IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2011-04-18

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pupnik"your silence will not protect you" - Audre Lorde00:20
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newbie007will x11vnc allow me to remote desktop into my maemo from another linux box. I want to go from a nook color running honeycomb into a maemo so as to control a n900 from a nook color over wifi?01:05
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pupnik  "Poker Face" played on giant tesla coils01:08
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n900-stuffhi all01:10
n900-stuffcan anyone please look at this
newbie007pupnik: seems like a face to me01:10
n900-stuffi try to run the sdk maemo emulator but i get this output and nothing shows up .. no emulator01:10
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pupniknewbie007: you can't get the exact n900 experience over a network because the n900 uses openglES compositing to display01:11
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pupnikthere is a project to do networked opengl windowmanagement somewhere iirc01:12
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pupnikn900-stuff: checking..01:12
n900-stuffthanks pupnik01:12
newbie007pupnik: huh, thanks. The closest I found was gmote-server01:12
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pupnikn900-stuff: not sure, i'd delete the -kb from (after backing it up) and try that01:15
n900-stuffwhats a -kb01:15
pupnikan old flag to xephyr that's no longer supported01:15
pupnikXephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac &01:16
n900-stuffthis is the ubuntu pc on which i installed the sdk01:16
n900-stuffi run the vm of sdk on windows which works fine .. but thats so slow for me01:17
pupnikuse google with the error message, add "scratchbox"01:17
n900-stuffthings compile and build fine though01:17
n900-stuffyea i have01:17
n900-stuffwill do more01:17
n900-stufffirst there was something like installation of HALD01:17
n900-stuffand i installed it01:17
n900-stuffbut the output remained the same01:17
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n900-stuffit worked!01:19
n900-stuffremoved the -kb01:20
n900-stuffthis should go to the wiki01:20
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n900-stuffok thanks01:21
n900-stuffi'll go sleep01:21
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pupnikeverybody should get a nokia n90001:29
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pupniki just love closeup screenshots, like candy01:35
pupnik   n900 LCD is all 'sparkly'01:36
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MohammadAGthat mafw equalizer project's kinda neat02:15
MohammadAGexcept for the fact that it uses 50% CPU time and stutters like hell02:15
MohammadAG 3086   769 user     S     4764  1.9 50.5 /usr/bin/mafw-dbus-wrapper mafw-gst-eq-renderer02:15
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MohammadAG * but probably cause distortion. */02:27
MohammadAG/* @vol should be between [0 .. 100], higher values (up to 1000) are allowed,02:27
MohammadAG * but probably cause distortion. */02:27
MohammadAGapparently, mafw can take values higher than 100, they're just disabled elsewhere in the code (if volume > 100 then volume = 100)02:28
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mva"stupid-protection"? :)02:31
nox-it may make sense if something was recorded too low...02:33
MohammadAG  * Changed highest resolution for fremantle02:39
MohammadAGlol, explains the 800x480 limit02:39
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MohammadAG  * Disable native flags in playbin2 temporarily since this is causing02:40
MohammadAG    trouble with some videos. Also, allow videos with resolution02:40
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pupniksometimes i...  feel like i... landed on the... wrong planet06:31
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rtylerpupnik: get back in your spaceship then :)06:42
pupniksoon enough06:43
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krayonhmmm... is there a simple way to open a file with it's default app, via mime from bash or python or something?06:49
krayon <-- doesn't work anymore06:49
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pigeonis there a way to restart X on the n900 without rebooting?07:33
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pupnikpigeon: why?07:42
krayonpigeon: Kill X would do it I would think07:43
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* pigeon tries07:44
pigeonnope, that reboots it.07:45
krayonI doubt it07:45
krayontype "uptime" in a terminal07:45
pigeoni'm not in r&d mode btw07:45
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pigeonthat is definitely a reboot07:47
krayonWhat does "uptime" return in a terminal07:47
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pigeonup 0:0207:47
pigeonand the fact that i can see the nokia boot up logo again...07:47
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pigeoni have a feeling with r&d mode it doesn't...07:48
krayonDunno ... I just tested it myself and you're right, it does reboot.  I guess they have init rebooting on X close.07:49
krayonI guess then, you can only restart hildon-desktop etc without causing a reboot but not X :/07:49
