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MohammadAGe-yes, you can use ukeyboard00:17
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pupnikhttp://people.su.se/~jj/junk/dragon-vomit.png  goat-time with wind, pole, dragon inter help (sfw)00:20
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dangergrrlmake mty n900 happy00:32
dangergrrlit wants someone to see my ugly face00:32
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pupnikhi00:55
nox-moin pupnik, #00:56
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kwtme-yes: Are you looking for the files where you can change the keyboard mapping?  I can tell you where I found mine, and you can see if you can assume it's the same for your layout.01:08
kwtmIs that what you're looking for?01:09
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e-yeskwtm, actually no. I only need "locale" of hw keyboard01:39
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e-yeslooks like it's here: /var/lib/gconf/apps/osso/inputmethod/%gconf.xml01:41
e-yesentry "slide-layout"01:41
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kookiemonsterhello?03:12
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josh_Hi.  A while ago, geolocation stopped working in the browser (google maps for mobile, for instance), and I haven't managed to figure out why.04:37
josh_How might I track down and fix that?04:38
josh_GPS works fine outside the browser.04:39
josh_but as fa04:40
josh_as far as I can tell the browser doesn't do geolocation.04:40
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josh_any suggestions for where to start looking?04:45
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TiagoTiagoAfter someow the battery ran out even though i had plugged the wallcharger, on the next boot the status bar won't show, the operator name does show though, so does the title bar of some programs,but most programs if i try to launch will freeze the whole device Dx07:00
TiagoTiagoCan someone please help me diagnose what is happened and try to figure out how to make it work again without having to reflash?07:01
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TiagoTiagoOh, and another possible symptom of what is going on, while charging, it will keep the screen showing the throbber (the "knight rider" dots going back and forth) very dimlly, i've never noticed that before, usually it at most would light the backlight with black screen for a moment, or if it did show the throbber it quickly ewwnt away07:03
TiagoTiagoAny ideas?07:05
TiagoTiago:(07:08
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TiagoTiagooh, and the key and screen sounds don't play07:18
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TiagoTiagoSorry, switching clients07:26
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TiagoTiagoStill no one?07:27
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keithzgAbsolutely no idea, sorry.07:57
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TiagoTiago:(08:08
TiagoTiagothanx for at least replying08:08
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TiagoTiagoNot a good time to not be able to count on my N900 :(08:15
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keriono calculator?08:23
kerio*ba dum tsss*08:23
slonopotamuskerio: heh. thought the same08:24
slonopotamusTiagoTiago: you still can do python -c "print 2 + 2"08:24
slonopotamusTiagoTiago: or perl -e "print 2 + 2" :)08:25
TiagoTiagoheh08:25
slonopotamusor even in shell! echo $((2 + 2))08:26
keriowhy perl? :(08:28
TiagoTiagolol08:28
keriopython -c "import decimal; decimal.getcontext().prec = 50000; print decimal.Decimal(2) + decimal.Decimal(2)"08:29
slonopotamuskerio: because it's in default system install, while python isn't :P08:29
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TiagoTiagois there a way i can activate synchronization of time with the cell network?08:33
TiagoTiagooops08:33
TiagoTiagoi mean via console08:33
* slonopotamus haven't seen any cell operator that supported time sync yet08:33
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slonopotamusdunno, some 10kb-long dbus call might do that :)08:35
TiagoTiagomine does, but with the status bar MIA and the Clock program being among the ones that freeze the whole thing if i try to open, i can't activate it via the GUI08:35
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TiagoTiagoWhat is the command to restart the status bar?08:37
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TiagoTiago(i don't mean clear the settings, i mean reset the program/daemon/whatever)08:37
slonopotamuslike, dbus-send com.nokia.osso.closed.time.sync.service com.nokia.proprietary.time.sync.activation.msg_osso org.freedesktop.extensions.osso.YES_PLEASE08:37
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slonopotamusreboot08:39
TiagoTiagoit isn't showing after a reboot08:40
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TiagoTiagoAnything i should look for on syslog?08:42
