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| DocScrutinizer | grrrr partial eclipse and 100% probability for 100% fog :-( | 00:01 |
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| javispedro | yeah :( | 00:02 |
| javispedro | cloudy here | 00:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: who's admin of wiki.maemo.org? | 00:04 |
| BCMM | DocScrutinizer: partial eclipse where? | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Europe | 00:04 |
| GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, I am. | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: so couldn't you open a FTP access to the http/ directory? (maybe it's marginally more complex than that) | 00:05 |
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| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&group=wikiadmin | 00:06 |
| GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, ah, software admin, not box admin. | 00:06 |
| GAN900 | dneary should have the access for that. | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | any way to dl raw wiki data would be great | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | spidering it with wget is a major PITA, regarding all the special pages and whatnot | 00:07 |
| javispedro | http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Export | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF! duh | 00:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | errr, doesn't support wildcards? ;-D | 00:09 |
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| * javispedro too | 00:10 | |
| javispedro | found http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Export | 00:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | <<The backup script dumpBackup.php dumps all the wiki pages into an XML file. dumpBackup.php only works on MediaWiki 1.5 or newer. You need to have direct access to the server to run this script. << | 00:12 |
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| javispedro | ok, now I know what "-r" option in rfcomm is for. | 00:26 |
| javispedro | thanks, DocScrutinizer (re tty line discipline) | 00:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yw, pleased to help | 00:27 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, got an N900? | 00:31 |
| MohammadAG | (atm) | 00:31 |
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| timeless_xchat | yes | 00:34 |
| timeless_xchat | xchat = n900 | 00:34 |
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| timeless_xchat | only one atm | 00:34 |
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| * timeless_xchat is trying to convince mse2 to install on a wVista system | 00:35 | |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, latest "nightly" should be working | 00:36 |
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| MohammadAG | sigh | 00:38 |
| timeless_xchat | maybe best to ping me in an hour | 00:38 |
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| lardman | evening chaps | 00:42 |
| lardman | so qtm 1.1, do we have any thoughts for how long it might be before it ends up in Extras? | 00:42 |
| timeless_xchat | qtm? | 00:43 |
| lardman | qt mobility | 00:43 |
| timeless_xchat | if i cared, i'd poke an sdk or qt person | 00:44 |
| * timeless_xchat doesn't | 00:44 | |
| timeless_xchat | mohammad: hit me w/ a link | 00:44 |
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| lardman | timeless_xchat: I think it's more of a community ssu question | 00:45 |
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| lardman | is ssu the right work, no idea | 00:45 |
| timeless_xchat | that isn't extras. no? | 00:45 |
| timeless_xchat | s/work/word/ | 00:45 |
| * SpeedEvil imagines lardman saying that in a Father Jack voice. | 00:45 | |
| lardman | well I've got vino on the go, I guess he's more of a spirits sort of chap ;) | 00:46 |
| timeless_xchat | hrm, windows update installed mse1 | 00:46 |
| timeless_xchat | should i give up? | 00:46 |
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| javispedro | give up already | 00:46 |
| javispedro | tought | 00:46 |
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| javispedro | tbh yesterday I set up wvista on a machine and wupdate offered me mse2 | 00:47 |
| timeless_xchat | really? | 00:47 |
| timeless_xchat | did you take it? | 00:47 |
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| javispedro | yeo | 00:48 |
| javispedro | yep | 00:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah - the joy of seeing your bugs be wontfixed. Meh. | 00:48 |
| jacekowski | what now? | 00:48 |
| SpeedEvil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6584 | 00:48 |
| povbot | Bug 6584: GPS geotagged pictures truncate precision of GPS reading (0 decimal places) | 00:48 |
| satmd | haha | 00:48 |
| timeless_xchat | speedevil, just wait for when your bug's deleted | 00:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Admittedly, it's not a hugely serious bug - but it annoys me. | 00:48 |
| lardman | yeah, I just got a notification for that one too | 00:48 |
| satmd | what a stupid bug | 00:49 |
| satmd | QA? | 00:49 |
| jacekowski | that can be fixed probably | 00:49 |
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| andre__ | I still prefer a WONTFIX to silence. ;-/ | 00:49 |
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| lardman | andre__: true, thanks for kicking people :) | 00:50 |
| timeless_xchat | hrm | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | andre: indeed | 00:50 |
| andre__ | well... could be better. :-/ | 00:50 |
| timeless_xchat | what's the current latest sp for vista? | 00:50 |
| javispedro | 2 | 00:51 |
| javispedro | timeless_xchat^^ | 00:51 |
| * lardman skipped Vista thankfully | 00:51 | |
| SpeedEvil | andre: I would have preferred the WONTFIXes a couple of months after the report, but yes. | 00:51 |
| timeless_xchat | javispedro, thanks | 00:51 |
| timeless_xchat | ok, so. i don't get it | 00:51 |
| andre__ | SpeedEvil: me too... I do hope this will change for MeeGo. | 00:51 |
| timeless_xchat | i have wVsp2 | 00:51 |
| SpeedEvil | yup. | 00:51 |
| SpeedEvil | With meego it will be all better! | 00:52 |
| timeless_xchat | why didn't i get mse2 from wu? | 00:52 |
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| * timeless_xchat rotfl @ speedevil | 00:52 | |
| andre__ | SpeedEvil: not all. but some stuff ;-) | 00:52 |
| SpeedEvil | There will also be a NINJAS bug resolution. | 00:52 |
| timeless_xchat | very funny | 00:52 |
| javispedro | timeless_xchat: you have to check the "I want new Microsoft software" in wupdate | 00:52 |
| javispedro | whatever that checkbox is called | 00:52 |
| andre__ | SpeedEvil, usecase? | 00:52 |
| lardman | No Income No Job No Assets? | 00:53 |
| SpeedEvil | andre: Ninjas were dispatched to the reporter, to fix the bug. | 00:53 |
| timeless_xchat | javispedro, i had "recommended updates", "microsoft update", and "software notifications" checked | 00:53 |
| lardman | well that's why the replies take so long, the ninjas killed the maintainers | 00:53 |
| andre__ | SpeedEvil, that's not a resolution but still a waiting for fix (assigned) state | 00:53 |
| timeless_xchat | the only item unchecked was "who can install" | 00:53 |
| javispedro | dunno, maybe it's a region issue | 00:54 |
| andre__ | I wonder where RESOLVED NINJAS it would fit in Nokia's 30 pages "Bug life cycle" guidelines that prove perfectly that common sense cannot be expected in this world | 00:54 |
| timeless_xchat | i sure hope not... but maybe | 00:54 |
| timeless_xchat | andre: *sigh* | 00:55 |
| javispedro | timeless_xchat: can't you install it without wu? | 00:55 |
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| timeless_xchat | javispedro : the last time i tried that, i ended up w/o any av for a week | 00:55 |
| SpeedEvil | andre: I assume above document isn't public? | 00:55 |
| * timeless_xchat is now a bit reluctant | 00:55 | |
| javispedro | ah, the joy :) | 00:55 |
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| timeless_xchat | speedevil : it's probably a .ppt | 00:56 |
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| andre__ | SpeedEvil: of course not, it's unbelievably confidential!!! | 00:56 |
| timeless_xchat | andre: hey, 30 pages ain't bad | 00:56 |
| andre__ | yes, other specs have 200... | 00:57 |
| timeless_xchat | the browser ui spec used to be >300 pages | 00:57 |
| kerio | timeless_xchat: 300 pages for *that*? | 00:57 |
| kerio | er, i mean | 00:57 |
| kerio | good job! | 00:57 |
| timeless_xchat | kerio: for diablo or maybe chinook or the one before | 00:57 |
| lardman | ah the wonders of the ui spes that said scrolling up/down a menu with the arrow keys could not jump to the top when you tried to scroll off the bottom and vice versa | 00:58 |
| timeless_xchat | the biggest accomplishment of our ui designer was getting it down to around 100 pages | 00:58 |
| andre__ | you need billions of pages to define every fscking single feature behavior foolproofly, and fail trying of course | 00:58 |
| timeless_xchat | lardman: arrow key behavior in maemo generally sucked | 00:58 |
| lardman | +1 | 00:59 |
| timeless_xchat | andre: absolutely! | 00:59 |
| timeless_xchat | lardman : but the specification clearly said not to do anything else | 00:59 |
| timeless_xchat | any divergence from it is a bug | 00:59 |
| * alterego contemplates installing windows 7 on his laptop | 00:59 | |
| lardman | I know, and I was told the spec could not be changed as it had been designed by an expert | 00:59 |
| lardman | and I was but a mere user :) | 01:00 |
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| kerio | an "expert"? | 01:00 |
| lardman | well someone who was paid at least ;) | 01:01 |
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| lardman | but this was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, in the time of the 770. I'm sure things are different now | 01:02 |
| crashanddie_ | lardman: last time a customer told me they wouldn't change specific requirements provided by their experts, simply pointing out that I charged as much per day as that person per month usually gave me an (erroneous) advantage | 01:03 |
| lardman | Ah, but my advice was foc | 01:03 |
| GAN900 | lardman, yes, now you're just a chump. :P | 01:03 |
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| lardman | indeed :) | 01:03 |
| crashanddie_ | without a job? | 01:03 |
| jacekowski | ? | 01:03 |
| lardman | I don't get paid to tell Nokia what I think they should change about the 770 UI design, no | 01:04 |
| jacekowski | SpeedEvil: it's camera-ui doing that tagging? | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/mediaplayer | 01:04 |
| crashanddie_ | "A would-be suicide jumper in New York was alive on Monday after leaping from a ninth-floor window but landing in a giant heap of garbage uncollected since the city's massive snowstorm a week ago." | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | don't expect lots of functionality | 01:04 |
| GAN900 | lardman, but it's OK, you're in good company. | 01:05 |
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| lardman | GAN900: I know :) | 01:05 |
| lardman | crashanddie_: a fate worse than death perhaps? ;) | 01:05 |
| jacekowski | MohammadAG: is source available? | 01:05 |
| lardman | jacekowski: yes or something spawned by it to save the jpeg anyway | 01:06 |
| lardman | s/anyway/perhaps not having looked | 01:06 |
| MohammadAG | jacekowski, gitorious | 01:06 |
| MohammadAG | jacekowski, it still lacks mafw source, so again, don't expect a lot | 01:06 |
| MohammadAG | but the UI is almost complete | 01:06 |
| MohammadAG | and the FMTX dialog is 100% cloned | 01:07 |
| timeless_xchat | ooh, it starts! | 01:07 |
| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: can you make the about text static? | 01:08 |
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| MohammadAG | slow startup is not due to Qt being slow, but the fact that it populates the list without tracker for now | 01:08 |
| timeless_xchat | right now, i can select it, which is silly | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, that's not final | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | at all | 01:08 |
| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: sure | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | It's just something to suppress a bug in Qt | 01:08 |
| timeless_xchat | i'm just noting things | 01:08 |
| MohammadAG | (there has to be a menubar on each window, otherwise the mainwindow will show the stacked window's menubar) | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | so I added an About button | 01:09 |
| timeless_xchat | the main view says "0 songs", that's a placeholder? | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | which reminds me | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | I need to add a quick way to update that | 01:09 |
| timeless_xchat | does it play music? | 01:09 |
| MohammadAG | more of an oversized widget now | 01:10 |
| MohammadAG | i.e it can control the current mafw playlist | 01:10 |
| timeless_xchat | the volume button has a square pressed state | 01:10 |
| MohammadAG | and renderer | 01:10 |
| timeless_xchat | which feels broken | 01:10 |
| MohammadAG | the ones started by the stock mediaplayer | 01:10 |
| MohammadAG | hmm? | 01:10 |
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| MohammadAG | it is a square button | 01:10 |
| timeless_xchat | open a music file | 01:10 |
| timeless_xchat | shuffle and repeat have round pressed states | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, what did you mean by the square state? | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | ah | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | it's a toolButton | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | can easily switch it to a QPushButton | 01:11 |
| MohammadAG | should I? | 01:11 |
| timeless_xchat | interesting | 01:11 |
| timeless_xchat | the real media player doesn't do pressed this way at all | 01:12 |
| timeless_xchat | it does a glow state | 01:12 |
| timeless_xchat | roughly painting the icon with a color | 01:12 |
| lardman | s/real and impossible to patch | 01:12 |
| lardman | s/real/ impossible to patch | 01:12 |
| timeless_xchat | instead of changing the button face | 01:12 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 01:12 |
| MohammadAG | yep | 01:12 |
| timeless_xchat | hold on | 01:12 |
| MohammadAG | it uses an icon | 01:12 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, it uses ShufflePressed.png | 01:13 |
| MohammadAG | (the stock player) | 01:13 |
| timeless_xchat | ok, so image viewer uses pressed state | 01:13 |
| timeless_xchat | just like your volume button | 01:13 |
| MohammadAG | and microB :P | 01:13 |
| timeless_xchat | um, no? | 01:14 |
| timeless_xchat | ok, baseline: | 01:14 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, microB uses tool buttons too | 01:14 |
| timeless_xchat | n900, pr1.3, enus.2, digital nature | 01:14 |
| MohammadAG | ah, I'm using Nokia Nseries | 01:14 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, the mainwindow was themed orange right? | 01:15 |
| timeless_xchat | yeah | 01:15 |
| timeless_xchat | please switch to digital nature for a bit? | 01:15 |
| MohammadAG | k | 01:15 |
| timeless_xchat | so... | 01:16 |
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| MohammadAG | switching | 01:16 |
| timeless_xchat | using square pressed buttons (image viewer, microb) | 01:16 |
| MohammadAG | my device isn't the fastest N900 I've seen :P | 01:16 |
| timeless_xchat | (your media player: prev, play, next, volume ) | 01:16 |
| MohammadAG | done | 01:16 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 01:17 |
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| MohammadAG | k, /me notes bug | 01:17 |
| timeless_xchat | uses rounded buttons: your media player (shuffle, repeat) | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | look at the album art | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | at the reflection | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | it's black | 01:17 |
