IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2010-07-30

Dantonicit's listing all directories I guess00:00
Dantonicis there a way to make it list the total size or something?00:00
crashanddiedu -sh00:00
mgedminbut you want it to list all directories00:01
Dantonic26.9G  :(00:01
mgedminthen you'll be able to see where those gigs live00:01
mgedminor you could du -chs ~/MyDocs/*00:01
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Dantonichow do I make it list a little at a time?  there are too many, it =00:01
mgedminto see an overview of just 1 level00:01
mgedminand then repeat it for the largest subdirectory00:01
korhojoaDantonic: you can | less it00:02
crashanddieDantonic: du /home/user/MyDocs | more00:02
mgedmincaveat: this misses hidden directories (those with names that start with a dot), but then again VFAT doesn't allow filenames to start with a dot, so forget it00:02
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Dantonichah with du -chs ~/MyDocs/*  I get a total of 14.2G00:03
Dantonicall the directories look correct00:03
Dantonicthe space they take up I mean00:04
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DantonicI guess it must be in a hidden directory?00:04
mgedminls -lA MyDocs00:05
_llll_most things are in .documents00:05
_llll_or .sounds and the others00:05
mgedminoh duh!00:05
mgedminI feel so stupid for forgetting that00:05
Dantonicwhat's that?00:05
mgedmin(and assuming vfat wouldn't allow it)00:05
mgedminthe standard locations for Documents, Videos, Audio files are ~/MyDocs/.documents etc.00:05
_llll_it's some bizarre way to allow "Documents" to be translated or something00:06
mgedminit's so they can be translated into different languages without renaming the actual directories00:06
DantonicI see00:06
Dantonicso how should I check that? du -chs ~/MyDocs/.documents/*00:06
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_llll_du -sh ~/MyDocs/.documents00:07
_llll_what does c do?00:07
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Dantonicuhm... 65.8M00:07
E0xhow the service provider name get draw in the screen ?00:07
E0xxlib or something ?00:07
Dantonicthat's just pointing to the "Documents" folder00:07
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Dantonicwithin MyDocs00:07
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mgedminthe file manager said "audio files", right?00:08
mgedminso du -chs ~/MyDocs/.sounds00:08
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mgedmin-c is probably only useful if you du more than one argument00:08
mgedminI have it hardwired in my fingers00:08
Dantonicya 7.6M00:08
mgedminsince I never remember if I want -c or -s00:08
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DantonicI have all my music in a separate folder called "Music"00:08
_llll_s is "summary"00:09
mgedminwell, we've established that you've got 26 gigs of filed in MyDocs00:09
mgedminnow you want to know where00:09
jacekowskincdu is nice00:09
mgedminand we know it's in a hidden folder, since du -chs MyDocs/* finds only 14 gigs00:09
jacekowskior there was that gui thing00:09
Dantonicso how do we search just the hidden folders?00:09
mgedminso du -chs ~/MyDocs/.[a-zA-Z]*00:10
_llll_fand hope it isnt names .000-horse-p0rn00:10
Dantonicso why wouldn't du -chs ~/MyDocs/.*  work?00:10
Dantonicu gotta put the a-z stuff?00:10
mgedminshell kinda sucks; there's no way to "match .* except for . and ..", and you don't want to du /home/user/MyDocs/../ == /home/user ...00:10
DocScrutinizer51 fsck that, laptop completely refuses to play, N900 is doing diashow on medium quality, and total crap on low quality00:10
mgedminwow, perfect timing ;)00:10
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DrIDKIs somebody very very nice , to help me to push my first application via ssh/git ?00:11
Dantonic12.1G home/user/MyDocs/.Trash-100000:11
mgedminhe he!00:12
Dantonicit's the trash bin??!!!00:12
Dantonichow do I empty the trash bin!!00:12
mgedminmaemo doesn't use one; it must be from a time you used the usb cable with a linux laptop00:12
mgedmindon't these normally ask "do you want to empty your recycle bin before ejecting"?00:12
mgedminanyway, rm -r ~/MyDocs/.Trash-100000:12
mgedminor rm -rf00:12
crashanddie"If women are so bloody perfect at multi-tasking, how come they can't have a headache and sex at the same time?"00:13
Dantonicwell idk I've only connected it with my desktop... Ubuntu 9.1000:13
Dantonicand I did transfer about 12 GB of stuff at one point00:13
Dantonicthat must be it00:13
Dantonicthen deleted it on the device00:13
Dantonicthis was months ago00:13
Dantonicomg thanks so much guys00:14
Dantonicthanks for the help00:14
Dantonicso how can I avoid this in the future?  If I transfer files and delete make sure I empty recycle bin before ejecting the drive?  Or just delete straight on the N900?00:14
Dantonicafter disconnecting USB?00:14
E0xi install the scratchbox at my netbook now i need move install it in my desktop , i can use the /scratchbox folder for not download everything again ?00:15
E0xhow i can reuse it ?00:15
crashanddieE0x: you must be a tree-hugger. Recycling bytes.00:15
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E0xcrashanddie: ?00:16
crashanddieE0x: you can copy over the users directory, but nothing else00:16
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Dantonicargh it's not deleting it!00:17
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DocScrutinizerDantonic: I'd sugest a `ln -s /dev/null MyDocs/.Trash-1000` but alas it won't work like that on crappy VFAT fs00:18
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Dantonicit's ok got it00:19
Dantonicjust did a rm -r .Trash*00:19
magick777Dantonic, in Nautilus on ubuntu, Edit, Preferences, check option to include a delete command that bypasses waste bin00:19
Dantonicyay I have my 12 GB back!!!00:19
magick777and use it00:19
magick777that'll stop it happening again00:19
DocScrutinizeryep, but about the >><Dantonic> so how can I avoid this in the future?<< part00:19
Dantonicoh I see thanks00:19
Dantonicln -s /dev/null MyDocs/.Trash-1000  what does that do exactly?00:20
DocScrutinizermaybe just never use simple 'delete' instead always use shift-'delete' on Buntkuh00:20
DocScrutinizerwhen deleting from attached USB00:20
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Dantonicwell basically as long as I DO NOT delete while it's attached on USB... I should be fine right?00:20
DocScrutinizeryep - lol00:20
magick777Dantonic, yes but that's overkill00:20
DocScrutinizerDantonic: ever gave mc a try?00:21
magick777just add a real delete option to your Nautilus menus00:21
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DocScrutinizerblarghh gnome00:21
magick777indeed... and shift-delete doesn't work as you might hope00:22
DocScrutinizeryep, prolly KDE fancy00:22
DrIDKwhat does it mean : Please make sure you have filled in your garage credentials to ~/.netrc. The info that needs to be added there is the following: ?00:22
Dantonicok magick I cehcked that option00:22
magick777but, Ubuntu does a great job of converting Windoze users who "value" those sort of "features"00:22
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Dantonic<DocScrutinizer> Dantonic: ever gave mc a try?  what's that?00:23
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Dantonicmidnight commander?00:23
DocScrutinizermidnight commander, a norton commander clone00:23
Dantonicno never00:23
DantonicI've seen it i the repositories00:23
Dantonicnever installed it00:24
DocScrutinizeryou should have it in buntkuh repos for sure00:24
DocScrutinizerjust use instead of noteilutz00:24
DocScrutinizererr nauseatilus00:24
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DocScrutinizere really WYSIWYG filemanager00:25
DocScrutinizera real*00:25
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DocScrutinizerno fancy icons, and also no trashcan00:26
DrIDK... what' s garage credentials to ~/.netrc. ? Where is this file ?00:26
DocScrutinizerbut nice little gimmicks like instant file editing, compare files and directories etc00:26
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DocScrutinizermagick777: for ubuntu see
DocScrutinizerwhere my vocabulary using ubuntu and gnome in a completely interchangeable way00:30
magick777I was sceptical in the early days, looked like another Mandrake00:31
magick777but, I used it to rescue a debian LVM system I hosed, and rather liked it00:32
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DocScrutinizerhonestly if somebody likes windoze look and feel, then please stay with redmond products and be a happy camper. I for one prefer a linux that looks and feels *better* than any redmond crap, instead of trying to mimick vista and inevitably failing on that00:33
magick777it's not the look and feel I like... it's the fact that more of it just works00:33
magick777sensible use of repos, less arcane policy about non-free essentials00:34
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magick777I started with slackware, spent 2 years running gentoo and several on debian... ubuntu is now my flavour of choice00:34
magick777which surprises me, also00:34
magick777but, it finally just bloody works00:35
jacekowskiubuntu is just ekhm00:35
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jacekowskiit's like a vista00:35
DocScrutinizererr, buntkuh is as far away from a standard linux as it can get without losing the tag. I don't like that00:35
jacekowskiand heavy00:35
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magick777I would accept all those arguments.... and still it's more  usable right now than debian or gentoo00:36
jacekowskigentoo is unusable even on 4 core xeon00:36
jacekowskibtw. is emerge still soooooo slow?00:36
magick777probably not on a 4-core xeon, it was hopeless on a p400:37
jacekowskii mean just dependencies calculations00:37
magick777been a while since I used it (thankfully)00:38
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DocScrutinizerI'd need another 7 testers. Anybody got a few minutes for ?00:42
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* asj looks00:44
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jacekowskihow is version 0.2 different from 0.100:46
DocScrutinizer0.2  * description cleanup, change pretty name to "*# Starhash Enabler".00:47
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DocScrutinizeradded link to bug reporting tmo, adds XB-Maemo-Upgrade-Description field (which is usually painfully missing in other pkgs, *hint hint*)00:48
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DrGrovDocScrutinizer: I would love to test it but unfortunately the N900 is not used as phone anymore :/00:48
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asjDocScrutinizer: you just aclled *# so it would end up on the top of the list didn't you ;)00:49
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DocScrutinizerhmm, I wonder if that's an obstacle at all. In the end the whole dealing with *#numbers is in dialer anyway, so nothing I could change wrt any bug there00:50
DocScrutinizerasj: not exactly, it was mainly to give a clue wtf is starhash. But the effect was welcome ;-)00:51
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DocScrutinizerDrGrov: *# is just *enabling* the CC in dialer. So all you need to test is if it installs and deinstalls correctly, and if it maybe causes general fuckup of system :-)00:53
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: My N900 is having issues at the moment... :( Not working out very well.00:53
DocScrutinizerany bugs in dialer when CC are enabled have to be addressed to Nokia rtcomm00:53
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asjis there a way to remove an app from extras-devel?00:54
jacekowskiasj: ask X-Fade to do it00:54
DocScrutinizeryep, only way00:55
asjjacekowski: ok thanks00:55
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DocScrutinizerjacekowski: (what's diff in 0.2)
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asjDocScrutinizer: there you go, one more vote :)01:00
DocScrutinizerthanks mate :-)01:00
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rlinfatiHi, someone upload a libsdl-mixer1.2 to extras-devel, and it's in conflict with the nokia version...01:02
tremnite all, sweet dreams01:04
rlinfatithe check of the builder are not working
DrGrovAnyone got any Nokia E-series phone and perhaps want to help a bit?01:06
Arkenoidoes anyone have current accelermymote and descent working correctly together on pr1.2?01:07
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johnsu01DrGrov: help with what?01:07
DrGrovjohnsu01: you got a E-series phone?01:07
johnsu01DrGrov: yes, I have an old e61 (but I'm on my way out, which is why I was asking what you had in mind)01:08
DrGrovjohnsu01: ok, i just thought i'd ask that do you know if I can customize the "messages" shortcut to something else than e-mail? i have an E5201:08
johnsu01DrGrov: hm, don't know off the top of my head. I was waiting till a free symbian image was flashable before turning it on again :)01:09
DrGrovjohnsu01: ah okay, you had some issues with it?01:10
johnsu01DrGrov: no, I loved that phone, but I have an n900 now which is a lot closer to my goal of a free software phone :)01:10
johnsu01but I'd happily tinker with free software symbian as well, once they get an installable image available01:10
DrGrovjohnsu01: okay, i still have my n900 but i opted for the e52 due to its superior battery life, both phone and standby time. and it works better as a phone01:10
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johnsu01the E series are really nice phones, no doubt about it01:11
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: maybe /join #symbian ?01:11
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: sorry for off-topic01:11
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magick777DocScrutinizer, voted up, does what it says on the tin....01:14
DocScrutinizermagick777: thanks01:15
asjDrGrov: look in settings01:16
DrGrovasj: i have tried but no luck.01:17
DrGrovbut nevertheless, does not matter since i kind of do not need that shortcut.01:17
DrGrovbut on the other hand it could be a nice shortcut to my pr0n01:17
asjDrGrov: hmpf, might need an app to change it, of course it needs high level caps01:18
asjDrGrov: is the e51 3.1 or 3.2?01:18
DrGrovasj: i can check later on again though. i am pretty sure it is there somewhere01:18
DrGrovno, it is not an e5101:18
DrGrovit is an e5201:19
asjsorry e52, is it 3.1 or 3.2?01:19
DrGrovthe latest, i bought it just this week so i presume it is 3.1201:19
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* asj geos to look at an e7201:20
DrGrovasj: I was also checking at the E72 but I did not fancy the full QWERTY keyboard though. Makes my situation too difficult.01:21
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DrGrovasj: you think the E52 is 3.1 or 3.2 if I bought it last week?01:21
