IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2011-04-13

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MohammadAGheh, the PS3's BT remote is fun00:02
tripzeroyou can send files without pairing00:02
MohammadAG0-9 keys actually send proper HID codes00:02
MohammadAGeject ejects my laptop's drive00:02
MohammadAGplay button toggles playback too00:03
MohammadAGI love how sony uses standards for most parts00:03
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MohammadAGtripzero, try pairing without a key, it doesn't work00:07
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MohammadAGat least with the N900's UI00:09
ShadowJKuh, duh00:09
GeneralAntillesSeasoning large batches of caste iron is such a pain.00:10
ShadowJKBecause pairing is all about exchanging the keys to make a permanent (until user deletes it) authentication00:10
pupnikwb GeneralAntilles00:10
GeneralAntillespupnik: bonding a layer of carbon to the surface.00:10
pupnikinteresting activity00:11
GeneralAntillespupnik: never cooked on cast iron?00:11
pupniki always scrubbed it00:11
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pupnikguess i'm silly00:11
MohammadAGShadowJK, connecting without a key should be possible with the UI nontheless00:11
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MohammadAGmost mice and HID devices don't come with a key nowadays00:12
GeneralAntillespupnik: better than teflon when it's seasoned correctly.00:12
pupnikgood ol tech! :)00:12
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: those have a standard pin, like 000000:14
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* ShadowJK knew how to make BlueZ3 accept unauthenticated incoming connection :/00:15
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MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, not the one I'm using now00:17
DocScrutinizerI usually name my BT device "Your Network Provider Update Service ", so when I try to send a file to an unpaired other phone, the message showing there is: >>Your Network Provider Update Service wants to transmit a file! Accept / Reject?<<00:17
pupnikwb nox00:18
nox-moin pupnik00:18
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GeneralAntillesBy the way, in case you've missed it:
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pupnikany you enjoy from that GeneralAntilles ?00:23
GeneralAntillespupnik: Only played a bit of Trine. Mostly a cartoony D2 clone.00:23
GeneralAntillesBut well enough put togeth.r00:23
pupnikdescent 2?  <nausea>00:25
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GeneralAntillesDiable II00:29
pupnikoh neat00:29
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GeneralAntillespupnik, ever played Avara?00:30
MohammadAG~seen lcuk00:31
infobotlcuk <lcuk@Maemo/community/contributor/lcuk> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 11d 23h 36m 1s ago, saying: 'thiago_home, do kdelibs load faster then?'.00:31
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pupniknope GeneralAntilles00:33
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pupnikinteresting, something macheads would know00:34
pupnikoh bolo was fun too00:35
SpeedEvilBolo was awesome.00:35
GeneralAntillesBolo was amazing.00:36
GeneralAntillesI wish they had a modern clone that people actually played.00:36
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pupnikthere was something a bit similar for PC called 'snipe'00:38
pupnik"brun bolo"00:38
pupnikahh brun00:38
pupnikthe memories00:38
pupnik"whirr whirr whirr"00:39
pupnikand the sound of that apple speaker00:40
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pupniknice touch: in bolo explosions from enemies that touched you would kill you00:42
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pupnik  TSA molests and drug tests 6 year old  baahahah00:55
pupnikcomments are precious00:56
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SpeedEvilI see china has their own definition of cute.01:45
GeneralAntillesWhat the hell kind of useless game doesn't let you bind punctuation keys? . . .01:45
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pupnikhehe the one i'm on has limited bindings also01:49
SpeedEvilI've played nethack on the n900.01:50
SpeedEvilIt's a bit silly.01:50
cehtehmhm .. i have an external numpad keyboard .. with hostmode one could plug that into the n90001:51
cehtehonce i buyed that for playing nethack on my laptop :P01:51
SpeedEvilThat would make nethack actually playable.01:51
cehtehexactly :)01:52
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DibblahRight. Confirmed, I think, that something is very dead in my N900's VBUS circuitry.01:52
SpeedEvilOr travel-to-press.01:52
SpeedEvilIs it a rabbit?01:52
