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| alterego | I hate how appman can't even load fscking catalog 1 in 5 times -_- | 00:30 |
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| MohammadAG | use fapman | 00:31 |
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| alterego | pfft | 00:32 |
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| spiritd | is it possible to run multiple tabs in easy debian? | 00:32 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, go hardcore and use apt-get | 00:32 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, and if you feel that's not hardcore enough, unpack files manually and write changes to dpkg's status area | 00:33 |
| GasCan | spiritd: Desktop's you mean? | 00:33 |
| alterego | heh | 00:33 |
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| Pradeep | hello | 00:34 |
| Pradeep | everyone am new to maemo | 00:34 |
| Pradeep | just got my n900 | 00:34 |
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| Pradeep | is it possible to connect my phone to my LAN network via usb | 00:36 |
| alterego | it is with a bit of iptables | 00:37 |
| alterego | Or bridging network interfaces. | 00:37 |
| Pradeep | hw? cos i use kubuntu | 00:38 |
| Pradeep | besides i dont hv any wireless network around | 00:38 |
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| alterego | No, no hw | 00:41 |
| alterego | It's pretty easy. | 00:41 |
| alterego | I'd recommend the bridging approach, one command to link two network interfaces together. | 00:42 |
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| alterego | You'll need to install bridge-utils under kubuntu and the research brctl | 00:43 |
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| alterego | s/the/then | 00:43 |
| spiritd | GasCan nope ... i mean tabs in terminal | 00:44 |
| spiritd | Pradeep you can use sample scripts from openvpn sources | 00:45 |
| spiritd | ...for bridging | 00:45 |
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| Pradeep | hmmm is dere any tutorial aside d one on maemo site | 00:50 |
| Pradeep | hmmm is dere any tutorial aside d one o | 00:50 |
| alterego | For what? | 00:50 |
| Pradeep | for usb networking | 00:51 |
| Pradeep | cos i dont hv wireless around me | 00:51 |
| Pradeep | spiritd what do u mean | 00:53 |
| alterego | What exactly are you trying to do? | 00:53 |
| Pradeep | ok nw | 00:53 |
| spiritd | i just heard something about bridging... and i know nice script for creating bridge from 2 and more adapters | 00:54 |
| spiritd | network adapter | 00:54 |
| Pradeep | i got the phone i want to run updates | 00:54 |
| Pradeep | but i dont have wireless networks around me | 00:54 |
| alterego | Okay, and you want to run the updates through you home LAN | 00:54 |
| alterego | Fair enough | 00:54 |
| korhojoa | why not just get pr1.3 and flash it | 00:54 |
| BCMM | that's dependant on the OS the computer runs | 00:55 |
| korhojoa | suddenly, update | 00:55 |
| Pradeep | nw i want to know if i could connect via my usb to m laptop which connected to d network | 00:55 |
| alterego | kubuntu, he said. | 00:55 |
| alterego | Pradeep: you can | 00:55 |
| BCMM | Pradeep: yes, kubuntu does USB networking, and so does the n900 | 00:55 |
| alterego | Unfortunately the easy way I don't know how to do under kubuntu, only ubuntu using the network manager. | 00:56 |
| Pradeep | so hw do i go about it | 00:56 |
| BCMM | imho, the easy way would be to run dnsmasq on the pc, but then again i'm probably weird | 00:56 |
| alterego | You need to become root on yhe N900 | 00:56 |
| BCMM | alterego: without a network connection to install rootsh with? | 00:56 |
| * alterego shrugs :) | 00:56 | |
| Pradeep | don that i installed rootsh | 00:56 |
| Pradeep | which enabled that | 00:57 |
| alterego | Okay, become root | 00:57 |
| alterego | plug N900 in to your computer | 00:57 |
| Pradeep | ok | 00:57 |
| alterego | select pc suite mode | 00:57 |
| BCMM | the hard way is to just set up the IP address, dns server, and route manually | 00:57 |
| alterego | on the n900, as root, type: ifup usb0 | 00:58 |
| Pradeep | dere is default ip of 192.168.2.15 | 00:58 |
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| Pradeep | but my network is 192.168.0.0/24 | 00:59 |
| Pradeep | so | 00:59 |
| alterego | Now, on your kubuntu machine use network manager to edit the usb network interface that now shows | 00:59 |
| alterego | Under IPv4 settings, change DHCP to "share this computers internet connection" | 01:00 |
| Pradeep | u mean my mobilebroadband | 01:00 |
| Pradeep | cos i cant see any usb | 01:00 |
| alterego | No, | 01:01 |
| alterego | Well, it should be there | 01:01 |
| alterego | But I guess this is what you get when you use kubuntu over ubuntu | 01:01 |
| Pradeep | i can c wired, wireless, mobile broadband,vpn and dsl | 01:01 |
| alterego | It's under wired | 01:02 |
| alterego | "auto usb" under wired connections . | 01:03 |
| Pradeep | ok | 01:03 |
| Pradeep | stil here | 01:04 |
| alterego | Hrm, can't remember the dhcp command .. | 01:04 |
| Pradeep | u mean using iptables | 01:05 |
| Pradeep | ? | 01:05 |
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| alterego | No | 01:05 |
| alterego | Ah, right, now on the N900 as root run udhcpc usb0 | 01:06 |
| alterego | And try to ping something | 01:06 |
| alterego | like www.google.co.uk for instance | 01:06 |
| alterego | I can't test this setup, it's all hypothetical. But it should work :) | 01:07 |
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| Pradeep | ok | 01:07 |
| Pradeep | i would try it out | 01:07 |
| Pradeep | are you always in here | 01:08 |
| Pradeep | huh | 01:08 |
| alterego | yup | 01:08 |
| alterego | It should work fine :) | 01:08 |
| Pradeep | ok | 01:09 |
| alterego | Actually I can test it, hang on. | 01:09 |
| Pradeep | any tips for me | 01:09 |
| Pradeep | i mean apps n all | 01:09 |
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| Pradeep | was something called h-e-n | 01:09 |
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| Pradeep | a usb app | 01:09 |
| Pradeep | but did not see it in d repo | 01:10 |
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| alterego | udhcpc -i usb0 actually | 01:15 |
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| alterego | And I can confirm it works. | 01:15 |
| alterego | I'm tethered to my netbook, which is connected to the internet through my N900. | 01:15 |
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| Pradeep | wow just nw | 01:16 |
| Pradeep | no other settings at all | 01:16 |
| alterego | I then setup USB networking as I just described. And now the N900 is using the internet through my netbook, which is using the internet through the N900s modem. | 01:16 |
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| alterego | But basically, yeah, that's all you need | 01:17 |
| alterego | setup 'shared connection' instead of dhcp under auto usb on k/ubuntu network manager, the udhcpc -i usb0 as root on the N900 | 01:17 |
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| alterego | Make sure the N900 isn't connected via 3G or wifi with its' own network settings and you're set | 01:18 |
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| alterego | I should document a little howto on the meego wiki for this actually, quite a neat setup. | 01:18 |
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| jacekowski | alterego: that configuration has issues | 01:19 |
| jacekowski | alterego: if somebody has like a cable internet where modem is directly plugged in into pc and you have wan ip directly on your ethernet interface | 01:19 |
| alterego | ? | 01:21 |
| jacekowski | shared connection | 01:21 |
| jacekowski | it will just bridge eth with usb | 01:21 |
| alterego | yeah | 01:21 |
| alterego | And? | 01:21 |
| jacekowski | and that will fail if you have cable internet | 01:21 |
| jacekowski | because isp will just issue ip address to one specific mac | 01:22 |
| alterego | It uses nat doesn't it? | 01:22 |
| jacekowski | no | 01:22 |
| alterego | I thought ubuntu used NAT .. | 01:22 |
| jacekowski | depends | 01:22 |
| alterego | Interesting | 01:22 |
| jacekowski | there are two options | 01:22 |
| jacekowski | one will bridge | 01:22 |
| jacekowski | one will nat | 01:22 |
| alterego | Well, good to know. | 01:22 |
| alterego | Does it choose at runtime? | 01:23 |
| jacekowski | no | 01:23 |
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| alterego | Because I told him a specific option :P | 01:23 |
| alterego | Which I thought uses nat and puts everything through it's own private subnet | 01:23 |
| jacekowski | in 9.10 i kde version of network manager there were two options | 01:23 |
| Pradeep | i wish i was on my desk in the office | 01:23 |
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| alterego | Hrm, okay | 01:24 |
| jacekowski | i never used gnome | 01:24 |
| Pradeep | atm am using gprs on the fone | 01:24 |
| jacekowski | but i suppose gnome by now should have copied that from kde | 01:24 |
| Pradeep | and it so expensive | 01:24 |
| jacekowski | Pradeep: we have it for free | 01:24 |
| alterego | Well, under ubuntu gnome I think there's just one and its' definitely setting up a private subnet and using nat | 01:24 |
| Pradeep | serious | 01:24 |
| jacekowski | ahh | 01:25 |
| jacekowski | nigeria | 01:25 |
| Pradeep | i just suscribe for only 10mb | 01:25 |
| jacekowski | i'm surprised that you have gsm there at all | 01:25 |
| Pradeep | cant open html unless everything wud finish | 01:26 |
| Pradeep | lol | 01:26 |
| Pradeep | lol | 01:26 |
| Pradeep | why | 01:26 |
| Pradeep | mtn, glo, airtel, etisalat | 01:26 |
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| jacekowski | i'm not going to say because that would probably get me banned | 01:27 |
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| jacekowski | my laptop got stolen in nigeria | 01:28 |
| Pradeep | sorry abt that | 01:28 |
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| Pradeep | excuse me what does overclocking do to your n900 ? | 01:33 |
| doc|home | did you steal his laptop? | 01:33 |
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| BCMM | Pradeep: makes the CPU go faster and burn out sooner | 01:33 |
| jacekowski | ~overclocking | 01:33 |
| infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" | 01:33 |
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| comawhite | lol | 01:36 |
| * comawhite drops luke-jr in the frying pan "This is your brain on Windows. Any questions?" | 01:37 | |
| comawhite | :P | 01:37 |
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| blackthorne | Hi | 01:40 |
| comawhite | Hallo | 01:40 |
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| OEXPL | Hello, so, noob here: http://maemo.nokia.com/news/new-n900-software-update-available/ This means that the N900 now can have the new and free Ovi Navi stuff? I just haven't my now to see myself. | 02:01 |
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| ToJa92 | You already have Ovi Maps on the N900. not sure if navigation is there or not | 02:04 |
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| OEXPL | But afaik not the newest version. | 02:04 |
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| ToJa92 | the news you're referring to is old.. 25th october | 02:13 |
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| monkeyiq | anyone know an app to limit the duration of a call on the n900? | 02:15 |
| alterego | Wait, do I need 11 votes for promotion?!? | 02:15 |
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| andre__ | OEXPL: so far Ovi maps navigation is not available for the N900, and for Maemo5 I don't expect it to happen either | 02:18 |
| alterego | I do, I freakin' need 11 votes -_- | 02:18 |
| andre__ | OEXPL, plus in the link you posted there is nothing mentioned about navigation | 02:18 |
| alterego | Stupid (10 out of 10) lie | 02:18 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, no, you need 10 days | 02:18 |
| Venemo_N900 | bye bye guys | 02:18 |
| Venemo_N900 | good evening | 02:19 |
| OEXPL | yeah I just tough that the suite includes the funny maps | 02:19 |
| OEXPL | Pretty cool from nokia, so much money for that phone but they can't keep their promise to make it available for the n900. | 02:19 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: I do? I thought that was from -devel to -testing | 02:19 |
| alterego | Oh well :) | 02:19 |
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| MohammadAG | no, it's for -testing to extras | 02:20 |