keriotime sync through mobile network sucks anyway08:43
TiagoTiagobetter than setting the time manually at least08:44
TiagoTiagoIt isn't safe to unmount /home and run fsck on it, is it?08:48
kerionope08:49
keriojust reflash08:50
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TiagoTiagolots of shit to backup, and i can't trust the electrict grid over here (i plan on getting a no-break soon, but it's not gonna be immediate)08:56
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TiagoTiagoah, i keep forgeting it's called a "UPS" in english09:00
TiagoTiagoover here even though the language isn't English we call them "no-breaks", pronouncing the words as in English09:01
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kerioget a laptop09:04
kerio:309:04
TiagoTiagoI was hoping i could fix this before going to bed09:06
kerioinstall openntpd09:07
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TiagoTiagono, i mean the N900 itself, not just the clock09:10
TiagoTiagoI didn't paid much attention to the joined msgs, were you here when i described my main issue?09:13
kerioi was still asleep, probably09:13
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TiagoTiagoAfter the battery somehow ran out even though i had the wall charger plugged, when i booted the device again the status bar won't show, and trying to launch most programs will freeze all the device, also the system sounds don't play09:15
TiagoTiagothe operator name and the titlebar of programs that do launch still show though09:16
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keriocheck if the battery is actually ok, and reflash09:17
TiagoTiagoi mean it will freeze the device whole (though holding the power key does shut it down, and the backlight does time out and get relit if i open the keyboard)09:17
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TiagoTiagoright now reflashing isn't an option09:18
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keriowhy not? the potential for screwing up is like 2µs09:18
TiagoTiagogot lots of shit to backup09:18
TiagoTiagoreally? i thought it would take a couple of minutes09:19
kerioit takes around that, yeah, but the battery will power the device all the time anyway09:19
kerioexcept for that tiny window where something *could* go badly if the power fails09:19
kerio(cit. SpeedEvil)09:20
kerioit's actually about 4ms09:20
kerioso 2000 times more than what i said :309:20
TiagoTiagoi thought it would take more time to transfer the image and stuff09:21
kerioyeah, but if the power fails you won't brick the n90009:22
TiagoTiagoalso, it's gonna be a pain reinstalling everything while i'm only on a thortled down 3g connection (will be getting a WiFi router when i get the UPS)09:22
keriousb networking? :)09:23
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TiagoTiagoHaven't set it up yet, do i need to set anything on the device itself or just setting the PC and sticking the cable and it's good?09:24
kerioset pc and n900 and you have internets09:24
kerioyeah, you just need the standard cable09:25
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TiagoTiagodoes the settings on the N900 can be done easilly just with terminal?09:25
TiagoTiagoI can get the terminal with the keyboard shortcut, but seems just about anything else i try to launch makes the device unresponsive09:26
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TiagoTiagoAny idea how i can diagose and try to fix whatever went screwy after it forced a shutdown due to lack of charge?09:27
TiagoTiagoIs there anything i could look for in syslog?09:28
TiagoTiagoor any other log that is expected to be there reall09:29
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TiagoTiagoreally*09:29
ruskiehttp://www.reghardware.com/2011/04/15/review_sonim_xp3300_force_rugged_mobile_phone/ <-- mmmm nice...09:31
TiagoTiago:(09:33
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Venemogood morning Maemo :)09:35
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TiagoTiagoat least with a BSOD you get a cryptic number you can google to get a bit more info about the problem :/09:36
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TiagoTiago:(09:55
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TiagoTiagoI don't wanna have to give up and go sleep :(10:02
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Termanagood morning10:05
TiagoTiagoi wish10:06
TiagoTiagosomthing went bad after the battery ran out and my N900 is just about unusable :(10:06
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TiagoTiagoIs it normal to not have a /lib/init folder?10:21
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alteregoNope10:22
alteregoI don't have one if that's what you mean.10:22
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TiagoTiagoi found a orphan symlink, /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon is pointing to a nonexistent /lib/init/upstart-job , dunno what it means though10:24