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| timeless_xchat | uses glowing glyphs: nokia media player | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | I should be using the theme's colour | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | I know I know :) | 01:17 |
| timeless_xchat | um, i hate nseries | 01:17 |
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| MohammadAG | the nokia mediaplayer uses two icons | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | one for released, and one for pressed | 01:18 |
| MohammadAG | I've yet to add that | 01:18 |
| timeless_xchat | you have to pay me to switch even ... by the minute! | 01:18 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 01:18 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 01:18 |
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| lardman | timeless_xchat: wip | 01:19 |
| timeless_xchat | oh, i have reasonable rates. 0.02$/minute | 01:19 |
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| timeless_xchat | rounded to the nearest dime :) | 01:19 |
| * SpeedEvil pays for timeless_xchat to switch, for 3 minutes at a time every 181 seconds. | 01:20 | |
| timeless_xchat | speedevil : you'd lose big | 01:20 |
| timeless_xchat | the nearest dime for 3 minutes is 1 dime | 01:21 |
| lardman | and while switched he must continually listen to Justin Bieber on the new media player | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | nearest is 0 | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | I thought a dime was 25 cents | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | oh well. | 01:21 |
| timeless_xchat | that's a quarter! | 01:21 |
| * timeless_xchat sends speedevil to kindergarten | 01:22 | |
| SpeedEvil | meh | 01:22 |
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| lardman | silly currency anyway | 01:22 |
| lardman | ;) | 01:22 |
| timeless_xchat | err, even the euro has dimes | 01:22 |
| GAN900 | Hey, at least it isn't all stupid colors. | 01:22 |
| lardman | also a silly currency :D | 01:22 |
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| timeless_xchat | monopoly money! | 01:22 |
| lardman | GAN900: you've got nothing there, all the same size and colo(u)r, must loose so much money out in clubs | 01:23 |
| javispedro | I have too much monopoly money | 01:23 |
| GAN900 | lardman, you guys must be happy you didn't switch. | 01:23 |
| lardman | GAN900: absolutely | 01:23 |
| GAN900 | lardman, nah, natives can tell the difference no problem. | 01:23 |
| MohammadAG | lardman, don't make me add a if{songMetadata.contains("Justin Bieber")); exit(wtf.toInt); | 01:23 |
| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: ok, it seems like my initial problem was just that your player is slower to start playing music than nokia's | 01:23 |
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| lardman | MohammadAG: I think that's a good idea, in fact an entire blacklist.txt to parse might be a good one | 01:23 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, I could get rid of the function that scans the eMMC for songs, for benchmarking purposes | 01:24 |
| lardman | GAN900: hmm :) | 01:24 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, again, it does a find -name *.mp3 in MyDocs | 01:24 |
| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: do i want to know why that's relevant? | 01:24 |
| MohammadAG | it doesn't query tracker (yet) | 01:24 |
| timeless_xchat | does it do this on the ui thread? | 01:24 |
| MohammadAG | yes, cause find takes more time than a "cat" | 01:25 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 01:25 |
| timeless_xchat | eep? | 01:25 |
| MohammadAG | this is just a placeholder till crashanddie integrates mafw | 01:25 |
| timeless_xchat | ok | 01:25 |
| MohammadAG | when that's done, we'll move it to a separate QThread | 01:25 |
| timeless_xchat | when does it get album art? | 01:25 |
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| timeless_xchat | or is that mafw? | 01:25 |
| MohammadAG | I already added that in | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | play a song with album art in the stock mediaplayer | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | it's already connected to mafw renderer | 01:26 |
| lardman | hmm, does mafw supply the album art? | 01:26 |
| lardman | ah ok | 01:26 |
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| timeless_xchat | ... i'd like to see the art for the song i've tapped | 01:26 |
| timeless_xchat | even if i haven't asked it to play | 01:27 |
| MohammadAG | that's mafw ;) | 01:27 |
| GAN900 | lardman, continentals always complain about it here. I just don't get it. | 01:27 |
| timeless_xchat | same as w/ real media | 01:27 |
| MohammadAG | lardman, surprisingly, it copies the album art to /tmp | 01:27 |
| MohammadAG | yes yes, that's mafw timeless_xchat | 01:27 |
| lardman | GAN900: accept that it would be easier at least | 01:27 |
| timeless_xchat | you pick up a cd/jewel case | 01:27 |
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| timeless_xchat | look at cover, and then play | 01:27 |
| lardman | MohammadAG: I guess that's because it might be on network storage | 01:27 |
| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: how is this mafw? | 01:27 |
| lardman | timeless_xchat: mafw should supply it I think is the point, once it's all hooked up | 01:28 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, mafw supplies song lists, you populate the list with those, when you select a song, I can request the image | 01:28 |
| MohammadAG | mafw is two (or three?) parts, mafw renderer, mafw source, and mafw playlist | 01:28 |
| MohammadAG | only mafw renderer is implemented atm | 01:29 |
| MohammadAG | nicolai added basic support for mafw source, but that's not upstream - yet | 01:29 |
| MohammadAG | lardman, nope, MyDocs | 01:29 |
| timeless_xchat | so... | 01:30 |
| lardman | MohammadAG: yeah in your case, but I was just thinking why bother with the extra copy rather than using the actual file | 01:30 |
| timeless_xchat | trying to upgrade mse to mse2 broke it again | 01:30 |
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| MohammadAG | lardman, no idea, it always does it | 01:30 |
| MohammadAG | actually, /var/tmp | 01:30 |
| MohammadAG | check it, you'll have a mafw-*.jpeg file there | 01:30 |
| lardman | MohammadAG: just seems somewhat inefficient | 01:30 |
| lardman | sure | 01:31 |
| MohammadAG | imo, it's very inefficient | 01:32 |
| MohammadAG | oh well | 01:32 |
| MohammadAG | /var/tmp/mafw-gst-renderer-IMUUOV.jpeg | 01:32 |
| lardman | :) | 01:32 |
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| timeless_xchat | ok, i give up | 01:34 |
| timeless_xchat | this computer is running mse (not mse2), and that's better than nothing | 01:35 |
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| timeless_xchat | mohammadag: can you add a now playing button to the home view? | 01:36 |
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| timeless_xchat | nokia's used the spinning disc/broken audio graph to get there | 01:37 |
| timeless_xchat | totally unintuitive/broken | 01:37 |
| timeless_xchat | but better than nothing | 01:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - on random - some way back to the album view would be nice | 01:38 |
| SpeedEvil | if you support albums | 01:38 |
| timeless_xchat | also, you might want to read about copyright | 01:38 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, indeed, I want one too | 01:39 |
| MohammadAG | but why copyright? | 01:39 |
| timeless_xchat | hrm, nokia's media player has 26 songs | 01:39 |
| timeless_xchat | oh, ... for mozilla, we removed a bunch of copyright statements | 01:40 |
| timeless_xchat | they screw up royally w/ localization | 01:40 |
| timeless_xchat | i'll get a bug reference for you later | 01:40 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, can you check the fmtx dialog? | 01:41 |
| MohammadAG | it's a rewrite | 01:41 |
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| timeless_xchat | how? | 01:41 |
| MohammadAG | NowPlayingWindow -> tap title bar | 01:42 |
| timeless_xchat | why do you only show 9 songs? | 01:42 |
| timeless_xchat | bad padding on "Frequency" | 01:43 |
| MohammadAG | padding? | 01:43 |
| MohammadAG | I only show MP3s, I already said this isn't mafw | 01:44 |
| timeless_xchat | your range is bigger than system (87 v. 88) | 01:44 |
| timeless_xchat | space between left button edge and the "F" in Frequency | 01:45 |
| MohammadAG | blame the Maemo Qt team :P | 01:46 |
| timeless_xchat | ... | 01:46 |
| timeless_xchat | file a bug | 01:46 |
| lardman | :D | 01:46 |
| timeless_xchat | seriously | 01:47 |
| timeless_xchat | it's your job as a dev to complain to your widget provider when it gives you crappy widgets | 01:47 |
| javispedro | it's the widget provider's job to wontfix them! | 01:48 |
| timeless_xchat | and then you should consider working around or fixing the issue upstream | 01:48 |
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| kerio | javispedro: once they do that you have an excuse to get really drunk and violent | 01:48 |
| timeless_xchat | javispedro : they can't do their job until you file a bug! | 01:48 |
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| MohammadAG | wasn't this whole project a result of a bug being wontfixed? :P | 01:52 |
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| sanova | i would like to discuss an alternative mirror for easy-debian images. Now download is too slow. Is it possible? | 02:15 |
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| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536336#c0 is an explanation of why using copyright... makes no sense | 02:21 |
| povbot | Bug 536336: was not found. | 02:21 |
| timeless_mbp | yes dumb bot | 02:21 |
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| kerio | show_bug.cgi?id=13371337 | 02:23 |
| kerio | hm | 02:23 |
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| lolloo | how do you give bot a cookie to eat? | 02:28 |
| lolloo | ~cookie | 02:29 |
| infobot | Hey lolloo, port 223 is cdc - Certificate Distribution Center | 02:29 |
| lolloo | ~cracker | 02:30 |
| infobot | methinks cracker is defined at http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/cracker.html | 02:30 |
| nox- | ~botsnack | 02:31 |
| infobot | thanks, nox- | 02:31 |
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| kerio | ~botsnack | 02:31 |
| infobot | aw, gee, kerio | 02:31 |
| kerio | ^_^ so cute | 02:31 |
| lolloo | ~botsnack | 02:31 |
| lolloo | ~botsnack | 02:32 |
| infobot | lolloo: aw, gee | 02:32 |
| kerio | ~botsnack | 02:32 |
| kerio | ~botsnack | 02:32 |
| infobot | kerio: :) | 02:32 |
| kerio | :DDDDDDD | 02:32 |
| lolloo | hehe | 02:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I told her she'll get fat on too much snacks | 02:32 |
| lolloo | hehehe | 02:32 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: :( | 02:33 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lardman: I already know my currency. Learning a new one isn't "easier". :P | 02:39 |
| * luke-jr peers at GeneralAntilles | 02:40 | |
| GeneralAntilles | luke-jr: creeper. | 02:40 |
| lardman | imagine being a 10 year old and choosing between lots of green notes which are all the same size and colour, and only have different numbers on them, vs different size and colour notes | 02:40 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Size would make me crazy. | 02:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | Besides, the designs are way different. | 02:41 |
| * lardman thinks, apart from the USA-bashing, that different sizes and colours is easier | 02:41 | |
| lardman | sure but still hard when it's dark/dim lighting | 02:41 |
| lardman | which sounds quite bad :) | 02:41 |
| derf | I find the different sizes make it harder to fold into a neat wad in my pocket. | 02:42 |
| derf | But I understand that might be less of a concern than being able to tell bills apart at all if you're blind. | 02:42 |
| lardman | derf: that is certainly true, but we're talking about differentiating between notes here | 02:42 |
| lardman | s/blind/blind drunk | 02:42 |
| lardman | bit of a difference between $10 and $100 ;) | 02:43 |
| derf | No one over here uses bills over $20. | 02:43 |
| derf | Well, not real people anyway. | 02:43 |
| lardman | ah well perhaps that's my problem being a tourist | 02:43 |
| alterego | Do we have a GPS cellid logger yet? | 02:43 |
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| lardman | at least i can tell the $1 notes apart as they are almost falling apart normally | 02:44 |
| alterego | Actually .. | 02:44 |
| alterego | Erm, yeah, do we? | 02:45 |
| MohammadAG | what's a cellid logger got to do with GPS? | 02:45 |
| alterego | It would allow us to ascertain the location of cells | 02:45 |
| alterego | So we can catalog cell towers with rough gps coverage | 02:46 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, strace the location daemon? :P | 02:46 |
| lardman | speaking of cellids, this was interesting to read, I hope it doesn't damage the reputation of opensource phones: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12094227 | 02:46 |
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| alterego | lardman: I've actually just bought a phone compatible with osmocombb | 02:46 |
| lardman | :) | 02:47 |
| alterego | lardman: reminds me of the days when you could pick up your neighbours phone calls with a simple receiver :D | 02:47 |
| SpeedEvil | you still can | 02:47 |
| SpeedEvil | decoding them is harder | 02:48 |
| alterego | Sure, I meant analog, before dect :P | 02:48 |
| alterego | Hell, you could do the same to the first cell phones iirc | 02:48 |
| alterego | That were analog right? | 02:48 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 02:48 |
| alterego | Just cell enabled walky talkies basically. | 02:48 |
| nox- | dect can be mitm'd too... | 02:48 |
| alterego | nox-: I don't doubt, and I bet it's well easy. | 02:49 |
| nox- | hehe | 02:49 |
| alterego | This on the other hand puts the ability of anyone with the will into basically being able to track anyone by their phone number. | 02:49 |
| nox- | yeah | 02:49 |
| lardman | hmm, /me realises he doesn't actually have tomorrow off work, bed time | 02:49 |
| lardman | night chaps | 02:49 |
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| alterego | And with a bit more money/effort they'd be able to listen into peoples calls live and receive their sms messages for about 2k | 02:50 |
| alterego | Which is pennies .. | 02:50 |
| * MohammadAG wants an open source N900 modem driver :P | 02:50 | |
| alterego | Wont work with 3G calls though | 02:51 |
| nox- | and then there was that other talk about baseband gsm security holes... | 02:51 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: 3G jammer | 02:51 |
| alterego | Heh | 02:51 |
| SpeedEvil | most carriers have 2g/3g | 02:51 |
| alterego | yeah, | 02:51 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, most people I know are 2G | 02:51 |
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| MohammadAG | and by most I mean only 2 or 3 have 3G | 02:52 |
| alterego | It'll be interesting to see if this is the beginning of surge of cellular security. | 02:52 |
| alterego | Because 3G is basically just a stage up from 2G and a lot of the tech is identical. | 02:52 |
| MohammadAG | and 4G is a stage up from 3G? :P | 02:52 |
| * alterego writes a plugin for columbus to do cellid logging | 02:52 | |
| pupnik | this is good | 02:53 |
| MohammadAG | the matrix is collapsing | 02:53 |
| alterego | pupnik: ? | 02:53 |
| nox- | oh and there was one about gsm geolocation and android security too (which also had a way to query google apis to get locations of cellids) | 02:53 |
| pupnik | since governments track people by their phones, people should be able to track phones as well | 02:53 |
| alterego | nox-: yeah, I was thinking we could do the same with ovi maps ;) | 02:53 |
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| MohammadAG | ovi, haha | 02:53 |
| nox- | :) | 02:53 |
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| alterego | Well, at least for me, ovi maps seems to be able to coarse locate me by cellid straight away .. | 02:54 |
| alterego | It's how the agps works | 02:54 |