| OEXPL | alterego: When i install meego to it, will I have the maps then? | 02:20 |
| OEXPL | I mean, the navigation | 02:20 |
| alterego | OEXPL: no | 02:20 |
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| alterego | maemo maps has navigation | 02:20 |
| andre__ | true - navigation is available. but not voice output for it | 02:20 |
| alterego | No, no voice | 02:21 |
| alterego | Unlikely to get it either. | 02:21 |
| OEXPL | so the ovi stuff on maemo has navigation - but no voice? | 02:21 |
| OEXPL | or on meego | 02:21 |
| alterego | No navigation at all on MeeGo | 02:21 |
| GAN900 | OEXPL, if you want long term support, pick another company. | 02:21 |
| MohammadAG | MeeGo has no navigation right now | 02:21 |
| MohammadAG | you're better off buying Sygic | 02:21 |
| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 02:22 |
| GAN900 | OEXPL, if you're unhappy with Nokia, call up Nokia Care and tell them. | 02:22 |
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| GAN900 | (it might help) | 02:22 |
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| alterego | Ah, quarantine ends on the 26th, lame | 02:27 |
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| OEXPL | Do we recieve map updates on the n900? | 02:28 |
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| andre__ | OEXPL: as map data is loaded nearly everytime (if it's not still in the cache) from a server via an internet connection, I'd guess that they sometimes do update some data on the server | 02:34 |
| OEXPL | hmm, ok, thx. | 02:35 |
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| comawhite | hehe Nokia doesn't sell the N900 on their website anymore | 02:48 |
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| mikki-kun | comawhite: seems they want to cut of noobs joining the developer circles and taking up their time... | 03:02 |
| opdf2 | is there any newsgroup downloader app in the repo? | 03:03 |
| comawhite | MikaT, lol | 03:04 |
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| comawhite | mikki-kun, * | 03:05 |
| mikki-kun | x) you made that already twice :D | 03:05 |
| comawhite | I did? | 03:05 |
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| mikki-kun | some time in the past you did :) | 03:08 |
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| jtab | to transfer a block of text from a textfile into a browser, what are the keystroke commands please? I thought it was Ctrl-v, but that's not working for me | 04:45 |
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| ebzzry_ | Is there a graphviz port for Maemo 5? | 04:57 |
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| luke-jr | ebzzry_: I expect you can compile it w/o changed | 05:01 |
| luke-jr | changes | 05:01 |
| ebzzry_ | Hmm | 05:03 |
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| Termana | DocScrutinizer: why? nicks don't expire on freenode | 08:20 |
| joerg_relogintem | sure they do | 08:20 |
| Termana | Or well, at least if you have the grouped in to the one nick they don't | 08:20 |
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| Termana | have them* | 08:20 |
| Termana | I have a build up of nicks that I never use :p | 08:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | if somebody else reclaims that nick, freenode staff may give it away if it's not actively used | 08:21 |
| Termana | DocScrutinizer: but don't you think they will see the fact that you are just cycling into those nicknames? :p | 08:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, nickserv has a recently-used date for each nick | 08:22 |
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| luke-jr | O HAI THAR MR DOC SCRUTINIZER OPENMOKO ENGINEER SIR | 08:51 |
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| Gh0sty | hello | 09:03 |
| Gh0sty | backing up my n900 (copying all files from the storage mode) | 09:03 |
| Gh0sty | and then I guess I'll also have to hook it up in pc suite mode to transfer some scripts I placed in /root ? :p | 09:04 |
| psycho_oreos | you won't backup all the stuff you installed if you're copying stuffy through storage mode | 09:04 |
| Gh0sty | nono | 09:04 |
| Gh0sty | but this is point a | 09:04 |
| Gh0sty | point b is in ssh mode copy over some scripts | 09:04 |
| Gh0sty | and point c is save a backup which i made through the backup tool :) | 09:04 |
| Gh0sty | then its time for a reflash | 09:05 |
| Gh0sty | that should be safe enough? :P | 09:05 |
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| psycho_oreos | probably | 09:07 |
| psycho_oreos | I was thinking of using something like rob's backup tool | 09:07 |
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| Gh0sty | rob's backup tool? | 09:12 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah, its not available in extras yet but its a very handy tool for backing up stuff, I might have a bookmark link somewhere but I have to forewarn you that it does have a bit of a catch on its own | 09:13 |
| Gh0sty | :/ | 09:14 |
| Gh0sty | what do you mean by catch? | 09:14 |
| Gh0sty | it will eat my dog? :p | 09:14 |
| Gh0sty | dont understand why nobody made a "full backup" tool actually | 09:14 |
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| Gh0sty | something which just writes the whole device filesystem to the SD card | 09:14 |
| psycho_oreos | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 09:15 |
| Gh0sty | ofcourse this means you need to clean off the excess data first | 09:15 |
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| Gh0sty | even backing up goes slow now :/ | 09:15 |
| Gh0sty | despite the fact i just rebooted the phone | 09:15 |
| Gh0sty | its seriously badly behaving lately | 09:16 |
| Gh0sty | messed a bit too much with it i guess :p | 09:16 |
| Gh0sty | and its still on top of an ota pr1.3 update also | 09:16 |
| Gh0sty | ok lets see now ... the instructions on how to flash your device :) | 09:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | backup menu is supposed to do a full backup | 09:19 |
| Gh0sty | does backup menu also backup files I put myself in /home/user or /root ? | 09:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | restoring a full backup after flash is obviously useless, except for rollback of that flash | 09:19 |
| Gh0sty | yes thats my point | 09:19 |
| Gh0sty | if all else fails just rollback | 09:20 |
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| Gh0sty | hmmz | 09:20 |
| Gh0sty | problem number 1 | 09:20 |
| Gh0sty | flasher is i386 | 09:20 |
| Gh0sty | and I don't have a linux machine with i386 anymore | 09:20 |
| luke-jr | XD | 09:21 |
| Gh0sty | ah the manual says I can just force install | 09:21 |
| Gh0sty | good | 09:21 |
| luke-jr | Gh0sty: it won't work tho | 09:22 |
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| Gh0sty | what wont? | 09:23 |
| Gh0sty | force architecture installed the deb file ... | 09:23 |
| luke-jr | sure, but it won't run | 09:23 |
| Gh0sty | ?? | 09:23 |
| luke-jr | force = break my system | 09:23 |
| Gh0sty | the tool wont work? | 09:24 |
| Gh0sty | why do they even bother to put in the manual that you can just install it like that ?? | 09:24 |
| luke-jr | nfc | 09:24 |
| Gh0sty | I'll try, see where I end up ... | 09:24 |
| luke-jr | if it DOES work, then you DO have i386 :P | 09:24 |
| Pradeep | good morning everyone | 09:25 |
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| Pradeep | n900 is not suppose to be a fone a piece of hardware awesome | 09:26 |
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| Gh0sty | luke-jr: ofcourse my laptop also has i386 libs and stuff | 09:29 |
| Gh0sty | not all things work x64 ... :/ | 09:30 |
| Gh0sty | despite the fact that companies should stop building i386 software :/ | 09:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | wtf my Pentium Dualcore isn't a I386 compatible CPU anymore?? | 09:30 |
| Pradeep | so do you prefer 32bit hardware | 09:30 |
| Gh0sty | most just screw you ... you have 64 bit oh thats not (yet) supported | 09:31 |
| Gh0sty | like this flasher thing | 09:31 |
| Gh0sty | common half of the pcs in the homes are now 64 bit ... | 09:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so what? | 09:32 |
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| Gh0sty | I installed my windows 64 bit and my linux 64 bit, got 4G mem in most machines so at least they can use it ... | 09:32 |
| Gh0sty | otherwise its a waste of the hardware :p | 09:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | you don't say they forgot how to work with 32bit instruction set? | 09:32 |
| Gh0sty | no | 09:32 |
| Gh0sty | but on that part windows is better then linux | 09:32 |
| Gh0sty | for some reason they compile everything with 64 bit architecture | 09:33 |
| Gh0sty | despite the fact that a browser does not really have any benefit from this (to name one app) I think | 09:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | hell an i7 probably still could emulate 8088 with proper microcode | 09:34 |
| Gh0sty | on windows you see beautifully some stuff running 32, others 64 ... on ubuntu in particular you see all kinds of problems comming from 32 bit apps they want to force in 64 bit mode | 09:34 |
| Gh0sty | lol ok sorry my previous expression was maybe malformed ... :) | 09:34 |
| Gh0sty | let me put it this way then: | 09:34 |
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| Gh0sty | they should stop making ONLY i386 stuff | 09:34 |
| Pradeep | i think i agree there but but 64bit apps dont qork on i386 system even widows | 09:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ubuntu | 09:34 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg | 09:34 |
| Gh0sty | at least package it also for x64 | 09:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | or http://xkcd.com/424/ for my take on buntkuh | 09:35 |
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| Gh0sty | yeah ok ... :p | 09:36 |
| Gh0sty | already figured that you are a purist :) | 09:36 |
| Gh0sty | I don't particularry like ubuntu that much, but in the end my debian unstable looked a lot like it but less integrated | 09:36 |
| Gh0sty | so a couple of years back I switched my desktop and laptop to ubuntu | 09:37 |
| Gh0sty | servers however stay debian :) | 09:37 |
| Termana | Gh0sty, I don't understand wtf your talking about. Ubuntu doesn't compile for i386 at all | 09:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | the problem is Mr Shuttleworth and his canonical mafia not only integrated, but thought they can own linux and reinvent it. Even worse, they were successfull on this evil plan | 09:38 |
| Gh0sty | yes there is the issue with the company behind it yes ... | 09:39 |
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| Gh0sty | but I'm not that much interested in politics | 09:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | now as much poor mislead nitwits think Canonical invented linux and called it buntkuh, as there are morons who think Gates invented GUI | 09:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | or, for a popular example: ...who think internet == http:// | 09:41 |
| Gh0sty | hehe :) | 09:41 |
| Gh0sty | yeah well thats the younger generation I think | 09:41 |
| Gh0sty | omg | 09:41 |
| Gh0sty | sooo clean :p | 09:41 |
| Gh0sty | fresh firmware :) | 09:42 |
| Gh0sty | now lets do the emmc | 09:42 |
| Termana | DocScrutinizer: tell me again why you are calling it buntkuh? | 09:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | buntkuh a checkered cow | 09:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | correctly named Fleckvieh | 09:43 |
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| Pradeep | ok | 09:46 |
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| Pradeep | nope apple invented the gui | 09:47 |
| Gh0sty | ok ... | 09:48 |
| Gh0sty | after the emmc update | 09:48 |
| Gh0sty | all menus have blocks | 09:48 |
| Gh0sty | in stead of text | 09:48 |
| Gh0sty | and colors are all fucked | 09:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | not even that. Xerox Palo Alto research center invented GUI | 09:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | and the mouse | 09:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)#The_GUI | 09:50 |
| Gh0sty | flash attempt number 2 | 09:51 |
| korhojoa | any of you guys lost your microusb? | 09:53 |
| korhojoa | mine is failing | 09:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart | 09:54 |
| Gh0sty | NOTE: Always flash the FIASCO image first, then the eMMC image immediately after that. Never boot up the device between flashing the FIASCO image and the eMMC image! | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | so mouse was invented not by PARC | 09:54 |
