IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2011-04-17

jacekowskiinternetishard: and if for some reason you would make it run constantly at 600MHz it would die after couple weeks00:00
internetishardDo you phones idle at 20% cpu @ 250mhz?00:00
pupnikhow are you measuring cpu use?00:01
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internetishardconky00:01
jacekowskiinternetishard: yes00:01
internetishardI also always have pidgin running; If I didn't I wouldn't care to use this phone00:02
jacekowskiwhy?00:02
jacekowskibuiltin telepathy is more than adequate00:02
internetishardlet's me stay online with gtalk, msn, aim, etc and manage and communicate in a consolidated fassion00:02
ruskieso same as builtin telepathy00:02
internetishardI also look forward to getting the OTR pluggin for pidgin working again00:02
pupnikinternetishard: you're a more advanced user of computers than I am in many ways00:03
internetishardMe?00:03
jacekowskiinternetishard: and use a lot of electricity00:03
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jacekowskiinternetishard: jabber + telepathy + transport00:03
jacekowskiinternetishard: and i can do 3 days  without charging with good winds00:04
internetishardI don't follow00:04
pupnikyes you are fluent in modern, up to date usage patterns and services00:04
ruskiehahaha00:04
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internetishardwhat are telepathy and transport in maemo?00:04
pupnikif a program is younger than 10 years old it is 'new' to me00:04
ruskietransport is jabber transport00:04
ruskiesomething that runs on the jabber server and provides a gateway between $random protocol and jabber00:05
ruskiei.e. msn<>jabber etc...00:05
ruskietelepathy is the messaging subsystem on the n90000:05
internetishardSo you're saying run a server with msn, aim, etc - and pipe it through jabber to my phone?00:05
ruskiedoes smses, jabber, etc... on the n90000:05
ruskieit's integrated into the conversations app00:06
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jacekowskiinternetishard: yeah00:09
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internetishardhmmm. I would like to have the logs for all of my IM protocols stored in one place. My desktop would have  pidgin, my server somehow would have the IM protocols I need and run it to my phone through jabber (what would this be)... Can you think of a good way to consolidate logs and stuff?00:12
ruskieyou would get all the logs in conversations00:12
ruskienothing would be on the server00:12
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ruskiejabber would be conversations00:13
internetishardruskie, so what would I run on the server for gtalk, aim, msn, and irc?00:13
ruskieyou would use a jabber server... you would not need to actually run anything00:13
ruskiejust connect to a jabber account00:14
ruskieand connect through that to gateways|transports for other protocols00:14
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Wizzupinternetishard: tried bitlbee?00:56
internetishardnot yet00:56
Wizzupuses irc instead of jabber though00:56
internetishardfor all protocols?00:56
Wizzupall00:57
internetishardDefinitely gotta check it then00:57
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Wizzupwell, all that are supported. :)00:57
WizzupI use irssi as irc client to it, irssi logs it all00:57
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internetishardbut for all the IM protocols?00:58
Wizzupyes00:58
internetishardirssi via bitlee for that oo?00:58
Wizzupyes00:58
internetishardDoesn't irssi suck as an IM client?00:58
WizzupI run irssi on server, ssh to it00:58
WizzupDoes it? :p00:59
internetishardchatting with lots of people with pidgin is a lot easier,eh?00:59
internetishardusability on a touch phone?00:59
Wizzuptrue00:59
Wizzupit's keyboard only00:59
Wizzupwell, it's my solution anyway :)00:59
internetishardI wonder if OTR can work that way01:00
Wizzupotr works with bitlbee01:00
internetishardirssi -> ssh -> bitlee -> otr -> IM friends01:00
internetishardI mean, how would it work with the n900/server config01:01
Wizzupssh -> screen -> irssi -> bitlbee -> otr -> im01:01
internetishardoh01:01
internetishardokay01:01
internetishardssh with screen stay connected pretty well with 2g/3g?01:01
Wizzupon n900 just ssh and then open the screen01:01
Wizzupwell, you run irssi on the server01:02
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Wizzupso yeah :p01:02
internetishardInteresting solution01:02
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internetishardI wonder if I should do the same for my laptop and desktop01:02
internetishardk01:02
* ShadowJK does irssi[irssi_proxy]-openvpn-...-openvpn-xchat, seamless irc even when n900 changes from 3g to wifi01:03
internetishardDon't get it ShadowJK, doesn't the ip change from wifi to 3g?01:04
ShadowJKyes01:04
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ShadowJKbut I always connect to 10.2.4.501:05
internetishardOh, you're saying irssi running on the server will manage your disconnection and keep you up to date with its own irc connection01:05
