| DocScrutinizer | yup, confirmed on my bare PCB | 00:00 |
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| RST38h | Speed: Not starting any services | 00:01 |
| RST38h | Speed: No networking, no udevd, etc | 00:01 |
| RST38h | I am afraid this isn't as much of an accomplishment... | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: GND is next to speaker, VDD is next to kbd | 00:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | RST38h: True, of coure. | 00:09 |
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| * SpeedEvil is still undecided about udevd. | 00:09 | |
| pupnik | who here has experience with sdl + opengl on the sgx? | 00:09 |
| RST38h | for embedded stuff, you may not even need udevd. | 00:10 |
| SpeedEvil | For some embedded stuff in principle you just need a kernel. 2.2 could even run that way. | 00:10 |
| SpeedEvil | (it would carry on routing packets after init died) | 00:11 |
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| jacekowski | ~flashung | 00:15 |
| jacekowski | ~flashing | 00:15 |
| infobot | it has been said that flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:15 |
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| jacekowski | yah | 00:19 |
| jacekowski | yay | 00:19 |
| jacekowski | it's working | 00:19 |
| jacekowski | almost | 00:19 |
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| jacekowski | when i plug it in just a bit it works | 00:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: check contact springs. Sounds like bent or dirty | 00:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: >>adiation is used by the United States Postal Service to sterilize mail in the Washington, DC area. Some foods (e.g. spices, ground meats) are irradiated for sterilization (see food irradiation).<< | 00:27 |
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| RST38h | It is everywherrrre! | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | fix your R | 00:27 |
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| jacekowski | hmmmm | 00:27 |
| jacekowski | where was that thing to check if vusb is present | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | find /sys -name vbus ? | 00:28 |
| jacekowski | nothing | 00:28 |
| * RST38h found another huge reason to hate Steve Jobs: island keyboards. | 00:28 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/vbus | 00:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oops, not that one | 00:30 |
| jacekowski | can you check if it changes on yours when you plug something in | 00:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0048/twl4030_usb/vbus | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1, 0 | 00:32 |
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| jacekowski | hmm | 00:33 |
| jacekowski | it is vusb disappearing | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: check contact springs. Sounds like bent or dirty | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | eithe pin1 or pin5 | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | either in receptacle or in plug | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | plug has springs, receptacle has flat contact areas | 00:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:USB-Stecker_Nokia_5130.jpg&filetimestamp=20100506223249 | 00:38 |
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| jacekowski | it's phone side that has a problem | 00:39 |
| jacekowski | not a cable | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | then it must be dirt on the flat contact areas | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | or actually a loose solder joint | 00:40 |
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| jacekowski | fuck yeah | 00:50 |
| jacekowski | it's working | 00:50 |
| RST38h | the usb? | 00:50 |
| jacekowski | yes | 00:51 |
| RST38h | coool | 00:51 |
| romaxa_home | MohammadAG:microb sources https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/ client server https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/client-server/trunk/ | 00:52 |
| jacekowski | when did that happen | 00:53 |
| RST38h | romaxa:OMG, you have finally published the browser client sources??? | 00:54 |
| jacekowski | it looks like it | 00:56 |
| mikhas | wow | 00:56 |
| mikhas | why not 1 year earlier ... | 00:56 |
| jacekowski | nobody cares now | 00:56 |
| RST38h | romaxa: Just tell where the goddamn reflow option is in the code | 00:56 |
| mikhas | harhar | 00:56 |
| jacekowski | opera is released | 00:56 |
| RST38h | So that we can finally enable it | 00:57 |
| jacekowski | opera ftw | 00:57 |
| RST38h | opera sucks battery pretty badly | 00:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | <yawn> what's up? | 00:58 |
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| jacekowski | i really wish fluke would open source software for my meter | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | who's using FLUKE doesn't mess with source code | 00:59 |
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| jacekowski | it has full ARM inside | 00:59 |
| jacekowski | and lots of fluke asics | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | you also don't tune your Ferrari | 01:00 |
| jacekowski | you do | 01:00 |
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| jacekowski | and i don't have a ferrari | 01:00 |
| RST38h | Neither of you has a Ferrari | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | bah, I have 17 | 01:01 |
| RST38h | Doc: 1:43? =) | 01:01 |
| jacekowski | matchbox models don't count | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, I think it's a Ferarri Sunglasses | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | (sic!) | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.ferrari-electronic.de/ | 01:05 |
| dangergrrl | oh btw i found the reason for the whole cascade of 'disconnect or change internet connection' requests | 01:05 |
| dangergrrl | and it is a bug | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | in? | 01:06 |
| dangergrrl | if you have an xmpp chat channel open in conversations it somehow thinks it detects your net connection dropping when it didn't | 01:06 |
| dangergrrl | and it queues a connect to internet request | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | it? | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | Cousin It? | 01:06 |
| dangergrrl | i haven't looked at the code but something is not consolidating multiple such requests into a single request | 01:07 |
| * DocScrutinizer whistles "...the Addams Family" | 01:07 | |
| dangergrrl | i'm presuming it's an event queued via dbus | 01:07 |
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| dangergrrl | empathy/telepathy queues a request to connect to the internet | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds sensible | 01:08 |
| dangergrrl | i would have to look at the code to have a clue how to fix it | 01:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | try a "dbus-monitor >>log.txt && dbus-monitor -s >>log.txt" | 01:10 |
| dangergrrl | i'm thinking that whatever prog reads those events should check if it has two such requests and drop the first and iterate before popping up the dialog | 01:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm, it should simply drop further requests if dialog is open | 01:11 |
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| dangergrrl | it is /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs* | 01:11 |
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| dangergrrl | if you kill that process while it's doing that it stops | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh yeah, that bugger | 01:11 |
| RST38h | how familiar, indeed | 01:11 |
| dangergrrl | hey, i found a bug i can actually fix | 01:12 |
| dangergrrl | i'm on a roll | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can't | 01:12 |
| dangergrrl | i haven't done code for a living in 11 years | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | AFAIK that shit is closed | 01:12 |
| dangergrrl | that's a closed component? | 01:12 |
| dangergrrl | bastards | 01:12 |
| dangergrrl | i could but it would be a pain | 01:13 |
| RST38h | looks like MicroB just got open | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | RST38h: what where | 01:13 |
| RST38h | lots of things to improve there, starting with enabling the text reflow | 01:13 |
| dangergrrl | i bet it could be done by intercepting a .so even if it's a closed component | 01:13 |
| RST38h | tps://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/ client server | 01:14 |
| RST38h | https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/client-server/trunk/ | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm not excited about microB. I'd not even be surprised it'd be open since long. It's browser-ui that's interesting | 01:14 |
| RST38h | Doc: isn't the client part the browser-ui? | 01:14 |
| dangergrrl | i really like fennec's features but it so eats my machine | 01:14 |
| RST38h | fennec is a pig | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | :shrug: | 01:15 |
| RST38h | ttg | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | time to google? | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ttg | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~wtf ttg | 01:15 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what ttg means... | 01:15 |
| dangergrrl | actually i need to watch some video so i can delete it and clear up disk space | 01:16 |
| dangergrrl | time to go? | 01:16 |
| dangergrrl | the tempest gains? | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't tell me about video :-S Watched a livestream this evening, and it ate mediaplayer | 01:16 |
| dangergrrl | oh, i have like 6gb of stuff on my pc that miro has downloaded | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | had to reboot the shit | 01:17 |
| dangergrrl | richard dawkins i just watched talking about his latest book | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | until that completed, the report was over | 01:17 |
| dangergrrl | presinting the overwhelming evidence for evolution which he says is motivated by 40% of people in the usa believing the earth is 10k years old and that no evolution happened | 01:18 |
