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comawhitefrals, ping00:38
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OEXPLHmm,  I am trying to make a truecrypt container on the device, 10 GigaByte, and I get Error: Resource temporarily unavailable:01:05
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Termanagood morning02:03
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Pradeepto all my maemo and linux friends i wish a swell xmas02:54
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luke-jrMerry Christmas!07:14
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SpeedEvilluke-jr: Indeed.07:16
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araujoMerry Christmas everyone07:16
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ZogGштеукуыештп ерштп07:28
ZogGinteresting thing*07:28
ZogGre-flashed device twice already just cause everytime /etc/apt/sources.list is empty07:29
ZogGwhile /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-blahblah.list has all repos07:29
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ZogGDocScrutinizer =(07:36
psycho_oreosI believe HAM uses /etc/source.list.d/foo file instead07:39
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psycho_oreosand I think /etc/apt/source.list was to remain empty unless maybe you install a third party HAM-like application such as fapman07:42
psycho_oreosand anyhow the file in /etc/sources.list.d/ does not seem to be complete either, only the repos you have enabled in HAM would it have its own entry otherwise it would not be in there07:43
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ZogGpsycho_oreos true07:53
ZogGreflashed from other computer and installed rootsh before using anying backup restores =)07:53
ZogGi do have catalogues though the source.list is empty07:54
Ex-OpesaHello. I can't play youtube videos in programs. Cutetube and mytube both don't work.07:55
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psycho_oreosZogG, chances are the catalogues aren't enabled but I could be wrong.. afaik from my observation catalogues that are enabled with have their own entries inside /etc/sources-list.d/ whereas if they are disabled they are placed in some other location that I am not aware of yet08:07
psycho_oreosEx-Opesa, maybe those programs don't spoof the flash player version yet08:08
Ex-Opesapsycho_oreos: Maybe. :S08:08
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Ex-OpesaI installed MSN account package for conversations but its not loading. It always "not signed in". What should I do?08:09
ZogGpsycho_oreos there are no catalogues and as i add they do not appear08:10
ZogG3rd reflash solved it08:10
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ZogGmaybe somehower other computer i flashed from made problems as at the begining it didn't see n900 at all08:10
ZogGi mean it saw it but not for flashing08:11
ZogGwas some usb modules error as forum search said =)08:11
ZogGEx-Opesa what do you mean it's not loading? where did you install it? pidgin?? did you try to enable it in avability option or if it's pidgin in pidgin?08:12
Ex-OpesaZogG: I won't like to install pidgin on it too. I want the integrated IM to work like gmail/facebook work nicely. I have already installed msn for im thingy applcation.08:13
ZogGare you sure it's not pidgin plugin?08:14
Ex-OpesaLet me confirm.08:14
ZogGcan't check now as i do restore and it downloads 700+ mb of apps and installling them =)08:14
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Ex-OpesaZogG: Exact application name is "MSN protocol plugin for conversations and contacts"08:16
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Ex-OpesaIn description is says "for confirguring msn accs using telepathy-bufferfly connection manager" ^^08:17
Ex-OpesaMaybe I should use peacon O_o08:17
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johnxaren't there two MSN plugins?08:17
johnxor is it down to one these days?08:18
Ex-OpesaFor me the msn protocol plugin" is not working. I will try peacon one now.08:18
johnxI have the 'pidgin plugins for ...' one08:18
johnxsorry, 'pidgin protocols for Conversations and Contacts'08:19
johnxseems to work ok08:19
Ex-OpesaI see.08:20
Ex-OpesaIts just I don't want to use pidgin on mob even. I already use it on gnome. ^^08:21
johnxerrr, it's a package that adds that protocol support to the builtin conversations app08:21
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johnxit's based on pidgin's protocol handling code, but they're just plugins for "Conversations" and "Contacts"08:22
Ex-OpesaThanks for clearing up the confusion johnx. =)08:22
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johnxit weirded me out at first too08:22
psycho_oreosZogG, interesting08:25
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Ex-Opesajohnx, does that pidgin application also indicates who is online/offline. etc?08:26
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johnxerrr, pidgin the application? or the 'pidgin protocols ...' package?08:35
johnxthey both do, but just wondering :)08:35
Ex-Opesajohnx. Thanks I am using now pidgin for conversation/IM and that msn-peacon didn't provide me with status of contacts. Its all solved now. Thanks :)08:36
johnxkeen :)08:37
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Loomany1 got a clue how to use the keybind shortcuts with opera?09:30
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Loomany1 got a clue how to use the keybind shortcuts with opera?09:48
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* valeriusN compiled catdoc 0.9.4 on my n900, no need in cross-compiling! cool ;)10:43