ShadowJKno01:05
internetishardwhat's 10.2.4.5?01:05
ShadowJKvpn :)01:05
ShadowJKopenvpn handles the changing address01:06
internetishardthat is a version number for openvpn?01:09
internetishardman, my geekiness if fading01:09
ShadowJKit's an IP address01:09
ShadowJK10.x.x.x is for private use01:09
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ShadowJKBasically it's a tunnel to my server, 10.2.4.x goes through tunnel. The tunnel end points might change, but the address used inside stay constant01:11
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ShadowJKvirtual private network :)01:12
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internetishardbut the 3g ip is going to be vastly different from anything you can control on your wifi networks, ShadowJK01:21
ShadowJKyes01:21
ShadowJKmy wifi network is 192.16801:21
ShadowJKmy vpn is 10.x.x.x01:21
ShadowJKmy wifi router is 10.x.x.2, my N810 is 10.x.x.3, my N900 is 10.x.x.4, my server is 10.x.x.1. My server is in holland, wifi lan in finland, and N810/N900 can be anywhere since they run their own openvpn, as long as there's internet, openvpn makes sure 10.x.x.1 is my server from whatever device I use01:24
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vi__meegoo delayed01:37
vi__orly?01:37
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DocScrutinizervi__: <DocScrutinizer> http://thunderpowerrc.com/PDF/THPSafetyWarnings.pdf  though for High Power RC model planes, this has quite a good set of numbers and recommendations01:47
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dangergrrlsomeone have sip who would help me try something?01:53
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Termanagood morning03:30
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pupnik_I just love it when everything on-screen is balanced!  http://i.imgur.com/LwB9v.jpg   (pupnik's daimonin client snapshot)05:04
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pupnik_i'm thinkin those spell quickslot icons are a bit too  bright05:20
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Sickkipupnik_ what is that game?05:24
pupnik_daimonin05:24
pupnik_it's a roguelike hacknslash online05:24
pupnik_do you like the look?05:25
Sickkiyup05:25
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pupnik_thanks :)05:26
pupnik_lots of work yet05:27
pupnik_how many hours would you expect it to play before draining battery Sickki05:27
pupnik_no fancy animations05:27
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timeless_xchatany nokians awake?07:43
psycho_oreoswhy07:44
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timeless_xchatnm07:54
timeless_xchatwe're taking off07:54
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yigalpsycho_oreos: what will you do to my blood sugar glucose levels bitch08:23
psycho_oreosyigal, that's yer own fault twat08:24
yigallol08:24
yigaldoes anyone think there's a better map application for maemo than mappero?08:26
yigalowell08:28
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yigalsorry just trying to socialize bsadly08:29
yigalbadly08:29
yigalsorry psycho_oreos my humour is rather rediculous, sorry if you didn't perceive it as such08:30
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Venemogood morning Maemo :)09:43
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doc|homeVenemo: interesting thing is, there's a bit of in-fighting going on from what I read09:51
doc|homeer, wrong chan09:51
doc|homeand nick :(09:51
Venemodoc|home, no problem09:53
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robbiethe1stHooray for busybox's ash not liking -ne, != etc...11:10
ruskiehehe11:10
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robbiethe1st...Apparently, calling 'expr length' on a null sring doesn't work right...11:18
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robbiethe1stHooray! Finally got my password lock for BackupMenu added.11:20
robbiethe1stHooray! Finally got my password lock for BackupMenu added.11:21
ruskieerm?11:21
ruskieerm?11:21
robbiethe1stSorry, messing with my numpad11:21
robbiethe1st(cleaning it; didn't notice the enter key)11:22
ruskiehehe11:22
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MohammadAGchem|st, seems like there's a bot floating around on tmo http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=990349&postcount=9511:59
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_trinecan someone give me a link to where the newer power kernels are ?12:32
SpeedEvilI'm not sure there are any.12:33
SpeedEvilI vaguely recall talk that the guy making them wandered off12:33
_trineyou mean nwer ones or just power kernels12:33
SpeedEvilpower12:33
SpeedEvilAlso - no new ones frorm nokia for obviouxs reasons.12:34
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SpeedEvilYou can't simply recompile a new kerenl for it, as you would have tro portr the unreleased drivers.12:34
SpeedEvilunmainlined drivers12:34
_trinewell you can get power kernel 42 by just installing it using the updater in the n90012:34
_trinebut thats not a nwer one12:34