asjDrGrov: Control Panel->Settings->Phone->Personilization->One-Touch->01:22
DrGrovasj: huh?01:23
asjDrGrov: it's 3.2.  That's how to get the menu to change the keys01:23
DrGrovokay, it is 3.201:24
DrGrovah, i will check that out. thank you01:24
DrGrovnot anymore today. i want to keep the use at minimal and standby to see whether it lasts 1 week without any charging.01:24
asjDrGrov: oops that's wrong, Ctrl. Panel->Settings->General->Personilisation->One-touch01:25
DrGrovasj: no problem, i will check from there :) tomorrow I will do it when I am intoxicated by some nice Stolichanya vodka ;-)01:25
asjthat's also where you can disable the aweful "Opti nav key" on the e7201:25
DrGrovWTF is the Opti nav key? I have not seen such a key. Not available on the E52?01:26
DocScrutinizerstolichnaya been the buzzword. Me away...01:26
DocScrutinizeras I'm really not interested in E-series01:27
DrGrovI will get seriously intoxicated tomorrow. My friend said I will crawl on the floor01:28
DrGrovMy fiancee perhaps not too thrilled about this prediction but nevertheless, it will be jolly good ol' fun01:28
DrGrovI can always give her the N900 to play with and she will become much more stable01:28
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DocScrutinizerlcuk: how do you like my letterbox hack (regardless of the pain to playback and from abysmal quality)?01:30
DocScrutinizerlcuk: jacekowski: :-)01:31
asjDrGrov: on the dpad of the e72 when you slide your finger it does the equivalant of the motions, it's basically touch sensitive01:33
kerioDocScrutinizer: epic01:33
DrGrovasj: that is so cool01:33
DrGrovasj: i wonder why it took me so long to finally get an E-series phone.01:33
asjDrGrov: the problem is, it sucks.  Because it's enabled and the d-pad clicks, so when you go to click it the selection runs around like crazy since you also slid your finger01:33
DrGrovI did not want the E51, E61, E63, E66, E90 but the E52 is the shit.01:34
asjDrGrov: you must be really drunk01:34
DrGrovasj: drunk?01:34
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DrGrovasj: WTF? I am not drunk.01:34
asjDrGrov: just wait till you use symbian for a month, then don't come crawling back us crying ;)01:35
DrGrovasj: I still have the N900 there.01:35
DrGrovasj: the N900 is being used for different purposes.01:35
asjDrGrov: try developing for symbian, it's a sole crushing grinding pulverizing anahalating experience, and that's just installing the tools01:36
DrGrovI will never develop for Symbian so quite frankly I do not give a fuck01:36
ShadowJKyou managed to install the tools? I never made it that far01:36
ShadowJKI ran out screaming and chewed on a tree until it fell down. It was easier and more rewarding01:37
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asjShadowJK: symbian levels of difficulty, from easiest to hardest: tool install, compiling something, making it work, making it do something useful, trying to get your app signed, wondering who came with the cleanup stack and how to kill them, TDesC01:39
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DocScrutinizerShadowJK: MrBeaver ?01:39
ShadowJKif Symbian was a forrest company, that's how they'd cut down trees01:40
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DocScrutinizerbtw downloading and playback in mediaplayer seems to work nicely. Just I don't see a download link on Ovi unless logged in to the account :-/01:42
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DocScrutinizerOvi epic fail01:43
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dmj726_develI'm trying to compile the fcamera example application and am getting the error: You must enable NEON instructions (e.g. -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon) to use arm_neon.h01:46
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ShadowJKprobably also -mcpu=Cortex-A801:47
dmj726_develI looked in the and found QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp01:47
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dmj726_develso I'm not sure why it would be missing those01:48
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dmj726_develhas anyone else gotten fcamera to compile?01:56
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* dmj726_devel assumes so for obvious reasons but is interested if any tweaks have been needed.01:57
tybolltDocScrutinizer: ovi epic fail?01:57
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tybolltmind elaborating?=01:57
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calamarijust curious if anyone has heard rumors of an n900 successor?02:30
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tripzerocalamari, rumors02:32
tripzerogoogle for 'n9'02:32
tripzeroyou'll find lots of rumors ;)02:32
DocScrutinizer51gpsjinni is buggy. what's been the name of that location test gui?02:35
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DocScrutinizer51seem unable to find it in HAM02:35
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calamaritripzero, thanks :)02:36
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DocScrutinizer51SpeedEvil: ping02:54
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DocScrutinizer51SpeedEvil: what's been that other package (official nokia?) to test GPS?03:15
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DocScrutinizer51or sth03:16
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DocScrutinizer51seems gone in ham?03:17
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DocScrutinizer51or my LOCALE is fooling me once more (like for fmradio)03:18
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SpeedEvilii  location-test-gui                                   0.93-1+0m5                          Location test gui03:21
DocScrutinizer51SpeedEvil: any link to a deb to install? apt-cache doesn't find either03:21
DocScrutinizer51or repo?03:21
SpeedEvilI think I installed it from a repo - but I have lots installed03:22
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DocScrutinizer51I'm sure I installed from repo, but it's gone in the usual ones03:22
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DocScrutinizer51thanks, .deb via microb worked03:25
DocScrutinizer51pool/maemo5/nonfree? WTF03:26
DocScrutinizer51I feel like missing a few more weird catalogs03:27
zeltakhya guys...was wondering how well the gps works on other n900 without network assistance (i dont have a data plan)03:30
zeltakin my n900 (only got it last week03:30
zeltak)it works like that normal?03:31
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asjzeltak: yes :(03:33
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SpeedEvilzeltak: I have it connected over wifi, with no SIM, and it works just fine.03:33
zeltaki see bummer... :(03:33
SpeedEvilIf you use it moderately often03:33
SpeedEvillock is ~30s03:33
zeltakSpeedEvil: yeah but when your driving its hard to get wifi all the time :-)03:33
asjzeltak: you should only need it within 4 hours of your drive03:34
SpeedEvilzeltak: I think it works fine withoout wifi, I will test that tomorrow.03:34
SpeedEvilplus - it will go for 16 hours with GPS on03:34
zeltaki tested it with the default nokia maps.took like 5 minutes to get a lock and kept loosing the gps signal every minute or so...that kinda sucked03:35
zeltakyeah i dont think ill use the gps much day to day but was kinda hope to use it once in a while when driving..03:35
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asjzeltak: network access only helps with initial fix03:35
asjzeltak: so you might want try a different location in the car, one with less metal overhead perhaps?03:36
zeltaki see asj good to does fix after a while (a long while:))03:36
zeltakasj i tried it walking ;-)03:36
zeltakso that wasnt the problem..lol03:36
zeltaki wonder then how the sygic gps turn by turn nav they sell for mameo works since the signal is so unrelaiable03:37
asjzeltak: heh, I admit I don't use the gps a lot (I have like 5 gps devices) but hands atenuate it a lot (as apple found out) as does tree cover and buildings03:37
asjzeltak: but I've had very solid locks with it03:38
zeltaki see ..did u guys see the utube apple spoof,,hilarious:03:39
asjyeah that's funny03:39
DocScrutinizer51gps is friggin awesome once you got first fix03:40
SpeedEvilI don't find it unreliable personally.03:41
nox-where is the gps antenna on the n900?03:41
SpeedEvilI have done long term studies on the GPS accuracy.03:41
zeltakhi DocScrutinizer51 really? i did get a fix that was fine but it kept loosing the signal every minute or so03:41
SpeedEvilThe RMS error is under 5m.03:41
DocScrutinizer51for first fix though it helps a lot to have a)gsm b)wifi c)no moving til fix03:41
zeltakok ill try it outside my house in a few minues where i can still get some wifi going03:42
zeltaki hope that helps03:42
DocScrutinizer51maybe your car is well faraday with metal coated windows?03:42
* zeltak hopes the wife will be patient while playing arounf with gps before going out to dinner :)03:42
zeltakDocScrutinizer51: i actually tested it outside walking :)03:43
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asjzeltak: losing signal == weak lock.  Once you have your first fix signal strength requirements are much less.  of course, poor satelite visibility can be an issue if they're all down near the horizon.03:44
DocScrutinizer51I found it will lock up in a limbo state if no fix in some 120s03:44
DocScrutinizer51if no GSM03:44
DocScrutinizer51stop and restart did it for me03:44
zeltaki see..yeah i dont have a data plan (i sit under wifi all day at uni :))03:44
DocScrutinizer51occasionally took 15min with wifi03:45
DocScrutinizer51then keeps good TTFF for at least several hours03:46
DocScrutinizer51with GSM always less than 1min ( if possible at all)03:46
zeltakok good to know..yeah gsm is not hapenning soon..maybe in the fufutre03:47
olebromI have GPSJinni running to get gps-fix without a-gps (network trafic) operative. This since the standard apps drops out before gps-fix is established.03:47
zeltakahh cool olebrom is that in te repos?03:47
olebromyeah, I will check which.03:48
zeltakkk thx03:48
zeltakfound it thx03:49
zeltakapt cache is cool :)03:49
olebromHere it is at
zeltakolebrom: thx man03:50
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olebromRepo: fremantle free03:55
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zeltakoff to tst the gps on the way to back later ;-)03:57
zeltakthx guys03:57
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DocScrutinizer51zeltak: olebrom: location-test-gui is muuuuuuch better. See backsroll for .deb03:59
olebromI will say the GPS on N900 is okay, but Ovi Map for Maemo is not by far the same as on Symbian... :-(03:59
DocScrutinizer51known issue04:00
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asjI don't understand why they don't do turn/turn on the n900, I guess it's the lack of drm04:01
DocScrutinizer51ovi sucks big time04:01
DocScrutinizer51nope lack of foresight04:01
asjDocScrutinizer: I don't buy that04:01
DocScrutinizer51doing for maemo would mean they are done for future meego highend04:02
DocScrutinizer51but they don't get that fact04:03
lcukn900asj n810 had closed turn by turn on it04:03
DocScrutinizer51so leave maemo behind as for thwm it's 'EOL'04:03
asjlcukn900: hmm04:03
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DocScrutinizer51so we have to wait for first meego flagship device, then ovi maps implemented for meego, then backport to maemo evemtually - morons04:07
DocScrutinizer51sales mgmt04:08
Macerdidnt see that coming? :)04:09
Macermaemo will be sitting there with no updates waiting on people to backport apps04:09
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Macerwhat is the meego flagship device supposed to be? the aava?04:10
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Macerthe demo of the aava stuff looks awesome04:10
DocScrutinizer51no. honestly didn't think the sw engineers are not capable to tell mgmt 'let's do it NOW, so we got it rwady in time. And maemo/meego doesn't matter'04:11
DocScrutinizer51port forward to meego is even simpler than backport to maemo04:12
Macerhave to wait for a completely "finished" product to know for sure04:13
DocScrutinizer51plus they buy image of 'we care'04:13
DocScrutinizer51it's evident now04:14
DocScrutinizer51develop under maemo/qt and you are set for porting to meego on push of a button04:15
Macerhonestly. in the end... people will concentrate most of their efforts on meego dev04:15
Macerand let the maemo ppl who actually still care to handle backporting04:15
DocScrutinizer51doesn't matter - backport is as easy04:16
DocScrutinizer51it's qt04:16
Maceryou would think. what if whatever you are backporting requires a new kernel module that you cant build for maemo for some reason?04:16
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DocScrutinizer51which one?04:17
Macernot everyrhing is qt :)04:17
Maceri dont know04:17
Maceryah haha04:17
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DocScrutinizer51that's honestly BS. meego kernel is no way better than maemo04:18
Maceri didnt say it was begtter or worse04:18
Maceri just meant there could be some unforeseen issue in backporting/foreporting04:19
Macerexactly ;)04:19
Macernobody truly knows for sure until people start building for both04:19
DocScrutinizer51if there is then better learn early - then fix, in meego04:20
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asjIf meego includes the security model proposed for maemo6, good luck trying to backport it, even if runs it won't auth and will fail04:22
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DocScrutinizer51if DRM hits kernel, I'll fill the package with my 2 N900 and 5kg of C4, then send to Nokia04:23
EdLinDocScrutinizer, there's going to be DRM in Meego....04:23
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asjDocScrutinizer: it'll be way deeper than the kernel04:24
DocScrutinizer51I'm talking about signed kernels04:24
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EdLinthe ROM image in many Android phones has encryption, my cliq XT apparently has this - if I'd known there'd be no ROMs (and no root yet, tho that's probably coming) I would have gotten something else. (I have a n810 and am thinking "n900" now)04:27
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EdLinthat's tivoization....04:28
EdLintake a look at the Droid X for an example of tivoization.04:28
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harry_hollandhi all04:29
nox-moin harry_holland04:29
DocScrutinizerfor now only NOLO is signed, for all we hear from those who should know04:30
EdLinwhat's NOLO?04:31
DocScrutinizerbut a signed NOLO is first step. They can replace it with a bootloader refusing to load a not correctly signed kernel any time04:31
DocScrutinizerNOkia bootLOader04:31