| Gh0sty | eurgh what? | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: screw that | 09:54 |
| Gh0sty | the device will reboot after you flash the fiasco | 09:54 |
| Gh0sty | I should interrupt that boot process?? | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | proper instruction is: if you want to flash eMMC/VANILLA, the di that first, omit -R in flasher cmd, power down N900 by removing battery after flashing, then flash COMBINED after that | 09:55 |
| Gh0sty | so first the emmc and then the combined? :o | 09:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 09:57 |
| Gh0sty | ah yes the -R is reboot | 09:57 |
| Gh0sty | doh stupid manual! | 09:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, and stupid users who did a rollback on my edits, just because they thought they know better. "I can *READ* and in http://foo.bar.boo it's written you *MUST* do the other way round. Jorg, we don't accept your corrections" | 09:59 |
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| korhojoa | well aren't we harsh today | 10:00 |
| Venemo | hi guys | 10:00 |
| Gh0sty | well he is right | 10:00 |
| Gh0sty | so can't blame him | 10:00 |
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| * Gh0sty nominees DocScrutinizer as help of the day | 10:01 | |
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| Gh0sty | if you come to fosdem its already 2 beers waiting for you ;p | 10:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | korhojoa: what's your problem? | 10:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (rollback) see http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&oldid=36095 >> 22:56, 19 June 2010 92.26.107.219 (Talk) (21,483 bytes) (It seems that you should flash the fiasco then the emmc, not the other way around...)<< and also >> 16:16, 11 June 2010 Joerg rw (Talk | contribs) (21,483 bytes) (→Flashing the eMMC in the N900: sequence changed, though if really not booting it doesn't matter)<<; >> 22:09, 29 June 2010 Joerg | 10:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | rw (Talk | contribs) (22,315 bytes) (Undo revision 36095 by 92.26.107.219 (Talk) It seems?? Please get higher competence and better rationale before correcting my edits)<< and >>12:10, 30 June 2010 Mohammad7410 (Talk | contribs) (22,272 bytes) (Undo revision 36377 by Joerg rw (Talk))<< in http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&action=history. You also might want to check IRC log of this chan, same period of time, for | 10:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | extended discussions of the topic, all coming to the final result ""for now the sequence eMMC(VANILLA) first, *THEN* rootfs(COMBINED) is the more failsafe method" | 10:44 |
| Venemo | afaik the sequence doesn't matter as long as you don't boot up between them. right? | 10:48 |
| RobbieThe1st | I wonder... I don't think flashing the emmc, rebooting, then (attempting to) flash the combined image would hurt anything... It just wouldn't actually -boot- correctly inbetween | 10:49 |
| RobbieThe1st | And as the rootfs/combined image copies over all needed optfs files on first boot... | 10:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I corrected the wiki, 92.26.107.219 did an undo, I did an undo on the undo, MohammadAG did an undo on the undo on the undo. I explained to MohammadAG why this isn't really a good idea, his comment was WTTE "you can do an undo to the undo to the undo to the undo, *I* won't undo my undo anyway" | 10:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | RobbieThe1st: that's exactly the rationale why I changed the recommended sequence in wiki | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | RobbieThe1st: if you do it the other way round, an accidental boot in between (that's actually easy to happen) will ruin everything | 10:52 |
| RobbieThe1st | Yea | 10:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a possible reason why you should flash COMBINED *first* is, it *might* install a new NOLO version and/or other updated system components that have new functions to deal with changes in eMMC setup, so a new VANILLA img would need those new functions. Anyway *for now* - i.e. with the VANILLA img we got now - this is not the case, and the sequence eMMC/VANILLA *first* (don't boot though it doesn't instantly break if you do accidentally), THEN | 10:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | rootfs/COMBINED is _clearly_ the better instruction to give | 10:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can't be arsed to edit wiki a third time though | 10:57 |
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| RobbieThe1st | Fixed for you | 11:10 |
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| Loom | hi | 11:11 |
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| Loom | got my n900 2 days ago and i still haven't figure out where the delete key is | 11:12 |
| Loom | any help? | 11:12 |
| RobbieThe1st | Um | 11:13 |
| RobbieThe1st | It's like shift+backspace | 11:14 |
| RobbieThe1st | Or alt+backspace | 11:14 |
| Loom | ye shift backspace is | 11:15 |
| RobbieThe1st | Just checked. It's shift+backspace, though beware that it might not work on -all- applications | 11:15 |
| Gh0sty | DocScrutinizer: still here? | 11:16 |
| Gh0sty | http://pastebin.com/WjcX6PqC | 11:17 |
| Gh0sty | post times out in 10 minutes | 11:17 |
| Gh0sty | will post it on my blog later :) | 11:18 |
| Loom | 1 more question. how do you close a dialog or channel window in xchat ? | 11:18 |
| Gh0sty | hmm however I could first check if the images are there ... thats a plan :) | 11:18 |
| Gh0sty | revision 1.1 comming up :P | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | still here, yes | 11:18 |
| Termana | WOOO | 11:19 |
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| Termana | Give us a high five, just aced a test | 11:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: s/ wait a minute and // | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | Loom: there's a [ x ] button on bottom of the chan-tabs list, in my xchat | 11:25 |
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| lardman | morning | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: also the most safe method is to first plug USB, then insert battery. Rationale: sometimes device boots up on inserting battery | 11:26 |
| Loom | in n900? | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | lardman: morning | 11:26 |
| lardman | hi DocScrutinizer | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | Loom: yes | 11:26 |
| Loom | fucked up the colors can.t see shit wait | 11:27 |
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| KotCzarny | hi | 11:30 |
| Venemo | hi | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | who wants to test my visualizer? | 11:32 |
| Loom | that issue because you have the channel switcher in tabs mode i guess | 11:32 |
| Loom | i can't find an x on tree mode | 11:33 |
| Loom | thx tho | 11:33 |
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| KotCzarny | shameless plug warning | 11:35 |
| KotCzarny | extras-devel: apt-get install osc | 11:35 |
| Venemo | hi NooBmonk3y | 11:35 |
| KotCzarny | report any issues with install, features, etc | 11:35 |
| NooBmonk3y | Morning alls! | 11:36 |
| NooBmonk3y | hey Ven! | 11:36 |
| * NooBmonk3y is preparing to go back to windows today :P ubuntu has been fun, but missing photoshop :P | 11:36 | |
| KotCzarny | gimp | 11:36 |
| NooBmonk3y | meh | 11:36 |
| KotCzarny | photoshop is overrated | 11:36 |
| KotCzarny | and pricey | 11:37 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:37 |
| KotCzarny | do you support paid apps? | 11:37 |
| Venemo | NooBmonk3y: good news: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=899403 | 11:37 |
| NooBmonk3y | lol thats a random question for a sunday morning ... i support apps that work for me :) | 11:37 |
| NooBmonk3y | yay! well done Ven! | 11:37 |
| Venemo | NooBmonk3y: you can btw use gimp or wine for photoshop | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | noobmok3y: just using them is supporting | 11:38 |
| NooBmonk3y | wine just doesnt seem to always work, and i cant get my head around gimp and scripts etc | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | another way: virtualbox + photoshop | 11:38 |
| comawhite | onscreen german keyboard is weird | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | works nicely | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | and doesn't need to dualboot | 11:39 |
| Venemo | NooBmonk3y: gimp is the same thing, just has a bit different ui | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | and leave cozy linux shell | 11:39 |
| NooBmonk3y | KotCzarny, if i had a decent enough pc i woulda just run ubuntu virtualized, but i dont :p and windows has got more of what i need at the mo :) | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | k | 11:39 |
| NooBmonk3y | i do however have an older pc i may set back up with buntu one day | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | but remember, your safety is at the stake | 11:39 |
| NooBmonk3y | hehe | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | what if they start checking peoples pcs? | 11:39 |
| comawhite | took a long time to find the 'ß' key | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | and confiscating any with illegal software? | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:40 |
| NooBmonk3y | illegal? :) - i have a full copy of adobe cs5 and windows lol | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | O.o | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | good for you | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | then i have no more questions | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:40 |
| NooBmonk3y | hehe :P | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | use what works for you | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | but | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | you have old pc and expensive software | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | which is unlikely combination | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | cos i used to have a good pc 6 months ago | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | which means you either lie | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | i moved out and left my pc with my brother | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | or are lazy | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | :) | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | family pc ;) | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | move out = no money ;) | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | family pc and notebook for all! | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | hehehe | 11:41 |
| NooBmonk3y | anyway! | 11:42 |
| NooBmonk3y | back in a bit! | 11:42 |
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| alterego | I have many computers, but I really only use netbook, notebook and N900 | 11:42 |
| KotCzarny | i use my x40 the most | 11:42 |
| alterego | I'm looking for something to use my desktop as, thinking of turning it into a media system. | 11:43 |
| KotCzarny | and n900 as a phone + game console | 11:43 |
| thresh | there's like 3 games for n900 | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | not true | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | just compile one yourself -> done | 11:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | RobbieThe1st: not fixed for me, sorry. The description still is misleading. Compare http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 to http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&oldid=35655#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 | 11:45 |
| KotCzarny | and now it's one more with venemo's addition | 11:45 |
| Gh0sty | http://pastebin.com/G3euRUcr @ DocScrutinizer | 11:45 |
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| Gh0sty | put it all in functions so now if you want to change the order ... :p | 11:45 |
| Gh0sty | next up: going to make it possible to define the EMMC and ROOT images :) | 11:45 |
| Gh0sty | but first a shower :p | 11:45 |
| RobbieThe1st | DocScrutinizer: I'm not sure what you want there... | 11:45 |
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| Venemo | thresh: just for you :) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67139 | 11:46 |
| thresh | ;) thx | 11:47 |