krayonOr change the init scripts07:50
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Sazpaimonis there any way to make the alarm app snooze when it times out during an alarm08:16
Sazpaimoninstead of like, shutting off the entire alarm app completely08:16
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krayonSazpaimon: heh, you'd think that'd be the default way of working wouldn't you :/08:23
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Sazpaimonkrayon, yeah really08:58
Sazpaimonespecially when its been on every other nokia phone, not just symbian phones08:58
Sazpaimonmaemo is probably the only platform from nokia that diverges from this08:59
jacekowskii just have couple alarms set up every couple minutes09:04
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pupnikkrayon: before acting like you know what you're talking about, know what you're talking about09:07
jacekowskikrayon: it's not init rebooting09:08
jacekowskikrayon: it's dsme watchdog09:08
krayonjacekowski: Yes of course, not exactly like Linux on a server/desktop.09:09
jacekowskikrayon: dsme is detecting that critical service is not working and tries to recover09:09
jacekowskikrayon: and for X policy is to reboot whole phone09:09
jacekowskithere are other apps that are just restarted and if that fails phone is rebooted09:09
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krayonpupnik: My assumption was it was the same as desktop/server ... a mistake I realise but it's just SOOO awesome I forget it's not just a mini desktop :P09:10
Sazpaimoni like how on TMO there's three threads in a row about maemo on the E709:10
Sazpaimonnevermind the impossibility of that, but the E7 hardwarewise is a significant downgrade of an N90009:11
Sazpaimonisnt the E7 hardware comperable to the N81009:11
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krayonjacekowski: I see.  Is there a way to modify that?  So that X dying would only cause a restart, not full reboot?09:12
jacekowskithere is09:12
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Venemo_N900good morning :)10:06
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pupnikhuhu Venemo_N90010:14
Venemo_N900hey pupnik10:14
pupnikwhere is "using gdb to watch and set variables for dummies"?10:14
Venemo_N900I've no idea10:14
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pupnikwhat's new Venemo_N900 ?10:15
Venemo_N900I just use Qt creator's debug functionality10:15
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Venemo_N900pupnik: why would you want a cli tool when you can have a gui solution?10:16
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kwtmVenemo_N900: Interesting.  When I found discovered the N900 and the community of advanced users, I thought everyone would be using the CLI.  But I see that the culture is more geared toward the GUI.  I happen to prefer the CLI myself.10:47
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Venemo_N900kwtm: there are things that are more efficient on a cli yes10:48
Venemo_N900kwtm: but there are stuff that are best done in a GUI10:48
kwtmTrue.  I do find I like to automate things (e.g. in a script) and those are easier for me on the CLI, so that's my preference.10:48
kwtmI think part of it is that I've had a bad experience with Nokia's GUI.10:49
Venemo_N900and I for one prefer apt for updating/installing10:49
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Venemo_N900but for example, I'd never use wget for browsing web pages10:49
kwtmE.g. using that clumsy PHONE GUI!  ugh!  You pick a contact ("Yeah, *that's* who I want to dial") and it says "You want to dial?  Send SMS?  Call with Skype?  Call with GOogle VOivce" .... uhhh...10:49
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kwtmVenemo_N900: No, I don't use wget either.  I use lynx.  Ok, just kidding.  I do use Micro-B for that.10:50
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kwtmI actually set up vim to dial phone numbers for me.  I've erased almost all of my contacts directory (I've got about a dozen contacts left from the original 2500+) and use vim to dial instead.10:50
Venemo_N900kwtm :)10:50
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Venemo_N900now that's geekness :P10:51
kwtmAlso, when you're on a call, you hear "Press 1 to continue".  Ooops, where is the keypad?  Oh, press the "keypad" button to bring up the keypad screen.  Oh, now I press 1.  Oh, it's ringing now and I want to turn off the speakerphone.  Where's the speakerphone off button?  Oh, I have to close the "keypad" screen.  There it is again, the speakerphone button.!10:52
kwtmVenemo_N900: It was the only way to make the phone usable.  Otherwise every time I tried to make a call, the phone would freeze for 1-2 seconds.  I think it was trying to swap my contact address book in/out.10:52
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kwtmI'm sure if the GUI were as responsive as that of a competitive Apple product, I'd use the GUI instead.  But whoever designed the GUI has, shall we say, room for improvement.10:53
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befordthe phone gui got faster when I disabled the effects with the CSSU repo/tool10:53
Venemo_N900well, lock the orientation of the phone gui and it'll be a lot snappier10:54