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TiagoTiagoIs there a log somewhere that would mention errors that happened related to the status bar?10:28
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TiagoTiagoOk, is the file /usr/sbin/immvibed present on your N900?10:45
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TiagoTiagocrap, i think i have to go sleep (can't hold my eyes open anymore) without fixing my N900 :(11:01
TiagoTiagogood nite to y'll11:02
TiagoTiagoy'all*11:03
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khertanMorning11:17
alteregog'moaning11:20
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MohammadAGmorning12:07
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RST38hPromising that "we will have an over the air email client to announce very very soon," RIM Co-CEO Jim Balsillie also spoke of the reaction to the PlayBook tablet in the first wave of reviews. Labelling that it wasn't "fair" reviewers suggested they rushed the tablet out too fast, he also failed to convince the watcher why they should buy the PlayBook.12:19
RST38h[minor facepalm]12:19
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VenemoDocScrutinizer, you here?12:37
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DocScrutinizernot really13:21
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* khertan is currently installing scratchbox13:25
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pupnik_hullo13:53
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meceo/ pupnik_13:55
khertanMohammadAG: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/a282eb79745998c38055690577ed829586a00bb1 <<< this one look suspect to me :)13:56
khertanMohammadAG: anyway i'm currently installing scratchbox and will revert commit until it  s works13:56
khertan:)13:56
khertanmece: KhtEditor 1.0.1 available in extras devel with work arround for QTBUG-1872013:57
khertan:)13:57
ThreeMhmm, must MyDocs use Fat32? or can i use ext3 there too?13:59
mecekhertan, great! I updated but haven't tested yet.14:02
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robbiethe1stThreeM: Possible, but it's going to take some work I think14:03
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mecekhertan, I seem to be having the same problem as before...14:06
NIN101how can I add folders to ossofilemanager? Or where does ossofilemanager gets its information from?14:08
khertanmece: activated in prefs ?14:08
khertanMohammadAG: is it the qtexperimental package on cssu or did you made your own ?14:08
meceooh.. lemme check14:09
mecekhertan, ah yes. Works now. Would it be possible to add the preferences button to the menu of opened files too btw?14:10
MohammadAGkhertan, upstream packaged using upstream rules14:10
MohammadAGI just moved it into /usr and added the optification steps14:11
khertanit was a question from harryf about qtbug-18720 on #qt-maemo14:13
* khertan is still downloading scratchbox14:13
pupnik_o/14:14
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NIN101solved, gnomevfs.14:21
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edheldilHi all, is there a theme gallery for n900? Randomly trying theme packages is extremely annoying, especially since most of the themes seem to be a variation on black buttons on black background14:25
ruskieyou mean like an app?14:25
ruskiethe most iirc is some website with themes14:25
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edheldilruskie:  I meant a web page containing the themes in standard repos14:31
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khertanAnd scratchbox install failed ... pfff15:09
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ZogGkhertan, hey sweetie15:16
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khertanhey ZogG15:17
ZogGkhertan, i think you broke something in new experimental version15:17
khertanprobably :)15:17
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ZogGanswers don't work for old tweets15:17
ZogGi mean i left it open for several hours - went down to check tweets - answered - nothing15:17
ZogGand btw no tweet sent popup anymore =((((15:18
khertancould you pastebin content of /home/user/.khweeteur.log15:18
khertanZogG: yep the popup was removed ... but could be readded :)15:18
khertanwith a little option15:18
ZogGkhertan sure15:19
ZogGwait15:19
ZogGbtw is there anything simuliar to wgetpaste on maemo?15:20
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ZogGkhertan, it's reaaaly long file =)15:21
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khertanyes15:23
khertanit s a debug release :)15:23
khertanin fact this is worst than that ... it s an experimental release :)15:23
ZogGkhertan, i'm not gentoo ~amd64, it's okay15:24
ZogGand i don't care if it helps you anyway =)15:24
khertanthx15:24
khertan:)15:24
khertani use all day the devel version15:25
khertansometime i got some surprize15:25
khertanbut else works well :)15:25
ZogGi didn't see my twwets coming as i said and than i just wrote new tweet and asnwered and it worked15:25