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| Termana | hey crashanddie_ | 11:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: "extra comments..." ?? :-D | 11:48 |
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| Gh0sty | ah yes :) | 11:48 |
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| Gh0sty | thats the space where i want to define "parameter -R root image location and -E emmc location | 11:48 |
| Gh0sty | or something | 11:48 |
| Gh0sty | will get fixed after shower ;) | 11:48 |
| comawhite | how much will watching an avi cause on the battery? | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | much | 11:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite a bit | 11:49 |
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| comawhite | aww nuts | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | if it's over 50% cpu it's going to dry out fast | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | run top in another window or any status bar cpu visualizer | 11:50 |
| comawhite | i don't have the phone yet, probably won't until monday, fucking usps >.< | 11:50 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:50 |
| comawhite | have to wait the full 8 days >.< | 11:51 |
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| GNUtoo|laptop | hi, what program is responsible of that: http://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Mode-selection.png | 11:53 |
| GNUtoo|laptop | and what dbus calls? | 11:53 |
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| alterego | Use dbus monitor and find out yourself? | 11:55 |
| lardman | how does (Extras) promotion work for packages that something relies on? | 11:55 |
| lardman | i.e. deps | 11:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: read -p "$*" probably isn't what you want to do | 11:55 |
| Gh0sty | well its just some old junk code i copied :p | 11:55 |
| Gh0sty | i'll have to check later | 11:55 |
| Gh0sty | just recovering my backup right now first :) | 11:55 |
| alterego | lardman, I thought deps were dragged in | 11:55 |
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| Gh0sty | DocScrutinizer: thats why its also a timed pastebin :p | 11:57 |
| Gh0sty | the final version will be put on my blog ... | 11:57 |
| Gh0sty | this one is a "fast first write" | 11:57 |
| lardman | alterego: yes I think they are, I'm wondering whether deps can be upgraded and how they are then pulled in in their upgraded form (i.e. after the main package has gone in already) | 11:58 |
| Gh0sty | also the motto why I run linux: script once, never do again :) | 11:58 |
| Venemo | lardman: if a package is promoted to Extras, any lib that it depends on is also promoted | 11:58 |
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| lardman | and if you subsequently upgrade some of those deps | 11:59 |
| lardman | I'm thinking of mBarcode, and the plugins | 11:59 |
| lardman | how to release new versions of the plugins and for them to end up in Extras too | 11:59 |
| RobbieThe1st | Gh0sty: Ain't -that- the truth | 11:59 |
| lardman | I guess they need to be promoted explicitly | 12:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 12:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 12:00 |
| lardman | ok that's fine | 12:00 |
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| alterego | lardman: yeah, I'm pretty sure they do too :) | 12:00 |
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| lardman | ok that's fine, just thought I should check | 12:02 |
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| Gh0sty | damn I would never have realised I have 300M of software installed (at least thats the memory required to re-download my apps) | 12:13 |
| Venemo | hehe | 12:14 |
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| RST38h | http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=apocalypse&year_start=1750&year_end=2008&corpus=5&smoothing=3 | 12:24 |
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| lardman | http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=flood&year_start=1750&year_end=2008&corpus=5&smoothing=3 | 12:31 |
| lardman | presumably they don't think it will all end in drowning then | 12:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, anybody claiming BL-5J is a LiPo _Polymer_ LiIon cell? | 12:31 |
| RST38h | a moment | 12:32 |
| RST38h | lardman:fire seems to experience a renessance | 12:32 |
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| lardman | :) | 12:33 |
| RST38h | Try flood,fire,disease,earthquake,nuclear,antichrist,asteroid | 12:33 |
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| RST38h | Antichrist is a virtual no-show | 12:33 |
| RST38h | So is the asteroid though | 12:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: 300M? seems rather reasonably lean nowadays :-) | 12:36 |
| Gh0sty | well not going to install the power kernel for starters and a couple others :P | 12:38 |
| Gh0sty | first take a backup after the clean reinstall | 12:38 |
| Gh0sty | then install power kernel again :) | 12:38 |
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| chadi | Hello world. I was going through the transitions.ini thread, and was applying a few to try, but at a certain point, I got stuck to one transition file, and even if I replace it with the original, or with any other transitions file, I don't see a difference anymore. What went wrong? I didn't apply any theme | 12:54 |
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| Venemo | chadi: maybe the new ini is wrong, thus HD falls back to the previous one | 13:00 |
| Venemo | chadi: if you reboot, that may help too | 13:00 |
| chadi | well, the point is that I am rolling back to the original one which is not wrong | 13:01 |
| chadi | yeah bus is there a solution that does not involve rebooting? | 13:01 |
| Venemo | open a root terminal | 13:03 |
| Venemo | 'killall hildon-desktop' | 13:03 |
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| chadi | tried that, it messes up my phone application (no longer rotates) | 13:06 |
| chadi | thank you anyway | 13:12 |
| chadi | bye | 13:12 |
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| sivang | hello maemoers | 13:16 |
| lardman | hi sivang | 13:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | anybody looked closer at /sys/power/idcode ? | 13:44 |
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| sivang | hey lardman | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | might this be the true device serial# ? | 13:45 |
| * lardman wonders why gnuplot-nox is taking soooo long to unpack on his Ubuntu machine | 13:45 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | IDCODE: 4b7ae02f | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Production ID: 00000000 00000000 000000cc cafeb7ae | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Die ID: 0c004012 040364fb 00000000 44f60004 | 13:46 |
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| * lardman is forced to reboot and use MATLAB as gnuplot is holding up installing Octave | 13:48 | |
| lardman | bbl | 13:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sunday game: do a `cat /sys/power/idcode|grep Die` and post here :-) | 14:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Die ID: 18005014 040361c2 00000000 129e0004 | 14:12 |
| jacekowski | IDCODE: 4b7ae02f | 14:12 |
| jacekowski | Production ID: 00000000 00000000 000000cc cafeb7ae | 14:12 |
| jacekowski | Die ID: 0f01f00f 04036abf 00000000 4e380004 | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | and | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | Die ID: 0c004012 040364fb 00000000 44f60004 | 14:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IDCODE and Production ID seem always the same | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | we got already 4 Die IDs though now | 14:15 |
| MohammadAG | Die ID: 0101701d 04036817 00000000 232c0004 | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | 5 | 14:15 |
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| * noobmonk3y waves | 14:16 | |
| noobmonk3y | lo alls | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | lo noobmonk3y | 14:16 |
| noobmonk3y | hey doc :) - having a good wkend? | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | HC needs to learn to show Die ID :-D | 14:16 |
| noobmonk3y | lol! | 14:16 |
| noobmonk3y | whats a die id? | 14:16 |
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| noobmonk3y | lo Venemo | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously a serial# of some chip Die | 14:16 |
| Venemo | hey noobmonk3y | 14:17 |
| MohammadAG | hey noobmonk3y | 14:17 |
| noobmonk3y | why is it whenever i hear Die, i think of the Simpsons... "Die Bart Die" | 14:17 |
| noobmonk3y | hey Mo :0 | 14:17 |
| * MohammadAG remembers Die from germany | 14:17 | |
| MohammadAG | when I was there, all ads had Die in them | 14:18 |
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| Venemo | that's because Germans want you to die | 14:18 |
| Venemo | hehe | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_(integrated_circuit) | 14:18 |
| Venemo | in reality, 'die' is a pronoun in German :) | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | the i think | 14:19 |
| Gh0sty | oh btw you might know if it's true DocScrutinizer ... someone told me that if you hook n900 up to a pc and not pick storage or pc suite mode (so just tap next to the menu) it will only charge at 100mA in stead of 500mA if you pick either? | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | our beer is frequently "hell" | 14:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: not sure about it | 14:19 |
| Gh0sty | he got that from a guy working at nokia itself | 14:20 |
| Gh0sty | but perhaps thats been fixed by pr 1.2 or 1.3 | 14:20 |
| Gh0sty | i got the advice at the 1.1 times ... :p | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can find out easily, by watching the actual charge current flowing into the batery: bq27200.sh | 14:20 |
| Gh0sty | where is that script ? :/ | 14:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dunno if ShadowJK wants to publish the URL | 14:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gh0sty: you should invoke that script via ssh over wlan, and lock your screen | 14:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | otherwise too much of the 500mA expected will go into system to power backlight etc | 14:24 |
| Gh0sty | ok | 14:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | invoke with parameter 10, to get continuous listing | 14:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mA col, - is discharge | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | TTE is Time To Empty for cell, TTF corresponding to charge-complete | 14:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | minutes | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | RSOC are % of capacity left, as seen by battery gauge chip - sometimes this differs largely from what bme thinks it is | 14:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the mV and mA are rather correct anyway | 14:30 |
| MohammadAG | bme is crap | 14:30 |
| MohammadAG | where's the script again? | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | a full battery has >4000mV, an almost empty one <3600 | 14:30 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I expect the value given out by the script to be less than bme right? | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | depends | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | when the chip got out of sync, e.g. by swapping battery, then it can have random bogus numbers for all those calculated values | 14:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | this chip is supposed to be mounted to battery cell, not inside the device | 14:32 |
| MohammadAG | LOL I restarted bme | 14:33 |
| MohammadAG | battery went from full to red | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | normal | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | bme is nuts | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | bme even writes shit to CAL - go figure | 14:34 |
| crashanddie_ | bme is the perfect example of an app that should have received tons of unit testing and robustness checking, but didn't. | 14:34 |
| alterego | crashanddie_: do you know that for a fact? | 14:37 |
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| BCMM | DocScrutinizer: the battery chip is a chip designed to be part of a battery pack? | 14:43 |
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| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, why is the browser non-composited by hildon? | 14:43 |
