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| DocScrutinizer | *sigh* | 00:02 |
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| n900-stuff | what happened doc? | 00:08 |
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| pupnik | thanks for python-numpy jacekowski | 00:18 |
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| pupnik | why the f--- does mypaint require a scientific computing library | 00:18 |
| pupnik | oh no, no, no | 00:19 |
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| pupnik | nooooooo :( lib/mypaintlib.i:PyObject * gdkpixbuf_numeric2numpy(PyObject * gdk_pixbuf_pixels_array); | 00:19 |
| Proteous | ? | 00:20 |
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| pupnik | it's slow Proteous . the program is dog-slow | 00:21 |
| pupnik | draw a long sketchy stroke, wait 5 seconds for it to appear slow | 00:22 |
| Proteous | I see | 00:22 |
| Proteous | heh | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot/apt got sick and is in hospital, hope she's well again soon | 00:22 |
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| pupnik | lib/stroke.py: data = numpy.array(self.tmp_event_list, dtype='float64') | 00:23 |
| jacekowski | did she caught a virus? | 00:23 |
| pupnik | i hate everything | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: possibly, or a freenode poisoning | 00:24 |
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| infobot | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer) | 00:25 |
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| GAN900 | pupnik, but everything had nothing but good things to say about you. :P | 00:30 |
| pupnik | nice | 00:31 |
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| pupnik | one thing though, the community did a great job building libraries for n900 | 00:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack | 00:35 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer: aw, gee | 00:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pupnik: LOL | 00:38 |
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| pupnik | well | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | (for float64) | 00:39 |
| pupnik | yeah that's inner-loop stuff | 00:40 |
| pupnik | and they're calling a generic 'scientific computing' library within it with not a care in the world | 00:40 |
| pupnik | 'now we can do everything! weee!' | 00:40 |
| Sazpaimon | guys | 00:41 |
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| Sazpaimon | hey guys | 00:41 |
| GAN900 | hey! | 00:42 |
| Sazpaimon | building apache is a terrible thing | 00:42 |
| GAN900 | listen! | 00:42 |
| Sazpaimon | especially when all i want to do is apt-get -b source php | 00:42 |
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| pupnik | Sazpaimon: building things can be difficult | 00:48 |
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| Proteous | someone hit the z button plz | 00:50 |
| FauxFaux | z | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | z | 00:50 |
| Proteous | sorry, legend of zelda joke continuation | 00:51 |
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| MohammadAG | killing dsme is a bad bad thing to do | 00:56 |
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| Proteous | heh | 00:59 |
| SpeedEvil | 'They shoot DSME's, don't they'. | 01:00 |
| MohammadAG | I was trying to strace it | 01:00 |
| MohammadAG | screen won't turn on, mce was running through dsme | 01:01 |
| MohammadAG | meh, this sucks | 01:01 |
| MohammadAG | at least there's a way to disable mass storage mode without unplugging the cable | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | cut the cable | 01:01 |
| MohammadAG | there actually is a way :P | 01:02 |
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| MohammadAG | umount, osso-usb-mass-storage-disable.sh, ke-recv-test de | 01:02 |
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| Sazpaimon | pupnik, building apache never gave me this much trouble | 01:07 |
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| Sazpaimon | qemu segfaults whenever it starts the apache2 binary, which is part of the debian build process | 01:08 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, how can one monitor sysfs changes? | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | kevents | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | KernelEvents-RECeiVe | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | see? | 01:19 |
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| MohammadAG | wait, so ke-recv is that o_O | 01:20 |
| MohammadAG | I'm thinking of rewriting the status menu applet for USB | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/gadget-lun?/file | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | /dev/mmcblk1 | 01:21 |
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| MohammadAG | that's when the device is mounted on a host | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | after it's unmount/ejected from the host: | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/gadget-lun?/file | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | wow, how retarded | 01:22 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# osso-usb-mass-storage-is-used.sh; echo $? | 01:22 |
| MohammadAG | 0 | 01:22 |
| MohammadAG | it's just the applet that doesn't update the GUI until the cable's unplugged | 01:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lol | 01:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | probably because that sysnode doesn't support kevents? that would mean the applet had to poll, and it'S a sane thing they don't do it | 01:24 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I can think of an easy way | 01:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | try ke-recv-test to emulate the cable-pull | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | keep the button enabled | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | doesn't change the applet, already tried it | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-( | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | if the user clicks the button, check if the device is mounted | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | if so, bitch about it, if not, allow USB mode change | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | this eliminates the need to poll | 01:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | can't follow | 01:27 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, right now, the applet switches from a button to a label if a USB mode is set right? | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | which one? | 01:29 |
| MohammadAG | the USB applet | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | USB? never seen that as a button | 01:29 |
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| MohammadAG | plug a cable in, tap outside the dialog | 01:29 |
| MohammadAG | it's a button if it's in "Charging only" | 01:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oh | 01:30 |
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| MohammadAG | now, instead of switching to a label, keep it as a button, even in mass storage mode | 01:31 |
| pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucbHzgQ0kU latest Mypaint 0.8.2 speed on n900 | 01:31 |
| MohammadAG | if the user clicks it, check if those files are empty (i.e device ejected), and allow changing modes | 01:31 |
| pupnik | ^ doc, if you have 32 seconds | 01:31 |
| MohammadAG | if the files aren't empty (device mounted), display a hildon notification "Oi, device is mounted, eject it first or yank the cable out" | 01:31 |
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| pupnik | http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-droid-3-leaks-again-with-5-row-qwerty-keyboard-dual-core-20110316/ dual-core phone with 5-row keyboard | 03:01 |
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| pupnik | my god, if that could run linux... | 03:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Android is linux. | 03:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Just not gnu/linux | 03:08 |
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| pupnik | pedant :) | 03:17 |
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| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: it's nto Linux either | 03:18 |
| luke-jr | it's a fork | 03:18 |
| pupnik | i was afraid hardware keyboards would become endangered species | 03:21 |
| luke-jr | they are | 03:21 |
| luke-jr | good ones even moreso | 03:21 |
| pupnik | well compare today and 2007 | 03:22 |
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| pupnik | more handhelds with hw keyboards now | 03:22 |
| pupnik | i mean qwerty | 03:23 |
| luke-jr | qwerty is a minus | 03:23 |
| SpeedEvil | I wonder about something like the microwriter | 03:23 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroWriter,_AgendA,_and_CyKey.jpg | 03:24 |
| SpeedEvil | I had a microwriter Agenda | 03:24 |
| SpeedEvil | I wonder if it could be adapterd to keys round the edge of the device | 03:24 |
| SpeedEvil | In fact I still have the agenda | 03:24 |
| pupnik | you can type by twisting rotary knobs if you want. i'm not interested in such diversions | 03:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Fair enough. | 03:26 |
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| pupnik | i could imagine a chording device might be useful if it were in your front pocket,with a heads-up display in glasses | 03:28 |
| SpeedEvil | Yeah.For that nerd-masturbating-text-entry-chic | 03:28 |
| pupnik | discrete texting | 03:29 |
| cehteh | haha .. i prefer looking silly when typing text on my n900 than looking like wanking in the train :P | 03:33 |
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| pupnik | discreet | 03:38 |
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| pupnik | wb DocScrutinizer | 07:36 |
| pupnik | did you see the maemo + mypaint speedtest | 07:36 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/18/microsoft_word_supremecourt_i4i/ <-- if you can't win adjust the parameters so that you can... | 08:36 |
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| khertan_ | Morning | 09:25 |
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| pupnik | moo :) | 09:29 |
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| chx | ~moo | 09:31 |
| * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass | 09:31 | |
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| vldcnst | ~cookie | 09:33 |
| infobot | Hey vldcnst, zip 58480 is Sanborn Barnes ND | 09:33 |
| chx | huh? | 09:34 |
| chx | how is that cookie? | 09:34 |
| vldcnst | no idea. | 09:35 |
| vldcnst | ~fsck infobot | 09:35 |
| infobot | e2fsck /dev/infobot : warning! filesystem contains idiots! | 09:35 |
| Khertan | Maemo SDK Install Try Number 12 | 09:42 |
| Khertan | after the qt segfault, the vdso32, the libc which was upgraded by mistake .... i hope it ll be ok this time | 09:43 |
| Khertan | :) | 09:43 |
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| robbiethe1st | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkllP1bvjEY&feature=player_detailpage Multitasking at 1.15ghz. :P | 10:46 |
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| chem|st | moaning | 10:56 |
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| chx | ~moo | 10:59 |
| * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass | 10:59 | |
| chem|st | ~botsnack | 11:00 |
| infobot | aw, gee, chem|st | 11:00 |
| chem|st | ~cough | 11:00 |
| * infobot coughs all over chem|st | 11:00 | |
| Robot101 | yogurt, curd, cream cheese & butter's made from liquid from my udders... | 11:00 |
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| crashanddie | Robot101, I don't want to know about your manboobs, and what oozes out of them, thank you very much | 11:24 |
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| RST38h | crashanddie: Still, I bet you will watch a youtube video, if available... | 11:26 |
| crashanddie | Not really | 11:26 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, http://bottleguy.com much? | 11:26 |
| RST38h | Dunno | 11:26 |
| RST38h | Meanwhile: ESRB To Automate Game Rating | 11:26 |
| RST38h | "To do this the organization has written a program designed to replicate the ingrained cultural norms and predilections of the everyday American consumer, at least when it comes to what is appropriate for children and what isnt." | 11:27 |
| ruskie | hahahaha | 11:28 |
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| * crashanddie just worked through a 12000 line commit | 11:51 | |
| crashanddie | fuck me, now that's what I call integration ;) | 11:52 |
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| Khertan | the reason this time is because i didn't have xterm | 12:07 |
| Khertan | :) | 12:07 |
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| djszapi | "Export contacts step 5/5: Failed" "Unable to save" -> is there any option to copy a file from the filesystem manually by using the terminal for instance instead of this Ui error ? | 12:17 |
| djszapi | I would like to export the contacts from this phone to another N900. | 12:17 |
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| Robot101 | crashanddie: :( it's the next line of the cow song | 12:31 |
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| lcuk | Robot101, I am sure I heard someone singing it loudly whilst drinking ale in Belgium | 12:44 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: copy the db | 12:46 |
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| djszapi | chem|st: more precisely ? | 12:47 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: open xterm | 12:47 |
| chem|st | djszapi: cp .osso-abook/db/addressbook.db $yourlocation | 12:48 |
| djszapi | what db ? | 12:48 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: also pc-suite is able to just copy&paste your entire abook | 12:54 |
| djszapi | http://paste.kde.org/13579/ -> Why do I get this message with a fresh N900 from the shop ? My other N900 works just fine. | 12:56 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: http://wiki.maemo.org/Manual_backup_and_restore | 12:57 |
| djszapi | chem|st: what should I check there ? | 12:58 |
| chem|st | abook backup | 12:58 |
| chem|st | there is a cli for the backup | 12:58 |