ZogGkhertan, btw if i updgrade and daemon is running and i open new version it restarts daemon?15:26
khertannope15:26
khertan:)15:26
khertanthe post rm package should restart daemon15:26
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ZogGok15:27
khertanbut for any reason if the communication between the daemon and the ui is broken we lost the message15:27
khertanthis is why i ve rewrite this part for 0.5.515:28
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ZogGkhertan, i'll upload to dropbox =)15:29
khertan:)15:29
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khertanZogG: normally version 0.5.5 should be available shortly :)15:31
ZogGkhertan, pm'ed15:32
ZogG1.7 mb15:32
ZogG=)15:32
khertanouh ... indeed nice log15:32
khertan:)15:32
ZogGi just flashed friends mytouch4g with custom ROM and jailbreaked iphone4 of other friend, maemo is the best!!!15:33
khertan:)15:33
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ZogGkhertan if you whenever need log or something, or want to sleep with my biatches or ride my pimp cars, just talk to me =)15:33
khertan:)15:34
khertanok i see what happen in the log15:34
khertanthere is a bug somewhere15:34
khertan:)15:34
khertan'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 17-21: ordinal not in range(128)15:34
khertanhum hum ... should be unicode everywhere15:34
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khertanbut currently i ll go to made some repairs on my car ...15:34
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khertanneed to change some brakes part.15:35
khertans15:35
ZogGkhertan ok man. i tweet in russian and can check hebrew as well15:35
khertan:) my unicode test is a test repeated 16 time in russian :15:36
khertan:)15:36
khertanтест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест  тест15:36
khertan:)15:37
ZogGkhertan btw i know how to deal with private feeds retweet15:38
ZogGand popups of sent is maybe useless but popups of errors are still should be able15:38
khertanyep15:38
khertanbut there should not be error :)15:38
ZogGthere are always error15:39
khertanerrors aren't an option15:39
ZogGtimeouts for example15:39
khertannope15:39
ZogGand it can be not khweeteur fault even15:39
khertanin case of timeout tweet is resend later15:39
ZogGi know you have save and send later15:39
khertan:)15:39
khertanand if it s twitter fault15:39
khertan... khweeteur spam it :)15:39
ZogGbut it should be mentioned as i do hope to see my tweet and i panic if i wouldn't - so at least i know =)15:40
khertanyep ... error display should be here :)15:40
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ZogGdamn. my phone battery, or bme or usb connection is broken15:51
ZogGit's not charging like it should15:51
ZogGit stopps or sometimes doesn't start at all =(15:51
ZogGit ameks me sad15:51
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TiagoTiagohi16:27
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TiagoTiagoyesterday after a forced shutdown due to low battery, when i boooted it up again my N900 is all messed up; the status bar won't show, no system sounds, and trying to launch most programs cause the device to become unresponsive16:29
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TiagoTiagoi wanna leave reflashing as the very last resort16:29
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TiagoTiagohttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <- thread 'bout my issue16:31
TiagoTiagowould there be a way to copy just the files that are missing without overwriting anything that is already there?16:32
lolloomay god help u16:32
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TiagoTiago:(16:37
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TiagoTiagois it really that hopeless? :/16:47
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Viliny_on_N900anyone know what network the debian channel is on?16:48
AzogViliny_on_N900: #debian is on oftc16:49
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Viliny_on_N900oftc?16:50
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TiagoTiagocrap, it rebooted while running photorec :/17:13
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TiagoTiagoi got a modified partition table that gives /home more space, if i just reflash the rootfs with the original image will that be an issue?18:01
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TiagoTiagoi got a modified partition table that gives /home more space, if i just reflash the rootfs with the original image will that be an issue?18:19
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jacekowskiTiagoTiago: you can just modify emmc18:30
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: for that18:30
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: modify emmc image*18:30
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jacekowskiTiagoTiago: and no it's not ok18:30
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: there is some stuff on emmc image that has to be there18:30