| Scorcerer | is it possible to install new protocol to the bullitin communicator on N900 ? | 14:43 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: um | 14:44 |
| timeless_mbp | you do realize you're asking about code that's 3 years dead, right? | 14:44 |
| BCMM | Scorcerer: you mean the conversations app? | 14:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | BCMM: yes | 14:44 |
| Scorcerer | i think so | 14:44 |
| BCMM | Scorcerer: it is indeed | 14:44 |
| timeless_mbp | Scorcerer: there are only 20 or so such available for download in extras | 14:44 |
| MohammadAG | _HILDON_NON_COMPOSITED_WINDOW | 14:44 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: must i repeat myself? | 14:44 |
| BCMM | Scorcerer: the conversations app is the thing that does SMS, skype IM, jabber and so on | 14:44 |
| MohammadAG | Yes, I do realize that | 14:45 |
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| MohammadAG | does it matter? | 14:45 |
| Scorcerer | that was what i've been looking for, thanks | 14:45 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: a quick search shows that using _HILDON_NON_COMPOSITED_WINDOW gives you a perf win | 14:45 |
| timeless_mbp | because it tells the window manager to stop screwing with you | 14:45 |
| timeless_mbp | given that browsers need to not be screwed with | 14:45 |
| timeless_mbp | it makes sense | 14:45 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: does that mean that the batteries themselves have no built-in overcharge protection and so on? | 14:45 |
| BCMM | (this would influence how scared I am by 3rd party battery chargers) | 14:46 |
| MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, why does it to be not "screwed" with? | 14:46 |
| * timeless_mbp sends MohammadAG to an English school | 14:46 | |
| DocScrutinizer | BCMM: why do you ask MohammadAG ? | 14:46 |
| timeless_mbp | please come back when you can phrase that in the form of a grammatically correct sentence | 14:46 |
| * timeless_mbp can't parse it | 14:47 | |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I'm not sure | 14:47 |
| timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: compositing adds cpu overhead and copies and what not | 14:47 |
| timeless_mbp | the browser needs to be responsive | 14:47 |
| timeless_mbp | and needs to paint fast | 14:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | BCMM: afaik for EU a protection chip is mandatory | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | BCMM: bq27200 is no protection chip though | 14:49 |
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| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: it's no | 14:52 |
| jacekowski | not* | 14:52 |
| jacekowski | only thing that is mandatory is that battery will not explode | 14:52 |
| jacekowski | they don't care how it's done | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, yes | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, if you're interested in details: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/PACK950925.pdf for a nice example | 14:53 |
| timeless_mbp | grr | 14:55 |
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| timeless_mbp | it replaced my perfectly working builtin pdf reader | 14:55 |
| jacekowski | timeless_mbp: use foxit reader | 14:55 |
| timeless_mbp | jacekowski: does it run on osx? | 14:56 |
| jacekowski | dunno | 14:56 |
| jacekowski | probably yes | 14:56 |
| jacekowski | hmm, no | 14:56 |
| BCMM | "use foxit reader" - nah, it's simpler than that: don't use adobe reader | 14:56 |
| ShadowJK | for UL certification the battery needs to be part of a system with under/overcharge protection afaik | 14:57 |
| BCMM | nothing else sucks to a comparable extent | 14:57 |
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| RST38h | http://pics.livejournal.com/popgapon/pic/00098x7s | 14:59 |
| timeless_mbp | BCMM: sadly my web browsers are stupid | 15:00 |
| timeless_mbp | so 'don't use adobe' is hard | 15:00 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, heh, 4.28 overcharge seems low and 2.3 overdischarge threshold seems very low :) | 15:00 |
| * ShadowJK remembers back when you could tell netscape what program to use to view pdf files :-( | 15:01 | |
| timeless_mbp | CAUTION | 15:01 |
| timeless_mbp | ● Do not use the battery in other than the following conditions. Otherwise, the battery might cause heat generation, damage. | 15:01 |
| timeless_mbp | Charge: 0°C ~ +45° | 15:01 |
| RST38h | still can, no? | 15:01 |
| timeless_mbp | so, the n900 shouldn't be used in finland for 8-10 months of the year? | 15:01 |
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| SwedeMike | do you regularily charge it in cold? | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: see page 65 | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: 5.2 Required Protection Circuit | 15:03 |
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| crashanddie_ | MohammadAG: how's the media player going? | 15:09 |
| jacekowski | mohammedia | 15:09 |
| crashanddie_ | MohammadAG: sorry I haven't been able to check up much on progress, been quite busy? | 15:09 |
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| crashanddie_ | s/busy?/fucking busy!/ | 15:10 |
| infobot | crashanddie_ meant: MohammadAG: sorry I haven't been able to check up much on progress, been quite fucking busy! | 15:10 |
| * ShadowJK forgets exactly at what voltage Li-Ion starts degrading badly | 15:11 | |
| ShadowJK | but iirc it's right around 2.3? | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | BCMM: see 7.2.17, p.68 -> overcharge completely charged cell @ 4.5V for 2h: no fire, no smoke, no explosion | 15:11 |
| ShadowJK | I'd like to see results of repetitive testing, not just one-shot tests :) | 15:12 |
| ShadowJK | (as damage from overcharge and overdischarge is cumulative) | 15:13 |
| jacekowski | it will just vent | 15:13 |
| jacekowski | and stop working | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: after that test, there will be no further tests with this DUT :-P | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | only test left over: how to get rid of a killed LiIon | 15:13 |
| timeless_mbp | DocScrutinizer: using that other phone as an example is kinda ironic | 15:13 |
| timeless_mbp | given that people here were present when it decided to smoke | 15:14 |
| timeless_mbp | my n900 contributed :) | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | BS, nothing smoked | 15:14 |
| timeless_mbp | it did something | 15:14 |
| * timeless_mbp can't remember who was present | 15:14 | |
| DocScrutinizer | it got hot, as it is supposed to, until the charge pump feeding 500++mA to N900 switched down correctly, @ 120°C IIRC | 15:15 |
| jacekowski | what would happen if you would apply 1kV onto that battery | 15:15 |
| jacekowski | would it explode or not | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | the cool thing is that there was actually people who could tell if it was supposed to do thator not :D | 15:16 |
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| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, kinda odd how no charge termination current is mentioned | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | CC/CV | 15:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the "you mustn't keep it floating" was an 'inofficial' advice to me from cell manufs | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | and obviously Nokia bme designers didn't ever hear about that advice | 15:18 |
| ShadowJK | I've never actually seen proper specs that didn't specify termination :) | 15:18 |
| ShadowJK | No I think they did, they just failed at implementing it | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehe | 15:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | quite possible | 15:19 |
| ShadowJK | or rather, the people who made the hardware didn't talk to the people who made bme who didn't talk to the people that made the usb code in kernel | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 15:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | they had no DocScrutinizer to do that kind of diplomatic mission | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually most companies don't see the need for such a position | 15:21 |
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| ShadowJK | Somehow i get the impression it's kinda bad in the first place to have 4 people each working on their own tyre for the car and with no visibility into what the other 3 dudes are doing, and adding a fifth guy to run in betweem these guys seems like a band-aid fix :) | 15:24 |
| zeltak | morning guys..been busy latley so havent had time to hang to much in the irc :) im having issues again with my n900 | 15:24 |
| luke-jr | Gh0sty: "ofcourse" nothing. all things *do* work in x86_64 (there is no such thing as x64), although idiot companies like Nokia refuse to provide the source required to exercise fair use | 15:25 |
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| zeltak | atfer i charge it at night it the morning its freezed. i cant do anything unless i take out the battery, it only happens after a ful nights charge..anyone encountered anything like this? | 15:25 |
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| ShadowJK | That sounds very strange. Haven't heard of anyone experiencing that | 15:25 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: Actually, IIRC the newer CPUs have all "forgotten" 16-bit ;) | 15:26 |
| luke-jr | and it's stupid to demand I install my OS twice (64-bit and 32-bit) | 15:26 |
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| * luke-jr is glad he has a 64-bit flasher | 15:27 | |
| jacekowski | 64bit is a failure | 15:27 |
| jacekowski | most of stuff i have don't work on 64bit windows | 15:28 |
| luke-jr | jacekowski: that's a Windows fail | 15:28 |
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| luke-jr | and/or you just use crap | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: yes, some new CPUs emulate 16bit cmds when they run into them | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | throw exception and a lib is responsible to do the emulation | 15:29 |
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| luke-jr | that's not the CPU emulating | 15:30 |
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| Gh0sty | lol seriously? | 15:31 |
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| Gh0sty | but ok running still 16 bit stuff on a new computer ... makes no sense | 15:31 |
| Gh0sty | unless for embedded development :p | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: it's not like 4 guys doing the same and not knowing of each other. It's more like the guy mountng the tyres tries to understand what the tyre manufacturer tells him about rubber vulcanization. They don't even talk the same language | 15:32 |
| Gh0sty | couple of months ago tried to debug a problem with a pascal programm giving an error on an industrial pc which got upgraded by a desktop | 15:32 |
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| Gh0sty | for time calculation pascal uses cpu speed | 15:32 |
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| Gh0sty | and when your cpu is fast enough you get an overflow :P | 15:32 |
| Gh0sty | its a known bug, there is even a patcher for it on the internet :) | 15:33 |
| Gh0sty | crazy infact that they didnt count on the fact your cpu could get too fast :P | 15:33 |
| Gh0sty | those industrial pcs are type 486 - p1 and the pc they replaced it with was a p3 700Mhz or something :) | 15:34 |
| Gh0sty | lucky they still found such a fast pc with an isa slot ... :) | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: you need an ambassador who did rubber vulcanization *and* handling a impact wrench, to translate between them | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: especially sw-devels like to take assumptions about how hw works. They can't imagine it doesn't work like they think it _should_ | 15:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: and they never get the idea something could be done in hw that they can do in a friggin monster of sw system as well | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: see bme | 15:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: see BT/Wlan coexistence | 15:39 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: see crippled driver for LP5523 | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: see xprot | 15:41 |
