javispedro | where "system" = dependency of pr-fremantle-blablabla | 00:00 |
X-Fade | javispedro: But then it still doesn't know which fw version it needs. | 00:00 |
X-Fade | javispedro: remember that an ssu only knows about the next version/repository. | 00:00 |
X-Fade | javispedro: So 2 updates down the row, it doesn't know. | 00:00 |
javispedro | which means that the "minimal fw version required" doesn't matter at all | 00:01 |
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javispedro | since all you can do is "upgrade to next one and try again" | 00:01 |
X-Fade | javispedro: Sure, or flash. | 00:01 |
javispedro | touché. | 00:01 |
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wirelessdreamer | MohammadAG: Yes I have the extra codecs packages installed | 00:02 |
javispedro | Xb-Mininal-fw: 1.1.1 (mwahahaha) | 00:02 |
wirelessdreamer | what kind of problems are you seeing? | 00:02 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: besides that, packages are more than able to indicate they support 'younger' versions i think | 00:02 |
X-Fade | And upgrading 5 SSUs or 1 flash, well I would know what to take ;) | 00:02 |
MohammadAG | wirelessdreamer, kk | 00:02 |
MohammadAG | maybe it's too high-res'd | 00:02 |
wirelessdreamer | I just checked the video res and codec with mplayer 640x368 @23 fps xvid/mp3 | 00:03 |
wirelessdreamer | multiple videos with that encoding play perfectly | 00:04 |
javispedro | or add an extra "minimal firmware" section in the source package control file, | 00:04 |
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wirelessdreamer | I still don't have mkv's working though | 00:04 |
javispedro | then the autobuilder uses the adequate sdk to build it | 00:04 |
javispedro | defaulting to 1.0 . | 00:04 |
X-Fade | javispedro: But it needs to be as simple as possible. | 00:04 |
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Luser | SyncA, mmmhh let me try | 00:04 |
X-Fade | If you need sharing-dialog-dev for instance, you need >=pr1.1 | 00:04 |
X-Fade | That would make it really hard for developers. | 00:05 |
javispedro | hm.. | 00:05 |
X-Fade | As specifying build-depends is a nightmare already :) | 00:05 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: maybe build towards the first SDK where a build dependancy is satisfiable? | 00:05 |
Stskeeps | start at pr1.0, then see pr1.1 .. | 00:05 |
X-Fade | But what if you need a specific feature of a lib? | 00:05 |
Stskeeps | build-dep: package-dev (>= version) | 00:06 |
X-Fade | You can't expect a developer to exactly know which sdk he needs? | 00:06 |
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X-Fade | I would rather default to build on the latest and greatest. | 00:06 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:06 |
X-Fade | We don't want to be debian stable with outdated versions. | 00:07 |
javispedro | specially if the shlibdeps are wrong, which means the auto build-depend generator cannot use symbol versions.. | 00:07 |
X-Fade | We get enough crap for that already | 00:07 |
X-Fade | And developers want the latest and greatest anyway. | 00:07 |
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X-Fade | We don't want to hold developers back. | 00:08 |
javispedro | yes, but if most extras packages are going to be not installable EXCEPT in the latest and greatest firmware.. | 00:08 |
X-Fade | And if that orange icon blinks on someones phone, they are going to upgrade anyway. | 00:08 |
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javispedro | then no need to put that much effort in this and just tell outdated users to "upgrade" | 00:08 |
javispedro | "to the nearest ssu / latest FIASCO" | 00:08 |
X-Fade | javispedro: But now it just says, failed to install. | 00:09 |
X-Fade | Or can not install even. | 00:09 |
X-Fade | Which is not what you want to present to end users. | 00:09 |
X-Fade | Everything in extras should install. | 00:09 |
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Stskeeps | there's really no pretty solution that doesn't involve modifying HAM | 00:10 |
xorAxAx | but what if the sdk doesnt have the package version that the pr has? | 00:10 |