| pupnik | since the privacy battle is lost. let's support the openness battle | 02:54 |
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| alterego | pupnik: :D | 02:54 |
| nox- | mh :) | 02:54 |
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| alterego | Hey, I'm all for it, if we could blow open the cellular network then maybe the system and handsets could just evolve into computers. | 02:55 |
| alterego | Using SIP and such over the mobile carrier and effectively turn the GSM/Â3G etc networks into wifi hotspots ;) | 02:55 |
| pupnik | yes, like that - somehow. | 02:55 |
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| alterego | I also read today about a CUDA accelerated WPA/2 brute force cracker. | 02:57 |
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| SpeedEvil | wpa2 passphrase cracker? | 02:58 |
| pupnik | "Juniper said that one Fortune 15 company discovered that 5% - or 25,000 - of its mobile devices were infected with malware." | 02:58 |
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| alterego | SpeedEvil: PSK yeah | 02:58 |
| nox- | mobile devices include windows laptops? | 02:58 |
| alterego | Hahah | 02:59 |
| alterego | nox-: I'd imagine that was their entire stat ;) | 02:59 |
| ds3 | stop relying on L2 encryption | 02:59 |
| alterego | ds3: ? | 02:59 |
| nox- | djb's talk was also... interesting | 03:00 |
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| ds3 | alterego: encrypt on the app level... screw WPA/WEP and all the other crap | 03:02 |
| ds3 | remember you are on a broadcast network; encrypt your apps | 03:03 |
| nox- | (he basically proposed an encrypted tcp replacement on top of udp together with dnscurve to replace https) | 03:03 |
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| alterego | ds3: I agree with that from a personal security perspective, my comms are usually sent through socks to a remote server. But that doesn't stop people breaking your wifis | 03:04 |
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| alterego | btw, just got the ephemeris data and full transaction dump to supl.nokia.com | 03:05 |
| alterego | Should have cellid query in that and lat lon somewhere. | 03:05 |
| MohammadAG | CUDA, isn't that NVidia? | 03:05 |
| * alterego pokes. | 03:05 | |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: yes, it's a parallel/vector processing language kind of C like | 03:05 |
| MohammadAG | it's a language? o_O | 03:06 |
| MohammadAG | I thought it was some feature in their gfx cards | 03:06 |
| alterego | It makes parallel computations extremely efficient and allows you to write computationally intesive code on your graphics cards GPU | 03:06 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: it is | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, both? | 03:06 |
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| MohammadAG | how does a GPU help crack a WPA? | 03:07 |
| alterego | Because you can use it for number crunching | 03:07 |
| alterego | And it's a lot better at doing it than your CPU | 03:08 |
| alterego | It's basically a parallel processing set of FP DSP cores | 03:08 |
| alterego | It's the future maaaan. | 03:08 |
| MohammadAG | interesting | 03:09 |
| alterego | Modern GPUs have >512 cores iirc | 03:09 |
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| alterego | Think I've got it. | 03:12 |
| alterego | ~@. | 03:13 |
| infobot | i heard @ is where it's at | 03:13 |
| alterego | Hah | 03:13 |
| alterego | Erm, think I've cracked it ;) | 03:13 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, do you think something like the nokia mediaplayer's bottom right spinning animated widget would be better done with QTimer or a timeline thingy? | 03:17 |
| alterego | A timer | 03:18 |
| MohammadAG | was thinking of making it pop up like the buttons in columbus too :P | 03:18 |
| alterego | Heh | 03:19 |
| alterego | Well, it's supposed to be an indicator, so I wouldn't :P | 03:19 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, good point | 03:20 |
| MohammadAG | noticed that nokia's mediaplayer make an instance of it on each window | 03:21 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder if there's a flag in Qt so it's always visible on all windows | 03:21 |
| pupnik | this would be cool - http://i.imgur.com/3al7Q.jpg archos a70s plus psion netbook keyboard - in a leather case | 03:26 |
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| * alterego wonders if he's killed supl.nokia.com | 03:41 | |
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| MohammadAG | lol | 03:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe supl.nokia.com "killed" you | 03:44 |
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| MohammadAG | he looks alive to me | 03:45 |
| MohammadAG | unless they killed his alter ego | 03:45 |
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| ssylee | has anyone here encountered a situation with their nokia internet tablet's LCD being damaged? | 03:47 |
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| comawhite | i wish there was a console version of sms | 04:04 |
| comawhite | since I can ssh in to my phone | 04:04 |
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| MohammadAG | there is one on tmo | 04:05 |
| MohammadAG | it's in python | 04:05 |
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| pupnik | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS | 04:06 |
| comawhite | thank you | 04:06 |
| pupnik | that was 15 seconds with google. you should be kicked | 04:07 |
| comawhite | anal much? | 04:07 |
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| pupnik | it helps to not be a lazy idiot, comawhite | 04:08 |
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| comawhite | i wasn't dildo | 04:08 |
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| comawhite | i did n900 console sms dur | 04:09 |
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| alterego | Well, I've implemented the start of routing infrastructure into Columbus | 04:12 |
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| alterego | Just need to create some forms for creating chains of waypoints to create a route manually. | 04:12 |
| alterego | Then V1 RC1 will be ready. | 04:12 |
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| nox- | you're writing another mapping app? | 04:13 |
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| alterego | nox-: nope | 04:14 |
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| alterego | nox-: well, not until V2 .. | 04:14 |
| nox- | heh | 04:14 |
| alterego | nox-: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/index.html | 04:14 |
| alterego | It's more in the vein of a handheld GPS | 04:14 |
| alterego | It's not meant to be a Tom Tom replacement or anything, there's plenty of those .. | 04:14 |
| nox- | i c | 04:15 |
| alterego | But inevitably, in the future I will probably add some mapping capability, as that seems to be what everyone wants. | 04:16 |
| alterego | Then I guess it can join all those other lame mapping applications. | 04:16 |
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| nox- | :) | 04:17 |
| nox- | cloudgps doesnt look too bad (unless you want routing) | 04:17 |
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| alterego | Oh yeah, my maps will definitely be hw accelerated ;) | 04:18 |
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| nox- | :) | 04:18 |
| alterego | I also want to use SRTM data | 04:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ummm dead birds falling out of the skies in Arkansas? :-o | 04:20 |
| nox- | yeah and 3.something quake in uk... | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | damn what strange tests is US army running? | 04:21 |
| alterego | Don't forget those fish in ark too | 04:22 |
| alterego | And the floods in Australia | 04:22 |
| alterego | And the blizzards in the deep south :D | 04:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | floods in Australia aren't really exciting | 04:22 |
| alterego | Neah, they get all the excitement, | 04:22 |
| alterego | Floods, fires blah | 04:22 |
| alterego | Though, Moscow had fires aswell :/ | 04:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | but 1000s of birds falling out of the sky dead, it's a bit strange | 04:23 |
| nox- | that it is | 04:23 |
| alterego | Yeah, and apparently the fish too. | 04:23 |
| pupnik | once hundreds of fish fell out of the sky near my house. a waterspout sucked them up from a lake | 04:24 |
| alterego | Yeah, | 04:24 |
| alterego | Quite common, fish raining. | 04:24 |
| alterego | Happened in London once. | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | wonder in which lake such a spout could suck up dead birds :-P | 04:24 |
| alterego | Hahah | 04:25 |
| alterego | Maybe it was the oil spill ;) | 04:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | ohh yeah | 04:25 |
| nox- | or hail? | 04:25 |
| alterego | Possibly ../ | 04:25 |
| MohammadAG | <DocScrutinizer> but 1000s of birds falling out of the sky dead, it's a bit strange | 04:26 |
| MohammadAG | what? | 04:26 |
| radec | yeah just heard that on npr | 04:27 |
| radec | strange | 04:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you'd think hail of the size needed to instantly kill birds would have been noticed on ground level | 04:28 |
| nox- | i could have melted further down into rain... | 04:29 |
| radec | DocScrutinizer, lol | 04:29 |
| nox- | err it | 04:29 |
| radec | you would think | 04:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | needs a damn hot hairdryer to melt a hail grain^H^H ball of the size to kill a bird, on its way down from 2000, maybe 3000m to ground | 04:30 |
| nox- | yeah maybe... | 04:31 |
| alterego | It's pretty unlikely tbh :P | 04:31 |
| nox- | but what else could it have been? | 04:31 |
| alterego | More likely static electricity from the clouds just killed them all. | 04:31 |
| alterego | Muahahahah | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | hahahahaha | 04:31 |
| nox- | *g* | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | radar or other microwave sounds more plausible to me | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | or poison | 04:32 |
| nox- | hmm | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | when if not at new year's fireworks you could fire a rocket with some antrax or dunno what, and nobody would notice | 04:33 |
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| nox- | :( | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, new year is a few days ago | 04:33 |
| radec | npr said there was loud explosion type sounds heard and then the birds which was a type that normally nest at night started flying around and running into things and dying from internal bleeding from hitting things so hard. | 04:34 |
| nox- | oh | 04:34 |
| MohammadAG | aren't they from angry birds? | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | radec: sounds odd | 04:35 |
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| alterego | Hah, yeah, all the birds that fall in the name of duty killing those bitch pigs suddenly materialised ontop of ark | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehehe | 04:37 |
| MohammadAG | I bet that wasn't a 3 star round then | 04:37 |
| alterego | Heh | 04:37 |
| alterego | Well, if it was I'm sure there'd be more than a few thousand. | 04:37 |
| alterego | Wasn't it all one particular breed of bird as well? | 04:38 |
| alterego | Like it is with the fish? | 04:38 |
| MohammadAG | angry fish, hmm, rovio need to up their game | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | alterego: not from the 3s video on TV | 04:38 |
| * alterego remembers James Pond | 04:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer | looked like 2 or 3 different kind of birds on that street, with not really so much nearby where a bird could run into at night | 04:39 |
| alterego | Hrm, m'kay | 04:39 |
| alterego | I'm sure it's some kind of poison in the food chain. | 04:39 |
| alterego | Possibly water. | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, activated by a special detonation sound | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 04:40 |
| alterego | Seems like the most likely explaination to me, but then, I guess we'll find out after they properly examine the birds. | 04:40 |
| alterego | Activated by electric hail stones actually :P | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | let's see what wikileaks will tell us about it in 2 years XD | 04:40 |
| alterego | Created by bitch pigs :D | 04:40 |
| alterego | Hahah | 04:41 |
| nox- | haha | 04:41 |
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| nox- | http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/01/03/navy-to-investigate-commanders-vulgar-videos/ | 04:43 |
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| nox- | if picard had known... :) | 04:44 |
| * DocScrutinizer thinks about a modified EMP bomb (detonator-coppercylinder-type), fitted to a microwave emitter to convert the detonation's energy in last copper winding (MegaAmps, KV) | 04:45 | |
| nox- | o_O | 04:45 |
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| alterego | For some insane reason I'm thinking of implementing a DBUS API for Columbus .. | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | to do what? | 04:51 |
| alterego | To signal certain events happening, like a waypoint being created/updated/deleted or reached. | 04:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | (not that a proper dbus api is anything bad at all - I just remember the times where almost all my apps had a REXX interface) | 04:51 |
| nox- | haha | 04:51 |
| alterego | Well, it'd be useful if I wanted to make libcolumbus into a service. | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I personally prefer scripting hooks, but yeah | 04:52 |
| alterego | Then have the UI talk through DBUS, kind of like how mafw and media player work. | 04:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | (hooks) an execve() is the most generic communication interface you could have, I think. Assuming you pass the proper arguments | 04:55 |
| alterego | Not sure what you mean. | 04:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | system("waypoint-reached.sh", waypoint-id, context-id, foo, bar) | 04:56 |
| alterego | urgh | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | for dbus you could call dbus-send in waypoint-reached.sh | 04:57 |
| alterego | seriously? | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you have a system without dbus, you can easily modify waypoint-reached.sh to your new needs | 04:58 |
| alterego | Why don't I just create 'waypoint-reached.d' and call run parts :P | 04:58 |
| kerio | not enuff redirection | 04:58 |
| alterego | Right, I can see that. | 04:58 |
| alterego | But I'm not going to be running on a device that doesn't have dbus. | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, of course. Always a question of design goals | 04:59 |
| alterego | Not to mention, that's not portable to symbian or windows | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, not? | 05:00 |
| kerio | clearly we need a running daemon that takes messages and dispatches them | 05:00 |
| kerio | we could call it dbus | 05:00 |
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| alterego | Heh | 05:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you're not generally interested in a uniform anonymous messaging, not always | 05:02 |
| alterego | ffs, how do you get lat/lon from google maps | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp on small clearly defines systems it's usually cruft | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | though otoh e.g CANBUS is exactly that | 05:05 |
| kerio | yeah, it would be as stupid as using a full-fledged sw audio mixer that has performance problems on desktop computers on a phone | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | HEHE | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-P? | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | -? | 05:06 |
| kerio | no :< | 05:06 |
| kerio | imad | 05:06 |
| nox- | alterego, upper right corner above the map, `Link'? | 05:06 |
| kerio | i srsly mad | 05:06 |
| alterego | nox-: yeah, using that :/ | 05:09 |