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: it's simpler to modify emmc image18:30
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: just get any hex editor18:31
jacekowskiTiagoTiago: search for 2048 and change it to whatever you want18:31
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TiagoTiagoi forgot the exact value i used18:35
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TiagoTiagoi don't wanna loose my data18:37
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jacekowskimake a backup18:38
TiagoTiagokinda hard to do with the state the device currently is...18:39
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TiagoTiagohttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7217018:40
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TiagoTiagosi eveb reflashing just the kernel will overwrite the parition  table?18:52
jacekowskino18:53
TiagoTiagoso even*18:53
jacekowskiso you're just flashing kernel?18:54
jacekowskinot rootfs?18:54
TiagoTiagoi'm considering that possibility18:54
TiagoTiagowhat gets overwritten besides the pwoer kernel, fcam driver and the wifi injection stuff?18:55
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jacekowskiif you reflash full fiasco image only onenand get's overwritten18:58
TiagoTiagojacekowski: ?18:58
jacekowskiehh18:59
jacekowskin900 has 2 user accessible nvram storage areas18:59
jacekowskiOneNAND and eMMC18:59
jacekowskirootfs and kernel and other stuff is on OneNAND19:00
jacekowski /home /opt and stuff is on eMMC19:00
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jacekowskirootfs is partitioned once at factory and never again19:00
TiagoTiagoI see19:00
jacekowskieMMC is flashed fully by flasher19:00
TiagoTiagoWhen you flash just just the kernel, what stays intact in the rootfs?19:01
jacekowskibut question is what are you trying to do and what have you done so far19:01
jacekowskiif you repartitioned eMMC and wiped content of it at the same time19:01
jacekowskiyou have to flash rootfs19:01
jacekowskiand it may work19:01
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jacekowskibut normally there is some stuff on eMMC that's not on rootfs19:02
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jacekowskiso the best way to resize partitions on emmc is to modify emmc image19:02
jacekowskiand do full flash of emmc + fiasco19:02
TiagoTiagohttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <-thread about the issue19:02
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jacekowskimake a backup and reflash19:04
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TiagoTiagolots of data to backup, lots of programs to reinstall, and the backup program itself seems to be not be working well right now....19:06
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jacekowskiwell, you're supposed to make backups before shit happens19:13
jacekowskinot after19:13
jacekowskithat's the whole idea of it19:14
TiagoTiagoheh19:14
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TiagoTiagoI wonder why humans in general are so relucatant to learn that lesson....19:18
jacekowskii have backups19:18
jacekowskiand backups of backups19:18
jacekowskithat's for normal files19:19
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jacekowskivery important files are stored in 5 places19:19
TiagoTiagopeople like you are a minuority by far19:19
jacekowskii used to do backups only of irrecoverable and important stuff19:20
jacekowskibut after data loss of recoverable stuff i realised that it's way simpler and faster to recover from backup than have to redo it by hand19:21
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jacekowskilike i had like 20 of test virtual machines19:21
jacekowskiwith different software installed19:21
jacekowskii had all cds to reinstall it but it took me whole day to do it19:21
jacekowskifrom backup it would be just couple clicks and after while it's done19:22
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* RST38h yawns. How are things tonight?19:22
jacekowskiboring19:22
RST38hnot new, no.19:23
TiagoTiagoi'll try harder next time19:23
TiagoTiagobut right now if i can recover things without having to redo much nor risk unrecoverable data i would rather19:24
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GAN900RST38h, the arch team is being picked up by Intel now.19:26
RST38hGAN: <sigh>19:26
RST38hTed Nelson, founder of first hypertext project, Project Xanadu, went on to say, 'It is a strange, distorted, peculiar and difficult limited system... the browser is built around invisible links  you can see something to click on but youve got nowhere else to go.'19:26
GAN900Sakari is with Intel.19:26
GAN900Announced at LCS, apparently.19:26
RST38h-- TedNelson about WWW19:26
RST38hGAN: are they the kernel guys?19:27
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RST38hAha, I see. So, core OS and middleware, basically.19:28
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TiagoTiagoIs there a list somewhere of all the files that get overwritten and folders that get deleted when you flash just the kernel?19:32
