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| internetishard | Are passwords for accounts like skype easy to retreive? | 00:13 |
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| internetishard | I remember wep keys were stored in cleartext | 00:14 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: hey buddy | 00:30 |
| internetishard | yo | 00:31 |
| internetishard | :> | 00:31 |
| MohammadAG | sup ZogG | 00:35 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, | 00:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | нщ | 00:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | yo | 00:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: is there any docs provided how to work with maemo cal? | 00:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | cal nad contacs? | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | and* | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | contacts* | 00:36 |
| MohammadAG | cal? | 00:37 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | iwas out | 00:38 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | lol | 00:38 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | so MohammadAG ? | 00:38 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | am i out again? | 00:40 |
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| ds3 | ARRRRRGGGGG BAD UPDATES BAD | 00:40 |
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| Spydemon | have someone installed the Maemo SDK with scratchbox on Arch Linux ? | 00:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: I published a tmo thread about howto recover wlan passwords | 00:47 |
| internetishard | yeah, I was trying to recover a skype password | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc about skype | 00:48 |
| internetishard | nfc? | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | never touched it since I left betatester crew due to skype R&D leads are gasheads | 00:48 |
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| internetishard | well, this isn't skype, I'm talking about the Accounts thing in maemo | 00:49 |
| internetishard | that does SIP, skype, etc | 00:49 |
| internetishard | those passwords^ | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | there my tmo post | 00:49 |
| MohammadAG | I thought all rtcom passwords are stored as plaintex | 00:50 |
| MohammadAG | t | 00:50 |
| MohammadAG | can't remember the bug report on it | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea about skype and aother contacts | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | bug report?!! MUHAHAHA | 00:50 |
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| internetishard | Yeah, I figured all those (apparently "rtcom") passwords were stored as cleartext | 00:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | in ~/.config/rt-com/iqehxnökjxdbebz | 00:51 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | something like that | 00:51 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: hey | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | i got camera | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | moro,w would send u a pic | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | yw? | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~yw | 00:52 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, yw is you're welcome | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | tomorow | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | tomorrow | 00:52 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | it's double m or r | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | got it | 00:53 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | tommorow | 00:53 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | i just forget things like that lol | 00:53 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: is there any api to work with contacts and calendar? | 00:53 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | i found interesting thing | 00:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG_laptop_: ->wiki | 00:54 |
| internetishard | don't see a .config/rt-com | 00:54 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop_, osso-abook | 00:54 |
| MohammadAG | there's also Qt Mobility | 00:54 |
| * MohammadAG coughs | 00:54 | |
| ZogG_laptop_ | what is better | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: grep <knowpassword> ~ | 00:54 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | and what is better for C ? | 00:54 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | damn that movie was not bad | 00:54 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | cameron is not bad director though avatar sucked | 00:55 |
| MohammadAG | the native API is always better | 00:55 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: does it has C API ? | 00:55 |
| MohammadAG | it is C | 00:55 |
| MohammadAG | native language on maemo is C | 00:56 |
| internetishard | knowpassword? | 00:56 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: good | 00:56 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: but calendar is still closed right? | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Generic_Platform_Components/Using_Address_Book_API | 00:57 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/calendar-backend/ | 00:59 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | found it | 00:59 |
| MohammadAG | having an API != the component has to be open | 00:59 |
| internetishard | sooo... how do I find this password? | 00:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Data_Management | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Data_Management#Contacts_.28Addressbook.29 | 01:01 |
| internetishard | Is that for me? | 01:01 |
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| internetishard | To find the password for rt-com stuff? | 01:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's for you: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/RTCOM | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/RTCOM#osso-accounts | 01:02 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: i more interested in calendar for now | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooops | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, got out of rails on second & 3rd | 01:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | Kilroo1: is cloning itself | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | eh? | 01:04 |
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| BCMM | anyone else find their n900 shutting down when it is supposed to reboot? | 01:07 |
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| internetishard | How long does it take you guys to open up an sms convo with a lot of history? | 01:10 |
| internetishard | it takes me like 5s, longer than to reply to someone | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ZogG_laptop_: found this in my bookmarks: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/libosso-abook/OssoABookAggregator.html#osso-abook-aggregator-find-contacts-for-phone-number | 01:10 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: i wanna start with calendar | 01:11 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | wanna try something out | 01:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | damndamndamndamn, /me takes outtime | 01:11 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: but thanks anyway | 01:12 |
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| troulouliou | hi quick help please, what is the line to add to source.list to enable maemo devel and testing on scratchnox | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: ~user/.rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: I bet skype is different | 01:20 |