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EdLinwhy does the boot loader need to be signed, according to Nokia?04:31
DocScrutinizeryou can not replace NOLO on N900, because you don't have the right key to sign your new bootloader04:32
DocScrutinizerit's a property of OMAP, allegedly04:32
EdLinthis doesn't cause any problems for dual-booting android, right?04:32
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EdLinOMAP has all sorts of DRM stuff, including the ability to corrupt hardware if it doesn't like what you're doing.04:33
DocScrutinizerif android can be booted by NOLO then for sure not. But NOLO can NOT dual boot04:33
EdLincan it chain-load a dual-boot system?04:33
DocScrutinizerso you can - for NOW - boot to maemo, then from there kexec to andridiot04:34
SpeedEvilWhere 'boot to maemo' can mean just the kernel04:35
SpeedEviland an init script04:36
DocScrutinizerif Nokia decides to swap NOLO for something more restrictive, then you'll find yourself with a N900 which is running Nokia kernel *only*, and that kernel does not have or support kexec04:36
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, if Nokia decided to lock-down the N900, the community would be up in arms.04:36
DocScrutinizerfor sure. I announced my actions a few lines up04:37
EdLinthe Meego devices may not be as open, I don't know, but is Nokia really going to put the genie back in the bottle for N900?04:37
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DocScrutinizerwhen I asked about that topic on #meego-meeting conference, they were rather closed up high04:38
EdLinall the N900 has is community users, there's less than 100,000 sales.04:38
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DocScrutinizer"that's not meego domain. Depends on manuf's policy" fsck!!04:39
EdLinthe carriers don't sell it, it's an unlocked device only.04:39
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, Meego might be a different story than N900, it's much bigger than Nokia/Intel - already non-Nokia/Intel devices have been released.04:39
DocScrutinizerEdLin: seems wrong. I heard of 500k in first <whatever period>04:40
EdLinDocScrutinizer, Reuters ran a story saying less than 100k.04:40
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EdLin500k is impossible, the most popular Android devices don't have over 1 million and something.04:41
DocScrutinizerc'mon, there's 30k on tmo04:41
EdLinDocScrutinizer, I didn't say a lot less than 100k, 30k on tmo is most of the american sales right there.04:41
DocScrutinizeryou can'r convince me about >1/3 of N900 owners are on tmo04:41
EdLinwhy? It's the only US carrier with 3g for the device.04:42
DocScrutinizernot T-Mo04:42
DocScrutinizerand btw you bet max 10% of N900 went to USA04:43
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EdLinI don't know if I should trust your stats, but the 500k figure you give is literally impossible, because the Droid X, the biggest selling android device, sold less than 2 million.04:45
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DocScrutinizerseem t have heard different numbers04:45
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asjEdLin: I think you might under estimate the sales of nokia devices, even the n90004:46
DocScrutinizerwell, I think I'm pretty sure about the ~30k on And I know from experience how many percentage of users actually engage in such a activity04:47
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DocScrutinizerfor sure NOT one out of three04:47
EdLinDocScrutinizer, you're apparently right that  I should question the figures Reuters reported, they're from Gartner.04:47
DocScrutinizerwell, there's also N810 owners04:47
EdLinI'm an N810 owner. :)04:47
DocScrutinizerI think they are <20% on tmo04:48
DocScrutinizerthe ones that have N8x0 but no N90004:48
EdLinin the US, over 50% are on tmo. Certainly, unless you like EDGE and higher prices.04:48
DocScrutinizertmo IS NOT T-Mo04:48
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asjEdLin: the Reusters report was very odd.  It wasn't meant to be a high volume device, nin the US it didn't even have carrier subsidy04:49
DocScrutinizertmo == talk.maemo.org04:49
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DocScrutinizerT-Mo is T-Mobile04:49
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SpeedEvilIt was 'never' going to sell well in the US, for that reason04:49
EdLinyou can get an n900 on Amazon for $399 now. :)04:50
Ljrn900T-Mo US doesn't even know it exists04:50
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EdLinIt's in my budget,  I think I'm getting it....04:50
EdLinI'm tired of using a locked-down Android cliq xt that is stuck at Android 1.504:50
SpeedEvilYou can even run dosbox, and edlin in it.04:51
EdLinLjrn900, T-Mo US knows it exists more than AT&T does. ;-)04:51
* DocScrutinizer thought edlin is a genuine unix posix command04:51
EdLinDocScrutinizer, I've been using this nic since 1990 on DOS BBSs.04:52
DocScrutinizerok, edlin is not04:52
DocScrutinizered is04:52
EdLinDocScrutinizer, it's a MS-DOS command, not POSIX.04:52
EdLined is a lot better than edlin, it has regular expressions!04:53
DocScrutinizersed etc and siblings of course04:53
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DocScrutinizersorry doing that shit tooooo long04:53
DocScrutinizermixing things from 1980, prolly Alzheimer04:53
DocScrutinizeranyway jacekowski, find a way to flash a non-signed bootloader, pretty please!04:54
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EdLindoes the N810 have any internet radio apps, or do you just have the browser for that?04:55
EdLinoops,  n90004:55
DocScrutinizern900, sure04:55
DocScrutinizergo HAM, search 'radio'04:55
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* ShadowJK just uses the media player04:56
DocScrutinizereven that04:56
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DocScrutinizer"Musik" "Video" "Internetradio" "Zufallswiedergabe" (=random play over all categoties, how mad is THAT?)04:58
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, is there a twitter widget for Maemo 5?04:59
* DocScrutinizer wonders if it will skip from internet radio to a 2h movie on end of a sonf, or on end of mediastream04:59
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DocScrutinizerI bet there is, but please check the appropriate website04:59
DocScrutinizer even05:01
DocScrutinizerand that's not yet a comprehensive list05:01
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DocScrutinizerfor anybody interested and too lazy to do the math: that's 83 pages of 50 pkgs each, plus rubbish05:12
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, I didn't see a twitter widget, only some twitter libraries for a chat client and a media player. :(05:14
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DocScrutinizerdon't ask mee, I'm absolutely twitter averse05:16
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DocScrutinizerbut maybe you found a opportunity for a groundbreaking new app?05:17
DocScrutinizerprobably if there is none, and you ask for it in then it takes 2 days for something to hit the repositories05:18
DocScrutinizeror you simply write it yourself05:18
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DocScrutinizer (read all of the bug carefully) muhaha05:22
DocScrutinizerin my next holiday05:22
DangerMausbah i just hqave an external bt gps antenna05:23
DocScrutinizerthere's no such thing05:24
GAN900Anybody remember that blog post from somewhere on the internet from a few years ago about that (Russian?) scientist who was experimenting with all sorts of incredibly dangerous stuff ( RST38h?)?05:24
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DocScrutinizerDangerMaus: maybe you got an external GPS receiver, incl chipset and all. You can't tehter an antenna via BT05:27
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SirSpamHello, I just downloaded and installed the Maemo Desktop SDK virtual machine for VirtualBox. Currently, the ubuntu vm can connect to the internet, but it appears that the maemo emulator can not. Did I miss something?05:42
zeltakok back from dinner :) DocScrutinizer i can say that the wifi locked helped alot :)05:43
zeltakit got a lock in like 2 minutes and was pretty reliable after that..05:43
zeltakon the way back without the wifi lock it took forever to get a lock and wasnt so reliable but its an improvment from before :)05:44
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zeltakenyone use conky not as an "app" but on one of the desktops? is that possible at all?05:45
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DocScrutinizerin such situation it seems to help if you got a GSM registration so location lib can get the country, maybe even BTS tower. No real need for data connection, but the lib gets confused when no clue on which continent05:46
zeltaki see05:46
EdLinSirSpam, is /etc/resolv.conf ok in both ubuntu and the sandbox?05:48
SirSpamEdLin: How would I know if it's correct? Sorry, Linux is not my main O/S. I just got this virtual machine image from the website.05:50
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SirSpamit appears to be correct. The nameserver has the correct ip for my router05:52
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EdLinSirSpam, it's identical for both the sandbox and the main system?05:56
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SirSpamEdLin: I'm running Windows 7 as my host system. Then VirtualBox is hosting the Maemo SDK, then the Maemo SDK is hosting the ESbox for the actual maemo install..06:03
SirSpamSo I can't compare the files, but the ip addresses are correct06:03
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SirSpamthe Maemo SDK (Ubuntu Image) can browse the internet. It's just the ESbox thing can't.06:05
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luke-jris it possible to reset trackerd?06:08
luke-jrmine must be corrupt or something, since it never finishes and never knows about my media06:08
luke-jrDocScrutinizer: no such thing? I have an external Bluetooth charger, why wouldn't the same principles apply to antenna?06:09
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SpeedEvilrm -rf /06:16
SpeedEvil /home/user/.tracker/cache or something06:16
SpeedEvil /home/user/.cache/tracker/06:17
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luke-jron the other hand, why the heck does trackerd *only* run when I'm using it⁈?06:23
SpeedEvilread the config file06:25
SpeedEvilI've managed to tame it for me.06:25
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DocScrutinizercould we file a bug ticket against that braindamaged concept?06:36
asjDocScrutinizer: if we filed a big against every brain damaged concept we would never get any work done06:39
DocScrutinizerlet's figure it, you take three snapshots of your child biking, then want to show it to Mom, and have to pick them out between all the pr0n showing up in the unified pictures view06:41
GAN900An attitude that's clearly led to an efficient, stable and pleasant-to-use platform. . . .06:41
DocScrutinizerthat's so incredibly daft, there's no words for that06:43
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DocScrutinizerwhat for we actually got a hirachical filesystem?06:44
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DocScrutinizerwe could as well use flat filesystem without any folders, like we got on cpm06:45
EdLinDocScrutinizer, CP/M 2.x had "user", a way to hide files and show them.06:46
DocScrutinizeryep, 16 afaik06:46
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DocScrutinizerall media goes to user 906:46
EdLinDocScrutinizer, you're making my brain hurt, I haven't read a CP/M manual in over 20 years.06:47
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EdLinmost of the whippersnappers on the channel are younger than my CP/M manuals.06:48
DocScrutinizertracker concept & mediaplayer/photos viewer makes *my* brain hurt06:49
EdLinDocScrutinizer, does canola use that stuff?06:50
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DocScrutinizernope but it has other massive bugs afaik06:50
EdLinDocScrutinizer, when I used my n810 half the time as a glorified iPod, I prefered canola to the default media player.06:51
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, I don't know what the situation's like on the n900, has the default media player gotten better, or maybe canola got worse? ;-)06:54
DocScrutinizercanola for example has no hw acceleration06:55
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, the n810 has no hw acceleration for anything. ;-)06:55
* dunz0r is quite satisified with the default player in his N90006:55
EdLinit's a case then of "canola got worse".06:56
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EdLinor the n900 got better, rather.06:56
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CasTTeLLohi guys06:56
dunz0rHi CasTTeLLo06:56
CasTTeLLohi dunz0r06:57
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DocScrutinizeralso iirc I found the concept in canola on N900 not exactly superior to the braindead tracker idiocy in mediaplayer. At least was so bad I forgot about details06:57
CasTTeLLoso wat is the topic of the day??06:57
* CasTTeLLo :)06:57
EdLinCasTTeLLo, tracker idiocy in the default media player and CP/M.06:57
CasTTeLLothanks EdLin06:58
EdLinany time06:58
DocScrutinizerCP/M beats tracker - runs circles around it06:58
CasTTeLLoN900 rock!06:58
EdLinI see the topic excites you so much that you're staying around for more.06:58
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, yeah, CP/M can really play those MP3s good too.06:59
DocScrutinizerno reason why not07:00
EdLinDocScrutinizer, those Z-80s have terrific math crunching.07:00
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DocScrutinizerI bet a OPAM @ 600MHz can emulate a 250MHz Z8007:01
EdLinDocScrutinizer, not to mention H264 acceleration, and maybe even some Vorbis acceleration, my memory fails me.07:01
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, I bet it'd beat a typical Z-80 system of the day, in emulation, without a problem.07:01
EdLinwhat did the Z80s stop at, 12Mhz?07:02
DocScrutinizeryep something like that07:02
EdLinand even then, they had awful clock cycle efficiency.07:02
EdLinlike anything intel or intel-based before the 80286.07:02
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DocScrutinizeryeah, 16 cycles for a MUL07:03
DocScrutinizeror 3207:03
EdLinZ-80 had MUL?07:03
DocScrutinizersure, 16bit MUL07:03
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EdLinof course, a 6502 could do some multiplication faster than an 8088 which had a hardware MUL instruction, because it was so bad at it.07:04
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DocScrutinizerI just remeber CD was call subroutine and C9 was rreturn. Even that might be wrong07:04
