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| luke-jr | Merry Christmas! | 07:14 |
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| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: Indeed. | 07:16 |
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| araujo | Merry Christmas everyone | 07:16 |
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| ZogG | штеукуыештп ерштп | 07:28 |
| ZogG | interesting thing* | 07:28 |
| ZogG | re-flashed device twice already just cause everytime /etc/apt/sources.list is empty | 07:29 |
| ZogG | while /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-blahblah.list has all repos | 07:29 |
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| ZogG | DocScrutinizer =( | 07:36 |
| psycho_oreos | I believe HAM uses /etc/source.list.d/foo file instead | 07:39 |
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| psycho_oreos | and I think /etc/apt/source.list was to remain empty unless maybe you install a third party HAM-like application such as fapman | 07:42 |
| psycho_oreos | and anyhow the file in /etc/sources.list.d/ does not seem to be complete either, only the repos you have enabled in HAM would it have its own entry otherwise it would not be in there | 07:43 |
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| ZogG | psycho_oreos true | 07:53 |
| ZogG | reflashed from other computer and installed rootsh before using anying backup restores =) | 07:53 |
| ZogG | i do have catalogues though the source.list is empty | 07:54 |
| Ex-Opesa | Hello. I can't play youtube videos in programs. Cutetube and mytube both don't work. | 07:55 |
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| psycho_oreos | ZogG, chances are the catalogues aren't enabled but I could be wrong.. afaik from my observation catalogues that are enabled with have their own entries inside /etc/sources-list.d/ whereas if they are disabled they are placed in some other location that I am not aware of yet | 08:07 |
| psycho_oreos | Ex-Opesa, maybe those programs don't spoof the flash player version yet | 08:08 |
| Ex-Opesa | psycho_oreos: Maybe. :S | 08:08 |
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| Ex-Opesa | I installed MSN account package for conversations but its not loading. It always "not signed in". What should I do? | 08:09 |
| ZogG | psycho_oreos there are no catalogues and as i add they do not appear | 08:10 |
| ZogG | 3rd reflash solved it | 08:10 |
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| ZogG | maybe somehower other computer i flashed from made problems as at the begining it didn't see n900 at all | 08:10 |
| ZogG | i mean it saw it but not for flashing | 08:11 |
| ZogG | was some usb modules error as forum search said =) | 08:11 |
| ZogG | Ex-Opesa what do you mean it's not loading? where did you install it? pidgin?? did you try to enable it in avability option or if it's pidgin in pidgin? | 08:12 |
| Ex-Opesa | ZogG: I won't like to install pidgin on it too. I want the integrated IM to work like gmail/facebook work nicely. I have already installed msn for im thingy applcation. | 08:13 |
| ZogG | are you sure it's not pidgin plugin? | 08:14 |
| Ex-Opesa | Let me confirm. | 08:14 |
| ZogG | can't check now as i do restore and it downloads 700+ mb of apps and installling them =) | 08:14 |
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| Ex-Opesa | ZogG: Exact application name is "MSN protocol plugin for conversations and contacts" | 08:16 |
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| Ex-Opesa | In description is says "for confirguring msn accs using telepathy-bufferfly connection manager" ^^ | 08:17 |
| Ex-Opesa | Maybe I should use peacon O_o | 08:17 |
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| johnx | aren't there two MSN plugins? | 08:17 |
| johnx | or is it down to one these days? | 08:18 |
| Ex-Opesa | For me the msn protocol plugin" is not working. I will try peacon one now. | 08:18 |
| johnx | I have the 'pidgin plugins for ...' one | 08:18 |
| Ex-Opesa | Okay. | 08:19 |
| johnx | sorry, 'pidgin protocols for Conversations and Contacts' | 08:19 |
| johnx | seems to work ok | 08:19 |
| Ex-Opesa | I see. | 08:20 |
| Ex-Opesa | Its just I don't want to use pidgin on mob even. I already use it on gnome. ^^ | 08:21 |
| johnx | errr, it's a package that adds that protocol support to the builtin conversations app | 08:21 |
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| johnx | it's based on pidgin's protocol handling code, but they're just plugins for "Conversations" and "Contacts" | 08:22 |
| Ex-Opesa | Ah! | 08:22 |
| Ex-Opesa | Thanks for clearing up the confusion johnx. =) | 08:22 |
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| johnx | it weirded me out at first too | 08:22 |
| Ex-Opesa | Yeah. | 08:23 |
| psycho_oreos | ZogG, interesting | 08:25 |
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| Ex-Opesa | johnx, does that pidgin application also indicates who is online/offline. etc? | 08:26 |
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| johnx | errr, pidgin the application? or the 'pidgin protocols ...' package? | 08:35 |
| johnx | they both do, but just wondering :) | 08:35 |
| Ex-Opesa | johnx. Thanks I am using now pidgin for conversation/IM and that msn-peacon didn't provide me with status of contacts. Its all solved now. Thanks :) | 08:36 |
| johnx | keen :) | 08:37 |
| Ex-Opesa | :) | 08:38 |
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| Loom | hi | 09:30 |
| Loom | any1 got a clue how to use the keybind shortcuts with opera? | 09:30 |
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| Loom | any1 got a clue how to use the keybind shortcuts with opera? | 09:48 |
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| RST38h | http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-9912-ex | 10:02 |
| RST38h | =) | 10:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | HoHOho :-D | 10:49 |
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| daxt_ | Hello guys , what is the best app which automatically records incoming and outgoing calls without user involvement ? | 11:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | recaller | 11:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | daxt_: ^^^ | 11:45 |
| alterego | Merry crimbo | 11:47 |
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| comawhite | blah why must installing meego be so bloody complicated | 11:58 |
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| daxt_ | DocScrutinizer according to the comments in the app info page , recaller does not record calls automatically | 12:01 |