| internetishard | skype is in there, but no passwords are | 01:20 |
| internetishard | for anything, I think | 01:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | internetishard: what are u trying to do? | 01:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: SIP passwords are in there | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's how I found it (well, I knew what to search for and where :-] ) | 01:50 |
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| internetishard | ZogG_laptop_: was just trying to recover a skype password | 02:21 |
| internetishard | I just did it the accepted way | 02:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | internetishard: there is recover on website | 02:23 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | much easier and it's there just for that cases | 02:23 |
| Venemo | hey ZogG_laptop_ :) | 02:24 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | Venemo: рун | 02:25 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | hey | 02:25 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | sup man | 02:25 |
| internetishard | yeah, that's how I did it, but I just wanted to see if I could do it without that | 02:25 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | long time no talk | 02:25 |
| Venemo | yeah :) | 02:25 |
| Venemo | what's up with your app ZogG_laptop_ :) | 02:25 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | don't know | 02:26 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | had a lot of stuff to do and now my n900 is dead =( | 02:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | how about u? | 02:28 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | what's new? | 02:28 |
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| ZogG_laptop_ | Venemo: do u have free time? | 02:31 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | i mean not now but at all? | 02:31 |
| Venemo | ZogG_laptop_, yes, probably next week. | 02:31 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | Venemo: i'll PM | 02:31 |
| Venemo | ZogG_laptop_, I have plenty of school stuff this week, and then family stuff at the weekend | 02:31 |
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| Venemo | ZogG_laptop_, you can always ask questions, but I can't code/look at code in depth until next week | 02:32 |
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| lopz | hi | 02:42 |
| lopz | how copy text selection on textview? | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ctrl-c | 02:43 |
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| lopz | I use: self.textbuffer.get_text(self.textbuffer.get_selection_bounds()) | 02:44 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | ctrl-c is much cooler | 02:44 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | though your option is more sexy | 02:44 |
| lopz | in linux pc works fine, but the n900 does not work: ( | 02:44 |
| ZogG_laptop_ | lopz is from jeniffier lopez? | 02:45 |
| lopz | I do not want to use the keyboard, I select a word and use it for anything x | 02:45 |
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| lopz | ZogG_laptop_, lopz != jennifer lopez | 02:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | I only have 7, and quite fast | 03:53 |
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| ds3 | anyone know what's the deal with apt-worker constantly spinning its wheels whenever I try to look at something in app manager? | 07:16 |
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| Sazpaimon | ds3, do you have extras-testing? | 07:33 |
| Sazpaimon | it's usually caused by the giant mass of packages in extras-testing | 07:33 |
| Sazpaimon | either disable it or use fapman | 07:33 |
| Sazpaimon | or just use commandline like a real man | 07:34 |
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| ds3 | Sazpaimon: yes I do | 07:37 |
| Sazpaimon | i never use HAM for that reason | 07:40 |
| ds3 | let me give FAP another try; I was crashing the earlier versions | 07:42 |
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| psychologe | hello everybady here | 08:37 |
| psychologe | hello world | 08:37 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: yes, why not? | 08:38 |
| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, because it depends on bsdmainutils | 08:38 |
| Sazpaimon | which uninstalls busybox | 08:39 |
| Sazpaimon | which screws everything up | 08:39 |
| Sazpaimon | i could force it, assuming busybox gives the stuff debhelper needs | 08:39 |
| slonopotamus | don't uninstall busybox | 08:40 |
| Sazpaimon | obviously | 08:40 |
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| Sazpaimon | hmm, there's a man-db-n900, maybe that'll satisfy debhelper | 08:41 |
| * slonopotamus tries to remember how he installed debhelper | 08:42 | |
| Sazpaimon | I'm installing debhelper7, by the way | 08:43 |
| Sazpaimon | i'd also like to remove all of this build packages from the N900 once I'm done | 08:43 |
| slonopotamus | debhelper7 == even more fscked up debhelper | 08:43 |
| Sazpaimon | this has a compat of 6, so debhelper wont do | 08:44 |
| Sazpaimon | though to be honest, ive never had an issue with debhelper7 before | 08:44 |
| Sazpaimon | all I need to do is build this one package and transfer it to the sdk box | 08:45 |
| Sazpaimon | since the sdk won't compile it, qemu segfaults for whatever reason | 08:45 |
| slonopotamus | hehe | 08:45 |
| Sazpaimon | if there was a way to use a more recent qemu build on scratchbox, maybe then my life would be easier | 08:45 |
| psychologe | i want study python ,but i can't find document about python ui for n900 | 08:45 |
| Sazpaimon | qemu apparently doesn't like compiling programs that depend on asm | 08:46 |
| Sazpaimon | surprise there | 08:46 |
| slonopotamus | psycho_oreos: pygtk | 08:46 |
| Sazpaimon | rapidly running out of rootfs space... | 08:47 |
| slonopotamus | scratchbox isn't qemu, it's some totally patched fork | 08:47 |
| Sazpaimon | only 3.5MB left | 08:47 |
| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, yeah, i meant scratchbox | 08:48 |
| Sazpaimon | big piece of junk to be honest | 08:48 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: it is safe to symlink many stuff from /usr/share/ to 2gb partition | 08:48 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: /usr/share/perl, for ex | 08:48 |
| Sazpaimon | doesnt CSSU already do tha | 08:49 |
| Sazpaimon | or is that just with python | 08:49 |
| slonopotamus | there is some hackery with python, yep | 08:49 |
| Sazpaimon | looks like a good deal of perl stuff is already symlinked | 08:50 |
| Sazpaimon | okay, looks like i can safely --force-depends debhelper7 | 08:52 |
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| Sazpaimon | oh hey look at that | 08:53 |
| Sazpaimon | find: unrecognized: -exec | 08:53 |
| Sazpaimon | thanks busybox | 08:53 |
| ruskie | hehe | 08:53 |
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| Sazpaimon | busybox: Conflicts: findutils | 08:54 |
| Sazpaimon | llllllllllllll | 08:54 |
| ruskie | wrong findutils | 08:54 |
| ruskie | search for gnu in the repos | 08:54 |
| Sazpaimon | findutils-gnu i assume | 08:54 |
| ruskie | findutils - metapackage iirc | 08:54 |
| ruskie | findutils-gnu or gnu-findutils ought to be there | 08:55 |
| Sazpaimon | how do I get apt to shut up about debhelper7 needing man-db | 08:55 |
| slonopotamus | hmm, po-debconf gone somewhere | 08:55 |
| Sazpaimon | i have man-db-n900 installed which should satisfy it | 08:55 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: oh no, how you're going to use debhelper without man pages? <sarcasm> | 08:55 |
| pupnik_ | wb slonopotamus | 08:56 |
| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, like i said, i have man-db-n900, so that should be sufficient enough | 08:56 |
| Sazpaimon | i just need apt to ignore the fact that it needs man-db | 08:56 |
| Sazpaimon | because it wont do anything until i "resolve" this | 08:57 |
| slonopotamus | pupnik_: i didn't go away :) | 08:57 |
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| pupnik_ | welcome back into my coneof perception then :) | 08:57 |
| slonopotamus | :) | 08:58 |
| Sazpaimon | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/equivs here's a good solution | 08:58 |
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| Sazpaimon | of course equivs needs debhelper, and not debhelper7 | 08:59 |
| Sazpaimon | so in in and of itself has a dependency error | 08:59 |
| Sazpaimon | I'll just install equivs on the sdk, and make the packages i need there and transfer them to the N900 | 09:00 |
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| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: did you enable sdk and tools repos? | 09:01 |
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| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, I enabled the sdk repo | 09:02 |
| Sazpaimon | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~] > fakeroot equivs-build man-db | 09:03 |
| Sazpaimon | hostname: cannot set hostname to `--fqdn': Operation not permitted | 09:03 |
| Sazpaimon | the hell? | 09:03 |
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| slonopotamus | busybox hostname doesn't know --fqdn flag | 09:03 |
| Sazpaimon | this is on scratchbox | 09:03 |
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| slonopotamus | afaik, it has short alternative | 09:03 |
| slonopotamus | like, hostname -f | 09:04 |
| Sazpaimon | which wont allow you to change the hostname apparently | 09:04 |
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| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: it doesn't want to change hostname, it wants fully qualified hostname | 09:04 |
| krayon | Sazpaimon: I didn't think you could ever change the FQDN in linux using hostname | 09:04 |
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| Sazpaimon | so what is scratchbox complaining about | 09:05 |
| slonopotamus | busybox hostname doesn'thave --fqdn flag | 09:05 |
| slonopotamus | so it thinks you want to set hostname to that string | 09:05 |
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| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, but I'm using scratchbox, doesn't that use sh or bash or something | 09:06 |
| slonopotamus | okay, sbox hostname doesn't have that flag | 09:06 |
| Sazpaimon | so what would be the equivalent, just hostname? | 09:07 |
| slonopotamus | fix calling script to use hostname -f | 09:07 |
| Sazpaimon | hostname: cannot set hostname to `-f': Operation not permitted | 09:07 |
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| Sazpaimon | all hostname has is --help and --version | 09:07 |
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| Sazpaimon | i think I just need to install coreutils-gnu on scratchbox | 09:08 |
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| Sazpaimon | nope, that doesn't have it | 09:09 |
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| Sazpaimon | looks like i need to build debian's hostname package | 09:12 |
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| Sazpaimon | shouldnt be a biggie, it's pretty small and simple | 09:12 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: i think you screwed up something. http://dpaste.org/ynGK/ | 09:12 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: no man-db | 09:13 |
| Sazpaimon | slonopotamus, debhelper7 needed man-db | 09:13 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe not debhelper | 09:13 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: repos enabled: extras-*, sdk, tools | 09:14 |
| Sazpaimon | wait wait wait | 09:14 |
| Sazpaimon | did debhelper get a version bump to 7? | 09:14 |
| slonopotamus | that's why i said debhelper7 is fucked up | 09:14 |
| Sazpaimon | aksdklas;djas; | 09:14 |
| Sazpaimon | when did this happen | 09:14 |
| slonopotamus | or i didn't... | 09:15 |
| Sazpaimon | when the hell did this happen | 09:15 |
| Sazpaimon | february it seems | 09:16 |
| Sazpaimon | why does nobody tell me these things | 09:16 |
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| slonopotamus_ | meh, network issues | 09:19 |
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| slonopotamus_ | 3g coverage in subway could be better... | 09:20 |
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| Sazpaimon | next cevat, autoreconf doenst seem to be supplied by anything | 09:20 |
| slonopotamus | it's from autoconf, isn't it? | 09:20 |
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| Sazpaimon | oh wait, autoconf DOES have it | 09:20 |
| Sazpaimon | so why is this build failing | 09:20 |
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| slonopotamus | i think you want build-essentials | 09:21 |
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| Sazpaimon | bash: /usr/bin/autoreconf: /scratchbox/tools/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory | 09:21 |
| Sazpaimon | uh | 09:21 |
| slonopotamus | some scripts have borked sheband line | 09:21 |
| Sazpaimon | ah | 09:21 |
| Sazpaimon | i have build-essentials | 09:21 |
| slonopotamus | run a sed through /usr/bin and replace "scratchbox/tools" with "usr" | 09:21 |
| Sazpaimon | so i need to manually fix these scripts | 09:21 |
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| Sazpaimon | suddenly my rootfs went to 100% without me doing anything | 09:27 |
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| slonopotamus_ | i strongly recommend moving stuff from /usr/share to 2gb-partition. running out of rootfs is likely to break maemo | 09:29 |
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| Sazpaimon | i removed a few unneeded packages that were taking up rootfs space | 09:32 |
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| Sazpaimon | that'll put a bandaid on it for now | 09:32 |
| Sazpaimon | it's 2AM, i dont want to muck around with the system files | 09:33 |
| Sazpaimon | **Error**: You must have autoconf 2.63 or later installed. | 09:33 |
| Sazpaimon | :D | 09:33 |
| Sazpaimon | of course maemo doesnt supply that version | 09:33 |
| Sazpaimon | there's an autoconf in maemo gitorious though | 09:34 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe I can use that | 09:34 |
| Sazpaimon | okay, that seemed to work, that version of autoconf needs debianutils but screw it, I dont care I'll force it | 09:38 |
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| Sazpaimon | oh man it actually made it to configure this time | 09:52 |
| Sazpaimon | needs grep-gnu | 09:52 |
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| ruskie | http://wins.failblog.org/2011/04/19/epic-win-photos-cancelled-class-win/ <-- FTW | 12:39 |
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| Khertan1 | Morning | 13:00 |
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| RST38h | "The US Army has announced that it will soon throw open an Android dev kit allowing apps to be written for use by soldiers on a variety of combat handsets and devices." | 13:56 |
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| RST38h | [the real question though is WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE AN APP STORE?] | 13:56 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't think the military will work like that internally | 13:57 |
| ruskie | they might | 13:57 |
