| gn00b | when i look at the available memory, it shows that i have 253.0MB available | 00:00 |
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| pupnik | i wonder if you can get root without installing a package | 00:03 |
| gn00b | can't install rootfs | 00:03 |
| gn00b | sudo asks for a password | 00:03 |
| pupnik | what does the application manager log say when you try to install an app? | 00:04 |
| pupnik | there's a button somewhere for the logfile | 00:05 |
| gn00b | gonna have to put it in pastebin | 00:07 |
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| pupnik | well is there one error message? | 00:07 |
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| pupnik | also you can get root without installing extra apps http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access | 00:08 |
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| gn00b | http://pastebin.com/juS1GG6r | 00:13 |
| MohammadAG | ever dropped the device? | 00:15 |
| gn00b | never | 00:16 |
| gn00b | bought it used on nov 12th. worked fine up until now | 00:17 |
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| pupnik | gn00b: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70631 | 00:19 |
| pupnik | same error | 00:19 |
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| pupnik | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 | 00:20 |
| povbot` | Bug 10305: Application Manager in PR1.2 says not enough space even though there is. | 00:20 |
| pupnik | bug discussion | 00:20 |
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| pupnik | you need to free up space gn00b | 00:20 |
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| gn00b | doesn't it free up space when i do a hard reset? | 00:21 |
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| pupnik | if you do a df, what partition has apt-worker: freespace(/home/)= 161075200 ? | 00:22 |
| gn00b | all my music/pics are stored on my microsd card. the only thing on the phone is apps. and there really weren't that many | 00:22 |
| pupnik | i recall your opt was quite full of stuff | 00:23 |
| gn00b | df doesn | 00:23 |
| gn00b | df doesn't show apt-worker anywhere | 00:24 |
| pupnik | yea do you see anything with about 161 mb free? | 00:24 |
| gn00b | * /home and /opt both have 157 | 00:25 |
| pupnik | in one thread a guy says he needs 200MB free | 00:26 |
| pupnik | and that that solved it for him | 00:26 |
| gn00b | let me get be clear on something...a hard reset is just like a clean install, correct? | 00:27 |
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| vi__ | is it possible to install maemo to eMMC and swap to nand? | 00:32 |
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| vi__ | is it possible to roll our own firmware? | 00:37 |
| SpeedEvil | In principle, it's possible to dothat, I've never seen anyone report trying, with success though. | 00:38 |
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| MohammadAG | yeah sure, just ask Nokia Legal | 00:39 |
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| vi__ | could I use rescue kernel with usb mode and dd my own image on and off the device? | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Orsomething similar - I don't know id trhat exacrt way will actually work | 00:40 |
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| MohammadAG | dd-ing the mtdblock is something I suggest you don't do | 00:41 |
| MohammadAG | for your own good :P | 00:41 |
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| vi__ | lol, ok broski | 00:41 |
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| MohammadAG | for the eMMC, it shouldn't matter | 00:41 |
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| MohammadAG | but for the rootfs, I had to recover with Ubuntu on the N900 | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | I know someone that's reflashed their OneNand from a meego boot - due to the USB connector being broken. | 00:42 |
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| vi__ | if there was just some way i could rip the current state of my device to my own personal image | 00:42 |
| vi__ | thatd be sweet | 00:42 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC backupmenu will do that | 00:42 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 00:42 |
| vi__ | i was reading on the forum a post by egoshin | 00:43 |
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| vi__ | that talked about moving the rootfs | 00:43 |
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| vi__ | you know the one i am referring to? | 00:43 |
| * MohammadAG remembers it | 00:43 | |
| pupnik | gn00b: not of everything | 00:44 |
| pupnik | any of you remember what can cause HAM to give disk full error when there's apparently free space on rootfs? | 00:45 |
| pupnik | i think his /opt and /home has only 157 MB free which someone reported as causing the error | 00:46 |
| gn00b | could i connect to my pc via usb and delete everything? then do a hard reset? or would that brick it? | 00:46 |
| pupnik | well there should be things in there you can delete | 00:46 |
| pupnik | not necessarily 'everything' | 00:46 |
| pupnik | for example i seem to have a bunch of old programs in /opt | 00:47 |
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| pupnik | if you look in there and see programs you don't have installed, those directories should be safe to remove | 00:47 |
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| BCMM | pupnik: does dpkg have a way to ask which package owns a specified file? | 00:48 |
| BCMM | (like dpgk -L, only backwards) | 00:48 |
| pupnik | yes BCMM and i keep forgetting it | 00:48 |
| gn00b | ok...just got the truth from my son. he tried to install debian, but it didn't take. | 00:48 |
| pupnik | erm maybe not dpkg itself | 00:48 |
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| vi__ | was egoshins script...sucessful? | 00:49 |
| pupnik | BCMM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-file | 00:49 |
| gn00b | pupnik, what can i go in and delete? | 00:49 |
| vi__ | can i install it in paralell with backup menu? | 00:49 |
| pupnik | gn00b: to see what takes up space in a directory, i do this | 00:50 |
| pupnik | du -s /opt/* |sort -n | 00:50 |
| vi__ | i.e. kb open = BU menu kb blosed = eMMC boot | 00:50 |
| vi__ | which directories have to be left on NAND? | 00:50 |
| vi__ | for this sucker ro keep booting? | 00:51 |
| pupnik | heh, how do you do a | on n900 without the terminal hack | 00:51 |
| pupnik | well you don't need the |sort -n part | 00:51 |
| MohammadAG | blue + ctrl | 00:51 |
| pupnik | ty | 00:51 |
| vi__ | pupnik: you alter your rx-51 file | 00:51 |
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| gn00b | 34588 /opt/lib 32352 /opt/usr 13020 /opt/var | 00:52 |
| pupnik | ah that's not taking up the space then | 00:52 |
| pupnik | then it's some junk in home, probably the debian install | 00:52 |
| vi__ | MohammadAG: does egoshin still hang out on here? | 00:53 |
| MohammadAG | not sure if he even got on here | 00:53 |
| vi__ | so he is another qwerty12 | 00:54 |
| vi__ | a genius that died before his time | 00:54 |
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| pupnik | qwerty12 died? | 00:54 |
| vi__ | lol | 00:55 |
| vi__ | figurativly | 00:55 |
| pupnik | oh forum burn-out | 00:55 |
| pupnik | gn00b: still with us? | 00:56 |
| gn00b | yep | 00:56 |
| gn00b | getting desperate | 00:56 |
| pupnik | don't | 00:56 |
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| pupnik | du -s /home/user | 00:57 |
| pupnik | du -s /home/user/* | 00:57 |
| pupnik | sorry | 00:57 |
| MohammadAG | why not use apt-get? | 00:57 |
| pupnik | wants to use HAM | 00:58 |
| gn00b | can't sudo | 00:58 |
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| pupnik | you can becomeroot in another way as well | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | flip the switch on R&D mode | 00:58 |
| pupnik | but what should he do as root? | 00:58 |
| gn00b | 1695420 /home/user/MyDocs 8 /home/user/Xorg.0.log | 00:58 |
| pupnik | besides free up the space | 00:59 |
| MohammadAG | check if /home is writable, if not, fsck it | 00:59 |
| pupnik | don't paste everything it spets out | 00:59 |
| pupnik | MohammadAG: do you think it's related to this bug? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 | 01:00 |
| povbot` | Bug 10305: Application Manager in PR1.2 says not enough space even though there is. | 01:00 |
| pupnik | or do you think it might be related to only 157 MB free in /home? | 01:01 |
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| MohammadAG | I have no idea how HAM calculates this stuff | 01:01 |