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DocScrutinizerHoHOho :-D10:49
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daxt_Hello guys , what is the best app which automatically records incoming and outgoing calls without user involvement ?11:39
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DocScrutinizerdaxt_: ^^^11:45
alteregoMerry crimbo11:47
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comawhiteblah why must installing meego be so bloody complicated11:58
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daxt_DocScrutinizer according to the comments in the app info page , recaller does not record calls automatically12:01
daxt_DocScrutinizer what is your experience on it ?12:02
DocScrutinizererr, that's all new to me. I read that as "recaller's main purpose is to record calls automatically". And it does for me - or did last time I checked12:03
DocScrutinizersomething broke it so it occasionally never stopped recording, even after end of call. So I deinstalled it. Need to give it another try and some love12:04
DocScrutinizercomawhite: probably mainly because you don't want to nuke maemo for it, usually12:06
DocScrutinizercomawhite: or what's the part that makes it complicated for you?12:07
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RST38hMoo all12:24
RST38hKill the turkeys, ducks and chickens / Mix the punch, drag out the Dickens / Even though the prospect sickens / Brother, here we go again12:26
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DocScrutinizermoo RST38h12:33
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alteregoRST38h: I'm having goose today actually :P12:37
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RST38halterego: Ah you evil bird murderer!12:40
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alteregoWell, I didn't kill it myself :P12:42
daxt_guys what is the maps app that uses the downloaded map images and not the internet connection to get map images ?12:42
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alteregoI am, also, a bit hung over.12:44
alteregoWhich isn't great.12:45
alteregoBut it is my own fault :D12:45
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RST38hdaxt:pretty much every maemo mapping app will cache images it downloads12:53
RST38hand not download them again12:53
alteregoRST38h: Not my app! :P12:59
alteregoMy app doesn't need to download any maps.12:59
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alteregoI had someone request voice navigation via a PM yesterday.13:00
alteregoIt seems a lot of people really like how it looks, and so they want me to turn it into another guided navigation app.13:00
alteregoWhich isn't its' purpose at all.13:01
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RST38halterego: You app is not showing any maps.13:12
alteregoExactly, though it seems people want even mine to become a bog standard maps app.13:12
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alteregoI probably will put mapping into v213:17
alteregoBut v2 I estimate wont be around until summer next year.13:17
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RST38hIs your app native?13:19
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alteregoYou mean, not Python?13:22
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comawhitealterego, native as in C/C++ :P13:25
alteregoIsn't that what I just said?13:26
alteregoIt's Qt/C++13:26
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alteregoNow to work out why this plugin module is killing my app :(13:39
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RST38halterego: Yea,I meant "notpython" :)13:59
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alterego"Columbus Navigation Toolkit von Tom Swindell ist ein GPS Navi-Tool mit erweiterten Features für GPS-Navi-Enthusiasten."14:14
alteregoHahah, that translates directly to my package's description field.14:14
alteregoThat's hilarious.14:14
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SpeedEvilalterego: Just do
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alteregoYeah, might put that in. In the style of a gigercounter.14:27
SpeedEvilWWII sonar14:27
alteregoHow about the original star trek ping14:29
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falivai have a problem. when trying to install the twitter client Khweeteur, it says that it needs "python-pkg-resources", which can't be installed14:32
falivai tried installing it manually via apt-get, but it didn't work either14:33
falivathe same problem as this guy here:
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falivasomeone sugested that i should add "python-pkg-resources (>= 0.6c9-1maemo2)" to the "package Depends:", but i don't know how to do it14:33
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RobbieThe1stfaliva: Check you've got extras-devel enabled; I wouldn't be surprised if that package was only in devel.14:40
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falivaokay, but do you know what the guy meant by adding "python-pkg-resources ..." to the "package depends:"?14:42
MohammadAGdebian/control, line Depends:14:42
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Pradeepmerry chrismas everyone14:42
falivamerry christmas Pradeep14:42
falivaMohammadAG: what's debian/control?14:43
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MohammadAGfaliva, a file14:43
falivaah, okay14:44
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alteregoHey MohammadAG :)14:48
MohammadAGmorning alterego :J14:49
infobotMohammadAG meant: morning alterego :)14:49