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| psycho_oreos | military is just like any large company/organisation with trade secrets that are to be kept within the company/organisation itself | 13:58 |
| ruskie | not for the actual in-combat gear... but possibly stuff that soldiers can use in their personal time | 13:58 |
| ruskie | on their personal kit that is | 13:59 |
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| psycho_oreos | you guys ran badblocks -w on N900 whilst its hooked onto computer via mass storage mode? thinking of doing it after getting incredibly slow performance and getting loads of bad blocks through mkfs.vfat | 14:00 |
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| ruskie | I'd say using vfat is the main issue really | 14:01 |
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| psycho_oreos | well I intend to leave it as vfat or things like camera won't work with exotic filesystems (nice one nokia) | 14:03 |
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| ruskie | psycho_oreos, camera works fine with exotic FSes... | 14:04 |
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| ruskie | I have ext3(everything else) and ext4(sd) on my n900 | 14:04 |
| psycho_oreos | ruskie, o.O it did? I tried ext3 last time and the camera cannot save the captured image | 14:04 |
| ruskie | the problem with the camera is that it's locked to needing an actualy mount point to save to... can't be just a dir | 14:04 |
| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: badblocks doesn't make sens on mmc | 14:04 |
| jaska | cant be a bind mount?:) | 14:05 |
| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: The blocks are not real blocks. If you're seeing errors on MMC, there is no alternative but to get it warranty repaired. | 14:05 |
| ruskie | jaska, it could possibly | 14:05 |
| ruskie | not sure | 14:05 |
| psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, though according to this thread it seems like it helped: http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-50506.html | 14:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Though I note that someone has reported swapping the emmc with success | 14:05 |
| jaska | havent tested, just sprung to mind | 14:05 |
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| ruskie | hmm it only gives me on offer User data and the SD card when I try to change it | 14:06 |
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| psycho_oreos | ruskie, yeah that I'm not too sure as yet on going about tackling it, the last I recall trying, everytime taking photos it just won't save | 14:06 |
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| ruskie | psycho_oreos, well I've been using this config ever since I upgraded to 1.3 | 14:06 |
| ruskie | which was when... last year... | 14:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: It shouldn't - with a sane implementation ofear leveling in the SD. - who knows though | 14:07 |
| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: I just made mydocs 4G | 14:07 |
| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: works for me | 14:07 |
| psycho_oreos | ruskie, hmm I don't recall when I last tried using camera with ext3 for mmc, might have been pr1.2 but I can't say for certain | 14:07 |
| ruskie | psycho_oreos, the main thing is that /home/user/MyDocs needs to be a mounted FS | 14:08 |
| psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, *shrugs* I'm gonna give badblocks a few run and seeing if I can get better mileage out of my mmc | 14:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Hope it works. | 14:08 |
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| psycho_oreos | ruskie, yeah I did that :) manually added entry into /etc/fstab declaring it as ext3, though I recall vaguely that every reboot when mmc was stuck as ext3, I kept getting a popup banner about unsupported format or something | 14:09 |
| psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, hope it won't do something evil to my n900 lol, I'm reluctant to hand my n900 into nokia | 14:10 |
| ruskie | psycho_oreos, fstab isn't actually used | 14:10 |
| ruskie | it gets recreated on each boot | 14:10 |
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| ruskie | unless you hammer adjust init scripts | 14:10 |
| ruskie | they call a genfstab.awk or something like that | 14:11 |
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| psycho_oreos | ruskie, nah I think I made it immutable | 14:11 |
| ruskie | doesn't really help | 14:11 |
| ruskie | it won't be used | 14:11 |
| ruskie | mount doesn't actually use it | 14:11 |
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| ruskie | because all mounts are done as mount /a /b | 14:11 |
| ruskie | so it ignores stuff in fstab | 14:11 |
| psycho_oreos | hmm | 14:11 |
| ruskie | I really really need to make my use_fstab fixes get put into cssu | 14:12 |
| psycho_oreos | guess I'll have to have a look at it again | 14:12 |
| ruskie | you can check User:Ruskie wiki page about it | 14:12 |
| ruskie | should help you figure it out a bit more | 14:12 |
| ruskie | I seriously loathe the m5 init setup... | 14:13 |
| psycho_oreos | oh yeah speaking of making immutable stuff, I really hated how trackerd.conf gets overwritten automatically, all the ignore directories I've set previously are made unignored hence it starts scanning stuff from audiobooks directory and adding them in. Since making that conf file immutable I've been getting sed errors lol | 14:14 |
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| ruskie | hmm haven't seen that | 14:14 |
| ruskie | my ignore dirs were actually ignored all the time | 14:14 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah I recall you had a note on making a portion of mmc as ext3 or something like that. I plan to make the entire mmc ext3 | 14:14 |
| psycho_oreos | mine wasn't | 14:15 |
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| ruskie | I have entire mmc repartitioned | 14:15 |
| ruskie | but still split | 14:15 |
| ruskie | /home is the biggest | 14:15 |
| psycho_oreos | between /home/user and /home/user/MyDocs ? | 14:15 |
| ruskie | /opt and a symlink to /home/opt is probably ~2-4G... | 14:15 |
| ruskie | and /home/user/MyDocs is 2-4G iirc | 14:15 |
| ruskie | /home - 21G ; /opt - 4G ; /home/user/MyDocs - 5G | 14:16 |
| ruskie | something along those lines | 14:16 |
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| ruskie | rounding errors not counted and FS overhead as well | 14:17 |
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| psycho_oreos | I'll look at the guide in a bit afterwards, also reminds me of checking which fs would treat flash memories nicer than others and seeing if they are available for n900 in some form | 14:18 |
| ruskie | well anything with journal could potentially cause issues | 14:19 |
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| psycho_oreos | notably ext3 :D | 14:19 |
| psycho_oreos | then again ext3 can support single filesizes over 4G, unlike FAT32 and potentially ext2 | 14:20 |
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| ruskie | I thought ext2 doesn't have issue with FS | 14:21 |
| ruskie | anyway if running with a kernel that supports ext4 that can be helpful | 14:22 |
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| psycho_oreos | no, what I meant was that ext2 probably doesn't allow one to store a single file that has a size above 4G | 14:22 |
| ruskie | erm I'm rather sure it does | 14:22 |
| psycho_oreos | titan's power kernel has ext4 irc | 14:22 |
| ruskie | Max file size16 GB - 2 TB | 14:23 |
| psycho_oreos | if ext2 does then you have saved me for looking at other FS lol :D | 14:23 |
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| ruskie | yeah that's ext2 | 14:23 |