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| pupnik | there was some discussion from someone who had HAM error-out when /home was < 200MB | 01:02 |
| LjL | any hint about an N810 that's suddenly decided to reboot-loop, aside from reflashing? (its internal disk is likely full, i suspect that's at least part of the reason) | 01:02 |
| pupnik | i mean > 200MB | 01:02 |
| pupnik | gn00b: du -s /home/user/MyDocs/* might show you some huge directories as well that you can delete | 01:05 |
| pupnik | heh, did for me | 01:05 |
| gn00b | yep...there's the debian image files | 01:06 |
| pupnik | it's cool your son wants to install debian though :| | 01:07 |
| gn00b | yeah, but not on my n900 | 01:07 |
| pupnik | :) | 01:07 |
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| gn00b | "1 application successfully installed" | 01:09 |
| gn00b | :-) | 01:09 |
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| pupnik | awesome | 01:09 |
| gn00b | thanx for your help | 01:09 |
| pupnik | you're very welcome | 01:10 |
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| gn00b | was already on ebay about to bid on another one | 01:10 |
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| pupnik | i'll post the workaround on that bugreport | 01:12 |
| vi__ | mm, i gotta get another n900. i am hoping they will go cheap when the n9/n950/whatever is released | 01:12 |
| pupnik | me too | 01:13 |
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| vi__ | unless it is shit | 01:13 |
| vi__ | in which case price may rise! | 01:13 |
| vi__ | has anyone compiled hdparm for n900 yet? | 01:13 |
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| vi__ | oh yeah, debian binary | 01:14 |
| pupnik | hmm can't log in | 01:14 |
| vi__ | how much faster is NAND than eMMC?? | 01:14 |
| SpeedEvil | vi__: It's hard to say. | 01:14 |
| SpeedEvil | Raw read and write of large bloks is not. | 01:15 |
| SpeedEvil | I have not done small random write tests. | 01:15 |
| pupnik | gn00b: do you have an account on https://bugs.maemo.org/? | 01:15 |
| gn00b | not yet | 01:15 |
| gn00b | guess i should get one, huh? | 01:15 |
| vi__ | can the NAND be repartitioned? | 01:15 |
| vi__ | or should i say partitioned? | 01:16 |
| SpeedEvil | It is partitioned int 5 (?) at the moment | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | into | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | It is_not_ a block device - it's important to realise this. | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | Trying to treat it as a block device will screw you up. | 01:17 |
| vi__ | oh? | 01:17 |
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| pupnik | god damn it, i just changed my pass and i'm not getting on | 01:18 |
| vi__ | how do you mean? | 01:18 |
| SpeedEvil | The raw nand is a mtd device - a raw flash - this has bad blocks. | 01:18 |
| pupnik | gn00b: if you'd file that workaround to the bug i'd appreciate it | 01:18 |
| SpeedEvil | If you treat it as a block device, you ignore bad blocks. This is bad. | 01:18 |
| pupnik | i want to get back to my program | 01:18 |
| vi__ | right | 01:18 |
| vi__ | so how do nokia work around this issue? | 01:19 |
| pupnik | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 | 01:19 |
| povbot` | Bug 10305: Application Manager in PR1.2 says not enough space even though there is. | 01:19 |
| SpeedEvil | vi__: ubifs understands bad blocks | 01:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | cat /sys/class/ubi/ubi0/bad_peb_count | 01:20 |
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| SpeedEvil | This is bad blocks. Mine has one. | 01:20 |
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| vi__ | so i cant really use it as a disk then? | 01:20 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 01:20 |
| SpeedEvil | Not unless the firlesystem understands that it's flash. | 01:20 |
| vi__ | aaah | 01:20 |
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| vi__ | ubifs is a file system? | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | It is really 2009 (in my case) seperate 128K seperately erasable storage units. | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 01:21 |
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| SpeedEvil | the emmc is too - but it has hardware to hide this. | 01:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Also themicroSD | 01:22 |
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| vi__ | could i put a swap file onto it then? | 01:22 |
| vi__ | using 128k pages | 01:23 |
| vi__ | or am I just barking up the wrong ass here? | 01:23 |
| vi__ | was egoshin right when he implied there is much cpu overhead involved in dealing with ubif? | 01:25 |
| vi__ | SpeedEvil: ? | 01:25 |
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| vi__ | gtg, will have to ask you more questions tomorrow speeeeeeed | 01:27 |
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| gn00b | pupnik, can i pm you? about to file bug | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Vi: swap on 128K pages will basically do hideous things. | 01:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | Vi: Swap on flash is not really a solved well problem. However, using the native pages is about as bad an approach as you can imagine. | 01:43 |
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| chx | wind.ca! | 02:07 |
| chx | zakkkkm: hi | 02:07 |
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| zakkkkm | chx: hey! | 02:08 |
| chx | zakkkkm: i am also on Wind | 02:08 |
| zakkkkm | chx: nice :) | 02:08 |
| zakkkkm | i got the $40 unlimited back in december :) | 02:08 |
| chx | zakkkkm: what are your experiences? | 02:08 |
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| zakkkkm | Had it since like August.. perfect | 02:08 |
| zakkkkm | i did 38GB bw one month.. no throttle. | 02:08 |
| zakkkkm | I live in Toronto, so there isnt signal problems. | 02:09 |
| chx | ah Toronto | 02:09 |
| chx | I live on the wild west ;) | 02:09 |
| zakkkkm | heh | 02:09 |
| zakkkkm | out of city have some signal problems on Wind it seems. | 02:09 |
| zakkkkm | I love it though. | 02:09 |
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| chx | zakkkkm: i have a $45 winter wonder plan | 02:11 |
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| chx | zakkkkm: the miracle plans are better but this is not too bad either | 02:13 |
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| zakkkkm | chx: sorry, had to go down and get pizza | 02:20 |
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| chx | zakkkkm: my only grief is that the laptop plans cant be combined with voice so we are stuck with port block | 02:20 |
| zakkkkm | i currently use my n900 to tether to my desktop | 02:21 |
| zakkkkm | the laptop plans dont have port blocking?! | 02:21 |
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| chx | no they dont | 02:22 |
| chx | it's a different AP | 02:22 |
| zakkkkm | http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/data-plans.aspx is really cheap at $29 , with free data stick | 02:22 |
| zakkkkm | thinking of it. | 02:22 |
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| chx | we use internet.windmobile.ca but it's broadband.windmobile.ca | 02:22 |
| chx | yeah they discounted that plan | 02:22 |
| zakkkkm | hate always having to tether | 02:22 |
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| zakkkkm | but yeah, wind is awesome | 02:25 |
| chx | i found it a bit flaky | 02:25 |
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| zakkkkm | got the unlimited everything back in december for $40 a month.. dont have to worry about anything | 02:25 |
| zakkkkm | prepaid too | 02:25 |
| chx | i found fido a lot more stable for tether ( i have the iphone data plan , 6g for $30 not bad at all) but it's not AWS | 02:26 |
| zakkkkm | thanks to Wind, i bought the N900 heh | 02:26 |
| zakkkkm | which iphone? | 02:26 |
| chx | yeah Wind enabled us that | 02:26 |
| chx | just iphone data plan | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | you know you change to 1400 MTU? | 02:27 |
| chx | i wouldnt touch the iphone with a ten feet barge pole | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | when tethering | 02:27 |
| chx | no | 02:27 |
| chx | tell me more | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | heh | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | thats why your network is flaky | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | it stops at like 29mb download eh? | 02:27 |
| zakkkkm | cant even finish a download? | 02:27 |
| chx | eh | 02:28 |