kwtmWhich effects?  You mean like the sound effects?  I wonder if it's part of it because pulse_audio keep showing up as taking up a frikk'n *18%* of the CPU even when it's doing nothing but making click sounds when I tap the screen.  Why are screen taps taking up one sixth of my cpu???  uhhh...10:55
Venemo_N900yeah, pulse on Maemo is a bit weird10:55
kwtmVenemo_N900: Yeah, I locked it.  Phone is only in landscape mode now.  I wasn't sure there was a portrait mode lock, but if there was, it's not practical to use.  But then the landscape mode has this *weird* keypad layout that changes depending on whether you are just dialing the phone number or when you're in the middle of a call.10:56
Venemo_N900yeah... lol10:58
Venemo_N900btw, yes, there is a portrait-mode lock too10:59
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Venemo_N900anyone here familiar with xlib programming?11:26
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kwtmVenemo_N900: In portrait mode, the status bar is broken (e.g. tapping the clock fails to bring up the whatever-menu-it's-called).11:32
Venemo_N900kwtm: known bug; fixed in cssu11:32
kwtmThat's good news.  I did get burned the last time I reflashed (recently) so I want to set up everything correctly before I load CSSU.11:33
kwtmOh yeah, I'm working on getting "display" to put up a screenshot of the GPS in action.11:34
kwtmYou see, where I am it's illegal to send text messages while driving.  Although I'm not actually sending text messages (bash programming with vim is hardly text messaging, is it?), if I get pulled over, the police are probably not going to believe me if I say I wasn't text messaging.  So I need a boss screen to show that I was actually just checking the GPS to see where I was going.11:35
kwtmI'll probably put on the screen shot some box warning: "Warning: Police are near" or something.11:36
Venemo_N900well, policemen don't know what bash programming is.11:36
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djszapiWhat is the name of the pdfviewer that I could launch from the command line ?11:43
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pupnikwish i had me a pair of bongos...11:52
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robbiethe1st:D I made over $100 on donations from backupmenu... Over 6 months.11:54
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pupnikhow many maemo programs have you donated-to robbiethe1st ? :)11:56
robbiethe1stNone, sadly. I don't have a job, either...11:56
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robbiethe1stSeriously, when I manage to get a job and am actually making money in the multi-hundred-dollar+/month... I'll donate to a number of people who deserve it11:57
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pupniki donated to two11:57
derfDonate code.11:57
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liarhas anyone of you seen Damion2 recently?13:30
lolloomovie or game?13:30
pupnikpr cjatter13:31
liarthe qemu guy13:32
lollooam not saying ur lying am just calling ur name.13:34
liarthat wasn't a reaction to your message ;-) i just wanted to know if someone remembers him^^ lolloo, so why are you calling my name :-P?13:36
lolloosorry just having fun13:37
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DocScrutinizer2~seen damion213:38
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liarDocScrutinizer: that means?13:42
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pupnikCancer: "We're the rebel cells!  We want mo', mo mo!"13:43
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Termanagood morning13:54
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liaror any idea how and if he finally got an x86 chroot running? i've already compiled qemu so it works with my phone. but i have issues with /bin/sh because it cant fork and chroot does not find the x86 /bin/sh altough i am pretty sure its in the right location14:01
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pupnikinteresting sentence fragments14:04
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liarpupnik: thanks14:05
pupnikoh i missed part of your preceding text, sorry liar14:06
DocScrutinizer51that means there's something really messed up with infobot and freenode14:07
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DocScrutinizer~seen damion214:15
aptdamion2 <> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 432d 12h 58m 5s ago, saying: 'chun1: I don't know of an app but I think it's technically possible to write that'.14:15
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aptI'm on 13 channels: #maemo/390, #wowace/3, #openmoko-cdevel/3, #openmoko/3, #oe/2, #wowuidev/2, #sc2mapster/2, #linuxpakistan/1, #debian-bots/1, #openezx/1, #debian-france/1, #openjtag/114:15
apti've cached 410 users, 405 unique users, distributed over 13 channels.14:15
apt- Uptime for infobot -14:16
aptNow: 1d 4h 42m 6s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux14:16
apt1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201014:16
apt2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200914:16
apt3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200914:16
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OkropNickDoes anybody used it?