DibblahCould be, but it'd have to be a very small rabbit. A pico-rabbit, if you will.01:53
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SpeedEvilWhere were you  applying vbus?01:53
DibblahOn the fuse right next to the USB port.01:55
DibblahI've confirmed continuity all the way up to a capacitor just by the USB charger chip.01:55
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SpeedEvilOh - I was thinking GAIA had the USB hostmode charegpump and battery charger - my bad.01:56
SpeedEvilMemory fade.01:56
pupnika collection of free icons
SpeedEvilHmm. Someone plugged in a high voltage PSU - then ripped the USB connector off - then tried for warranty?01:58
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DibblahCould be - But you'd have to be rather insane to make up a microUSB -> anything other than 5v.02:01
SpeedEvilBroken charger?02:01
DibblahPossibly. Would have to be very broken to be able to desolder the connector :)02:02
SpeedEvilMaybe they thought that that would be a fault that required a motherboard replacement - and warranty was denied for some reason?02:03
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DibblahI'm going with "it's just broke and I can't fix it" :)02:04
SpeedEvilFair enough.02:04
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* GeneralAntilles notes the CALM act has seemingly accomplished absolutely nothing.03:12
GeneralAntillesGo, go, big goverment!03:12
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tripzeroGeneralAntilles, yays03:23
tripzerolols: "CALM Act is the most popular piece of legislation she's sponsored in her 18 years in Congress."03:24
tripzero18years well spent03:24
tripzeroin school, we'd give her a "gold star" for effort03:24
tripzeroi'm so glad i don't watch tv03:25
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SpeedEvilI would be a supporter of a meta-act.03:26
SpeedEvilA requirement to transmit metadata along with audio passed through a compressor (audio, not data) to enable teh compression reversing.03:27
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GeneralAntillestripzero: wouldn't, but sports, you know. . . .03:33
tripzeroi try to watch my sports online if i can03:33
tripzeroalthough for some sports that isn't possible03:33
GeneralAntillesYes, any big team in a local market. :P03:33
tripzeroand even for the NBA, it's difficult at times03:33
tripzeroyeh, :(03:34
GeneralAntillesMLB really needs to update its incredibly archaic broadcast regulations.03:34
GeneralAntillesStupid tax-payer supported monopolies.03:34
GeneralAntilles'course MLB is all about the "Tradition" (read: slimeball corruption).03:35
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* GeneralAntilles chuckles at Boston being fail.03:36
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tripzerothe city or the team?03:36
tripzero(or both?)03:36
GeneralAntillesWell, both.03:36
GeneralAntillesBut the baseball team right at this moment.03:36
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GeneralAntillesWas talking to one of the MLB owners at a book signing last Summer. He said there's basically no chance of getting TV reviews with the current MLB dictatorship.03:37
GeneralAntillesEven though most of the owners want it.03:37
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tripzero"hey gentoo user, why don't you use this project?" user: "because of the deps on libqt and dbus".  "what's wrong with... oh, you are a gentoo user, it all makes sense now..."03:42
tripzerosome people's children...03:43
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Sc0rpiuswe need an update to Maemo pidgin :(05:18
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luke-jr|otgPySide too08:16
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slonopotamus__otg__ - run, forrest, run08:17
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JaffaMorning, all10:58
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crashanddiemorning Jaffa11:07
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DocScrutinizerhi Jaffa11:17
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DocScrutinizerluke-jr|otg: was that you who needed speakers?11:18
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meceWhy am I not allowed to buy something from ovi store that doesn't work on my phone? Do they hate money?11:22
fralsmost likely to product stupid users from themselves ;)11:23
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meceThey should make an exception for angry birds rio11:24
DocScrutinizerproduce :-)11:24
mecefrals, I understood it :)11:25
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DocScrutinizerduh TWD11:31
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timeless_w7ipmece: chargebacks are very expensive to stores11:36