| zakkkkm | right? | 02:28 |
| chx | right :( | 02:28 |
| zakkkkm | aha | 02:28 |
| zakkkkm | you have to change your mtu to 1400 | 02:28 |
| zakkkkm | by default the packet size is wrong. | 02:28 |
| zakkkkm | for some reason Wind changed it.. mobilicity did too | 02:28 |
| chx | let me see | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | so eventually the download will end.. result of it being wrong..huge technical reason fo rit | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | simple change .. " ifconfig DEVICE(probably ppp0) mtu 1400" | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | in my case its ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1400 | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | and bam, perfect tether | 02:29 |
| chx | Apr 7 00:49:21 veyron pppd[17455]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <auth pap> <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0xa0000>] | 02:29 |
| chx | that's wrong, right? | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | theres your problem :) | 02:29 |
| zakkkkm | run ifconfig find the device | 02:30 |
| chx | right, next time it'll be fine, i am on Shaw right now, the N900 is just fallback | 02:30 |
| zakkkkm | if for instance its ppp0 ... do ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1400 ( as root, so probably sudo ) | 02:30 |
| chx | i fixed /etc/ppp/options on the laptop | 02:30 |
| chx | no need to change every time, there is an mtu | 02:30 |
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| zakkkkm | so yeah, should be perfect now :) | 02:31 |
| zakkkkm | wow time goes fast, should be getting ready for work soon | 02:31 |
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| Clmbr | hi all | 06:02 |
| Clmbr | any able to help me...Ever since I've installed audio boost, it takes about 4-5 rings to bring up the phone inteface-then the volume increase and I can answer the call if voice mails doesn't pick up or the part hangs up =/ | 06:04 |
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| Proteous | I've never used audio boost | 06:09 |
| Proteous | did you try uninstalling it? | 06:09 |
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| Clmbr | nah i will likly end up do so though. | 06:11 |
| Clmbr | ty for reply. | 06:12 |
| Proteous | I had a bad experience with an EQ app I tried | 06:13 |
| Proteous | a while back. made the audio pop and use a lot of CPU | 06:13 |
| Clmbr | uggg, i would be upset =/....I work around loud machinery and chainsaws and I really enjoy the audio boost but seems buggy, so if i'm unable to answer my calls thats a bigger issue. | 06:17 |
| Proteous | yeah, disrupting phone functionality is no good | 06:18 |
| Proteous | maybe try some headphones/earbuds that block out noise better | 06:18 |
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| ZogG | Proteous зштп | 06:20 |
| ZogG | ping | 06:20 |
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| Proteous | sure | 06:23 |
| Proteous | зштп | 06:23 |
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| ZogG | Proteous, i think i talked to you a lot of time ago | 06:33 |
| Proteous | could be | 06:33 |
| ZogG | you said you barely here, we talked about port of some java app | 06:33 |
| ZogG | could it be you? | 06:33 |
| Proteous | probably not me | 06:33 |
| Proteous | I hate java | 06:33 |
| Proteous | :P | 06:33 |
| ZogG | =) | 06:34 |
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| FIQ|n900 | huh... | 09:44 |
| FIQ|n900 | Ok, one time I mis-typed a number with SMS: "07xyyyyyyy" in which x is incorrect and y correct. | 09:45 |
| FIQ|n900 | For some reason, my original conversation with the person opened, and I though the number was correct | 09:45 |
| FIQ|n900 | What the...? | 09:45 |
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| ruskie | erm... | 09:51 |
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| ruskie | maybe it mind read it? | 09:51 |
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| pupnik_ | http://www.techamok.com/?pid=8898 US Circuit Court upholds warrantless siezure (theft) of laptops for travellers entering USA | 09:58 |
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| ruskie | why is that even a surprise? | 10:01 |
| ruskie | generally you're not in any country while traveling across borders(i.e. a bit of no-mans land there)... | 10:01 |
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| pupnik_ | It is a violation of the law | 10:02 |
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| ruskie | what law exactly? there is no law where there is no country to impose it | 10:02 |
| yacc | FIQ|n900, the reason is that Nokias and not only the N900, have been doing a suffix match for phonenumbers since the beginning of time => the reason is that a number xxxxxx can be signaled with different prefixes, e.g. 0, 0CC 00CC, +CC with CC being the country prefix. | 10:02 |
| ruskie | hint hint... no-mans land | 10:02 |
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| yacc | pupnik_, actually not really, while entering/exiting a country customs official have been having a free hand since ever, ... | 10:03 |
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| yacc | pupnik_, not that it does not suck, ... | 10:05 |
| pupnik_ | yacc: that is an illegal, unconstitutional act | 10:05 |
| ruskie | yes human rights should be respected... but generally you have no rights on borders | 10:05 |
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| yacc | pupnik_, it's just the logical conclusion what would happen if you tried to transport a closed safe without the possibility to open it => if the border guards would notice that, they'd keep it for secondary inspection too :( | 10:07 |
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| yacc | pupnik_, it's no wonder that it has been standard business procedure for a couple of years to give a cleanly imaged laptop to business travelers to the US, if travel to the US is unavoidable (nobody sane liked to travel to communistic police states, and nobody likes to travel to a "war on terrorism" police state like the US) | 10:09 |
| pupnik_ | ahh that's good policy | 10:10 |
| yacc | pupnik_, warrentless searches, check (the FBI agent just needs to have imagined that it might be terrorism or national security related) | 10:10 |
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| yacc | pupnik_, warrentless unspecified jail terms being kept without communication, check (see above) | 10:11 |
| ruskie | yacc, or "think of the children" related | 10:11 |
| yacc | pupnik_, warrentless data searches, check (see SWIFT, which is explicitly illegal by EU standards, but is tolerated by EU politician exactly because of that, the US is doing the dirty data searches that they couldn't get their hands on for them, ...) | 10:12 |
| pupnik_ | i didn't know that ty | 10:13 |
| ruskie | actually swift and passangare data sharing has been on the kicking front recently | 10:13 |
| ruskie | I recall some news about it | 10:13 |
| pupnik_ | it's absolutely ridiculous of some people to assert that data-privacy is not a goal of FOSS | 10:14 |
| yacc | ruskie, yeah, if terrorism does not cut it, kiddie porn (hint: no really hard definition for that, you know, the exact definition varies from country to country, e.g. if you are unlucky, a photograph of your wife and your kids playing in the bath tub can get you that sexual predator stamp) is always a good explanation why a common human has no rights ;) | 10:14 |
| pupnik_ | personal decision of what happens with your data and code is at the core of open source philosophy | 10:14 |
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| jacekowski | yacc: i just use truecrypt when crossing borders | 10:15 |
| yacc | ruskie, yeah, since the last round of EU treaties, the EU parliament has to much to say => and these are 732 or so potential trouble makers ;) | 10:15 |
| pupnik_ | Elop needs to be physically banned from finland. | 10:15 |
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| jacekowski | yacc: it takes only 3h to encrypt/decrypt whole disk | 10:16 |
| yacc | jacekowski, than hope that you don't cross into the UK. They'll ask you nice for your encryption key, and if you say no (whatever) lookup you up for 5 years ;) | 10:16 |
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| jacekowski | yacc: as far as i know they can only send you do prison for not giving up encryption keys if you are convicted of another crime at the same time ( related to reason why you were asked to give up your keys ) | 10:17 |