| djszapi | why do I need backup for a fresh gadget ? | 12:58 |
| chem|st | should save in vcf or something so you can use it with any other device or software | 12:59 |
| djszapi | I would like to connect to the fresh gadget over ssh. | 12:59 |
| chem|st | you can send the file via BT aswell | 13:00 |
| liar | djszapi: try pinging the computer from the device, and connect to the device at the same time :D ... seems stupid but works for me | 13:00 |
| chem|st | and no route to host means there is no .2.15 responding | 13:00 |
| mece | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8460300/Apple-sues-Samsung-for-slavish-copying-of-iPhone-and-iPad.html | 13:01 |
| djszapi | liar: ping: permission denied. (are you root?) | 13:02 |
| liar | sudo ping ... | 13:02 |
| liar | ^^ | 13:02 |
| djszapi | wow do I need to be sudo to ping. | 13:03 |
| chem|st | is an ssh server running? | 13:03 |
| djszapi | that is odd. | 13:03 |
| djszapi | what is the sudo password, not rootme | 13:03 |
| chem|st | djszapi: user should not be able to do anything, so not even ping | 13:03 |
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| chem|st | just type root | 13:03 |
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| chem|st | and without root password you wont be able to ssh to your device anyway | 13:04 |
| mece | bwuaaahahahahaha FTFA: "Samsung’s tablet, like Apple’s, uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners" | 13:04 |
| chem|st | no root password set means you dont have a ssh server installed as the installscript forces you to set a password | 13:04 |
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| FauxFaux | chem|st: Actually, if you fail to enter a password before the screen locks it screws you. | 13:05 |
| chem|st | FauxFaux: oh nice | 13:05 |
| mece | chem|st, well you can unset the root password later and set a password for user, or create a new user and set a password for that... | 13:05 |
| chem|st | but becoming root on device and passwd it | 13:06 |
| chem|st | mece: we are talking LUser here not ROOT | 13:06 |
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| chem|st | mece: peops who got problems with copying files via ssh I doubt be more than a user | 13:07 |
| mece | well by user I meant the user user. not "a user". | 13:07 |
| djszapi | chem|st: wget does not require user. | 13:07 |
| djszapi | * root | 13:07 |
| chem|st | "for user, or create a new user" I get the difference! | 13:08 |
| djszapi | moreover, "root" does not really work | 13:08 |
| mece | root doesn't work? | 13:08 |
| chem|st | then you did not install rootsh yet | 13:08 |
| djszapi | of course not since I could not connect to the device yet. | 13:08 |
| djszapi | and I do not have wi-fi connection. | 13:09 |
| chem|st | djszapi: starting your browser does not require root either O_o | 13:09 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: what about connecting the two devices directly to each other? | 13:09 |
| djszapi | not an option, please forget that now I have another device | 13:10 |
| djszapi | let us say I have this newly bought N900, how can I make it work for ssh ? | 13:10 |
| djszapi | from the desktop PC. | 13:10 |
| chem|st | install rootsh and after that OpenSSH Client and Server | 13:12 |
| robbiethe1st | ^^ | 13:12 |
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| chem|st | you will be prompted for root password with the second install | 13:13 |
| djszapi | how to install them ? | 13:13 |
| chem|st | application manager? | 13:13 |
| djszapi | without internet ? | 13:13 |
| djszapi | how ? | 13:14 |
| chem|st | how would you get ssh open without it connected to a network? | 13:14 |
| liar | you could connect your device to the internet to get internet | 13:14 |
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| robbiethe1st | download deb files, open in file manager | 13:14 |
| djszapi | liar: to my wired internet ? | 13:14 |
| djszapi | how to do that with no usb networking ? | 13:14 |
| djszapi | (with no ssh?) | 13:15 |
| liar | wifi? | 13:15 |
| chem|st | BT | 13:15 |
| djszapi | I do not have wi-fi as said ? | 13:15 |
| chem|st | bluetooth | 13:15 |
| liar | ah sry then | 13:15 |
| chem|st | usb | 13:15 |
| robbiethe1st | Uh... Just copy the .deb files into your card | 13:15 |
| chem|st | or ^^ | 13:15 |
| robbiethe1st | then open in the filemanager. it'll install with the app manager | 13:15 |
| djszapi | well what I was about is a mass storage stuff | 13:16 |
| chem|st | yes | 13:16 |
| chem|st | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/r/rootsh/rootsh_1.5_armel.deb | 13:16 |
| chem|st | thats the rootsh | 13:17 |
| chem|st | copy it by using usb-msd | 13:17 |
| chem|st | then copy the .osso-abook/db/addressbook.db to it as well (you dont need to install rootsh if it is only about that file | 13:19 |
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| djszapi | chem|st: same ssh error after installing the rootsh | 13:21 |
| chem|st | I would copy the full folders .osso-abook and .osso-abook-backup to the massstorage and then open a terminal (xterm) and mv them in place (msd is MyDocs and SD-Card but you want it to be in /home/user/ | 13:21 |
| chem|st | djszapi: if you got no usbnetwork then you got no internet and without ssh-server installed it makes no sense at all | 13:21 |
| djszapi | yeah, I need the openssh-server... | 13:22 |
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| djszapi | root/rootme does not still work after installing rootsh tho. | 13:22 |
| frals | sudo gainroot; passwd? | 13:23 |
| chem|st | frals: for what he wants he doesn't need anything of that | 13:23 |
| djszapi | exactly. | 13:23 |
| djszapi | I need an openssh-server | 13:24 |
| djszapi | and all it is dependencies manually. | 13:24 |
| chem|st | djszapi: if you got no usb-netowrk up you don't need it | 13:24 |
| djszapi | wonder what you mean. | 13:24 |
| chem|st | if you got usb-network up just route it to the internet and install with app-manager... | 13:24 |
| frals | chem|st: wth is he trying to do? | 13:24 |
| chem|st | frals: copying his abook db... | 13:25 |
| djszapi | not really | 13:25 |
| djszapi | that is just one thing of the millions. | 13:25 |
| djszapi | which requires usb networking... | 13:25 |
| chem|st | djszapi: setup usb-netowrking | 13:25 |
| chem|st | first! | 13:25 |
| djszapi | how without openssh-server ? | 13:25 |
| chem|st | then give that brick internet! | 13:25 |
| djszapi | and all its dependencies manually ? | 13:25 |
| chem|st | djszapi: you dont need ssh to enable usb-networking... | 13:26 |
| SpeedEvil | djszapi: dropbear | 13:26 |
| chem|st | people STOP it | 13:26 |
| chem|st | he got root, now he needs usb-networking... | 13:26 |
| chem|st | djszapi: btw what are the "millions" of things you wanna do? | 13:30 |
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| djszapi | no idea how to set the usb network up...the other gadget works out-of-the-box... | 13:31 |
| djszapi | there should not be any problem on the host PC side and I can ping the host PC from the phone. | 13:31 |
| chem|st | you sure you got the IP right? | 13:31 |
| djszapi | absolutely. | 13:32 |