ruskieorospakr, try searching through tmo... plenty of posts about it14:22
ShadowJKit's nicer to type on thicker N90014:22
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chem|stMohammadAG: pls come again, can't scroll back that far... (no logs...)14:35
chem|sthey DocScrutinizer14:35
DocScrutinizerhey chem|st14:36
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DocScrutinizerchem|st: how to nuke that friggin "bada rocks" tag on all tmo threads that don't mention bada at all?14:38
chem|sterm no nuke but from DB side... afair14:39
TermanaWhy would you want to do that? Bada rocks! I put that there14:39
chem|stI will have a look14:39
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chem|st~punch Termana14:39
* apt lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Termana right on the nose14:39
aptaw, gee, DocScrutinizer14:41
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DocScrutinizerchem|st: not that it matters that much - for me the tags could vanish in oblivion, uuterly useless feature14:42
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chem|st(442296 downloads)14:44
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SpeedEvilI question some of the download stats.14:47
SpeedEvilThey seemed rather broken.14:47
chem|stand how come the KFZcheck-extras is coming that way in extras, missleading things...14:47
DocScrutinizerI'm worried about infobot14:52
robbiethe1stHm, would it be wrong to put a "wget" into my program's pre-install shell commands?14:53
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robbiethe1stFor, you know, accurately counting installs?14:54
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Corsacrobbiethe1st: looks like a huge privacy issue to me15:01
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DocScrutinizerCorsac: nevertheless that's what virtually every webpage does with those 1pix tag "images"15:04
robbiethe1stWhich gets your IP and any cookies for that site15:05
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CorsacDocScrutinizer: a webpage you're visiting and an application you're installing aren't the same thing for me15:06
DocScrutinizerrobbiethe1st: I'd open a decent webpage in browser15:06
robbiethe1stAlright, that sounds like a good idea - And, it'd mean I could show the changelog!15:06
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robbiethe1stWhat's the command for opening a microB window?15:06
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DocScrutinizercheck dbus cmds (wiki phonecontrol)15:07
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robbiethe1stPerhaps we should call this the Google approach: Instead of doing something shady and being labled 'evil', roll it into a 'feature'!15:07
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ruskieno into a BETA!15:08
DocScrutinizerwell, there's nothing wrong with that - except best-practice violations for installation15:09
DocScrutinizerbut there are packages that are worse (*#-ena for example ;-P)15:10
robbiethe1stHm, do you know if there's a way to tell if the program's being installed via a graphical utility vs a command line one? Perhaps some X-server variable set?15:10
DocScrutinizernot afaik15:10
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DocScrutinizeri2c-tools really bad15:10
ruskietechnically you should see DISPLAY in env15:11
ruskieatleast if from a terminal15:11
ruskiewouldn't know if a graphical utility would provide the same info15:11
DocScrutinizeropens a requester *on phone X* you need to accept. Takes a while to notice why your apt-get via wlan-ssh stalls15:11
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ruskiessh doesn't have DISPLAY set15:12
ruskieeven if X is running on whatever15:12
robbiethe1stYea... In my case, then, I'll just set the webpage to launch and ignore it. Install will continue, and worst case there'll be an extra window around15:12
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DocScrutinizernot really clean but bearable15:13
BCMMam i right in saying that all of: the reboot command, certain packages in HAM, and repeatedly killing hildon-desktop can cause reboot but not shutdowns?15:13
DocScrutinizersigh! [2011-04-18 14:13:29] [Notify] infobot ist offline (
chem|stBCMM: aslong as your battery is alive...15:15
chem|stBCMM: well, packages could do a shutdown15:17
chem|stbut for what reason?15:17
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chem|stthe watchdog does an emergency reboot and increases a failsafe counter, reboot does a reboot and packages do whatever they want...15:18