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alteregoOooo, goose carving time! :D15:05
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DocScrutinizerprintf "%6x YUMMY" 1264843015:25
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FireStorm|mrry xmas everyone :) xxx hope u all got hat u want15:30
FireStorm|and if ur not quit on xmas day then haha!!! and if you gone passed xmas day then happy new year :D15:30
FireStorm|now i got a question, is it a knob bug or not? i've had a conact in the phone for good 3 or 4 months, been sending loads txt etc all ok, com to this morning went to send txt and it sent, then i went back into it. and there is no contact info againest the txt but they still exist, then i txted it and it doesn't send but i get a reply15:32
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FireStorm|but then i don't see non eof the txt i sent to that contact15:33
FireStorm|ne ideas?15:33
FireStorm|and it's happened a few times now15:33
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FireStorm|ne one?15:36
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DocScrutinizerJaffa: ping15:47
DocScrutinizerGAN900: ping15:48
DocScrutinizerGAN900: Jaffa : if you're looking for MWKN subjects: I'd think and is quite worth it (sorry if I missed a previous article covering that :-D)15:50
DocScrutinizereasily qualifies for "killer app" tag :-)15:51
jacekowskiwhat does it do?15:51
DocScrutinizermapping, routing15:51
jacekowskimaps from?15:51
jacekowskiturn by turn voice?15:52
DocScrutinizerno voice (yet)15:52
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DocScrutinizer1.1 feature15:52
jacekowskiso pretty much just offline nokia maps15:52
DocScrutinizerhmm, offline routing, offline searching15:53
DocScrutinizerand turn by turn written guidance15:53
DocScrutinizerit's in devel15:55
DocScrutinizerseems properly optified15:56
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FireStorm|DocScrutinizer ne ideas?15:58
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Miles_Davishello guys16:03
SiceloPlease tell me what TMO means? Maybe I'm not Googling it right16:03
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Miles_Davisi think it means Time to Move Out16:05
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infoboti guess tmo is, or too much off-topic, or not ~t-mo16:06
Sicelothanks :)16:07
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Miles_Daviswow, 3 letters can have so many meanings16:07
Miles_Davisx chat on maemo is really messed up, the ui is utterly cluttered16:12
RST38hSurprise, CptObvious!16:12
jacekowskixchat is messed up regardless16:12
FireStorm|fucking ovi is doing my nut in16:12
alteregoThat's why I use irssi via screen on one of my servers :)16:13
RST38hFireStorm: left or right one?16:13
jacekowskialterego: lags16:13
FireStorm|cause even though the phone is in data suite mode, ovi is saying it isn't :@16:13
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jacekowskialterego: irssi + remote irssi-proxy16:13
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jacekowskiyeah, but not noticeable16:14
jacekowskias you see what you type as you type16:14
alteregoAnd 90% of the time it's not noticable for me.16:14
FireStorm|i'm not liking this phone ne more :(16:15
alteregoYeah, I understand that, but in a way, I like the fact that you know your connection is rubbish.16:15
Miles_Davisbuy an iFruit16:15
FireStorm|i'm just going to cry and go back to a brick.16:15
FireStorm|just seems that it lack it's spark ne more :(16:16
alteregojacekowski: I've managed to work out that my problem is a specific dynamic module that I load, would you like to have a look at it and see if you can work out why it's screwing location?16:16
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jacekowskialterego: sure, just remind me what are you talking about16:16
alteregoWhen I did a big refactoring in my app, location services stopped being started.16:17
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firestorm||and somehing is fucking up on this phone, it's losing contact info when sending txt16:17
alteregoI found out that it actually worked fine with an empty plugin directory.16:17
alteregoThen I found that it was one specific module that seemed to kill.16:18
firestorm||just got a txt, i've replied to tit, gone back into it and it says no sms delivery info and no number and no txt msg :S16:18
jacekowskialterego: and that module is?16:18
alteregoIt adds network streaming support to my app.16:18
alteregoI'll upload it.16:19
firestorm||hmmm i think time to factory rset phone n start again16:19
jacekowskifirestorm||: flash it16:19
firestorm||hmmm i think time to factory rset phone n start again16:19
firestorm||whats that jacekowski16:19
jacekowskiproper factory reset16:20
firestorm||link to hwo to do it?16:20
infoboti guess flashing is
firestorm||good man :D16:20
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jacekowskialterego: hmm, is it just module that breaks it?16:20
alteregojacekowski: yeah16:21
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jacekowskii mean have you tried previous verison with this module16:21
jacekowskior it's incompatible16:21
alteregoThe modularisation was part of my refactoring.16:21
alteregoBefore they were compiled into my app.16:21
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jacekowskican you upload whole app16:22
alteregoThat's all you need.16:22
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ZogGkhertan, ping16:23
firestorm||Public Release 1.2: 10.2010.19-116:23