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| alterego | Cool, that werked | 05:11 |
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| alterego | Heh, I might write a small tool that allows you to paste in google may urls and it creates waypoints. | 05:13 |
| alterego | s/may/map | 05:13 |
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| alterego | I'm gonna miss conboy | 05:29 |
| alterego | I might hack together a Qt clone | 05:30 |
| alterego | Qornboy | 05:30 |
| alterego | QtBoy | 05:30 |
| * alterego chuckles | 05:30 | |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | heh, reading maemo info center with microb is a ROYAL PITA | 05:43 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, what's wrong with conboy? | 05:44 |
| Arkenoi | (btw desktop tomboy sucks badly) | 05:45 |
| alterego | Arkenoi: it's not ready for MeeGo or HArmatten/Meego | 05:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | (""this website optimized for ms explorer, as we thought if you could browse here using linux then you probably wouldn't need to come here at all"") | 05:45 |
| alterego | And it's one of my most used apps on the N900 currently. | 05:45 |
| alterego | I'd very much miss it :( | 05:45 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, sounds bad, not because of conboy exactly but just as indication we have broken apis there. what exactly prevents it from being run there? | 05:46 |
| alterego | conboy is Gtk, MeeGo and Harmatten are Qt | 05:46 |
| alterego | Hence me thinking of knocking up a QtBoy ;) | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~conboy | 05:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thought as much | 05:47 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, i've been told there still will be gtk on meego, at least in n9 release, is it wrong? if yes, it damn sucks | 05:48 |
| alterego | It'll be available as much as it may be in the repo to be used as a dep | 05:48 |
| Arkenoi | (as a legacy api but still present) | 05:48 |
| alterego | But it wont be integrated with the system or compositor. | 05:48 |
| alterego | So there's no way to know how well Gtk apps will work. | 05:48 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, does it really make things different? | 05:49 |
| alterego | And there's also a rumour going around that Harmatten has been discontinued. | 05:49 |
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| alterego | Which mean MeeGo will be next and that doesn't have to maintain any Maemo backward compatibility. | 05:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | NO? | 05:50 |
| Arkenoi | damn it sucks. i'd prefer n9 running harmattan "community release" instead | 05:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | methought that's been the big promise | 05:50 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer51: call me pessimistic, but it's a promise that can go out of the window if they scrap Harmatten. | 05:51 |
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| Arkenoi | ah, this is the way they try to force developers to write symbian-compatible qt software. it is not possible to "force" developers to anything, they will just say "fuck nokia" and switch to android. | 05:52 |
| alterego | Maybe, | 05:52 |
| alterego | I'm happy to use Qt | 05:52 |
| alterego | I like using Qt | 05:53 |
| nox- | android uses gtk? | 05:53 |
| alterego | And I'm happy to implement/port apps I want to Qt | 05:53 |
| Arkenoi | qt is ok as long as there are all familliar backends in place as well. and gtk too. | 05:53 |
| alterego | Which you generally don't get across multiple OSs :) | 05:54 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, and we do not need to. symbian touch is dead shit, screw it. | 05:55 |
| alterego | It's not dead yet | 05:56 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, is there a way to hide() all contents of a layout? | 05:56 |
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| Arkenoi | bot it is spreading cadaver poison and bad smell already | 05:56 |
| alterego | And I'm not just talking about Symbian, I'd really like my app to run on Maemo, MeeGo, Symbian, Desktop Linux, Server Linux and Windows | 05:56 |
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| alterego | Not OS X though | 05:56 |
| alterego | That can fuck off. | 05:56 |
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| * alterego chuckles. | 05:56 | |
| MohammadAG | lol | 05:56 |
| Arkenoi | alterego, gtk will do as well | 05:57 |
| alterego | Arkenoi: don't make me laugh :P | 05:57 |
| alterego | Gtk is a complete PITA on anything other than UNIX like OSs | 05:57 |
| alterego | Also, Qt is a nice complete framework that supports a lot more than just UI | 05:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: hide=true? | 05:58 |
| alterego | Where as gobject based libs and frameworks would all need to be ported to all platforms. | 05:58 |
| MohammadAG | screw you, I was just typing that | 05:58 |
| MohammadAG | ( @ alterego :P) | 05:58 |
| alterego | And it'd get horrible. | 05:58 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, hmm, not the layout itself | 05:59 |
| MohammadAG | the contents of it | 05:59 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: you want to hide all elements in a Layout? | 05:59 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, yes | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooh | 05:59 |
| alterego | Why not the whole layout btw? | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | what it 'content'? | 05:59 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, cause we're switching views | 05:59 |
| MohammadAG | i.e I need to hide 4 widgets and show 1 | 05:59 |
| alterego | Hrm. | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yeah | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | do that | 05:59 |
| MohammadAG | Album view; artist view; song view etc | 06:00 |
| alterego | Why don't you stick all of that into a QWidget and hide that instead? | 06:00 |
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| alterego | Then have your layout contain just that qwidget | 06:00 |
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| MohammadAG | I can hide each one manually | 06:00 |
| alterego | And then call that qwidget "songview" or something. | 06:00 |
| MohammadAG | I was wondering if there was a way to do it in one step | 06:00 |
| alterego | Then do, songwidget->hide() ^.^ | 06:01 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, I'm doing that, but there are 5 widgets to hide()/show() | 06:01 |
| alterego | I think you're missing my point. | 06:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 06:01 |
| alterego | In columbus, my views are a single widget, that widget has maybe a layout with widgets in it. | 06:01 |
| alterego | If I didn't have my swipe gesture support, I could hide the current view and show the next view. | 06:02 |
| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/4yh5w5cQ <-- this isn't exactly clean code :P | 06:02 |
| alterego | You don't even need a root layout, you can just set geometry. | 06:02 |
| alterego | Yes, that's pretty ugly :P | 06:03 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, it's not ugly itself, the fact that I need to do it 5 times is | 06:05 |
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| alterego | hrm | 06:06 |
| alterego | You see, when you add a widget to a layout, the widget is still the child of whatever you set the parent to (presumable the parent widget) | 06:06 |
| alterego | And layouts just control the geometry of the child widget. | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you set parent to hidden | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | ... | 06:07 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer51: would hide everything and wouldn't allow him to show his _other_ children. | 06:07 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, here's the UI btw http://i54.tinypic.com/11jrczb.jpg | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | that'S what I thought, yeah | 06:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh wouldn't :-S | 06:08 |
| alterego | foreach(QObject *target, layout->widget()->children() {QWidget *widget = qobject_cast<QWidget*>(target); if(widget != NULL) widget.hide(); } | 06:09 |
| alterego | That will probably do what you want. | 06:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | I always thought a hidden widget with childs is truely invisible and wouldn't interfere with other visible overlapping widgets | 06:09 |
| alterego | With an extra brace. | 06:09 |
| alterego | s/dren()/dren())/ | 06:09 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer51: the parent widget in this case is the parent of both of his views widgets. | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | then he needs a different layout | 06:10 |
| alterego | He needs to split it into two seperate widgets :P | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's what I said, no? | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | widget-frame-or-whatever->child-button1; ->child-button2... | 06:11 |
| alterego | Well, layouts are something else. | 06:11 |
| alterego | I guess it's just a mixture of terminology. | 06:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | widget-frame-or-whatever.visible=false | 06:11 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer51: yeah, that's the basic idea. | 06:12 |
| MohammadAG | /home/mohammad/scratchbox/mediaplayer-build-maemo-test/../test/mediaplayer/musicwindow.cpp:262: error: request for member 'hide' in 'widget', which is of non-class type 'QWidget*' | 06:12 |
| alterego | widget->hide() | 06:13 |
| alterego | Sorry ;) | 06:13 |
| alterego | It is 4:15am .. | 06:13 |
| MohammadAG | Tue Jan 4 06:13:34 IST 2011 | 06:13 |
| MohammadAG | lame excuse :P | 06:13 |
| alterego | You're going to have more fun showing them tbh. | 06:14 |
| MohammadAG | why's that? | 06:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2011-01-04 05:14 | 06:14 |
| alterego | Because all your widgets have the same parent, you're hiding all of them and showing all of them if you use that code. | 06:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | or (EEEWW) Di. Jan 4 05:14:44 2011 | 06:14 |
| alterego | How can you distinguish between widgets in one view or the other? | 06:15 |
| MohammadAG | I'm secretly Chuck Norris | 06:15 |
| alterego | Seriously, split it up into two seperate "view" widgets and just show and hide them respectively. | 06:15 |
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| alterego | It _will_ save you pain :P | 06:15 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure what this is about :P | 06:16 |
| MohammadAG | I need to hide 4/5, and show 1/5 | 06:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | not only you, also all the poor fellow coders ;-D | 06:16 |
| alterego | http://images2.cpcache.com/nocache/product/343170462v2147483647_480x480_Front.jpg | 06:16 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: at the moment you do, but what if we want to change that 1/5 to 2/6 ? | 06:16 |
| MohammadAG | you weren't kidding about the 4:15 part | 06:16 |
| MohammadAG | Segmentation fault | 06:16 |
| alterego | Hah | 06:17 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, I don't, only 1 widget can fit in 800x480 | 06:17 |
| alterego | Meh | 06:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | sigh | 06:17 |
| alterego | Okay, well, stick the 4/5 into another widget and then you're dealing with 1/2 | 06:17 |
| alterego | easy | 06:17 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, open the stock mediaplayer | 06:18 |
| alterego | Which is basically exactly what we've been telling you to do. | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, it won't work that way | 06:18 |
| alterego | okay, it's open | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | go to songs | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | Music, whatever | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | click the title bar | 06:18 |
| alterego | m'hmm | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | you'll see song views | 06:18 |
| alterego | yes | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | click one, a widget is hidden, and another is shown | 06:18 |
| MohammadAG | I have 5 widgets in the layout | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | I need to hide 4, and show 1 of them | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | depending on which button the user clicks | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | they're not the same 4 all the time | 06:19 |
| alterego | They're probably deleted and added dynamically. | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | so I wanted something like layout->contents().hide() and ui->oneWidget->show() | 06:19 |
| alterego | Do you know how I'd do it though? | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | no | 06:19 |
| MohammadAG | (about the deletion part) | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | they're not deleted | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: FIRST of ALL: hide all 5, then enable the one you want | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, that's what I want to do! | 06:20 |
| alterego | How do you know what it is doing? | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> so I wanted something like layout->contents().hide() and ui->oneWidget->show() | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | write a function that hides them all | 06:20 |
| alterego | It's fucking closed source. | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, hah | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | sec, lemme explain that :P | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | select album view | 06:20 |
| MohammadAG | you'll see it populates the list | 06:21 |
| MohammadAG | and rapes the CPU while doing so | 06:21 |
| alterego | yes | 06:21 |
| MohammadAG | now switch to something else | 06:21 |
| MohammadAG | and switch back to album view | 06:21 |
| MohammadAG | they won't be gone | 06:21 |
| MohammadAG | and it won't repopulate | 06:21 |
| alterego | m'hmm | 06:21 |
| alterego | Probably because the model isn't being reloaded. | 06:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess you have a canvas to display all the covers, and you simply hide() that | 06:22 |
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| alterego | You do realise that the album view is just a GtkIconView thing. | 06:22 |
| alterego | And they're probably all coming out of a single model. | 06:22 |
| alterego | Or maybe there are several models, "songs", "albums" etc. | 06:22 |
| MohammadAG | does it matter? :P | 06:22 |
| alterego | But it's the model that needs to cache, the view (if coded right) only displays what is being displayed. | 06:23 |
| alterego | Infact, it looks like it does recreate the widget. | 06:23 |
| alterego | Because the position in the list is changed. | 06:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, A PITA | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp for going back in directory tree etc | 06:24 |
| alterego | IT does remember the row, but it doesn't remember the exact y position. | 06:24 |
| MohammadAG | it does for me | 06:24 |
| MohammadAG | maybe it was still populating for you? | 06:24 |
| alterego | Yeah, it remembers the row, but it doesn't remember the exact y position. | 06:25 |
| alterego | Which makes me think it recreates the widget. | 06:25 |
| MohammadAG | it does, I left it on the i's dot :P | 06:25 |
| MohammadAG | check again | 06:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | use HFM on a dir with many files and subdirs, enter one subdir, go back ---> back to top of list >:-((( | 06:25 |
| alterego | HJahah, just noticed another bug | 06:26 |
| alterego | If you scroll half way through your albums, switch to artists, then switch back. | 06:26 |
| alterego | Don't touch the screen and just look at the albumns., | 06:26 |
| alterego | IT displays the top of the list, even though it's acutally scrolled half way down. | 06:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's all such a pile of crap | 06:27 |