_trinenewer*12:35
SpeedEvilPorting it is a considerable erffort.12:35
SpeedEvilPlease note - my keyboard has a dodgy R key - it's not that I can't type.12:35
_trinewell you're one up from me I cant type12:36
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MohammadAG!seen achipa12:46
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MohammadAG~seen achipa12:46
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comawhiteblah I don't have phone service anymore, now I can't use GPS on it =[13:22
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DocScrutinizercomawhite: intall location test app13:23
MohammadAGAndroid has Qt Mobility 1.2 apparently...13:26
MohammadAGsensors don't seem to be polling lol13:26
DocScrutinizerwakelocks - or what it's called13:27
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JaffaMorning, all13:43
JaffaAnything new for MWKN? Light on contributions this week, but maybe it's just been quiet...13:45
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Evanescencedoes maemo support awesome dwm ?13:49
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JaffaI dunno if it supports *any* DWM (Doctor Who Magazine?), awesome or not.13:55
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robbiethe1stThrough a debian chroot, probably13:55
comawhiteDocScrutinizer, where is the location test app13:55
comawhiteI cannot find it13:55
petteriEvanescence: here is pic of N810 running aweome, don't know the details: https://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Screenshots#Awesome_N81013:57
DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.org/packages/view/location-test-gui/13:57
Evanescencepetteri: I saw it before, so is there anyone use awesome on maemo ?13:58
DocScrutinizermoo Jaffa14:00
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DocScrutinizer~+chaninfo14:02
aptI'm on 11 channels: #openmoko/107, #openmoko-cdevel/82, #maemo/9, #oe/6, #wowace/4, #wowuidev/4, #sc2mapster/1, #elinux/1, #debian-bots/1, #openezx/114:02
apti've cached 216 users, 164 unique users, distributed over 11 channels.14:02
JaffaDocScrutinizer: moo14:02
MohammadAGJaffa, alpha release of OMP? :P14:02
comawhiteDocScrutinizer, aww nuts, it's not in my repos14:02
DocScrutinizerwow, it managed to recognize 3 new users in #maemo, since 45min14:02
JaffaMohammadAG: That'd count. URL?14:03
MohammadAGQt 4.7.2 as part of the CSSU14:03
MohammadAGhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7215614:03
DocScrutinizercomawhite: there's an install button, no? also no wonder your repos don't have it, it's tools14:03
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JaffaMohammadAG: Did the libqt4-test dependency get worked out, btw?14:04
MohammadAGJaffa, not sure, achipa doesn't seem to be around14:04
DocScrutinizer>>Warning: This package is not using one of the allowed user/* sections! For more information check this list.<<14:04
MohammadAGJaffa, I also need to push new Qt Mobility packages compiled against 4.7.214:05
MohammadAGbut I'm not sure whether or not to upgrade to 1.1 or stick to 1.014:05
JaffaMohammadAG: BTW, entertainment view could do some kind of funky (slide/fade?) transition for album art on song change14:05
DocScrutinizerI seem to have suggested and got rejected withthat idea14:06
MohammadAGJaffa, I suck at QML :P14:06
MohammadAGthough I agree14:06
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MohammadAGBTW Jaffa, since tunewiki killed support sometime ago, I've been looking into lyrics support, http://i51.tinypic.com/2h7p4x3.jpg14:07
MohammadAGsource here https://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/lyrics-test14:08
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DocScrutinizerbtw to whom it may concern, I reconsidered my notion towards bme: (no, it's still crap :-P) I think now, bme *must* become a kernel driver, and only reason for such kinky userland implementation as in maemo is: Nokia couldn't keep kernel drivers closed source14:11
MohammadAGwhy the "must"?14:12
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DocScrutinizerwe're not aiming to implement hurd ;-)14:13
Evanescencecan you recommend some website to hack maemo or N900 ?14:13
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: layering14:14
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MohammadAGAny UI mockups for lyrics view?14:15
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: or, if that's more pleasing you: some info from bme we want to see in /sys/*14:15
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, no, I meant why now?14:15
MohammadAGhasn't it always been crappy? :P14:15
DocScrutinizersure14:15
DocScrutinizerbut there were times I was all against implementing jrbme as kernel driver14:16
MohammadAGah14:16
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DocScrutinizerohmy - cleaning outage14:18
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DocScrutinizercpu is trottling due to overheating as all the dust clogs the fan14:18
Evanescencethe name of Maemo5's Desktop Gui is Hildon ?14:19