firestorm||    * RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.19-1.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin16:23
firestorm||          o Size: 18785280116:23
firestorm||          o MD5: 0a8f877fef95b5e67da52c9e42d1fbf516:23
firestorm||is that the least version?16:23
jacekowskialterego: so i download that tar file, unpack it, download libnetowrk plugin, put it in same folder or in subfolder plugins/?16:24
ZogGthe last is RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2 something16:25
jacekowskifirestorm||: it says latest version under it16:25
alteregoThe plugin search path is /opt/usr/lib/columbus/plugins16:25
ZogGanone using khweeteur?16:28
alteregojacekowski: so, I wrote a minimal test app, that attempts to start location services and also just loads that explicit module.16:28
jacekowskidoes it work?16:28
ZogGafter re-flash it meets problem with some python packages while trying to install16:28
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alteregojacekowski: and low and behold, if you start the location service before the load, it works, if you start location services after the load it fails.16:29
DocScrutinizerI'd not recommend flashing, just for fixing a borked SQLite database16:29
DocScrutinizerwhile odds are the database will survive flashing anyway :-P16:30
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MohammadAG~seen wazd16:30
infobotwazd <~Andrew@> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 11d 55m 47s ago, saying: 'Stskeeps: not sure if I can mention it :D'.16:30
DocScrutinizerthere's a ticket in bmo about such problems16:30
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DocScrutinizerthough I can understand jacekowski as 1 2 f337 ! ne 55178 helping 7331spkrs out16:33
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DocScrutinizerthere's Nokia support for that16:35
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alteregojacekowski: I just can't figure it out.16:41
RST38hWhen do they show DrWho Christmas Special tonight?16:42
alterego3 hours 15 minutes16:42
alterego6pm GMT ;)16:42
RST38hAh...Will have to wait until tomorrow then16:42
alteregoGetting late where you are?16:44
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alteregoThis is just insane ..17:00
jacekowski/home/user/columbus/columbus: symbol lookup error: /home/user/columbus/columbus: undefined symbol: þÞÿçQPixmapC1ERK7QStringPKc6QFlagsIN2Qt19ImageConversionFlagEE17:00
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alteregoHrm, erm.17:01
alteregoMissing Qt deps?17:01
jacekowskiwell, it's strange17:01
alteregoI don't get that error.17:01
jacekowskii only get it when i run it on debugger17:01
alteregoOh, hrm.17:02
jacekowskibut it may be gdbserver bug17:02
alteregoPresumably even when the module is absent?17:02
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alteregoThat symbol should be in Qt Gui module.17:03
jacekowskiyeah, it fails on plain gdb as well17:03
* alterego has had an idea.17:03
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alteregoI just thought.17:03
jacekowskiApplicationController: Connecting telemetry source signals.17:03
jacekowski/home/user/columbus/columbus: symbol lookup error: /home/user/columbus/columbus: undefined symbol: ððçQPixmapC1ERK7QStringPKc6QFlagsIN2Qt19ImageConversionFlagEE17:03
alteregoI didn't get that when I was using gdb ..17:04
jacekowskiNokia-N900:~/columbus$ gdb --version17:05
jacekowskiGNU gdb (GDB)
alteregoYeah, same version as me.17:06
alteregoI've commented out a load of code and taken a load of source files out of the compilation for that module, and it still fails :/.17:07
jacekowskilet me just upgrade everything17:10
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alteregoOh, it's not specific to that module in my test app.17:11
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alteregoWeird, so my minimal test plugin M_USE_NAMESPACE17:15
alteregoand my minimal test case fails.17:15
alteregoSo maybe this isn't my fault :/17:15
jacekowskihow do you load plugins?17:16
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alteregoUsing "QPluginLoader"17:16
alteregoThat's my test code.17:17
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alteregoStrange ..17:28
alteregojacekowski: this works:
alteregoBut if you move line 16 to after line 18, it breaks.17:29
alteregoSo the problem isn't even with startUpdates() it seems to happen earlier. When you create the location services controller.17:30
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jacekowskiwhen looking for my gdb problem17:42
jacekowskii found that17:42
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alteregoYou are reproducing my issue right?17:44
alteregoWith the plugin in that dir it fails to start the location services?17:45
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jacekowskiand btw17:47
jacekowskihave you noticed that it segfaults17:47
alteregoCool, so we're on the same page :D17:47
alteregoYeah, when it terminates17:47
jacekowskiwhen that plugin is there17:47
alteregoI did notice yeah. Fixed that.17:47
alteregoBut like I said, I've now ascertained it isn't plugin specific,17:47
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FireStorm|well the mameo webti is out of date :(17:58
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alteregojacekowski: well, I've "fixed" it now :/18:00
alteregoI'll wait until the new year and submit an example to Qt bugs and see what they think.18:03
alteregoIt's just odd behaviour tbh18:03
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shikamarudoes someone manage to sync its n900 with syncevolution over bluetooth ?18:31