timeless_w7ipstores really do not want to be in a position where customers buy something and return it11:36
timeless_w7ip1. they get no net money from the initial sale11:36
DocScrutinizerI guess I have to *bring* EUR to change those to... nothing11:36
timeless_w7ip2. they have to pay for the chargeback cost11:36
mecetimeless_w7ip, I understand that, it's still annoying.11:37
timeless_w7ipthat doesn't count any other overhead or the fact that the customer was disastisfied and badmouths them for the sale of goods which don't work11:38
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mecetimeless_w7ip, well, they should still make it so that you can do it with some light hacking ;)11:39
timeless_w7ip"i know what i'm doing, please take my money" ?11:40
DocScrutinizerc'mon OVI - what yer talking bout?11:40
timeless_w7ipfwiw iirc google doesn't allow hackers to use its store at all11:40
timeless_w7ipor maybe they offer "all sales final"11:40
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timeless_w7ipi think initially it was the former11:40
timeless_w7ipthey might have switched to the latter11:41
DocScrutinizerwtf google store?11:41
mecehah, Rovio solved my problem :D11:41
DocScrutinizerI'm hopelessly behind the moon11:41
mecefrom twitter: @mece66: @roviomobile How can I send you some monies so I can steal Angry Birds Rio with a clean conscience?11:42
mece@RovioMobile: @mece66 maybe you could buy one of our toys at
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mecebut which one?11:43
meceThe yellow bird is my favorite in the game. I think I'll go with that one.11:43
mecebut the red one is the most iconic...11:43
* mece ponders11:43
DocScrutinizerpick both ;-D11:44
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meceI bought the red one.11:47
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DocScrutinizerso is OVI now really capable of selling my 1.79$ N900 app?11:54
DocScrutinizerfellu: what?11:55
felluWhat app? :)11:55
DocScrutinizeryet to come :-P11:55
timeless_w7ipthey probably don't take USD :)11:55
DocScrutinizerwhat else? TWD?11:56
* DocScrutinizer glares again at those 1300 TWD, angrily11:56
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DocScrutinizertbh after support for maemo ceased, how can I expect OVI to support maemo app merchandise11:58
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meceAngry Birds Rio works in portrait mode, but not as well as the original angry birds.12:00
mecehmm that might actually be a preenv thing though. Forcing height to 480..12:01
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dotblankWhy hasn't someone made a a non ovi app store for the n90012:34
dotblankkinda like cydia for the iphone12:34
Treibholzdotblank: because nobody needs it.12:37
Treibholzthe OVI-appstore ist bullshit, the regular package-manager is free and open.12:37
Treibholzand you may add as many repositories as you like.12:38
MohammadAGi think he wants to sell apps outside ovi12:42
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Treibholzselling apps for a dead platform?12:52
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OkropNickHome Calendar Widget on N900 is displaying all events shifted one hour forward. Till yesterday everything was fine. Any ideas how to fix it?13:23
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OkropNickI mean Calendar Home Widget13:27
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Termanagood morning13:58
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crashanddieOkropNick, it's called daylight savings time14:02
crashanddieOkropNick, you'll probably find the whole world (except for Brisbane and some other states in the US) have changed the time...14:03
OkropNickcrashanddie: I've just talking with widget developer, but thanks. I have in Poland daylight saving time too14:04
crashanddieI was going for funny.14:04
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range /act14:28
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edheldilHi, I want to flash vanilla on my n900. Are the latest versions of vanila & combined ok? I heard somebody complain about wifi after 1.3 ...14:52
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edheldiland does flashing vanilla mean flash the VANILLA and then COMBINED images? The docs are fuzzy on what image file to use for flashing the rootfs15:16
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timeless_mbpedheldil: so err15:51
timeless_mbpthere's only one rootfs and you can only flash it with one thing, because if you flash it with something else, whatever was there before will be gone15:51
timeless_mbpif you're trying to flash a recent rootfs, then you should ensure that you have backed up any data you care about and flash the vanilla image at the same time15:52