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GAN900Tracking down noise on the power lines is an unfortunate sort of task.16:52
ZogGDocScrutinizer, hey buddy16:52
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plr_hey how to setup maemo runtime for qemu?16:59
plr_I don't have the runtime installed and not sure how to get it17:00
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ZogGDocScrutinizer you are definitely script17:09
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ZogGjacekowski, ping17:11
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liarhm i've got fork() working. but chroot still refuses to work...17:56
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pupnikliar: you're building qemu for n900?18:05
liarpupnik: yes because the one in the repos does not work for me and i couldn't find the patches which are used by that version18:07
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liari think qemu isn't the fault anymore18:08
pupnikperhaps you need a more complete bash and not just busybox?18:08
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liarmaybe,... but i suspect the problem sits elsewhere18:09
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pupnikbrain isn't telling me anything18:10
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eichiis there allready a way to sync default calendar from n900 with a linux station without using a external website service?18:12
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MohammadAGkhertan, somehow, I think this is where it all went wrong
MohammadAGI've been tracing the aboutQt() dialog back to where it sets text18:20
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ZogGkhertan, i can't test khweeteur anymore =(18:27
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chem|stwho was the guy here hacking the columbus application?18:47
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ZogGchem|st what do you mean hack?18:51
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chem|stmaintainer/builder/coder/hacker/brain behind columbus18:56
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ZogGchem|st oh, who is releasing it? you can check it om TMO - the one who announeced it i think it a developer18:56
chem|stZogG: in here... alterego I think was it18:57
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ZogGchem|st maybe18:57
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ZogGit was tswindell on TMO18:58
zakkmmwhat are your takes on overclocking?18:59
ZogGchem|st if you want to contact him he has info on TMO
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chem|stzakkmm: takes?19:02
zakkmmthinking of it19:02
zakkmmi only use my phone very small times, never games or anything.. so the clockrate will never be high for long19:02
chem|stnever thought further than "won't do ever"19:03
ZogGwhy would you do overclocking19:03
zakkmmcpu performance19:03
ZogGit's like one of the things you don't need but you want to as it's cool =)19:03
ZogGi liek my perfomance as it is19:03
chem|stZogG: the performance is already at 25ms isn't it?19:03
ZogGboth on desktop and n900 i would never overclock19:03
zakkmmim a little less patient19:04
ZogGzakkmm, than buy dualcore phone19:04
zakkmmi wanted maemo.19:04
chem|stall devices I ever overclocked stalled after short time...19:04
zakkmmif they had a dual core phone i would of19:04
zakkmmi had the 770 originally back in the day .. upgraded to n800 cause it was faster19:04
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chem|stzakkmm: no need to overclock, hildon-home will eat it at 1GHz as it will on 600MHz...19:05
zakkmmthats a good thing19:06
chem|stzakkmm: tweaking the settings and replacing hungry apps with better stuff is more important than clock rate19:06
ZogGjust wait for meego device and hildon port to meego =)19:06
zakkmmi saw that, codora or something19:06
zakkmmi liked Mer back in the day , had an okay hildon-desktop'like19:07
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RST38hMeanwhile: U.S. credit rating outlook lowered by S&P19:15
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pupnik"open file" dialog on n900 is so slow that i misclick my way through the tree19:21
pupnikherky, jerky19:21
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pupnikhurp, durp.  stop. go19:21
pupnikright now it's stuck with a misdrawn directory list19:22
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pupnikall hildon animations actually are stop and go slideshows atm19:23