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| dangergrrl | i think he is nieve, for many of that group it is a religious belief and not subject to refutation by fact | 01:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer checks if meanwhile the program is available in mediathek | 01:19 | |
| nox- | http://zdfmediathk.sourceforge.net/ btw | 01:19 |
| nox- | (no idea if that runs on the phone tho... :) | 01:19 |
| nox- | its java | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | 3sat.de/nano | 01:20 |
| nox- | ah they streamed that today? | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | they do every night | 01:20 |
| nox- | heh never noticed... | 01:20 |
| nox- | what was the bit you missed about? | 01:21 |
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| iluminator101 | what an app for n900 that records a live phone call? | 01:25 |
| SpeedEvil | I vaguely recall 'recaller' can do this. | 01:26 |
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| chem|st | iluminator101: it also eats up your mem by time (was a python widget last time I checked) | 01:31 |
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| iluminator101 | hmm... | 01:32 |
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| chem|st | iluminator101: python-plugin-loader or something will end up freeing you from ram (eating it) | 01:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nox-: mediaplayer froze on "loading cache buffer" the very moment they started talking about geocaching with smartphones | 01:41 |
| nox- | ew | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :fP | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :-P | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | guess it's been coincidence, as the mediathek playback worked ok | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | strange bit is I've seen exactly same behaviour before, like in January or sth | 01:43 |
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| nox- | what was the bit you missed in jan? | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | no idea | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | but it failed in exactly same situation, with same symptoms | 01:53 |
| dangergrrl | http://www.vuzix.com/consumer/products_taceye_lt.html | 01:54 |
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| dangergrrl | did you see that one earlier? no price listed | 01:54 |
| nox- | same situation == steaming 3sat, or == 3sat talking about geocaching? :) | 01:54 |
| dangergrrl | only partially covers one eye | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | dunno | 01:55 |
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| RST38h | dangergrrl: It absolutely must come with a red super LED | 02:00 |
| RST38h | Borg-like | 02:01 |
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| pupnik | fps fps fps fps | 02:03 |
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| RST38h | When you get above 60, remember, it is fooling you =) | 02:03 |
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| pupnik | RST38h: yap | 02:09 |
| pupnik | RST38h: are you interested in a hq2x scaler proggie? :) | 02:09 |
| RST38h | pupnik: I have it =) | 02:09 |
| pupnik | i think i'm close to getting a working output | 02:09 |
| pupnik | i need a commandline prog to scale .pngs to 2x | 02:10 |
| pupnik | so i can convert all the bitmaps in this game | 02:10 |
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| RST38h | pngscale? | 02:11 |
| pupnik | well, using the hq2x scaler, and preserving transparency | 02:11 |
| RST38h | you will have to write your own | 02:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dangergrrl: interesting products there | 03:30 |
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| dangergrrl | i bet the one i linked is expensive; it's "call for price" | 04:16 |
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| pupnik | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=977489&postcount=2 zip attachment, hq2x scaler | 05:42 |
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| pupnik | Segmentation fault | 05:54 |
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| Termana | good morning | 06:21 |
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| pupnik | FPS: Best (6), Worst (2) | 06:40 |
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| Cleetus | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2220213673_2975919621.jpg my picture | 07:04 |
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| chx | Cleetus: lol | 07:30 |
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| thorleif | test | 07:35 |
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| internetishard | how could I find out how much power the SIP client is taking up? I had to change the keep alive time to 30s to keep it from saying "authentication failed" half the time.... | 08:19 |
| robbiethe1st | how much 'power'? | 08:22 |
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| internetishard | robbiethe1st: not sure what to say, battery life? | 08:34 |
| Cleetus | internetishard: bq27220.sh will tell you how much power you are using | 08:34 |
| internetishard | for individual apps? | 08:34 |
| internetishard | or processes or whatever | 08:35 |
| Cleetus | no | 08:35 |
| internetishard | I'm just curious about the SIP client | 08:35 |
| Cleetus | measure power consumption | 08:35 |
| Cleetus | then start client and measure power consumption | 08:35 |
| internetishard | with and without it? | 08:35 |
| internetishard | k | 08:35 |
| Cleetus | you cannot measure consumption of individual apps | 08:36 |
| Cleetus | and don't say 'android' | 08:36 |
| internetishard | Did I? | 08:36 |
| Cleetus | :) | 08:36 |
| internetishard | When did I say Android? | 08:36 |
| Cleetus | you were thinking it | 08:37 |
| internetishard | lol, not sure why I would be | 08:37 |
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| internetishard | I prefer maemo after seeing all my friends Android problems | 08:37 |
| internetishard | Or more specifically, limitations/inabilities | 08:38 |
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| Cleetus | :D | 08:41 |
| Cleetus | android does have some good innovations we could use | 08:42 |
| Cleetus | in the kernel | 08:42 |
| Cleetus | but they threw away the rest of gnu/linux, which sucks dog logs | 08:42 |
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| Cleetus | i'm afraid n900 may be the best we get for a long, long time | 08:43 |
| Cleetus | a high-water mark of civilization, so to speak | 08:44 |
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| Cleetus | http://i.imgur.com/ucnl1.png why i want that hq2x scaler | 08:46 |
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| silverblade_ | hello guys | 09:19 |
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| silverblade_ | hey guys i was able to Share my computer's Internet with my N900...!! | 09:20 |
| silverblade_ | but i am facing some problem...upgrading or installing packages on it...!! | 09:21 |
| silverblade_ | Can anyone tell me how to Use Proxy Server with Application Manager....?????????? | 09:22 |
| silverblade_ | i googled a lot also tried to search it on forum...still was not able to make | 09:22 |
| silverblade_ | is there anyone who knows how to do it...!! | 09:22 |
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| h4x0rr | exit | 09:24 |
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| pupnik | rahul: hi | 09:35 |
| pupnik | please give more information | 09:36 |
| rahul | hey hi pupnik.. | 09:36 |
| pupnik | what computer os, how did you share connection | 09:36 |
| rahul | i'll explain... | 09:36 |
| rahul | i connected my phone using usb networking | 09:37 |
| rahul | ok i will explain in brief | 09:37 |
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| rahul | i opened a local port on n900 | 09:38 |
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| rahul | and forwarded the proxy port to same | 09:39 |
| pupnik | http proxy? | 09:39 |
| rahul | and in iceweasel browser i changed the proxy settings and i am able to connect | 09:39 |
| rahul | through proxy | 09:39 |
| pupnik | ok | 09:39 |
| rahul | i can download the files using wget | 09:39 |
| rahul | by changing the variable http_proxy | 09:40 |
| rahul | i can download the debian packages directly using the proxy | 09:40 |
| rahul | that i have forwarded from my computer to the debian | 09:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, I never really get the use of proxies, but in your case I guess you need proper forwarding on your PC | 09:40 |
| pupnik | yes | 09:40 |
| rahul | well the think is i am in OFFIce right now | 09:41 |
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| rahul | and my company doesnt allow direct access to internet | 09:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah | 09:41 |
| rahul | so what i did is...the proxy that i use to access the internet on the comptuer... | 09:41 |
| rahul | i have forwarded it to port 80 of n900 | 09:41 |
| rahul | and i told firefox to use localhost:80 | 09:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, I dunno if HAM would work over HTTP:80 only | 09:42 |
| pupnik | looks like apt can do http proxying (!) | 09:42 |
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| rahul | wow | 09:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAM is based on apt-get, so check that to get an idea | 09:43 |
| rahul | actully i tried that as well | 09:43 |
| rahul | tried changing apt.conf file | 09:43 |
| rahul | but seems it didnt like it | 09:43 |
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| rahul | one min...i will let you the exact error message | 09:43 |
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| rahul | unreachable) Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free avahi-daemon 0.6.24-0maemo1 Cannot initiate the connection to 80:80 (0.0.0.80). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free birthday 0.3-1 Cannot initiate the connection to 80:80 (0.0.0.80). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free fbreader 0.12.10-28 Cannot initiate the co | 09:45 |