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| yacc | jacekowski, I do not use any hdd without LUKS on it, only exception being vfat formated (usually flash) mass storage device that is used to exchange data. | 10:17 |
| ruskie | yacc, actually the parliament so far has done more proper things | 10:18 |
| yacc | jacekowski, not really, they just need to claim that they saw suspicious images on the device before you shutdown, and if you do not hand over the keys you will be getting sentenced for that, because they cannot sentence you for kiddie porn, or even check if you are guilty. | 10:18 |
| ruskie | if I ever had a need to travel anywhere I'd bring a clean slate system with me and simply grab any data I need over an encrytped channel over the network later | 10:19 |
| yacc | ruskie, only because the lobbying influences have not yet recalibrated for the fact the the parliament does have teeth now, ... | 10:19 |
| yacc | ruskie, congrats, you just figured it out ;) | 10:19 |
| ruskie | yacc, well lobbying so far failed for patent reform... | 10:19 |
| ruskie | yacc, ??? | 10:19 |
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| ruskie | that has always been my plan... clean slate system and grab any data later | 10:20 |
| ruskie | even when it was a bit safer | 10:20 |
| yacc | ruskie, as I said, the EU parliament had for decades only very limited rights. The perfect place to park idealistic politicians that are incapable of being day-to-day pragmatic, ... | 10:20 |
| ruskie | and the EU commision is??? | 10:20 |
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| yacc | Full of pragmatic day-to-day politicians that do not give any thought to human rights, what is right or wrong, they only represent the pragmatic concerns of their governments, ... | 10:21 |
| ruskie | actually they don't | 10:21 |
| ruskie | they represent the pragmatic concerns of their parties | 10:22 |
| ruskie | if they actually represented the pragmatic concerns of their governments I'd be more worried | 10:22 |
| ruskie | not to mention the system would be stagnating to infinity... | 10:23 |
| yacc | The EU parliament => not really, not yet, because of it's decade long impotence, it was a parking place for inconvinient politicians for a long time, nice benefits, no relevance (as in minimal national exposure to press), perfect, ... | 10:23 |
| ruskie | because various governments at the best of times have problems cooperating on the most mundane levels | 10:23 |
| yacc | ruskie, welcome to EU politics, ... | 10:23 |
| ruskie | I guess it depends on the gov | 10:24 |
| ruskie | but around here we generally voted for who goes there and rarely were these people inconvienences on tho national level | 10:24 |
| yacc | ruskie, well yes and no, the EU has been a consensual "government elite" project for decades, ... | 10:24 |
| yacc | ruskie, here is where? | 10:24 |
| ruskie | slovenia | 10:24 |
| ruskie | <-- is on EU sceptic | 10:24 |
| ruskie | erm an | 10:24 |
| yacc | Well, inconviences is the wrong word perhaps, but the fact is that any politician that moves to some EU position becomes near irrelevant nationally, ... | 10:25 |
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| ruskie | considering how relevant the national ones are... | 10:26 |
| ruskie | it doesn't really change much around here | 10:26 |
| ruskie | we have a total crop gov currently...(and didn't do much better before)... | 10:26 |
| yacc | ruskie, no idea if I'm a fan or a sceptic => I'm much like this brit PM during WWII, the EU is a bad thing, but name me a better plan, ... | 10:26 |
| ruskie | transitioning from communism to capitalism... free-for-alls etc... | 10:27 |
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| pupnik_ | yacc: there are competing visions for the EU. One is a freemarket zone, the other is a central planned economy. Both can be called 'European Union' | 10:27 |
| yacc | Fact is that the EU national states are way to tiny on a global scale to be bothered with, ... | 10:27 |
| ruskie | currently we have a capitalists wet dream... no oversight, no sanctions, useless judical system, and bansk willing to give out lots of money for "privatization" | 10:28 |
| ruskie | yacc, I would call you a sceptic... it's a bad thing but there is nothing better(yet)... | 10:29 |
| yacc | Well, actually what you mean is probably more like a fully integrated economy, and that's the one that makes sense, but then I've been by design anti-nationalistic for my whole life, I do not tend to cheer for my national sport teams and having worked and traveled in a couple of places, I tend to see both sides of the coin in many cases. | 10:29 |
| ruskie | I don't much care for national intresets myself | 10:29 |
| yacc | E.g. going to school in France was fascinating, they have quite a different view of history than say Austrians/Germans ;) | 10:29 |
| ruskie | everybody and their dog has a different view on history | 10:30 |
| yacc | ruskie, naturally, but most people do not realize that ;) | 10:30 |
| ruskie | I can ask 5 people around me what they thought about Josip Broz Tito and each will give me a completly different answer... | 10:30 |
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| yacc | ruskie, well, in your case it's a special case, because it's to personal to many people, and most of these people have lived with Tito to with direct consequences of Tito, ... | 10:31 |
| ruskie | I prefer to just consider everything false until I can review it myself and even then will doubt it as an actual truth | 10:31 |
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| ruskie | or the german/italian occupation of slovenia during wwII etc... | 10:32 |
| yacc | Well, I tend to have a non-monotone view of the world, ... | 10:32 |
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| ruskie | same here | 10:33 |
| yacc | ruskie, well, without being a revisionist, you have to realize that the good guys in the WWII e.g. the US, have been nearly as rassistic as the Nazis (e.g. I wouldn't want to be a Nigger in the 30s or 40s in the US, where a white murding a Nigger got a slap on the hand at best, ...) | 10:34 |
| ruskie | agreed | 10:34 |
| yacc | And one big concept that I live with is look at what they do and not what they talk => it's very hard to identify the good guys nowadays is you hide their names. E.g. the US (but also other western governments) are very hard to identify as the good guys if you try to analyze them by what they do, and declare Axioms like "they are good because they are the US/UK/France/Germany/EU/Nato" invalid, ... | 10:36 |
| ruskie | to true... | 10:37 |
| yacc | Anyway, I'll try to get myself identified as the clean guy, so bbl, the shower is calling me ;) | 10:38 |
| pupnik_ | cheers | 10:38 |
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| ruskie | the: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter always comes to mind | 10:38 |
| jo-erlend | help! I accidentally pressed lock phone instead of the keyboard and screen lock. And I don't remember the password. I have root ssh access. How do I fix this? | 10:39 |
| ruskie | you don't remember it? and it isn't toe default? | 10:39 |
| ruskie | erm the | 10:39 |
| jo-erlend | perhaps there is a default password? | 10:39 |
| ruskie | 12345 | 10:39 |
| ruskie | should be the default if you never set it | 10:39 |
| ruskie | else see talk.maemo.org | 10:39 |
| ruskie | there's a thread on how to reset it | 10:39 |
| ruskie | iirc lock code reset or something like that should find the thread | 10:40 |
| jo-erlend | ah I remembered it once I knew it was five numbers long. Thanks :) | 10:40 |
| ruskie | yw | 10:40 |
| jo-erlend | cause it can't be longer or shorter than that? | 10:40 |
| ruskie | not sure | 10:40 |
| ruskie | I would assume it could be shorter | 10:41 |
| ruskie | or longer... but not sure | 10:41 |
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| neal | ICD2 sends a "scan_sig" message when network scan data is available. What are all the possible values of NETWORK_TYPE parameter. I know that it can take the values WLAN_INFRA, WLAN_ADHOC and GPRS. Are there any others? | 11:04 |
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| yacc | Reading the lock code reset thread one gets the impression that quite a bit of N900 buyers are not exactly old linux hackers, ... | 11:15 |
| ruskie | why? | 11:15 |
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| yacc | And that these duffus would greatly benefit from somebody setting a simple CGI script somewhere that runs jack the ripper for the lock code, ... | 11:16 |