| daxt_ | DocScrutinizer what is your experience on it ? | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, that's all new to me. I read that as "recaller's main purpose is to record calls automatically". And it does for me - or did last time I checked | 12:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | something broke it so it occasionally never stopped recording, even after end of call. So I deinstalled it. Need to give it another try and some love | 12:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | comawhite: probably mainly because you don't want to nuke maemo for it, usually | 12:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | comawhite: or what's the part that makes it complicated for you? | 12:07 |
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| RST38h | Moo all | 12:24 |
| RST38h | Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens / Mix the punch, drag out the Dickens / Even though the prospect sickens / Brother, here we go again | 12:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | moo RST38h | 12:33 |
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| alterego | RST38h: I'm having goose today actually :P | 12:37 |
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| RST38h | alterego: Ah you evil bird murderer! | 12:40 |
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| alterego | Hah | 12:42 |
| alterego | Well, I didn't kill it myself :P | 12:42 |
| daxt_ | guys what is the maps app that uses the downloaded map images and not the internet connection to get map images ? | 12:42 |
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| alterego | I am, also, a bit hung over. | 12:44 |
| alterego | Which isn't great. | 12:45 |
| alterego | But it is my own fault :D | 12:45 |
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| RST38h | daxt:pretty much every maemo mapping app will cache images it downloads | 12:53 |
| RST38h | and not download them again | 12:53 |
| alterego | RST38h: Not my app! :P | 12:59 |
| alterego | My app doesn't need to download any maps. | 12:59 |
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| alterego | I had someone request voice navigation via a PM yesterday. | 13:00 |
| alterego | It seems a lot of people really like how it looks, and so they want me to turn it into another guided navigation app. | 13:00 |
| alterego | Which isn't its' purpose at all. | 13:01 |
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| RST38h | alterego: You app is not showing any maps. | 13:12 |
| alterego | Exactly, though it seems people want even mine to become a bog standard maps app. | 13:12 |
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| alterego | I probably will put mapping into v2 | 13:17 |
| alterego | But v2 I estimate wont be around until summer next year. | 13:17 |
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| RST38h | Is your app native? | 13:19 |
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| alterego | Native? | 13:22 |
| alterego | You mean, not Python? | 13:22 |
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| comawhite | alterego, native as in C/C++ :P | 13:25 |
| alterego | Isn't that what I just said? | 13:26 |
| alterego | It's Qt/C++ | 13:26 |
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| alterego | Now to work out why this plugin module is killing my app :( | 13:39 |
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| RST38h | alterego: Yea,I meant "notpython" :) | 13:59 |
| alterego | :) | 13:59 |
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| alterego | "Columbus Navigation Toolkit von Tom Swindell ist ein GPS Navi-Tool mit erweiterten Features für GPS-Navi-Enthusiasten." | 14:14 |
| alterego | Hahah, that translates directly to my package's description field. | 14:14 |
| alterego | That's hilarious. | 14:14 |
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| SpeedEvil | alterego: Just do http://xkcd.com/407/ | 14:26 |
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| alterego | Hahah | 14:27 |
| alterego | Yeah, might put that in. In the style of a gigercounter. | 14:27 |
| SpeedEvil | Naah. | 14:27 |
| SpeedEvil | WWII sonar | 14:27 |
| alterego | How about the original star trek ping | 14:29 |
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| faliva | hi | 14:32 |
| faliva | i have a problem. when trying to install the twitter client Khweeteur, it says that it needs "python-pkg-resources", which can't be installed | 14:32 |
| faliva | i tried installing it manually via apt-get, but it didn't work either | 14:33 |
| faliva | the same problem as this guy here: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/khweeteur/0.0.52-1/ | 14:33 |
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| faliva | someone sugested that i should add "python-pkg-resources (>= 0.6c9-1maemo2)" to the "package Depends:", but i don't know how to do it | 14:33 |
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| RobbieThe1st | faliva: Check you've got extras-devel enabled; I wouldn't be surprised if that package was only in devel. | 14:40 |
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| faliva | okay, but do you know what the guy meant by adding "python-pkg-resources ..." to the "package depends:"? | 14:42 |
| MohammadAG | debian/control, line Depends: | 14:42 |
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| Pradeep | merry chrismas everyone | 14:42 |
| faliva | merry christmas Pradeep | 14:42 |
| faliva | MohammadAG: what's debian/control? | 14:43 |
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| MohammadAG | faliva, a file | 14:43 |
| faliva | ah, okay | 14:44 |
| faliva | thx | 14:44 |
| MohammadAG | yw | 14:44 |
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| alterego | Hey MohammadAG :) | 14:48 |
| MohammadAG | morning alterego :J | 14:49 |
| MohammadAG | s/J/)/ | 14:49 |
| infobot | MohammadAG meant: morning alterego :) | 14:49 |
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| alterego | Oooo, goose carving time! :D | 15:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 12648430! | 15:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | printf "%6x YUMMY" 12648430 | 15:25 |
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| FireStorm| | mrry xmas everyone :) xxx hope u all got hat u want | 15:30 |
| FireStorm| | and if ur not quit on xmas day then haha!!! and if you gone passed xmas day then happy new year :D | 15:30 |
| FireStorm| | :) | 15:31 |
| FireStorm| | now i got a question, is it a knob bug or not? i've had a conact in the phone for good 3 or 4 months, been sending loads txt etc all ok, com to this morning went to send txt and it sent, then i went back into it. and there is no contact info againest the txt but they still exist, then i txted it and it doesn't send but i get a reply | 15:32 |
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| FireStorm| | but then i don't see non eof the txt i sent to that contact | 15:33 |
| FireStorm| | ne ideas? | 15:33 |
| FireStorm| | and it's happened a few times now | 15:33 |