timeless_mbp'same time' is defined as 'without allowing the device to boot between'15:52
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timeless_mbpif you try flashing a very old rootfs, you wouldn't actually need to flash the emmc, because initially we didn't do optification15:53
timeless_mbpand thus the emmc was not used by the os15:53
timeless_mbp(some of the docs you'll find will data to then and thus wouldn't have a reason to mention flashing the emmc when describing how to flash the rootfs)15:53
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edheldiltimeless_mbp:  thank you ... I wanted to know whether I should avoid e.g. PR 1.3. It's a second hand phone and I wanted to get rid of anything nonstandard which could be there. I have found a good enough docs, it was just a bit too fuzzy in the flashing rootfs part - I thought I knew it talks about COMBINED image, but I was not overly sure15:58
timeless_mbpso, the naming for the images is based on internal details15:59
timeless_mbpcombined mean "support for various hardware variants that will never be seen in the wild"15:59
timeless_mbpor something like that15:59
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timeless_mbpwhat's being combined is <kernel>, <cellmo>, <rootfs> and a couple of other bits16:00
timeless_mbpmost people simply think of it as the rootfs image16:00
timeless_mbppersonally, i'm relatively happy w/ 1.316:00
timeless_mbpand would use it16:00
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timeless_mbpyou'll want to flash both rootfs and emmc16:00
timeless_mbpbe sure not to boot between16:00
edheldilno, I mean it said "Now flash the FIASCO/rootfs image using the above commands with -R parameter" - I figured it out, but for some time I thought I should use the exactly same command as before, including image filename, only with -R flag16:01
edheldilI have it flashed correctly in the end, just was a bit confused in this step16:02
timeless_mbpmost docs are in wikis16:02
timeless_mbpwikis can be changed16:02
timeless_mbpplease feel free to improve the docs16:03
edheldilwill do16:03
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MohammadAGhow does one keep debug symbols when compiling again?16:06
MohammadAG-g, nvm16:06
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crashanddieso much win:
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khertanNice i didn't notice the new camera apps in CSSU. But who do the apps ?16:45
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khertani see nothing in changelogs about iut16:45
khertanMohammadAG: qt-x11-maemo16:46
khertan    Optified libraries  <<< could this be a source of problem ?16:46
MohammadAGkhertan, nicolai16:46
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khertanreally nice apps ... working well16:47
khertanmaybe i should change my glassess16:48
merlin1991khertan: any eta on khweeteur working together with the new cssu update?16:49
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MohammadAGmerlin1991, it's not his fault16:51
MohammadAGblame achipa :P16:51
khertanmerlin1991: soon :)16:51
khertanmerlin1991: the line 0.1.6 will be discontinuted soon16:51
khertan0.5.x should be available in stable branch soon16:51
merlin1991my desktop has a space that is mssing an icon really badly ;)16:51
RST38hMohammadAG: Could you test Qthello with the latest CSSU: looks like it is now showing notifications in the wrong color or maybe does not fade them in fully (try losing a game)16:51
khertana current experimental version is available in extras-devel16:51
khertanmerlin1991: but it s experimental :)16:52
MohammadAGRST38h, will do, juts fixing some stuff with camera-u16:52
khertanmerlin1991: there is sometime some missing reply text16:52
RST38hah =) thanks16:52
khertanstill didn't know why16:52
khertanbut other that ... it s working16:52
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merlin1991btw can it be that the twitter api cuts texts sometimes?16:52
merlin1991I had it that with several clients I didn't see the full msg, but only on the webpage16:53
khertanmerlin1991: i didn't think16:53
merlin1991I only noticed that with links16:53
khertanmerlin1991: it s an error of the client on retweet ;)16:53
merlin1991wich pointed nowhere due to half of them missing16:53
khertanmessage got a truncated status16:53
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khertanthat many client ignore16:53
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GAN900crashanddie, check out Sam Fuld's catch from last week.16:54
khertanmerlin1991: but currenlty i more worried by the bug on qtextedit which was bring by 4.7.2 than something else :)16:54