| pupnik | looks like a malconfigured proxy line | 09:46 |
| rahul | i tired with the command # apt-get upgrade --fix-missing | 09:46 |
| pupnik | no no | 09:46 |
| pupnik | look at this 80:80 (0.0.0.80) | 09:46 |
| pupnik | http::proxy "http://user name:passw@host:port/" host is not "80" | 09:47 |
| rahul | silverblade:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf ACQUIRE { http::proxy "localhost:80" } | 09:47 |
| pupnik | yeah well you can't proxy from yourself | 09:47 |
| pupnik | s/localhost/your_proxy_computer | 09:47 |
| rahul | but the thing is i am using the same think in firefox | 09:47 |
| pupnik | well don't | 09:47 |
| rahul | thing** | 09:48 |
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| rahul | can you tell me what mistake i am doin | 09:48 |
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| rahul | and what shud i do in order to fix it :D | 09:48 |
| pupnik | host | 09:48 |
| pupnik | is your | 09:48 |
| pupnik | proxy ip address | 09:48 |
| pupnik | cheers | 09:49 |
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| rahul | thanks pupnik | 09:50 |
| rahul | :D let me try it | 09:50 |
| rahul | hey tring still not working | 09:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | internetishard: you're aware what keep-alive is for, what it's actually doing and how that will impact power consumption of esp the 3G modem? | 09:58 |
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| rahul | wow...its working now.........!! | 10:01 |
| rahul | thanks "PUPNIK" "YOU ROCK MAN" :D | 10:01 |
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| pupnik | daimonin client is nicely scalable - got it down to 30-40% cpu and it's pretty playable | 10:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | meh, we only pointed to a basically very obvious plain text error msg, rahul | 10:04 |
| rahul | actully i havnt tried used apt-get much..!! yesterday i googled abt apt configuration...may i didnt read the apt-get man pages carefully | 10:06 |
| rahul | anyways thank you friends you are really helpful...and i would be happy to contribute to this community....:D | 10:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, shame on you ;-D | 10:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | contribute is feasible: add the proper info to wiki | 10:07 |
| mece | Hello there | 10:08 |
| rahul | sure :D | 10:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | moo mece | 10:09 |
| rahul | my mail address is : rahul at live dot cn | we can b friends doc.... :D | 10:09 |
| rahul | g2g guys...thanks and have a great day :D | 10:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | fine, so now I know where to send flames to if thereams no prper "using proxy howto" appearing on wiki ;-) | 10:11 |
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| jacekowski | rahul: do you know that all spam crawlers already know how to deal with simple formatting like at and dot? | 10:21 |
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| rahul | jackowski : nope ... :D | 10:26 |
| rahul | jackowski: can you suggest a better way ? | 10:27 |
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| internetishard | DocScrutinizer, I know little about keep-alive... I'm trying to remedy an issue where at "auto" keep-alive time the SIP client says "authentication failed" whenever I leave my phone alone for a while. Any ideas? | 10:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: SIP, like any other service, needs to accept inbound messages (listening on port XY). NATs and Firewalls use outbound traffic to open up a inbound path so those msgs actually arrive at the port where (here) SIP is listening. As usually UDP is used and that's a connectionless protocol, there's no way for NAT/FW to determine such a so called session is obsolete when e.g you SIP client terminated. So there's a timeout that gets | 10:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | reset on each new data packet transferred over that session (aka port). Keep-alive is sending msgs/packets to reset that timer. | 10:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | so, to fix issues like yours, the best approach is to increase the session timeout on the NAT/FW that acts up | 10:36 |
| internetishard | This is over 2g/3g | 10:36 |
| internetishard | on wifi it doesn't do that | 10:36 |
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| internetishard | Also, the odd thing is that I have two accounts with the same provider (voip.ms), and one account this happens and another it doesn't (the one it doesn't is using the server overseas, and the one that does is using the server closest to me... Riddle me that! | 10:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's particularly bad then, as then that's your 3G provider that (possibly on purpose) spoils the NAT session for SIP | 10:37 |
| internetishard | does = "authentication failed" after some time | 10:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | usually SIP proxies do that keep-alive sending business for you, as for NAT it doesn't matter if the packet is outbound or in. Timer gets reset on both | 10:39 |
| internetishard | Hmmm, I'm gonna mess with the "loose routing" setting some more | 10:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | you might try to change port 5060 to sth different - like 5072. Most SIP providers don't mind | 10:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | loose routing also is a rather important setting sometimes | 10:42 |
| internetishard | Thanks | 10:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | SIP is really complex | 10:42 |
| internetishard | Indeed | 10:42 |
| internetishard | How's physics? | 10:42 |
| internetishard | Any cosmology book recommendations? | 10:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hah | 10:45 |
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| jacekowski | my carrier just blocks sip | 10:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Robot101: do ou know if telepathy-sip is dealing with "roaming" (change of client's IP) ? | 10:46 |
| jacekowski | and i can't do anything about it | 10:46 |
| internetishard | I use tmobile - whatever that is now - and I've been able to use SIP over 3G | 10:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Robot101: obviously telepathy *should* detect this condition and re-register to SIP registrar, using the new IP | 10:47 |
| Sc0rpius | http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/29/nokia-promises-strong-symbian-devices-through-windows-phone-tran/ | 10:47 |
| Sc0rpius | I wonder if the would make an OTA update to Maemo too | 10:47 |
| internetishard | I can also stay connected while on 2G and answer, but I have to switch to 3G if I want the other person to understand me | 10:47 |
| Sc0rpius | that would kinda suck | 10:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: yes, obviously bandwidth of simple 2G usually is too low for RTP audio | 10:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | internetishard: EDGE (2.5) should work if it's at max, esp for uplink | 10:50 |
| internetishard | Indeed, I think it has | 10:50 |
| internetishard | But as soon as it isn't maxed issues occur | 10:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, there's RTCP so the far end could tell local user agent about the problems so both could negotiate a more humble codec for audio RTP. But that's usually not supported | 10:52 |
| mardy | DocScrutinizer: IIRC, in the N800 the situation was detected by mission-control, who informed tp-sofiasip; in the N900 I think it was removed, because tp-sofiasip was able to handle the situation itself | 10:53 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:53 |
| mardy | DocScrutinizer: but I'm not 100% sure about it | 10:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | (actually it's way more complex, but no use in elaborating here) | 10:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | mardy: thanks anyway | 10:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | mardy: in line with what I'd have expected telepathy to do | 10:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mardy: the tricky part is you can't guarantee your NIC's IP will change when modem is roaming from 2G to 3G for instance. Your NAT might give you a new public IP while you (by incident) get same LAN IP | 10:58 |
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| alterego | I thought IP was per session | 10:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | so as soon as you're behind a NAT there seems to be no other way than ping STUN server on a regular schedule, to determine if your public IP is unchanged | 10:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I usually work around that by setting re-registration time down to 120s..300s | 11:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | if there's an option to do so - like in twinklephone :-D | 11:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | alterego: sorry? | 11:03 |
| alterego | I thought you were talking about network swtching ober GSM :P | 11:03 |
| alterego | My mistake | 11:03 |
| mece | OT but bwuahahahah http://rocknewsdesk.com/world-news/napster-boss-set-to-buy-metallicas-record-label/ | 11:04 |
| pupnik | no way | 11:05 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:05 |
| mece | what goes around comes around, as they say | 11:05 |
| alterego | Did Metallica have that huge thing agaist p2p? | 11:05 |
| mece | they shut down napster | 11:05 |
| alterego | Ah, | 11:07 |
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| yacc | Anyone got an idea how to prevent the screen saver from the cmdline? gconf? dbus? | 11:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm yes, probably :-P | 11:55 |
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| yacc | DocScrutinizer: I've found /apps/osso/applet/osso-applet-display/* => but I'm not sure what to kill to make the values go live, ... | 12:01 |
| psycho_oreos | never thought one would like to put fancy screen savers on N900. Usually screen timeout (thus turning off) is the ideal solution. If its that then its usually dbus afaik. | 12:01 |