DocScrutinizerlast time I killed the fan, when I thought it's a good idea to place the hoover tube on the vent slots of that laptop :-P14:20
DocScrutinizerEvanescence: yes14:20
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EvanescenceDocScrutinizer: can I simulate maemo5 under ubuntu ? for example: like install ISO in VirtualBox to run it ?14:21
JaffaEvanescence: Yes14:22
EvanescenceDocScrutinizer: I find hildon-control-panel in ubuntu,14:22
JaffaEvanescence: Or even just run Scratchbox on Ubuntu14:22
EvanescenceJaffa: can you give a link about this ? I can not find this in google14:23
EvanescenceJaffa: what is function about scratchbox ?14:23
JaffaEvanescence: Google "maemo 5 sdk install ubuntu" and it should give you a link to wiki.maemo.org14:25
EvanescenceJaffa: thanks14:25
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MohammadAGapt, maemosdk14:31
aptextra, extra, read all about it, maemosdk is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation14:31
Evanescenceapt: good link14:33
aptGood link, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!14:33
RST38hMoo all.14:33
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MohammadAGEvanescence, apt is a bot :P14:38
_trinehas anyone got any idea whats happened to my application manager catalogues, they dont show anymore since I did an apt-get update14:39
EvanescenceMohammadAG: really ? good robot14:39
MohammadAGapt, botsnack14:42
aptMohammadAG: aw, gee14:42
Evanescenceapt: botgive14:43
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DocScrutinizer51~+help14:46
aptI learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"14:47
apt37 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, babelfish, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, convert, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat14:47
apt39 topics: google, hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection, rename14:47
apt31 topics: reply, reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf14:47
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trx~say woof14:48
aptwoof14:48
trxgood dog.14:48
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DocScrutinizer51damn, my laptop has breeded a new synthetic fabric. It clogged the heatsink14:53
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Termanabred is the past tense verb of breed15:03
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lolloolol15:07
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fapmanUser01hello15:19
fapmanUser01Are there any Fapman experts in da house?15:19
fapmanUser01has everybody gone fishing or sumthing?15:20
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trxsome have gone crocodile hunting too..15:21
fapmanUser01oh...15:21
fapmanUser01that explains it15:21
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fapmanUser01anywho... hoping someone can help me with my Fapman problem15:22
RST38hdon't lose hope.15:22
fapmanUser01it was working fine until recently, and now whenever I update the catalogs, or go to the program list or select any program, it will tell me "unable to open a network connection"15:23
fapmanUser01even though the network connection is fine15:23
RST38hsome repository is probably notanswering15:24
fapmanUser01and fapman itself also gets info over the network, but still keeps on opening up that error dialog15:24
fapmanUser01I've had dead repos in the past, and those threw a different error15:25
fapmanUser01I've seen this error before, but that was when I was actually not connected to a network15:25
RST38hTry 'apt-get update' and see if you get any errors.15:26
fapmanUser01now its sort of like a car giving you the low fuel light, when you've really got a full tank of gas15:26
fapmanUser01no errors from apt-get update, and the fapman log itself shows no errors or any other odditys at all15:27
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fapmanUser01I've also tried removing fapman and deleting all the settings, but the error is still there upon reinstalling15:28
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DocScrutinizer51fapman has known issues15:30
DocScrutinizer51use HAM15:31
fapmanUser01it was working fine untill about a week ago15:32
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DocScrutinizer51fapman has no secret witchcraft to be faster than HAM, it simply takes shortcuts. Sometimes those bite you15:38
fapmanUser01I've been using it for months now with no issues15:39
fapmanUser01and the issue is not with dpkg or apt, it is with the fapman program itself15:39
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fapmanUser01I've actuall just installed strace using fapman, though i had to dismiss quite a few of those annoying error dialogs along the way15:40
DocScrutinizer51I wonder which court will decide for you taking this into account15:40
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fapmanUser01huh?15:43