| ShadowJK | I think the biggest probkem with bluetooth is that, based on current progress, it will reach day to day usable stability in about 10 years after it's obsolete :) | 15:41 |
| ShadowJK | bluetooth in general, not just n900 :) | 15:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | otoh sometimes EE is blind to synergy effects coming from sw side. Example: ALS which is redundant to front camera | 15:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe, depending on specs of both | 15:43 |
| ShadowJK | uh the camera probably uses enormous amounts of power :) | 15:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, but the way ALS works now, it wouldn't matter too much, given the camera can power-up in 1ms, take one frame, and power-down | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | I've seen designs using frontcam as ALS | 15:45 |
| ShadowJK | als has bigger range too :) | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, and they have a second sensor inside ALS to substract the IR from that too wide spectrum :-P | 15:46 |
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| ShadowJK | you even see digital cameras with ALS on same side as lens :) | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | or did you talk about LUX range | 15:46 |
| ShadowJK | yeah lux range | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 15:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I think you got the picture anyway, no need to throw more examples at you | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | they are just examples after all, no comprehensive list of any kind | 15:48 |
| ShadowJK | Speaking of cameras... | 15:49 |
| ShadowJK | anyone thought about putting a small peltier element near the sensor? | 15:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | there are such camera designs | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | not in mobile phones though | 15:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | for a good reason | 15:51 |
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| SpeedEvil | There is no need for cooling. | 15:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | for ultra low noise you like to | 15:52 |
| SpeedEvil | There are ambient temp sensors as found in some cameras that will do >>30 second exposures | 15:52 |
| SpeedEvil | consumer cameras | 15:52 |
| SpeedEvil | well - prosumer | 15:52 |
| ShadowJK | oh I just noticed how noise free last year's new year's fireworks I videod on n900 was | 15:53 |
| ShadowJK | and I remember it was like -35C that night :) | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: yeah, but that sat has some liquid helium in a tank, to cool down the sensor to ~0k :-D | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | K even | 15:54 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - it matters if you're taking long exposures - and critically - have a CCD which has a readout noise in the low single photoelectrons. | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 15:55 |
| SpeedEvil | If you're reading out at video rates - then the noise is huge - dozens or hundreds of photoelectrons. | 15:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bottomline: not really feasible for consumer electronics | 15:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - there are integrally amplified chips - which are cool. | 15:57 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.phxatl.com/html/impactron_products.html TI's impactron series | 15:57 |
| SpeedEvil | a solid-state electron-multiplier | 15:58 |
| SpeedEvil | (stupidly expensive) | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: what's your Die ID? the one with coolest hex string number will win today's lottery :-D | 15:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | where? | 15:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | /sys/power/idcode | 16:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | IDCODE: 4b7ae02f | 16:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeahyeah | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | that one never changes | 16:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | Die ID: 10015019 040360df 00000000 35c20004 | 16:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Die ID: 0c006012 040364fb 00000000 38760004 | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh, no leetspeak :-/ | 16:01 |
| SpeedEvil | this is the power supply chip ID? | 16:02 |
| SpeedEvil | well - twl* | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess so | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAIA twl4030 | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | way better than IMEI :-P | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | (*hint* *hint*) | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | HEH! I also got a 040364fb | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Die ID: 0c004012 040364fb 00000000 44f60004 | 16:05 |
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| * RST38h being attacked by Turkish spammers | 16:17 | |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg28405.html hmm, maybe it's SoC aka OMAP3430, not twl4030? | 16:18 |
| RST38h | So, what are you all dying from tonight? | 16:18 |
| SpeedEvil | RST38h: snow | 16:18 |
| derf | Delicious foods. | 16:18 |
| SpeedEvil | Or just general being pissed off. | 16:18 |
| RST38h | snow - check. foods - check. bile - check. | 16:20 |
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| RST38h | Why the hellam I still alive? =) | 16:20 |
| SpeedEvil | Maybe you are not. | 16:20 |
| RST38h | True. | 16:20 |
| derf | RST38h: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, nicolai got the renderer working, it updates metadata and can play/pause or skip | 16:20 |
| RST38h | badder, at least. | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | (pause actually stops for some reason, minor problem) | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, I also got Share via email and BT working, but we need Mafw Source support to populate the list | 16:22 |
| MohammadAG | Oh and those things that alterego calls delegates would be nice :P | 16:22 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: MediaPlayer+? | 16:23 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 16:23 |
| RST38h | cooool | 16:23 |
| MohammadAG | one more thing | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | starting any Qt application when the desktop is in portrait mode causes a segfault | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | to test it, do a sleep 10; nameofqtapp in terminal | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | then start the phone app and flip to portrait | 16:25 |
| MohammadAG | see a segfault | 16:25 |
| RST38h | oh | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | hehe, famous last words: x does y for some reason. Minor problem. | 16:25 |
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| * alterego tries to think of a name for his new "accounts" package. | 16:28 | |
| MohammadAG | Mohaccounts? | 16:29 |
| alterego | teeheehee | 16:29 |
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| SpeedEvil | alterego: MoNay. | 16:32 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: More seriously - what sort of accounts thing? I was looking for something slightly less trivial than 'siggy' | 16:33 |
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| alterego | SpeedEvil: well, it's a custom build web based accouting system for a specific company. | 16:36 |
| alterego | To track their customers and status of customer accounts, also sends out automatic monthly/periodical invoices etc. | 16:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah - I see. | 16:36 |
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| alterego | Or notifies a member of staff via email that an invoice is ready for print & postage. | 16:36 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm looking for a personal finance solution. | 16:37 |
| alterego | I just use gnumeric :) | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - ideally I'd like something that worked sanely on the phone. | 16:38 |
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| alterego | I wonder if anyone does an online personal finance service. | 16:39 |
| alterego | Those kinds of apps are generally lacking good quality on mobile devices. | 16:39 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah, | 16:39 |
| alterego | a "MeeGo Cash" app would be cool. | 16:39 |
| alterego | I'll write it in my app ideas list :) | 16:40 |
| SpeedEvil | I want something more than just chequebook. | 16:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Able to cope with multiple accounts, and cash, and upcoming bills and payments. | 16:40 |
| alterego | Sure, would be realy cool with OCR, you could use it to read in reciepts and graph your spending. | 16:40 |
| alterego | Yeah, that would be cool. Also, budget management, so you can clearly see how much cash you've got left to spend (outside of bills) | 16:41 |
| aep | alterego: s,on mobile devices,, | 16:41 |
| alterego | And add "ghost" periodical budgets for say, bills that happen quarterly, but you need to set a bit aside each month. | 16:41 |
| SpeedEvil | My ultimately ideal one would have a product database, so I can scan off a can of beans at home - hit 'trash', and it reduces my home stock of beans by one. | 16:41 |
| Scorcerer | how (un)stable are applications in extras-testing ? i mean, with all those warnings that one should use only extras repository i'm not entirely sure i should use it, but on the other hand i'm using gentoo-unstable on my machines so little digging and ustability is normal for me.. | 16:41 |
| SpeedEvil | And adds it to a shopping list. | 16:41 |
| alterego | SpeedEvil: that would be cool. | 16:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Scorcerer: generally not | 16:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Scorcerer: In general - they are fairly stable, and most instabilities can be remedied by uninstalling | 16:42 |
| alterego | Even if it was as simple as, you scan the items and say what they are and how much they cost when you get home from a shop, then consecutive scans will know when you scan it :) | 16:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | alterego: yes | 16:42 |
| Scorcerer | ah, so good enough for me :D thanks | 16:42 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: though added p2p goodness | 16:42 |
| alterego | SpeedEvil: yeah, you mean host an online product db for people to upload/share to? :) | 16:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Scorcerer: using the 'backup' application is not a bad idea - you may also drop your phone in the toilet | 16:43 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: yes. | 16:43 |
| alterego | Yeah, I'd definitely do that too. | 16:43 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: Of course, this can lead to feature creep. | 16:43 |
| alterego | Lets do this! :) | 16:43 |
| Scorcerer | yea, we don't want that :P | 16:43 |
| alterego | In fact, that'd make a nice xmas holiday project. | 16:44 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/foxs/glacier-mints/ | 16:44 |
| SpeedEvil | for example - would be nice to have that info tied to the bacode, and exportable to a diet program | 16:45 |
| alterego | Yeah, you've inspired me, it would be a damn good use of my "semantic core". | 16:45 |
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| GAN900 | Nasty day to be at work. | 16:47 |
| SpeedEvil | http://buddi.digitalcave.ca/faq.jsp - was sort-of-interesting, but diddn't really do enough | 16:48 |
| SpeedEvil | I couldn't get it to show me my upcoming balance taking into account already entered bill due dates and income - which is a pretty core feature | 16:48 |
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| alterego | Heh | 16:52 |
| alterego | Would you like to jot down features you'd like to see? and I'll start thinking about the core. | 16:52 |
| alterego | I should be able to start hacking on it next week :) | 16:53 |
| alterego | Anyhow, gotta go to the shop now. | 16:53 |
| alterego | bbbl | 16:53 |
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| RST38h | Great news for Alien franchise purists, as conceptual artist H.R. Giger has been confirmed as a contributor to the prequel that Ridley Scott is set to begin shooting in February. | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | muhaha, first all chinese spam mail :-P | 16:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | thanks to my ex-colleagues of Taipei my spammassassin thinks this is something possibly worth reading X-P | 16:59 |