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| FireStorm| | ne one? | 15:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: ping | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: ping | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: Jaffa : if you're looking for MWKN subjects: I'd think http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67316 and http://marble.garage.maemo.org/testing/ is quite worth it (sorry if I missed a previous article covering that :-D) | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | easily qualifies for "killer app" tag :-) | 15:51 |
| jacekowski | what does it do? | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | mapping, routing | 15:51 |
| jacekowski | maps from? | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | OSM | 15:52 |
| jacekowski | turn by turn voice? | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | no voice (yet) | 15:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 1.1 feature | 15:52 |
| jacekowski | so pretty much just offline nokia maps | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, offline routing, offline searching | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | and turn by turn written guidance | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | jit | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's in devel | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems properly optified | 15:56 |
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| FireStorm| | DocScrutinizer ne ideas? | 15:58 |
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| Miles_Davis | hello guys | 16:03 |
| Sicelo | Please tell me what TMO means? Maybe I'm not Googling it right | 16:03 |
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| Miles_Davis | i think it means Time to Move Out | 16:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~tmo | 16:06 |
| infobot | i guess tmo is http://talk.maemo.org, or too much off-topic, or not ~t-mo | 16:06 |
| Sicelo | thanks :) | 16:07 |
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| Miles_Davis | wow, 3 letters can have so many meanings | 16:07 |
| FireStorm| | ? | 16:09 |
| Miles_Davis | hey | 16:11 |
| FireStorm| | hi | 16:11 |
| FireStorm| | :p | 16:11 |
| Miles_Davis | x chat on maemo is really messed up, the ui is utterly cluttered | 16:12 |
| RST38h | Surprise, CptObvious! | 16:12 |
| jacekowski | xchat is messed up regardless | 16:12 |
| FireStorm| | fucking ovi is doing my nut in | 16:12 |
| alterego | That's why I use irssi via screen on one of my servers :) | 16:13 |
| RST38h | FireStorm: left or right one? | 16:13 |
| FireStorm| | both | 16:13 |
| jacekowski | alterego: lags | 16:13 |
| FireStorm| | cause even though the phone is in data suite mode, ovi is saying it isn't :@ | 16:13 |
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| jacekowski | alterego: irssi + remote irssi-proxy | 16:13 |
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| alterego | lags | 16:14 |
| jacekowski | yeah, but not noticeable | 16:14 |
| jacekowski | as you see what you type as you type | 16:14 |
| alterego | And 90% of the time it's not noticable for me. | 16:14 |
| FireStorm| | i'm not liking this phone ne more :( | 16:15 |
| alterego | Yeah, I understand that, but in a way, I like the fact that you know your connection is rubbish. | 16:15 |
| Miles_Davis | buy an iFruit | 16:15 |
| FireStorm| | i'm just going to cry and go back to a brick. | 16:15 |
| FireStorm| | just seems that it lack it's spark ne more :( | 16:16 |
| alterego | jacekowski: I've managed to work out that my problem is a specific dynamic module that I load, would you like to have a look at it and see if you can work out why it's screwing location? | 16:16 |
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| jacekowski | alterego: sure, just remind me what are you talking about | 16:16 |
| alterego | When I did a big refactoring in my app, location services stopped being started. | 16:17 |
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| firestorm|| | and somehing is fucking up on this phone, it's losing contact info when sending txt | 16:17 |
| firestorm|| | S: | 16:17 |
| alterego | I found out that it actually worked fine with an empty plugin directory. | 16:17 |
| alterego | Then I found that it was one specific module that seemed to kill. | 16:18 |
| firestorm|| | just got a txt, i've replied to tit, gone back into it and it says no sms delivery info and no number and no txt msg :S | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | ahm | 16:18 |
| jacekowski | alterego: and that module is? | 16:18 |
| alterego | It adds network streaming support to my app. | 16:18 |
| alterego | I'll upload it. | 16:19 |
| firestorm|| | hmmm i think time to factory rset phone n start again | 16:19 |
| jacekowski | firestorm||: flash it | 16:19 |
| firestorm|| | hmmm i think time to factory rset phone n start again | 16:19 |
| firestorm|| | whats that jacekowski | 16:19 |
| jacekowski | proper factory reset | 16:20 |
| firestorm|| | ah | 16:20 |
| firestorm|| | link to hwo to do it? | 16:20 |
| jacekowski | ~flashing | 16:20 |
| infobot | i guess flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 16:20 |
| firestorm|| | good man :D | 16:20 |
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| alterego | jacekowski: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/libnetwork-plugin.so | 16:20 |
| jacekowski | alterego: hmm, is it just module that breaks it? | 16:20 |
| alterego | jacekowski: yeah | 16:21 |
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| jacekowski | i mean have you tried previous verison with this module | 16:21 |
| alterego | No | 16:21 |
| jacekowski | or it's incompatible | 16:21 |
| alterego | The modularisation was part of my refactoring. | 16:21 |
| alterego | Before they were compiled into my app. | 16:21 |
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| jacekowski | can you upload whole app | 16:22 |
| alterego | http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/columbus-broken.tar.gz | 16:22 |
| alterego | That's all you need. | 16:22 |
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| ZogG | khertan, ping | 16:23 |
| firestorm|| | Public Release 1.2: 10.2010.19-1 | 16:23 |
| firestorm|| | * RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.19-1.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin | 16:23 |
| firestorm|| | o Size: 187852801 | 16:23 |
| firestorm|| | o MD5: 0a8f877fef95b5e67da52c9e42d1fbf5 | 16:23 |
| firestorm|| | is that the least version? | 16:23 |
| ZogG | nope | 16:24 |
| jacekowski | alterego: so i download that tar file, unpack it, download libnetowrk plugin, put it in same folder or in subfolder plugins/? | 16:24 |
| ZogG | the last is RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2 something | 16:25 |
| jacekowski | firestorm||: it says latest version under it | 16:25 |
| alterego | The plugin search path is /opt/usr/lib/columbus/plugins | 16:25 |
| ZogG | anone using khweeteur? | 16:28 |