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| alterego | Then when you start to scroll it redisplays proper list area. | 06:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | if only HFM did at least that | 06:27 |
| MohammadAG | ah, the album view | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, only the album view doesn't remember y position | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | the rest do | 06:28 |
| alterego | I told you, it _does_ remember y position. | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | maybe it only sets geometry to 0 instead of hiding? | 06:28 |
| alterego | It's just when you go back for some reason it fucks it up. | 06:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | ah | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | k | 06:28 |
| MohammadAG | now back to the problem at hand? :P | 06:28 |
| alterego | Go back, look at the right side and note where the scroll indicator is. | 06:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | setting geometry to 0,0 is not a nice idea | 06:29 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, I tried to scroll, it went to y and back again | 06:29 |
| alterego | Then try and scroll and you'll see it undo its' fuck up :P | 06:29 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, it's not our mediaplayer | 06:29 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, yup, noticed | 06:29 |
| alterego | Anyhow | 06:29 |
| alterego | Yes, your issue. | 06:29 |
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| alterego | It segfaulted :P | 06:29 |
| alterego | Run it through a debugger :D | 06:29 |
| alterego | fuck it's 4:30 now >:( | 06:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | 5:30 | 06:30 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, I did | 06:30 |
| MohammadAG | it segfaulted on the foreach line (I split your code into lines, since having it on one line is kinda... can't find the right word) | 06:30 |
| alterego | I didn't want to spam :P | 06:30 |
| alterego | I just typed it in from memory :P | 06:31 |
| MohammadAG | foreach(QObject *target, ui->songsLayout->widget()->children()) | 06:31 |
| * alterego shudders. | 06:31 | |
| DocScrutinizer | waaaaaaAAAaaaah | 06:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | please say this isn't what it looks like! | 06:32 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer: ? | 06:33 |
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| MohammadAG | birds falling in germany? | 06:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're not running over all song objects of the songs list? | 06:33 |
| MohammadAG | or is it the piglets this time? | 06:33 |
| MohammadAG | no, they're 5 widgets | 06:33 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://i54.tinypic.com/11jrczb.jpg | 06:34 |
| MohammadAG | I need to hide all 5 widgets in that, and show one | 06:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pheeew, you scared the shit outa me | 06:34 |
| MohammadAG | I'm surprised there's no contents() method | 06:35 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: doesn't work like that unfortunately. | 06:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can't find any bug in HMP, in all-albums view | 06:35 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, scroll so that half an album art isn't visible, switch views and switch back | 06:36 |
| * MohammadAG asks on #qt | 06:36 | |
| DocScrutinizer | clicking an album, the whole canvas slides left and song list of that album slides in from right | 06:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, half of AN album art? I got 3 rows of 5 here, 2 of them with cover art cut half | 06:37 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer: we're not talking about selecting an album, go to the menu and change view, then change back again. | 06:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | chnage view to what? | 06:38 |
| alterego | Anything, then change back. | 06:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | oooh | 06:38 |
| alterego | album to artist view | 06:38 |
| MohammadAG | <Xenakios> iterate over the widgets <-- isn't that what you were doing? lol | 06:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 06:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | confirmed | 06:39 |
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| alterego | Yes, that's what I said. | 06:39 |
| alterego | There must be someting wrong with your crap. | 06:39 |
| alterego | instead of doing layout->widget()->children() | 06:40 |
| alterego | Use: this->childre() | 06:40 |
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| lolloo | MohammadAG, this your media player? does it support mms:// protocol video streaming ? | 06:41 |
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| MohammadAG | lolloo, we'll worry about that later | 06:42 |
| lolloo | alright. | 06:42 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, thinking of making a function that just hides all widgets | 06:43 |
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| alterego | Yes, do that :P | 06:43 |
| alterego | You know what I think you should do :P | 06:44 |
| alterego | And I've told you how to do what you want to do. | 06:44 |
| alterego | Why not do what you're already doing :P | 06:44 |
| * alterego chuckles | 06:44 | |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: and you say you can't place those 5 in http://i54.tinypic.com/11jrczb.jpg into a container widget or frame? | 06:45 |
| alterego | He can, he's just not going to :P | 06:45 |
| alterego | They already are. | 06:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | or you can't place a second container widget or frame on top of that? | 06:45 |
| MohammadAG | actually, I did place them in a QWidget, found no way to hide the widgets then | 06:46 |
| alterego | You hide the qwidget you placed them in. | 06:46 |
| MohammadAG | but that hides the container, not the widgets themselves | 06:47 |
| alterego | Provided you've parented them properly. | 06:47 |
| alterego | IT does it you do it properly! | 06:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, centralwidget | 06:47 |
| MohammadAG | I... see | 06:47 |
| * alterego chuckles | 06:47 | |
| MohammadAG | then I need to show the QWidget again and show the widget I want? | 06:48 |
| alterego | No | 06:48 |
| alterego | Then you just show the qwidget you want. | 06:48 |
| alterego | Why reshow the ones you've just hidden? | 06:48 |
| alterego | You're turning 4/5 into 1/2 | 06:48 |
| alterego | geddit? | 06:48 |
| MohammadAG | so wait, if a widget is a child of another widget, and I hide the parent, then the children are hidden? | 06:49 |
| MohammadAG | and if I show a child, then it'll show even if the parent is hidden? | 06:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | YES :-D | 06:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | NO | 06:49 |
| MohammadAG | <alterego> Then you just show the qwidget you want. | 06:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: the idea is to have overlapping QWidgets | 06:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | eachof them the size of your screen | 06:50 |
| MohammadAG | that breaks the idea of layouts | 06:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 06:50 |
| MohammadAG | I'd be setting geometry myself | 06:50 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: No | 06:51 |
| alterego | Why are you setting the "other" widget as a child of it? | 06:52 |
| alterego | There's no fucking point. | 06:52 |
| alterego | It's complicating things. | 06:52 |
| alterego | You have _two_ sibling widgets, that are children of your QMainWindow and that is it. | 06:52 |
| alterego | show and hide each of them as you need to. | 06:52 |
| lolloo | btw, I bought this book http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Nokia-Apps-Development-OpenSymbian/dp/1430231777 | 06:52 |
| lolloo | after my exams I will start reading it. | 06:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | there are two alternative QWidgets, childs of musicscreen, and both size of 800*412 or whatever | 06:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if you hide the top layer qwidget, then the lower layer will show up (you might want to hide that nevertheless as long as the other one is shown) | 06:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you can have 2, 3 or 42 QWidgets, all childs of mainscreen | 06:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | and each holding its very own set of children widgets | 06:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it's a bit tricky to figure when they are instantiated | 06:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | ...sometimes | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | and if all are 'alive' and only hidden, then they eat quite a bit of RAM each | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | but that's for sure the fastest and easiest switching of a screen content/display you can get | 06:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw a tab widget is working quite similar | 07:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, probably you could use tabwidget and just reduce size of tabs to 0 | 07:04 |
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| MohammadAG | hmm | 07:11 |
| MohammadAG | how do I check if a QSettings value exists? | 07:11 |
| MohammadAG | contains(), nevermind | 07:13 |
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| MohammadAG | ffs | 07:19 |
| MohammadAG | I was editing the wrong file | 07:19 |
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| Termana | good morning | 07:23 |
| MohammadAG | morning Termana | 07:24 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, I ended up doing it like this, if you feel there's a better way, patches welcome :P http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer/commit/e8c58be240011e9e71c610f4c7ea6af297a55d1f | 07:31 |
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| moshee | :o | 08:23 |
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| iteration | what is involved in tethering my n900 to a FreeBSD router | 08:47 |
| iteration | dsl is out for a few days, id like to get the internet back | 08:47 |
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| psycho_oreos | USB networking, if thats supported under FreeBSD | 08:47 |
| iteration | so, putting the phone in (on pc suite mode), and organizing the networking | 08:48 |
| iteration | no additional software? | 08:48 |
| iteration | like for windows i use pc suite | 08:48 |
| psycho_oreos | well there's no pc suite for linux, neither would there be one for FreeBSD I bet. No additional software isn't needed generally under linux but under FreeBSD the case maybe different. I suppose its probably a kernel module that may need to be compiled, matches the running kernel version/arch and is ready for use | 08:49 |
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| iteration | yeah, i am trying to find what omdule i will need | 08:53 |
| iteration | it seems unlikely that itd be in generic | 08:53 |
| SpeedEvil | iteration: you plug it in, you select pc-suite mode, and you set it up as a 'generic' 3g modem | 08:54 |
| SpeedEvil | And it 'just works' | 08:54 |
| iteration | hmm. alright | 08:54 |
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| pupnik | android 'apps' suck so bad | 09:02 |
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| MohammadAG | heh why? | 09:03 |
| ds3 | that is an understatement | 09:04 |
| MohammadAG | i thought they were comparable to iOS apps | 09:04 |
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| lolloo | hi again, I was trying to install freoffice, but I got this error. | 09:17 |
| lolloo | Unpacking freoffice (from .../freoffice_0.3-1_armel.deb) ... | 09:17 |
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| lolloo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1 | 09:18 |
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| lolloo | error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/freoffice_0.3-1_armel.deb (--unpack): | 09:18 |
| lolloo | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-msword.png', which is also in package docstogo | 09:18 |
| lolloo | mmm I think I need to remove docstogo. | 09:21 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hi | 10:50 |
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| crashanddie | sup | 10:50 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:11 |
| lcuk | \o morning jaffa, all | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | morning | 11:12 |
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| crashanddie | morning lcuk, Jaffa, DocScrutinizer | 11:14 |
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| jacekowski | morning crashanddie | 11:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | good night john boy | 11:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 11:17 |
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| _GeekShadow | Get a N900! http://www.hudie.in/?fromuid=136809 | 11:25 |
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| tybollt_ | aargh | 11:26 |
| tybollt_ | that was NSFW | 11:26 |
| tybollt_ | ffs | 11:26 |
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| timeless_mbp | tybollt_: obviously you need to configure your irc client to use a private-browsing browser | 11:36 |
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| fellu | Umm | 11:37 |
| fellu | Where is good FAQ for istalling new android on my n900 | 11:37 |
| timeless_mbp | this looks like Chinese, not Hindi/whatever | 11:37 |
| timeless_mbp | tld violation | 11:37 |
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| Venemo_N900 | fellu: #nitdroid is the topic for that. it is OT here | 11:39 |
| Venemo_N900 | morning lcuk | 11:40 |
| timeless_mbp | very little content actually, about 3 pages | 11:41 |
| timeless_mbp | i | 11:41 |
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| timeless_mbp | it actually looks like it might be more of a risque poetry site :o | 11:42 |
| Venemo_N900 | lol timeless_mbp | 11:42 |
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| brbcoffee | yo, I have had my n900 for a couple of days now. it is awesome and i pimped it to the max. However I pimped it too hard and had to reflash. Now I can, | 11:51 |
| brbcoffee | 't remember how to get the 'rush' command for a root shell back | 11:52 |
| brbcoffee | does any one know? | 11:52 |
| fellu | vanemo, oki, thx | 11:53 |
| brbcoffee | also is there a better terminal emulator available, xterm kinda sucks... | 11:53 |
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| brbcoffee | I have installed rootsh however it does not have it. | 11:54 |
| brbcoffee | anyone? | 11:56 |
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| RobbieThe1st | root shell: "sudo gainroot" | 11:57 |
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| RobbieThe1st | in x-term | 11:57 |
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| brbcoffee | aah, robbie the thiest. we spoke a few days ago! | 11:58 |
| RobbieThe1st | Probably | 11:59 |
| tybollt_ | crashanddie: Thank you! :) | 11:59 |
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| * RobbieThe1st is still experiencing withdrawal from no working n900 (Replacement screen hasn't arrived yet). | 12:00 | |
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| brbcoffee | get an otterbox man! | 12:01 |
| tybollt_ | I am experiencing pre-withdrawal (work is going to replace my N900 w/ a desire :-| | 12:01 |
| RobbieThe1st | http://ebay.com | 12:01 |
| brbcoffee | amazon | 12:02 |
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| brbcoffee | how do i type a pipe on n900? | 12:02 |
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| RobbieThe1st | um, it's in the special-chars menu | 12:03 |
| RobbieThe1st | alt + shift to bring it up, IIRC | 12:03 |
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| brbcoffee | can i remove busybox? | 12:06 |
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| RobbieThe1st | brbcoffee: No. | 12:08 |
| RobbieThe1st | brbcoffee: Why would you want to? You can use Bash as an alternate shell, if you wish | 12:08 |