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kwtmHi.  Where do I find the file for the icons that appear on my "desktop" (such as shortcuts to applications) that specify which image file to use, what application to run when I tap on that icon, etc.?  I have a shell script to run and would like to have such an icon appear so that I can run the script by tapping on the icon.15:47
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trx/usr/share/applications/hildon/15:49
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MohammadAGwow15:53
MohammadAGQScrollArea doesn't change to kinetic scrolling on symbian15:53
MohammadAGit works fine on maemo, ootb15:54
trxthat sucks15:54
trxi had to "reinvent" kinetic scrolling for some controls15:55
MohammadAGso much for tier 1 platform16:00
trx:)16:01
MohammadAGI can understand why not much attention is given to Qt16:01
MohammadAGthe symbian port sucks16:01
ZogGMohammadAG =(16:03
ZogGDocScrutinizer51, called mouser in israel16:03
ZogGthey don't care to make an order16:03
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ZogGnow i'll go thru log tomorrow and youll help me if i got you wrong with specs you gave me, ok?16:03
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ZogGMohammadAG my phone died16:04
ZogGi got out usb =(16:04
trx:/16:04
MohammadAGdid it break?16:04
MohammadAGif the solders aren't very damaged I'd just try to resolder it on16:05
ZogGgonna order new connector and woul ask someone professional to do it16:06
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DocScrutinizer51oh my, those breadcrumbs in that laptop have to be from longer than last 4 weeks. I know as otherwise I'd be starving to death16:24
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przemoReXhi everybody. I would like to use Formula 1 life timing on my N900, is there any working way to do that?17:17
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pupnik_what on earth is that przemoReX17:22
przemoReXpupink: sorry I mean F1 live timing. go to http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/17:23
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pupnik_przemoReX: open the page in n900 browser17:31
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przemoReXpupnik: on n900 the area where the timing suppose to be is blank17:34
pupnik_is it a flash plugin?17:34
pupnik_perhaps it requires flash 1017:35
MohammadAGMy N900's kinda hot for some reason17:35
przemoReXpupnik_: it's java aplet17:36
pupnik_przemoReX: write once, run anywhere eh...17:36
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przemoReXpupnik_: everywhere runs well except for maemo on n90017:48
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jacekowskiprzemoReX: no mobile phone has support for java17:53
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kwtmHi.  Where do I find the file for the icons that appear on my "desktop" (such as shortcuts to applications) that specify which image file to use, what application to run when I tap on that icon, etc.?  I have a shell script to run and would like to have such an icon appear so that I can run the script by tapping on the icon.17:55
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pupnik_kwtm: .desktop files17:59
pupnik_http://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format17:59
kwtmpupnik_: Thanks!  I knew I found them before, and then I reflashed my N900 and they disappeared.18:03
pupnik_np18:03
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GRHi all19:22
GRDoes somebody know how to get the "Maemo 5 device SSU repository" into the repository list? I want to install http://maemo.org/packages/view/libpcrecpp0/ but the phone can not find it.19:23
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MohammadAGit's enabled by default, check that you didn't disable it19:28
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MohammadAGhttps://qt.gitorious.org/qt-mobility/qt-mobility/trees/bf5ba42378dcf07038bdd99e24be29ec0aec8091/plugins/sensors/maemo6 Interesting APIs, compass, gyroscope, tap sensor etc19:29
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GRI might have deleted it accidentely, and havent figured out yet how to add it again19:29
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GRHavent found any info in the web how to add it again (meaning the server url and so on)19:30
MohammadAGdeb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./19:30
MohammadAGreplace mr0 with whatever region firmware you have19:30
MohammadAGUS = 002, global = mr0, code list here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php19:31
DocScrutinizeranyway the "phone" most likely will fail to install a lib19:31
GRhmm, I had one which said https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps19:32
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GRapt-get install libpcrecpp0 still fails19:32
DocScrutinizerooh apt-get, that's different19:32
GRI packad an app which needs it and it fails because of this missing lib19:32
DocScrutinizerso try apt-cache search19:33
GRreturns an empty string19:33
GRIt is supposed to be in "Fremantle nokia-applications explicit armel" as well as in "Maemo 5 device SSU repository (>= PR1.2)". So why does the package managers not find it?19:34