| alterego | jacekowski: so, I wrote a minimal test app, that attempts to start location services and also just loads that explicit module. | 16:28 |
| jacekowski | hmm | 16:28 |
| jacekowski | does it work? | 16:28 |
| ZogG | after re-flash it meets problem with some python packages while trying to install | 16:28 |
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| alterego | jacekowski: and low and behold, if you start the location service before the load, it works, if you start location services after the load it fails. | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd not recommend flashing, just for fixing a borked SQLite database | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | while odds are the database will survive flashing anyway :-P | 16:30 |
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| MohammadAG | ~seen wazd | 16:30 |
| infobot | wazd <~Andrew@188.123.230.115> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 11d 55m 47s ago, saying: 'Stskeeps: not sure if I can mention it :D'. | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a ticket in bmo about such problems | 16:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | though I can understand jacekowski as 1 2 f337 ! ne 55178 helping 7331spkrs out | 16:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there's Nokia support for that | 16:35 |
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| alterego | jacekowski: I just can't figure it out. | 16:41 |
| RST38h | When do they show DrWho Christmas Special tonight? | 16:42 |
| alterego | 3 hours 15 minutes | 16:42 |
| alterego | 6pm GMT ;) | 16:42 |
| RST38h | Ah...Will have to wait until tomorrow then | 16:42 |
| alterego | Getting late where you are? | 16:44 |
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| alterego | This is just insane .. | 17:00 |
| jacekowski | /home/user/columbus/columbus: symbol lookup error: /home/user/columbus/columbus: undefined symbol: þÞÿçQPixmapC1ERK7QStringPKc6QFlagsIN2Qt19ImageConversionFlagEE | 17:00 |
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| alterego | Hrm, erm. | 17:01 |
| alterego | Missing Qt deps? | 17:01 |
| jacekowski | well, it's strange | 17:01 |
| alterego | I don't get that error. | 17:01 |
| jacekowski | i only get it when i run it on debugger | 17:01 |
| alterego | Oh, hrm. | 17:02 |
| jacekowski | but it may be gdbserver bug | 17:02 |
| alterego | Presumably even when the module is absent? | 17:02 |
| jacekowski | yes | 17:02 |
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| alterego | That symbol should be in Qt Gui module. | 17:03 |
| jacekowski | yeah, it fails on plain gdb as well | 17:03 |
| * alterego has had an idea. | 17:03 | |
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| alterego | I just thought. | 17:03 |
| jacekowski | ApplicationController: Connecting telemetry source signals. | 17:03 |
| jacekowski | /home/user/columbus/columbus: symbol lookup error: /home/user/columbus/columbus: undefined symbol: ððçQPixmapC1ERK7QStringPKc6QFlagsIN2Qt19ImageConversionFlagEE | 17:03 |
| alterego | Crazy | 17:04 |
| alterego | I didn't get that when I was using gdb .. | 17:04 |
| jacekowski | Nokia-N900:~/columbus$ gdb --version | 17:05 |
| jacekowski | GNU gdb (GDB) 6.8.50.20090417-debian | 17:05 |
| alterego | Yeah, same version as me. | 17:06 |
| alterego | I've commented out a load of code and taken a load of source files out of the compilation for that module, and it still fails :/. | 17:07 |
| jacekowski | let me just upgrade everything | 17:10 |
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| alterego | Oh, it's not specific to that module in my test app. | 17:11 |
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| alterego | M_USE_NAMESPACE | 17:15 |
| alterego | Weird, so my minimal test plugin M_USE_NAMESPACE | 17:15 |
| alterego | M_USE_NAMESPACE | 17:15 |
| alterego | and my minimal test case fails. | 17:15 |
| alterego | So maybe this isn't my fault :/ | 17:15 |
| jacekowski | how do you load plugins? | 17:16 |
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| alterego | Using "QPluginLoader" | 17:16 |
| alterego | http://pastie.org/1404873 | 17:17 |
| alterego | That's my test code. | 17:17 |
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| alterego | Strange .. | 17:28 |
| alterego | jacekowski: this works: http://pastie.org/1404873 | 17:29 |
| alterego | But if you move line 16 to after line 18, it breaks. | 17:29 |
| alterego | So the problem isn't even with startUpdates() it seems to happen earlier. When you create the location services controller. | 17:30 |
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| jacekowski | when looking for my gdb problem | 17:42 |
| jacekowski | http://www.mail-archive.com/qt-mobility-feedback@trolltech.com/msg00143.html | 17:42 |
| jacekowski | i found that | 17:42 |
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| alterego | You are reproducing my issue right? | 17:44 |
| alterego | With the plugin in that dir it fails to start the location services? | 17:45 |
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| jacekowski | yes | 17:46 |
| crashanddie | 'sup | 17:46 |
| jacekowski | and btw | 17:47 |
| jacekowski | have you noticed that it segfaults | 17:47 |
| alterego | Cool, so we're on the same page :D | 17:47 |
| alterego | Yeah, when it terminates | 17:47 |
| jacekowski | when that plugin is there | 17:47 |
| alterego | I did notice yeah. Fixed that. | 17:47 |
| alterego | But like I said, I've now ascertained it isn't plugin specific, | 17:47 |
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| FireStorm| | well the mameo webti is out of date :( | 17:58 |
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| alterego | jacekowski: well, I've "fixed" it now :/ | 18:00 |
| alterego | I'll wait until the new year and submit an example to Qt bugs and see what they think. | 18:03 |
| alterego | It's just odd behaviour tbh | 18:03 |
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| shikamaru | does someone manage to sync its n900 with syncevolution over bluetooth ? | 18:31 |
| shikamaru | I keep getting an “underlying transport error”, using syncevolution 1.1 on mandriva cooker and 2010.0 | 18:32 |
| shikamaru | debian gives me that error too but I don’t remember which version is installed | 18:32 |
| shikamaru | (the one that’s provided in squeeze) | 18:32 |
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| shikamaru | if someone get it working, I’d be more than happy to know which version of bluez/syncevolution you are using | 18:35 |
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| shikamaru | (got 1.0beta2 on debian actually) | 18:37 |
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| RST38h | Am I missing something or has the latest FireFox started leaking memory again? | 18:40 |
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| ptl | Maybe it's a new feature | 18:42 |
