computer.00:00
DocScrutinizeryou know why meego epically fails on standby time? they think PC, not embedded00:01
alteregoIt just means it's very good when not being "in use" ..00:01
alteregoIt's true, we have about 15mA usage on stand by at the moment.00:01
DocScrutinizereven my wrist watch has a 'proper computer' inside00:01
alteregoWhich is I think 3x maemo00:01
DocScrutinizeryou NEVER do suspend-to-foobar on a system that has zeroclock00:02
SpeedEvilalterego: Of that order. Depending on what you're calling standby00:02
DocScrutinizeryou have entirely different power management paradigms on a system with e.g. SmartReflex00:03
SpeedEvilSuspend to RAM saves about half of the minimal 'zero clock' power. (to annoy Doc)00:03
alteregoSpeedEvil: stand by in maemo's terms, touch screen off, system idle.00:03
DocScrutinizercompare that to your "PC"00:03
DocScrutinizerthe paradigm is incompatible00:03
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alteregoDocScrutinizer: indeed, but then my first PC was an SA1100 based system :P00:03
DocScrutinizerthe sw devels fail at switching paradigm00:03
SpeedEvil~7.5W I think is the lowest I've gotten my PC.00:03
infobotokay, SpeedEvil00:03
SpeedEvilhuh?00:03
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* SpeedEvil sighs.00:04
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green--hi, anybody happens to know where n900 usb host mode devs sit?00:04
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DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: I know you know I know you want to annoy me00:04
alteregoHahahah00:05
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DocScrutinizerwe bth know about power in embedded00:05
SpeedEvilgreen--: What?00:05
DocScrutinizer~forget 7.5W I think00:06
infoboti forgot 7.5w i think, DocScrutinizer00:06
green--SpeedEvil: I just need somebody who has spruf98d.pdf and can share it with me ;)00:06
alteregoSo, who thinks Nokia will announce the N9(50) on Wednesday?00:06
SpeedEvilIt's not on the TI site still?00:06
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green--seems not, they purged it long ago and replaced with the newer revisions apparently00:07
SpeedEvilah00:07
JZAhi anyone know if there is subversion for fremantelle00:07
DocScrutinizergreen--: I sit on my arse ;-P00:07
* SpeedEvil checks disk.00:07
JZAi want to do some commits00:07
SpeedEvilWhat are you looking for in it?00:07
JZAspeedevil need to commit some code00:07
green--SpeedEvil: mode musb register details, as I am trying to force the hostmode (obviously) on another device00:08
green--s/mode/more/00:08
infobotgreen-- meant: SpeedEvil: more musb register details, as I am trying to force the hostmode (obviously) on another device00:08
* DocScrutinizer coughs00:08
SpeedEvilah00:08
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* SpeedEvil wonders if his DCC works.00:09
green--we can try ;)00:09
SpeedEvilGuess not.00:10
green--SpeedEvil: apparently you come from 10/8 network and your NAT does not rewrite it00:10
SpeedEvilyeah00:10
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SpeedEvilDo you have/want spru98f/spru98nosuffix00:13
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javispedroevening gentlemen.00:14
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green--I am just getting the document from somebody else's link which I assume is spru98f, no idea what the nosuffix is00:14
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javispedro"spruf98"00:15
SpeedEvilUploading now - few mins00:15
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javispedrodid TI remove it?00:17
SpeedEvilAlso - I should have remembered to do it with something that will throttle upload.00:17
SpeedEvilhttp://www.mauve.plus.com/t/00:17
SpeedEvilwhen it stops increasing in sie00:17
SpeedEvilsize00:17
SpeedEvilyes00:17
SpeedEvilThey regularly update it - adding/removing bits.00:18
javispedrolatest is from apr 2700:18
javispedrorevision r00:18
javispedroand is still available at ti.com00:18
SpeedEvilyes - but not the earlier ones.00:19
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SpeedEvilSome newer docs do not have all of the info of the later ones.00:19
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SpeedEvilgreen--: K - there00:21
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green--SpeedEvil: thanks!00:21
SpeedEvilnp00:21
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SpeedEvilWhat platform?00:21
SpeedEvilgreen--: Also - #maemo-hostmode-discussion00:23
green--SpeedEvil: the platform is nook color00:23
SpeedEvilOooh - fun.00:24
javispedroheh00:24
SpeedEvilThat's got 256M RAM too?00:24
green--512 in mine00:25
SpeedEvilhmm00:25
* SpeedEvil thinks evil thoughts.00:25
javispedroSpeedEvil: don't be ashamed, everyone seems to want it...00:26
green--it's a cool little device, and it's cheap00:26
green--and given that people were able to unlock bt not so long ago (terrible range, though) and now the usbhost, all what is left is for somebody to solder in some 3g chip and have a supercool device ;)00:27
green--(and there are 3g chip pads in place, just no chip)00:27
SpeedEvil3g 'chip' ?00:28
SpeedEvilYou mean 3g module?00:28
SpeedEviljavispedro: I was actually pondering that broken nook colours might be a handy source for 512M CPU+POP memory.00:29
green--SpeedEvil: well, I guess it's a combination ;)00:29
javispedroSpeedEvil: it is 36xx series iirc00:29
green--362100:29
javispedroSpeedEvil: not necessarily pin compatible with 34xx aiaui (if the n900 is the target of your evil joke)00:29
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SpeedEvilAh.00:30
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SpeedEvilAIUI the POP probably would be.00:30
javispedrothere was a discussion about this nearly half a year ago (started by our master in solder abilities and general hackery abill_uk)00:30
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javispedroiirc I eventually found up a guide in TI docs that talks about the necessary hw changes to migrate from 34xx/35xx to 36xx/37xx00:31
SpeedEvilI diddn't know. It's one of those things that is fundamentally possible, but unlikely to actually work.00:31
SpeedEvil(RAM upgrade)00:31
javispedroheh00:32
javispedro"In general, AM37x is a drop in replacement for OMAP35x on same PCB if "00:32
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javispedroyou need to change stuff though.00:33
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* SpeedEvil wishes again that the ipad was open, and cheaper.00:34
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GAN900Nook Color isn't a bad compromise.00:35
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SpeedEvilIndeed.00:35
javispedroam I the only that does not feel attracted to it? :D00:35
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SpeedEvilI can see it would make a handy companion to the n90000:36
javispedroI think it's way too small for a tablet and not useful as an ereader due to non eink. also, non resistive.00:36
SpeedEvilDon't you have a wepad?00:36
SpeedEvilI forget00:36
javispedronope00:37
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javispedroI have a s10-3t (aka the lenovo ideapad) whose size is ok but weighs way too much and screen angle is abysmal.00:37
Choomwhat's the problem with NOT being resistive?00:37
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Choomif there's one thing I actually dislike in the N900 it'is the resistive touchscreen00:38
SpeedEviljavispedro: Ah. I sent my s10-e back due to the screen angle.00:38
javispedroChoom: don't get me started.00:38
Choomplease do00:39
ChoomI'd really like to read it00:39
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Choomnever found anyone with a different opinion00:39
javispedroChoom: excuse me, are you from the future?00:39
SpeedEvilI find that being able to not touch the screen is positive. Also - being able to use with gloves.00:39
Choomuh?00:39
Choomwell there are capacitive styluses00:40
javispedroChoom: you did not found anyone wanting resistive in #maemo, virtually the last bastion of resistive fanatics in the entire world?00:40
javispedro*find00:41
DocScrutinizerlo javispedro00:41
javispedroevening DocScrutinizer00:41
DocScrutinizer~xyawn00:41
infobothmm... xyawn is sleep00:41
ChoomI've never debated the subject with anyone else here00:41
DocScrutinizersee? SEE?!?!00:41
DocScrutinizer~xyawn00:41
infobotwell, xyawn is nap00:41
DocScrutinizer~xyawn00:41
DocScrutinizer~xyawn00:42
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DocScrutinizertzzzz00:42
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DocScrutinizerinfobot: you're a smartass00:42
infobotI know you are but what am I?00:42
DocScrutinizer~xyawn00:42
infobothmm... xyawn is big coffee00:42
DocScrutinizerhmmmmmmm00:43
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javispedroDocScrutinizer: don't enter pupnik mode =)00:43
DocScrutinizerI already left it behind ;-P00:43
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DocScrutinizerbeen a 13 minutes period during uotime=4300:44
javispedrouh. people area ctually using my sdl gles tutorial...00:45