| yacc | Well, I want to prevent it while it's usb-connected and already fully charged? Seems to timeout on me, despite "always bright when charging" being selected, ... | 12:02 |
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| yacc | Now this could be also a malfunction, .. | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suspect a dbus msg to mce should do it | 12:02 |
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| timeless_w7ip | you definitely talk to mce | 12:03 |
| * timeless_w7ip can't remember if it's dbus | 12:03 | |
| psycho_oreos | I know with dbus you can control the brightness level but barely | 12:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | what else? ;-) | 12:03 |
| psycho_oreos | I haven't figured out how to make the screen remain lit and have had me N900 run flat with the screen on and charging through microUSB connection to computer | 12:04 |
| yacc | Well, actually, what I'm doing is turning the brightness down via /proc, but for x11vnc to work I need to make the n900 think that it's not blanked, because that makes vncviewer go black too :( | 12:04 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, well, that's why I do echo 1 > /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness | 12:05 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, that makes the hardware go really dim, without the software noticing, overly ;) | 12:05 |
| psycho_oreos | yacc, well you could probably make a script to do that when you run x11vnc, kinda like a wrapper script | 12:06 |
| yacc | Ok, I'll reboot the n900, perhaps it's just a temporal bug. | 12:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | alas dbus-monitor neither on system nor session bus can find some interesting stuff when I switch simple brightness applet to always_on | 12:06 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, well, for x11vnc to work it needs the n900 to think that it did not blank the screen, or the vnc screen turns black too. | 12:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | yacc: yes, this for sure is a bug that sounds like mce blew chunks | 12:07 |
| yacc | DocScrutinizer: Well, my 1st N900 did not have that issue, ... | 12:07 |
| psycho_oreos | yacc, dim but still blanking with that command? | 12:07 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, yeah, it blanks, but let's see if a reboot solves that. | 12:08 |
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| psycho_oreos | yacc, ahh ok | 12:08 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, and yes, x11vnc & vncviewer gets started from the usbnet configuration script that is run indirectly from pcsuite-enable.sh ;) | 12:08 |
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| yacc | Most people consider me crazy when they notice that my desktop pops up a window with the phone UI when I plug it into USB ;) | 12:09 |
| psycho_oreos | I'd probably use x11vnc more if I could get rid of the lag | 12:10 |
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| psycho_oreos | the lag is far worse than for one to hook their N900 up to TV screen for instance | 12:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | yacc: check mce.ini | 12:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yacc: make sure you got no fubar modules like e.g lp5523 included by powerkernel, which is known to cause mce to segfault occasionally | 12:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | same applies for (early ?) versions of fcam, that directly accesses /sys/*/*/led:r/brightness and thus causes mce to barf | 12:14 |
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| timeless_w7ip | wow | 12:15 |
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| yacc | DocScrutinizer: I installed fcam by mistake, but I thought that I've solved that one, because the standard camera app started to work again. | 12:19 |
| yacc | Anyway, a reboot cured the problem. | 12:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | timeless_w7ip: wow? | 12:20 |
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| yacc | psycho_oreos, the lag is quite a bit better via USB than WLAN. | 12:20 |
| psycho_oreos | yacc, indeed but still unbearable | 12:20 |
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| crashanddie | so, geek question | 12:20 |
| crashanddie | what can I do against a fried HD? | 12:20 |
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| crashanddie | I tried freezing it, didn't help | 12:21 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, and my central use for VNC is to have a sensible keyboard and display, so I can use the N900 as my total and complete communication central. | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | shit, was going to suggest that ;-P | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: replace electronics | 12:21 |
| crashanddie | well, I don't know if it's worth the trouble | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | or send in to a commercial data recovery center | 12:22 |
| psycho_oreos | yacc, there's still heaps of limitations with using x11vnc, granted that its a hell lot more easier to deal with a proper sized keyboard, mouse pointers and what not | 12:22 |
| crashanddie | defo not worth the trouble | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | so the answer is "use the sledge hammer" | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | helps against all kinds of fried HDDs | 12:23 |
| psycho_oreos | usually freeze trick should work, there was an old blog that I read of someone replacing the board on the underside of the HD. The donor HD's component must be a close replica to the one being donated | 12:23 |
| crashanddie | yeah, that's easy | 12:23 |
| crashanddie | but finding the HD is trickier | 12:23 |
| crashanddie | it's just 8 months old though, which is kind of a bummer | 12:23 |
| psycho_oreos | indeed.. sometimes fleabay (ebay) may help | 12:23 |
| crashanddie | my gf's computer | 12:23 |
| crashanddie | I'll probably send it in for repair, and she'll get a new HD | 12:24 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, well, MicroB does not want to scroll, the keyboard has a weird keymap (and you cannot enter symbols not found on the hardware keyboard of the N900, you need to press AltGr-Ctrl so the Symbol dialog pops up and press the button via mouse), and you need to slide open the keyboard or the onscreen keyboard pops up. | 12:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | honestly, you can't do much if HDD went bonkers | 12:24 |
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| crashanddie | I know | 12:24 |
| yacc | psycho_oreos, that's my list of irritations. | 12:24 |
| crashanddie | First thing I tried was the obvious SATA-USB cable to check if it worked | 12:24 |
| crashanddie | I tried to remain hopeful, she's got her uni docs on the drive | 12:24 |
| crashanddie | when that didn't work... | 12:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | does it start up? | 12:25 |
| psycho_oreos | yacc, lol those are also my main gripes with x11vnc apart from speed issues | 12:25 |
| crashanddie | The disk? It spins OK, but I can hear the head cycling around | 12:25 |
| crashanddie | And it doesn't even register in BIOS/USB | 12:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 12:25 |
| yacc | crashanddie, well, not sure, but I'm used to replace my laptops HDD yearly, because commuting weekly usually kills it after 12-24 months, without any especially bad happening, ... | 12:25 |
| yacc | crashanddie, is usually a good period, because after 12months you usually get a slightly bigger hdd, so /home can grow nicely. | 12:26 |
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| crashanddie | heh... My mbp has done well over 50k miles in planes, cars and trains, and still works fine | 12:26 |
| psycho_oreos | its really hard to say what the problem is without going through the normal procedural way. Such as replacing the controller on the HD, checking the disk, etc | 12:26 |
| crashanddie | I'll check the company hardware store | 12:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 12:27 |
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| crashanddie | with luck we have a disk from same manufacturer/make | 12:27 |
| yacc | crashanddie, well, same ballpark for me, ... | 12:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | replace controller PCBA, if that doesn't help or isn't possible, forget it | 12:27 |
| crashanddie | aye | 12:28 |
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| crashanddie | yacc, 50k miles in 6 months :P | 12:28 |
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| crashanddie | probably 150k over 18 months | 12:28 |
| yacc | I wonder how we got to the point that most Linux people do not want to touch pulseaudio (or the previous generation of the idea), ... | 12:28 |
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| yacc | crashanddie, well with me it was usually 2x900km per week, usually by car (and that's bad, you never consider emergency braking and braking down from >200km/h as quickly as possible does usually send all kind of stuff flying, e.g. the laptop on the passenger seat), or train. | 12:31 |
| crashanddie | You drive at > 200km/h? | 12:31 |
| yacc | Well, the A3 from Passau to Nürnberg tends to have not much traffic, ... | 12:32 |
| crashanddie | Apparently, too much for 200kph if you have to do emergency braking ;) | 12:32 |
| yacc | So yes, going onsite in Germany, I do like the Germans do ;) | 12:32 |
| yacc | crashanddie, not really, it's emergency, and my worst emergency in traffic have been in places that have speed limits. | 12:33 |
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| pupnik | here's pupnik's nokia e900 wishdevice with keyboard http://i.imgur.com/SB256.png | 13:09 |
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| xkr47 | pupnik, <3 | 13:10 |
| xkr47 | but where is shift! | 13:11 |
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| pupnik | oh forgot it | 13:11 |
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| xkr47 | also the nokia logo should be upside down for maximum humiliation | 13:11 |
| xkr47 | :) | 13:11 |
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| pupnik | anyway with 4 rows you can pretty much do all the important things | 13:13 |