| RobbieThe1st | brbcoffee: You can also change the keyboard layout if you need certain chars(like the pipe) handy. | 12:09 |
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| brbcoffee | i have installed bash however i cannot make it work for root. i run bash-setup as root and it still uses BB | 12:10 |
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| RobbieThe1st | I forget, it's kind of weird | 12:10 |
| RobbieThe1st | You can try just running "bash" at the root BB prompt | 12:10 |
| RobbieThe1st | But yea... removing BB == reflash required, usually | 12:12 |
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| brbcoffee | ok. brb, coffee | 12:14 |
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| brbcoffee | yo | 12:53 |
| brbcoffee | right | 12:53 |
| brbcoffee | lets do this | 12:53 |
| brbcoffee | before i buggered up my n900 there was a command available called 'rush' | 12:53 |
| brbcoffee | this command would grant me a root shell with bash | 12:54 |
| brbcoffee | now I have reflashed I cannot find this command anymore | 12:54 |
| brbcoffee | 1. what package must i install to get rush back? (no geddy lee jokes pls) | 12:54 |
| brbcoffee | 2. How can I have root using bash instead of Busy box? | 12:55 |
| brbcoffee | 3. Is there a better terminal than xterm available? | 12:55 |
| jhb | brbcoffee: install rootsh, type root , type bash | 12:56 |
| brbcoffee | 4. A bunch of stuff about fcam however root terminal is more important to me | 12:56 |
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| brbcoffeee | woot, thank you | 13:06 |
| brbcoffeee | root works now | 13:06 |
| brbcoffeee | next question, is there a better terminal emulator? | 13:06 |
| brbcoffeee | because xterm kinda sucks, unless somone can tell me how to reduce the size of the tab, esc, ctrl soft buttons? | 13:07 |
| brbcoffeee | ? | 13:07 |
| kerio | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/toolbar -t bool "false" | 13:08 |
| kerio | there, reduced to 0 | 13:08 |
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| kerio | it's the only sensible way to use it | 13:08 |
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| kerio | and due to a bug you still get the buttons at the beginning, until you go fullscreen | 13:08 |
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| brbcoffeee | nice one, however I would still like to use the tab button, is there a known technique for removing those buttonss but still having tab? | 13:09 |
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| kerio | add some way to tab to your keymap | 13:11 |
| kerio | i use fn+backspace | 13:11 |
| brbcoffeee | ok thankk you | 13:12 |
| brbcoffeee | ok next question | 13:13 |
| brbcoffeee | I have titans power kernel v42 | 13:13 |
| kerio | don't overclock | 13:13 |
| kerio | it's not safe. ever | 13:13 |
| brbcoffeee | did you have a bad experiance? | 13:13 |
| kerio | it's just physics | 13:13 |
| kerio | either what we know about electrons is wrong, or overclocking is not safe | 13:14 |
| BCMM | brbcoffeee: the cpu clock is set where it is for reasons of the CPU's lifespan, not for batter reasons. | 13:14 |
| brbcoffeee | ok, ok this is not a question about OC | 13:14 |
| BCMM | there is not a safe level of overclocking. there is simply a sliding scale. do you want to burn out your cpu in years, months, or days? | 13:14 |
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| brbcoffeee | I am well aware of the dangers of OC | 13:15 |
| brbcoffeee | What I was asking was: | 13:15 |
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| brbcoffeee | I have the fcam drivers installed, then blessn900 however when I take a photo with blessn900 it is like two photos overlayed one another | 13:16 |
| brbcoffeee | is this is commonly reported problem? | 13:16 |
| kerio | yeah, bless is not really good | 13:16 |
| kerio | unless you have a tripod, in which case it's awesome | 13:16 |
| brbcoffeee | yeah bless sucks or yeah this is a common issue? | 13:17 |
| kerio | well, it's more of a problem in the design | 13:17 |
| kerio | blessn900 works by taking two photos | 13:17 |
| brbcoffeee | i understand that | 13:17 |
| kerio | and merging them together to increase detail | 13:17 |
| kerio | so if you move, even slightly, you get two different pictures overlayed | 13:18 |
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| brbcoffeee | ok thank you | 13:21 |
| brbcoffeee | next question | 13:21 |
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| brbcoffeee | if I have a program full screened and it has no 'unfullscreen' button is there a better war to get back to the task manager without having to open the keyboard and press ctrl+bspc? | 13:22 |
| brbcoffeee | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/toolbar -t bool "false" | 13:23 |
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| kerio | brbcoffeee: camkeyd | 13:25 |
| brbcoffeee | thank you | 13:25 |
| kerio | it's really useful | 13:25 |
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| Venemo | hi guys | 14:09 |
| Venemo | HSDPA is king :) | 14:09 |
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| Venemo | I can download stuff with the N900 as USB modem about 2 times faster than I could on the wifi here | 14:09 |
| Venemo | (unfortunately the evil neighbour seems to have protected his wifi after we've been using it for 2 years...) | 14:10 |
| Venemo | so I have to restort to the N900 now | 14:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | remoo | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: h-e-n GUI 0.3 : status:broken, can't be updated ... ? o.O? | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: (in HAM) | 14:15 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: its postinst failed for me too (from terminal) | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no postinst involved when clicking "details"? | 14:17 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: um, sorry, for me it isn't the h-e-n package. (mistaken if for cssu-enabler) | 14:17 |
| Venemo | s/if/it | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | oooh, cssu-enabler. Sounds nice :-D | 14:18 |
| Venemo | it was updated yesterday, but its postinst failed | 14:18 |
| Venemo | I can't even remove it with dpkg -r since that one also bothers with the postinst | 14:18 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: the package has been in the works for some time, but MohammadAG and Jaffa are having trouble with it :( | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | I also got hostmode-scripts-0.1 o.O | 14:20 |
| * DocScrutinizer thinks he has some obsolete cruft on his devel device (in addition to the 1.1.1 rootfs :-P) | 14:21 | |
| alterego | Venemo: it'll only get fixed if the package is fixed. | 14:21 |
| alterego | When dpkg tries to remove something, if the current versions postinst/postrm failes, it tries the new packages postrm | 14:22 |
| alterego | Wait, the postinst failes? | 14:22 |
| alterego | It shouldn't have installed then :P | 14:22 |
| Venemo | alterego: it _upgraded_ and then the postinst fails | 14:22 |
| Venemo | alterego: for some reason it doesn't let me remove either | 14:22 |
| alterego | Right | 14:22 |
| alterego | Hrm, lame O_O | 14:23 |
| alterego | What does it say when you try and install it again? | 14:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAM and alternative repos seems to be a royal PITA | 14:23 |
| Venemo | alterego: same thing | 14:24 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: HAM is a sick, crap thing | 14:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously | 14:24 |
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| Venemo | I've no idea how they could let its code base get this wrong | 14:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no idea, never looked into it, never wrapped my head around it beyond the fact there's some apt-worker-thread | 14:26 |
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| Venemo | yeah, that much I know too | 14:26 |
| alterego | Well, it is OSS ;) | 14:26 |
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| Venemo | alterego: it's OSS because its code is so crap that noone would bother looking at it | 14:27 |
| alterego | Heh | 14:27 |
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| Venemo | it could be improved though with the extensive use of caching things and the use of threading | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | definitely. Also lok at what HAM does when invoked from backup-tool restore | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | look* | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | there you suddenly *can* select multiple pkgs for installation | 14:28 |
| Venemo | hehe, yeah... | 14:28 |
| Venemo | I think Jaffa looked into the source | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | prior to apt-worker-thread doing its thing for 5+ minutes | 14:29 |
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| alterego | Heh | 14:29 |
| RST38h | moo all | 14:29 |
| Venemo | the apt-worker thingy should be just deleted. | 14:29 |
| alterego | Hey RST38h | 14:29 |
| Venemo | moo RST38h | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo RST38h | 14:29 |
| Venemo | how is the speed of HSDPA for you, guys? | 14:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: wouldn't that create an extremely fast and also somewhat useless dysfunct HAM? | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: usually VROOOOOOOM | 14:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: my carrier offers 7.2MB HSDPA and that's quite frequently really available | 14:32 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer51: I meant, use plain apt-get instead of apt-worker (to avoid the 'dysfunct' part) | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course RTT is poor as always with packet switched services OTA | 14:34 |
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| Venemo | RTT=? | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~rtt | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~rtt is round trip time | 14:35 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay | 14:35 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: by which you mean ping time and such things? | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 14:35 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: what I noticed is that DNS resolution takes slightly longer from 3G/HSDPA than a regular connection. and even slower on EDGE/GPRS | 14:36 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: although once the DNS resolution is okay, the raw DL speed is quite good | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, that's summed up RTTs for the different connections | 14:37 |
| Venemo | :) | 14:38 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: is the N900 capable of HSUPA too? | 14:38 |
| * Venemo is not sure | 14:38 | |
| DocScrutinizer | also the DNS you get via GPRS DHCP might be of poor speed | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, it is | 14:39 |
| Venemo | k, thx | 14:39 |
| Venemo | then I'll just say HSPA to spare a letter of typing :P | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534&cache=507205257§ion_id=562&culture=de-DE -> >>HSPA, max. Datenübertragungsgeschwindigkeit 10 MBit/s (Herunterladen)/2 MBit/s (Hochladen)<< | 14:41 |
| Venemo | Hochladen is upload and Herunterlagen is download, right? | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 14:41 |
| Venemo | k | 14:42 |
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| kerio | hsupa, yay | 14:44 |
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| Jaffa | Venemo: The latest version of cssu-enabler should fix the postinst issue. | 14:45 |
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| Jaffa | Venemo: To fix: comment out the line containing the word "libxec" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/community-ssu-enabler.postinst | 14:45 |
| Venemo | thx Jaffa | 14:46 |
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| Venemo | Jaffa: pm'd you | 14:50 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: was it you telling me to destroy my nolo before I send the device in for insurance testing? | 15:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 15:27 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: guide me please as I know how I get it boot looping but not stop booting ;) | 15:27 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: I'd like to have a state I can cold-flash only | 15:28 |
| xDaReaperx | Got a new screen guard ... looks good but it's kind of dark. .. less transparent | 15:28 |
| xDaReaperx | got it for 1 $ though | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/mtdX | 15:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | X == nolo's partition | 15:28 |
| chem|st | xDaReaperx: I got no screen protector at all as $60 aren't much for replacement after a year or two... | 15:28 |
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| SpeedEvil | $60 + chances of borking it. | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | chem|st: just a template so you figure yourself how to do it | 15:29 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: On dissasembly, did you note any moisture tell-tales? | 15:29 |
| xDaReaperx | well yeah mobiles are replacable | 15:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yes | 15:29 |
| xDaReaperx | but it's better to care :) | 15:29 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: ? I had the device open several times now and it is easy if you follow guidance of electronic rules | 15:30 |
| SpeedEvil | chem|st: fair enough - but others have managed to break it accidentally. | 15:30 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: sure thing | 15:30 |
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| chem|st | SpeedEvil: pay a $15 extra and "have it replaced" | 15:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Anyway - with my protectors - $5 for 10 - I notice no difference in feel or performance | 15:31 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: I tested 2 and came to the conclusion that I am better off without | 15:32 |
| SpeedEvil | Fair enough. | 15:32 |
| xDaReaperx | uhm | 15:32 |
| SpeedEvil | I've completely destroyed two accidentally | 15:32 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: but I see people scratching their devices in no time which I just don't do | 15:33 |
| xDaReaperx | careless ? | 15:33 |
| SpeedEvil | for example - putting seccateurs in the wrong pocket, and bending up and down a couple of hundred times | 15:33 |
| xDaReaperx | lol | 15:33 |
| chem|st | a friend put a package of gum in his pocket with his mobile and destroyed the display with the gum-package's Al-foil | 15:34 |
| ieatlint | ouch | 15:35 |
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| chem|st | ieatlint: exactly | 15:35 |
| ieatlint | yeah, gum would not be up on my list of concerns | 15:35 |
| chem|st | looked like sandbrushed | 15:35 |
| pupnik | the 770 had a protective metal case | 15:35 |
| ieatlint | i'm using one of the zagg invisibleshield covers... works well for me | 15:35 |
| xDaReaperx | the n900 is cheap plastic | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: (moisture detect) well, on rethinking it and checking my photos, it seems I can't say I've seen any | 15:36 |
| ieatlint | seems to reduce fingerprints showing up too | 15:36 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: odd | 15:36 |
| pupnik | ieatlint: is that matte / anti-glare? | 15:36 |
| chem|st | I scratched one of those protectors in the process of putting it in place | 15:36 |
| ieatlint | wouldn't call it antiglare.. does affect the screen appearance, but for some reason the fingerprints just seem less evident now | 15:36 |
| pupnik | i have a 7" device that looks like a mirror and i'd like to see less reflections | 15:37 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: please elaborate | 15:37 |
| ieatlint | really makes the gorilla glass seem appealing... but incompatible with a resistive touchscreen | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | chem|st: sorry - not tracking well this morning - elaborate on what | 15:38 |
| chem|st | moisture | 15:38 |