* javispedro should update it00:45
DocScrutinizerprobably infobot knows she has to answer sleep or nap on uptime>40h00:45
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javispedrothe latest rumor about the n9 is one of the sanest so far imo00:53
javispedroit is about that nokia will "surprise" with some new haptic feedback technology00:53
javispedroI still wouldn't bet anything on it,00:53
javispedrobut it might explain why dui/meegotouch had all those feedback stuff00:54
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achipabtw the wiki page is ambiguous about the nook color's BT but it's fully operational (hooks up to my BT headset just fine)01:03
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MohammadAGjavispedro, it also explains the prototype N900 that had that01:04
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SpeedEvilhaptic = bigger vibrator?01:05
javispedroactually the current implementation is fully software (that is, some gfx/sfx effects)01:06
javispedrothat's why I'm saying I wouldn't bet anything... so far.01:06
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: OM*F*G01:06
* MohammadAG was referring to http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19510-nokia-touchscreen-creates-texture-illusion.html01:06
kerioSpeedEvil: mmmmm01:06
MohammadAGI'm guessing that word is it doesn't have a keyboard, it creates an on screen keyboard "feel"01:06
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: the *what*?01:07
SpeedEvilI think it incidentally means that the display has to be resistive01:08
DocScrutinizerfsckng electrofriction01:08
DocScrutinizeryeah \o/01:08
DocScrutinizerindeed01:08
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javispedroI bet that means that it is surely not that.01:08
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MohammadAGlol01:08
javispedrobecause capacitive is already pretty much guaranteed.01:08
DocScrutinizerwell, hw kbd been guaranteed01:09
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keriowhy do people like capacitive screens so much?01:09
kerio:|01:09
DocScrutinizer**YAWN**01:09
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, apparently, not on the consumer device01:09
MohammadAGat least that's what most rumors are pointing at01:09
DocScrutinizerfsck NKIA01:09
keriono keyboard = no sales01:09
keriowhat the hell01:10
keriohow can they fuck it up so badly01:10
MohammadAGthe N800 worked I guess01:10
DocScrutinizerN9 is a delusion01:10
javispedro++01:10
javispedroit's just hardvaporware.01:10
MohammadAGN9 doesn't exist, or if it does, it's probably a windows phone 7 device01:10
DocScrutinizeranyway there's been this idiotic enigma on twitter01:11
kerioi really just want a n900 with more ram and a faster CPU01:11
DocScrutinizersaying "wait tik 6.1"01:11
nox-i hear duke nukem forever is coming too...01:11
nox-:)01:11
MohammadAGnox-, the N950 has to replace something01:11
javispedrokerio: <glados>you want that? well I AIN'T LET YOU!! how does that feel?</glados voice>01:11
nox-MohammadAG, replace what, the n900?01:12
ChoomI'd be happy with a capacitive touchscreen01:12
* MohammadAG looks at 720p playback thread <wheatly>Tiny little wheatly did this</wheatly>01:12
DocScrutinizer"torture me, please torure me!!!" "Noooohohohooooooo, hrhrrrhrrrrhrrr"01:12
MohammadAGnox-, no, DNF01:14
nox-haha ok01:14
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, wrong game01:14
MohammadAG:p01:14
keriosome people already have DNF01:14
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nox-heh01:15
nox-it was mentioned on tv here too01:15
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javispedrothe worst part is that it will just be a mediocre game ;)01:16
* MohammadAG won't buy it01:16
* javispedro doesn't buy shooters at all01:16
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merlin1991but it's the DUKE01:17
merlin1991javispedro: didn't you play portal2?01:17
keriojavispedro: i heard there's naked women in it01:17
MohammadAGlmao01:17
javispedromerlin1991: my entire steam collection is portal1&2.01:17
keriomerlin1991: portal 2 is not an fps01:17
merlin1991puzzle shooters ;)01:18
keriono01:18
javispedroI like to call it a "3d plataformer" =)01:18
keriothat would be something like hl201:18
MohammadAGtechnically it is, you just fire portals01:18
kerioit's a first person puzzle platformer01:18
MohammadAGjavispedro, yay, so there's someone like me!01:18
merlin1991yea, it's first person and you do carry a gun :D01:18
keriojavispedro: no, that would be super mario 6401:18
MohammadAGI also have alien swarm but that was free :p01:18
merlin1991MohammadAG: try insurgency01:18
merlin1991(free too)01:19
javispedrosm64 is also "puzzle" platformer, and portal has some bits requiring timed presses and action01:19
javispedroso they're just the same.01:19
MohammadAGLinux mohammad-i5laptop 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:19
javispedroIMHO ;)01:19
MohammadAGthat means I cba with windows ^ :P01:19
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keriojavispedro: nah, the first person is the distinguishing tract for p201:19
javispedromight be, but "first person platformer" looks ridiculous and probably can be omitted01:19
javispedroso you end up with "platformer".01:19
kerioit's definetely a platform game01:20
kerioit's also a puzzle platformer01:20
kerioand also a first person platformer01:20
kerioand hey, what do you know, it's also a first person puzzle platformer01:20
javispedroand first person portal puzzle platform shooter01:20
SpeedEviljavispedro: lemmings01:20
SpeedEvilthird person platformer01:20
keriono, you don't have a gun01:20
kerioyou have an handheld portal device01:21
javispedroit just fires portals, and requires some precision01:21
javispedroand you can even kill evil turrets with it!01:21
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* javispedro plays devil advocate01:21
kerioit doesn't fire portals, it fires physics thingies that create portals when they hit a wall01:21
kerioand it's not even projectile-based01:21
kerioit's hitscan01:22
DocScrutinizermy phone is (like) 01795088513. Got a missed call from 01785088512 - is this a known fraud?01:22
Choomprobably someone poking the neighborhood01:23
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kerioreally though, metroid prime fits the "shooter" definition better, and it's definetely *not* an FPS01:23
DocScrutinizerChoom: yeah, or trying in vain to call himself01:24
* javispedro tries to remember if there was any kind of gun in sm64..01:24
keriojavispedro: you can throw some blocks01:24
javispedrohm... cannon!01:24
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keriooh right you fire yourself01:24
kerioand it's from a first person prospective!01:24
keriodefinetely an fps then, right01:25
javispedroand this is why when the Smithsonian said they would create a videogame archive with limited places for each game _category_ everyone laughed.01:26
SpeedEvilIs nethack a FPS?01:26
keriocategory? what category?01:26
kerioSpeedEvil: not first person, sadly01:26
kerioand no guns unless you're playing the unholy abomination that is slashem01:27
* DocScrutinizer shoots his first person01:28
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kerioD:01:28
keriostop shooting!01:28
* javispedro shoots a portal on infobot for no reason01:28
kerioDocScrutinizer: you just had to add something to this conversation, didn't you01:28
kerioand now NIN101 is dead01:29
DocScrutinizeri'm suffering from IRC tourette01:29
DocScrutinizer~shoot javispedro01:30
* infobot shoots javispedro in the foot with a cork gun!01:30
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Choomkerio: LOL01:31
merlin1991fps wise is tc:e still my fav01:31
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Choom * DocScrutinizer shoots his first person01:33
Choom-!- NIN101 [~NIN101@p5DD28A3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: NIN101]01:33
Choomnothing deep01:33
DocScrutinizerI don't get those - "hide "join/quit/nick"01:34
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DocScrutinizerI'm the happier about noticing I've seen NIN101 before01:35
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dRbiGhmm, i'm trying to connect to gprs net via dbus-send but the iap name contains @ and it doesn't work - connecting to wifi for ex. works as the name is the standard x-y-z-foo style02:28
dRbiGany ideas?02:28
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bindianyone used aircrack-ng with n900?02:29
bindiairdump-ng wants iw, installing iw removes aircrack-ng02:29
bindilol02:29
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bindiairodump-ng even02:30
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DocScrutinizer51dRbiG: use proper 'enclosion'03:14
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DocScrutinizer51bindi: sounds relally funny03:15
bindiDocScrutinizer51: fixed .P03:15
bindihttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1014947&postcount=1003:15
DocScrutinizer51how?03:15
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GAN900Any good rumor mongering going on here?03:18
DocScrutinizer51at some parts of the world the 1st of june might be near03:18