| ruskie | pupnik, where's META!!??? | 13:13 |
| pupnik | another good one | 13:14 |
| chem|st | pupnik: you are missing a shift key... | 13:15 |
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| pupnik | yeah | 13:16 |
| chem|st | and it is not a dvorak layout... shame on you! | 13:17 |
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| timeless_w7ip | so, combining shift and fn might not be that bad actually | 13:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer-8 | wtf? | 13:20 |
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| timeless_w7ip | tap once for shift, tap twice for fn? | 13:21 |
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| pupnik | yeah | 13:21 |
| dangergrrl | has an esc key and a / key at least :) | 13:21 |
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| timeless_w7ip | my main complaint is that ? should be near / | 13:22 |
| timeless_w7ip | not on 9 | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | WTF?! | 13:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer-8 | how's capslock/fnßlock supposed to work then? | 13:22 |
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| timeless_w7ip | how often do you use capslock? beyond when you want to write WTF? | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | you might consider having qualifier/meta keys on a qualified layer | 13:23 |
| timeless_w7ip | ? | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | timeless_w7ip: how often do you use fn-lock? | 13:24 |
| pupnik | ok ok now i got it! | 13:24 |
| timeless_w7ip | i only use fn lock when i'm writing numbers | 13:24 |
| pupnik | with ctrl and alt! http://i.imgur.com/mI6Ar.png | 13:24 |
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| timeless_w7ip | pupnik: shift should be above fn | 13:25 |
| flux | how do you press fn+shift+something then :P | 13:25 |
| timeless_w7ip | it's somewhat traditional to have fn at lower left | 13:25 |
| pupnik | right, | 13:25 |
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| pupnik | i was thinking you could do key combos easier that way | 13:26 |
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| timeless_w7ip | flux: fn is a modifier, you can trigger it first and then do something | 13:26 |
| timeless_w7ip | fn; shift + something | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | BS | 13:26 |
| timeless_w7ip | chording is stupid | 13:26 |
| timeless_w7ip | you don't press ctrl-alt-delete on a phone | 13:27 |
| timeless_w7ip | ctrl-shift-p on the n900 is painful | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | uhuh | 13:27 |
| pupnik | get it, the μ is on the 'm' key? hahah | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | seems you press shift-ctrl-p though | 13:27 |
| dangergrrl | and i would like the current n900 keyboard better if it had [] the lack of esc would be more tenable | 13:27 |
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| timeless_w7ip | dangergrrl: i have most of the keys i need on my n900 | 13:28 |
| dangergrrl | ctrl then shift whatever to get ] would beat having to bring up an osk for esc | 13:28 |
| timeless_w7ip | i think {}[] are missing | 13:28 |
| pupnik | nope, they're on 'fn's | 13:28 |
| timeless_w7ip | but i have <>~ | 13:28 |
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| dangergrrl | i want esc or meta don't need both, the software i care about takes esc then char to be same as M-char | 13:30 |
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| ruskie | http://www.reghardware.com/2011/03/29/sony_ericsson_android_boot_loader_unlock/ <-- hmm | 13:30 |
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| dangergrrl | anyhow i'm reading the 1979 pdp 11 processor handbook as a bedtime story | 13:30 |
| pupnik | oops, two GBP symbols | 13:31 |
| pupnik | hah | 13:31 |
| dangergrrl | if it doesn't make me sleepy i'll have to torrent a book on economics | 13:31 |
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| dangergrrl | i remembered today that i have never read lions' commentary on the unix v6 source code because when i badly wanted it you had to know someone who has a copy | 13:32 |
| chem|st | dangergrrl: should send you some pdp 11 books... | 13:32 |
| dangergrrl | just trying to refresh enough to understand the .s files in unix v6 | 13:33 |
| chem|st | or the win2.1 handbook | 13:33 |
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| chem|st | eichi: greetings to benztown | 13:34 |
| eichi | is there a kind of application or option to react on busy caller i want to call with recalling after 1 or 2 minutes? | 13:34 |
| eichi | chem|st: ? | 13:34 |
| chem|st | eichi: thought the stgt stands for stuttgart | 13:34 |
| dangergrrl | i was comitted to the state nut lockup in oklahome once, they had this wonderful book comparing the cold war economies of us vs ussr i fell asleep in under 10 pages every time | 13:34 |
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| eichi | yeah, but was is "benztown" ? | 13:35 |
| eichi | ah, okay ;) | 13:35 |
| chem|st | stgt is also refered as benztown | 13:35 |
| timeless_w7ip | eichi: i'm pretty sure there's a redialer somewhere | 13:35 |
| eichi | yes, thats true | 13:35 |
| chem|st | although it is sindlefingen^^ | 13:36 |
| dangergrrl | i suppose i could read armel databooks | 13:36 |
| eichi | no way to config reaction on busy phone? | 13:39 |
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| eichi | n900 is best smartphone on the world, but worst phone for calling i think ;D | 13:40 |
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| dangergrrl | eichi: i was telling someone that earlier | 13:41 |
| dangergrrl | it's kinda crappy as a phone in some ways but i didn't buy it for that, it was a bonus feature | 13:41 |
| eichi | yeah, same to. but sometimes i thing, it would be hard to make some more phone features | 13:42 |
| dangergrrl | if you have firefox mobile open with a few tabs your phone call can be gone before you can switch to the phone app | 13:42 |
| eichi | just bought it because if nice hardware and olmost open linux (and choosing the OS) | 13:42 |
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| dangergrrl | it's an awesome handheld linux system with an active user/developer community | 13:43 |
| eichi | yeah, i use buildin browser, because firefox because for firefox its to slow a bit | 13:43 |
| dangergrrl | which is what i wanted | 13:44 |
| dangergrrl | wish the phone feature worked a little more reliably | 13:44 |
| eichi | yeah, same here. i'm on same position then you. doenst matter to say, that the phone functions are little bit fuc*ed up ;) | 13:44 |
| dangergrrl | i considered android but android doesn't have an open source developer community behind it | 13:45 |
| eichi | i liked the "call again in 1 minute" function of my old old old mobile phone ;) | 13:45 |
| eichi | one day i will try meego (first dualboot) | 13:46 |
| dangergrrl | google wants android devs to stay inside the java sandbox | 13:46 |
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| dangergrrl | kinda like chromeos almost wants to hide that it's linux | 13:47 |
| pupnik | how does a cell phone answer a caller "call again in 1 minute" without two radios | 13:47 |
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| eichi | pupnik: i mean (bad english sorry,) that if you call someone and he is busy (calling at the moment) then get a "busy" status from phone network for this person. in this case, you phone can as you "do you wanna try it automatically in 1 minute again?" then you say yes and phone makes a "sound" after 55 sec and after 60sec it calls the person again you tried to call | 13:49 |
| eichi | after that, same with 2 minutes, then 5 and so on | 13:50 |
| ruskie | could be doable I guess | 13:50 |
| timeless_w7ip | if there isn't something public for maemo | 13:50 |
| eichi | then you can work without thinking about it, and you get a acoustic notivy if the other person has a free phone | 13:50 |
| timeless_w7ip | then i've definitely seen a demo somewhere for it | 13:50 |
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| timeless_w7ip | hypothetically :) | 13:51 |
| timeless_w7ip | oh | 13:51 |
| eichi | how is this called on english, then i can try to search for? | 13:51 |
| * timeless_w7ip ponders | 13:51 | |
| DocScrutinizer | eichi: should be simple to implement | 13:51 |
| timeless_w7ip | eichi: i'd search for 'redialler' but i think the demo i saw was actually fancier | 13:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | so it probably was private | 13:52 |
| eichi | DocScrutinizer depends on the extension APIs but i think so too | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | eichi: I bet a busy call is signalled on dbus, and you got dbus-scripting and cmdlime call initiation | 13:53 |
| dangergrrl | omg this pdp11 manual is too funny; i'll never sleep reading it | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | eichi: you'd need a small script to increase the redial delay time, and eventually stop (after 30min usually). Also rise a notifier about the redial in progress, with a "cancel" button | 13:55 |
| timeless_w7ip | sp3000: ping did i miss lunch? | 13:55 |
| dangergrrl | "The maximum transfer rate on the UNIBUS is one 16-bit word every 400ns..." | 13:56 |
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| dangergrrl | that's funny | 13:56 |
| eichi | i see in wiki. it can be done with dbus an python script | 13:56 |
| eichi | is there a api for python to hilton desktop? | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | pyqt? | 13:57 |
| eichi | is this default? | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno | 13:57 |
| eichi | or how do applications normaly use the desktop things | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask somebody actually developing GUIs with python | 13:58 |
| dangergrrl | pyqt is you want forward compatibility with meego or like qt; pygtk if you don't like qt | 13:59 |
| eichi | qt is okay. I use it with c++ sometimes | 13:59 |
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| dangergrrl | but i know nothing of python other than it's whitespace sensitive | 13:59 |