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| MohammadAG | importing files in QML is meh | 11:18 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, do extra components have to be in a folder? | 11:25 |
| MohammadAG | using import "Slider.qml" throws an error, but Slider.qml exists | 11:25 |
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| crashanddie | you have to love the display of self destruct that Nokia has been demonstrating | 11:36 |
| ruskie | you mean it wasn't doing so since a long time ago? | 11:37 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: you don't have to import. Just use Slider {} and it loads the .qml file automagically. | 11:43 |
| alterego | importing is for .js files and modules. | 11:43 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, oh, thanks | 11:50 |
| jo-erlend | crashanddie: I don't love it at all. It's like a train wreck. You can't look away, but if you consider all the passengers and their lives, it's really quite sad. | 11:53 |
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| crashanddie | I think it's endlessly entertaining | 11:54 |
| jo-erlend | and that's what we call schadenfreude. | 11:55 |
| crashanddie | indeed | 11:55 |
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| pupnik | < yacc> Reading the lock code reset thread one gets the impression that quite a <<< this is a sign of success of N900 / maemo5 | 11:58 |
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| pupnik | it's precisely the success of the talented folks at nokia to make a 'phone based on linux' that appeals to people who don't primarily buy it as a linux device | 11:59 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, shouldn't an anchor lock an item in place? | 12:15 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: depends if the item it's anchored to is locked. | 12:16 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, http://i55.tinypic.com/jts8jm.jpg | 12:17 |
| MohammadAG | duration text should be anchored to the end of the slider, but it seems to be way off | 12:17 |
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| alterego | Can I see the Qml for that. | 12:19 |
| alterego | Oh wait, you're using the editor. | 12:19 |
| alterego | Interesting | 12:19 |
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| MohammadAG | actually using the raw editor for the most part, just checking anchors with the GUI one | 12:20 |
| alterego | Well, let me see the qml then :) | 12:21 |
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| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/gYmxkx9W | 12:21 |
| MohammadAG | Slider.qml would be http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-mobility-snapshot/declarative-location-flickr-flickrcommon-slider-qml.html :P | 12:22 |
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| alterego | Well, that's easy | 12:26 |
| alterego | You need to change the anchors in songPositionText | 12:26 |
| alterego | anchors.right: slider.right | 12:26 |
| alterego | and remove anchors.rightMargin | 12:27 |
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| MohammadAG | heh, the designer's crap | 12:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~moo | 12:32 |
| * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass | 12:32 | |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: I never use it, but it does have indicators for the anchor points which maybe you should pay better attention too :P | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, actually, I did, those are what set it to left :P | 12:33 |
| alterego | (close your ears DocScrutinizer) | 12:34 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: submit a bug report? :D | 12:34 |
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| MohammadAG | LOL | 12:37 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, can't, I'm using some ancient old version | 12:37 |
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| MohammadAG | so it might've been fixed, but since packaging is back in Qt Creator, I stopped updating :P | 12:37 |
| alterego | It's okay, I wasn't serious :P | 12:37 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, there's no way to use QSlider in QML right? | 12:38 |
| alterego | Well, there is | 12:38 |
| alterego | But it's not great. | 12:38 |
| alterego | Binding QWidgets into Qml is fiddly :P | 12:38 |
| MohammadAG | neither is the slider I'm currently using | 12:39 |
| MohammadAG | I need to change the range a lot | 12:39 |
| alterego | Make it better? | 12:39 |
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| thomastp | is there a way to see what's currently building in the fremantle build queue ? | 12:40 |
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| pupnik | "In Germany, under the law, everything is prohibited,e xcept that which is permitted." -- Newton Minow | 13:42 |
| ZogG | pup`ping | 13:42 |
| ZogG | pupnik, ping* | 13:43 |
| ZogG | pupnik, http://www.8bitpeoples.com/discography/ | 13:43 |
| ZogG | i remember you loved pornophonique | 13:43 |
| ruskie | pupnik, I thought that was more or less all european juristdictions... with the exception of the UK(where it is the reverse) | 13:44 |
| pupnik | pretty crazy | 13:45 |
| thomastp | is there a way to see what's currently building in the fremantle build queue ? | 13:45 |
| ruskie | pupnik, the EU law also works the same | 13:45 |
| ZogG | all laws work the same | 13:46 |
| ZogG | even in soviet russia | 13:46 |
| ZogG | as we say "the unknowing of law doesn't release guilty from punishment" | 13:47 |
| ruskie | ZogG, wrong | 13:47 |
| ZogG | otherwise i can kill and than prove i did know i can't | 13:48 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, is it possible to emit a signal from QML with a parameter? | 13:48 |
| ZogG | ruskie say who? | 13:48 |
| MohammadAG | basically, I want to emit valueChanged(int)'s equivalent | 13:48 |
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| MohammadAG | so I could tie it to C++ code | 13:48 |
| ruskie | there are 2 general approaches to lawmaking... one is everything is permited EXCEPT the stuff that is forbidden(UK and USA have this approach) and the other is everything is forbidden EXCEPT stuff that is permited(most of the EU has this)... | 13:49 |
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| ruskie | the end result is the same generally | 13:49 |
| pupnik | :) | 13:49 |
| pupnik | don't piss off pppl with power | 13:49 |
| ruskie | also how the law is interpreted in court also plays a role | 13:50 |
| ruskie | you have common law jurisdictions(UK, USA) and Civil law(most of the world) | 13:50 |
| ruskie | Civil law - a court will reinterpret the law each time for each case with minimal reliance on previous cases and interpretations | 13:51 |
| ruskie | so two people accused of the same thing can get widely different results | 13:51 |
| LjL | do you have some hint about an N810 that's decided to reboot-loop forever? its internal disk was quite possibly full, and also, a few non-standard things were installed. is reflashing my only option? | 13:51 |
| ruskie | Common law - a court will take into account previous rullings and only rarely reinterpret(the specifics of the case should be different to do so generally) | 13:52 |
| ruskie | no I'm not a lawyer/paralegal or anything like that... but I did research this stuff a lot a while ago as I find it interesting... | 13:53 |
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| ruskie | of course those are just the top most overlays... it gets subdivided with common influences... | 13:54 |
| ruskie | anyway OT... so enough on this topic | 13:55 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: yes, :) | 13:55 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, any pointers? :) | 13:56 |
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| MohammadAG | all I could find is connecting a signal with no parameters to Qt/C++ | 13:57 |
| ZogG | ruskie, the origin is actually "не знание закона, не освобождает ответствености" | 13:58 |
| ruskie | ZogG, refering to that quote you mean? | 13:59 |
| ruskie | I'm not arguing that really | 13:59 |
| ZogG | i mean original quote and not my translation | 13:59 |
| ZogG | ruskie =* | 14:00 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: have you got: signal mySignal(int) in your qml? | 14:00 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, oh, so it can hold ints? | 14:00 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: then when you emit the signal do: comp.mySignal(10) | 14:00 |
| alterego | or whatever | 14:00 |
| MohammadAG | file:///home/mohammad/mediaplayer/entertainmentview.qml:12:34: Expected token `identifier' | 14:01 |