| ruskie | it depends on the block size... but 16gb is with 1KB block size | 14:24 |
| ruskie | 2KB is 256G... after that it's 2TB | 14:24 |
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| totalizator | my n800 got into a reboot loop, but only when I choose to boot from SD card, flash boot works fine, any ideas why and how can I fix it? | 14:32 |
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| psycho_oreos | hmm running this badblocks -w on mmc (N900) I guess judging by the speeds reported via gkrellm the mmc performs as fast as class10? :D | 15:04 |
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| ShadowJK | Class X is minimum sequential write performance on a fresh card. | 15:09 |
| ShadowJK | It says nothing about average, maximum or non-sequential access or mixed read/write access | 15:09 |
| ShadowJK | not to mention a used card | 15:09 |
| liar | is anyone of you running wine (built for x86) on his n900 :)? | 15:12 |
| joga | ...how? | 15:12 |
| robbiethe1st | You'd be running Wine on top of Qemu | 15:12 |
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| joga | sounds blazing fast | 15:13 |
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| liar | yeah wine on top of a x86 chroot | 15:14 |
| ShadowJK | you can't run x8y chroot on arm | 15:15 |
| ShadowJK | x86* | 15:15 |
| psycho_oreos | and class rating is reserved for sd -_-'. In terms of linear writing the mmc I suspect performs at similar speeds to topram 32gb class10 microsd | 15:15 |
| liar | you can... qemu user mode emulation^^ | 15:15 |
| ShadowJK | That's not chroot | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | well.. | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | i guess you'd do both :) | 15:16 |
| liar | i do both | 15:17 |
| liar | :) | 15:17 |
| psycho_oreos | the terminology isn't used quite correctly :p | 15:17 |
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| nusse | hello maemo-world | 15:48 |
| Spydemon | did someone knows how transfer a binary from scratchbox to N900 ? :-\ | 15:48 |
| nusse | does the jabberclient support http-binding? | 15:48 |
| nusse | Spydemon: scp? | 15:48 |
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| Spydemon | nusse, so i must install ssh on my phone, and connect him to internet ? | 15:50 |
| Spydemon | can't i use a easier way ? | 15:50 |
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| nusse | mount the phone using your desktop and use cp? | 15:54 |
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| the_lord | Hi! I'm getting a memory not accessible. unable to save content in the camera app | 15:55 |
| the_lord | I've already fsck'ed my MyDocs partition | 15:56 |
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| psycho_oreos | Spydemon, you could just use mass storage mode and transfer the binary across from there | 16:08 |
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| psycho_oreos | any of you have clues as to which nand it is on N900 (as mmc)? I can see its Toshiba, but is it onenand or just nand? | 16:23 |
| SpeedEvil | The MMC is not onenand | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | it's emmc | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | *sigh* I stepped on my N900, after dropping it to the floor :-(( Rugged quality, still works, but rather scratched frame and case now | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | This is a mmc card in a wirrd BGA | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | wierd | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 16:25 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh its nand, damn | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | It's managed NAND. | 16:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | The onenand is unmanaged | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | for the particular build see my highres scans | 16:27 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah I don't know whats the difference between that as well, I do recall seeing onenand errors at boot, those must be related to that rootfs | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | rootfs is on that 256MB oneNAND | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | PoP | 16:27 |
| SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: onenand errors are expected, and should be managed properly by the kernel. | 16:27 |
| SpeedEvil | Nokia-N900:/sys/class/ubi/ubi0# cat bad_peb_count | 16:28 |
| SpeedEvil | 1 | 16:28 |
| SpeedEvil | For example - my onenand has one bad block | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah now we're back to that gane | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | game :-) | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | 0 | 16:29 |
| jaska | 0 \o/ | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | and 0 | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | The emmc pretends to be a perfect error-free device. | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | always, until it ceases to work | 16:31 |
| SpeedEvil | And has no way of signalling to the user that it's about to run out of spare blocks. | 16:31 |
| SpeedEvil | At which time random bad stuff happens. | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 16:31 |
| trx | 8 o_O | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | np | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think everything under a few dozen is OK | 16:33 |
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| SpeedEvil | reserved_for_bad here is 20 | 16:33 |
| SpeedEvil | So I suspect that >20 would be bad | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | would need some action to fix | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | like new lowlevel formating | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | but also would be a sign of pending trouble | 16:34 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.toshiba.com/taec/Catalog/Line.do?familyid=7&lineid=900195 | 16:36 |
| SpeedEvil | wow | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | 128G | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | eh? | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | oops | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | did I get confused on B and b | 16:37 |
| * SpeedEvil sighs | 16:37 | |
| SpeedEvil | Oh - no | 16:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nope, that's clearly GBytes | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | which means it's up to 4 times we got on N900 now | 16:39 |
| GAN900 | Be very, very frightened. | 16:40 |
| SpeedEvil | I think in principle it'd be a straight swap. | 16:40 |
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| SpeedEvil | GAN900: http://xkcd.com/691/ ? | 16:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | THOSHIBA THGBM1G8D8EBA12 R76244 JAPAN 0936MBE http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/n900/ | 16:45 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - I googled that a while back, and got a store selling them quite cheap | 16:45 |
| SpeedEvil | not now though | 16:46 |
| crashanddie | hahaha | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think those are standardized interface and footprint | 16:48 |
| crashanddie | One of my devs, not very good with spelling | 16:48 |
| crashanddie | Implemented a feature on the VoIP server to track the RTP packets going in and out | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | VoIP server? o.O You mean gateway? | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | or do you relay? | 16:49 |
| crashanddie | "read_write_list_field(cunt_paquet, T_system_voip_paquet_cunt *)" | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 16:49 |