EdLinyou're right about CD.07:04
DocScrutinizer0xCD and 0xC907:04
EdLinI remember 6502 a bit better than Z-80.07:04
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EdLin6502 had a good RISC instruction set, as much as one could talk about an 8 bit being RISC.07:05
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EdLinit also had more addressing modes than the 8080.07:06
EdLinI still don't know if I can keep straight indexed indirect and indirect indexed. ;-)07:07
DocScrutinizerbut then Z-80 had 2 register banks. Invaluable for ultrafast IRQ service routines07:07
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, what's an IRQ? Something that's better than memory mapped soft switches?07:07
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EdLinthe Z-80 was a great controller chip, but a mediocre CPU. The 8088 and it's offspring have been just more and more roccoco on the 8080 foundation.07:09
DocScrutinizerIRQ is a electrically triggered indexed jump to an address that's defined in a table at pos <index> which table start addr offset is in IRQ pointer register07:09
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EdLinDocScrutinizer, you sound like an intel manual.07:10
EdLinor wikipedia07:10
EdLinmemory mapped hardware addressing seemed to me to be more elegant, regardless of the value of doing it another way in the embedded sphere at the time.07:12
DocScrutinizerI forgot to add: ... out of arbitrary program text, while current content of PC is pushed on stack before addr from IRQ table is stored to PC07:12
EdLinDocScrutinizer, you're a stack.07:12
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DocScrutinizeror was it like that: the IRQ controller chip supplied an 8 bit IRQ subroutine addr to databus during assertion of IRQ line?07:21
* DocScrutinizer shrugs07:22
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DocScrutinizerprolly no Z-80 out ther anymore nowadays07:23
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Maceranybody here running morphos?07:31
Macerlooks good07:32
RST38hmoo all07:33
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Macerwonder what kind of numbers a 600MHz omap can crunch out :)08:02
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slonopotamusMacer: ~ twice less than at 1.1GHz :P08:11
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slonopotamusbtw, looks like kernel from extras did smth to powersavings. my n900 now works longer08:12
slonopotamusMacer: and, crunching numbers with python is some evil joke.08:13
Macerslonopotamus: maybe you can use gentoo to do it with something else.08:14
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Maceralthough i think it does some sort of dist type deal but i don't know. i haven't tried it08:14
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slonopotamusi observed python being 100-1000 times slower than C on heavy calculations tasks08:15
Macerit would be nice to send pkts from the n900 to some retarded sized cluster08:15
Macerhey. it has cuda and stream support08:15
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Maceryou can just install 4 outrageously overpriced nvidia cards and get massive calculation throughput08:15
slonopotamusMacer: you got cuda on n900? :)08:16
Maceryeah. just waiting on the blob :-P08:16
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Macerthere probably is some deactivated nvidia chip in it that can calculate the position of all matter of the universe by taking a picture of one section of the night sky08:17
Macerv2 will do dark matter08:18
Macermaybe do some string theory calculations in order to determine the shape of the mass within an event horizon ... so much potential the n900 has08:19
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Maceri bet meego can do it08:22
* Macer hides08:22
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Macerwow. just realized chrome has tab completion for wikipedia searching :) i can't stand google but love chrome08:23
Macerbest browser ever made08:23
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MiXu-Macer: Tab completion? Doesn't work for me. Which version do you have?08:28
Macerin the address bar.. type wiki and hit tab ;)08:29
Maceri did it by accident08:29
Macerit was like opening a dictionary to the page with the word you were looking for08:30
slonopotamusMacer: i think it was autocomplete from things you searched.08:31
MiXu-for me wiki + hitting tab just goes to :)08:31
Macerslonopotamus: nope. it just does this....08:31
MiXu-Oo, there's 6.0.447.0 Beta08:31
* timeless_mbp finally gets around to rsyncing fremantle1.2 to mxr.meego.org08:31
MacerSearch Wikipedia (en):08:31
Jucato_slonopotamus: thanks for the pointer last night (a few hours ago?) about the arch problems. seems like there's a bug (or some issue) with libqt4-gui,-webkit, and -xmlpatterns08:32
Macerand you type the thing in that you are looking for08:32
Macerand it goes to the article :)08:32
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MacerMiXu-: try http://www.wikipedi(tab)08:32
slonopotamusJucato_: for me, it was yesterday, yep :) np08:32
Maceri dunno. mine does it when i just type wikipe(tab)08:32
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Jucato_slonopotamus: what is this autobuilder you spoke of? I couldn't find a direct reference in the wiki. anything that saves me from a lot of .deb packaging work is very much welcome :)08:33
MiXu-Macer: That doesn't autocomplete at all since I haven't visited that particular url08:33
Maceroh well.. idk ;) works for me... thought it was cool08:34
slonopotamusJucato_: autobuilder is just a thingie that you upload your package to and it then builds it and (if successful) puts in extras-devel repo08:35
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Jucato_I'm not at that level of skill to confidently get my app immediately to extras-devel :)08:36
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slonopotamusJucato_: (some stuff may not be applicable to maemo, but in general it should give right hints).08:41
* Jucato_ wonders how much their doc has changed since he tried packaging when he was still with Kubuntu 3 years ago :)08:42
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slonopotamusJucato_: well, if you are a masochist, you can read debian policy manual.08:45
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timeless_mbpanyone here have lsof 4.84?08:45
* timeless_mbp wants to know if there's any hint of a fix for rsync "can't identify protocol" in lsof between 4.74 and 4.8408:46
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: 4.82 here08:47
timeless_mbpcan you try using rsync and seeing if lsof gives you can't identify protocol?08:47
timeless_mbpi'm doing it from one computer to another08:47
timeless_mbp4.84 is a couple of days old :)08:48
slonopotamuserr... rsync and run lsof on it while rsync is running?08:48
timeless_mbpif necessary, suspend rsync ;-)08:48
timeless_mbpi'm sending a couple of gb from ec2 to dh08:49
timeless_mbpso i don't have to worry about the command going away anytime soon :)08:49
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timeless_mbp <- see the last line08:51
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: works ok here08:54
timeless_mbpis that over an ip (ssh) link?08:55
slonopotamusover rsync :)08:55
timeless_mbpbut is it doing rsync locally?08:55
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slonopotamusno, remote rsync08:55
timeless_mbpwhat does it list?08:56
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timeless_mbpyou don't have any sock's08:58
timeless_mbpbut you have an unix08:59
slonopotamusuh? TCP, one before last08:59
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timeless_mbpyeah, but compare mine08:59
slonopotamuswell, two before last08:59
timeless_mbpfor me, i'm labeled sock instead of ipv408:59
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timeless_mbpis this doing rsync direct to an rsync?09:00
timeless_mbpi'm using rsync over ssh09:00
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: that was plain rsync, yep09:00
timeless_mbpcan you try over ssh?09:01
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slonopotamustimeless_mbp: gimme yor ssh public key09:03
timeless_mbpheh, sorry09:03
timeless_mbpyou should be able to use rsync ssh to yourself09:04
* timeless_mbp = stupid09:04
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slonopotamustimeless_mbp: ssh (i don't have second box with ssh reachable currently) in order not to pollute hd, you can start rsyncing and ctrl+z it.09:11
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timeless_mbpok, i think i did that?09:13
* timeless_mbp = stupid09:13
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slonopotamusJul 30 10:13:32 seldon sshd[14201]: Accepted publickey for timeless from port 56496 ssh209:13
timeless_mbpok, i think i did that09:14
timeless_mbpis it running enough to have stuff?09:14
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slonopotamusHul 30 10:13:32 seldon sshd[14201]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user timeless by (uid=0)09:15
slonopotamusoh noes, now i know your ip :)09:15
timeless_mbpfor a public computer?09:15
timeless_mbpthat's mxr.moego.org09:15
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: 1.6GB free there.09:16
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: not sure i understand you09:16
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timeless_mbpthe ip origin for this session isn't where timeless_mbp is09:16
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timeless_mbpit's a cloud box which is publicly reachable as :)09:16
* slonopotamus is in a crappy subway, bad coverage09:16
timeless_mbpso the ip isn't a secret :)09:17
slonopotamusoh :)09:17
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: so ssh and make your experiments with lsof09:17
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: gcc and stuff is there too, so you can compile other than 4.82 versions09:17
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slonopotamustimeless_mbp: for ex, run rsync-over-ssh from there to your box09:18
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: and check what lsof says on both sides09:18
timeless_mbpgood point09:18
* timeless_mbp is getting slow09:18
slonopotamusokay, you were assigned pts/2. use it with care.09:19
timeless_mbpsorry, slightly distracted09:20
* timeless_mbp is trying to update sources somewhere09:20
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: why you need lsof anyway? :)09:20
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timeless_mbpi just use it to see what's going on09:21
timeless_mbpit takes less effort than ps + ls /proc/.../fd (oops missing -l, ...)09:21
slonopotamustimeless_mbp: and something's wrong with rsync?09:21
timeless_mbpwell, i never remember to give arguments -v to rsync09:21
timeless_mbpso i don't know what it's doing on the remote side and want to know if it's doing something useful or stupid09:21
timeless_mbpyes, i could use dry-run09:22
timeless_mbpbut i don't09:22
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slonopotamuswell, rsync (when given wrong arguments) tends to destroy stuff on target side :)09:23
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timeless_mbpin this case i used rsync -a directory-without-slash host:path/to/parent-of-where-i-wanted-it09:23
timeless_mbpscanning [                                                                                                         <=>          ] 3470 THIS REPOSITORY IS NO LONGER IN USE, PLEASE USE09:24
timeless_mbpoh, that's great09:24
timeless_mbpsomeone doesn't understand how DVCS works09:24
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slonopotamuswhat's that? :)09:25
timeless_mbpprobably a  maemo6 repo09:25
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timeless_mbpi have a git clone followed by hg convert09:25
timeless_mbpthe 3470 indicates how many changesets from where it is to tip of the repo09:25
timeless_mbpand the text is the first line of the commit message for that changeset09:25
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timeless_mbpi.e. after someone committed that, they made 3470 commits *somewhere* to a repo which included that commit09:26
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slonopotamus_timeless_mbp: so your goal is to rsync smth or find out when/how lsof broke?09:28
slonopotamus_(still in subway, meh)09:28
timeless_mbpmore or less, i think09:28
* timeless_mbp is still at home09:28
timeless_mbpactually, i think it's to figure out if it's "fixed"09:28
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timeless_mbpor a feature of dh09:28
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slonopotamus_timeless_mbp: you can't answer that way09:29
slonopotamus_timeless_mbp: drink some coffee :P09:29
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timeless_mbpok, the rsync from your computer to dh gives the same message09:29
timeless_mbpas rsync from mxr to dh09:30
timeless_mbpi guess i need to build lsof on dh and figure out if it's broken09:30
timeless_mbpls: reading directory /proc/net/: Invalid argument09:30
timeless_mbpi think dh is "special", as it gives ^^09:31
slonopotamus_ /proc mounted at all?09:31
timeless_mbp[sanjay]$ mount|grep proc09:31
timeless_mbpproc on /proc type proc (rw)09:31
timeless_mbpnone on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)09:31
slonopotamus_some weird kind of vm?09:31
timeless_mbpi think the design is to prevent one user from snooping on another and stuff09:32
timeless_mbpnot sure if it's based on selinux or what09:32
timeless_mbp[sanjay]$ mount|grep nfs|wc -l09:32
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timeless_mbpthose are basically users09:33
slonopotamus_oh my.09:34
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slonopotamus_timeless_mbp: as for -v, create shell alias rsync -> rsync -v/-p?09:35
slonopotamus_or what option it had for progressbar...09:35
* RST38h yawns09:35
RST38hEHLO slonopotamus_09:35
slonopotamus_RST38h: ohai09:36
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Stskeepshm, anyone good with linux run-time linker behaviour?09:38
timeless_mbpStskeeps: what about it?09:39
* timeless_mbp is always good for quirks09:39
Stskeepstimeless_mbp: i have a package providing /usr/lib/ and my binary is linked towards /usr/lib/libGLESv2.so09:39
Stskeepswill it find the so.2?09:40
timeless_mbpyou'll probably be unhappy09:40
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timeless_mbpgenerally .so<unversioned> is provided by a -dev package09:40
timeless_mbpso if you install the -dev package, you'll probably be able to use your binary09:40
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timeless_mbp(obviously locally "fixable" by a symlink)09:41