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GAN900When did we decide the FCC confidentiality would expire? June 21st?03:19
DocScrutinizer51sth like that03:19
DocScrutinizer51or 2803:20
GAN900Big event is supposed to be on the 21st.03:21
nox-i wonder how many devices get approval that never really get sold...03:21
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GAN900I think I've made peace with it being capacitive.03:21
GAN900I just want something to get excited about.03:22
nox-(fcc approval i mean)03:22
DocScrutinizer51nox-: 50%03:22
nox-heh03:23
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DocScrutinizer51GAN900: MohammadAG suggested it's all about N9 and ultra innovative tactile feedback03:24
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GAN900Looks interesting03:30
GAN900We need something03:30
GAN900MeeGo is in a bad spot.03:31
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* SpeedEvil sets GAN900 on fire.03:33
* SpeedEvil watches GAN900 getting excited.03:33
* SpeedEvil sighs.03:34
SpeedEvilThe 'slow burn' - with meego turning up in IVI/... and second and third tier devices is looking more likely.03:34
SpeedEvilRather than massive announcements.03:34
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* DocScrutinizer sets meego on fire03:43
* DocScrutinizer is really missing the foundation rationale to drive the whole thing03:44
DocScrutinizerI.E. why would I want to use meego? On a phone even?03:45
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DocScrutinizerwhat's been the supposed synergy?03:46
DocScrutinizerwhat's been the monster step ahead compared to a fixed maemo03:46
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DocScrutinizeror evem smething funny like SHR (which meanwhile runs on some half dozen devices and geting better each day)03:47
GAN900Multi-vendor synergy?03:48
DocScrutinizerwait, wasn't the idea "it has more future"?03:48
GAN900I guess the idea was Android with more open and more manufacturers involved.03:48
GAN900But, well.03:48
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GAN900Intel is arrogant as heel and incapable of shipping something for consumers03:48
* DocScrutinizer pulls out the telescope to scan horizon for TRUE meego phones03:48
GAN900and Nokia is on fire.03:48
DocScrutinizerand meego is running north headlessly, while the trousers are burning - hurry up guys, it's for sure nicely cool and refreshing up there03:50
DocScrutinizermeego-arm that is03:50
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GAN900S'too bad there's very little in the way of viable open alternatives without MeeGo.03:52
DocScrutinizerSHR03:52
GAN900Meh03:52
DocScrutinizertiny but really rock solid concept03:52
GAN900Something with some vendor buyer.03:53
GAN900s/buyer/buy-in03:53
DocScrutinizerin terms of MP, you might want to wait for alterego coming up with his news03:53
DocScrutinizertake it, Nokia didn't cut it and let us down finally03:54
DocScrutinizermeego is tablet for now, zero chance to get something decent for phone working (even if they do a great job, there's one thing missing in the picture: THE PHONE)03:55
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DocScrutinizerSamsung / Raster?03:56
DocScrutinizerLG?03:56
DocScrutinizerIntel x86-phones?03:57
DocScrutinizerHTC?03:57
GAN900Yeah, it's a mess.03:57
DocScrutinizertime had come, time has gone03:57
DocScrutinizersome key players dropped it03:58
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DocScrutinizernow we're waiting for something COMPLETELY new03:58
GAN900Hey, Asus has a netbook now! *g*03:58
DocScrutinizerwhile trying home-improvement on maemo03:58
GAN900Google should've dropped by the conference with free hardware for everybody.03:59
GAN900Bet they'd have gotten a lot of converts.03:59
DocScrutinizerMOAR POWAAARRR03:59
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GonzoTheGreat_ /msg NickServ identify s1cuba005:03
* SpeedEvil ponders.05:03
* SpeedEvil decides not to go for the lulz.05:04
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SpeedEvilNone of you saw that - right?05:04
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cehteh[04:09] -NickServ- GonzoTheGreat has been ghosted.05:09
cehtehoutch :)05:09
cehtehGonzoTheGreat_: need password changing assistance? .. i guess a lot people here will help :P05:10
GonzoTheGreat_very funny05:11
cehtehreally change it now :)05:11
GonzoTheGreat_I am too stupid to use quassel05:11
GonzoTheGreat_how do I do it?05:11
cehteh /msg nickserv help05:11
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cehtehmhm seriously ....05:15
cehteh[04:15] -NickServ- You are now identified for GonzoTheGreat.05:15
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cehtehGonzoTheGreat_: seriously ... this channel is logged everyone will see your password05:16
cehtehi hope you dont use it for anything else05:16
GonzoTheGreat_Nope05:16
cehtehso changed it yet?05:17
GonzoTheGreat_How the hell do I restet it?05:17
cehteh /msg nickserv identify GonzoTheGreat s1cuba005:17
cehteh /nick GonzoTheGreat05:17
cehteh /msg nickserv setpass newpassword05:18
cehteh(at least i hope that works :P)05:18
cehtehand do not use 'newpassword' literally :P05:18
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GonzoTheGreat_chnaged now....05:22
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GonzoTheGreat_stupid interface to allow that to be posted05:23
cehteh:)05:23
cehteh[04:23] -NickServ- You are already logged in as GonzoTheGreat.05:23
cehtehhaha now how i can log out of your account :P05:23
GonzoTheGreat_anything '/msg'  should never make it through05:23
GonzoTheGreat_Is there any way to reset everything05:24
cehtehyes dalnet has some security measures it accepts plain /identify or /msg nickserv@sevices.dal.net05:24
cehtehbut well if you type a space in front of /msg you shoot in your own foot05:24
* cehteh usually types identification messages into the server window05:25
GonzoTheGreat_Must have been written by Nokia ;-)05:25
GonzoTheGreat_Yeah yeah smartarse ;-)05:25
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GonzoTheGreat_ceteh:  so anybody who has is logged in can still change it. How do I change this?05:28
cehtehno idea05:29
cehtehah there is a logout command .. dunno if that works for all05:30
cehtehrtfm :P05:30
GonzoTheGreat_could you log out please. You seem to be the only one05:30
GonzoTheGreat_bastard ;-)05:30
cehtehhaha05:30
cehteh[04:30] -NickServ- You have been logged out.05:30
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GonzoTheGreat_thanks05:31
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cehteh[04:31] -NickServ- 1 failed login since last login.05:31
cehteh[04:31] -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: pronto!~moo@unaffiliated/pronto on May 31 02:18:12 2011.05:31
cehtehhaha pronto, nice try :P05:32
prontocehteh: i had to try >.>05:32
SpeedEvilI do hope you don't share that password with anything:?05:32
prontocehteh: cant you blame me?05:32
SpeedEvilAlso - note that using passwords that leak is grounds for an automatic k-line05:32
SpeedEvilEven if you're only doing it 'as a joke'05:32
prontoheh05:33
prontoi'd just connect though another server05:33
GonzoTheGreat_Nope only facebook, work, gmail and work email05:33
cehtehhaha .. not ssh on your machine?05:33
cehtehdamnit05:33
GonzoTheGreat_sorry ssh uses ALL CAPS05:34
cehtehSpeedEvil: stupid rule, when being helpful i want to have at least a bit fun05:34
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cehtehnext time i charge money and have no fun instead05:34
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SpeedEvilJust pointing out that I've seen people banned for that.05:35
cehtehwell i dont care, i think i give freenode more than it can take from me05:35
SpeedEvil:)05:36
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cehtehbtw logger bots, yes i mean you nslu2-log! should filter such accidental password revealing out05:36
cehtehgenerally i dont like logger bots anyways and usually i forbid them where i can :P05:37
cehteh(thats is public web/googleable logs, not logging per se)05:37
GonzoTheGreat_Anyways, now the reason I am using this...05:39
GonzoTheGreat_As of last week I can't seem to get apt to work anymore with extras-devel in scratchbox (X86)05:40
GonzoTheGreat_I get: "Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-devel_dists_fremantle_free_binary-i386_Packages"05:41
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GonzoTheGreat_Tried all the usual "apt-get update; dpkg configure etc"05:41
cehtehserver broken? retry later .. or borked proxy on your way?05:41
GonzoTheGreat_Anybody any ideas? Strangely "armel" seems to work.05:41
GonzoTheGreat_No proxies05:42
cehtehlemme try05:42
cehtehmhm works for me05:43
cehtehwhat filesystem?05:43
GonzoTheGreat_ext305:44
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cehtehno idea ... but iirc you can just delete that file (better move it out of the way in case i am wrong) ... and then apt-get update again05:45
cehtehthat will re-fetch the data05:45
GonzoTheGreat_no luck there05:45
cehtehah i dont have extras installed in the sdk05:47