| chem|st | setup a gateway on your host so your n900 gets internets | 13:32 |
| djszapi | it is not about internet... | 13:32 |
| djszapi | I would like to use ssh, scp for now, if that works, usb networking is an easy thing. | 13:32 |
| chem|st | djszapi: but having internet makes the rest easier | 13:32 |
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| djszapi | and the internet usage. Again then, what does not work from the beginning is the ssh connection. | 13:33 |
| djszapi | that is why I said the openssh server stuff ... | 13:33 |
| chem|st | djszapi: as long as you are not listening I wont help you anymore | 13:33 |
| chem|st | it saves you at least 30min if you setup the gateway | 13:34 |
| frals | this conversation is confusing :D | 13:34 |
| chem|st | frals: I feel like talking to a parking-clock | 13:34 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: install any ssh server of your choice by hand via masstorage if you like to do so... but without your routing setup properly you only need an ssh client | 13:36 |
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| MohammadAG | /home/mohammad/QtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/toolchains/arm-2007q3-51sb6-gdb71-arm-none-linux-gnueabi_linux_x86_64/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/4.2.1/../../../../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtFeedback | 13:40 |
| MohammadAG | any suggestions? | 13:40 |
| MohammadAG | I have the .so where it should be | 13:40 |
| ruskie | it's in /lib or /usr/lib ? | 13:40 |
| frals | it has the wrong name? | 13:40 |
| MohammadAG | yes and no | 13:40 |
| ruskie | might need to pass it -L/path/to/where/libQtFeedback.so | 13:40 |
| ruskie | erm... sans the libQtFeedback.so | 13:41 |
| frals | MohammadAG: ls -l /usr/lib/libQtFeedback*? | 13:41 |
| djszapi | chem|st: no idea what you are talking about, sorry. | 13:42 |
| MohammadAG | meh, nevermind, just made 5 copies and overwrote the broken symlinks | 13:42 |
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| djszapi | openssh-common/client/server are installed, still no ssh access. | 13:45 |
| frals | and how are you trying to connect to it? | 13:45 |
| frals | since you dont have usbnetworking or internet access? | 13:45 |
| djszapi | over ssh ? | 13:45 |
| djszapi | as just in case the other gadget ? | 13:45 |
| frals | what other gadget? | 13:46 |
| frals | one with usbnetworking? | 13:46 |
| djszapi | nvm | 13:46 |
| djszapi | not sure how usb networking or internet access is ssh access related... | 13:47 |
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| frals | well you kinda need some networking if you wnat to reach the device normally | 13:47 |
| frals | not sure how you would access the device without a network of some sorts | 13:47 |
| djszapi | not internet, nor usb networking. | 13:47 |
| djszapi | I mean not usb networking for internet | 13:48 |
| djszapi | just a simple one. | 13:48 |
| djszapi | not sure how to access the device with no internet ? | 13:48 |
| djszapi | well kinda no need for that if you wanna use only ssh | 13:48 |
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| djszapi | I think I run out of the ideas for ssh usage. I need to ask for help on the forum. | 13:51 |
| SpeedEvil | 'access the device withno internat' ? | 13:53 |
| SpeedEvil | ssh is not a means of connectivity | 13:53 |
| SpeedEvil | you cannot connect over ssh. SSH is a protocol that runs over a network. | 13:53 |
| djszapi | ssh access, yup. | 13:53 |
| djszapi | but no internet. | 13:53 |
| SpeedEvil | If you have no network, you cannot use SSH | 13:53 |
| djszapi | that is what I said ? | 13:53 |
| SpeedEvil | You need to bring the network up. Then work out what to do with ssh. | 13:54 |
| djszapi | that is what I have not the lightest about after everything seems to be okay. | 13:54 |
| djszapi | * slightest | 13:54 |
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| djszapi | I can even ping the host PC, but I cannot login over ssh. | 13:55 |
| SpeedEvil | what does it say when you ssh to the phone | 13:56 |
| djszapi | still the same | 13:56 |
| djszapi | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host | 13:56 |
| BCMM | internet != network connection | 13:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Ok - now ping the phone from the host | 13:57 |
| SpeedEvil | You seem to have messed up routing somehow | 13:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you sure you're pinging the host from the phone, not pinging the phone from the phone | 13:58 |
| djszapi | pretty sure | 13:58 |
| djszapi | seems it works after a gadget reboot | 13:59 |
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| djszapi | something requires a device reboot then. | 14:00 |
| djszapi | some part of this procedure. | 14:00 |
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| MohammadAG | did you follow the wiki? | 14:01 |
| MohammadAG | ~usbnetworking | 14:01 |
| MohammadAG | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking | 14:02 |
| djszapi | yes ofc | 14:02 |
| MohammadAG | ~usbnetworking is http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking | 14:02 |
| infobot | MohammadAG: okay | 14:02 |
| djszapi | scp addressbook.db root@192.168.2.15:/home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db -> pretty much did not work | 14:04 |
| djszapi | I do not see the contacts in my contact list of the gadget after all. | 14:05 |
| MohammadAG | but did it copy? | 14:06 |
| djszapi | sure | 14:06 |
| MohammadAG | killall osso-addressbook | 14:07 |
| djszapi | device reboot | 14:08 |
| djszapi | windows way ;) | 14:08 |
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| MohammadAG | must be R&D mode that doesn't make it reboot here | 14:09 |
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| djszapi | no contact after reboot either. | 14:10 |
| djszapi | no clue..... | 14:10 |
| djszapi | also, it seems it does not join automatically to the usb0 with ifup by default. | 14:11 |
| djszapi | mmh again ssh issue... | 14:12 |
| djszapi | I am not lucky today with it :) | 14:12 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: does the other way round work? | 14:17 |
| chem|st | djszapi: are you abel to ssh to your desktop from n900? | 14:18 |
| chem|st | as you said you can ping your desktop from n900 | 14:18 |
| djszapi | well the biggest problem is that now, your address book copy idea did not really work out | 14:18 |
| djszapi | I wonder why it is not enough as do I about the not successful exporting. | 14:19 |
| chem|st | so copying the two folders to your $n900-home did not work? even after a reboot? | 14:19 |
| djszapi | you mentioned _one_ file. | 14:19 |
| chem|st | I said I would copy two folders | 14:19 |
| chem|st | the db is only one file | 14:20 |
| chem|st | I thought you wnat to extract them | 14:20 |
| djszapi | well that is odd I cannot export it | 14:20 |
| djszapi | extract ? | 14:20 |
| djszapi | your mean care to ellaborate ? | 14:21 |
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| chem|st | convert the .db to some .vcf | 14:21 |
| djszapi | not sure what you mean | 14:21 |