Stskeepsthe funny part is that .so (unversioned) is mandated by a specification09:41
timeless_mbpif it's mandated and not provided, then surely some package or distro is buggy?09:42
Stskeepsthat's what i'm going with atm09:43
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RST38hStskeeps: Usually you need a symbolic link for that09:49
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defraggeris it possible to use | in xterm on maemo?10:46
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defraggerweird trick, linux phone without |10:46
sulliwanSym button10:47
Duckboot^ what he said10:47
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defraggerSym what?10:47
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sulliwantop left corner of the keyboard :P10:47
defraggeryeah i know where it is located10:48
sulliwanblue arrow -> sym10:48
defraggerbut that wont print pipe10:48
fralsfn ctrl to get the popup10:48
sulliwanyou get an onscreen keyboard with symbols10:48
defraggerahh i see10:48
defraggerhmm doesnt do anything10:50
MohammadAG51click it twice10:50
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timeless_mbpdefragger:  if you install the right keymap you can use blue-EUR to get PIPE10:51
timeless_mbpfor me the hebrew keylayout breaks the hkb like that, very handy :)10:51
defraggersym does nothing for me, do i have to enable something before i can use Sym?10:52
stondapress the blue arrow10:52
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stondathen try pressing the sym button10:52
timeless_mbpsym isn't a button on its own10:52
timeless_mbpyou need to trigger blue first10:52
defraggeryeah, i know how to reach the blue items on keyboard10:52
timeless_mbptry blue-EUR10:52
timeless_mbpit's possible your keyboard is broken as mine is :)10:53
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defraggerhehe nope it prints the euro symbol10:53
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harniris there a way to set snooze time for less than 5 minutes?10:54
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timeless_mbpset a new alarm?10:55
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defraggeris there any additional application needet for that Sym key?11:19
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DuckbootMmmmm - the joy of a QA-check-friday - On SysAdmin-day...11:30
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defraggerwhich application is needet for the virtual keyboard?11:50
jacekowskiit's in settings11:51
defraggerand it should be shown when i press sym in xterm right?11:51
Duckbootdefragger: Yep11:52
Duckbootdefragger: But remember - Sym ain't a 1 button press11:52
defraggeryeah blue arrow and sym key11:52
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D-Iivil_WorkDoes someone know how changing backgrounds is handled in fremantle?12:11
D-Iivil_WorkI mean what is the application that does the changing and can it be launched from terminal?12:12
D-Iivil_WorkJust wondering since changing active theme is done by giving commands to /usr/bin/personalisation12:12
chem|stnothing in the wiki?12:14
chem|stsomething has to trigger a reload so I guess its another /usr/bin/personalisation command (but only guessing)12:15
D-Iivil_Workchem|st, couldn't find anything. Maybe I don't know the right keywords to search for.12:15
psycho_oreosgconftool I believe12:15
D-Iivil_Workchem|st, and personalisation seems only to affect on theme, not backgrounds.12:16
psycho_oreosthere was a hack to allow up to 9 homescreens on n900 and the author who made the hack had a detailed description of various things including the changing of the background12:16
chem|stpsycho_oreos: gconf is a config storage system nothing triggering12:16
chem|stsetting up the right folders and files in gconf is no magic12:17
chem|stthe path to the 4 bg are stored where?12:17
D-Iivil_WorkRight now I'm doing the background changing by overwriting images under ~/.backgrounds -folder, but that's not the right way to do it.12:17
chem|stto lazy atm12:18
jacekowskias far as i remember12:18
jacekowskiyou can watch for gconf changes12:18
D-Iivil_WorkThe in-built background changer does something else than just copies images to that folder.12:18
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jacekowskiD-Iivil_Work: built-in12:18
jacekowskiread the source code12:19
jacekowskiit's all there12:19
D-Iivil_Workjacekowski, source code of what?12:19
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psycho_oreosgconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/5/bg-image -t string /home/user/MyDocs/.images/image.jpg12:21
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D-Iivil_Workpsycho_oreos, thanks. Where did you took that?12:22
D-Iivil_Workjacekowski, didn't know hildon-desktop is open source12:22
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psycho_oreosD-Iivil_Work, <--- same info off the guy who hacked up for 9 homescreens on n900, dunno if that will work on normal n900 :)12:23
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* crashanddie salutes the crowd12:24
crashanddieHowzit going, furballs?12:24
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chem|stcrashanddie: how do you know that name!?!?!??%$§"!12:31
chem|stgut und dir?12:32
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crashanddiesehr gut, danke12:34
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defraggerwhen you install scim you will break your virtual keyboard :D12:34
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crashanddiechem|st: wo wohnst du?12:40
crashanddiechem|st: wo ist das?12:43
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chem|stmannheim links12:43
crashanddiein Deutschland erwarte ich.12:44
chem|stganz im westen kurz vor saarland12:44
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crashanddieEntschuldigung fur mein schlechtes Deutsch... Ich habe kein Deutsch gesprochen in eine sehr lange Zeit.12:46
chem|stkein thema12:46
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chem|stund der hannesw kommt aus tirol12:46
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hanneswchem|st kennen wir uns?12:47
chem|stwhere are you from crashanddie12:47
chem|sthannesw: nope12:47
crashanddieAber lardman hat ein sehr gutes Niveau! Haben sie jemals mit ihm gesprochen?12:47
chem|staber nen landsmann riech ich auf 1000km gegen den wind...12:47
hanneswkomme genauer gesagt aus südtirol12:48
crashanddiechem|st: you bastard!12:48
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crashanddieDon't say that about lardy :P12:48
chem|stcrashanddie: landsmann means citizen12:48
crashanddieoh, crap. I misread that for lardman :P12:48
chem|stno it doesnt but thats the word that came to my mind wierd12:48
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crashanddieI live in France at the moment... Spent some time in London and Australia, chem|st12:49
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chem|stfellow countryman12:49
chem|stwhere in france?12:49
crashanddieI read that as "I can smell lardman from a thousand miles, even if the wind blows in the other direction"12:49
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crashanddieWhich was mildly insulting.12:50
crashanddiesouth of France12:50
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chem|stprovence or the other side?12:51
crashanddiemore south than the provence12:53
crashanddieabout 50km from Spain, 15km from the mediteranean12:53
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crashanddieJo no soc catala, pero Quim Gil es sens dubte!12:54
crashanddiePero ell ve des de l'altre costat de la frontera.12:55
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MohammadAG51This is an english only channel, english or i'll rape your ass12:56
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crashanddieGo ahead :)12:58
crashanddiePM in 3... 2... 1...12:58
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timeless_mbpcrashanddie:  hey, looks like i get to officially work on smart cards next week13:01
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crashanddietimeless_mbp: sweet :)13:03
timeless_mbpi could start today, but i think i need to spend the day getting everything set up13:04
* timeless_mbp pokes qt13:04
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MohammadAG51<crashanddie> PM in 3... 2... 1...13:12
MohammadAG51you didn't get one, haha :P13:12
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crashanddieDid too13:15
crashanddie<MohammadAG51> you bastard!13:16
Duckbootcrashanddie: Screenshot or it didn't happen ;-P13:17
crashanddieI'm using screen, no screenshot available13:18
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crashanddiebut no, indeed, I didn't get a PM13:20
crashanddieprobably because MohammadAG51 was jerking off as he was the center of attention again :P13:21
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crashanddiedamn, rendering a 100mpix image wasn't such a good idea, after all13:24
MohammadAG51100mpix porn?13:24
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crashanddieif you're into castles, it can be porn13:25
D-Iivil_Workcrashanddie, you're gonna print out a 1:1 sized image of castle?13:26
D-Iivil_Workwith 180dpi resolution? :D13:26
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rmrfchikzoomed one13:26
crashanddieI said rendering, not printing.13:26
D-Iivil_Workcrashanddie, first you render the image, then send it out for printing.13:26
rmrfchikthen burned13:27
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D-Iivil_Workcrashanddie, that's the only situation where I think you would need a 100mpix bitmap image :P13:27
crashanddiewell, yesterday I took over a 100 pics of a castle13:27
crashanddieI'm now building a composite13:27
crashanddieJust want to get a nice level of detail13:28
crashanddiethough the barrel distortion is quite bad13:28
nomiscrashanddie: hugin to the rescue!13:28
crashanddienha, autostitch ftw13:28
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crashanddie(that being said, I'm not actually rendering it on the N900 :P thank god)13:29
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* crashanddie sings a song to his mbp "Swap baby swap, you know you liiiike it... Swap it baby swap!"13:32
timeless_mbpmy mac is trying to tell me to get more ram13:33
timeless_mbpand to get the guys who "fixed" the display to fix the connection to the display :(13:34
crashanddieif only safari could use less than 700MB of ram13:34
timeless_mbpadium is using 600mb here13:34
timeless_mbpsafari with all of 2 windows (no extra tabs) is using 250mb13:34
timeless_mbpquicksilver is using 165mb13:34
* rmrfchik is looking for good email reader for maemo.13:35
timeless_mbpnote that i normally try to avoid safari, it's slow, painful, and does a good job of not doing what i want ™13:35
timeless_mbprmrfchik: gmail in the browser13:35
crashanddiegmail in opera13:35
timeless_mbpcrashanddie:  did you install the latest os update?13:35
crashanddietimeless_mbp: nope13:35
timeless_mbpok, "gmail in any browser"13:35
rmrfchiktimeless_mbp: I have accounts not in google13:35
rmrfchiktimeless_mbp: work account is one of them13:36
timeless_mbprmrfchik: google can fix that :)13:36
timeless_mbpfor work, MfE is pretty good13:36
timeless_mbpin 1.2 it includes calendaring13:36
timeless_mbpnot perfect, but not bad for a simple mail client13:36
rmrfchikno expose work mail to internetz13:36
timeless_mbpyeah yeah13:36
timeless_mbpstupid corporate policies, we all die by them13:36
* rmrfchik want to save email text or select it somehow13:36
timeless_mbphold shift?13:37
timeless_mbpyep, just hold shift and start dragging13:37
timeless_mbpthat'll let you select text13:37
crashanddieDocScrutinizer51: what'd'you do to infobot again?13:37
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timeless_mbpheh, you can't safe email messages13:38
rmrfchiktimeless_mbp: thanks. good tip13:38
timeless_mbprmrfchik: please file a bug in about that13:38
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timeless_mbpit's obviously not something people thought about13:38
crashanddieMohammadAG51 & DocScrutinizer51: are your nicknames so because you both come from the same area?13:38
rmrfchikat least I can ctr-c that13:38
timeless_mbpbut if you put it on their radar as a customer, they might think abotu it13:38
rmrfchiktimeless_mbp: well. I'm too sceptic about fixing bugs in maemo :(13:38
rmrfchikbut sure I will fire13:39
rmrfchikbut sure I will file13:39
timeless_mbpplease understand. filing bugs is for the future13:39
crashanddie"fire at will on bugs"13:39
timeless_mbpthe odds of something being fixed for maemo5 are of course terrible13:39
rmrfchikcrashanddie: ;)13:39
timeless_mbpbut they could be fixed in .next13:39
timeless_mbpModest is open source though13:39
jacekowskioh, really?13:39
rmrfchikAhh.. no, I don't care in Nokia products anymore. N900 is last13:39
timeless_mbpso if you want it in Maemo, you can just check out the source, write the code, submit the patch13:39
timeless_mbpjacekowski:  really13:39
jacekowskii was thinking that modest was closed13:39
crashanddieof course not13:40
jacekowskithat's nice13:40
timeless_mbpthat is in the middle of moving to, but rsync isn't fast for gb's of data :)13:40
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timeless_mbpkinda sucks that i can't just snap my fingers and move 10gb of data in 1s :(13:41
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lcuktimeless, usb key can fit between finger and thumb and can potentially fly quite far13:46
keriothe question is: move *where*?13:47
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DuckbootDon't ever underestimate the bandwidth of a Taxi loaded with USB-sticks.13:47
keriobecause throwing a 1tb hd is not that hard, but it won't fly a long distance13:47
Duckbootkerio: Plate by plate then?13:48
DuckbootSpin'em up - Send'em off13:48
kerioyou spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round13:50
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DuckbootNow - off to a weekend filled with Lego Universe. Got my Beta Key the other day.13:51
crashanddietimeless: the day you'll be able to do that, you'll be saying "kinda sucks that I can't just snap my fingers and move 10tb of data in 1s :("13:52
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Duckbootkorhojoa: I'm really looking forward to it - Lego MMO should be pretty awesome.13:54
korhojoai mean, who doesn't think that13:54
korhojoa"damn, i'm all out of yellow 4x1... /msg #trade WTB Y4X1!13:54
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markinfois it possible to show hidden files in filemanager?14:07
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SpeedEvilmarkinfo: don't think so. Look at 'cuteexplorer' from extras14:45
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BCMMcan one install fcam and wirelesshotspot on the same n900?15:01