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| satmd | I have a question | 19:59 |
| satmd | due to a failing charger, my battery was completely depleted | 19:59 |
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| satmd | advanced power says 0:20 remaining and it beeped all the time | 19:59 |
| satmd | 69mAh left | 20:00 |
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| timeless_mbp | Jaffa: ping (and merry christmas?), :) | 20:00 |
| satmd | how can I check how healthy the battery is? | 20:00 |
| alterego | Merry christmas timeless :) | 20:00 |
| satmd | (2h of charging says ~50% charged, 611mAh) | 20:00 |
| timeless_mbp | alterego: N/A | 20:00 |
| satmd | merry christmas you all ;) | 20:01 |
| timeless_mbp | "Account blocked following excessive failed logins. Contact Nokia Care or " | 20:01 |
| timeless_mbp | "your ISP." | 20:01 |
| timeless_mbp | anyone have an opinion on that first sentence? | 20:01 |
| alterego | :/ | 20:02 |
| alterego | What account? Ovi or maemo.org? | 20:02 |
| timeless_mbp | nokia messaging | 20:06 |
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| alterego | Hrm, interesting. | 20:07 |
| alterego | I wonder what it has to do with your ISP :D | 20:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | satmd: 600mAh after 2h of charging? sounds odd | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | ecept if you're charging from USB host | 20:09 |
| timeless_mbp | alterego: nokia messaging can be provided by your isp | 20:10 |
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| alterego | Oh | 20:12 |
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| satmd | yeah, and batterygraph didn't update for 2 hours, then manually | 20:16 |
| satmd | an instant rise 61->611 | 20:16 |
| Ro9u3oR | Ive been trying to use aircrack to test my network security but im having problems using the program | 20:16 |
| satmd | yes, usb host | 20:16 |
| Ro9u3oR | anyone know of a good tutorial | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started | 20:19 |
| Ro9u3oR | Thanks Doc | 20:19 |
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| timeless_mbp | finnish subtitles *suck* | 20:21 |
| timeless_mbp | a guy goes through a line "You say <am[ae]to>, I say <am[ah]to>" | 20:21 |
| timeless_mbp | and the subtitles distinguish | 20:22 |
| timeless_mbp | s/subtitles/subtitles *don't*/ | 20:22 |
| infobot | timeless_mbp meant: and the subtitles *don't* distinguish | 20:22 |
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| RST38h | <yawn> | 20:26 |
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| timeless_mbp | thanks | 20:26 |
| timeless_mbp | right | 20:27 |
| timeless_mbp | so, i need to make a binary patch | 20:27 |
| timeless_mbp | is sed binary safe? | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, mostly | 20:28 |
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| timeless_mbp | DocScrutinizer: ping | 21:17 |
| timeless_mbp | #!/usr/bin/perl | 21:17 |
| timeless_mbp | ODSPATH=/usr/lib/modest/mail-plugins/libodsplugin.so | 21:17 |
| timeless_mbp | sed -i 's/%I:%M %p/%l:%M %P/' $ODSPATH | 21:17 |
| timeless_mbp | exit 0 | 21:17 |
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| * timeless_mbp isn't quite sure when to do that | 21:19 | |
| timeless_mbp | in theory it should be done any time there's a chance that the file in question has changed | 21:19 |
| * timeless_mbp sighs | 21:21 | |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, what exactly is that for? | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | the plugin that is | 21:28 |
| timeless_mbp | "nokia messaging" | 21:28 |
| timeless_mbp | it's for giving me headaches | 21:28 |
| MohammadAG | and why perl? looks like sh to me | 21:29 |
| timeless_mbp | oh heh | 21:29 |
| timeless_mbp | i changed my mind about how i want to do it | 21:30 |
| alterego | Heh | 21:35 |
| timeless_mbp | right, so, assume it said #!sh | 21:36 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, grep it for the string, if it returns true, sed it, if not, do nothing | 21:39 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: alright | 21:40 |
| MohammadAG | I think modest sends a signal every time there's a refresh | 21:40 |
| timeless_mbp | ? | 21:40 |
| timeless_mbp | is the grep valid in the form grep X > /dev/null && ? | 21:40 |
| alterego | dagnamit | 21:41 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer does it like this in his starhash-enabler package | 21:42 |
| MohammadAG | if ! grep "\[supplementary\]" /home/user/.osso/call-ui.ini >/dev/null 2>&1; | 21:42 |
| MohammadAG | #if file doesn't exist or doesn't contain the easter egg | 21:42 |
| MohammadAG | so I guess grep "%I:%M %p" $ODSPATH 2>&1 /dev/null should do it | 21:43 |
| alterego | Hrm | 21:44 |
| MohammadAG | signal sender=:1.273 -> dest=(null destination) serial=270 path=/com/nokia/modest; interface=com.nokia.modest; member=folder_updated | 21:44 |
| MohammadAG | string "Nokia MessagingID_store" | 21:44 |
| MohammadAG | string "inbox" | 21:44 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: wait | 21:44 |
| timeless_mbp | do you *use* nokia messaging? | 21:44 |
| MohammadAG | are extended batteries for laptops worth it? | 21:44 |
| MohammadAG | yes, I do | 21:44 |
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| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: can i get you to try a package at some point? | 21:48 |
| timeless_mbp | (it isn't ready yet) | 21:48 |
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| * timeless_mbp frowns | 21:48 | |
| MohammadAG | yeah sure | 21:48 |
| timeless_mbp | cool | 21:48 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: I've got an extended battery for my laptop | 21:49 |
| Ex-Opesa | Hello! Why doesn't maemo's picture viewer doesn't keep "custom folder" for next start of the application too? | 21:49 |
| alterego | But I the original battery failed quite bad so I thought if I'm gonna buy one I might as well get the higher capacity. | 21:49 |
| Ex-Opesa | I don't want it to show "All images" at every start. | 21:49 |
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| alterego | And I'm really happy, I get about 3-4 hours now. | 21:50 |
| alterego | Maybe more, but generally I'm quite a hard user. | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | Ex-Opesa: because the ui designers were stupid | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | and the engineers follow orders to the letter | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | Ex-Opesa: you might be able to use a command line to start it to something else... | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | depending on how friendly the engineers were | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | you can for instance open image viewer to a certain image | 21:51 |