| djszapi | and why that would be better than a file by file copy. | 14:22 |
| djszapi | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host | 14:22 |
| djszapi | lost connection | 14:22 |
| chem|st | the _one_ file I refered to is a .db and exported contacts are saved as .vcf the process I would call extracting | 14:22 |
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| djszapi | I need to set the usb0 interface up after each reboot | 14:22 |
| djszapi | I wonder why. | 14:22 |
| chem|st | djszapi: you usbnetworking does not work... yet | 14:22 |
| djszapi | odd | 14:22 |
| djszapi | I have no clue why | 14:23 |
| djszapi | route is added etc | 14:23 |
| djszapi | auto usb0 in the interfaces etc | 14:23 |
| djszapi | also, two folders copy did not really help | 14:24 |
| djszapi | my addressbook is still empty. | 14:24 |
| djszapi | easier to copy manually each contact seriously. | 14:26 |
| chem|st | what about using the cli as described in the wiki? | 14:26 |
| djszapi | your mean ? | 14:27 |
| chem|st | or use the backup tool (that saves contacts aswell)= | 14:27 |
| chem|st | djszapi: link I posted ^^ | 14:27 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, didn't you have a library that could generate a yellow message? | 14:27 |
| MohammadAG | like the one for email | 14:27 |
| trx | how can i catch app minimize event (Qt), statechange event does nothing :/ | 14:27 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, add ifup usb0 to /usr/sbin/pcsuite-enable.sh | 14:28 |
| MohammadAG | before exit 0 | 14:28 |
| djszapi | already happened. | 14:28 |
| BCMM | trx: what do you mean by minimize? as far as i can see, maemo's WM doesn't really do minimization | 14:29 |
| BCMM | do you mean loss of focus? | 14:29 |
| djszapi | no idea why I cannot export the addressbook... | 14:29 |
| trx | BCMM well, anything that can tell me that my app isnt in focus (so i can stop some timers) | 14:30 |
| BCMM | trx: i think you want to search for loss of focus, not minimising | 14:30 |
| BCMM | minimising is when, on a normal PC, you click the button that sends the window to the taskbar | 14:31 |
| trx | so it doesnt really minimize.. | 14:31 |
| trx | thanks | 14:31 |
| trx | ill look arround | 14:31 |
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| BCMM | trx: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2008-08/thread00486-0.html looks like one solution | 14:32 |
| djszapi | MohammadAG: I would expected that I add those lines I can connect by default after a reboot.. | 14:32 |
| trx | BCMM thank you | 14:32 |
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| djszapi | can I export the address book from the command line ? | 14:33 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, you have to click PC Suite | 14:33 |
| BCMM | trx: also, maybe http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qwidget.html#focus-prop | 14:33 |
| BCMM | (i mean, i don't know what happens if you try that with an actual window) | 14:33 |
| djszapi | MohammadAG: your mean ? | 14:33 |
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| trx | i'll try it out and see :) | 14:34 |
| djszapi | this is funny I cannot export the addressbook and I do not get any proper error message either. | 14:34 |
| chem|st | djszapi: osso-addressbook-backup -e /path/file | 14:34 |
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| MohammadAG | djszapi, you didn't read the wiki I guess | 14:35 |
| chem|st | djszapi: MohammadAG means that you need to tap _PC-Suite_ when then N900 is asking | 14:35 |
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| djszapi | are you seriously think I could use earlier without tapping ? :) | 14:36 |
| djszapi | that is so implicite and does not work without that :) | 14:36 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, I do, yes | 14:36 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, it's in q-extras | 14:36 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, the api would need some refining though, but it should work. | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, already found a forum nokia article :) | 14:37 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, well, my lib makes it easier than that article... | 14:37 |
| Venemo | and it also does more. | 14:37 |
| djszapi | chem|st: osso-addressbook-backup -e /home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db | 14:38 |
| djszapi | open_system_abook: Cannot open book | 14:38 |
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| djszapi | chem|st: it is a PITA. | 14:41 |
| chem|st | ehrm path to backupfile... | 14:41 |
| djszapi | would be much better to fix the export... | 14:41 |
| djszapi | ok, so please be more precise | 14:41 |
| djszapi | what to give it to then ? | 14:41 |
| djszapi | Nokia-N900:~# ls /home/user/.osso-backup/ | 14:42 |
| djszapi | Nokia-N900:~# | 14:42 |
| chem|st | ok doesn't work here either wierd | 14:42 |
| djszapi | please send me an email if you got it work if I can ask, I do not have more time for it now | 14:42 |
| djszapi | or ping on freenode :) | 14:42 |
| djszapi | kinda basic functionality. | 14:42 |
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| chem|st | and osso-backup does not work as well? | 14:45 |
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| chem|st | ~slap chem|st | 14:46 |
| * infobot slaps chem|st, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! | 14:46 | |
| chem|st | djszapi: you are running the osso-adressbook-backup as root or user? | 14:46 |
| djszapi | meanwhile it works for my colleague, just asked... | 14:46 |
| djszapi | yes ofc | 14:47 |
| * Khertan is happy ... finnally successfully install maemo sdk | 14:47 | |
| Khertan | ouch ... what a loose of time | 14:47 |
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| chem|st | as user it just works for me (there is no abook for root ;) | 14:47 |
| djszapi | does not really work here. | 14:47 |
| djszapi | the command runs, but no new contact. | 14:48 |
| djszapi | just an empty one | 14:48 |
| chem|st | then the abook is empty | 14:48 |
| djszapi | obviously not | 14:48 |
| chem|st | look into the .db | 14:48 |
| djszapi | obviously not | 14:48 |
| chem|st | some parts are human readable | 14:48 |
| djszapi | it is really the same... | 14:48 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: new contact? | 14:49 |
| djszapi | nothing, but I am really pissed off by it | 14:49 |
| djszapi | sorry | 14:49 |
| djszapi | thank you for your help anyway | 14:50 |
| djszapi | I stop it now | 14:50 |
| djszapi | :( | 14:50 |
| chem|st | djszapi: $location where the actual abook is run as user: osso-addressbook-backup -e backupcontacts.vcf | 14:50 |
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| chem|st | djszapi: copy backupcontacts.vcf to n900 and use the import from file option from your hildon-abook application | 14:50 |
| chem|st | $location == $device | 14:51 |
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| Khertan | Someone notice some Qt segfault with Qt4.7.2 from CSSU too ? | 15:10 |
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| MohammadAG | achipa, so, I'll ask again, should I jump to QtM 1.1 or just send recompiled packages for libqtm, libqtm-11, and libqtm-12? | 15:17 |