cehtehwell really sometimes the devel servers are out for lunch and a few hours later it suddenly works05:48
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cehtehcan you give me the sources.list line for extras?05:48
cehtehcopy'n'paste ftw :P05:49
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GonzoTheGreat_extras or extras-devel?05:49
cehtehboth05:49
GonzoTheGreat_deb  http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/  fremantle free non-free05:49
GonzoTheGreat_deb  http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3  free non-free05:49
cehtehi just installed the sdk a few days ago again .. didnt really used it yet05:49
GonzoTheGreat_apt-get update && apt-cache search qt-components05:50
GonzoTheGreat_boom05:50
cehtehd/l'ing05:50
cehtehyes same problem .. confirmed05:51
cehteheek 'mysocials' contains binary data .. i wonder if thats legal05:52
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GonzoTheGreat_huh?05:54
cehtehthere is somewhere a syntax error in that file05:54
cehtehbut anyways you can look and search it in less or your favorite editor05:55
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cehtehqt-components yields no result when grepping05:56
cehtehgrep qt-comp /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages05:56
GonzoTheGreat_which is odd05:56
cehtehi dont comment on that :)05:57
GonzoTheGreat_AFAIK It  should be there05:57
cehtehit is not05:57
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GonzoTheGreat_aah. It seems to be ARMEL only - WTF?05:59
cehtehah06:00
cehtehyes some packages are amel only06:00
cehtehthe x86 is not a general emulator but only a build environment06:00
GonzoTheGreat_Can't see why that package is ARMEL only.06:01
GonzoTheGreat_Might need to build from source06:01
cehtehwell the armel neither its just sufficient for building .. if you can run some other apps then thats pure coincidence but mostly unsupported06:01
GonzoTheGreat_I was thinking of looking into maemo5 qt-components06:01
cehtehguess why some people install the SDK on the device in a chroot06:02
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GonzoTheGreat_oh well, everything builds under X86. So just a half-bottomed jb by the package uploader06:04
GonzoTheGreat_job06:04
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GonzoTheGreat_just checked qt-components from git and the symbian ones kind of work. I assume the issues are qt version related.07:02
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myuuhey has anyone here used hatari?07:08
myuuon the n900 ofc07:08
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wblazewow, this is going to take a lot of getting used to07:54
wblazejust picked up a n900 today.07:54
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keriowblaze: did you install the CSSU already?08:26
wblazenot a thing08:26
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keriodo eeeeeeet08:28
wblazehonestly, I'd love a link to a page or thread of suggestions for new users :p08:28
kerioif you haven't already, install the latest version of maemo and then http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU08:28
wblazeI'm completely out of my depth at the moment, going through the config on the device and as much documentation as I can get my hands on, haha08:29
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kerioyeah, the n900 is weird08:29
keriobut awesome08:29
wblazeweirder still coming from all RIM devices for the past year08:30
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myuuwhoa cssu?08:36
wblazemyuu: hm?08:36
myuui havent heard of this lol08:37
myuuim still on titan08:37
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krayonmyuu: CSSU is the community picking up where Nokia left off, fixing bugs, being awesome etc08:41
myuuyeah it sounds amazing08:41
myuuhope it doesnt mess with my stuff but honestly im always excited to flash my phone for something new08:42
krayonIt's not really flashing, just installing packages.08:42
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krayonIt's great to have a phone that's just like a linux box IMHO :D08:43
myuudoesnt really mess with much?08:43
myuucause i have nitdroid/easydeb/shitidontneed08:43
krayonAh, I dunno about all that.  I've not used either of them.08:44
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psycho_oreosmyuu, I have CSSU and am using pali's kernel (kernel-power-v47)09:57
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myuuyes I installed10:21
myuuit worked fine10:21
myuufine is an understatement I suppose10:21
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edheldilspeaking of CSSU, is there any effort to implement iCal/Webcal calendars in Calendar?10:27
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krayonedheldil: That'd be cool10:31
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Juozapashi, why sometimes indicator led doesn't blink when i receive sms or im message?10:33
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divanJuozapas, maybe chat window is in focus at the moment the new message arrives?10:38
Juozapaspossible :)10:39
Juozapasbut even if the screen is locked (but conversation window is open) it doesn't blink10:40
Juozapasis it possible to somehow turn on this option ?10:40
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divanshould blink if screen is locked, yeah10:48
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JaffaMorning, all11:20
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crashanddiebi(k) = (1 − 2−8) bi(k − 1) + 2−7 sgn [dq(k)] sgn [dq(k − i)]11:21
crashanddiewoop, woop11:21
crashanddiebi(k) = (1 − 2^−8) bi(k − 1) + 2^−7 sgn [d^^q(k)] sgn [d^^q(k − i)]11:22
crashanddiesorry11:22
* chem|st falls through the door, his body bleeding all over the floor and with his last breath "The abill got me!"11:23
crashanddieNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo11:23
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* chem|st stands up "just kidding", dusts off his trousers "coffee anybody?"11:24
chem|stnothing stands a good roleplay in the morning!11:25
chem|stbut someone should wipe this floor in here11:25
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El_Angeloanyone knows why i can no longer call VOIP with cssu installed?11:26
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chem|sthey that wasn't my party on hte weekends so stop it ;)11:33
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chem|stEl_Angelo: to come back to you... please elaborate12:54
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chem|stEl_Angelo: call voip is very generic... SIP is voip Jabber is voip msn is voip skype is voip...12:58
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El_Angeloit's ok13:03
El_Angeloi found the solution myself13:03
El_Angelodidn't google before i asked ;13:03
El_Angelo;)13:03
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Mecehello13:16
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Mececan someone tell me the url to the rss2.0 feed of a thread? I think there is one, but there's no link to it.13:17
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chem|stMece: you mean on tmo?13:20
Meceyes.13:21
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chem|stMece: no idea13:26
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chem|stMece: abills "report this" fanatism is just like an rss feed...13:28
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robbiethe1stchem|st: "DELETE FROM `forumDb`.`reports` WHERE `reportFrom`='abill'"?13:31
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BCMMugh, this is taking ages...13:50
BCMMAnyone else had an N900 USB port go, and sent it to Nokia Care UK? How long did they take?13:51
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lardmanBCMM: someone was saying the other day they were simply offered a replacement of an N8 as the N900 wasn't in production anymore13:52
BCMMthat would be extremely annoying.13:53
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jaskano sane person would accept :)13:53
BCMMthat's a symbian phone, right?13:53
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jaskayeah13:53
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BCMMimho, that makes it a featurephone, in exchange for a smartphone13:54
BCMMlardman: do you know if said someone is in the UK?13:54
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lardmanthat I don't know13:55
lardmansorry13:55
lardmanit was in this channel last week iirc, so you should be able to find out who it was13:55
BCMMi'll check the logs13:55
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lardmancool13:56
BCMMit says "Product received; in repair" on the tracking thing13:56
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BCMMit was Ikarus13:57
chem|stactually I would love to have nokia sell n900 upgrade kits... bare PCBs nothing changed but CPU RAM and a compass added (NFC maybe too), kit includes new keymat and spare stylus... make it -150eur and I buy it!13:57
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alteregoBCMM: what was the nature of you nokia care issue?13:58