shikamaruI keep getting an “underlying transport error”, using syncevolution 1.1 on mandriva cooker and 2010.018:32
shikamarudebian gives me that error too but I don’t remember which version is installed18:32
shikamaru(the one that’s provided in squeeze)18:32
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shikamaruif someone get it working, I’d be more than happy to know which version of bluez/syncevolution you are using18:35
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shikamaru(got 1.0beta2 on debian actually)18:37
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RST38hAm I missing something or has the latest FireFox started leaking memory again?18:40
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ptlMaybe it's a new feature18:42
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* alterego wonders if ISomeInterfaceName is frowned on in Qt code.19:33
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satmdI have a question19:59
satmddue to a failing charger, my battery was completely depleted19:59
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satmdadvanced power says 0:20 remaining and it beeped all the time19:59
satmd69mAh left20:00
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timeless_mbpJaffa: ping (and merry christmas?), :)20:00
satmdhow can I check how healthy the battery is?20:00
alteregoMerry christmas timeless :)20:00
satmd(2h of charging says ~50% charged, 611mAh)20:00
timeless_mbpalterego: N/A20:00
satmdmerry christmas you all ;)20:01
timeless_mbp"Account blocked following excessive failed logins. Contact Nokia Care or "20:01
timeless_mbp"your ISP."20:01
timeless_mbpanyone have an opinion on that first sentence?20:01
alteregoWhat account? Ovi or
timeless_mbpnokia messaging20:06
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alteregoHrm, interesting.20:07
alteregoI wonder what it has to do with your ISP :D20:08
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DocScrutinizersatmd: 600mAh after 2h of charging? sounds odd20:09
DocScrutinizerecept if you're charging from USB host20:09
timeless_mbpalterego: nokia messaging can be provided by your isp20:10
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satmdyeah, and batterygraph didn't update for 2 hours, then manually20:16
satmdan instant rise 61->61120:16
Ro9u3oRIve been trying to use aircrack to test my network security but im having problems using the program20:16
satmdyes, usb host20:16
Ro9u3oRanyone know of a good tutorial20:16
Ro9u3oRThanks Doc20:19
* timeless_mbp sighs20:21
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timeless_mbpfinnish subtitles *suck*20:21
timeless_mbpa guy goes through a line "You say <am[ae]to>, I say <am[ah]to>"20:21
timeless_mbpand the subtitles distinguish20:22
timeless_mbps/subtitles/subtitles *don't*/20:22
infobottimeless_mbp meant: and the subtitles *don't* distinguish20:22
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timeless_mbpso, i need to make a binary patch20:27
timeless_mbpis sed binary safe?20:27
DocScrutinizeryes, mostly20:28
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timeless_mbpDocScrutinizer: ping21:17
timeless_mbpsed -i 's/%I:%M %p/%l:%M %P/' $ODSPATH21:17
timeless_mbpexit 021:17
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* timeless_mbp isn't quite sure when to do that21:19
timeless_mbpin theory it should be done any time there's a chance that the file in question has changed21:19
* timeless_mbp sighs21:21
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MohammadAGtimeless_mbp, what exactly is that for?21:27
MohammadAGthe plugin that is21:28
timeless_mbp"nokia messaging"21:28
timeless_mbpit's for giving me headaches21:28
MohammadAGand why perl? looks like sh to me21:29
timeless_mbpoh heh21:29
timeless_mbpi changed my mind about how i want to do it21:30
timeless_mbpright, so, assume it said #!sh21:36
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MohammadAGtimeless_mbp, grep it for the string, if it returns true, sed it, if not, do nothing21:39
timeless_mbpMohammadAG: alright21:40
MohammadAGI think modest sends a signal every time there's a refresh21:40
timeless_mbpis the grep valid in the form grep X > /dev/null && ?21:40
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer does it like this in his starhash-enabler package21:42
MohammadAGif ! grep "\[supplementary\]" /home/user/.osso/call-ui.ini >/dev/null 2>&1;21:42
MohammadAG#if file doesn't exist or doesn't contain the easter egg21:42
MohammadAGso I guess grep "%I:%M %p" $ODSPATH 2>&1 /dev/null should do it21:43
MohammadAGsignal sender=:1.273 -> dest=(null destination) serial=270 path=/com/nokia/modest;; member=folder_updated21:44
MohammadAG   string "Nokia MessagingID_store"21:44
MohammadAG   string "inbox"21:44
timeless_mbpMohammadAG: wait21:44
timeless_mbpdo you *use* nokia messaging?21:44
MohammadAGare extended batteries for laptops worth it?21:44
MohammadAGyes, I do21:44
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timeless_mbpMohammadAG: can i get you to try a package at some point?21:48
timeless_mbp(it isn't ready yet)21:48
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* timeless_mbp frowns21:48
MohammadAGyeah sure21:48
alteregoMohammadAG: I've got an extended battery for my laptop21:49
Ex-OpesaHello! Why doesn't maemo's picture viewer doesn't keep "custom folder" for next start of the application too?21:49
alteregoBut I the original battery failed quite bad so I thought if I'm gonna buy one I might as well get the higher capacity.21:49
Ex-OpesaI don't want it to show "All images" at every start.21:49