| MohammadAG | signal sliderValueChanged(int); | 14:01 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: sorry: signal mySignal(int paramName) | 14:04 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, cool, thanks :D | 14:09 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: you have to specify a name so you can do: onMySignal: something.text = value | 14:09 |
| alterego | where value is the named param | 14:10 |
| alterego | Saves you using function binding. | 14:10 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, already got it, I'll have to check if the slider's down and not emit the signal then though | 14:10 |
| MohammadAG | I'm assuming MouseArea can handle that... | 14:11 |
| alterego | Anyhow, I'll bbl | 14:11 |
| alterego | Yeah should do | 14:11 |
| alterego | bbl | 14:11 |
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| lardman | Anyone spotted that the French operation in Libya is called Harmattan? | 14:37 |
| alterego | Heh | 14:37 |
| lardman | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12831743 | 14:38 |
| MohammadAG | lardman, that's not a coincidence | 14:39 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 14:39 |
| lardman | well no, it's fitting | 14:39 |
| alterego | Does that mean they're all using N950s? | 14:41 |
| lardman | :) | 14:41 |
| alterego | Yay, bus is here | 14:42 |
| lardman | oh dear: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13012108 | 14:42 |
| lardman | attack by loofah, escape! | 14:42 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, if I have a MouseArea over the slider then all input to it is blocked | 15:08 |
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| pupnik | wheee my inventory looks decent now | 15:13 |
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| mece | wow! Now that is a nice rendering: http://raph.com/3dartists/artgallery/6764.jpg :D | 15:24 |
| ruskie | hmm that magazine is of slovenian origins | 15:26 |
| mece | :) | 15:26 |
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| mece | cannonfodder was great, but incredibly frustrating at times. | 15:26 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: yeah, probably :) | 15:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: those concepts always work on same principle. The first/most-upper object gets the event, looks at it and processes/ignores it, then exits by passing back either the 'cooked' even or a flag if the event got 'swallowed'. If this flag is not set, the outer control structure shall pass on event to next layer in handler stack | 15:38 |
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| Venemo | timeless_w7ip, could you please gimme the bug to that bugreport that you've shown us yesterday? about the example that deletes an object before using it. | 16:00 |
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| Venemo | timeless_w7ip, sorry. I meant, could you pleas gimme the link* | 16:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | https://bugs.meego.com/attachment.cgi?id=5243 | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | you'd also find that in http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-04-07.log.html | 16:09 |
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| GAN900 | "I know today is a deadline, but I wont be receiving any calls or texts. I should probably tell you, but I wouldn't want to be a bother." -My N900 | 16:12 |
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| Venemo | GAN900, :( | 16:15 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, thx | 16:15 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, what's the bugzilla excercise to get into the bug itself? | 16:15 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, nevermind, I check the logs | 16:16 |
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| stef_204 | hi, using N900 with Maemo 5, v 20.2010.36-2. Just wondering if anyone know is there is a way to reconfigure email client to use smaller fonts by default when composing | 16:17 |
| stef_204 | seems that once you config email client on 1st time u use it, can't reconfig the default. Or is it me? | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: append &action=edit | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: to url | 16:18 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, found it! but thanks :) | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 16:18 |
| stef_204 | Also, it insists on downloading all attachments regardless of whether one selects the email, etc. Is that configurable as well? | 16:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | stef_204: modest (the mail client) is rather useless. So if in doubt about a feature, the answer usually is "not supported" | 16:20 |
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| stef_204 | DocScrutinizer: I agree. I can't find another good email client to install that will really work | 16:21 |
| stef_204 | I tried Claws but can't really see the entire interface, and one o 2 others but same: they are from the dev mirror (if I recall) and do not seem to be ready for "mainstream" use | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | nobody bothered to create a finger friendly MUA that has all the functions you'd like to see | 16:22 |
| stef_204 | any suggestions for a good alternative email client (IMAO)? | 16:22 |
| stef_204 | *(IMAP) | 16:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sorry, no idea. I never felt like doing real email shoveling on N900 | 16:23 |
| stef_204 | I use it when I am on marketing or business trips | 16:23 |
| stef_204 | really important to me | 16:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | possibly a web client is the best option | 16:23 |
| stef_204 | I'll continue trial and error I guess | 16:23 |
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| stef_204 | DocScrutinizer: Webmail is a PITA on the n900, if u ask me... :) | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | never tried it | 16:24 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, thanks for finding this for me. It gave the Fedora QA folks a nice laugh :D | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | I just know I go "MEH" and close modest when I see 27 unread spam mails in the list and don't see any option "mark all as read" | 16:25 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, "mark all as read" is something I've been missing too | 16:27 |
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| stef_204 | that and other bandwidth hogs like huge PDF attachments, etc., that get downloaded automatically using up my bandwidth allocation on my cell plan | 16:29 |
| stef_204 | Modest is a good start; it works but just missing features IMHO | 16:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yep, a lot of missing features | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus a few bugs | 16:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | e.g the missing option to NOT display the HTML part of multipart/mixed msgs is clearly a bug | 16:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dunno if the bug of embedded attachements in multipart/mixed not showing is already fixed. Guess not | 16:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd need to ask my friend to send me a test msgs from his iPhone to check. YUCK | 16:36 |
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| * DocScrutinizer takes the opportunity to rant about apple: some time ago I've seen "XML" there, like <config><key>key1</key><value>value1</value><key>key2</key><value>value2</value></config> - what a fsckdup idea of XML is *that*?! | 16:41 | |
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| jaska | yes, crapple property list in xml format.. abomination | 16:44 |
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| inz | Doc, that looks almost like some things from thedailywtf, although they've had much worse snippets too | 16:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | damn, how hard is it to get the idea of a strucured dataset? | 16:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | <config><key><name>key1</name><value>value1</value></key><key><name>key2</name><value>value2</value></key></config> | 16:50 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, that's ridiculous xml... the second version is quite sane though. | 16:52 |
| Venemo | and oh DocScrutinizer, did you know that Gnome has listened to your opinion and dumped GConf? | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | the second version is a 5sec take I made up in a try to fix the first crappy version invented by apple | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, I know. They got something even worse now I gathered | 16:54 |