RST38hwait until you see hoe much memory it allocates (use htop)19:23
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pupniki umm.  just see hildon-desktop entries19:29
MohammadAGthe hildon file dialog sucks19:29
RST38hNo shit Sherlock...19:29
MohammadAGo hai RST38h19:29
pupnikwell they got rid of the 'esc' key19:29
pupnikand the concept of the 'esc'19:29
MohammadAGif only someone made a Qt library to browse for files19:30
pupnikso they needed to reserve 1/5th the screen real estate for the 'get me out of here19:30
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MohammadAGworse is if the dialog isn't parented and it crashes (doesn't close)19:31
MohammadAGyou have to reboot or ssh in and kill it19:31
pupnikwhich i guess isn't totally bad, at least it's somewhat consistent19:31
MohammadAGlatter isn't possible on the go19:31
pupnikwhat process does the dialog run under ?19:31
pupnikhmm i may have debug libc6 loaded19:32
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RST38hThe problem with the file dialog is notthe with UI itself19:43
RST38hIt is with the gtk trying to read the WHOLE directory contents and create a separate widget for each filename19:44
ZogGRST38h явфкыеу =)19:44
RST38hZogG: privet. use something readable though, this ircii does not do unicode19:44
ZogGi just didn't switch to english19:45
RST38hIn fact, I remember seeing it also traversing the first level of subdirectories, to "cache" things for better performance (sic)19:45
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ZogGwritting russian word in english letters while you forgot to switch from russian is kinda sacractic19:45
RST38hgoogle actually understands it now! =)19:46
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ZogGRST38h not always =(19:57
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jacekowskiZogG: pong20:28
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ZogGjacekowski just a minute, on phone20:30
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ZogGjacekowski, here20:47
ZogGi just wanted to talk to as much people as possible before i buy parts for N900 to fix it20:47
ZogGDocScrutinizer, pretty heleped me20:47
ZogGwith what micrUSB to buy and inside battery20:48
ZogGbtw DocScrutinizer, about inside battery. any other batteries that can fit and are good?20:48
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DocScrutinizerdunno, you have to heck for voltage, dimesnion, and technology which I'd recommend to pick capacitive rather than LiIon20:49
DocScrutinizeryou also yould use a simple goldcap20:50
DocScrutinizeras long as it has >2.8V and fits mechanically20:51
ZogGDocScrutinizer, i'm pretty stupid and mostly stupid in HW so if you might help me i would appriteate this20:51
DocScrutinizerask robbiethe1st20:51
ZogGi order one you told me but as i understand they don't provide it in our country =(20:51
DocScrutinizerhe used a goldcap afaik20:52
ZogGDocScrutinizer who is it and he is not here =(20:52
ZogGDocScrutinizer any thread on TMO about it as well i can search for ?20:52
ZogGi would probablly change microusb for now and than in case it works i'll change battery after that20:53
DocScrutinizerwhat is tmo? :-P20:53
ZogGas battery would be nice but it's not main thing20:53
ZogGDocScrutinizer =)20:53
DocScrutinizernever heard of that20:53
ZogGDocScrutinizer it's used here a lot =-)20:54
ZogGand you just trolling me20:54
ZogGas you know everything as you just like google bot20:54
ZogGyou collection all the data over internets20:54
aptmethinks tmo is, or too much off-topic, or not ~t-mo20:54
aptwell, t-mo is T-Mobile20:54
DocScrutinizer~factinfo tmo20:54
apttmo -- created by MohammadAG51 <~lagrange@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> at Wed Sep  8 12:31:38 2010 (222 days); last modified at Sat Oct 23 14:06:02 2010 by DocScrutinizer!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 24 times, last by ZogG, 14s ago.20:54
aptyou are probably not awesome at all20:55
ZogG~factinfo ZogG20:55
aptzogg -- created by DocScrutinizer <~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Mon May 10 13:53:31 2010 (343 days); last modified at Thu Mar  3 19:04:33 2011 by jacekowski!; it has been requested 4 times, last by ZogG, 10s ago.20:55
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ZogGi forgot what was before jacekowski changed it20:56
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khertanMohammadAG: new error :