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| MohammadAG | and once again, a nice youtube application is made worse by custom widgets to play the video | 17:19 |
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| Venemo | hi again | 17:21 |
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| Tokmob | hello | 17:24 |
| Venemo | hi Tokmob | 17:24 |
| Tokmob | could someone help with | 17:24 |
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| Tokmob | i want to access my win 7 shared files via wlan | 17:25 |
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| Tokmob | and dont know how | 17:25 |
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| Tokmob | have tried wizard mounter with no results | 17:26 |
| Tokmob | but im a noobie | 17:26 |
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| Tokmob | please :) | 17:27 |
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| DokterW | Hi. Having some issues with customising the default menu. I found the menu file: ~/menus/hildon.menu with the following permissions: 644. I changed them to: 666. Tried to make some changes, but changes didn't get saved and the file has now the old permissions: 644. Any ideas? | 17:59 |
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| Tok | while using wizard mounter | 18:01 |
| Tok | mount: mounting //10.0.0.4/Music /media/ Remote_Filesystems/Music@10.0.0.4 failed: Permission denied | 18:01 |
| Tok | any ideas? | 18:01 |
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| tank-man | wizard mounter mounts my shares in my home/doc directory | 18:03 |
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| tank-man | maybe it is talking about the permissions on "/media" directory ? | 18:03 |
| Tok | i'm not sure if i know what you mean | 18:04 |
| mlpug | DokterW, maybe it dislikes 666 as its the "devils figure". could it be file ownership issue? | 18:06 |
| tank-man | Tok, can you see the windows shares from a linux desktop ? | 18:06 |
| tank-man | or even a windows desktop | 18:06 |
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| SpeedEvil | alterego: http://wiki.maemo.org/User_talk:Speedevil/accounts | 18:07 |
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| Tok | tank-man, from what desktop? | 18:08 |
| tank-man | from a differnt pc, can you see the windows shares? | 18:08 |
| Tok | yes | 18:09 |
| Tok | from my laptop yeah | 18:09 |
| Tok | win7 on it | 18:09 |
| joppu | Tok: are you using homegroup? | 18:10 |
| Tok | yes | 18:10 |
| joppu | check "advanced sharing settings" | 18:10 |
| DokterW | mlpug: Hmmm... Haven't tried that yet. I'll give it a go. Thanks. | 18:10 |
| RST38h | "A stationary black cylindrical creature camouflaged as a tree. Rammed into all moving objects at roughly 70 meters per second." | 18:10 |
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| Tok | joppu any ideas? | 18:11 |
| Tok | im in the advanced sharing settings now | 18:11 |
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| DokterW | mlpug: Most files and folders have the owner user:users, but I've also seen user:root. Might give that a go. | 18:12 |
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| DokterW | mlpug: Nope. Didn't work. :( | 18:14 |
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| joppu | Tok: do you have password protected sharing on? | 18:22 |
| tank-man | lol | 18:22 |
| tank-man | tok, did you enter a username and password in wizard mounter? | 18:22 |
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| lardman | urgh, I thought I'd fixed my scanning from an image, but apparently not :( | 18:25 |
| Tokz | i did yes | 18:25 |
| Tokz | windows user username and password? | 18:26 |
| tank-man | yes, the windows user name and password | 18:26 |
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| Tokz | yes that's what i've done | 18:27 |
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| Tokz | still the same error | 18:27 |
| Tokz | mount: mounting //10.0.0.4/Music /media/ Remote_Filesystems/Music@10.0.0.4 failed: Permission denied | 18:29 |
| Tokz | what does that /media/ mean? | 18:29 |
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| tank-man | that is the mount point it is trying to use i think | 18:30 |
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| Tokz | okay | 18:31 |
| Macer | hm | 18:32 |
| Macer | what does meego have that maemo 5 doesn't? i mean. is it simply and updated ui? | 18:32 |
| Macer | and a newer kernel? | 18:33 |
| RST38h | It has support from major industrial leaders! | 18:33 |
| Macer | i am just curious because i figured the main thing required by an n900 was a kernel and its modules to get all the hardware working | 18:33 |
| Macer | so why not just replace the ui? :) | 18:34 |
| Macer | using the current maemo 5 kernel and modules | 18:34 |
| Macer | can't you just build stuff against the current working kernel and modules and create a new ui | 18:34 |
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| Macer | i am only curious because getting all the hardware working on the n900 seems to be the biggest hurdle for nitdroid and meego | 18:35 |
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| Macer | but all the hardware works in maemo5 so why not just use that base and build off that? all the other stuff like qt already "works" for maemo5 | 18:37 |
| RST38h | Macer: Because Maemo5 kernel has no support from major industrial leaders? | 18:37 |
| Macer | lmao | 18:38 |
| tank-man | isnt that like running linux in a windows with a virtual machine? | 18:38 |
| jacekowski | Macer it's linux thing | 18:38 |
| jacekowski | Macer: incompatibilities between different versions | 18:38 |
| Tokz | i getting really pissed off right now | 18:38 |
| Tokz | i want to get that file sharing working =( | 18:38 |
| Macer | versions of what? :) just build against the working kernel heh | 18:39 |
| Macer | it is confusing. maybe because i am not a dev | 18:39 |
| Macer | but i have had some boxes run a kernel for many years without problems | 18:39 |
| Macer | even when installing different WMs | 18:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pffff, I'm waiting for the next undo of an undo of an undo of an undo.... Maybe takes a while til MohammadAG notices the changes on ~flashing page | 18:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~flashing | 18:43 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | : a good example why wiki sometimes does NOT work | 18:43 |
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| Macer | haha | 18:51 |
| Macer | well. found out why one of my boxes went down. guess there was a damn screw on the mboard | 18:52 |
| Macer | must have shorted it | 18:52 |
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| Macer | at least it was a really old box :) guess i can rape the parts and make something with them | 18:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, a bird cage | 19:05 |
| woodong50_______ | jo | 19:05 |
| woodong50_______ | hi | 19:05 |
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| Venemo | hey | 19:06 |
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| dotblank | Is http://repository.maemo.org running REALLY slow? | 19:09 |
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| Triscar0 | what prog is a "must have" for n900 ? :D | 19:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hi dos1 | 19:14 |
| dos1 | DocScrutinizer: hi! | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~xyawn | 19:15 |
| infobot | from memory, xyawn is sleep | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah! | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | rethink! | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~xyawn | 19:16 |
| infobot | good coffee | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | k, better | 19:16 |
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| Venemo | Triscar0: one such a prog is the game called Puzzle Master | 19:18 |
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| RST38h | (Puzzle Master is written by Venemo) | 19:20 |
| Triscar0 | hehe okok | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | puzzlemaster is awesome | 19:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Triscar0: your question is a bit to general | 19:24 |
| Triscar0 | is there a site where i can browse apps ? | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr, yes? | 19:25 |
| RST38h | and there is also google.com,too | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ | 19:26 |
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| nox- | moin | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | moin | 19:35 |
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| nox- | moin DocScrutinizer | 19:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nox-: pull your lottery ticket! `cat /sys/power/idcode|grep Die` - the most leet hex value will earn a FRUBMARFZ | 19:45 |
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| dotblank | ok now this is odd | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1 | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | and this is even | 19:47 |
| dotblank | gdk pixbuff exists in my sdk | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | 0 | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, getting silly | 19:47 |
| dotblank | I run ./gdk-pixbuf-csource | 19:48 |
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| dotblank | and I get bash: ./gdk-pixbuf-csource: No such file or directory | 19:48 |
| dotblank | cat ./gdk-pixbuf-csource | 19:48 |
| dotblank | ELF(t�44(pHH�44�4�4�4���TT�TTT���```HH�H� Q�td | 19:48 |
| dotblank | so the file exists...... | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF?? | 19:48 |
| nox- | Die ID: 1001501b 04037d20 00000000 79b40004 | 19:48 |
| nox- | dotblank, ldd it | 19:48 |
| nox- | hm ok if maemo has ldd... | 19:49 |
| dotblank | that works | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | file should suffice | 19:49 |
| nox- | no `not found'? | 19:49 |
| dotblank | yea | 19:49 |
| nox- | hm | 19:49 |
| dotblank | but bash is messed up or something | 19:49 |
| dotblank | im in the arm sbox btw | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably a x86 ELF | 19:49 |
| nox- | ah | 19:49 |
| dotblank | What package has that... hmm | 19:50 |
| dotblank | need an arm version of it | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | file ./gdk-pixbuf-csource | 19:50 |
| dotblank | ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped | 19:51 |
| dotblank | lol it is arm | 19:51 |
| nox- | if you're on pc wont you need qemu-arm to run that? | 19:51 |
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| dotblank | well im in the sbox... | 19:52 |
| Venemo | hi again | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | hello again | 19:52 |
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| dotblank | do I also need to install that in the x86 target | 19:52 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: I was able to solve the problem by manually setting an IP address. seems that for some reason the driver wasn't able to request one with DHCP | 19:53 |
| dotblank | ok so I switched to the x86 target and it exists | 19:53 |
| dotblank | why won't bash run that elf? and in fact say it doesn't even exist | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | could somebody please toss the cmd that hides chan-join-quit, on e.g. irssi? sth like /conference-mode on | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: weird | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | the syslog clearly said "error in libcryptfoobar" | 19:54 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: weird indeed. | 19:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: you're sure you not accidentally associated to neighbour's AP? | 19:55 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: the dmesg is still full of "rtllib_rx_decrypt: decrypt frame error" | 19:55 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: I'm sure :) | 19:55 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer: at Budapest I do connect to a neighbours AP (unprotected wifi), but that goes without issue :P | 19:56 |
| Venemo | anyway, problem solved. | 19:56 |
| nox- | dotblank, you may have some `exec arm binaries with qemu-arm' setup thats messed up (and that i forgot the name of) | 19:57 |
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| dotblank | lol there is no libgdk-pixbuff | 19:59 |