| Venemo | nope | 16:54 |
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| Venemo | they got something that actually performs well, called DConf | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | D like Distributed? that sounds nice | 16:54 |
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| Venemo | dunno what it stands for | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | each app responsible for their own config, and offering dbus interface so other apps can get to know about changes or change settings. Sounds semi-sane | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if that's the concept | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's how I'd design such a thing | 16:55 |
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| Venemo | however, they haven't managed to port all their stuff away from GConf, so I now end up having both... | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least my concept would allow to actually backup/move/copy an app *with complete settings* which could live in a config file in the app's working directory, as usual | 16:59 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, so there's a new g spell, called 'gsettings' now :P | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | an app could work even if there's no dbus at all on system, compare that to a system missing gconfd | 17:00 |
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| E0x | spell.. that remember my days of sourcemage ( linux distro ) | 17:00 |
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| Venemo | yea | 17:00 |
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| BigWookie | :X i've got a very stupid question | 17:01 |
| BigWookie | anyone can get me a bin of tar? | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | shoot | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 17:01 |
| BigWookie | it seems i accidentially removed busybox | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 17:01 |
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| BigWookie | and dpkg relys on tar | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm | 17:02 |
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| Venemo | BigWookie, apt-get install --reinstall busybox? | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | how would you install that binary on N900? | 17:03 |
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| BigWookie | wget -O /bin | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | BigWookie: without messybox you can't boot, can't mv or cp or chmod or any other cmd | 17:04 |
| BigWookie | and apt-get won't work anymore | 17:04 |
| BigWookie | DocScrutinizer: it is running right now | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | yay | 17:04 |
| BigWookie | best would be the whole /bin dir | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | unerase busybox? | 17:05 |
| BigWookie | not possible | 17:06 |
| BigWookie | as I said dpkg won't work | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | mc | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | afaik it has a rudimentary unerase function | 17:06 |
| BigWookie | mc is not installed | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-S | 17:06 |
| BigWookie | if sbd could upload me his /bin dir i could unpack it on my desktop and scp it to /bin | 17:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, you shall get a tar binary | 17:07 |
| E0x | http://asui.garage.maemo.org/_screenshots/keypad_2-landscape.png <-- advanced-systemui change the lock screen ? | 17:07 |
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| merlin1991 | X-Fade: ping | 17:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | BigWookie: you got a /query ! | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 17:14 |
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| LjL | do you have some hint about an N810 that's decided to reboot-loop forever? its internal disk was quite possibly full, and also, a few non-standard things were installed. is reflashing my only option? | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I can't see a better option | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | you *could* try to get a shell in initrd, and then clean the / on NAND | 17:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dunno how to accomplish that though | 17:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | o/ bbl | 17:23 |
| LjL | perhaps there is a way to go into R&D mode without flashing? i have a feeling it's the watchdog that's killing the system, and i've read R&D disables that | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can set R6D without actually flashing. flasher has an option for that | 17:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ./flasher-3.5 --set-rd no-omap-wd no-ext-wd no-lifeguard-reset --enable-rd-mode | 17:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the no-lifeguard-reset probably the most promising, aiui it will keep dsme from rebooting device on any of the monitored processes quitting ungracefully | 17:36 |
| BigWookie | /wc/wc | 17:36 |
| BigWookie | sry, and by xD | 17:36 |
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| * DocScrutinizer recalls "houston, we got a problem" after 50 reboots :-P | 17:37 | |
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| Psi | while i like that there is someone out there working on espeak, having new versions put out every few days is getting a bit rediculous | 17:56 |
| alterego | Just implemented waypoint projection | 17:56 |
| alterego | Fast and nasty method (tm) | 17:56 |
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| rm_work | Psi: gotta love fast development! learn to enjoy getting features/bugfixes every couple of days :P | 18:57 |
| rm_work | when I was working actively on ABL, I was pushing a new version every day or two as well | 18:57 |
| rm_work | ah, those were the days... | 18:57 |
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| dashavoo | This is a bit of a premature question, as being as my phone is still broken, but anyone know of a way I can make it so that when I am sent a message from one number, pressing reply fills in another? | 19:19 |
| dashavoo | bah, my mind isn't picturing things properly (this happens when your N900 is broken for weeks) | 19:20 |
| dashavoo | basically, I don't want to have to switch conversations to reply to a different number | 19:21 |
| slonopotamus | that doesn't make sense | 19:22 |
| slonopotamus | you reply to sender | 19:22 |
| dashavoo | slonopotamus: my friend has two numbers. She texts me from her German number, because it is cheaper, and I reply to her UK number, because it is cheaper | 19:23 |
| dashavoo | but I often forget to switch conversations, and end up paying a stupid amount of money for an sms | 19:23 |
| slonopotamus | crazy world | 19:25 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus how is gentoo on n800? | 19:25 |
| * slonopotamus uses unlimited 3g for both him and his wife and texts via jabber with fixed monthly payment :P | 19:26 | |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders if two numbers under one contact result in one conversation thread or two | 19:26 | |
| dashavoo | DocScrutinizer: two | 19:26 |
| slonopotamus | dashavoo: i doubt you can do that, kinda exotic usecase | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-S | 19:26 |
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| dashavoo | slonopotamus: thought so... I might write a script to intercept the message and change the number or something... when my phone comes back | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, that's definitely a long blamed flaw in maemo contacts management that you don't know about which number it's been of those 3 that are stored to that particular contact | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually the usecase you get called from mobile number of your friend but you want to call back on his homezone number isn't that unusual at all | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | as it is now, you have to call back to see which number it's actually been that he used to call you | 19:29 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: works for my needs, though with kinda slow graphics rendering. planning to try modern kernel this weekend. also, kde-4.6 should go stable soon, it has some new shiny tablet ui | 19:29 |
| dashavoo | DocScrutinizer: it is pretty silly | 19:30 |