| achipa | MohammadAG: where does the packaging come from ? | 15:17 |
| MohammadAG | achipa, repos, if I don't recompile against 4.7.2 then apps segfault | 15:18 |
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| achipa | which repos ? which one has 1.1 as libqtm ? | 15:18 |
| MohammadAG | so I need to provide new QtM packages in the next update, I'm just not sure whether to push the same versions recompiled or push a new version | 15:18 |
| MohammadAG | umm, none, that's what I'm asking | 15:19 |
| MohammadAG | should I rename libqtm-11 to libqtm and send that in an update, or just push recompiled packages for all 3 versions? | 15:19 |
| MohammadAG | the latter won't break apps for sure | 15:19 |
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| dotblank | hello anyone up? | 15:24 |
| dotblank | I need someone to help me with a favor | 15:24 |
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| achipa | MohammadAG: not sure if renaming would work, some extra tweaking with path would be needed | 15:29 |
| achipa | MohammadAG: as that stuff is not in /usr/lib | 15:29 |
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| achipa | (so stuff compiled against 1.0 would fail in that case if you just upped) | 15:30 |
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| achipa | so I would generally recommend to keep the same versions | 15:31 |
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| MohammadAG | achipa, I know, realized that with Qt 4.7.2 | 15:37 |
| MohammadAG | got it | 15:37 |
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| Khertan | MohammadAG: does there is any urgency to jump to Qt 4.7.2 in cssu ? | 16:12 |
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| Khertan | Does there is still maemo4 user's ? | 16:19 |
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| pupnik | is this what Obama does (blinking with the eyes) when he lies? | 17:42 |
| pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv8xyHhDKkY#t=1m34s | 17:42 |
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| Khertan | Does qt use gles on maemo ? | 18:04 |
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| MohammadAG | Khertan, read the rules file | 18:07 |
| MohammadAG | debian/rules | 18:07 |
| MohammadAG | you'll find the right configuration for it | 18:07 |
| Khertan | yep yep ... | 18:07 |
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| Khertan | i find it ... but i mean did he use it for some sample operation like drawing qwidget | 18:08 |
| Khertan | by default | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | it's used by QGLWidget afaik | 18:09 |
| Khertan | i ask because i didn't reproduce it with target x86 which didn't use gl :) | 18:10 |
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| MohammadAG | didn't reproduce what? | 18:12 |
| Khertan | QTBUGS-18720 | 18:13 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:13 |
| Khertan | yep i m still tracking it | 18:13 |
| Khertan | but installing maemo sdk take so long | 18:13 |
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| ZogG | Khertan иец цйрфе шы еру игп, | 18:21 |
| ZogG | Khertan, what is that bug everyone talking about/ | 18:21 |
| ZogG | hi btw | 18:21 |
| Khertan | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720. | 18:22 |
| Khertan | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720 | 18:22 |
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| MohammadAG | <Khertan> yep i m still tracking it | 18:25 |
| MohammadAG | again, I feel it's qtextcontrol | 18:25 |
| Khertan | i was thinking of qtextcontrol or ... glyph painting :) | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | well, I'd check what the define does if you couldn't reproduce it on x86 | 18:27 |
| MohammadAG | oh and one more thing | 18:27 |
| MohammadAG | x86 uses a different font | 18:27 |
| MohammadAG | (and a different font size) | 18:27 |
| MohammadAG | it uses my Ubuntu fonts here | 18:28 |
| Khertan | yep ... | 18:29 |
| Khertan | i'm compiling the armel one | 18:29 |
| Khertan | can it be used under scratchbox ? | 18:29 |
| Khertan | :%s/scratchbox/xephyr | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 18:30 |
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| Khertan | :( | 18:34 |
| Khertan | ok ... i will retry to reproduce it under x86 | 18:34 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:34 |
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| ZogG | btw is digia owns Qt already? | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia never sold Qt | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | it's Qt licensing | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | of course, the media likes to change titles in ways that result in BS being spread | 18:36 |
| ZogG | i just hoped | 18:36 |
| Khertan | yep ... nokia include so many crappy things in qt for their shitty qml | 18:37 |
| ZogG | Khertan дщд | 18:38 |
| ZogG | lol | 18:38 |
| ZogG | people do like it you know | 18:38 |
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| Khertan | which ? user ? | 18:39 |
| Khertan | they will blame developpers for slow apps after | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, people like eye candy, they don't care if it's QML or not | 18:42 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG, come to my van i'll give you a candy | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | 1) Kill desktop composition | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | 2) Use QPropertyAnimation | 18:43 |
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| MohammadAG | and any Qt app will look good | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, doesn't work on me :P | 18:44 |
| ZogG | tweego looks good without qml if i got it right | 18:44 |
| ZogG | or colombus | 18:44 |
| ZogG | though gpodder by thp with aml looks sweet | 18:44 |
| Khertan | ZogG: every qml app run slowly ... use too much memory ... | 18:45 |
| Khertan | except stupid example of course | 18:46 |
| ZogG | qnlreddit is fine i thik | 18:46 |
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| Khertan | ZogG: don't know. Never try it | 18:47 |
| Khertan | but ouch the screenshot | 18:47 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:47 |
| Khertan | https://sites.google.com/site/qmlreddit/ <<< this is not that ? | 18:47 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:47 |
| ZogG | yeah he is not desinger | 18:47 |
| ZogG | designer | 18:47 |
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| Khertan | ZogG: yep ... this is why qml sucks | 18:49 |
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| Khertan | it s not for designer, not for developpers, not really for webmaster | 18:49 |
| Khertan | this is for noone :) | 18:50 |
| ZogG | you can always make one better | 18:50 |
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| ZogG | though i love your app | 18:50 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG btw did you implent RDS in openplayer? | 18:50 |