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alteregoAnd I'm really happy, I get about 3-4 hours now.21:50
alteregoMaybe more, but generally I'm quite a hard user.21:50
timeless_mbpEx-Opesa: because the ui designers were stupid21:50
timeless_mbpand the engineers follow orders to the letter21:50
timeless_mbpEx-Opesa: you might be able to use a command line to start it to something else...21:51
timeless_mbpdepending on how friendly the engineers were21:51
timeless_mbpyou can for instance open image viewer to a certain image21:51
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Ex-Opesatimeless_mbp: Is there any other way? maybe like some edit of config files throught nano? I really don't want it to show my "all images" at start... :/21:51
alteregoThat annoys me too ..21:52
timeless_mbpsorry, i don't feel like checking21:52
timeless_mbpmaybe you can trick alterego into poking around :)21:52
* timeless_mbp needs to hunt for some packages :(21:52
MohammadAGthere's a way to open images via DBus, indeed21:52
Ex-OpesaI found a relevant thread to my question. ^
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Ex-OpesaSalam alaikum MohammadAG21:56
MohammadAGgod I hate my internet connection21:56
MohammadAGo/ :)21:56
MohammadAGkeep it english in here, feel free to PM me21:57
Ex-OpesaOkay. =)21:57
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alteregoI want to define an interface for my logging system.22:00
alteregoBut my interface requires signals/slots from Qt, which means I have to inherit from QObject, thus breaking all of reality.22:01
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* MohammadAG lols @ #2
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MacerMohammadAG: hahaha22:05
Maceryeah thats pretty funny22:05
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FireStorm|where can i get latest version of firmware from?22:09
FireStorm| - doesn't have it :(22:09
FireStorm|ty :D22:11
FireStorm|easier way then havig to open phone though ;(22:11
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FireStorm|havig issues with phone and it keeps losing contact detial in txts e.g i send txt all ok go back into txt and it says delivery failed no sms data and then there is no number etc22:13
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FireStorm|somoene said do factory reset?22:13
FireStorm|or is it known bug? any ideas MohammadAG?22:13
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MohammadAGno idea tbh22:15
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FireStorm|MohammadAG did u reply :( connection timed out :(22:20
MohammadAG<MohammadAG> no idea tbh22:20
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MohammadAGI'd just clear the databases (IM ones)22:20
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FireStorm|no idea?22:21
MohammadAGwell, backup first22:21
MohammadAGthen just rm /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db22:21
FireStorm|can i do that through the brosing to phone from pc as not got ssh etc installed on it22:24
MohammadAGjust open terminal and type in rm .rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db22:25
MohammadAGuse tab to autocomplete filenames, it's not that long :P22:26
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FireStorm|lol :)22:27
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befordhey. any idea why the conversation/sms app wont show names from my contact list, abnd just numbers?22:29
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timeless_mbpbeford: typically a number is listed in multiple contacts22:30
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timeless_mbpthe app is like pavlov's dog22:30
timeless_mbpit can't decide22:30
timeless_mbpalso, technically if you have two contacts whose number has the same last <x> digits (8?) it thinks they're "the same" for comparison purposes22:30
FireStorm|MohammadAG forgot u could do that :p22:31
alteregoYeah, it's 522:31
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befordoh I think that's it, I restored contacts from my sim and then restored them from ovi so I have some duplicates, going to merge22:31
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FireStorm|MohammadAG says file don't exist , i try to cd to /home/usr but says access denied :S22:36
MohammadAGdo it as user, not as root22:36
Macerovi stores contacts? :)22:37
FireStorm|su user = must be suid to work properly, WTF22:38
OEXPL@FireStorm: You need to set the setuid bit afaik22:39
Maceri wish docs to go would save in open formats22:39
Macerto use in openoffice22:39
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Macerand that a bt keyboard actually worked correctly on my n90022:39
OEXPLI have some kind of annoying problem now. I can't close the main menu when I touch free space. Does anyone knows how to solve this?22:39
FireStorm|OEXPL how lol i'm new to this :p22:40
OEXPLFirst, gain root22:41
FireStorm|how lol22:41
OEXPLthen chmod u+s [file], so for example in your case: chmod u+s /bin/su22:41
OEXPLinstall rootsh22:42
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FireStorm|can u do it from the shell?22:42
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FireStorm|sorry for all th questions :(22:42
OEXPLnow, At the moment you can't (because you can't become root ironic). You need to do this over the app programm manager.22:43
FireStorm|of course silly me no root from shell = no room22:43
FireStorm|well i'm shit out of luck as i got no 3rg and no wireless22:43
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DocScrutinizerstop that NONSENSE!22:44