TiagoTiagoAlso, is there a console version of the backup proggie?19:33
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SpeedEvilTiagoTiago: no files get overwritten19:37
SpeedEvilThe kernel is not in a file - it's in a partition19:37
TiagoTiagoa partition with files in it, no?19:37
SpeedEvilNo.19:37
SpeedEvilNo filesystem.19:37
TiagoTiagooh, i thought it was a bunch of system binaries and configs somewhere19:38
SpeedEvilFlashing the kernel alone may cause problems with lack of modules19:38
* TiagoTiago sighs19:38
TiagoTiagook, back to considering reflashing the rootfs19:38
TiagoTiagowill that touch the partition table?19:38
SpeedEvilNo.19:39
TiagoTiagoI'll loose everything outside of /home though, right?19:39
jacekowskiyes19:39
SpeedEvilNo.19:40
SpeedEvilLose.19:40
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TiagoTiagosorry, been getting a tad relapse with my spelling for some reason19:41
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SpeedEvilSorry - I'm feeling pointlessly eunastic.19:41
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SpeedEvilennuistic even.19:44
jacekowskiwhat about getting a job?19:44
TiagoTiagoi can't find either on Wiktionary :/19:45
SpeedEvilI have major problems concentrating or doing anything for periods of time exceeding a few minutes without lying down most of the time.19:45
SpeedEvilhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ennui19:45
SpeedEvilTRoday, making two shelves for my wardrobe has just about exhausted me.19:46
TiagoTiagoI saw a thing about a condition like that on FOX News a while ago, i think it was called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or somthing19:47
SpeedEvilI'm familiar withthe condition. It's not a whole heap of fun.19:47
TiagoTiagoindeed doesn't sound like it would be19:48
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TiagoTiagoUnder my situation ( http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 ) would you recommend against reflashing rootfs for any reason?19:52
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GAN900SpeedEvil, ennuistic, I like that.19:53
TiagoTiagoat least that can't be misspelled as "board"19:54
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TiagoTiagobe back in a moment20:04
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TiagoTiagoback20:12
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Treibholzdamn, the latest subversion segfaults20:37
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TiagoTiagohttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <- what are the risks involved if i reflash the rootfs? And what am i expected to have to install and set again?20:43
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Azogis there a way to debug gps on the n900? i can't see a satellite with mappero20:47
Azognvm i should just activate it in settings, doh20:48
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BCMMTiagoTiago: flashing from a PC?20:49
TiagoTiagoyeah20:50
BCMMTiagoTiago: risks, not really. and you'd be reinstalling the lot20:50
BCMMTiagoTiago: stuff in ~/MyDocs shouldn't be effected. other stuff in ~/ will go20:50
BCMMso for most apps, that means your settings go and your documents stay20:51
BCMMif you've got a shell, back stuff up20:51
TiagoTiagoWhy did they thought it was a good idea to keep user programs together with system files?20:51
BCMMi approve20:52
BCMMthe last thing maemo needs is *more* partitions20:52
BCMMthey aren't kept together; they're just on the same filesystem20:52
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BCMMbackup ~/ apart from ~/MyDocs and you've got settings for most applications20:52
TiagoTiagoi shouldn't need to reinstall programs just to replace missing/corrupt system files :(20:53
BCMMwell, work out how to fix the problem then20:54
BCMMor, do the convinient thing and reset more than you really need to to factory settings20:54
BCMM(i recommend making backups, then doing the latter)20:54
TiagoTiagoi need help figuring out what went wrong, not all that fluent in the systems involved20:55
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TiagoTiagoHaving to resintall so much shit over a throtled down 3g connection or hanging a metter from the PC i would rather avoid....20:58
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TiagoTiagoit would already be a pain with broadband over WiFi 'cause of the slowdowns during installations21:02
MohammadAGffs21:03
MohammadAGI need to demo some Qt app to someone on Symbian^3 and the damn QtSDK fails to build21:03
TiagoTiago:(21:03
TiagoTiagogood luck there21:05
MohammadAGthe TRK shows the port correctly, the SDK doesn't even detect the device21:06
BCMMTiagoTiago: backup your apt cache21:06
MohammadAGcorrupt system files?21:08
chadiIs it only me, or is the camera ui slower when attempting to focus with half a press?21:08
TiagoTiagoi think i have it symlinked to spmehwere inside /home , not shure how far back the cache goes though21:08