keriorecompile the libraries for the kernel-power15:02
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BCMMmobilehotspot, rather15:06
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daernihello.  i run mobile hotspot wothout encrypt on n900 but the linux laptop gets no dhcp15:15
daernii installed the suggested mobilehotspot kernel also.  does anyone here have a suggestion15:15
BCMMi am having difficulting installing kernel-power15:17
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BCMMi;m running the uninstall app that comes with it, but it says "Rrror during deinstallation: Could not install Nokia kernel.15:18
BCMM^Error, rather15:18
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crashanddiedaerni: DHCP is a bonus, you should get it work by correctly configuring the laptop15:22
crashanddiedaerni: if you don't (even when configuring the network correctly, there is no connection), then there is a forwarding issue15:23
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daernithank you.  should i be aple to ping n900 wlan0 from a client?15:27
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BCMM doesn't seem to be workign right either15:28
daerniok it works from cellphone15:30
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daerninow why is standard linux unable to find hotspot.. probably problem with adhoc mode15:34
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daerniis this channel really this quiet?15:49
MohammadAG51recently yes15:49
* MohammadAG51 starts a discussion15:49
E0xno more pr1.2 ask15:49
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E0xthat is why15:49
MohammadAG51can i install windows 8 on my N900?15:49
timelessit gets louder when some of us are around15:49
E0xMohammadAG51: only bill gate can15:49
timelesswe don't read tea leaves, stop asking!15:50
MohammadAG51E0x, so bill gates is chuck norris?15:50
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timelessno, but he can buy him :)15:50
daernithe amount of apps now is impressive15:50
SwedeMikedo we know if they're going to be any major update after 1.2 +15:50
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timelessswedemike: define major15:50
E0xMohammadAG51: maybe , or a ninja15:50
timelessthere's an update which people in this channel have been working on15:51
daernido any of you have a script to connect to mobile hotspot?15:51
timelessi have no idea what the schedule is, but it should include a newer ver of Qt15:51
SwedeMiketimeless: well, with new features like integrated msn (like skype is), 1.1 -> 1.2 had quite a lot of new features, I consider that "major"15:51
timeless1.2 included a new ver of Qt15:51
timelessif you think of that as sufficient requirements, then the next update will probably also be major15:52
E0xtalking about bug , what do you guys think about this: the 2 button in the phone app ( select contact and Dialling pad ) will not better if they stay fixed when you scroll down the call history ?15:52
timelessif you don't think that's sufficient, i suspect you'll be disappointed15:52
keriointegrated msn?15:52
drizztbsdwhy nokia does not allow to install an ovi app with apt-get?15:52
timelessdrizztbsd: to prevent people from giving away the repository?15:52
timelessin debian, there's nothing wrong w/ mirroring a repository15:53
timelessin a store, that's bad for business15:53
drizztbsdbtw I had to install aptitude to do it :)15:53
kerioand that's why ovi fails15:53
jacekowskiMohammadAG51: you can with qemu15:53
drizztbsdsince the .install files does not want to work15:53
jacekowskiMohammadAG51: but it will be slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow15:53
SwedeMikehm, the pecan-plugin seems to integrate things nicely though, showed up a lot of "no name" people in my contact list though :P15:54
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kerioqemu rulz15:55
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markinfois there some CPU usage graph app? (for diablo)15:56
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mobile_telephonecan maps find everything that google maps can?15:59
mobile_telephoneor does the maemo program get addresses etc from another source?16:00
MohammadAG51another source16:00
mirfgoogle maps is better16:01
SpeedEvilgoogle is not most accurate in all areas.16:01
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mirfno but it has more information16:01
mirfrather depends what you need it for16:01
mirfgeneral navigating nokia maps is better16:02
timelessalways drive carefully and pay attention to the local signage16:02
mirfbut for finding out what is around you , can't beat google16:02
mirfgoogle even has bus stops on it :)16:02
timelessdon't assume that just because the computer tells you there's a bridge , that there's a bridge you're allowed to taked16:02
SpeedEviltimeless: Don't be silly. Get with the new technology.16:02
mobile_telephoneso basically use the browser and go to google maps16:02
* SpeedEvil drives confidently over a cliff.16:02
timelessmobile: get Maep16:02
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mobile_telephonegot it16:03
mirfthere is a plugin calle maemo geo locatino or something16:03
timelessor Mappero16:03
mirfthat will allow google maps to interface with gps16:03
timelessmirf: that's integrated in 1.216:03
mobile_telephonei need directiona16:03
mirfis it :D16:03
timelesssadly i liked the extension version better, but oh well16:03
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mobile_telephoneand it seems like google maps is the only one where you could, for example, enter the name of a popular store and it shows you the closest ones16:03
mobile_telephoneso do you guys just use the browser for that?16:04
jacekowskibtw. is search in maps working?16:04
jacekowskibecause i never saw it work16:04
jacekowskiand i'm not sure if it's me or it's just broken16:04
Toxaris_on_mobilhello. question, anyone know why I cant open MMS in FMMS? strange16:04
timelessmobile: yeah, i use
daernimirf, we should get some google maps client16:04
mobile_telephonemaps feels so slow,, esp to update location16:04
jacekowskii mean, it's not working at all and all i get is message that search is unavaliable16:04
mirfI wholly agree16:04
mirfor a plugin for maemo maps..16:05
mirfbut i dunno how viable that is16:05
E0xjacekowski: ovi map ?16:05
mobile_telephonecheck out viking16:05
daernior make ovi maps cheat and use google features16:05
timelessjacekowski: what country?16:05
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mobile_telephonethat is the only OSS app that had it working i think16:05
E0xjacekowski: i use mappero only16:05
mobile_telephonegoogle told them to stop16:05
E0xovi map don't have my contry data16:05
E0xmobile_telephone: to who ?16:06
E0xmappero ?16:06
BCMMmappero can use google16:07
mobile_telephoneno viking16:07
mobile_telephoneread above16:08
Toxaris_on_mobilhello. question, anyone know why I cant open MMS in FMMS? strange16:08
mobile_telephonemappero can find everything google maps can?16:08
timelessi just zoomed my n900 over london16:08
timelessand searched for 'Big Ben"16:08
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timelessit took me to "Houses Of Parliament"16:08
timelesswhich i'm told is correct16:08
E0xi not sure how mappero work ( i was looking the doc but never find it )16:08
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timelessthis is w/ Ovi Maps (the integrated app)16:09
E0xbut the search only get cordenates16:09
SpeedEviltimeless: yes - big ben is the bell, not the cock tower. It's the bell in the clock tower in the houses of parliament.16:09
timelessspeedevil: i sure hope parliament wouldn't have a Cock tower =b16:10
timelessbut, my point is that "Search works"16:10
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SpeedEviltimeless: Ooops. :)16:10
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daernimirf, share your music16:13
mirfhow you knwo I'm lsitening?16:13
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SpeedEvilnp: Florence And the Machine - My Boy Builds Coffins16:15
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sig^what's libhildonwidgets? It seems many other people in the nets have problems with it but no one knows where to get it from...16:17
timelesstry the sdk?16:18
sig^I'm trying to get cgoban for N90016:18
albancit would be good to play go on the network16:18
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BCMMsig^: that would rock16:18
SpeedEvil'Not enough space in application install memory' - this is /home/opt isn't it?16:19
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timelessi think libhildonwidgets is maemo3 or older16:21
SpeedEvilah - maybe it's that it'd take it below 95%16:21
timelessmake hildon variant compatible with maemo4 ( libhildon instead of libhildonwidgets )16:22
timeless/home/opt isn't something that HAM knows about16:23
timelessso when it reports errors, it's almost certainly talking about /16:23
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mirfdaerni: what you on abuot?16:40
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mirfoops, pm16:40
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SpeedEvilPowertop shows lots of interrupts, CPU at 600MHz 50% of the time, and nothing on top16:48
lmouraX-Fade: hi neils, could you promote python-all (-maemo4) to extras?16:48
lmoura"python" from the same source package was promoted automatically and broke python-all, as it depends on the exact version of python16:48
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SpeedEvilIRQ#    | Activity   | Type           | Name16:54
SpeedEvil     37 |        639 |           INTC | gp16:54
SpeedEvilanyone any idea wat this IRQ is?16:54
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mortinilspci -vv16:55
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StskeepsSpeedEvil: accelerometer? gpio?16:55
SpeedEvilI should complete the hw docs with the interrupts.16:56
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alteregoI'd guess gpio ..16:58
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SpeedEvilyeah - but why is it interrupting16:59
* DocScrutinizer considers a eternal ban for >>InfoBot ~SH-HelpBo * The #SpeedyHosts IRC Help Bot16:59
SpeedEvilOkaaay - it's still doing it after a reboot.17:00
SpeedEvilSo it must be one of the 800 packages I've installed.17:00
jacekowskiwhat's wrong with interrupting interrupts17:01
jacekowskiinterrupts are supposed to interrupt17:01
DocScrutinizeridiot sh-helbo trying to use nick infobot, and locks the nick for 60min, after 30s of failing to register17:01
SpeedEvilBut not enough to keep the CPU at C0 for 14% of the time17:01
jacekowskiDocScrutinizer: you can release lock17:01
jacekowski /msg nickserv release nick password17:01
DocScrutinizerI can't17:01
DocScrutinizerI don't know the <password> as it's not my account17:02
DocScrutinizer/ns info infobot17:02
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jacekowskithen we're in shit17:03
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jacekowski16:05 [freenode] -!- InfoBot []17:05
jacekowski16:05 [freenode] -!-  was      : The #SpeedyHosts IRC Help Bot17:05
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Khertan_Can i ask to someone with maemo extra upload to push py2deb to extras ?17:07
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jacekowskipackage has to be promoted there17:07
Khertan_yes i mean extras-devel :)17:07
Khertan_I see some things in maemo wiki that let me think user didn't bother to use my repository17:08
jacekowskii could but i don't like python17:08
Khertan_1 march 2010 Py2deb is broken.  It creates an incorrect bug tracker link for your package in extras.   You can solve the bugtracker issue easily by editing /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ line 382 changing it from: bugtrackerstr = "XSBC-Bugtracker: %s" % ( self.xsbc_bugtracker ) into bugtrackerstr = self.xsbc_bugtracker17:08
Khertan_it s just false .. it s just that new version isn't in maemo extras-*17:09
chem|stKhertan_: that is fine so no python-blurb gets promoted to extras17:09
Khertan_chem|st: haha17:09
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Khertan_chem|st: haha17:09
Khertan_chem|st: remove python and you can remove all extras repository too17:10
Khertan_chem|st: most app are done in py17:10
jacekowskihow do you boot phone with flasher with non stock kernel17:10
jacekowskiwithouf lashing17:10
Khertan_in python : import flasher_without_flashing17:11
chem|stKhertan_: ? I try to not install stuff I want to use frequently to be python17:11
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Khertan_chem|st: oh so you are just using xterm ?17:11
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chem|stKhertan_: yes17:12
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Khertan_it s can be done with python too :)17:12
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chem|stand irssi and mutt and screen and mocp and top and htop17:12
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chem|stKhertan_: just because I am able to do anything with css people do with jscript doesn't mean it is good to do so!17:13
Khertan_chem|st: exactly17:13
chem|stnowadays you could do it that way as it doesn't matter if a website is several MB but go 8 years back in time...17:14
SpeedEvilmethod call sender=:1.581 -> dest=org.freedesktop.DBus serial=1 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=Hello17:16
SpeedEvilsignal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=(null destination) serial=660 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameOwnerChanged17:16
SpeedEvilny thoughts hat this might be?17:17
SpeedEvilsomething is calling it once a second17:17
SpeedEvilthe sender varies - indeed increments.17:17
SpeedEvilhow can I tell what process is doing this?17:17
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Dieterbei notice when i upload pictures to FB using the built-in image sharing service on the n900, the image is rotated in the wrong way. it looks as if FB strips the exif tags (they are gone when i view the image in the browser), but does not apply the rotation.  is this a problem with FB or is the maemo uploader supposed to rotate the images before submitting?17:24
DocScrutinizerwhich - on a sidenote - has been exactly what I asked some 20..40h ago: how to find process from sender?17:24
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SpeedEvilDocScrutinizer: It's quite annoying.17:25
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DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: system or session?17:25
SpeedEvilDocScrutinizer: _everything_ wakes up to listen to this message and work out 'it's not for me'17:25
DocScrutinizernot that I could tell anything from it17:25
rlinfati Hi, someone upload a libsdl-mixer1.2 to extras-devel, and it's in conflict with the nokia version...