BCMMchem|st: and a redesigned USB port; please!13:58
chem|stBCMM: for sure13:58
alteregoI got my N900 main board replaced only 3 weeks ago (in UK)13:58
BCMMalterego: USB port failed. didn't actually fall out, but is visibly twisted and transmits neither power nor data13:58
alteregoBCMM: identical to my issue then13:59
BCMMIkarus said it was a store warranty that offered an N813:59
alteregoYeah, 7 days, got it back on the 7th13:59
BCMMnot nokia care13:59
BCMMalterego: it was gone for seven days?13:59
alteregoWell gone for 6 I got it back on the 7th14:00
fluxchem|st, cool, they would sell dozens of them! ;-)14:00
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BCMMoh, emails says "If we have not returned your items or contacted you within 7 days of receipt, please call Nokia Care, and we will be happy to assist you."14:00
chem|stflux: hundreds14:00
BCMMthat's now, but i'll give them another day because of the bank holiday14:00
BCMMalterego: thanks, that's a relief14:00
BCMMalterego: so did they actually replace the mainboard instead of just giving you a new unit?14:01
alteregoBCMM: probably best, it's literally the status page says what you just quoted, then suddly it's like "dispatched" hopefully this afternoon for you and I got it the next morning about 10am14:01
Ikarusyes it was14:01
Ikarusme14:01
alteregoBCMM: yeah, same scuffed fucked case, new IMEI etc14:02
BCMMalterego: ah, ok. so it doesn't change until they've literally turned it over to DHL14:02
Ikarusand they where Nokia Netherlands and CoolBlue (largest smartphone store here)14:02
alteregoIndeed14:02
BCMMIkarus: thanks for the info :)14:02
Ikarusso perhaps Nokia in other countries still has parts stocked or has complete phones left14:02
BCMMalterego: thanks, somewhat reassured. i think, for some reason, i was getting jumpy at how the status doesn't change14:03
alteregoBCMM: me too, I phoned them up aswell :d14:03
alteregoBut I phoned them up an literally 10 minutes later the status changed :D14:03
lardmanBCMM: ah sorry, I seem to remember the store vs Nokia warranty thing now14:07
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BCMMlardman: don't worry14:07
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CokeAny idea why mplayer, gstreamer, etc get a green tint on the front camera?14:10
alteregoTravel sickness?14:12
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BCMMCoke: i've been wondering about that14:15
lardmancamera not setup correctly14:15
lardman?14:15
BCMMor, more like wondering what applications that do not have a green tint do to avoid having it14:16
lardmando any?14:16
BCMMAFAIK mplayer doesn't do any setup14:16
BCMMlardman: in decent light, the mirror app14:16
lardmanno I meant at the driver level14:16
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lardmanBCMM: hmm, well that's open source isn't it, so you should be able to see what sort of gst pipeline it sets up14:16
merlin1991You could check the camera-ui in the cssu, maybe there's something in the code14:17
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BCMMlardman: heh, i had assumed it would all be waay over my head14:17
BCMMand then i remembered that i learned how to set up gst pipelines a few months ago, for fun14:17
BCMM(well, the basics)14:17
BCMMmerlin1991: camera-ui can shoot front-cam?14:17
* merlin1991 darkly remembers something14:18
merlin1991Hm actually can't find it now14:19
lardmanlooks like mirror applies some gamma correction14:20
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lardmanhttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/usr/bin/mirror?root=mirrorapp&view=markup14:20
lardmanL15614:20
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MohammadAGthat abill thread is lulz14:23
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MohammadAGbe back in 6 hours14:23
Cokelardman: what setup do I need to do?14:26
lardmaner?14:26
CokeI've used mplayer and gstreamer extensively with 4 different webcams and 2 different network cameras, NEVER had any problems except N90014:26
lardmanyeah it's the camera that is at fault14:27
lardmanthere is presumably some way to alter the gamma settings in mplayer, I don't know off hand though14:27
SpeedEvilCoke: Color format?14:27
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lardmanin gst you apparently need to add a gamma component and set its value to 2 (that's what Mirror does)14:27
Cokelardman: todesnt look like a gamma setting14:27
Cokeits green, not too dark14:28
Cokeit's as if it only reads the green component.14:28
lardmanhey I'm simply reporting on the mirror source code ;)14:28
Cokemplayer handles YUYV, RGB and MJPEG14:28
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Cokehere's another question: im binding my LAN IP port 9999 (tcp), but when I portscan my phone it's not open14:29
Cokeis there some sort of secret fw in between?14:29
SpeedEvilHow are you connecting the phone?14:31
Cokewifi14:32
Cokein fact, I can't even ping it14:32
Cokeno icmp response14:32
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Cokebut from the phone I can ping this machine14:32
Cokeand now, for unknown reasons, after I ran ping on the phone, the phone is pingable again14:33
CokeWTH14:33
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fluxperhaps it's some power saving related thing that doesn't quite work with your AP14:34
flux(of course, disabling power saving is a battery-suicide)14:34
SpeedEvilCoke: Route problems?14:35
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CokeSpeedEvil: dunno. anyway, only tcp works, udp doesnt14:36
SpeedEvilOdd.14:37
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singlerhello everyone, does anyone know if there is a way to forward/redirect incoming cellular N900 call to configured SIP account?14:57
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chem|strequested thread about vBulletin upgrade here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1019333#post101933315:04
chem|stsingler: redirection is a provider service not one of your phone15:05
chem|stbut sure you could write a program calling a SIP account and fwd everything on incoming calls15:06
chem|stsingler: sipgate provides cellular numbers fwd (you get a cell number attached to your account)15:07
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singlerchem|st: standart redirection is provider service, but theoretically it is possible to bridge calls, but no idea if N900 software provides this function (e.g. some sort interface to asterisk or other program)15:10
psycho_oreosjacekowski, ping15:11
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chem|stsingler: asterisk is in the repos... so in general it is available, but idk about anyone who did/tried to already15:21
singlerI could not find information if asterisk can receive N900's cellular call.15:24
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jacekowskipsycho_oreos: pong15:29
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psycho_oreosjacekowski, PM?15:29
jacekowskiok15:30
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jacekowski14:32 <psycho_oreos>  I don't accepting private messages or dialogs at this time. Please talk with  me in the public channel. { Automessage }15:33
merlin1991Lmao15:33
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psycho_oreosjacekowski, don't know why its blocking you when I've added you to the list before, I've added you again, apologies15:34
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alteregoI'd be more worried about the grammer :P15:44
billmaniaOr the spelling?15:45
alteregoAll the words are spelt correctly15:46
alteregos/accepting/accept/ is a tense error imo15:46
chem|st+115:46
billmaniaHow is grammar spelled in your native language? :-D15:47
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psycho_oreosthe script was originally from Germany :) I cbf editing it, though I could and change a whole bunch of other things to make it more English friendly :þ15:47
alteregoN9(50) will definitely be MTF for those that are interested.15:47
alteregobillmania: well, now you're just being pedantic. :D15:48
billmaniaalterego: Yup, that's me.15:48
billmaniaalterego: I am interested. Can you tell me more about the N9(50)?15:49
alteregoI can tell you most of what I know, which isn't really any more than anyone else knows.15:49
alteregoI know it's coming, don't know when, but I think soon.15:49
alteregoI know that MeeGo DE will be targetting it as well as N900 post release15:50
alteregoI also know Harmattan is still MTF15:50
alteregoBut all that info is public already, tbh.15:50
billmaniaAn N950 Maemo/Meego tablet from Nokia, as a successor product to the N900? Does MTF mean "more to follow"?15:50
alteregoMeeGo Touch Framework15:50
alteregoThe Qt based application graphics toolkit15:51
_berto_not to be confused with WTF15:51
alteregoHeh15:51
* billmania runs off to read about MeeGo Touch Framework.15:51
alteregoThat crazy thread on tmo is hillarious15:51
alteregoMaking wild guesses, when nothing has really changed wrt Harmattan device.15:52
alteregoI don't know about this so-called second device.15:52
alteregoI'm still sceptical about that one.15:53