| dotblank | in the maemo package repos | 20:00 |
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| macmaN | anybody know who to talk at nokia to to get osso-media-player open sourced? :) | 20:40 |
| macmaN | talk to* | 20:40 |
| macmaN | i wonder why it isnt | 20:40 |
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| alterego | What's the point? | 20:41 |
| alterego | Anyway, a few people are currently writing a clone of the media player. | 20:41 |
| alterego | Which is better, :) | 20:41 |
| javispedro | alterego: UNLESS you like Gtk+ ;) | 20:41 |
| javispedro | morning | 20:41 |
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| macmaN | well i happen to like osso quite well and would simply like to patch a few things | 20:42 |
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| javispedro | macmaN: unfortunately it's not going to happen at this point | 20:43 |
| javispedro | unless you have a million dollars.. | 20:43 |
| macmaN | best bet is meego huh | 20:44 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: http://wiki.maemo.org/User_talk:Speedevil/accounts | 20:44 |
| macmaN | i'd like to get some life out of this n900 until meego actually arrives | 20:45 |
| macmaN | some more* | 20:45 |
| DocW | we can only hope that vlc gets better. | 20:45 |
| alterego | SpeedEvil: thanks :) | 20:45 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: There are so many shiny bits possible - but some are probably way out of the scope of an initial porject | 20:46 |
| alterego | SpeedEvil: sorry, what was supposed to be a simple trip to the shop turned into a massive winter snow adventure because I locked myself out of my flat. | 20:46 |
| alterego | Yeah | 20:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Snow is fun! | 20:46 |
| alterego | Still, feature wishlists are always good. | 20:46 |
| SpeedEvil | I've just been clearing snow off my poly-tunnel by moonlight. | 20:46 |
| SpeedEvil | As I've been feeling lousy today, and diddn't get up till recently | 20:47 |
| alterego | Auto cash/coin count is a bit, well, out there ;) | 20:47 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - that was simply random ideas. | 20:47 |
| alterego | :) | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Spread cash out on table, no coin overlapping, and just scan n900 over it. | 20:48 |
| alterego | Would be cool. | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a pretty simpe in principle OCR task | 20:48 |
| alterego | But there are lots of different currencies etc. | 20:48 |
| alterego | So much to take into account. | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - I was assuming it'd only work for one currency at a time | 20:48 |
| alterego | What if you could use the touch screens pressure sensitivity to weigh your money :D | 20:48 |
| * alterego chuckles | 20:49 | |
| SpeedEvil | The aim would be to roughly count your cash, not to identify numismatic rarities in your pockets. | 20:49 |
| alterego | :) | 20:49 |
| SpeedEvil | though I'd love to fit one of those to vending machines. | 20:50 |
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| GAN900 | SpeedEvil, hehe, that one's been waiting in the Rolsdex for a while, hasn't it? *g* | 20:54 |
| SpeedEvil | ? | 20:55 |
| bernie | since yesterday, gstreamer is whacked on my n900. no sound even during phonecalls. any idea? | 20:55 |
| bernie | I rebooted a couple of times, but no effect. I'm running fremantle 1.3 | 20:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Sound on my n900 has broken - pulseaudio won't start | 20:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm on 1.2 here | 20:55 |
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| SpeedEvil | I haven't yet investigated it | 20:55 |
| GAN900 | SpeedEvil, "numismatic rarities in your pockets" | 20:56 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 20:56 |
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| bernie | SpeedEvil: does the mediaplayer say "format not supported" when trying to play any mp3? | 20:57 |
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| SpeedEvil | it plays no sound at all | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | over the whole device | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | pulseaudio does not start | 21:00 |
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| javispedro | SpeedEvil: open root terminal and type something like "pulseaudio --system" | 21:01 |
| javispedro | watch stdlog+stderr | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | ****************** INIT DONE ************* E: voice-sidetone.c: Cannot open /sys/devices/platform/omap-mcbsp.2/st_enable | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | then it dies | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | with a segfault | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | It works with power kernel | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | I have no idea - I've had no time to diagnose | 21:03 |
| javispedro | iirc you might need to chmod some /sys entries | 21:03 |
| javispedro | check /etc/event.d/pulseaudio | 21:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | ah - chmod fixed that error - but it still segs | 21:04 |
| javispedro | well, if you have time, point gdb to it... | 21:05 |
| javispedro | or look for the debug-level cmd line parameter | 21:05 |
| javispedro | or log-level, not really remember. | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | ?? | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, nvm | 21:06 |
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| SpeedEvil | I'm robably just going to flash it | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | never wase a steady bug | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | waste* | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | strace probably just fine | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | gdb bt even better | 21:08 |
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| SpeedEvil | I completely agree - in principle. | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | at very least you could keep a coredump | 21:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | But I'm in the middle of making presents for christmas, and I'd like music while I'm doing it. | 21:13 |
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| SpeedEvil | Program received signal SIG57, Real-time event 57. | 21:13 |
| SpeedEvil | 0x40399798 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 | 21:13 |
| SpeedEvil | 0x40399798 <poll+104>:cmnr0, #4096; 0x1000 | 21:13 |
| SpeedEvil | (gdb) c | 21:13 |
| SpeedEvil | does not enlighten | 21:13 |
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| javispedro | yeah, that should not terminate it -- you can prevent the rt signals from breaking into gdb but don't remember how | 21:14 |
| javispedro | (from the top of my head) | 21:14 |
| SpeedEvil | well - it's at the same point it cores. | 21:14 |
| SpeedEvil | or moments after | 21:14 |
| javispedro | hu | 21:15 |
| javispedro | m | 21:15 |
| * javispedro agrees with DocS but thinks this being pr1.2 will make it harder to reproduce/debug | 21:15 | |
| RST38h | moo javispedro | 21:15 |
| nox- | handle SIGfoo nostop | 21:16 |
| nox- | iirc | 21:16 |
| javispedro | hey RST38h | 21:16 |
| SpeedEvil | exactly | 21:16 |
| SpeedEvil | ~flashing | 21:16 |
| infobot | flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 21:16 |
| SpeedEvil | And I have no idea why I'm not being offered 1.3 | 21:16 |
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| javispedro | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YrfMnYORL._SS500_.jpg | 21:18 |
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| javispedro | the future, today! | 21:18 |
| weeedar | hey | 21:18 |
| weeedar | is there a way to get this working on n900? | 21:19 |
| weeedar | psi-im.garage.maemo.org/ | 21:19 |
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| weeedar | i tried installing via .deb and just got packet incompatible | 21:21 |
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| SpeedEvil | Were the problems with crhome ever fixed? | 21:23 |
| SpeedEvil | chrome | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: (not offered) uninstalled maemo metapkg? | 21:26 |
| SpeedEvil | don't think so | 21:26 |
| alterego | You mean the licensing stuff? | 21:26 |
| SpeedEvil | I've not done anything wierd | 21:26 |
| alterego | That meant we couldn't distribute it on maemo.org ? | 21:26 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: yes | 21:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | By 'fixed' I mean sorted so it could be, or was externally available | 21:26 |
| alterego | Haven't heard anything, who was the package maintainer? | 21:27 |
| SpeedEvil | don't remember | 21:27 |
| alterego | Oh, the maintainer had it on his site iirc | 21:27 |
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| weeedar | is there a jabber clientt supporting MUC? | 21:33 |
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| Jaffa | SpeedEvil: alterego: the maintainer wasn't interested in us helping talk to the people C&Ding for it to be on maemo.org | 21:39 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 21:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Jaffa: surprise? I gather it's a adridiot project? | 21:57 |
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| Venemo | hi again guys | 22:29 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, got a new profile on tmo? http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=47227 :P | 22:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, my new kbd slide sound function even better. It can be disabled :-P | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | yay, net split | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, would pulling out a microSD card from the N900's slot without the back cover protection thing cause any damage? | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 23:17 |
| ShadowJK | could corrupt the filesystem and/or corrupt entire eraseblocks on the card | 23:17 |
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| SpeedEvil | Also - it risks a nuclear explosion of between 8 and 14 megatons. | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | exactly | 23:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | could even damage the whole card | 23:18 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, forgot to mention umount | 23:19 |
| MohammadAG | what if it was unmounted first? | 23:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | then it's mostly safe | 23:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WTF? | 23:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | uhuh, no netsplit but a scheduled rerouting | 23:27 |
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| alterego | Hahah | 23:31 |
| alterego | That's weird. | 23:31 |
| alterego | Someone must be taking the piss MohammadAG | 23:31 |
| MohammadAG | altermeego | 23:32 |
| alterego | altar | 23:32 |
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| MohammadAG | no, that's his nick, and that ^ is your new nick | 23:32 |
| alterego | I dunno, I don't like it :P | 23:33 |
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| alterego | Anyhow, think it's bed time now. | 23:35 |
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| Pradeep | alterego hi tried it today it work | 23:40 |
| Pradeep | but could not update my app | 23:40 |
| Pradeep | i mean update my phone | 23:40 |
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| Pradeep | alterego, you there | 23:43 |
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| SpeedEvil | ~flashing | 23:44 |
| infobot | somebody said flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 23:44 |
| MohammadAG | <alterego> Anyhow, think it's bed time now. | 23:44 |
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| Pradeep | i connect my n900 via usb to my computer on a LAN | 23:46 |
| Pradeep | it worked but i could not update my firmware | 23:47 |
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| Pradeep | it would always ask me for my preffered connection and LAN was inclusive | 23:47 |
| PhonicUK | hey all | 23:48 |
| PhonicUK | whats the state of the various PSX emus these days? | 23:48 |
| Pradeep | even when i did apt-get ugrade it did not update it | 23:48 |
| Pradeep | but is it possible | 23:48 |
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| Pradeep | any clue | 23:51 |
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