TiagoTiagoMohammadAG: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7217021:09
chadiforgot to mention: on the latest cssu21:09
MohammadAGtry apt-get --reinstall install hildon-status-menu21:10
MohammadAGthat should bring back the status menu21:10
TiagoTiagoalright, booting up to try that21:11
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TiagoTiagoshould i need to reboot to see the effect?21:19
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TiagoTiagowell, rebooting21:20
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TiagoTiagosystem sounds still missing, at least in the pin entry screen21:24
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TiagoTiagoMohammadAG: i tried reinstalling hildon-status-menu it didn't error out, but nothing change :(21:28
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MohammadAGwhat if you run it manually?21:33
TiagoTiagobtw, seems vibrations are also gone21:34
TiagoTiagohildon-status-menu? lemme try21:34
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Venemogood evening Maemo! :)21:34
TiagoTiagonow it shows21:35
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TiagoTiagosounds are back too21:35
TiagoTiagoIt even got all the buttons it usually have in the statusbar menu21:36
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TiagoTiagoCorrection, only some of the sounds21:39
TiagoTiagono keys it seems21:39
TiagoTiagono screen21:39
TiagoTiagonor*21:39
Sazpaimon_okay so is there ANY way to do L2TP/IPsec on maemo?21:40
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Sazpaimon_(with the power kernel)21:41
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thomasjfoxSazpaimon_: Normal ipsec is in extras-testing. Look for strongswan21:47
Sazpaimon_I have strong swan, but that seems to use IKEv221:48
thomasjfoxSazpaimon_: True that21:48
Sazpaimon_I specifically need l2tp21:48
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Sazpaimon_i can pay $5 more a month for openvpn, but before I do that, I'd like to know if I can use l2tp21:50
TiagoTiagoIs that anything like Hamachi?21:51
Sazpaimon_kind of, yeah21:52
Sazpaimon_it's with another providor though21:52
TiagoTiagoYou can kinda use Hamachi, no GUI though21:54
Sazpaimon_I'd prefer to use the VPN account I pay for, personallu21:54
Sazpaimon_*personally21:54
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E0xand for what exactly you need that in you n900 ?21:55
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TiagoTiagoConnect to your home/office machines anywhere you go as if they were on the local network?21:55
E0xssh tunnel ?21:56
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TiagoTiagoI think so21:56
TiagoTiagohaven't tried yet21:56
TiagoTiagoand my N900 is down right now :(21:56
Sazpaimon_a vpn allows me to keep a single IP address as well, even if I'm on 3G or wifi21:57
pupnikSDL_FillRect(surface, &box, SDL_MapRGBA(surface->format,0,0,0,0));  that's not transparent :(21:57
Sazpaimon_and I can possibl;y bypass my network's NAT firewall21:57
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MohammadAGany sybmian devs around? :P22:20
pupnikcheck the channel22:21
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jacekowskiehh i just bought "usb" charger22:32
jacekowskiD+ to D-22:33
jacekowski50kOhms22:33
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TiagoTiagobbl22:39
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jacekowskihmm22:48
jacekowskiNokia-N900:/sys# cat  ./devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger22:48
jacekowski122:48
jacekowskiNokia-N900:/sys# cat ./class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0048/twl4030_usb/vbus22:48
jacekowski122:48
jacekowskiand it's not charging22:48
Sazpaimon_i just bit the bullet and added openvpn to my service22:51
Sazpaimon_its $5, big deal22:51
jacekowskihmm22:51
jacekowskii found the problem22:51
jacekowskibut i had to use my old bme work22:51
jacekowskii was plugging in cable into charger and then couple seconds later shorting D+ D-22:52
jacekowskiD+ and D- has to be shorted while plugging in22:52
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pupnik valgrind-3.6.0: Depends: libc6-dbg but it is not installable23:18
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pupniklibc6-dbg_2.5.1-1eglibc19+0m5_armel.deb23:20
pupnikis that safe to install on device?23:21
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jacekowskiPhonicUK: yes23:51
jacekowskipupnik: yes23:51
pupnikty jacekowski23:52
pupnikdevice seems to still function23:52
pupniknow to valgrind my app23:52
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jacekowskihmmm23:54
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jacekowskithere is no easy way of checking what is current charger current delivered to n90023:55
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ShadowJKjacekowski, correct23:59

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