| trx | haha | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | hail sed | 16:50 |
| MohammadAG | hildon has that fyi | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | built-in cunts? | 16:50 |
| MohammadAG | dbus_cunt, it's the phone app I think | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | hihihihi | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | the dbus connection to the phone app is called dbus_cunt | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | I'm guessing cause it's closed source | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha | 16:51 |
| trx | hahaha | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | rotfl | 16:51 |
| psycho_oreos | thanks for the info guys, I went away on phone call, and now am having to play the catchup mode :) I should probably get myself a supper whilst at it | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: wait a minute... | 16:52 |
| psycho_oreos | yup? | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/pjd/papers/fast10-flash.pdf | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | for an extended supper | 16:53 |
| psycho_oreos | lol :D | 16:53 |
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| psycho_oreos | for that I think I'll need coffee, not ideal at this time of night for me. I'll have a quick scan through and have a good look tomorrow morning | 16:54 |
| psycho_oreos | thanks again | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | FTL is the main difference between oneNAND and (e)MMC | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | it's a gboolean actually, indicates an active call & screen locked | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/master/src/util/hd-dbus.c#line29 | 16:56 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, thanks, you just gave empirical proof that geeks can't hack their way into closed cunts ;) | 16:56 |
| crashanddie | actually, that one is GPL, so it's an open cunt... | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 16:56 |
| crashanddie | ok, enough of that, otherwise I'll have to kick myself | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | lmfao | 16:57 |
| psycho_oreos | mmmm making me really hungry ;) | 16:57 |
| psycho_oreos | private cunt vs public cunt | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | private cunt - LOL | 16:57 |
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| MohammadAG | crashanddie, so wait, they can't hack into open ones either? | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can't hack any cunt. Cunt will hack you | 16:58 |
| MohammadAG | this ain't soviet russia :P | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | cunts are worst of soviet all over the world | 16:59 |
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| crashanddie | MohammadAG, ever seen American Pie? | 17:00 |
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| MohammadAG | crashanddie, 7 :p | 17:00 |
| Khertan1 | hum ... my works adsl is so slow.... 2 hours to get my own qt4.7.2 package | 17:00 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, nerd gets open pu... "platform" presented to him, and fails before ever getting close. | 17:00 |
| Khertan1 | s/works adsl/adsl at work | 17:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw look at D5200 p.3 schematics. LOL - 10 data pins (incl CMD and CLK), and some 50 nah 100 GND pins :-P | 17:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ok, there are another 5 + 4 + 1 pins for different VDD | 17:11 |
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| luke-jr | wasn't there a Google Voice module for Maemo? O.o | 17:19 |
| ZogG | luke-jr i thik it was | 17:20 |
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| ZogG | check TMO | 17:20 |
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| merlin1991 | X-Fade: ping | 17:21 |
| Sazpaimon | of course the build fails while I'm asleep | 17:21 |
| luke-jr | yeah, I see it on http://maemo.org/packages/view/telepathy-theonering/ but not in pkg list | 17:21 |
| ZogG | luke-jr еруку цфы ыщьуерштп удыу фы цудд ш ерштл | 17:23 |
| ZogG | oops | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: was this you who considered buying spare speakers? | 17:23 |
| luke-jr | no | 17:23 |
| ZogG | there was something else as well i think | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | pupnik_: you? | 17:23 |
| luke-jr | Google Voice Plugin for Conversations and Calls | 17:24 |
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| Sazpaimon | of course the damn build fails in my sleep due to rootfs running out of space | 17:25 |
| Sazpaimon | i hate building on an N900 | 17:25 |
| Sazpaimon | i hate it | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | yay | 17:25 |
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| Sazpaimon | i swear once this gets built the first thing I'm gonna do is nuke build_essenial | 17:27 |
| E0x | n900 support microSDHC ? | 17:28 |
| jaska | yeah.. i have a 32GB microsdhc in mine | 17:29 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, jacekowski http://i.imgur.com/SEett.jpg | 17:29 |
| E0x | jaska: cool , thx | 17:29 |
| jaska | have yet to find microsdxc anywhere tho.. | 17:29 |
| jaska | 64 gig+ ones | 17:29 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, jacekowski http://i.imgur.com/PEp1U.jpg | 17:29 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, i still have chance right/ | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: yes, you're lucky as all 5 electric pads seem OK. You'll need to use epoxy though to fix the rcptcl to main board as the mech support pads are mostly broken | 17:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the small copper dots are the left over vias, while the copper colored areas on rcptcl are where the pads got off and won't solder | 17:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | rctcl itself seems broken, all 5 pins luckily stuck to PCB main board | 17:36 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer on second pic you can see pads have a little bit solid and i'll use eproxy or really good glue | 17:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the FPC to daughter board has a weird angle, maybe it's only the photo perspective | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | epoxy glue | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | plug in a waxed USB plug while gluing | 17:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | to avoid the epoxy glue clogs the receptacle | 17:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wax it to avoid the plug getting glued permanently into receptacle | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | or you actually dare using a thru-hole type receptacle and drill holes to the mainboard | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | for the mech supports only!! | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | NOT for the electrical 5 pins | 17:41 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer ьур шэдд пдгу ше | 17:42 |
| ZogG | meh i'll glue it | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 17:42 |
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| ZogG | waiting for connector part i ordered | 17:42 |
| pupnik_ | DocScrutinizer: I | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | for increased ruggedness you may consider soldering or gluing a support metal sheet in top of next shielding can and USB rcptcl | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | pupnik_: I got mine from ownta, all ok | 17:44 |
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| pupnik_ | are they a different build-type that happens to fit? | 17:45 |