MohammadAGis there a QTimer::singleShot equivalent in GLib?16:54
crashanddieGAN900, sorry?16:55
khertanMohammadAG: addTimeOut16:55
GAN900crashanddie, one sec.16:55
MohammadAGkhertan, can you confirm it's Qt 4.7.2 and not the theme?16:55
MohammadAGtry running the app with -style cleanlooks16:55
khertanMohammadAG: timeout_add to be exact :)16:55
khertanMohammadAG: ... hu ... good suggestion16:55
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khertanMohammadAG: confirmed16:56
khertanMohammadAG: same error with the cleanlook on n90016:56
* MohammadAG suggests opening a bug on Qt bugtracker16:57
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khertanMohammadAG: already done :)16:57
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khertanThe function is called repeatedly until it returns FALSE16:58
khertan <<< and the qt bug report16:58
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MohammadAGthanks :D17:00
khertanReceiving objects:   9% (46823/502403), 61.86 MiB | 124 KiB/s .... pfiou ...17:01
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khertanwilll be slow cloning :)17:01
* MohammadAG knows the feeling17:01
GAN900crashanddie, spawned another ridiculous twitter meme: #LegendofSamFuld17:02
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MohammadAGkhertan, is there a way to make it only call the function once?17:06
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MohammadAGit returns TRUE on success, FALSE on fail17:07
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khertanMohammadAG: if the called method return False, the call will be made only 1 time17:07
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MohammadAGit returns true17:08
MohammadAGoh that QLineEdit bug is weird17:08
khertanindeed :)17:08
MohammadAGnoticed it in the mediaplayer just now...17:08
khertanand every app using qt17:09
khertanseems also affecting some other text rendering17:09
khertanas someone notice invisible text in listview17:09
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khertanlook at t.m.o :)17:09
khertanthere is some complain about it17:09
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* MohammadAG looks at commits made to QLineEdit17:10
khertanMohammadAG: i didn't understand why you return true ... maybe show me your code17:10
MohammadAGkhertan, not me, it's an API17:10
achipaMohammadAG: what did I do again ? Or is it still the PyQt story ? :)17:10
* khertan have try yesterday on Gitorious without success17:10
MohammadAGFix QLineEdit's Highlight color when inactive.17:10
MohammadAGwanna bet it's that ^?17:11
khertanMohammadAG: there is a good chance17:11
MohammadAGJuly 2717:11
MohammadAGold commit17:11
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khertanachipa: cssu can't be installed for khweeteur user, as python2.5-qt4-test depends on libqt4-test =4.7.0, and khweeteur depends on python2.5-qt4 which depends on python2.5-qt4-test ...17:12
khertanyeah i use the meta package where i should not17:12
MohammadAGmeh This Git object is too large to be displayed in the browser Consider cloning the repository locally and look at the object there17:12
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achipakhertan: yeah, so pyqt story17:12
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khertanbut for promotion bug reason ... i use it17:13
achipakhertan: in fact, latest scientific research says you're doing the right thing17:13
khertanachipa: pyqt story ?17:13
MohammadAGscientific research? lol17:13
achipaHAM is inherently broken wrt to upgrade strategy for packages like pyqt17:13
MohammadAGmerlin1991, ping17:13
khertanHAM is inherently broken17:13
khertanis enough :)17:13
merlin1991MohammadAG: pong17:13
MohammadAGmerlin1991, how do I get what was changed in c46f00ec595ae60046affa1d0ed19b2e5a14d4f617:14
MohammadAGbut only for one file17:14
achipaso even though the Debian way of 'right thing' would be to depend on the particular libs, with HAM I will start bundling ALL libs in the metapackage17:14
achipai.e. the modules will be the metapackages :)17:14
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achipaas it's just way too easy to run yourself into an upgrade dead-end17:15
merlin1991MohammadAG:  git diff commit1 commit2 pathtofile17:18
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MohammadAGkhertan, qlineedit.cpp wasn't changed much17:27
MohammadAGdo you know where text highlighting is painted?17:27
khertannope sorry17:29
khertani'm far to be a qt expert :)17:29
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MohammadAGQTextEdit inherits QTextBrowser and QTextBrowser inherits QTextEdit17:31
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MohammadAGkhertan, full diff of widgets