| dangergrrl | which seems stupid in the 21st century :) | 14:00 |
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| eichi | but never uses for the n900, just "normal machines" | 14:00 |
| eichi | dangergrrl: yeah, its the ideal to force structure, with all its advantages and disatvantages | 14:00 |
| eichi | -t+d | 14:00 |
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| dangergrrl | i don't think the fact that you can write horrible and ugly code detracts from the utility or power of C | 14:02 |
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| chem|st | eichi: your dbus call will look something like this (for cmd) dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.Call /com/nokia/csd/call com.nokia.csd.Call.CreateWith string:'$NUMBER' uint32:0 | 14:04 |
| dangergrrl | you can write bad code in any useful language | 14:04 |
| eichi | chem|st: found the wiki articles allready, thanks | 14:04 |
| chem|st | ah ok | 14:04 |
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| eichi | dangergrrl: thats true | 14:05 |
| eichi | have to do some work now, cu | 14:07 |
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| pupnik | version 5: pupnik's nokia e900 keyboard - the VNC-ing, shellscripting, scientific editing monster http://i.imgur.com/ih0PZ.png | 14:35 |
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| pupnik | for whoever asked for function keys - those are shift 0-9 ;) | 14:36 |
| ruskie | is there some need for (R) (c) +/- | 14:36 |
| pupnik | you can't type them | 14:37 |
| pupnik | that could | 14:37 |
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| chem|st | barely used... that's some for the symbol popup | 14:38 |
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| sp3000 | timeless_w7ip: I didn't see you so I suspect you did | 14:39 |
| pupnik | dude the point is to have everything | 14:39 |
| pupnik | suggest something more important | 14:39 |
| chem|st | pupnik: make ctrl first lvl and you spare on home end and stuff keys | 14:40 |
| pupnik | what are you going to move for ctrl | 14:40 |
| pupnik | show me | 14:40 |
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| pupnik | ctrl needs to be able to send ctrl, for terminal, apps, vnc stuff | 14:41 |
| chem|st | actualy swap tab,fn and shift and make tab ctrl and fn+esc tab (ctrl+i is tab already) | 14:41 |
| pupnik | not for apps that need ctrl+i | 14:41 |
| pupnik | ;) | 14:42 |
| chem|st | then they brake with the design! | 14:42 |
| pupnik | vim needs ctrl-i | 14:42 |
| pupnik | but i do like having ctrl be on first level | 14:43 |
| chem|st | my vim interprets ctrl+i as tab... | 14:43 |
| pupnik | so oh duh | 14:43 |
| pupnik | why not just switch ctrl and tab on the same key | 14:44 |
| chem|st | in insert mode ctrl+i is tab in vim | 14:44 |
| pupnik | make ctrl first level | 14:44 |
| pupnik | tab = fn+ctrl | 14:44 |
| chem|st | as I want ctrl+shift for one finger | 14:44 |
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| pupnik | problem there is when you need tab, you need to hit it frequently | 14:44 |
| pupnik | editing documents | 14:44 |
| pupnik | sorry, MS Word does not recognize ctrl+i | 14:45 |
| chem|st | so what... with n900 I got used to ctrl+i | 14:45 |
| chem|st | are we talking µBS now? | 14:45 |
| pupnik | many apps do not know it | 14:45 |
| pupnik | talking about what happens when you use it to vnc to your work computer | 14:45 |
| chem|st | yes thats why fn+esc could be it | 14:45 |
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| * pupnik nods | 14:46 | |
| pupnik | certainly many options | 14:46 |
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| chem|st | it is no option to have it in the sym-popup for sure but me thinks 2nd lvl is ok | 14:47 |
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| chem|st | on cmd I use ctrl+$key more often in combinations like ctrl+k <some entry> ctrl+i | 14:48 |
| chem|st | but there is jumping words with alt+arrow also important | 14:49 |
| chem|st | a proper BT or wifi keyboard instead, for going productive in the first place | 14:49 |
| chem|st | I live edited websites during a meeting with n900, wasn't much slower than with a proper keyboard | 14:51 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hey | 15:17 |
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| trx | anyone used usb to lpt adapter with the N900? | 15:48 |
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| trx | i'm not looking to print, but to control some IC | 15:49 |
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| pupnik | http://i.imgur.com/QZk2W.png version 6 - Nakio E900 with larger display, battery | 15:59 |
| RST38h | This is wazd's mockup, isn't it? | 16:01 |
| nid0 | 16:10 tbh :< | 16:01 |
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| pupnik | yea | 16:05 |
| pupnik | oh drat | 16:05 |
| pupnik | maths | 16:05 |
| visz | i kinda like the front facing camera | 16:06 |
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| visz | i've used it at least once for testing the google talk with video | 16:06 |
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| pupnik | does not computer | 16:07 |
| RST38h | pupnik <-- preparing for April 1st in advance | 16:07 |
| pupnik | you need to broadcast your beauty with a HD camera visz | 16:07 |
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| visz | you must mistake me for someone with a face that does not scare little children | 16:08 |
| Venemo_N900 | visz: lol | 16:09 |
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| RST38h | Why is everyone assuming that these cameras are used to show faces? Most often, they are not, it seems... | 16:10 |
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| Venemo_N900 | RST38h: what? | 16:10 |
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| Trewas | chatroulette works with smartphones? | 16:11 |
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| visz | =) | 16:13 |
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| pupnik | <xxxnd> My grandmother and grandfather bought a house in 1950, for $5k, when they sell it, they sell it for $120k -- aproximatly the same price, adjusted for inflation. But since they made a "profit", the government will tax them $35,000. | 16:25 |
| xkr47 | :O | 16:26 |
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| crashanddie | $5k is not $120k adjusted for inflation. | 16:27 |
| crashanddie | $5k in 1950 would be roughly $50k these days | 16:27 |
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| crashanddie | so they made $70k profit, thus $35k tax is "acceptable" | 16:27 |
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| crashanddie | pupnik, I understand you enjoy being the radical neutron and all, but please don't spread other people's BS without checking facts first. kthxbai. | 16:28 |
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| luke-jr | crashanddie: 50% tax is not "acceptable" | 16:32 |
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| crashanddie | well, considering how "inflated" the initial statement was, I'm pretty sure they're not taxing $35k, but more something between $20k and $25k, which would be roughly the percentage of tax you get on short and long term capital gains | 16:34 |
| crashanddie | (which, IIRC, in the US is between 15 and 35%) | 16:35 |
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| crashanddie | luke-jr, also, don't forget that if you live in the UK, if you make over 150k a year, you're pretty much taxed 62.5%. | 16:35 |
| xkr47 | if you make it in 60 years.. | 16:36 |
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| crashanddie | (well, I don't know if the tax reform ever passed, but that was one of the proposed templates anyway) | 16:36 |
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| crashanddie | the US has probably one of the worst taxation systems in the world... American citizens have to pay "citizen taxes", even if they don't live in the country anymore | 16:37 |
| luke-jr | crashanddie: including if it's a sale+purchase? | 16:39 |
| crashanddie | well, there's one major question that should be answered, was it their primary residence, or not? | 16:39 |
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| crashanddie | "Under 26 U.S.C. §121 an individual can exclude up to $250,000 ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) of capital gains on the sale of real property if the owner used it as primary residence for two of the five years before the date of sale." | 16:40 |
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| crashanddie | So, I'm calling utter and final BS on pupnik's quote. | 16:40 |
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| RST38h | Ah...Jeremy Morlock, what a name... | 16:43 |
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| Robot101 | DocScrutinizer: we don't do anything to detect or act on ip changes, it would be sofiasip's job. but, wouldn't the next keepalive message get authenticated and cause a re-register? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nope | 16:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | keep-alive is >vdev/null | 16:46 |
| ZogG | hahaha i have new box with iphone4 | 16:49 |
| ZogG | i need to sell it now | 16:49 |
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| pupnik | some people don't understand how inflation is a hidden tax | 16:49 |
| xkr47 | but if you divide 35000 over 60 years, that's $500 a year.. | 16:50 |
| timeless_w7ip | calling it a tax is wrong | 16:54 |
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| jacekowski | timeless_w7ip: in greece it was a tax | 17:01 |
| SpeedEvil | It's only a tax if the reason for the inflation is quantative easing. | 17:01 |
| jacekowski | timeless_w7ip: government was using is a way of taxing people | 17:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | heh | 17:01 |
| jacekowski | timeless_w7ip: because everybody was avoiding paying taxes in "normal" way | 17:01 |
| jacekowski | timeless_w7ip: that's why shit happened when they started using euro | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, mce/backlight.so urgently needs some improvements: from a certain amboent brightness up it should disable backlight (as useless anyway) and increase contrast to max. | 17:22 |