| pupnik_ | do they look like the speakers pictures on their website, or the speakers pictured in my photos | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | I got 4 like those N81(?) that look like the ones in my N900 (ordered 4 actually) - plus one that looks like the picture they got on the N900 offer | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno why they still keep the wrong photo for the N900 speakers | 17:47 |
| pupnik_ | ok ty | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | even less I know why they sent me one of those speakers for free | 17:48 |
| pupnik_ | perhaps they sent it because of the email you sent | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, probably | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, my err report(?) is on their product page now | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | the link to correct picture doesn't work anymore | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | but the N81(?) speaker is still there | 17:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: what's with your FPC to daughter board? why does it look like 105° instead of 90° ? | 17:53 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer ? | 17:53 |
| ZogG | FPS? | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | the "ribbon" left of USB pads | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | flat plastic connector | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | the brown flimsy thing | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | take care of it! | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | if it breaks there's no way to fix it | 17:54 |
| ZogG | אישא בםממקבאד איק ןברםSD? | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | uhuh | 17:55 |
| ZogG | that connect microSD? | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 17:55 |
| ZogG | oh | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | and camera flash LED | 17:55 |
| ZogG | it's ok | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's ill-looking on those photos | 17:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe it's just perspectivw | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe it's just perspective | 17:56 |
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| ZogG | it's not straigh but it's on it's plcae for sure | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, you'll 'only' lose microSD and flashlight | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I think it's yous a bit bent, and that makes the photo look weird | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/yous/just/ | 18:00 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: I think it's just a bit bent, and that makes the photo look weird | 18:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: anyway good luck! | 18:03 |
| ZogG | thanx | 18:03 |
| ZogG | i'll be back! tadadaaa | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | make sure you thoroughly clean the areas to glue, with trichlor and a brush or sth | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | scratch the green areas | 18:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or use sandpaper | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | also scratch the silver areas | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | remove the broken loose contact pins from PCB with a hot iron first of all. You don't want them around when soldering the new rctcl | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | use electronic(!!) flux for soldering | 18:08 |
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| ZogG | i'll give my friend he knows what to do... i hope =) | 18:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tape a plastic or wood stick (lolly, icecream...) to main and daughter PCB, to protect the FPC | 18:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | don't worry about the (scotch) tape, the PCBs won't mind pulling it off again | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | also protect lens of camera with a patch of sticky tape | 18:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and of course you want to remove the PCB from lower half of housing | 18:16 |
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| ZogG | http://i.imgur.com/Uyhxg.jpg | 18:27 |
| ZogG | pray =) | 18:28 |
| nid0 | 5 people failed | 18:28 |
| ZogG | they would crash | 18:29 |
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| OkropNick | I need external power bank for N900. Is it 3.7V enough to charge it? | 19:06 |
| slonopotamus | doubt. 5V should be fine (that's what usb has, isn't it?) | 19:07 |
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| OkropNick | I don't know, that's why I am asking... | 19:10 |
| Venemo | OkropNick, the battery is 3.7V | 19:11 |
| OkropNick | yes, but if I would like to charge it from battery power bank - it should have 5V at output? | 19:11 |
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| ShadowJK | The charger chip needs something like 4.6V to function, I believe | 19:14 |
| OkropNick | Ok, thanks | 19:15 |
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| ShadowJK | But most sensible external power banks actually have a boost converter to boost their internal 3.7V (nominal) battery to 5V | 19:20 |
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| Sazpaimon | oh my god this program is *still* building | 19:47 |
| Sazpaimon | 8 hours later | 19:47 |
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| Sazpaimon | remind me never to build anything for an N900 *on* an N900 ever again | 19:48 |
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| wmarone__ | yeah it's not the fastest thing in the world | 19:49 |
| wmarone__ | though I suspect your big killer is IO | 19:49 |
| ZogG | Sazpaimon lol | 19:50 |
| ZogG | compiling=) | 19:50 |
| Sazpaimon | wmarone__, yeah i tried ocing to 1100 and it didn't change the speed at all | 19:50 |
| Sazpaimon | it just got hotter | 19:50 |
| wmarone__ | yeah | 19:50 |
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| wmarone__ | it probably builds faster, but you just spend all the time waiting on disk IO | 19:50 |
| Sazpaimon | it probably would have taken less time to fix scratchbox | 19:51 |
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| Sazpaimon | though i dont think scratchbox's qemu can compile asm very well | 19:52 |
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| Sazpaimon | i think it's been building the same 10 files over and over again | 19:55 |
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| Sazpaimon | sometimes I hate debian's build process | 19:55 |
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| Sazpaimon | why does it recompile a program from scratch for a different package | 19:55 |
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| Sazpaimon | the .o files don't change between builds, its mostly just configure options | 19:56 |
| slonopotamus | use ccache? | 19:56 |
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| slonopotamus | or try updating sbox qemu to newer one | 19:58 |
| Sazpaimon | i asked earlier if that can be done and I never got a response | 19:58 |
| slonopotamus | why not? | 19:58 |
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| Sazpaimon | because i was told before that scratchbox's qemu is hacked up | 19:59 |
| Sazpaimon | can i just replace the qemu-arm-sb with a newer qemu-arm? | 19:59 |
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| slonopotamus | you can try at least. i guess it should work | 19:59 |
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| slonopotamus | from my experiments, most stable arm emulation is in qemu-0.12.{4,5} currently | 20:07 |
| slonopotamus | 0.13.x and 0.14.x segfault from time to time | 20:08 |