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chris_How's the CSSU coming along?15:54
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Guest62372Anyone know the current status of the Community SSU?15:59
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ruskiehttp://www.reghardware.com/2011/05/31/review_samsung_solid_immerse_gt_b2710/16:02
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NIN101Guest62372 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU16:16
NIN101Guest62372 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog16:16
Guest62372How up-to-date is that? Last I inquired there were still some pretty big package conflict issues.16:19
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theoriginalgriGuest62372: "This page was last modified 12:01, 30 May 2011.16:56
theoriginalgri"16:56
theoriginalgriI have updated today and had no conflicts16:57
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Guest62372theoriginalgri, Thanks.17:01
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cityLights2I am spending may last hrs in Germany now17:39
DocScrutinizergeneral advice to cssu new adopers: mkdir /home/user/stock-backup; cp /usr/bin/camera-ui.launch /home/user/stock-backup/17:40
DocScrutinizer*prior* to installing cssu17:40
cityLights2so gray near karlsruhe17:40
DocScrutinizercityLights2: hope you enjoyed our rather nice weather17:41
RST38hDoc: Are you seeing title bar garbage with the latest CSSU?17:41
DocScrutinizerkarlsruhe maybe a bit too far to the west today17:41
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DocScrutinizerRST38h: still reluctant in testing it17:41
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DocScrutinizer(general advice) maybe installing backupmenu and doing a full image of rootfs and /opt is the best thing you could do prior to messing with your maemo OS17:43
DocScrutinizerthen you also can forget about the cp suggested above17:44
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inzIf anyone is interested, I'm letting maemo-hackers.org expire.18:14
inzMost of you probably didn't even know it existed ;)18:15
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theoriginalgricityLights: also gray and rain in Augsburg18:26
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trumeeContacts on my desktop dont show their availability now. I even restarted the device, but they dont show their gtalk status. anybody know what could be the issue19:11
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trumeei noticed that Sociality (facebook) app brought with it some qt dependencies, could that be the issue?19:11
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trumeeah, crap. somehow my merged contacts became unmerged.19:14
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DocScrutinizer~weather EDDN19:17
infobotNuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2011.05.31 1550 UTC; Dew Point: 53 F (12 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.85 in. Hg (1011 hPa); Relative Humidity: 46%; Sky conditions: partly cloudy; Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: 75 F (24 C); Wind: from the WNW (290 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT)19:17
cityLights2I am starting to understand why gortex is so importent in germany19:17
cityLights2I mean running shows with gortex19:17
DocScrutinizerwe're not England ;-)19:18
DocScrutinizeractually way too little rain recently19:18
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DocScrutinizerrivers and lakes falling dry19:19
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DocScrutinizerad still bright sunny weather here, everybody with a garden hoping for rain19:22
DocScrutinizer~seen MohammadAG19:22
infobotmohammadag is currently on #maemo #meego. Has said a total of 54 messages. Is idling for 4h 59m 8s, last said: 'be back in 6 hours'.19:23
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DocScrutinizermhm19:23
DocScrutinizerthat's a proper post19:23
DocScrutinizer:-)19:23
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cityLights2maybe next time I can meet maemo developers19:36
cityLights2btw my UI issue is still unsolved19:37
cityLights2but I may have a lead19:37
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MohammadAGo hai19:56
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b0unc3hello20:25
b0unc3could someone tell me how to fix this error : QObject::connect: Cannot queue arguments of type 'QNetworkConfigurationPrivatePointer' ?20:25
cityLights2o o where is the best coffee in frankfurt air port?20:31
MohammadAGtrying to access a priva5e class?20:33
MohammadAGdamn hildon20:33
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DocScrutinizerb0unc3: hard to tell anything, without any context (not that *i* could possibly help when there's better context, but at least I can tell this is a hard to answer question when put this way)20:37
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DocScrutinizeralso see20:38
DocScrutinizer~question20:38
infobotmethinks question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html20:38
DocScrutinizerand20:38
DocScrutinizer~ask20:38
infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.20:38
Sicelowho's here against their will? ;P20:39
DocScrutinizerme!!!20:39
Sicelololz.. let me help u out.. /kicban DocScrutinizer20:40
Sicelojoking :)20:41
* DocScrutinizer too20:41
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b0unc3DocScrutinizer: I know, but it's hard to provide a context sometimes ;)20:50
DocScrutinizeryeah20:51
DocScrutinizeranyway, the one sourcode line causing the error would actually help a lot, I guess20:51
DocScrutinizerchange any var names, const names etc if you think that might be needed20:52
b0unc3DocScrutinizer: the problem is that I'm trying to run a pure qml code20:53
DocScrutinizermhm20:53
b0unc3and this problem has no sense for me :(20:53
DocScrutinizerI'm out then, on this particular topic :-)20:53
b0unc3DocScrutinizer: np20:54
DocScrutinizerbut stating the error happened on running QML already provided some context20:54
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b0unc3DocScrutinizer: ok you convinced me ;)20:57
b0unc3here is a snippet that cause the error : http://pastebin.ca/207288320:57
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DocScrutinizernow I think that entitles your question to see an answer as soon as somebody familiar with QML runs into it :)21:00
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DocScrutinizerwhy does QML code like http://pastebin.ca/2072883 throw an error like >>'QObject::connect: Cannot queue arguments of type 'QNetworkConfigurationPrivatePointer'21:03
DocScrutinizerb0unc3: on your behalf ;-)21:04
b0unc3DocScrutinizer: thank you :)21:04
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Khertan_n900Hello !21:07
Khertan_n900It s me or maemo extras assistant seems down21:07
Khertan_n900everytime i try to send a .changelog file i got file upload error21:08
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b0unc3uhm..another strange thing... it looks like I can't input special chars (like ^) on a qml TextInput, anyone can confirm ?21:18
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DocScrutinizerthis *might* be a known qt bug21:20
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: ^^^ ?21:20
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MohammadAGI wonder if QML is just a C++ wrapper in the end21:21
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MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, only bug on maemo related to QNAM is some weird shit "was called more than once"21:24
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b0unc3insert chars from keyboard ( also with fn ) works fine21:26
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BCMMSo Nokia Care phoned me (about my USB-less N900). They say they can't fix it, and will replace it. They also said they were out of stock of N900s, and I could either have an N8 or wait another five days.21:29
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BCMMhow much can one ebay an unopened n8 for? how much can one get a new n900 for?21:30
BCMMoh wow, has the price of an n900 gone up since they stopped making them?21:32
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bindiugh21:35
bindimy n900 battery seems to be draining really fast since i installed CSSU and enhanced kernel-power (ulv, 125-850)21:35
bindiin 4 minutes, it has drained a whole 2% D:21:36
bindiand it's 2G and no internet connection21:36
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jacekowskihave you overclocked or some other kind of shit like that?21:38
MohammadAGhe said 850 so...21:38
bindisure, but that's less volts than the stock 60021:38
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lcukbindi, battery charge level and available power is also temp controlled, perhaps as your device cooled down it lowered?21:39
lcuk2% is statistically a blip normally?21:39
bindiit's down to 26.7% now21:39
bindifrom 32 something, 8 mins ago21:39
lcuka watched kettle never boils.21:40
DocScrutinizer~omap-oc21:41