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| dashavoo | and frustrating :P | 19:30 |
| dashavoo | anyway, home time :) | 19:30 |
| dashavoo | BBQ this evening. Such lovely weather :) | 19:30 |
| dashavoo | have a good weekend everyone | 19:30 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus kde? srsly? maybe you should try unity or something? | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's been a ticket for that and everybody hoped thy'd fix it in PR1.2 | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | now we got PR1.3 and it's still broken | 19:32 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: gtk apps have big troubles fitting into 480px-high screen | 19:32 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus and kde? | 19:32 |
| slonopotamus | i only found a couple of systemsettings tabs that didn't fit. | 19:33 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus and if you just use hildon ? and go with maemo original src of packages for ebuilds? | 19:33 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: hildon learned to work with unpatched gtk? | 19:33 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: haven't looked that way, actually | 19:34 |
| ZogG | you can use same paatches, why not? | 19:34 |
| slonopotamus | though i heard someone was writing ebuilds for hildon gui | 19:34 |
| ZogG | or you can use qildon or any hildon forks you can find | 19:34 |
| ZogG | though qildon is not finished as i know | 19:34 |
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| ZogG | nice | 19:35 |
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| * slonopotamus wonders why ubuntu samba segfaults here and there (running visual studio on samba share) but gentoo doesn't. | 19:36 | |
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| slonopotamus | ZogG: wrt unity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/UnityHardwareRequirements | 19:38 |
| slonopotamus | 1gb ram? are they kidding? | 19:38 |
| ZogG | http://gitorious.org/qildon | 19:39 |
| slonopotamus | also, according to that page, it has a strong dependency on opengl | 19:39 |
| slonopotamus | also, according to that page, arm is not supported | 19:41 |
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| ZogG | slonopotamus qildon? it was written for n900 i assume | 19:44 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus can you give me some screenies for gentoo-ru chan please =) | 19:44 |
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| slonopotamus | ZogG: later, no wifi here so can't upload from n800 | 19:45 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: they'll just show kde running at 800x480 :) | 19:46 |
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| ZogG | slonopotamus any drivers that don't work properly? | 19:47 |
| ZogG | as i saw sound problem is solved | 19:48 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: i haven't tried camera. wifi, bluetooth, sound - everything works | 19:48 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus camera you can try with player just check if you have video0 device or something | 19:49 |
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| slonopotamus | funnily, qt raster is faster than xrender on n800 | 19:54 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: yes, i have /dev/video0 | 19:56 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus than mplayer /dev/video0 | 19:57 |
| ZogG | mplayer -fps 15 tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0 | 19:57 |
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| ZogG | though i don't know if you have v4l2 in kernel | 19:57 |
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| slonopotamus | ZogG: meh, no mplayer :) later. but i see no reasons why it shouldn't work | 19:59 |
| ArkanoiD- | scud batteries appear to be exactly that good. | 19:59 |
| ZogG | slonopotamus btw how is compiling thing? does it takes hours and is it slow? | 19:59 |
| slonopotamus | ZogG: i compile in qemu-user chroot on shiny new phenom x6 :) | 20:00 |
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| slonopotamus | ZogG: on device itself - somewhat slow, yes. gcc builds in 12h | 20:01 |
| ZogG | дщд | 20:01 |
| ZogG | lol | 20:01 |
| ZogG | so you build into packages? | 20:02 |
| slonopotamus | yep, build binpkgs in chroot and then install them on device | 20:02 |
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| mookie | hi folks, is something bad going to happen if I change the partition label of eMMC from Nokia N900 to n900? | 20:15 |
| jacekowski | no | 20:16 |
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| ZogG | mookie eveyone goona di | 20:22 |
| ZogG | die* | 20:22 |
| mookie | ZogG: i thought so | 20:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: дщд تربية الإبل | 20:25 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer what? | 20:25 |
| ZogG | дщд = lol | 20:25 |
| ZogG | other i don't get | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | you don't want to know ;-P | 20:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: you're sick? no fighting, no "Doc, the evil German, wants to kill me"... | 20:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ZogG: I'm worried | 20:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~attack ZogG | 20:43 |
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| slonopotamus | :D | 20:44 |
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| pupnik | new client pulls 470 mA when running without sdl_delay() :D | 21:09 |
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| mookie | will, (parted) name 1 "n900" change partition label, or i should use mklabel msdos and if yes is data going to be usable? becouse of this http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_toc.html#TOC16 | 21:10 |
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| inkbottle | I've been doing "ssh -X" on my n900; then I've launched mplayer from command line (on the distant pc); works fine but for one thing: I have no sound (just like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=19063) | 22:10 |
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| inkbottle | from http://wiki.maemo.org/Remote_desktop, evrything should work seamlessly. So I don't see what i'm doing wrong | 22:12 |
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| ShadowJK | you don't get sound piped to n900 with just -X | 22:19 |
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| pupnik | hee | 22:20 |
| pupnik | how much cpu does screen recorder use? | 22:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Quite a lot, if I recall right. | 22:21 |
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| inkbottle | ShadowJK: really, what should I do to get sound? | 22:22 |
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| inkbottle | ShadowJK: I'm reading about it, I was sure it should have worked :-) | 22:24 |
| mer_ge | I don't get a keyboard on graphical stuff when I do "ssh -X" from my N900. | 22:25 |
| mer_ge | I seem to have problems with locales | 22:25 |
| mer_ge | Does anyone have something to read about that? | 22:25 |
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| inkbottle | ShadowJK: thanks for your help, I'll try and see later how i can have sound too | 22:34 |
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| mer_ge | in fact I get a keyboard in gedit for example because it falls back to a default locale. | 22:35 |
| mer_ge | But when I start nx-client from nomachine on the remote machine, I get: "Qt: Locales not supported on X server" | 22:35 |
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| pupnik | anybody doing oprofile stuff on n900 | 22:39 |
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| alterego | I added debug traces to every function call in Columbus today. | 22:55 |
| alterego | And it's actually really good I did :D | 22:56 |
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| LuisCarlos | Hi everybody. I own a n900. One I changed a timer to avoid HAM to check for updates, however, I can not find that tutorial. | 22:57 |
| pupnik | bier her! bier her! oder ich fall um jocheh! | 22:57 |
| LuisCarlos | When I'm in 2.5G, it gets too slow, because HAM is looking for updates. | 22:58 |
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| tank-man | a good laugh -> http://blog.jitbit.com/2011/04/chinese-magic-drive.html | 23:24 |
| tank-man | a 500GB external usb drive that is really a usb stick | 23:24 |
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| kerio | phap: you're alive | 23:33 |
| kerio | probably | 23:33 |
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