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| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: wait, you said you have troubles compiling asm. doesn't sbox use i386 gcc/binutils? | 20:13 |
| slonopotamus | Sazpaimon: i mean, crosscompiler | 20:13 |
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| 50UAAK1V7 | My charger port broke again | 21:15 |
| 50UAAK1V7 | Is it safe to charge the BL-5J with a N97 mini? | 21:15 |
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| ZogG | 50UAAK1V7 i think so | 21:21 |
| ZogG | was it break physicly? | 21:21 |
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| frals | lcuk: replied to your email... for some reason exchange deemed it worthy of the junk mail folder :P | 21:38 |
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| lcuk | frals, because there was no bodytext | 21:41 |
| frals | ya | 21:41 |
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| lcuk | haven't seen your reply though yet lol | 21:42 |
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| penguinbait | elsie :) | 21:43 |
| penguinbait | UK | 21:43 |
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| lcuk | ello penguinbait \o | 21:44 |
| penguinbait | I can't look at the word luck without my dyslexia kicking in | 21:44 |
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| frals | le coq | 21:45 |
| lcuk | I do hope luck is on my side :) | 21:45 |
| frals | so when are you coming to HEL so we can go to hemingways lcuk? | 21:45 |
| lcuk | :D frals, did you see qole's jacket at the conference? | 21:45 |
| frals | nope | 21:46 |
| penguinbait | pimp constume? | 21:46 |
| frals | better make it soon or else none will be here to join you ;) | 21:46 |
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| lcuk | penguinbait, no, simpler | 21:46 |
| lcuk | he got a nice tweet jacket and cap | 21:46 |
| lcuk | frals, I will bring my n900 on tour asap | 21:47 |
| penguinbait | http://penguinbait.com/thegang.jpg | 21:47 |
| lcuk | Sampo keeps tempting me by reminding about the pizza | 21:47 |
| * lcuk wants a kebab from there | 21:47 | |
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| penguinbait | http://penguinbait.com/pimp-qole.jpg | 21:48 |
| frals | lol | 21:49 |
| penguinbait | http://penguinbait.com/qgilcouncil.jpg | 21:49 |
| penguinbait | thats the one I was looking for | 21:49 |
| 50UAAK1V7 | ZogG: It didn't get hot, has the same voltage and same connectors. Only issue was I had to run ntpd -d to fix the time | 21:50 |
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| penguinbait | or the collect all 6 pic - http://penguinbait.com/collectall6.jpg | 21:50 |
| penguinbait | the evil penguin overlord | 21:51 |
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| penguinbait | ah the good ole days | 21:53 |
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| lcuk | penguinbait, we never did choose a mascot | 21:56 |
| lcuk | or did we? | 21:56 |
| penguinbait | don't think so | 21:56 |
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| penguinbait | I say we use qgil with that pimp costume, http://penguinbait.com/pimp-quim.jpg | 21:59 |
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| Venemo | penguinbait, these pics are LOL | 22:01 |
| penguinbait | It took me a few to find them on talk, its hard to believe its been almost 3 years since then | 22:04 |
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| GAN900 | qole tweed was rockin' | 22:06 |
| GAN900 | s/qole/qole's/ | 22:06 |
| infobot | GAN900 meant: qole's tweed was rockin' | 22:06 |
| penguinbait | more than this http://penguinbait.com/pimp-ga.jpg | 22:07 |
| penguinbait | ? | 22:07 |
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| pupnik_ | very funny | 22:08 |
| pupnik_ | i need an outfit like that | 22:09 |
| Khertan | still no leaked pictures of the n950 ? | 22:09 |
| pupnik_ | nice job penguinbait | 22:10 |
| penguinbait | don't forget the evil pb http://penguinbait.com/evil-pb.jpg | 22:11 |
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| pupnik_ | what's an image hosting service that accepts tiny gifs? | 22:15 |
| pupnik_ | nice :D | 22:16 |
| GAN900 | penguibait, much classier. | 22:16 |
| Khertan | http://www.meegotabletcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/nokia-meego.jpg | 22:16 |
| Khertan | http://img2.generation-nt.com/nokia-n9-leak-01_090258018E00672861.jpg <<< the "rumored" n9 didn't look so bad | 22:17 |
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| mece | Khertan, unfortunately that one got cancelled | 22:18 |
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| mece | or so I hear. | 22:18 |
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| zakkkkmm | anyone know why in maemo,when i send a sms message, it sends it twice to the person? | 22:23 |
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| Khertan | mece: yep i hear that too. Probably a microsoft conflict | 22:27 |
| Khertan | zakkkkmm: because your phone operator sucks | 22:27 |
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| Khertan | zakkkkmm: there is no reason it send it twice | 22:27 |
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| zakkkkmm | it didnt happen with other phones. | 22:27 |
| zakkkkmm | this is my 3rd phone | 22:28 |
| mece | Khertan, well regardless, It's bad for people who want a proper device. Rumors strongly suggest no keyboard for N950 :/ | 22:28 |
| Khertan | mece: ?hu? | 22:28 |
| mece | zakkkkmm, peculiar. | 22:28 |
| trx | maybe you press "send" twice? | 22:28 |
| Khertan | mece: seriously ... | 22:28 |
| SpeedEvil | Works for me. (single SMSs) | 22:28 |
| mece | Khertan, 's what I hear. | 22:28 |
| zakkkkmm | just once, it happening to all my sms messages. | 22:28 |
| * SpeedEvil stabs the messenger. | 22:28 | |
| mece | LOL | 22:28 |
| Khertan | mece: it ll a stupid decision, or maybe a intelligent one if they don't want meego to eat their ms phone | 22:29 |
| Khertan | sales | 22:29 |
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| Sazpaimon | uh, why does fakeroot segfault on my n900 | 22:33 |
| GAN900 | Rumors are probably pretty meaningless at this point. | 22:34 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah. | 22:34 |
| Khertan | GAN900: true | 22:34 |
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| penguinbait | I thought LG made the rumor? | 22:35 |
| Khertan | noone want to compile vim with +python for n900 ? | 22:35 |
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| mece | Khertan, perhaps. Might also be this one: http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tablet_14.jpg | 22:39 |
| mece | Khertan, regarding meaningless rumors... | 22:39 |
| Khertan | mece: we'll be funny to see people using that for phoning | 22:40 |
| Khertan | ... must go on | 22:40 |
| Khertan | bye | 22:40 |
| mece | hehe | 22:40 |
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| Sazpaimon | Khertan, it'd basically be like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhk_OL-5aVo | 22:54 |
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| infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/council/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 25d 22h 39m 10s ago, saying: 'resembles Segoe. Serves them well....'. | 23:08 |
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| infobot | i haven't seen 'stephenelop', thomasjfox | 23:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | lol | 23:24 |
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| kwtm | preparing for PR 1.3.3.7. Is it a " | 23:36 |
| kwtm | preparing for PR 1.3.3.7. Is it a "combined Fiasco image" reflash, just like updating from PR 1.2 to PR 1.3? Do I need to reflash eMMC? | 23:36 |
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