DocScrutinizerFireStorm|: type "id"22:45
DocScrutinizeryou ARE user "user"22:45
OEXPLyes he is22:45
DocScrutinizerno su user needed22:45
OEXPLthats correct22:45
DocScrutinizerno gainroot needed22:45
FireStorm|so why can't i cd /home/user then22:45
DocScrutinizerrm /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db22:46
FireStorm|cause i'm in it :p22:46
OEXPLDocScrutinizer, related to what?22:46
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FireStorm|no such directory22:47
FireStorm|how do u list on this phone i know unix / linus is ls22:47
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timeless_mbpFireStorm|:  you tried to cd /home/usr22:48
timeless_mbpusr != user22:48
timeless_mbpnot sure why22:48
timeless_mbpit seems that 3 letter words are not the same as 4 letter words22:48
timeless_mbpreally inconvenient, we know22:48
FireStorm|no i don't22:48
FireStorm|no ididn't22:48
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FireStorm|no i didn't :p22:48
FireStorm|sorry the xmas brandy has got to my head22:48
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timeless_mbp[10:36pm] <FireStorm|> MohammadAG says file don't exist , i try to cd to /home/usr but says access denied :S22:49
FireStorm|i know22:49
FireStorm|i wrote it22:49
FireStorm|but i didn't type it in the shell22:49
FireStorm|but well spotted :)22:49
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FireStorm|rm /u TAB  /ho TAB :p22:49
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FireStorm|very strange22:51
FireStorm|spelt right i can cd into folder n delete file :D22:51
FireStorm|i so need to sort out the wireless ap22:52
FireStorm|FUCKING OVI :@22:53
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FireStorm|told it to sync so it deleted my contacts from ovi :(22:54
luke-jrthat sounds like the rihgt thing to do22:55
FireStorm|grrr MohammadAG not fixed it :(22:56
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FireStorm|just sent a contact a txt and itdoesn't show up as a txt on phone22:57
FireStorm|but i know it's sent cause i get a reply22:57
FireStorm|i come out fo reply and go back into it and it has no contact info againest it22:57
FireStorm|i deleted all contacts on phone, all txt's and that file22:57
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FireStorm|ne one ne ideas :(22:58
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FireStorm|fooking net :(23:01
FireStorm|just sent a contact a txt and itdoesn't show up as a txt on phone23:01
FireStorm|i come out fo reply and go back into it and it has no contact info againest it23:02
FireStorm|i deleted all contacts on phone, all txt's and that file23:02
FireStorm|dunno if ne one rpeluied as i dropped connection :(23:02
FireStorm|DocScrutinizer, timeless_mbp, OEXPL ne ideas?23:05
timeless_mbpi'm busy :)23:05
FireStorm|must have a idea?23:06
OEXPLme too atm, sorry23:07
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DocScrutinizerFireStorm|: enjoy your brandy - come back here with your problem when you're sober again. It's a bad idea to tackle new subtle problems when not even typing works right. And also please try to type more orthographically correct then. 7331 speak not appreciated here23:12
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FireStorm|DocScrutinizer it was a general question as in is it a known bug or is it randdom, i havn't drunk enough to worry about the brandy!!! and 1337 speak?23:17
DocScrutinizer-8FireFly: there are several reports about broken sms storing in PR1.323:18
DocScrutinizer-8there's also a ticket about that in bugs.maemo.org23:19
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FireStorm|to be fair i haven't looked, I just come straight on here :(23:19
FireStorm|it did it before i just deleted the contact and it was ok23:19
DocScrutinizer-8oops sorry FireFly23:19
FireFlyI'll survive :P23:20
FireStorm|i thought DocScrutinizer was taking the piss lol!23:20
FireStorm|DocScrutinizer: ne news on a fix then as it's annoying!23:21
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DocScrutinizer-8sorry I'm not in the mood to look it up right atm either :-)23:22
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DocScrutinizer-8the ticket in bmo has a workaround23:22
FireStorm|not even on xmas day23:22
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FireStorm|ah ok23:22
MohammadAGhi Venemo_N90023:23
Venemo_N900hi guys23:24
Venemo_N900hello MohammadAG :)23:24
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Venemo_N900what's up?23:25
MohammadAGnothing much, just updating windows on the desktop23:26
FireStorm|hell Venemo_N90023:26
Venemo_N900hi FireStorm|23:26
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FireStorm|no idea who u r but eveyrone saying hi lol :D23:26
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Venemo_N900hehe :)23:27
FireStorm|question, my keyboard doesn't allways light up when i open screen?23:28
MohammadAGmce, or kernel-power23:28
FireStorm|it's anoying23:28
FireStorm|cause during the day it lights up23:29
FireStorm|at night when i really need it, it don't!23:29
Venemo_N900when the ambient light sensor detects enough light, it doesn't turn on keyboard lights23:29
FireStorm|i didn't know that!23:30
Venemo_N900also, when you don't fully open the device (eg. only halfway), it doesn't turn on the keyboard lights either23:30
Venemo_N900btw FireStorm| if you dunno who I am, check out :P23:31
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FireStorm|ah cool :d23:33
FireStorm|:D *23:33
DocScrutinizer-8(kbd light) yeah, friggin mce23:33
FireStorm|i guess u can adjust it? so the light's allways on23:33