| visz | such light levels are unknown in finland | 17:23 |
| GAN900 | crashanddie, either way, it's still morally questionable to tell other people what to do with their money and property using people with guns. | 17:23 |
| timeless_w7ip | visz++ | 17:25 |
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| pupnik | N900 Idle: 112,103,116,111,103 = 109 mA (wlan on, cell radio off, med brightness) | 17:28 |
| pupnik | @ 12fps: 301,351,360,345,327 = 337 mA (228 mA used by Daimonin) | 17:28 |
| pupnik | @ 55fps: 471+468+471+462+477 = 470 Ma (361 mA used by Daimonin) | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | NB medium brightness is useless for comparative purposes, as only max brightness is *not* massively dependent on ambient light | 17:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | even then the real brightness might depend on display content as the LCD controller does adaptive backlight based on display max bright spot | 17:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (there's no use to power backlight at 100%, only to dim the dark spots to 0% and the bright spots to 10%. The controller is smart and dims *backlight* to 10%, compensating that by a 100% open LCD for the bright spot) | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw even the LCD itself eats massive power for (usually) dimming down to black. | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, it seems N900 LCD is a black_off type, so probably it eats power for UNdimming large areas of screen | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | for Neo FR this LCD control power been in the range of 40..60mA | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | iirc | 18:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pupnik_: put a finger on camera/prox-sensor/ALS and see if your readouts vary | 18:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pupnik_: also you should use some kinda standard display content for such evaluation | 18:03 |
| pupnik_ | brighness was at 3 bars. idle display was terminal, daimonin display was.. daimonin | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | as mentioned above, 3 bars brightness means nothing | 18:05 |
| pupnik_ | it was never dimmed | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | you'll notice that when you do the suggested covering of ALS | 18:05 |
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| pupnik_ | oh i see what you mean yes | 18:06 |
| pupnik_ | sorry, tired | 18:06 |
| pupnik_ | well at least the lighting didn't change between the runs | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | good | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | now you're aware of the problem | 18:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | now open painting program (or browser), two windows - one with all black background, the other all white background, and check power consumption for eachof them in foreground | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | do not change ambient light or brightness of backlight. Still you should probably see significant diffs | 18:10 |
| pupnik_ | with sensor covered i'm getting 103-104 mA | 18:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (see diffs) as LCD controller - in one or two of its operation modes - will dim backlight to 0 for the all black display, even if your backlight control is set to 100% | 18:12 |
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| ShadowJK | I first thought it was just like an analog crt, but then I realized the brightness variation based on amount of black text vs whitespace is intentional :/ | 18:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | check out content of nodes in /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | cabc == C? Adaptive Backlight Control (?) | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | C?ontent | 18:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cat cabc_available_modes | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | also see brightness vs actual_brighness | 18:20 |
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| pupnik_ | i got a bottle of liebfraumilch for my birthday and am enjoying my new game. cheers | 18:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | enjoy, cheers | 18:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, actually even on backlight-control at step5(max) the brightness is at 255 as expected but actual_brightness is only 207 | 18:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actual_brightness is brightness * correction_factor | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | where correction factor is depending on brightness of (and percentage of area of) the most bright spots in display content | 18:37 |
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| wazd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=977728#post977728 ehehehe :D | 18:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | cabc_mode: moving_image gives actual_brightness:186 for a completely darkish screen and 218 for a screen with mostly max white brightness. mode ui gives min 211, max 238 for same content | 18:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | surprise surprise, for cabc_mode off actual_brightness always == brightness | 18:58 |
| pupnik_ | http://i.imgur.com/oHkpc.png ok now improve the keyboard - swapped Ctrl and Tab | 18:58 |
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| pupnik_ | DocScrutinizer: sorry i mentioned it :D | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | pupnik_: eh? | 18:59 |
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| pupnik_ | wazd: damn nice render you made there | 19:00 |
| pupnik_ | notice the !@^%#@$% escape key is present | 19:01 |
| wazd | pupnik_: oh well, not quite render, but fun time indeed :) | 19:06 |
| wazd | pupnik_: wish I had 3d madskillz :( | 19:07 |
| pupnik_ | it's beautiful | 19:07 |
| pupnik_ | i particularly like the variant with 960x480 screen | 19:07 |
| pupnik_ | it screams sexy | 19:07 |
| wazd | pupnik_: well, that's not my work anymore :D | 19:08 |
| pupnik_ | what do you do now? | 19:08 |
| RST38h | moo, wazd | 19:08 |
| wazd | RST38h: o/ | 19:08 |
| pupnik_ | you seem like a talented person | 19:09 |
| wazd | pupnik_: well, pretty much the same stuff as always, helping OSS with UI design :) | 19:09 |
| wazd | pupnik_: thanks :) | 19:09 |
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| pupnik_ | i'm trying to make a better ui for a 800x600 game right now | 19:10 |
| pupnik_ | did you see the picture series? // prototypes? | 19:10 |
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| wazd | pupnik_: I guess no :) | 19:11 |
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| wazd | RST38h: btw, checked e7 at the local store - you're a damn lucky bastard :D | 19:11 |
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| pupnik_ | wazd: the situation - deciding how to revamp this 800x600 UI to n900 http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/images/174/1_screen-1-01.png | 19:12 |
| pupnik_ | so my approach was to find which information doesn't change often during game play | 19:12 |
| pupnik_ | then hide that in modal menus | 19:12 |
| wazd | pupnik_: wow! That's complex :D | 19:13 |
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| pupnik_ | http://www.daimonin.org/forums/daimonin-project/800x480-widget-client/msg94668/ | 19:13 |
| pupnik_ | you can skim that thread for some of the work | 19:13 |
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| pupnik_ | but i bet you could make a kickass skin for that | 19:13 |
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| pupnik_ | this is what i'm working with atm http://i.imgur.com/FaG14.png | 19:14 |
| RST38h | wazd: it is wonderful hardware and they have done their best on the sw | 19:14 |
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| wazd | pupnik_: is it some kind of mmorpg or something? | 19:17 |
| pupnik_ | without the first m, yes | 19:17 |
| wazd | pupnik_: ah, ok :) | 19:17 |
| pupnik_ | one thing that kills me... people who make objects that are full FFFFFF white, or red, or green | 19:18 |
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| pupnik_ | leaves no dynamic range for light-emitting objects | 19:18 |
| pupnik_ | it's not rocket science | 19:19 |
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| pupnik_ | but they are like "this is supposed to be white -- therefore FFFFFF" | 19:20 |
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| wazd | pupnik_: well, I'd be happy to try myself at this task but I won't promise anything super-awesome :) | 19:20 |
| pupnik_ | wazd: you can't do it unless you've played it though | 19:21 |
| pupnik_ | since you also need to have a feel for what info is relevant | 19:21 |
| crashanddie | haha, epic win on Omegle | 19:21 |
| wazd | pupnik_: can I try it? :) | 19:22 |
| pupnik_ | but if you have any little ideas or suggestions i'm very attentive to them | 19:22 |
| pupnik_ | you want try on n900 or on pc | 19:22 |
| wazd | pupnik_: PC's better | 19:23 |
| pupnik_ | want current 800x480 layout or original client? | 19:23 |
| wazd | pupnik_: original | 19:23 |
| pupnik_ | http://www.daimonin.org/download | 19:24 |
| pupnik_ | widget client lets you reposition elements | 19:24 |
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| pupnik_ | and you can replace any bitmap by copying a file into daimonin/gfx_user | 19:25 |
| pupnik_ | with the same name | 19:25 |
| pupnik_ | (very nice idea) | 19:25 |
| pupnik_ | if you have questions shout me in #daimonin | 19:25 |
| wazd | pupnik_: my initial idea is to copy Oblivion's UI cause it's a great example of complex Ui optimized for low resolution :) | 19:26 |
| crashanddie | http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/808/omegleepicwin.jpg | 19:26 |
| pupnik_ | yeah | 19:27 |
| pupnik_ | look at what some of these guys draw for item icons | 19:27 |
| pupnik_ | http://i.imgur.com/BHG9u.png | 19:27 |
| pupnik_ | 'I MAKE RED POTION NOW' | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, meh, can't see it | 19:28 |