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| Ex-Opesa | timeless_mbp: Is there any other way? maybe like some edit of config files throught nano? I really don't want it to show my "all images" at start... :/ | 21:51 |
| Ex-Opesa | Yeah | 21:52 |
| alterego | That annoys me too .. | 21:52 |
| timeless_mbp | sorry, i don't feel like checking | 21:52 |
| timeless_mbp | maybe you can trick alterego into poking around :) | 21:52 |
| * timeless_mbp needs to hunt for some packages :( | 21:52 | |
| MohammadAG | there's a way to open images via DBus, indeed | 21:52 |
| Ex-Opesa | I found a relevant thread to my question. ^ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39455 | 21:53 |
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| Ex-Opesa | Salam alaikum MohammadAG | 21:56 |
| MohammadAG | god I hate my internet connection | 21:56 |
| MohammadAG | o/ :) | 21:56 |
| MohammadAG | keep it english in here, feel free to PM me | 21:57 |
| Ex-Opesa | Okay. =) | 21:57 |
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| alterego | I want to define an interface for my logging system. | 22:00 |
| alterego | But my interface requires signals/slots from Qt, which means I have to inherit from QObject, thus breaking all of reality. | 22:01 |
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| * MohammadAG lols @ #2 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67441 | 22:04 | |
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| Macer | MohammadAG: hahaha | 22:05 |
| Macer | yeah thats pretty funny | 22:05 |
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| FireStorm| | where can i get latest version of firmware from? | 22:09 |
| FireStorm| | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_UK_variant_firmware - doesn't have it :( | 22:09 |
| MohammadAG | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php | 22:11 |
| FireStorm| | ty :D | 22:11 |
| FireStorm| | easier way then havig to open phone though ;( | 22:11 |
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| FireStorm| | havig issues with phone and it keeps losing contact detial in txts e.g i send txt all ok go back into txt and it says delivery failed no sms data and then there is no number etc | 22:13 |
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| FireStorm| | somoene said do factory reset? | 22:13 |
| FireStorm| | or is it known bug? any ideas MohammadAG? | 22:13 |
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| MohammadAG | no idea tbh | 22:15 |
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| FireStorm| | MohammadAG did u reply :( connection timed out :( | 22:20 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> no idea tbh | 22:20 |
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| MohammadAG | I'd just clear the databases (IM ones) | 22:20 |
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| FireStorm| | no idea? | 22:21 |
| FireStorm| | how | 22:21 |
| MohammadAG | well, backup first | 22:21 |
| FireStorm| | yup | 22:21 |
| MohammadAG | then just rm /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 22:21 |
| FireStorm| | can i do that through the brosing to phone from pc as not got ssh etc installed on it | 22:24 |
| MohammadAG | just open terminal and type in rm .rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 22:25 |
| MohammadAG | use tab to autocomplete filenames, it's not that long :P | 22:26 |
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| FireStorm| | lol :) | 22:27 |
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| beford | hey. any idea why the conversation/sms app wont show names from my contact list, abnd just numbers? | 22:29 |
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| timeless_mbp | beford: typically a number is listed in multiple contacts | 22:30 |
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| timeless_mbp | the app is like pavlov's dog | 22:30 |
| timeless_mbp | it can't decide | 22:30 |
| timeless_mbp | also, technically if you have two contacts whose number has the same last <x> digits (8?) it thinks they're "the same" for comparison purposes | 22:30 |
| FireStorm| | MohammadAG forgot u could do that :p | 22:31 |
| alterego | Yeah, it's 5 | 22:31 |
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| beford | oh I think that's it, I restored contacts from my sim and then restored them from ovi so I have some duplicates, going to merge | 22:31 |
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| FireStorm| | MohammadAG says file don't exist , i try to cd to /home/usr but says access denied :S | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | umm | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | do it as user, not as root | 22:36 |
| Macer | ovi stores contacts? :) | 22:37 |
| FireStorm| | su user = must be suid to work properly, WTF | 22:38 |
| OEXPL | @FireStorm: You need to set the setuid bit afaik | 22:39 |
| Macer | i wish docs to go would save in open formats | 22:39 |
| Macer | to use in openoffice | 22:39 |
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| Macer | and that a bt keyboard actually worked correctly on my n900 | 22:39 |
| OEXPL | I have some kind of annoying problem now. I can't close the main menu when I touch free space. Does anyone knows how to solve this? | 22:39 |
| FireStorm| | OEXPL how lol i'm new to this :p | 22:40 |
| OEXPL | First, gain root | 22:41 |
| FireStorm| | how lol | 22:41 |
| OEXPL | then chmod u+s [file], so for example in your case: chmod u+s /bin/su | 22:41 |
| OEXPL | install rootsh | 22:42 |
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| FireStorm| | can u do it from the shell? | 22:42 |
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| FireStorm| | sorry for all th questions :( | 22:42 |
| OEXPL | now, At the moment you can't (because you can't become root ironic). You need to do this over the app programm manager. | 22:43 |
| OEXPL | *no | 22:43 |
| FireStorm| | lol | 22:43 |
| FireStorm| | of course silly me no root from shell = no room | 22:43 |
| FireStorm| | well i'm shit out of luck as i got no 3rg and no wireless | 22:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | stop that NONSENSE! | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | FireStorm|: type "id" | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | you ARE user "user" | 22:45 |
| OEXPL | yes he is | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | no su user needed | 22:45 |
| OEXPL | thats correct | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | no gainroot needed | 22:45 |
| FireStorm| | so why can't i cd /home/user then | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | rm /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 22:46 |
| FireStorm| | cause i'm in it :p | 22:46 |
| OEXPL | DocScrutinizer, related to what? | 22:46 |
| OEXPL | nvm | 22:47 |
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| FireStorm| | no such directory | 22:47 |