FireStorm|but then batt life isn't the best :(23:33
DocScrutinizer-8another reason why mce MUST  be opened23:34
Venemo_N900mce is a piece o' crap afaik23:34
DocScrutinizer-8FireStorm|: nope. mce has no config for kbd light afaik23:34
MohammadAGI think we can categorize all reasons under "It's retarded" DocScrutinizer-823:34
FireStorm|well thats crap23:34
MohammadAGcheck /etc/mce/mce.ini just be sure23:35
FireStorm|but on a plus note, i've had the phone since march, and i've only ever seen one person with it!23:35
DocScrutinizer-8MohammadAG: i know that file by heart now23:35
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer-8, how many lines is it? :P23:36
DocScrutinizer-8lemme count23:36
FireStorm|hmm i tried deleting /home/user/.mozilla/rtcom n it didn't have it23:36
DocScrutinizer-8my memory has no line numbers23:36
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FireStorm|let me guess, when my phone rings and it's "locked" it doesn't flash up it just stays dark,  ne fix for that or jut shit out of luck?23:38
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Jaffatimeless_mbp: pong (and merryish hanukah(sp))23:39
timeless_mbpJaffa: that was early dec, but thanks :)23:40
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JaffaDocScrutinizer-8: ta. May skip MWKN this week23:40
timeless_mbpJaffa: so, i'm trying for a christmas update to my strings23:40
Jaffatimeless_mbp: right month ;)23:40
DocScrutinizer-8Jaffa: np23:40
timeless_mbphow does one deal with divergent package versions?23:41
DocScrutinizer-8wtf is ne?23:41
DocScrutinizer-8~dict ne23:41
infobotDictionary 'ne' (1 of 8): \ne\ (n[=e]), adv. [AS. ne. See {No}.] Not; never. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] He never yet no villany ne said.         --Chaucer. [1913 Webster] Note: Ne was formerly used as the universal adverb of negation, and survives in certain compounds, as never (= ne ever) and none (= ne one). Other combinations, now obsolete, will be found in the Vocabulary, as nad, nam, nil. See {Negative}, 2. [1913 Webster].23:41
FireStorm|so is mce the kernel so to speak23:42
Venemo_N900no, the kernel is the Linux kernel23:42
DocScrutinizerwooohooo unsolicited reboot with new battery on N810 :-S23:42
FireStorm|i'm learning Venemo_N900 sorry for dumb quetions!23:43
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Venemo_N900np FireStorm| :)23:43
FireStorm|hmm i think it's time to go have a little read up so i understand abit more about the phone :)23:44
DocScrutinizerFireStorm|: ps ax|grep mce23:45
Venemo_N900you ask your "dumb" questions in a rather polite way (compared to some individuals who come here), so no problem23:45
FireStorm|haha Venemo_N900, i work in i.t myself and i know how some dumb questions come across when you know it all!23:45
Venemo_N900what area do you work in?23:46
FireStorm|another dumb question is there no | and < on the k/b/23:46
Venemo_N900there's a blue arrow called "Fn" key. Fn+ctrl gives you a symbol table.23:47
FireStorm|well atm i'm doing shitty data entry for about 2 half thousand users i AD / notes / EXCHANGE till early next year but then i move over to senior service desk bod doing log and flog / but training the others to move away from that and do more 1st / 2nd line fix23:47
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Venemo_N900nice :)23:47
FireStorm|ah i knew the FN key but never knew you could pull the table up23:47
FireStorm|cause the 3 on the team are useless and know sweet FA about i.t and were just dumped into the job so they wasn't sacked!23:48
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Venemo_N900this is why there is a blue "sym" caption on the ctrl key23:48
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FireStorm|:D lol23:49
FireStorm|i can't see that, the keyboard light isn't on23:49
FireStorm|i have really bad eye site :(23:49
Venemo_N900turn on the light in the room you're in23:50
FireStorm|it is on lol23:50
FireStorm|don't make a difference :(23:50
Venemo_N900sorry then23:50
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FireStorm|thats the only thing i don't like about the phone lol23:50
FireStorm|on screen kb would be ideal :)23:50
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Venemo_N900there is one, but not so good23:51
FireStorm|yer i know :p23:51
FireStorm|hene a on screen kb would be ideal23:51
Venemo_N900on screen kb = setting/text input/use virtual keyboard23:51
timeless_mbp-msgstr "Sent from my Nokia N900 using Nokia Messaging"23:51
timeless_mbp+msgstr "Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging"23:51
timeless_mbpJaffa: *sob*23:51
Venemo_N900(I type on the hw keyboard about 10 times faster than that though)23:51
FireStorm|yer typing on the keyboard i'm not to bad like sending txts etc, but it's using sym' etc i struggle with23:52
Venemo_N900well you can enable the virtual keyboard to see how it works for you23:53
FireStorm|DocScrutinizer why was i doing that/23:53
FireStorm|yer that for a day when i'm not on the brandy and not xmas day :p23:53
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FireStorm|that is big i like23:55
FireStorm|be ok if ur using pen to tap away23:56
FireStorm|i suppoe it's like uing a i phone then :(23:57
Venemo_N900i dunno23:57
alteregoworse, I think capacitive screens are supposed to be better with text input on screen keyboards.23:57
FireStorm|they not to bad to type on i got fat ish fingers and they seem alot better then the black berrys i hate them23:58
FireStorm|right i'll be back in 10 :)23:58
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