| Khertan | of course ... can always make better ... just matter of time :) | 18:51 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, no | 18:51 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG i just wonder what you need to send to dbus | 18:51 |
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| ZogG | and how i do it with see | 18:51 |
| ZogG | c* | 18:51 |
| Khertan | MohammadAG: make -j made a great diff ... from 2h to 20min :) | 18:51 |
| ZogG | i hate C for one reason | 18:51 |
| ZogG | it's hard to goole while it's only one letter | 18:51 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:51 |
| MohammadAG | Khertan, yep :D | 18:52 |
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| ZogG | and mostly i get C# or .net or c++ | 18:52 |
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| * ZogG xmms2> Tao - Ultraflow ["Seven" 2011] | 18:52 | |
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| ZogG | 8bit music FTW | 18:53 |
| Khertan | ZogG: difficult for looking a c developper jobs in our french nationnal jobs agency, when specifying language for a dev ... it s require a minimum of 3 chars :) | 18:53 |
| ZogG | Khertan lol | 18:53 |
| ZogG | but i think C is the best | 18:53 |
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| Khertan | depends on use case | 18:53 |
| ZogG | as you know it well you can manage other langs | 18:53 |
| Khertan | false | 18:53 |
| ZogG | especially C++ and C# | 18:53 |
| Khertan | c++ != c | 18:54 |
| Khertan | one is object not the other | 18:54 |
| Khertan | it s a total different way of coding | 18:54 |
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| ZogG | yes it is | 18:55 |
| ZogG | but if you handle C you can make it with C++ | 18:55 |
| ZogG | in my opinion | 18:55 |
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| ZogG | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/04/motorcycles-made-from-watch-parts.html | 18:56 |
| ZogG | thats cool | 18:56 |
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| MohammadAG | It took me over two weeks to get adjusted to C | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | after learning C++ | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | it's very different | 18:57 |
| ZogG | http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/04/15/new-certification-level-launched-%E2%80%93-nokia-certified-qt-specialist/ | 18:58 |
| Khertan | you know i hate the most with python ... all python jobs are related to website ... so few App developpment jobs in python | 18:59 |
| Khertan | s/you know/you know what i | 18:59 |
| Khertan | and less in python qt :) | 18:59 |
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| pupnik | n900 flies to the floor for the 100th time | 19:06 |
| pupnik | tripping over cable | 19:06 |
| Appiah | gj | 19:10 |
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| Jartza | ouch, my n900 keyboards space button cracked into 2 pieces :( | 19:28 |
| Jartza | both sides work, but pressing from the middle doesn't | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | the space bar is two buttons anyway | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | not one button, that's why the middle doesn't work | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | just get a new keymat, changing it is easy | 19:30 |
| Khertan | MohammadAG: did you know where we can found some cheap hw parts of n900 | 19:32 |
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| Khertan | i broken zoom minus button (always pressed) | 19:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Damnit | 19:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Portal 2 today. | 19:33 |
| * GeneralAntilles dies. | 19:33 | |
| MohammadAG | cheap, nope, but I do know of klc.fi | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, still not out here :/ | 19:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, yes, not living in the US is a terrible thing. :P | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | haha | 19:34 |
| MohammadAG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZMSAzZ76EU <-- epic "ad" for it, sort of | 19:34 |
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| Jartza | MohammadAG: yeah, I just have to find one. Every seller says "out of stock" | 19:38 |
| MohammadAG | Jartza, steam? :P | 19:38 |
| Jartza | ? | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | purchase the downloadable version off Steam | 19:39 |
| Jartza | downloadable keymat? :) | 19:39 |
| Jartza | that's hightech :) | 19:40 |
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| MohammadAG | Jartza, oh, thought you were talking about Portal 2 xD | 19:43 |
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| Jartza | heh :D | 19:43 |
| Jartza | I need a scandinavian keymat | 19:43 |
| Jartza | klc is also out of stock | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | Jartza, I'd google 265854 N900 | 19:45 |
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| Jartza | MohammadAG: I did. Without success. | 19:47 |
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| ZogG_w | !ping | 20:45 |
| ZogG_w | i can't see anyones msgs or it's just that quite here? | 20:45 |
| MohammadAG | your net disconnected | 20:46 |
| ZogG_w | oh i see u | 20:47 |
| ZogG_w | i'm from webchat | 20:47 |
| ZogG_w | as of proxy at work | 20:47 |
| ZogG_w | damn proxy | 20:47 |
| ZogG_w | hate it | 20:47 |
| MohammadAG | I'm talking over local LAN, you should be afraid | 20:48 |
| ZogG_w | lol | 20:49 |
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| ZogG_w | i have gun you know | 20:49 |
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| totalizator | hi, my n800 got into a reboot loop, but only when I choose to boot from SD card, flash boot works fine, any ideas why and how can I fix it? | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_w, which model? | 20:53 |
| ZogG_w | MohammadAG: CZ | 20:54 |
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| MohammadAG | ZogG_w, I have a portable tank, beat that | 21:04 |
| MohammadAG | it fits in a pocket, just add water | 21:05 |
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| mikki-kun | MohammadAG: you have a portable fission battery cell? | 21:21 |
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| chx | mikki-kun: we were reading articles about water fuel cells for years. | 21:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Khertan: mouser might help. Hard to find a exactly matching switch. I recommend Nokia repair | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | Jartza: scandinavian one might be hard to find. Maybe somebody has a spare one, who got bored of the non-US version | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | I got some sources of US and German keymats | 21:32 |
| Jartza | maybe | 21:32 |
| Jartza | I have another n900, but it's with US keymat | 21:32 |
| Jartza | and I need my ä and ö :) | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr ä and ö sound much like german keymat | 21:33 |
| Jartza | germans have messed up y and z | 21:34 |
| Jartza | :) | 21:34 |
| Jartza | I hate qwertz and azerty -keyboars :) | 21:36 |