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Venemosomeone should really fix Qt's text input bug...17:42
MohammadAGVenemo, can't fix it if you can't find it17:42
VenemoMohammadAG, meh, a Qt guy pointed me to some few thousand lines long cpp file17:43
VenemoMohammadAG, I forgot which one though. the code and the task to even try understand it seemed enormous at the time17:43
MohammadAGI just fucked up17:44
MohammadAGupgraded to Qt 4.7.2 in scratchbox17:44
MohammadAGoh well, at least that'll help to see if compiling against new Qt fixes it17:44
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OkropNickHeheh, I've just found hack to start logging duration time of calls :) It's here, post #20:
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E0xOkropNick: extened call log show the duration time18:58
E0xof the call18:58
E0xoh , wait not18:58
E0xjust the time18:58
OkropNickE0x: will be showing duration time after above hack18:59
OkropNickat least from 0.5 version18:59
MohammadAGkhertan, it's not QText*19:00
MohammadAGit's all text selection in Qt19:00
MohammadAGsee About Qt dialogs19:00
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MohammadAGchem|st, ping19:10
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E0xnew symbian update19:14
E0xlook like maemo19:14
khertanMohammadAG: ouch19:14
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alteregoIs full "Terminal" app sources FOSS19:17
* alterego wants bell to trigger vibra19:17
ruskie <-- anyone want something like java but not java?19:18
E0xscala ?19:18
E0xis a new JVM19:18
MohammadAGalterego, yes, patches to CSSU welcome :P19:18
MohammadAGcode is from 2004 I think19:18
E0xbell to trigger vibra ?19:19
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alteregoE0x: there's a ANSI control code that triggers a "bell" from you terminal, I want it to make a noise and ring vibra, hand if you use remote screen with notification scripts.19:23
alteregoOr some IRC clients can be configured to use bell on PM etc.19:23
alteregoMohammadAG: might look tonight, after I've got my meego dialer work merged. :)19:24
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MohammadAGalterego, sources here
* SpeedEvil ponders an exciting rapid development agile language.19:24
SpeedEvilI shall call it 'BuckFast'19:24
MohammadAGalterego, by any chance, do you know where painting of text selection is done?19:24
MohammadAGI mean, where is standard text stuff handled in Qt19:24
alteregoNot sure, must be something linked with QPainter I guess.19:25
alteregoI donmt know if Qt has anything like gtks' pange19:25
MohammadAGalterego, cause 4.7.2 introduced a bug19:26
MohammadAGif text is highlighted, non-highlighted text is white on white19:26
MohammadAGor black on black19:27
alteregoThat's probably a theming issue19:27
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MohammadAGit's not, already considered that19:27
alteregoAnd this is m5 Qt 4.7.2 right?19:27
MohammadAGusing -style cleanlooks does the same19:27
MohammadAGalterego, upstream19:27
alteregoInteresting. I'd get someone to confirm in #qt19:27
MohammadAGwell, I need to check if 4.7.2 on my PC does the same19:28
MohammadAGbut I can't find a PPA for it, and I cba to build19:28
lolcatMy theme is ugly19:28
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mikki-kunuhhh, can anybody tell me why the new community ssu wants me to have nokia software suite installed?!19:36
MohammadAGprobably a conflict, try apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr19:36
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slonopotamusssu is just a piece of code, it can't want anything19:37
wmaroneuntil they start including the self-awareness module!19:37
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mikki-kunok, that solved it... using inbuilt app-manager wanted me to connect my n900 via usb to my pc and run from there pc-suite19:39
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chadiif I copy my CSSU transitions.ini (the one with additional settings) on a phone without any CSSU update, is there any problem? Will hildon-desktop crash?19:51
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DocScrutinizer*should* not19:58
DocScrutinizerbut who lmows about secrets of h-d19:58
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Robot101some folks hiding in Collabora do... :)19:59
DocScrutinizergeneral paradigm is there must not be any problems with unknown keys and empty/commented lines in ini files19:59
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DocScrutinizerRobot101: do they have particular reason to hide? :-P20:00
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Robot101just working on totally unrelated stuff mostly20:01