| FireStorm| | how do u list on this phone i know unix / linus is ls | 22:47 |
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| timeless_mbp | FireStorm|: you tried to cd /home/usr | 22:48 |
| timeless_mbp | usr != user | 22:48 |
| timeless_mbp | not sure why | 22:48 |
| timeless_mbp | it seems that 3 letter words are not the same as 4 letter words | 22:48 |
| timeless_mbp | really inconvenient, we know | 22:48 |
| FireStorm| | no i don't | 22:48 |
| FireStorm| | no ididn't | 22:48 |
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| FireStorm| | no i didn't :p | 22:48 |
| FireStorm| | sorry the xmas brandy has got to my head | 22:48 |
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| timeless_mbp | [10:36pm] <FireStorm|> MohammadAG says file don't exist , i try to cd to /home/usr but says access denied :S | 22:49 |
| FireStorm| | i know | 22:49 |
| FireStorm| | i wrote it | 22:49 |
| FireStorm| | but i didn't type it in the shell | 22:49 |
| FireStorm| | :p | 22:49 |
| FireStorm| | but well spotted :) | 22:49 |
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| FireStorm| | rm /u TAB /ho TAB :p | 22:49 |
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| FireStorm| | very strange | 22:51 |
| FireStorm| | spelt right i can cd into folder n delete file :D | 22:51 |
| FireStorm| | haha | 22:51 |
| FireStorm| | i so need to sort out the wireless ap | 22:52 |
| FireStorm| | FUCKING OVI :@ | 22:53 |
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| FireStorm| | told it to sync so it deleted my contacts from ovi :( | 22:54 |
| luke-jr | that sounds like the rihgt thing to do | 22:55 |
| FireStorm| | :@ | 22:56 |
| FireStorm| | grrr MohammadAG not fixed it :( | 22:56 |
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| FireStorm| | just sent a contact a txt and itdoesn't show up as a txt on phone | 22:57 |
| FireStorm| | but i know it's sent cause i get a reply | 22:57 |
| FireStorm| | i come out fo reply and go back into it and it has no contact info againest it | 22:57 |
| FireStorm| | i deleted all contacts on phone, all txt's and that file | 22:57 |
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| FireStorm| | ne one ne ideas :( | 22:58 |
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| FireStorm| | fooking net :( | 23:01 |
| FireStorm| | just sent a contact a txt and itdoesn't show up as a txt on phone | 23:01 |
| FireStorm| | i come out fo reply and go back into it and it has no contact info againest it | 23:02 |
| FireStorm| | i deleted all contacts on phone, all txt's and that file | 23:02 |
| FireStorm| | dunno if ne one rpeluied as i dropped connection :( | 23:02 |
| FireStorm| | DocScrutinizer, timeless_mbp, OEXPL ne ideas? | 23:05 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm busy :) | 23:05 |
| FireStorm| | :( | 23:06 |
| FireStorm| | must have a idea? | 23:06 |
| OEXPL | me too atm, sorry | 23:07 |
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| FireStorm| | ;( | 23:09 |
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| Macer | hm | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | FireStorm|: enjoy your brandy - come back here with your problem when you're sober again. It's a bad idea to tackle new subtle problems when not even typing works right. And also please try to type more orthographically correct then. 7331 speak not appreciated here | 23:12 |
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| FireStorm| | DocScrutinizer it was a general question as in is it a known bug or is it randdom, i havn't drunk enough to worry about the brandy!!! and 1337 speak? | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | FireFly: there are several reports about broken sms storing in PR1.3 | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | there's also a ticket about that in bugs.maemo.org | 23:19 |
| FireStorm| | thanks | 23:19 |
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| FireStorm| | to be fair i haven't looked, I just come straight on here :( | 23:19 |
| FireStorm| | it did it before i just deleted the contact and it was ok | 23:19 |
| FireFly | s/FireFly/FireStorm|/ | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | oops sorry FireFly | 23:19 |
| alterego | Heh, | 23:20 |
| FireFly | I'll survive :P | 23:20 |
| FireStorm| | i thought DocScrutinizer was taking the piss lol! | 23:20 |
| FireStorm| | DocScrutinizer: ne news on a fix then as it's annoying! | 23:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer-8 | sorry I'm not in the mood to look it up right atm either :-) | 23:22 |
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| FireStorm| | ;( | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | the ticket in bmo has a workaround | 23:22 |
| FireStorm| | not even on xmas day | 23:22 |
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| FireStorm| | ah ok | 23:22 |
| MohammadAG | hi Venemo_N900 | 23:23 |
| Venemo_N900 | hi guys | 23:24 |
| Venemo_N900 | hello MohammadAG :) | 23:24 |
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| Venemo_N900 | what's up? | 23:25 |
| MohammadAG | nothing much, just updating windows on the desktop | 23:26 |
| FireStorm| | hell Venemo_N900 | 23:26 |
| FireStorm| | o | 23:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | hi FireStorm| | 23:26 |
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| FireStorm| | no idea who u r but eveyrone saying hi lol :D | 23:26 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hehe :) | 23:27 |
| FireStorm| | question, my keyboard doesn't allways light up when i open screen? | 23:28 |
| Venemo_N900 | dunno | 23:28 |
| MohammadAG | mce, or kernel-power | 23:28 |
| FireStorm| | it's anoying | 23:28 |
| Venemo_N900 | well | 23:28 |
| FireStorm| | cause during the day it lights up | 23:29 |
| FireStorm| | at night when i really need it, it don't! | 23:29 |
| Venemo_N900 | when the ambient light sensor detects enough light, it doesn't turn on keyboard lights | 23:29 |
| FireStorm| | eoe | 23:30 |
| FireStorm| | wow | 23:30 |
| FireStorm| | i didn't know that! | 23:30 |
| Venemo_N900 | also, when you don't fully open the device (eg. only halfway), it doesn't turn on the keyboard lights either | 23:30 |
| Venemo_N900 | btw FireStorm| if you dunno who I am, check out http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67139 :P | 23:31 |
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| FireStorm| | ah cool :d | 23:33 |
| FireStorm| | :D * | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | (kbd light) yeah, friggin mce | 23:33 |
| FireStorm| | i guess u can adjust it? so the light's allways on | 23:33 |
| FireStorm| | but then batt life isn't the best :( | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | another reason why mce MUST be opened | 23:34 |
| Venemo_N900 | mce is a piece o' crap afaik | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | FireStorm|: nope. mce has no config for kbd light afaik | 23:34 |