| crashanddie | can't see it? | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | http://imageshack.us/img/blocked_login.jpg | 19:28 |
| crashanddie | http://img823.imageshack.us/i/omegleepicwin.jpg/ | 19:29 |
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| crashanddie | last time I use imageshack, I promise | 19:29 |
| rm_work | does anyone still use Packrat? i don't know if the script has even been running recently, the cron daemon on that host is less than reliable... | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, wtf, was that you? | 19:31 |
| crashanddie | the "you", yes. | 19:31 |
| MohammadAG | thanks for the mindrape | 19:32 |
| MohammadAG | you didn't plan that beforehand did you? | 19:32 |
| crashanddie | When I saw he was a troll | 19:32 |
| spiritd | anyone knows some good free finnish/nor/swe web hosting? | 19:35 |
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| wazd | pupnik_: well, I'm checking it roght now on the public server :) | 19:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: nice | 20:07 |
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| lolcat | Someone is leeching of my ad-hoc, what should I do? | 20:14 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCkpOxBBnkY lolcat | 20:15 |
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| lolcat | loading that on 3,5g is painfull | 20:19 |
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| lolcat | Especially when I am not the only one | 20:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | too long | 20:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also each time I hear sb pronouncing router like outer with a leading R, my toenails curl up. R-out 66, the famous American highway, or what? | 20:24 |
| lolcat | Does tat workl on the n900 | 20:24 |
| lolcat | Even ssh is lagging :S | 20:25 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/presscon8.html hot pictures coming up! | 20:28 |
| SpeedEvil | (mercury orbiter) | 20:28 |
| Venemo | how can I connect the N900's RCA video output to a monitor with a VGA input? is there such an adapter? | 20:29 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes. | 20:30 |
| SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CCTV-Composite-S-Video-VGA-BNC-VGA-Converter-Adapter-/160492140781?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item255e13b8ed | 20:30 |
| SpeedEvil | Or similar. | 20:31 |
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| Venemo | will the monitor be able to interpret the signal from the N900? | 20:34 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 20:35 |
| SpeedEvil | The above box converts the composite signal into VGA | 20:35 |
| Venemo | mhm | 20:35 |
| Venemo | SpeedEvil, thanks | 20:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | now that's one cheap piece of digital hardware. Incredible | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | 17 bucks o.O | 20:49 |
| kerio | composite = suxx0rz | 20:49 |
| spiritd | L | 20:50 |
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| jacekowski | MohammadAG: i blame you | 21:00 |
| jacekowski | MohammadAG: i had frequency converter explode today | 21:01 |
| jacekowski | MohammadAG: and it came from israel | 21:01 |
| MohammadAG | damn, you're still alive? | 21:01 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 21:01 |
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| jacekowski | it almost got me | 21:03 |
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| MohammadAG | seriously? | 21:07 |
| jacekowski | yes | 21:08 |
| jacekowski | as in, 10s before explosion i was staring right at it | 21:09 |
| jacekowski | but i moved away to look at scope and then bang | 21:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: damn, you shouldn't mess with such explosive devices | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: better use some surplus Japanese nuclear reactors | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | or proper equipment made in Germany :-D | 21:13 |
| jacekowski | pfffffffffff | 21:14 |
| jacekowski | we use engines from all around the world | 21:15 |
| jacekowski | including germany | 21:15 |
| jacekowski | ( MTU ) | 21:15 |
| jacekowski | and there is only one thing that you can be sure about them, it's not going to work on first try | 21:15 |
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| MohammadAG | I'd be more interested in why it exploded | 21:18 |
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| pupnik_ | do not use that word | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | went kaboom, whatever :) | 21:23 |
| pupnik_ | there are a lot of dumb people | 21:24 |
| pupnik_ | with political power | 21:24 |
| pupnik_ | really idiots | 21:24 |
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| pupnik_ | i mean the best thing about the total orwellian state is that computer people have to run it | 21:25 |
| pupnik_ | and they aren't all bad | 21:25 |
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| pupnik_ | like derf | 21:25 |
| pupnik_ | but people like doc|home are evil | 21:25 |
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| pupnik_ | neocons | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | hey Echeon! I'll ship an exploded view of my fromble tomarrow! :-P | 21:26 |
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| pupnik_ | DocScrutinizer: have you read up on the torture that they used ? | 21:27 |
| pupnik_ | recent leaks | 21:27 |
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| pupnik_ | there's no point in promoting open source | 21:28 |
| pupnik_ | unless it is combined with an awareness of data privacy | 21:28 |
| pupnik_ | and the people who want to spy on you | 21:28 |
| pupnik_ | that includes the israeli attempts to collect all phone connections via amdocs | 21:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actually I'd also like to know what exactly exploded in a freq converter. Was that a 20kW unit, and it simply evaporated a 6^mm copper wire? | 21:29 |
| pupnik_ | what | 21:29 |
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| pupnik_ | DocScrutinizer: we need a fidonet for phones | 21:29 |
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| pupnik_ | fidonet helped bring down the soviet empire | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's called SIP | 21:30 |
| pupnik_ | how does that work without cell towers | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | :shrug: ad-hoc WLAN? | 21:31 |
| pupnik_ | i dunno | 21:31 |
| pupnik_ | we are defeated by genetics anyway | 21:31 |
| pupnik_ | the current social structure promotes procreation by the stupid | 21:31 |
| pupnik_ | so some culling is in order | 21:32 |
| pupnik_ | and will happen | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't care ;-D - I'm an old fart and I have no kids XP | 21:32 |
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| pupnik_ | but before the collapse we have to spread the core information | 21:33 |
| pupnik_ | you can care about whatever you want | 21:33 |
| pupnik_ | no kids means you are much more free to focus | 21:33 |
| pupnik_ | and for your own enlightenment you have to learn about central banking | 21:34 |
| pupnik_ | and visit mises.org | 21:34 |
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| pupnik_ | i'm just setting up my enemies | 21:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | vive l'anarchie - with me as prime anarcheror | 21:37 |
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| pupnik_ | anyway the masses are dog turds | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | they watch tv | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | they go to government schools | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | they are dreck | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | and if they read a newspaper... the opinions are programmed by.... | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | der spiegel | 21:49 |
| pupnik_ | the new york times | 21:50 |
| pupnik_ | the washington post | 21:50 |
| pupnik_ | and the alternative forums are held by gatekeepers | 21:51 |
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| pupnik_ | people who prevent people from seeing the root causes | 21:51 |
| pupnik_ | one of them is here, now | 21:51 |
| pupnik_ | they do it consciously | 21:52 |
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| pupnik_ | machiavellian | 21:52 |
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| tych | how do install the maemo flasher-3.5 from a tar package_ | 22:03 |
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| andre__ | tych, install? where? why? unpack? | 22:06 |
| ThreeM | bähh, firefox 4 still suckes on N900 | 22:08 |
| jacekowski | firefox sucks not only on N0- | 22:09 |
| jacekowski | N900 | 22:09 |
| jacekowski | opera ftw | 22:09 |
| ThreeM | microb is still my favorite | 22:09 |
| jacekowski | it's firefox pretty much | 22:09 |
| ThreeM | sure | 22:10 |
| ThreeM | the engine | 22:10 |
| ThreeM | but still faster than firefox 4, has flash support, runs quite good | 22:10 |
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| OkropNick | MohammadAG: ping | 22:15 |
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| OkropNick | MohammadAG: Can you help me to debug error in 'hildon-sv-notification-daemon' ? | 22:21 |
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| MohammadAG | I think that's closed source | 22:26 |
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| OkropNick | ehhh... | 22:26 |
| pupnik_ | you meet someone who is pro war | 22:26 |
| pupnik_ | punch them in the fucking face | 22:26 |
| pupnik_ | and make it count | 22:26 |
| pupnik_ | break teeth | 22:26 |
| pupnik_ | and go fuck yourself doc|home | 22:27 |
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| tych | Is it possible to use the powerkernel without flashing from a computer _ | 23:11 |
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| ThreeM | just install it from repository?! | 23:14 |
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| Puchaty | how to run community SSu enabler from terminal? | 23:53 |
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