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MohammadAGkhertan, lemme guess x64?21:23
MohammadAGset vdso32=021:23
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jacekowskiZogG: ?21:30
jacekowskiDocScrutinizer: do you know his problem?21:31
jacekowskiDocScrutinizer: he may have some lifted tracks there21:31
DocScrutinizernot at all, no photos no details21:31
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Venemoif you wanna have a laugh, see
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khertanMohammadAG: indeed amd64 ... i think it set it ... or maybe i read it too fast21:39
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khertanMohammadAG: the question is now what does it does ... (google my friend ...)21:41 certain aspects of my space invaders game in c++ has much improoved the speed!21:42
pupnikhahah Venemo21:42
* RST38h prays to the Tentacled One21:42
pupniki was just thinking of you RST38h21:42
RST38hah, see, the Tentacled One delivers21:43
RST38hNot always what you wish for, but anyway21:43
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ZogGpiggz liked your game btw21:45
piggzZogG: thx!21:45
ZogGno thx to you21:46
piggzZogG: keep your eyes out for an update in the coming days21:46
piggzthere are no slowdowns now21:46
ZogGi broke my n900 =)21:46
ZogGyes indeed21:47
MohammadAGkhertan, disables something I don't care about :P21:48
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khertanerror: "vm.vdso_enabled" is an unknown key ... humhuù22:04
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pupnikcurent mypaint has a ridiculously long startup time22:11
pupnikoh god it's slow22:12
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pupnik5 second delay from drawing a stroke with 100 radius circle22:13
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n900-stuffusing communi for the first time :D22:15
n900-stuffits good!22:15
n900-stuff:o where is the full screen?22:15
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chem|stMohammadAG: "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."22:19
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chem|stMohammadAG: you mean bada rocks?22:20
pupniklol a thread i started under an alt nick in 2009 has 241,000 views22:20
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MohammadAGI'd keep his posts and ban him22:22
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chem|stMohammadAG: kept him and deleted his posts... you have too much food... trollfeeding isn't a good hobby22:25
MohammadAGwhy'd you keep him? :P22:26
jakdarippastartx &22:28
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chem|stMohammadAG: he got a warning, an offending one... "you will get banned in no time"22:30
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pupnik creativetone is an awesome artist..
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pupnikcan't update / wget from scratchbox armel.  nsswitch.conf is patched23:06
pupnikso sick of manually installing libraries23:06
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pupnikand not having ping23:06
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pupnikW: Couldn't stat source package list fremantle/tools/non-free23:16
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pupnikremember when you could actually just use an ip address23:16
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* pupnik remembers23:16
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nox-yeah before virtual hosts...23:19
jhbHi *, a lot of processes appear twice with 'ps faux' Is this normal?23:19
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pupniksame here jhb23:20
pupnikthings with [] are kernel btw23:21
SpeedEviljhb: yes23:21
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SpeedEviljhb: thre are two halvres to manyprocesses23:21
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Sazpaimonhow exactly does one build apache2 on scratchbox23:22
Sazpaimonthe build fails with qemu segfaulting23:22
Sazpaimonis there a better qemu than the one scratchbox provides that I can use23:22
Sazpaimonpreferably one that supports forking?23:22
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jhbSpeedEvil, pupnik: thanks23:25
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pupnikahh /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf isn't chrooted to /etc/resolv.conf when you're in the build target23:25
Sazpaimonalright, i guess I'll just modify the makefile to not run ./apache223:26
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