DocScrutinizerI heard QSettings segfaults on #comment lines20:01
khertanMohammadAG: whouhou... finally finish the download of the qt git clone of qt20:03
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DocScrutinizer( why the new community ssu wants me to have nokia software suite )20:06
* DocScrutinizer mentions that his HAM has not shown ANY conflicts for the update20:06
DocScrutinizerbut I haven't allowed it to update yet20:07
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MohammadAG<DocScrutinizer> I heard QSettings segfaults on #comment lines20:16
MohammadAGno, just replaces them with UTF20:16
DocScrutinizer51haha like #0223 = ">"?20:17
chadianyway, thank you for the info20:17
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MohammadAGDocScrutinizer51, sort of, yeah20:19
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DocScrutinizer51well, they shouldn't use plain QString for files like those20:20
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DocScrutinizer51prolly #1 of Qt WTFs20:21
DocScrutinizer51a shame not even Qt devels get their sh*t sorted20:22
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DocScrutinizer51the QA for Qt products somewhat seen a scaring decay since beginning of the story20:26
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MohammadAGranting about it doesn't help :P20:31
DocScrutinizersure, ranting is always the first step20:31
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DocScrutinizerseious devels are happy about good rant, much more than about unqualified cheers20:33
DocScrutinizermarketing droids and HR dudes aren't exactly happy about it, but it gives them a reality check20:34
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GAN900Or they just ignore you.20:36
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DocScrutinizerthose are the morituri20:42
DocScrutinizerand of course those living happily in autism of "I'm doing it for MY fun"20:44
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newbie007Hi, I've installed icetea6 (java) and I'm getting an error from a java app. "UnsatisfiedLinkError: jnidispatch" Somewhere I found a similar bug for an older version of Maemo. (I'm using a n900). Any ideas to fix this?21:47
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newbie007This is the error:
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newbie007What I'm trying to do is install Gmote-server so I can use my nook color as a mouse to my n900.  The reason for that is that nothing android offers is as open or as good as what maemo / hildon-desktop offer21:55
onen|openBmapnewbie007: hi21:56
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onen|openBmapnewbie007: are you trying to run an android app?21:56
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newbie007Only on the nook color. The Gmote-server is made for desktops21:57
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onen|openBmapnewbie007: I see21:57
newbie007really what I want is hildon-desktop and repos on my nook color. But a 3d driver is stopping that from happening.21:57
newbie007Maemo is superior to andoid imho21:58
onen|openBmap *jni*dispatch makes me think this has sth to do whith native code being accessed from java21:58
newbie007If I worked for nokia I would release all of the closed source stuff for the n900 so that maemo could then over take the android devices21:58
newbie007I'm not familiar with it myself. When I looked into the requirements for that app, it stated that only VLC was required.21:59
onen|openBmapnewbie007: not that simple. what mostly blocks porting are proprietatry closed stuffs on phones (drivers compiled agains Google libc for example, and thus incompatible withc "standard" glibc21:59
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onen|openBmapto me this looks like either a lib is missing on the java side (jni related), or some native software is missing and the java code just cannot find it22:01
onen|openBmapif VLC is required, how is it used? direct use of the library? this is most probably native22:01
newbie007I was assuming tha ta lib is missing on the Java side. Seems like I need to find the owner of that app and start there.. ?22:02
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onen|openBmapthat could explain why the java app cannot access it22:02
newbie007About vlc.. I'm not sure, but even Maemo supplies a VLC Remote viewer22:02
newbie007VLC is doing some sort of screen capture and forwarding over apache22:02
onen|openBmapdid you try any other java app? does it work? another way to ask: are you sure your java environment is working fine?22:03