GRHmm, I added the repo as mentioned by MohammadAG in fatmanap, but its not shown in my apt-get sources list.19:36
GRcat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list19:37
GRdeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free19:37
GRdeb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free19:37
GRdeb http://files.kolab.org/local/maemo/ fremantle experimental extras19:37
GRdeb http://files.kolab.org/local/maemo/ fremantle testing extras19:37
GRdeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free non-free19:37
GRdeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free19:37
GRdeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/ fremantle free non-free19:37
GRdeb ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile chinook release19:37
GRdeb http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/multi/ fremantle release19:37
GRdeb http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo/multi/ chinook release19:37
ruskiestop flooding19:37
MohammadAGpastebin.com!19:37
MohammadAG/apps is Ovi Store, not SSU repo19:38
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MohammadAGread what I said, add that repo19:38
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MohammadAGtime to try MeeGo again19:40
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GRSo I added it to the sources list and did an apt-get update. It ends with this: W: Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/./Packages  Could not resolve host: downloads.maemo.nokia.com (Domain name not found)19:46
MohammadAG<MohammadAG> replace mr0 with whatever region firmware you have19:47
MohammadAG<MohammadAG> US = 002, global = mr0, code list here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php19:47
GRhmm, I am suposed to have the global version. Will test the other ones19:48
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GRhave to go now. Thanks for the tipps19:48
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jacktheripper42hildon-status-menu gets stuck here and I can only see the tip of it when it launches. Did anyone have this before ?20:57
MohammadAGhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ question before the last20:58
jacktheripper42oh thanks.20:59
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DocScrutinizer~+chaninfo21:38
aptI'm on 9 channels: #maemo/3, #wowace/1, #curseforge/1, #oe/1, #openmoko-cdevel/1, #wowuidev/1, #openmoko/1, #sc2mapster/121:38
apti've cached 10 users, 6 unique users, distributed over 9 channels.21:38
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infobotOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer)21:39
DocScrutinizer~+chaninfo21:40
infobotI'm on 9 channels: #maemo/395, #wowace/2, #wowuidev/2, #curseforge/1, #oe/1, #openmoko-cdevel/1, #openmoko/1, #sc2mapster/121:40
infoboti've cached 404 users, 399 unique users, distributed over 9 channels.21:40
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infobotI'm on 9 channels: #maemo/398, #openmoko/3, #wowace/2, #oe/2, #openmoko-cdevel/2, #sc2mapster/2, #curseforge/1, #wowuidev/121:53
infoboti've cached 411 users, 406 unique users, distributed over 9 channels.21:53
DocScrutinizerincredible21:54
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jakdarippawhat happened to linux.org?22:22
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pupnik_not responding jakdarippa22:27
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pupnik_need a daimonin player/tester22:28
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ShadowJKgrr, xterminal is flipping to portrait23:20
* ShadowJK tries to remember how to stop it23:20
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ShadowJKcrap, xchat too :(((23:24
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DocScrutinizerShadowJK: menu - ratation(?)lock23:26
ShadowJKwhat23:26
ShadowJKxchat has no rotation options23:26
MohammadAGctrl+shift+r23:26
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ShadowJKneither does xterminal23:27
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ShadowJKyay23:28
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* ShadowJK wonders how to do client_refresh type reload in browser23:31
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ShadowJKany browser on n900...23:32
ShadowJKon desktop it's shift-reload or ctrl-reload23:32
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pupnik_ShadowJK: ctrl-r?23:35
pupnik_i can't touch my n900 right now, it's charging :P23:35
ShadowJKthat's a normal refresh23:35
ShadowJKwhy does charging prevent you from touching the n900? :)23:36
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pupnik_ShadowJK: cause of wobbly usb23:44
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pupnikactually i sometimes startup synergy just for that situation23:45
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MohammadAG<ShadowJK> xchat has no rotation options23:52
MohammadAGCSSU feature, orientation lock23:52
ShadowJKi dont have cssu23:52
MohammadAGI figured as much23:52
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