| FireStorm| | :( | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | I think we can categorize all reasons under "It's retarded" DocScrutinizer-8 | 23:34 |
| FireStorm| | well thats crap | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | check /etc/mce/mce.ini just be sure | 23:35 |
| FireStorm| | but on a plus note, i've had the phone since march, and i've only ever seen one person with it! | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | MohammadAG: i know that file by heart now | 23:35 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer-8, how many lines is it? :P | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | lemme count | 23:36 |
| MohammadAG | ha! | 23:36 |
| FireStorm| | hmm i tried deleting /home/user/.mozilla/rtcom n it didn't have it | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | my memory has no line numbers | 23:36 |
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| FireStorm| | let me guess, when my phone rings and it's "locked" it doesn't flash up it just stays dark, ne fix for that or jut shit out of luck? | 23:38 |
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| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: pong (and merryish hanukah(sp)) | 23:39 |
| timeless_mbp | Jaffa: that was early dec, but thanks :) | 23:40 |
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| Jaffa | DocScrutinizer-8: ta. May skip MWKN this week | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | Jaffa: so, i'm trying for a christmas update to my strings | 23:40 |
| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: right month ;) | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | Jaffa: np | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | hey | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | how does one deal with divergent package versions? | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | wtf is ne? | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer-8 | ~dict ne | 23:41 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'ne' (1 of 8): \ne\ (n[=e]), adv. [AS. ne. See {No}.] Not; never. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] He never yet no villany ne said. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster] Note: Ne was formerly used as the universal adverb of negation, and survives in certain compounds, as never (= ne ever) and none (= ne one). Other combinations, now obsolete, will be found in the Vocabulary, as nad, nam, nil. See {Negative}, 2. [1913 Webster]. | 23:41 |
| FireStorm| | so is mce the kernel so to speak | 23:42 |
| Venemo_N900 | no, the kernel is the Linux kernel | 23:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | wooohooo unsolicited reboot with new battery on N810 :-S | 23:42 |
| FireStorm| | ok | 23:43 |
| FireStorm| | i'm learning Venemo_N900 sorry for dumb quetions! | 23:43 |
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| Venemo_N900 | np FireStorm| :) | 23:43 |
| FireStorm| | questions* | 23:43 |
| FireStorm| | hmm i think it's time to go have a little read up so i understand abit more about the phone :) | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | FireStorm|: ps ax|grep mce | 23:45 |
| Venemo_N900 | you ask your "dumb" questions in a rather polite way (compared to some individuals who come here), so no problem | 23:45 |
| FireStorm| | haha Venemo_N900, i work in i.t myself and i know how some dumb questions come across when you know it all! | 23:45 |
| Venemo_N900 | :) | 23:46 |
| Venemo_N900 | what area do you work in? | 23:46 |
| FireStorm| | another dumb question is there no | and < on the k/b/ | 23:46 |
| Venemo_N900 | there's a blue arrow called "Fn" key. Fn+ctrl gives you a symbol table. | 23:47 |
| FireStorm| | well atm i'm doing shitty data entry for about 2 half thousand users i AD / notes / EXCHANGE till early next year but then i move over to senior service desk bod doing log and flog / but training the others to move away from that and do more 1st / 2nd line fix | 23:47 |
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| Venemo_N900 | nice :) | 23:47 |
| FireStorm| | ah i knew the FN key but never knew you could pull the table up | 23:47 |
| FireStorm| | cause the 3 on the team are useless and know sweet FA about i.t and were just dumped into the job so they wasn't sacked! | 23:48 |
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| Venemo_N900 | this is why there is a blue "sym" caption on the ctrl key | 23:48 |
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| FireStorm| | :D lol | 23:49 |
| FireStorm| | i can't see that, the keyboard light isn't on | 23:49 |
| FireStorm| | i have really bad eye site :( | 23:49 |
| FireStorm| | sight* | 23:49 |
| Venemo_N900 | :( | 23:49 |
| Venemo_N900 | turn on the light in the room you're in | 23:50 |
| FireStorm| | it is on lol | 23:50 |
| FireStorm| | don't make a difference :( | 23:50 |
| Venemo_N900 | oh | 23:50 |
| Venemo_N900 | sorry then | 23:50 |
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| FireStorm| | thats the only thing i don't like about the phone lol | 23:50 |
| Venemo_N900 | hm | 23:50 |
| FireStorm| | on screen kb would be ideal :) | 23:50 |
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| Venemo_N900 | there is one, but not so good | 23:51 |
| FireStorm| | yer i know :p | 23:51 |
| FireStorm| | hene a on screen kb would be ideal | 23:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | on screen kb = setting/text input/use virtual keyboard | 23:51 |
| timeless_mbp | -msgstr "Sent from my Nokia N900 using Nokia Messaging" | 23:51 |
| timeless_mbp | +msgstr "Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging" | 23:51 |
| timeless_mbp | Jaffa: *sob* | 23:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | (I type on the hw keyboard about 10 times faster than that though) | 23:51 |
| FireStorm| | yer typing on the keyboard i'm not to bad like sending txts etc, but it's using sym' etc i struggle with | 23:52 |
| Venemo_N900 | well you can enable the virtual keyboard to see how it works for you | 23:53 |
| FireStorm| | DocScrutinizer why was i doing that/ | 23:53 |
| FireStorm| | yer that for a day when i'm not on the brandy and not xmas day :p | 23:53 |
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| FireStorm| | wow | 23:55 |
| FireStorm| | that is big i like | 23:55 |
| FireStorm| | be ok if ur using pen to tap away | 23:56 |
| Venemo_N900 | mhm | 23:56 |
| FireStorm| | i suppoe it's like uing a i phone then :( | 23:57 |
| Venemo_N900 | i dunno | 23:57 |
| alterego | worse, I think capacitive screens are supposed to be better with text input on screen keyboards. | 23:57 |
| FireStorm| | they not to bad to type on i got fat ish fingers and they seem alot better then the black berrys i hate them | 23:58 |
| FireStorm| | right i'll be back in 10 :) | 23:58 |
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