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newbie007I have not tried that, I will. It seems that running java at the command line works as expected22:05
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onen|openBmapnot sure with icetea, but regular jdk (or is it sdk) embeds some java (java swing, java2D, etc.) examples apps22:07
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onen|openBmapif available, this would be a good test of your java environment working fine or not22:08
newbie007I'm looking for something now22:08
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onen|openBmapkeep in mind, that even if a 100% java app runs fine, this does not show that a java app with jni calls works22:09
newbie007Yes there is a Micro Emulator program that works22:09
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onen|openBmapdo you know if this uses native code?22:12
newbie007no I do not22:13
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newbie007The error from the app (user friendly error message) is " /com/sun/jna/linux-arm/ not found in resouce path  "22:15
onen|openBmapthis looks like it is looking relative to whatever paths explored by java (environment variable like JAVA_...), for a path ../com/sun/[snip]/libjnidispatch.so22:17
onen|openBmapand cannot find it22:17
onen|openBmaplook for a file on your computer22:17
onen|openBmapif you cannot find it22:17
onen|openBmaplook for it in packages. You may find that this is in another package that you have not installed22:18
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onen|openBmapunder debian exists a tool apt-file IIRC, that might help finding a file, and to which package it belongs, even if not installed22:19
maybeArgh old?22:19
newbie007onen|openBmap: I did a  "cd / " then "find  | grep libjni "22:22
newbie007except for 300 "Permission denied" errors I did not find this file22:23
onen|openBmapnewbie007: faster $locate name-of-file (check the last update of the database, with updatedb command)22:23
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onen|openBmapnewbie007: is apt-file available in repos?22:24
onen|openBmap(by the way, the java you installed, does it come from regular repositories?)22:24
newbie007the java comes from the regular repos, nothing special on my part22:26
onen|openBmapis apt-file available in repos? $sudo apt-get install apt-file   ?22:28
newbie007I'm looking for it22:28
newbie007there is something called "aptly", also "Aptitude package manager". I already have apt-get but not apt-file22:29
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newbie007maybeArgh: would it be possible for nokia workers to go rogue, and start building hildon-desktop targeted at android hardware.  I personally would dump Google Market in a second, in exchange for an open alternative22:32
onen|openBmaptry: $sudo apt-get update22:32
onen|openBmap$apt-cache search apt-file22:32
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newbie007okay will do22:33
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onen|openBmapnewbie007: (sudo if used under maemo (sorry I have no maemo at hand!), otherwise you have to be root)22:38
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newbie007onen|openBmap: sorry, I'm having to reboot, also seems I don't have gainroot installed... I'm getting there22:54
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onen|openBmapnewbie007: what I meant is that to install package through apt-get install, you need rights to do so22:55
onen|openBmapnewbie007: and that is either by being root, or through sudo22:55
newbie007I get you22:55
onen|openBmapnewbie007: I don't know what maemo uses...22:55
newbie007I have either forgotten my root or never had it,, I think I never had it,, so getting gainroot should do it22:56
newbie007*root password22:56
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newbie007I'm having dependancy issues getting apt-file..23:08
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newbie007onen|openBmap: okay I was able to perform a search using aplty, could never install apt-file. I was not able to find jnidispatch using that23:14
newbie007I can find other lib* files though23:15
onen|openBmapwell then it looks like it expects the presence of, but if you cannot find any package which provides it...23:15
onen|openBmapsorry I have no maemo phone for now. so I cannot look by myself :-(23:16
newbie007thanks for your help!23:17
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onen|openBmapno pb23:20
onen|openBmapI might be able to look at it in the future though23:21
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onen|openBmapgood night23:21
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RST38hmoo pupnik23:29
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