infobotmethinks omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05  read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:1121:41
DocScrutinizernot that it's causing powerdrain by itsef, neither does PK21:43
DocScrutinizernor cssu (for all we know so far)21:43
MohammadAGother N900's been on for a week, running CSSU and stock kernel21:46
jacekowskibindi: so?21:46
bindimaybe I should get rid of the enhanced kernel21:46
bindijacekowski: hm?21:46
jacekowskibindi: it's not voltage that affects power consumption21:46
bindiI already went back to default clock settings just for lulz21:46
jacekowskibindi: frequency affects it a lot more21:46
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bindithe device seems oddly warm21:49
binditop doesnt have anything interesting though21:49
bindihmm21:50
bindi/usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/X0rg.0.log -logverbose ... was eating 15 cpu as I opened top21:50
bindinow it's going 2-4%, normal?21:50
bindi22.2% btw :P21:51
bindi(the battery)21:51
MohammadAGcheck dmesg21:53
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bindinothing interesting21:54
b0unc3ok, forget about the last complaint it was my fault ( a focus fault )21:55
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bindi18.9% :/21:59
bindiand it's sitting on the table, screen off obviously21:59
MohammadAGwhat does top show?22:00
bindithat log thingy eats the most22:00
bindi2-4%22:00
dRbiGDocScrutinizer: lol - the @32@ tokens in the IAP name have to be replaced with single space, and then you have to enclose the whole string22:00
dRbiGgreat, @32@ what an invention22:01
MohammadAGXorg is the X server, not a "log" thing22:01
bindihmm22:01
MohammadAGso I'd assume your SGX is messed up, and won't be fixed till you reboot22:02
MohammadAGof course knowing bme, by the time you reboot you'll have 0 battery22:02
bindiMohammadAG: I know but i referred to it as the log thing :-)22:02
bindigonna reboot22:03
bindiI pressed pgdn in terminal, Xorg ate 75% and hildon-desktop 14%.. normal?22:03
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MohammadAGnot really, no22:04
bindilol22:05
bindi5.9% battery now22:05
lcukbindi, are those battery levels normalised and inclusive or exclusive of the default system low battery buffering?22:05
bindiwait what22:06
lcuk(because if battery got flat totally you owuld not be able to instantly retry booting from it ;)22:06
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bindiI have no idea what you just said lol22:06
bindi73 mAh left D:22:06
lcukI am not so sure either, just carry on with your monitoring22:06
lcukbtw22:06
lcuk"it is just before five past eight."22:07
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bindiso what exactly is the problem here22:07
bindi<.<22:07
lcuk"it is five past eight."22:08
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MohammadAGreboot22:08
bindiAgain? D:22:08
lcukbindi, nothing, you are giving status updates about your battery22:08
lcukI am reporting on the time22:08
bindiah, ok22:08
lcuk"it is just after five past eight"22:08
MohammadAGlcuk, the device shuts down at 1 past 522:08
MohammadAGmAh22:08
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lcukMohammadAG, does it use a spoon to do that?22:08
MohammadAGAgain? I assume you rebooted?22:09
bindiyes22:09
bindiand 15% of the charge disappeared22:09
MohammadAGwhat does top say now?22:09
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MohammadAGwell, bme is retarded so that 15 percent probably never existed22:09
bindiI just charged it 3 hours ago <.<22:10
Juozapasis it very difficult to write a script which checks when connect to wireless network if is it Network1 and if it is then open terminal window and run command ?22:10
bindiXorg is still 2-5%, others <1%22:10
lcukbindi, I am reciting from: http://liqbase.net/liq.20110531_200647.ciroclock_minutes_12h_time.scr.png22:10
MohammadAG2-5 is acceptable22:10
bindigood for you22:10
bindiMohammadAG: still pressing pgup/dn makes xorg jump to 70%22:11
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willer_maemo extra assistant seems to be down, anyone can confirm? I got: "File upload error."22:11
bindiperhaps I should charge it full and see how the battery drains now?22:11
MohammadAGosso-xterm causes that, I suggest reading over ssh22:11
Juozapasand this bug still on grr http://www.flickr.com/photos/59703047@N05/5460137490/in/photostream22:11
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bindidont see anything out of order in here22:12
bindiomap2_mcspi jumping to 1-2% every now and then but thats it22:13
binditop and sshd eating 1%, and others barely anything22:14
bindibarely nothing even22:15
bindithe drain seems to be stable now though22:16
bindiand the device is colder22:16
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lcukis per chip/feature power drain now detectable?22:17
lcukor is it still a general overall and guestimate?22:17
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Sazpaimonis there a way to use the N900 as a USB bluetooth adapter22:24
Sazpaimonlike, say I wanted to use my BH-905 on my desktop, but lack a bluetooth adapter, can I use the N900 with the usb cable as a passthru to the desktop?22:26
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teilzeitstudentthat would actually be fun. but i dont think it'll work the way you describe it. but maybe you can use a pc suite mode/pulse audio server combo? no idea how, though.22:32
Sazpaimonyeah probably a better way would be to make the N900 become a bluetooth dongle22:33
Sazpaimonwouldnt a pulseaudio server require i stream all sound to my N900?22:34
Sazpaimonkind of overkill if you ask me22:34
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jacekowskiSazpaimon: you could do it22:35
jacekowskiSazpaimon: as in hardware can do it22:35
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jacekowskiSazpaimon: there is no software however22:35
teilzeitstudentyou can use different "sound cards" for different applications. i.e. make everything use the default, built-in stuff and your audio player the n900 one. at least under linux it works22:35
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Sazpaimonjacekowski, you mean no drivers that can communicate with the bluetooth reciever on the pc side?22:36
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jacekowskino drivers on n900 side22:38
Sazpaimonah22:38
jacekowskin900 can emulate any usb device22:38
jacekowskias long as you write drivers for that22:38
Sazpaimonguess I'll bite the bullet and get one of those cheapo usb bluetooth dongles22:39
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jacekowskii have small one that's barely bigger than usb port itsef22:40
jacekowskiitself22:40
Sazpaimonyeah22:40
Sazpaimonif I can spend $200 on headphones, I can spend another $5 on a usb dongle22:40
jacekowski$200 on bluetooth headphones?22:41
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Sazpaimonits the nokia bh-905i22:41
jacekowskii have "nice" motorola headphones22:41
Sazpaimonthey're really not bad for noise cancelling headphones22:41
jacekowskibluetooth ones22:42
_trinehow can you remove an update notification for an update you dont want22:42
jacekowskiand i've never seen worse headphones22:42
Sazpaimon_trine, hold back the package22:42
jacekowskii mean it works nicely over cable22:42
DocScrutinizerdRbiG: sounds like you're talking about wpa keys or sth - sorry I lost context somewhere on my stack22:42
jacekowskibut over bluetooth it's piece of crap22:42
_trineSazpaimon, yes how would I do that22:42
Sazpaimonjacekowski, thats what I was afraid of with these phones, but they actually perform really well over bluetooth22:42
Sazpaimon_trine,  sudo echo "packagename hold" | dpkg --set-selections22:43
Sazpaimonor aptitude hold packagename22:44
Sazpaimonif you have aptitude22:44
Sazpaimonim not completely sure if that stops HAM for annoying you, but it should22:44
_trineIts telling me to update the firmware but its already at 1.322:45
_trineI have 2 n900's and they have both got the same update today22:46
DocScrutinizerthat sounds strange22:46
Sazpaimonare you sure that isn't CSSU?22:47
_trineMaemo 522:47
Sazpaimonthere was a CSSU update yesterday22:47
DocScrutinizerthere's been no maemo5 update lately22:47
_trinedont know what a CSSU is22:47
DocScrutinizerthe community softeware-repository22:47
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DocScrutinizer~cssu22:47
infobot[cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU22:48
_trineMaemo 5 20.20.10.36-2 is what its saying22:49
_trineit says it has problems which are22:49
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keks-nsup22:50
keks-nI've got a reboot loop22:50
_trinemissing 0sso-wlan(=3.0.20+0m5)22:50
keks-nwith kernel power22:50
keks-nIt booted perfectly with multiboot before22:50
keks-nBut I've removed multiboot and installed kernel-power and kernel-power-flasher22:51
_trineit might be because I updated the osso I think yesterday so it could be related22:51
_trinebut I would just like to get rid of the notification22:51
keks-nStill can boot the original kernel from the original firmware22:51
keks-nAny ideas?22:51