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SpeedEvilI get a different message once a second on system and session17:27
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Dieterbehmm. got a bug for my issue
povbotBug 9511: Images taken with N900, after rotated, can't be uploaded in the correct orientation using Facebook sharing service17:28
chem|stoh as I hear mixer... how do I set the earpiece volume control to use a higher maximum?17:28
chem|stDieterbe: seems like fb uploads everything in landscape even if rotated from the camera while captured17:29
chem|stthink that is an exif problem of FB17:30
zeltakmorning guys :) are there alternatives to the default terminal?17:30
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chem|stzeltak: you mean something else than busybox?17:30
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chem|stor the shell?17:30
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DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: lsfsor17:31
SpeedEvilDocScrutinizer: ?17:31
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: ...should know how to get process from sender17:32
SpeedEvilnot found17:32
DocScrutinizerit's python iirc17:32
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n900-spacehi guys17:35
n900-spacequick question17:35
n900-spaceneed to completely wash anything on n900, and flash it with pr1.2.17:36
DocScrutinizeruse mild detergent17:36
ToJa92[n900-space]: Well to wash it put it in a washing machine ;)17:36
SpeedEvilTake the battery out first though.17:36
SpeedEvilAnd put it on boil wash.17:36
SpeedEvilRemember to use colour-safe powder, or you risk fading the screen.17:37
SpeedEvilI forgot, and now everything is pastel.17:37
zeltakchem|st: i meant the actuall terminal :) was wondering if there were alternatives17:38
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jacekowskiwash it and flash it17:39
DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: pid = dbusi.GetConnectionUnixProcessID(s)17:40
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DocScrutinizergoogle for lsfsor17:40
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n900-space_hi again17:41
n900-space_got dc17:41
n900-space_as i was saying17:41
n900-space_wash everything from n900 :)17:41
markinfoI have installed opera browser. But all link from Emails are still through original Browser opened. How to change it?17:41
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n900-space_becuz there are lots of things not working on my n900 since i installed pr1.217:42
zeltakalso i stuipdly transferd my .bashrc from my nix machine over to /home/usr and overan the default one...sice then i cant get my aliases to work (using bash of course) do you guy use aliases without a problem?17:42
jacekowskin900-space_: use colour safe bleach17:42
n900-space_for example, the photos are not listed in the photos17:42
n900-space_plus songs and videos are not listed17:42
jacekowskiflash it17:42
n900-space_the "browserd" starts running randomly takes all the processing and drains battery17:43
jacekowskifiasco + emmc flash17:43
n900-space_i have to 'kill' it from console17:43
jacekowskibrowserd is supposed to run all the time17:43
n900-space_i want to complete remove/format everything17:43
n900-space_start from scratch17:43
* DocScrutinizer sighs... no infobot17:43
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infobot_i heard flashing is
n900-space_yea it is supposed to but its not supposed to take 99% of the processing when no browser window is open17:43
infobot_Since Fri Jul 30 13:05:31 2010, there have been 0 modifications, 1 question, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 1h 39m 19s this session, and currently reference 117188 factoids.  I'm using about 15728 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 23.12/2.15 child 0/0.0117:44
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keriobrowserd also does maps and conversations17:46
kerioso yeah17:46
infobot_thanks, DocScrutinizer17:46
jacekowski~slap DocScrutinizer17:46
* infobot_ slaps DocScrutinizer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!17:46
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n900-space_jacekowski: its says if i have a production unit, i shud not format emmc, and contact nokia17:48
n900-space_what do you suggest jacekowski17:48
jacekowskiformat != flash17:48
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chem|stzeltak: nope afaik17:48
n900-space_sorry i meant flash jacekowski , used the wrong word17:49
n900-space_jacekowski: check: "Flasing the eMMC resets the MyDocs folder contents to factory settings. N900 users don't need to reflash the eMMC of their device. If you are reading this it's probably because you got a pre-production device e.g. in the Maemo Summit. If you have a sales unit and you have problems with your eMMC you should contact Nokia Care."17:49
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jacekowskin900-space_: just flash it17:49
zeltakthx chem|st17:50
jacekowskin900-space_: if you want to wipe it completly17:50
n900-space_yes wipe it completely17:50
jacekowskin900-space_: emmc and fiasco at the sime time17:50
jacekowskin900-space_: don't reboot in between17:50
n900-space_flash with the fiascogen17:50
keriowithout rebooting17:50
n900-space_yea , as the wiki says17:50
jacekowskiwithout fiascogen17:50
jacekowskijust with normal maemo flasher from tablet-dev website17:50
jacekowskiwith latest fiasco and emmc images17:51
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DocScrutinizerinfobot_: botsnack17:52
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DocScrutinizerinfobot: botsnack17:52
infobot_DocScrutinizer: thanks17:52
DocScrutinizerapt: botsnack17:53
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infobot_thanks, crashanddie17:54
kerioDocScrutinizer: botsnack17:54
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pigeondoes anyone know the name of the foursquare n900 client which is not BarrioSquare?17:56
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DocScrutinizersorry, no idea at all what foursquare really is18:01
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DocScrutinizerjust testing a theory that your question can be translated 1:1 to a google query18:02
pigeoni forgot about the - syntax18:03
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Dieterbechem|st: yeah i think FB just plainly ignores the exif tags18:18
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smharhow to copy text or link to clipboard in Firefox in N900?18:22
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fralsuhm whats the version string of pr1.2?18:24
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ToJa92[frals]: I'd check it for you but for some reason the about dialog shows <unknown> version.18:25
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Stskeepsfrals: i'm not retarded but he deserves a second chance.. some people only understand violence18:31
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fralsyeah, i just noticed the ip myself :p18:31
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Stskeepsfrals: and mind-numbing conversation / smalltalk is horrible to trolls who think they're hiding18:34
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Stskeepsi mean, we tamed luke-jr eventually :p18:35
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smharI want to download Nokia Qt SDK for debian, but is it really 557mb download?!18:40
Stskeepshow big is visual studio again?18:40
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achipasmhar: if you don't need all components, go for the online version, it will download only what you select18:40
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jogahmm... what's this now... I received an sms with a timestamp of 18:17, and then replied immediately, but my response is timestamped 18:0818:42
fralsphone time vs smsc time18:42
DocScrutinizerhmm, let's see if in ~30 min infobot reclaims her primary nick18:43
jogacould smsc be so off?18:43
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infobot_thanks, kerio18:44
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slonopotamusjoga: incoming time is not your phone time.18:44
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jogaslonopotamus, ok. to me it would seem more reasonable to show the time the phone received it but I guess it wouldn't be good in all cases18:45
kerioit would make sense18:45
keriothat's why it's not done that way18:45
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slonopotamusjoga: there is a bugreport about that18:45
jogaI'm off to sauna now :)18:45
slonopotamusactually sometimes you want to know both send and receive times.18:45
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toggles_wuser/FOO !18:49
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jacekowskiStskeeps: vs expres is about 150M18:51
jacekowskiStskeeps: full visual studio is about 30018:51
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timelessfwiw, will be live sometime sunday19:10
timelessthe sources copied over today, but the index is still moving19:10
timeless(it's currently available from if people are in a hurry)19:11
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DrIDKhello! WHERE do I need to copy my icon to use it for my hildon application? I m calling icon from my desktop file. But I do not know where to copy it19:20
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fragmentDrIDK: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/19:23
keriowhy do i sometimes get applications with no icon, especially the freshly installed ones?19:24
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keriois there a way to force a reload of the icons without rebooting?19:24
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DrIDKfragment: so it must be an svg icon ??19:25
fragmentDrIDK: png19:25
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fragmentkerio: dunno. originally there was some kind of icon cache but it was removed and the icons still act like there was a cache..19:25
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DrIDKfragment: witch size ?19:25
fragmentDrIDK: the desktop icon is 64x64. app manager icon is 48x4819:26
DrIDKfragment: but there is one folder...19:26
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fragmentDrIDK: huh?:)19:27
DrIDKfragment: I have an icon 64x64.  called : vlc-remote.png..        You said me to copy in : /scalable/hildon...      Is it for desktop icon or app manager icon ?19:28
fragmentDrIDK: desktop icon.19:28
fragmentDrIDK: the app manager icon is put into the .deb control file19:29
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fragmentDrIDK: but if you are not making an installer package, then you don't have to worry about the app manager icon19:30
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DrIDKfragment: I m making a package using qtcreator219:31
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DrIDKfragment: so, I m going to wait the community help! Let's go to upload my first version19:31
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Stskeepsinfobot=docscrutinizer? i knew it!19:42
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DocScrutinizeridiotic joke of some ibot sysop19:43
DocScrutinizerStskeeps: please kickban on #meego19:43
Stskeepskickban the infobot? :P19:43
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DocScrutinizerkickban DocScrutinizer_19:43
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alteregoAnyone come across a good way to do a screencast19:47
alteregoximagesrc doesn't seem to like me ..19:47
alteregoAnd x11vnc is way too laggy19:47
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MohammadAG51get a 800x480 camcorder, solder it onto something and make it record the N900's screen19:48
alteregoNot good enough.19:48
MohammadAG51tv out19:48
* alterego looks for prices of video digitizer dongles.19:48
ShadowJKor get something with composite input ;-D19:48
alteregoYeah, I Was jus thinking that.19:49
MohammadAG51on a related note19:49
alteregoStill, it'd be nice if ximagesrc would work nice ..19:49
MohammadAG51why does vnc suck more than closed logmein crap19:49
Stskeepsalterego: didn't load applet have a screencast thing?19:49
ShadowJKI haven't found any screencast software that works with decent fps on my quad core PC, so I'm not that hopeful for something that'd work on 600MHz ARM..19:49
MohammadAG51Stskeeps, too slow tbh19:49
alteregoThere's some really annoying aspects to gstreamer on the N90019:49
alteregolike the alpha plugin doesn't work.19:50
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alteregoI just wannt show case my app base code.19:50
MohammadAG51record the N900?19:51
FIQi set my computer to 800x600 just to test and it ran pretty fine then19:51
alteregoI've used recordmydesktop for recording specific windows fine ...19:52
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DrIDKdo Someone want to package my application :;a=summary  ?19:56
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alteregoHrm, maybe an SVG would be good for rendering my track log ..20:04
alteregoNice for saaving too ..20:04
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Arkenoiwhat is recommended jabber conferences client for maemo?20:05
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LuciusMareHello, I installed fmms, but it didn't work for me, so i removed it again, but the internet connection called "mms" still stays there, and it can't be removed - how to remove it.20:12
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tripzeroLuciusMare, if you ignore it, it's as good as gone ;)20:14
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tripzeroj/k, i'm really not sure how to remove it20:15
LuciusMareI ignore it, but my autoconnection doesn't :/20:15
ShadowJKcan you delete it in internet connections?20:15
tripzeroyou can also make it not autoconnect in the same settings20:15
LuciusMarenope, it can't be removed this way, it's button is gray20:15
TomaszDStskeeps, ordered a used 1920x1200 15,4 inch screen :)20:16
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LuciusMaretripzero: oh, can I? I can't find it20:17
luke-jrStskeeps: but I was never a troll ☺20:19
luke-jrStskeeps: trolls don't have a point to make20:19
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LuciusMareHm, maybe I could delete it manually... Does the connections app store it's configuration in a file somewhere?20:22
StskeepsTomaszD: to plug into the joggler? ;p20:22
Stskeepsluke-jr:  ;p20:22
TomaszDreplace my laptop screen20:22
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luke-jrStskeeps: also, I'm not exactly happy with the N810 situation any more now than I was then :P20:24