| Jartza | +d | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4370_Original-Nokia-N900-Keypad-QWERTZ.html is available anyway | 21:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4575_Original-Nokia-N900-Keypad-QWERTY--english-.html is low on stock | 21:37 |
| Jartza | hmmh | 21:37 |
| Jartza | maybe this qwertz is ok, I think the actual keys can be remapped? | 21:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no hw defined way the CPU knows about the printing on the keypad | 21:40 |
| Jartza | yep | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever you define in settings will get used | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | (there's an initial config from CAL partition, that defines the keymapping on first boot) | 21:42 |
| Jartza | gnnh. keymat 19.89 eur, postal 14.90 eur :P | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | this one is extremely nice a part (includes flat plastic connector) | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4366_Original-Nokia-N900-Hinge-Slide.html | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | Jartza: depends on destination of shipment I guess. I don't think I paid that much for shipping | 21:45 |
| Jartza | my destination is finland | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 21:45 |
| Jartza | maybe I'll ask my good friends at nokia first :) | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | good plan | 21:46 |
| Jartza | if they have some broken n900's there :) | 21:46 |
| MohammadAG | <mikki-kun> MohammadAG: you have a portable fission battery cell? | 21:46 |
| MohammadAG | it said just add water :< | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | .oO(??!) | 21:47 |
| MohammadAG | nothing :P | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask in Fucku, they know about adding water | 21:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Jartza: btw I hate qwertz too, at least on N900. For the missing up/down direct keys | 21:50 |
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| Jartza | DocScrutinizer: not much difference to scandinavian qwerty | 21:50 |
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| Jartza | in scandinavian keyboard y and z are in correct place and ü = å | 21:51 |
| Jartza | :) | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, but the reason I got me the US keypad | 21:51 |
| Jartza | w00t | 21:51 |
| Jartza | my space n900 HAS scandinavian keyboard | 21:51 |
| Jartza | I did remember incorrectly | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 21:52 |
| Jartza | s/space/spare/ | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | spare* | 21:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | only Freerunner been in space so far, no N900 afaik | 21:52 |
| Jartza | the "spare" is used for meego-testing :) | 21:52 |
| Jartza | it has broken earpiece and it doesn't detect keyboard slider open/close (thinks it's open all the time) | 21:53 |
| mtnbkr | DocScrutinizer: got my N900 back from repair (again) they definitely broke the microsd card reader the first time out when they were fixing the USB/charger port. Now I have a brand new main board and even spent the extra $25 to get new glass - all works fine now :) | 21:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1430&p=14569#p14569 <-FR in space | 21:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Jartza: I (wildly) guess your earpiece fell off and attached to the reed contact magnetically :-P | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | Khertan: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=P10850SCT-ND no fogging clue if it would match for volume switch | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | mtnbkr: hm, uSD holder sits on daughter board attached to main PCB via that incredible FPC ribbon | 21:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Has anyone had experience of what they do on repairing the USB ? | 21:58 |
| SpeedEvil | If the pads are destroyed, do they attempt repair, or swap mobo? | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | swap I guss | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | guess* | 21:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you could tell by changed MAC of wifi, and changed mobo ser# | 22:01 |
| SpeedEvil | I suppose they could clone the IMEI | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | they could, but won't | 22:01 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 22:01 |
| mtnbkr | DocScrutinizer: yeah, they called me and said the tech could not get it to read anything, and I said, yeah, I know, that is why I sent it back :) But she was apologizing since she said they will have to replace the main board and I would lose ALL of my data, and have a new MAC & seria and EIMI # etc. | 22:02 |
| mtnbkr | which was fine since of course I had a full backup to restore | 22:02 |
| * SpeedEvil wishes he could get broken n900 boards. | 22:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer | you won't | 22:03 |
| SpeedEvil | I know. | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least not from Nokia repair | 22:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | I imagine that they're sent back to nokia for credit, so the leak rate will be very small | 22:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | usually mobo swaps are done in central repair facility I guess. Old defective mobos get destroyed there - at least they should | 22:10 |
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| kerio | i want a n900 with 512mb of ram | 22:18 |
| SpeedEvil | As I understand it, it's possible, though fiddly | 22:19 |
| kerio | would the kernel handle it nicely? | 22:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | You can fit a 512M over the POP | 22:19 |
| SpeedEvil | I imagine so | 22:19 |
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| ShadowJK | fiddly is somewhat of an understatement | 22:23 |
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| SpeedEvil | indeed | 22:23 |
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| RST38h | Steve Jobs invents Maemo task switcher: http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DSC_3157110419134214.jpeg | 22:40 |
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| pupnik | finnish aeronautical engineer designs coolest airplane ever http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-kilo-person-plane.html | 22:45 |
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| mikki-kun | pupnik: wow, awesome! :D | 22:55 |
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| pupnik | mikki-kun: takes some courage to fly | 22:57 |
| mikki-kun | nah, just insanity :D | 22:57 |
| mikki-kun | ^^ | 22:57 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/7-0-tft-lcd-android-2-2-via-8650-cpu-wifi-umpc-netbook-pink-349-79mhz-2gb-3-usb-sd-lan-70759 - slightly more expensive than a BT keyboard. | 23:35 |
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| ThreeM | and slightly more performance ;) | 23:36 |
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| internetishard | are passwords for the accounts like skype stored in cleartext somewhere? If so, then where can I retreive them? | 23:51 |
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