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_trinehow do I type the pipe command on the n900 KB22:56
keks-nYou have to modify the keymap22:57
_trineah ok22:57
keks-nBTW, how does uboot work?22:57
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keks-nI've tried to flash it, but see no any menus22:58
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keks-nonly reboots in a loop22:58
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DocScrutinizersigh!!!!23:03
myuuhi23:04
Creteilhttp://www.youtube.com/v/k2H-SOqbQoA lol23:04
myuuno menus?23:04
_trinekeks-n, you could reflash the phone completely23:04
myuuI dont use uboot per say23:04
myuubut my boot manager requires the keyboard to be open23:05
keks-nI can just reinstall multiboot, I think23:05
myuuotherwise it will boot into the last one23:05
_trineplug it into the usb cable and keep the 'u' key pressed23:05
_trinethen it will let you flash it23:05
keks-nBut I want to have ubuntu running on my device23:05
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keks-nAnd I cann't run it with multiboot23:05
myuuhave you tried easydeb?23:05
myuuI mean I know its not the same23:05
keks-nIt's very slow -_-23:06
Creteilhttp://www.youtube.com/v/T819usZLQtE :-)23:06
keks-nAnd it's just lenny23:06
keks-nWhich is outdated23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:26:52] <DocScrutinizer> the worst thing about it: if it does, you're back to a rootfs+kernel reflash23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:27:35] <DocScrutinizer> usual diagnose: kernel doesn't match modules -> bootloop -> you have to reflash23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:28:09] <DocScrutinizer> recover other than reflash is difficult at best, usually mere impossible23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:29:28] <DocScrutinizer> standard user quote: "I installed nitdroid, then I installed powerkernel, now device does bootloop. HLP PLZZZ!"23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:30:19] <DocScrutinizer> s/installed powerkernel/updated to new powerkernel/23:06
DocScrutinizer[2011-05-31 18:31:03] <DocScrutinizer> there are an arbitrary number of variations to the theme ;-)23:06
DocScrutinizerPLEASE SEE /topic!!!23:07
myuulol23:07
keks-nHm, I've managed to run kernel-power-4623:07
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keks-nBut still have no idea about setting up multiboot23:08
keks-ns/multiboot/uboot/23:08
infobotkeks-n meant: But still have no idea about setting up uboot23:08
keks-nwow23:08
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Scorcereris there a way to create shortcut to command line app (bash) on desktop?23:09
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keks-nYou should run osso-xterm23:10
DocScrutinizerqueenBeecon23:10
keks-nwith your app in the cmdline23:10
Scorcereryeah, but i'm trying to replace busybox/ash with coreutils/bash, and don't want to end with dev that needs reflash (so no digging in shadow)23:11
keks-nEhm23:12
Scorcererand i figured the easiest way would be shortcut to xterm/bash and all coreutils aliased in .bashrc23:12
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Scorcereror there is better way ?23:12
keks-nDid you tried usermod -s /bin/bash user?23:12
Scorcererafter reading some forum posts i thought it will result in my n900 not booting anymore...23:13
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keks-n[1|root@Nokia-N900|~]uname -a23:14
keks-nLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power47 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 3 20:40:52 EEST 2011 armv7l unknown23:14
keks-nwtf23:14
keks-nSo I have to rebuild uboot-power with new kernel image, right?23:14
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cityLights2where is 0x47 ?23:16
keks-nwut?23:16
keks-nkey <AB04>  { [     v,              V,              slash,                  bar,                    Cyrillic_em,            Cyrillic_EM,            slash,23:18
keks-nI have something like that23:18
keks-nFor |23:18
keks-nWhen I press Shift+Fn+V23:18
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Scorcererok, so i changed ma default user shell to bash, now i've got a couple of new questions:23:21
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Scorcerer1. can i add keychain startup to .bashrc, or will that stop my device from booting ?23:21
keks-nEhm23:21
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keks-nJust try, lol23:22
keks-nAnyway you can boot a resque image23:22
Scorcerer2. why isn't defalt prompt look like user@device~: but smth like bash-2.0~: ?23:22
keks-nhttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/ - did you read it?23:23
Scorcererno, but i will in a moment23:23
keks-nThe simplest prompt would be a single character, such as:[giles@nikola giles]$ PS1=$23:23
keks-n$ls23:23
keks-nbin   mail23:23
keks-n$23:23
Scorcereris there an easy way to replace busybox with coreutils, or i need to alias all commands in bashrc ?23:23
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keks-nI think you can just fix the PATH variable23:24
keks-nIt your /etc/profile (it looks like that .bashrc isn't executed always23:24
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keks-ns/It /In /23:25
infobotkeks-n meant: In your /etc/profile (it looks like that .bashrc isn't executed always23:25
Scorcererthanks :)23:26
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ArkenoiIf i switch to an alternative browser, can i kill browserd forever so it would not eat up memory?23:34
keks-nYou may lose chats in this case23:35
Arkenoidamn23:35
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ruskiewhat do chats have to do with browserd?23:39
Robot101the chat UI embeds browser views to render the chats23:40
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ruskiewell wouldn't it just lanuch it if it needs it?23:40
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Robot101yeah but that means it will keep being started - so it wouldn't be "killed forever" like Arkenoi asked23:41
D_Centhi, how can i get the lock screen with a slider for my n900? i don't want it to ask me for a code every time i lock it23:41
ruskieerm23:42
ruskiedisable the code?23:42
ruskieto get the slider hit the power button while the screen is offline23:42
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D_Centhow can i do that? if i press change and leave the code empty, i cannot press the accept button23:42
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DocScrutinizerScorcerer: I got bash installed, coreutils and *-gnu installed, and I have /usr/bin/gnu first pos in my $PATH23:43
DocScrutinizerScorcerer: I'm not sure if changing user's default shell is safe meanwhile - has and still may cause bootloop23:44
Scorcereri managed to get keychain auto-starting with bash (i copied my bashrc rom laptop, where it first checks if it's interactive shell...)23:44
Scorcererdidn't cause bootloop here23:44
Scorcererat least, not yet (i rebooted it once, like 5 mins ago)23:45
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ScorcererDocScrutinizer: and if you don't have bash as default shell, then after each xterm start you first type 'bash' ?23:47
DocScrutinizerI think it's not bash that's causing bootloops, but some of the idiosyncrasies of busybox builtins that the initscripts rely on. So a setup with bash as default shell may work as long as it's still calling busybox for things like ls, ln, mount, whatnot. It may break at random time when you install the related *utils pkg23:47
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DocScrutinizerScorcerer: indeed I'm doing this right now, though feeling a bit foolish with it23:48
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DocScrutinizerbut I can't give advice as I haven't tested better ways to setup23:48
Scorcererthat's where my first question comes in: is it possible to make custom shortcut on desktop ?23:48
DocScrutinizerhmmm, you could call xterm with some ENV var set23:49
Scorcererif it's doable, then we'll make custom xterm running bash and whatnot :)23:49
DocScrutinizeror even call xterm to execute bash23:49
Scorcerersee? much better :)23:49
DocScrutinizerxterm itself is agnostic about the shell it runs I'd guess23:50
DocScrutinizerIt may run /bin/sh, dunno23:51
DocScrutinizerhad to RTFM23:51
Scorcererfor now it rund default shell23:51
DocScrutinizercheck how midnight-commander icon works23:51
Scorcererwhere are desktop shortcuts stored ?23:52
DocScrutinizer/usr/share/application/hildon  or sth23:52
keks-nStill cann't run u-boot23:52
keks-nEven with compiled with the new kernel23:53
Scorcererthanks23:53
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DocScrutinizerExec=osso-xterm -e mc23:55
DocScrutinizerfor midnight-commander23:55
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DocScrutinizer-e bash should suffice23:55
Scorcereryup23:56
Scorcererit works23:56
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Funnyfacewow samba is slow on the N900 :S23:57
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Funnyface0.3MB/s23:58
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