| ieatlint | pupnik: hah, just looked it up even... it advertises that it reduces appearance of fingerprints even.. http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/nokia-n900-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php | 15:38 |
| SpeedEvil | chem|st: the iphone and many other mobiles have little bits that turn pink if exposed to moisture. | 15:38 |
| ieatlint | but not sure it'd held with the gloss finish screen on your device | 15:38 |
| SpeedEvil | chem|st: this is used for warranty service to say 'no, you got it wet' | 15:38 |
| ieatlint | it's like those laptops with the glossy screens... how do people not terribly strain their eyes? | 15:39 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: did not recognize any but I did not remove the heatsinks and metal covers | 15:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | chem|st: I did | 15:39 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: I had that coke-whearbeer mix ;) | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | you find the hires scans on people.om.org/joerg/n9000 | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whearbeer sounds scary | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 15:41 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: wheatbeer ;) | 15:41 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: 404 | 15:42 |
| ieatlint | coke+wheatbeer still sounds scary to me | 15:42 |
| kerio | no, wait, host unreachable | 15:42 |
| chem|st | ieatlint: smells like hell | 15:42 |
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| chem|st | kerio: 4 me 2 | 15:42 |
| ieatlint | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/n900/ :P | 15:43 |
| ieatlint | not hard to figure out | 15:43 |
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| chem|st | ieatlint: the device looks like having heat-conducting liquid all over the place | 15:45 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: still have no clue where the moisture detecting bits might be | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | there are none | 15:47 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not impossible there may be none | 15:47 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: ah with "I did" you meant you did remove the covers... now I get it | 15:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yep | 16:07 |
| nidO | my device is being wierd :\ | 16:07 |
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| nidO | it's suddenly decided to have a 2-3x better battery life than it ever has before | 16:08 |
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| pupnik | ieatlint: that looks like a lucrative business, selling pieces of plastic for 30 dollars... | 16:16 |
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| crashanddie | pupnik, you should try casinos, they sell ceramic chips for hundreds and thousands of dollars | 16:20 |
| toggles_ | fyi i use one, works well, no other case, phone has lived in my pocket for over a year, no scratches etc though the back is starting to peel off and i lost the sides a few months back | 16:20 |
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| pupnik | crashanddie: or i could print pieces of paper and exchange them for food and goods | 16:21 |
| RST38h | Is Rockbox worth installing? | 16:22 |
| pupnik | for the ancient archos mp3 players? | 16:22 |
| RST38h | Ok, gotit. | 16:22 |
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| satmd | can I use my n900 as a bluetooth handset? | 16:27 |
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| ieatlint | pupnik: your clearly in the wrong business :P | 16:28 |
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| crashanddie | you're | 16:29 |
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| pupnik | indeed | 16:30 |
| ieatlint | :( | 16:30 |
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| ieatlint | i'm normally better than that | 16:30 |
| pupnik | the funny thing is the people printing the paper 'outlawed' anyone else printing similar pieces of paper | 16:31 |
| pupnik | and people act like that's normal | 16:31 |
| pupnik | but i'm way OT sorry | 16:31 |
| ieatlint | are you talking about money and criticising that it's illegal to counterfeit it? | 16:32 |
| BCMM | pupnik: you mean money, right? it seems perfectly normal to not be permitted to copy a currency, because that would essentially be impersonating somebody | 16:32 |
| BCMM | you can make your own currency, but you can't make money that claims to be guaranteed by somebody else (the government) without asking that somebody else first | 16:33 |
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| pupnik | no problem as long as nobody forces me to use their pieces of paper | 16:35 |
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| ieatlint | have fun trying to barter at your local shops :) | 16:36 |
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| ieatlint | a political candidate over here famously suggested that you try to pay your doctor with a chicken recently, actually | 16:36 |
| pupnik | ##economics | 16:37 |
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| t_s_o | how would one go about compiling a more recent microb-engine for maemo4? | 16:56 |
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| crashanddie | t_s_o, ask timeless_mbp | 17:11 |
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| crashanddie | lol... The WWF file format is a joke... | 17:21 |
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| crashanddie | supposedly, it's a file you can't print | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | but really, it's just a password protected PDF file | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | so rename it, unlock it (using the myriad of online tools), and print it. | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | Idiots. | 17:22 |
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| RST38h | crashanddie:Sounds nice | 17:25 |
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| * RST38h guesses the "format" has been invented by someone majoring in humanities | 17:26 | |
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| t_s_o | do not forget the extra page it adds to the end of every document... | 17:29 |
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| VladNistor | i can't seem to find stuff from the ovi store in the app manager. When i try using the "Store" app it says to go to the app manager and update | 17:34 |
| VladNistor | anyone know how I can install stuff from the ovi store? | 17:34 |
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| nidO | remove hide user agent | 17:35 |
| nidO | or at least reset to the default user agent | 17:36 |
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| VladNistor | thanks, i'll try that :) | 17:37 |
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| VladNistor | thank you, ovi store works now! | 17:54 |
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| Ex-Opesa | Which is best media player fo rn900 for playlists? I need something good for playlists. | 17:55 |
| Appiah | what do you mean? | 17:55 |
| Ex-Opesa | I need some player where I can make playlists for my music. ^^ | 17:56 |
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| oscillik | Apple iPod touch :p | 17:58 |
| Ex-Opesa | Thanks oscillik, you are very helpful. | 17:59 |
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| Appiah | never thought of using something else to create a playlist | 17:59 |
| Appiah | hmm | 17:59 |
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| oscillik | Ex-Opesa: sorry, i'm just bitter that Nokia dropped us all | 18:01 |
| Appiah | guess If i'm not using the n900 itself I would use whatever musicplayer I use on my PC | 18:01 |
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| Ex-Opesa | I am talking about n900. | 18:02 |
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| Ex-Opesa | The default player is not so good with playlists | 18:02 |
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| Ex-Opesa | oscillik: No problem. | 18:04 |
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| crashanddie | Ex-Opesa, there's an open source implementation of the media player in the works | 18:07 |
| crashanddie | Ex-Opesa, we're bouncing a few ideas around as to how to manage the playlists properly | 18:07 |
| crashanddie | one idea was to have a Qt-based (on computer) editor, onto which you'd drag songs and create playlists, the tool would then synchronise songs and playlists to the N900 | 18:08 |
| crashanddie | not unlike iTunes, I guess. | 18:08 |
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| crashanddie | but basically, as soon as the media player has decent support of different playlists, any tool to create playlists will do -- it just needs to be MAFW enabled | 18:09 |
| crashanddie | we'll probably release a helper tool on the N900, and basic features included in the media player, but not for version 1 | 18:09 |
| Ex-Opesa | Okay, glad to know developers are working on it. | 18:09 |
| crashanddie | first version is due mid to end january | 18:10 |
| crashanddie | (in devel, so not primetime ready) | 18:10 |
| crashanddie | once it's launched, we'll set up some discussion channels (tmo, prolly bmo as well) to enable user feedback and better the product | 18:11 |
| crashanddie | it won't be to everyone's liking, but hopefully a lot better than the current media player (which really, isn't saying that much) | 18:11 |
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| Ex-Opesa | Yeah. | 18:13 |
| Ex-Opesa | Pretty cool . :) | 18:13 |
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| alterego | Nice front page slot in mwkn for mohammedia player :) | 18:35 |
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| * MohammadAG grins :P | 18:35 | |
| alterego | :) | 18:35 |
| * alterego trade marks :P | 18:35 | |
| alterego | You owe me royalties now, muahahahah | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | You owe muslims, you're using the name Mohammed :P | 18:36 |
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| alterego | pfft | 18:36 |
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| alterego | They'd be proud of the publicity I'm sure I can get a waver. | 18:37 |
| MohammadAG | Mohammedia™ Player® 10.1 | 18:38 |
| MohammadAG | doesn't look bad | 18:39 |
| alterego | Hah, my name is in the news! | 18:39 |
| MohammadAG | he should've added a link to your facebook | 18:39 |
| alterego | pfft :P | 18:39 |
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| MohammadAG | crashanddie, back on track? we need to fill those placeholders I added yesterday :P | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, does a QWidget have a showEvent() or something? I need to emit a signal every time it's shown | 18:43 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: No, no, not 10.x | 18:44 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Not unless you want to be molested by a legion of lemmings | 18:44 |
| MohammadAG | 9.4 | 18:44 |
| RST38h | "MohammadAG's fake flashplayer sucks!" (tm) | 18:45 |
| RST38h | "Does not play any flash, cannot play cow-throw online with it!" | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | what about farmville? :P | 18:45 |
| RST38h | same. sucks. | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | or *looks at new trending game* cityville | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | god I hate those *ville-s | 18:46 |
| * RST38h is blissfully unaware of this stuff. Could be happening in alternative universe for all I know | 18:47 | |
| crashanddie | RST38h, it is | 18:47 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, alterego's addicted to them | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | he harvests his virtual farm while compiling columbus | 18:48 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: inherit QWidget and reimplement paintEvent | 18:48 |
| RST38h | poor guy, let us send him drugs. | 18:48 |
| alterego | :P | 18:48 |
| alterego | Yes please! | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | cocaine? | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | crap, logged channel :P | 18:48 |
| alterego | Anything, I don't care :P | 18:48 |
| alterego | heh | 18:48 |
| alterego | Just pretend you aren't serious | 18:49 |
| * MohammadAG sends cough medicine | 18:49 | |
| alterego | 8) | 18:49 |
| alterego | Probably still illegal :P | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | to alterego's address, as obtained from facebook | 18:49 |
| RST38h | novocaine enema! | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | blame facebook | 18:49 |
| alterego | Especially if it has cocaine in it. | 18:49 |
| * RST38h hides, just in case | 18:49 | |
| RST38h | Mohammad: He has got a facebook account? OMG, he is totally web2.0 | 18:50 |
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| alterego | I'm web3.0 actually. | 18:50 |
| * RST38h idly wonders if he has to stick with expression graph or do an expression tree instead | 18:50 | |
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| crashanddie | alterego, do you read old books? | 18:53 |
| alterego | I have been known to read on occasion :) | 18:54 |
| alterego | Why? | 18:54 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, books == old wall posts in web3.0 | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | you're still a 2.0, ha | 18:57 |
| alterego | bbiam | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | hah | 18:58 |
| crashanddie | alterego, HIGH ON LITERATURE: The fungi that feed on old paper may be mildly hallucinogenic, and may cause an "enhancement of enlightenment" in readers, says a report in the British medical journal The Lancet. The source of inspiration for many great literary figures may have been nothing more than a quick sniff of moldy books, the report says. | 18:59 |
| crashanddie | SABOB | 18:59 |
| crashanddie | Snort a bit o' book? | 19:00 |
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| crashanddie | anyway, off work | 19:00 |
| crashanddie | 'later all | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | heh, cya | 19:00 |
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| timeless_mbp | t_s_o: ? | 19:19 |
| timeless_mbp | oh, um.. | 19:20 |
| timeless_mbp | in theory it isn't complicated | 19:20 |
| * timeless_mbp shrugs | 19:20 | |
| t_s_o | heh, in theory nothing is complicated... | 19:20 |
| timeless_mbp | grab microb-engine sources and merge in mozilla-central | 19:20 |
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| timeless_mbp | it's possible there won't be any interesting merge conflicts | 19:21 |
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| t_s_o | heh, likely... | 19:21 |
| t_s_o | i am guessing one would do best to stick to the 3.x series? perhaps even 3.0? | 19:22 |
| timeless_mbp | ? | 19:23 |
| t_s_o | meh, never mind | 19:23 |
| timeless_mbp | sorry, i just can't figure out which system uses a 3.x numbering scheme | 19:24 |
| t_s_o | i wonder tho, why was no such update a part of the community ssu? is there something with the microb-ui that blocks? | 19:24 |
| t_s_o | firefox | 19:24 |
| timeless_mbp | do me a favor and don't use firefox numbering | 19:24 |
| timeless_mbp | i only deal in gecko numbering | 19:24 |
| t_s_o | ok | 19:25 |
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| t_s_o | ah, i may have been looking at the wrong target. Getting xulrunner updated to 1.9.2 proper (rather then alpha) may be what i am after | 19:27 |
| t_s_o | or maybe i got the two hopelessly confused, never mind... | 19:28 |
| t_s_o | bah, this is way out of my league :S | 19:29 |
| t_s_o | i should really just retire the N800 to a drawer and go look for a new device | 19:30 |
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| timeless_mbp | t_s_o: so.. | 19:34 |
| timeless_mbp | moving xulrunner to a newer version shouldn't be too painful | 19:35 |
| timeless_mbp | it's probably best to move it up one 1.9.<n> at a time though | 19:35 |
| timeless_mbp | if you hit a build failure, poke me | 19:35 |
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| hardaker | So is there any way to remove a package from testing? | 19:43 |