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luke-jrthe only key changes to me recently IMO are 1) Nokia sent me a N900, and I can't whine about what I never paid for; 2) I see the N900 has significant value to others who might not want the same thing I do :p20:24
luke-jrpoint 2 is why I've actually been able to suggest it to people I know20:25
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h4xordoodheya :)20:38
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h4xordoodfrom past 2 days i am trying repair corrupted 16gb micro sd20:39
h4xordoodcomputer doesnt reads it20:39
h4xordoodwhen i connect n900 with this card inserted it says its 30.6 mb20:39
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h4xordoodtry to format it says cannot format20:40
h4xordoodshould i through this card now ?20:40
LuciusMareDoes the connections app store it's configuration in a file somewhere?20:41
LuciusMareh4xordood: are you using linux or windows?20:42
crashanddieh4xordood: fdisk it, trash the partition, create new one, format20:42
h4xordoodi have both :)20:42
h4xordoodcomputer doesnt read that card20:43
h4xordoodonly n900 can read it20:43
h4xordoodbut not read its contents20:43
h4xordoodn900 shows me /dev/mmcblk120:43
h4xordoodonly this device20:43
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h4xordoodso i can use sfdisk only20:43
LuciusMarewhat does "dmesg|tail" say after connecting it to your linux?20:44
h4xordoodthough this card is 16gb but its says its 30.6 mb20:44
h4xordoodLuciusMare, okay wait i reboot to linux20:44
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h4xordoodLuciusMare: dmesg | tail20:48
h4xordoodmmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card20:48
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tbaarsjust dmesg should work20:49
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tbaarsor mount20:49
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h4xordoodhow ?20:50
h4xordoodmount /dev/mmc /mnt20:50
tbaarsfuser -k20:51
tbaarsor umount -l20:52
tbaarsafter, the dmesg or mount20:52
tbaarsur choice20:52
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LuciusMareh4xordood: no messages regarding "/dev"ices?20:53
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* tbaars Burps20:54
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h4xordoodmmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card20:55
h4xordoodhow can i mount corrupted sd card20:55
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LuciusMareh4xordood: with a hammer20:55
h4xordoodha :D20:55
DocScrutinizeryeah, but did you ever get THAT: [2010-07-30 18:59:50] [Whois] DocScrutinizer_ ist (TimRiker's infobot)20:55
crashanddieh4xordood: what did I tell you?20:55
Mehelp the guy!20:56
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* You are an idiot.20:56
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* Guest75591 I'm not!20:56
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crashanddieplease stop it20:57
crashanddieor you'll be banned20:57
tbaarsOK, sorry20:57
LuciusMarethat was so gentle20:57
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LuciusMareh4xordood: okay, I think that the card might be lost20:57
LuciusMarebut again, no messages in dmesg regarding /dev?20:58
h4xordoodso i should through away now ?20:58
crashanddieh4xordood: I told you what to do20:58
h4xordoodmmcblk0: mmc0:d555 SD032 30.6 MiB20:58
h4xordood mmcblk0: unknown partition table20:58
h4xordoodmmc0: card d555 removed20:58
crashanddieh4xordood: fdisk it, remove the partition, create a new one, format that new partition20:58
h4xordoodmmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card20:58
tbaarsumount -l /dev/mmcblk020:58
h4xordoodcrashanddie: but system is not recongnising20:59
tbaarsmount /dev/mmcblk020:59
crashanddieh4xordood: sure it does20:59
h4xordoodit doesnt show me device20:59
crashanddieh4xordood: ls /dev/mmc*20:59
h4xordoodmount: can't find /dev/mmcblk0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab20:59
DocScrutinizerh4xordood: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/mmcblkX bs=1M count=1800020:59
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DocScrutinizerh4xordood: this will completely erase the card21:00
LuciusMareIt will not21:00
DocScrutinizerthen try to fdisk patition and mkfs format it21:00
LuciusMare/dev/null gives afaik no usable output21:00
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h4xordoodokay i try from phone21:00
LuciusMareunlike /dev/zero21:00
DocScrutinizersorry /dev/zero21:01
JackBeSlowIs there any work on skype video chat working on the n900?21:01
h4xordoodbecause in phones terminal i see /dev/mmcblk121:01
fralsso hmm21:01
LuciusMareJackBeSlow: I have the button right now, but I haven't tried it yet21:01
fralsis anything going to break horribly if i only flash the emmc?21:01
JackBeSlowLast I heard it didn't but I was hoping that would be resolved by now. Google searching brings up only old forum posts.21:01
DocScrutinizerh4xordood: good21:02
DocScrutinizerh4xordood: do it21:02
DocScrutinizerh4xordood: if you get IO errors prior to finishing writing to end of card, then card is broken21:02
JackBeSlowLuciusMare: Would you mind testing it? It's the main thing holding me back from blowing a pay check on an n900.21:02
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cehteh  seen that? nice ..21:03
LuciusMareJackBeSlow: I am now on gprs, I highly doubt it would work21:03
JackBeSlowah, bummer.21:03
JackBeSlowThanks anyway.21:04
cehtehpatent pending .. not so nice21:05
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ShadowJKfrals, yep.21:06
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JackBeSlowWell found an article that says it was added in PR 1.2 so as well as a youtube video of it working. So I am excited.21:07
ShadowJKfrals, on first boot, stuff is moved from rootfs to emmc. If you wipe emmc, that stuff is no longer there21:07
LuciusMareJackBeSlow: well, I have 1.2, so I can confirm it is at least implemented21:08
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ShadowJKIt'll still start, but the lack of fonts and themes is the first thing you'll notice, and then it starts crashing :)21:08
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fralsoh well, noticed flasher still doesnt work on my win7 x64 machine so ill just flash it all at work on monday :P21:08
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h4xordood_i have 16 GB msd but it shows total capacity 30.6 mb21:11
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h4xordood_i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M count=1800021:11
h4xordood_but still it shows 30 mb21:11
johnsqtime to get a new one21:12
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h4xordood_i bought this 2 days back :(21:18
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crashand1ie_then use warranty21:18
Ljrn900(insert rant about BME here)21:18
h4xordood_without waranty21:18
crashand1ie_of course you have warranty21:18
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Ljrn900do I, I wonder?21:18
Ljrn900anyhow, back to my rant....21:19
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Ljrn900apparently BME decided to stop charging my battery a few hours ago21:20
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Ljrn900so now it's like 20%21:20
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ShadowJKIt only does a few retries on failing input source21:21
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h4xordood_okay i get some info21:24
h4xordood_connected n900 on linux it shows on /dev/sdc21:24
crashanddieh4xordood_: then fdisk /dev/sdc21:25
h4xordood_ invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)21:26
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crashanddiethen write it21:27
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crashanddieh4xordood_: do a p first21:27
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crashanddieh4xordood_: and see what kind of table you have21:27
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JackBeSlowAny word on whether Nokia will update the flash player? I'm not asking when, just if it's ever going to happen or if 9.4 is the end.21:28
crashanddieJackBeSlow: when we know about it, you'll know about it21:28
JackBeSlowha, ok.21:28
JackBeSlowJust checking.21:28
h4xordood_Disk /dev/sdc: 32 MB, 32096256 bytes21:29
h4xordood_1 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1011 cylinders21:29
h4xordood_Units = cylinders of 62 * 512 = 31744 bytes21:29
h4xordood_Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes21:29
h4xordood_I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes21:29
h4xordood_Disk identifier: 0x415ffa7021:30
crashanddieh4xordood_: don't paste in here please21:30
h4xordood_if 16 gb then cyliner should be 193621:30
h4xordood_crashanddie: sorry21:30
h4xordood_next time i wont21:30
crashanddiethe partition is correct21:30
crashanddieare you just you didn't get conned?21:30
h4xordood_but its 16gb micro sd21:30
crashanddieWhere did you buy it?21:30
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h4xordood_FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors21:39
h4xordood_now dmesg | tail shows this21:39
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Ljrn900shadowjk it wasn't failing21:41
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DrIDKI was following this tuto :   But  I have always this error :
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DrIDKrgis error : Currently there is no top level Makefile21:46
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DrIDKthis error ( sorry) : "Currently there is no top level Makefile"21:46
DocScrutinizerLjrn900: bme usually doesn't decide to "stop charging". It's more likely it decided to stop working at all21:47
ShadowJKhe left :P21:47
DocScrutinizerLjrn900: try `root; stop bme; start bme`21:47
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* DocScrutinizer too21:47
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* DrIDK is wondering why it's harder to packaging than developping....21:59
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gyerotI can't ping .local domain on my n900; avahi works, I can access my phone using n900.local address, anybody knows how to enable this on the phone?22:07
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psycho_oreosmaybe dns issue22:10
gyerotI've added mdns4_minimal and mdns4 to /etc/nsswitch.conf, but nothing changed22:10
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mgedmingyerot, do you have libnss-mdns installed?22:17
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mgedminI don't think it even exists for maemo522:17
gyerotno, it's not in the repos22:17
gyerot - I think this should solve this...22:18
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DrIDKand what does it mean : gpg: skipped  secret key not available ?22:19
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gyerotand it works! mgedmin, thanks for pointing in the right direction :)22:20
mgedminwhoa, whoa, whoa!22:20
mgedmintell me where you found libnss-mdns!22:20
mgedminapt-cache policy22:20
gyerotyou can get it on this page22:20
gyerotit's from Debian Armel22:21
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mgedminit's not in any repository?22:28
mgedmindamn :(22:28
gyerotI guess it's in Diablo... someone could put it in extras for fremantle22:28
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gyerotit installed cleanly in my PR1.2 and works as intended22:29
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* mgedmin bookmarks for latter investigation22:30
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DrIDK!! please help.....! :( :( !
steinexi just added extras-testing and extras-devel to my sources and enabled apt-pinning so i don't upgrade to unstable versions22:35
steinexafter weeeeeks22:35
steinexso much apps :D22:35
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SpeedEvilssh root@phone22:36
SpeedEvilI should open my eyes more often.22:37
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luke-jrShadowJK: nm, it was23:00
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luke-jrI forgot I took it off charger then on this morning to see battery level -.-23:01
luke-jranyhow, N900 survived over an hour with 0% :p23:01
luke-jr(Offline Mode + killall trackerd)23:01
gyerotanybody knows some nice folder icons for apmefo?23:01
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SpeedEvil ++23:07
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technomikeI am trying to unrar a rar file on my n900. I have installed both Xarchiver and File Roller, each to no success. They say unsupported archive. Any ideas? I have just gone to try 7zip which I am sure I seen the other day in the app manager but its not there now.23:11
SpeedEvil7zips are not rars23:11
SpeedEvilhave you tried unrar?23:12
technomike7zip supports rars23:12
SpeedEvilI'd just install unrar, which works for me23:12
technomikeNope not yet. Good idea haha *smacks head* - The obvious option, I totally forgot to try! :-P23:12
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technomikeAh so you have actually had luck unraring on your n900 with the unrar app?23:13
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SpeedEvilyes - it works fine - unrared several ebooks23:14
technomikethanks alot :)23:14
DrIDK   ( Left : this is me : vlcremotte )     Right ( another qt application..)  All is same expect the last line23:14
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alteregoDrIDK: I don't think you've submitted a clean root23:19
alteregofor your application23:19
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DrIDKalterego: can you show me a "control" file example from debian rep ?23:34
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alteregoThe problem is your rules file not your control file.23:35
nox-which repo is it that has things like less, traceroute, script, p7zip(?), (un)zip?23:37
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SpeedEviltools I think23:37
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nox-thx SpeedEvil ill try23:43
johnsqiih python23:43
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DocScrutinizeranother kind request for some 5 testers to please give  a review and thumb vote :-)23:51
nox-hm do you have a deb line for tools SpeedEvil?23:52
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DocScrutinizerbarisione: could I be right that custom-ringtones breaks vibrator?23:56
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jacekowskihave you seen latest topgear episode with cameron diaz?23:57
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SpeedEviljacekowski: yes23:59
SpeedEvilnox-: yes23:59
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