| hardaker | I can't find a way to do it? | 19:43 |
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| eichi | what is the best routing software on n900 at the moment? | 19:45 |
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| timeless_mbp | hardaker: generally packages don't get removed from repositories | 20:01 |
| timeless_mbp | you can file a bug to ask for them to be removed | 20:01 |
| timeless_mbp | (X-Fade or someone would deal w/ it) | 20:01 |
| hardaker | ah, thanks. | 20:01 |
| hardaker | I'd think that downgrading previous packages would be possible. | 20:02 |
| hardaker | ie, when something got like -5 karma | 20:02 |
| hardaker | (in tihs case, it's a rename and i wanted the older one to go away) | 20:02 |
| hardaker | (the obvious hack being republishing under the old name requiring the new) | 20:02 |
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| timeless_mbp | if you want to put a package back to an older version | 20:02 |
| timeless_mbp | then in debian terms you do something stupid like: | 20:03 |
| hardaker | I want to remove foo-0.2 because bar-0.3 exists | 20:03 |
| timeless_mbp | package-1.2-maemo2-really-1.0 | 20:03 |
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| hardaker | ie, a rename of a software component. | 20:03 |
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| timeless_mbp | so, afaiu, ham is not very good at getting packages to be removed | 20:03 |
| timeless_mbp | what i think you do is create: | 20:03 |
| timeless_mbp | foo-0.3 which is empty and depends on bar >=0.3 | 20:04 |
| hardaker | yep. that's what I was thinking would be the "hack" | 20:04 |
| timeless_mbp | it isn't really a hack | 20:04 |
| timeless_mbp | it's more of an unfortunate feature | 20:04 |
| hardaker | heh. | 20:04 |
| hardaker | hack == unfortunate feature | 20:04 |
| hardaker | I like it. | 20:04 |
| Ex-Opesa | Is there any way to use java stuff in maemo? | 20:05 |
| timeless_mbp | Ex-Opesa: yes | 20:05 |
| Ex-Opesa | timeless_mbp: Wow that is nice. | 20:05 |
| timeless_mbp | Ex-Opesa: um, i didn't say that :) | 20:05 |
| timeless_mbp | just "there is a way" | 20:06 |
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| Ex-Opesa | I need to run java 6 application on maemo, the application is related to anonymity. | 20:08 |
| Ex-Opesa | You mean there is just a way but its not very much supported? | 20:08 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/jalimo_and_java_6/ | 20:09 |
| timeless_mbp | java is not really something that was a primary focus for maemo | 20:09 |
| Ex-Opesa | I see. Let me open that. Thank you. | 20:09 |
| timeless_mbp | there is/was a project to provide support for some flavor / version of java | 20:09 |
| timeless_mbp | java6 from my perspective is rather 'modern' | 20:10 |
| Ex-Opesa | Yeah. Too bad. I wanted to run "your-freedom" application on n900. I wonder if they even support smart phones. ^^ | 20:11 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://www.torproject.org/docs/N900.html.en ? | 20:13 |
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| jhb | timeless_mbp, Ex-Opesa: I have no idea about java, but isn't there icedtea6? | 20:14 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://www.maemonokian900.com/nokia-n900-downlaods/icedtea6/ | 20:14 |
| * timeless_mbp shrugs | 20:14 | |
| timeless_mbp | great spelling of download ... | 20:14 |
| SpeedEvil | timeless_mbp: It's localised. | 20:15 |
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| jhb | e.g. I installed it, and some j2me version, and had some j2me app running... | 20:15 |
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| timeless_mbp | en-FI-cannotspell ? | 20:15 |
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| Ex-Opesa | timeless_mbp: I already use HSS and TOR, thanks about that. | 20:16 |
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| Ex-Opesa | jhb, Let me look into icedtea6. | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | whoever designed the N8's email app needs to be shot twice | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | can I get modest on it? :P | 20:19 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: serves you right for even thinking the n8 would be better than the n900 :) | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, it's not mine :P | 20:19 |
| jhb | Ex-Opesa: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/icedtea6/ | 20:19 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: irrelevant ;-b | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | I've tried everything | 20:20 |
| * timeless_mbp wonders what locale jhb uses | 20:20 | |
| jhb | Ex-Opesa: and http://code.google.com/p/microemu/ | 20:20 |
| MohammadAG | accepted Nokia Messaging's license, declined it, set up mail for exchange, set it up manually with POP3 (ew) | 20:20 |
| MohammadAG | gmail works, but the email I'm setting up is hotmail | 20:20 |
| * timeless_mbp installed ~50 apps today | 20:21 | |
| jhb | timeless_mbp: en-De? | 20:21 |
| timeless_mbp | jhb: device language? | 20:21 |
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| Ex-Opesa | jhb, thanks. Lets see. | 20:21 |
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| jhb | timeless_mbp: de_DE | 20:21 |
| Ex-Opesa | What about locale? | 20:22 |
| timeless_mbp | jhb: oh well | 20:22 |
| Ex-Opesa | Knowing others locale is some thing beneficial? O_o | 20:22 |
| jhb | timeless_mbp: I have the feeling I can't follow... | 20:22 |
| timeless_mbp | correct | 20:22 |
| MohammadAG | the networking stack on symbian's retarded | 20:23 |
| MohammadAG | it has a WLAN connection active, and it opened another 3G connection | 20:23 |
| MohammadAG | oh goody, another 3G connection on top | 20:23 |
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| MohammadAG | so 1 WLAN, and 2 3G connections, with a "Unable to sign in" error | 20:24 |
| timeless_mbp | symbian is special :) | 20:24 |
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| Ex-Opesa | jhb, Wow, Icedtea6 requires 116 mb space. ^^ | 20:25 |
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| Tamyrlin | timeless_mbp: Getting away from symbian was my main reason for buying a N900 :) | 20:27 |
| jhb | Ex-Opesa: the settlers game needs some 450 mb, if I remember correctly.. | 20:28 |
| Tamyrlin | Although it would be quite interesting with a symbian compatibility layer for the N900 (think Wine, but for symbian instead) | 20:29 |
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| Tamyrlin | Or android or iphone compatibility layer for that matter. (The later if you'd like to see Apple blacken the skies with lawyers deployed with parachutes) | 20:32 |
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| johnx | Tamyrlin, I know someone started work on getting android apps working on more normal X11-based distros, but apparently it's not a small undertaking | 20:34 |
| Ex-Opesa | jhb, Yeah.. | 20:34 |
| johnx | as for iPhone compat, I think someone did something kinda libwine-style | 20:34 |
| johnx | the idea being that it makes iPhone apps easier to port because the core logic doesn't need to be rewritten, just the UI | 20:34 |
| Tamyrlin | Yeah, I think ubuntu has some sort of project for android on general purpose Linux. (I saw it linked from the maemo wiki if I remember correctly) | 20:35 |
| johnx | yeah. the next post on that blog was basically "I don't think this can really go anywhere" though | 20:35 |
| Tamyrlin | Oh, too bad | 20:35 |
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| Tamyrlin | Well, personally I'm hoping for meego to get so big that android/iphone becomes niche players, but I'm not going to bet any big amounts of money on that :) | 20:37 |
| johnx | honestly, even if it just ends up with twice or three times the marketshare as maemo 5, we'll be in pretty good shape I think | 20:38 |
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| johnx | and I have to admit, I'm not to excited about wine-like projects ... | 20:39 |
| Tamyrlin | I'd much prefer native applications as well | 20:39 |
| johnx | something like libwine is pretty cool though | 20:40 |
| johnx | (the distinction being that libwine is for making ports easy, whereas wine attempts to run binaries compiled for other systems) | 20:41 |
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| Tamyrlin | Speaking of applications, does anyone know if it would be theoretically possible to create a 3GPP video call application on the N900 without having updated firmware for the baseband modem/etc? | 20:44 |
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| Tamyrlin | If I run tcpdump on phonet0 I can at least see some activity when someone is trying to call me with a video phone so I'm guessing that it is at least possible to create an application which tells me that someone unsuccessfully tried to call me over video | 20:45 |
| blueillusion | hey guys. im trying to setup nokia messaging on my n900. I've went through the setup instructions through the email program (added a nokia messaging account), but my emails are never pushed | 20:45 |
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| blueillusion | futher more, once i finish adding my account, i cant even log into email.nokia.com the website says I don't have an account there | 20:46 |
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| Tsuyo | Hello guys, does someone got mono running under the N900? The Repo here: http://go-mono.com/maemo/install/mono.install is wrong. I get a 404 Error. | 21:11 |
| jacekowski | that repo was for n8x0 | 21:11 |
| Tsuyo | : < | 21:11 |
| Tsuyo | So, is there any N900 port out? | 21:11 |
| jacekowski | nope | 21:11 |
| jacekowski | not when i last checked | 21:11 |
| Tsuyo | : / | 21:12 |
| Tsuyo | Allright, Thanks (: | 21:12 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, do you know what rate the now playing indicator is updated @? | 21:25 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 21:27 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: I'd go with 250-400ms | 21:28 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: look at columbus though for an example on how to detect context switches and display off events to pause UI updates ;) | 21:29 |
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| alterego | The code should be in columbus/src/MainWindow.{h,cpp} | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, using a QTimer as you suggested, it's not that intensive | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | however | 21:30 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: I know, it's just good practise and it would be cool to have that code in there for later, maybe adding visualisations etc. | 21:30 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, check the stock player, while scrolling, the indicator is hidden, your animation would look good there right? | 21:30 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: yeah probably, though I think it should always be visible personally. | 21:31 |
| alterego | Use neat animations in the video player ;) | 21:31 |
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| MohammadAG | even when scrolling? | 21:31 |
| alterego | Anyhow, I gotta spend some time with the lady. See you later. | 21:31 |
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| alterego | MohammadAG: yeah, it's more continuous. | 21:31 |
| MohammadAG | heh, k, o/ | 21:31 |
| alterego | ciao. | 21:31 |
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| timeless_n900 | mohammadag: i don't, what's the concern? | 22:01 |
| jhb | Has anyone the installer for the ovi maps firefox plugin around? | 22:01 |
| RST38h | ...discovery of a bug in the PHP programming language that causes computers to freeze when they process certain numerical values with large numbers of decimal places... | 22:01 |
| timeless_n900 | jhb: eh? | 22:01 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_n900, I'm adding the now playing indicator | 22:01 |
| * RST38h wonders how PHP manages that | 22:01 | |
| timeless_n900 | right. .. | 22:01 |
| timeless_n900 | "indicator" ? | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | the bottom right widget | 22:02 |
| timeless_n900 | i hope you don't mean the stupid animation | 22:02 |
| jhb | timeless_n900: there was a plugin installable at maps.ovi.com, but now it isn't anymore. And I'd like to the get installer for that plugin | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_n900, yes, the stupid animations | 22:02 |
| timeless_n900 | jhb: for desktop? | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | this http://www.forum.nokia.com/document/Maemo_5_Icon_List/icons/scalable/mediaplayer_nowplaying_indicator_pause.png | 22:02 |
| jhb | timeless_n900: indeed. Supposedly with that one is able to use the files from n900:/usr/share/nokia-maps on the desktop | 22:03 |
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| * timeless_n900 ponders | 22:03 | |
| jhb | timeless_n900: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66985 | 22:03 |
| timeless_n900 | sounds correct | 22:04 |
| timeless_n900 | it was a single gecko plugin | 22:04 |
| timeless_n900 | for both maemo and windows | 22:04 |
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| timeless_n900 | hi avs | 22:05 |
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| jhb | hehe | 22:06 |
| timeless_n900 | there's a second one just like this | 22:07 |
| timeless_n900 | a standard feature? no support for downloading things after they "graduate" | 22:07 |
| jhb | yeah, its really bad | 22:07 |
| jhb | mmmh, maybe the archive? | 22:08 |
| timeless_n900 | s/its/it's/ | 22:08 |
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| timeless_n900 | http://www.nokiasymbianthemes.com/free-mobile-applications/ovi-maps-3-features-downloads-and-plugins | 22:09 |
| timeless_n900 | has a "modified" plugin | 22:09 |
| timeless_n900 | it seems to have a working link | 22:09 |
| timeless_n900 | but i don't think it'll work on my n900. .. | 22:09 |
| * jhb checks | 22:10 | |
| E0x | ovi map is a weird app | 22:12 |
| jhb | timeless_n900: that looks rather promising | 22:12 |
| * jhb would love to somehow get voice navigation into the ovi maps on n900.... | 22:12 | |
| E0x | because now in my n900 i can see ( i mean after 1.3 update ) the street name of my country | 22:12 |
| E0x | but if you go to the web version | 22:12 |
| E0x | you can't get that info | 22:12 |
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| timeless_n900 | odd | 22:14 |
| jhb | E0x: strange | 22:14 |
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| MohammadAG | effing hildon | 22:15 |
| timeless_n900 | ? | 22:15 |
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| timeless_n900 | jhb: don't forget to save the archive and scan the binaries :) | 22:24 |
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| jhb | timeless_n900: ah, if everything crashes I just blame you :-P | 22:24 |
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| timeless_n900 | sp3000: hey, can i use strace to log ham? :) | 22:27 |
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| * timeless_n900 wants to watch a package's update process | 22:27 | |
| * timeless_n900 doesn't want to spend time making dummy packages | 22:28 | |
| MohammadAG | timeless_n900, mind checking your /query? | 22:28 |
| jhb|mobile | ha, i forgot that i now have this nifty little device for the internets | 22:29 |
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| timeless_n900 | heh | 22:29 |
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| timeless_n900 | mohammadag, i generally will eventually notice /query :) | 22:33 |
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| jhb|mobile | timeless_n900: doesn't seem to work with that plugin... | 22:53 |
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| crashanddie_ | also, learn to type | 23:03 |
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| hardaker | jhb|mobile: you should get an n900. They don't crash. :-P | 23:29 |
| jhb|mobile | stupid me ;) | 23:30 |
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| mr_cecil | does anyone know if there is a mirror of harbaum's repo at download.obs.maemo.org? | 23:57 |
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