Stskeeps | or a special DEBIAN/control field | 00:10 |
Stskeeps | xorAxAx: ah, good one | 00:10 |
xorAxAx | differently said, pr and maemo-version might conflict | 00:10 |
X-Fade | This is in the same category as the opt problem. Ugly, but we need to do something. | 00:10 |
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X-Fade | xorAxAx: There are a lot more firmware versions than you know ;) | 00:11 |
xorAxAx | X-Fade: that as well | 00:11 |
X-Fade | xorAxAx: And Mer would probably be in that list too. | 00:11 |
Stskeeps | that's why i would prefer to have it in the resulting deb :P | 00:11 |
X-Fade | Stskeeps: Yeah, I don't want to butcher the source. | 00:12 |
Stskeeps | if it's built by autobuilder it is probably for fremantle, so | 00:12 |
xorAxAx | X-Fade: yeah, and what will be in the repos? multiple debs for every dependency? | 00:12 |
xorAxAx | in case of an pr | maemo-version dep | 00:13 |
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X-Fade | xorAxAx: SDK and firware will always match. | 00:13 |
X-Fade | xorAxAx: Otherwise the sdk will not make any sense. | 00:13 |
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xorAxAx | well, true. so the sdk and mer need to match the release schedule of the PR? | 00:13 |
X-Fade | xorAxAx: No, mer will have it's own debs. | 00:14 |
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X-Fade | xorAxAx: I don't think Mer is aiming for binary compatibility per se. | 00:14 |
Stskeeps | with armv7 it's a tad difficult | 00:14 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: maybe this kind of functionality already exists in HAM | 00:15 |
X-Fade | Stskeeps: Which one? | 00:15 |
javispedro | ovi store using a repo per fw version is a bit odd. do they require uploaders building a package for each fw version? do they let a uploader "not uploading" a package to certain fw versions? | 00:15 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: well, something to help us | 00:16 |
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X-Fade | javispedro: Well I was running pr1.1 before and it was not compatible with it because they were still on 1.0 ;) | 00:17 |
xorAxAx | on different matters, one cannot use android market with their emulator without doing illegal things. so one has to hunt for packages manually | 00:17 |
javispedro | chaos ensues. | 00:18 |
X-Fade | javispedro: So it seems they build for a specific version. | 00:18 |
X-Fade | javispedro: Or... haven't thought about it. | 00:18 |
javispedro | "repo per fw version, but new packages aim for the latest one. previous fw versions don't have the repo enabled." | 00:18 |
X-Fade | Or, to be fair, have solved the problem completely ;) | 00:18 |
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GeneralAntilles | Repo-per-firmware would require mucking with the sources list. | 00:20 |
xorAxAx | how about aiming for a stable ABI like windows did from 1.0 to xp? :) | 00:20 |
xorAxAx | that would be the enterprise class solution :-) | 00:20 |
javispedro | :nod:, and come to think of it, it's the same as just setting a "Xb-Minimal-Fw" in the package control file | 00:20 |
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GeneralAntilles | xorAxAx, out of our control? | 00:21 |
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xorAxAx | GeneralAntilles: hmm? | 00:21 |
xorAxAx | indeed | 00:21 |
GeneralAntilles | We can't control what Nokia ships. | 00:21 |
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Stskeeps | javispedro: that's an actual flag? | 00:21 |
xorAxAx | didnt think about that | 00:21 |
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javispedro | Stskeeps: nope, fiction | 00:21 |
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Stskeeps | nokia isn't really doing ABI breaks, it's a 'feature' of dpkg-buildpackage that it says libosso (>= something) | 00:22 |
X-Fade | Well, AM could just add -version1 to the repository name. | 00:22 |
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X-Fade | So we have numbered repositories ;) | 00:22 |
X-Fade | But I hate that. | 00:22 |
* javispedro will start depending on pr1.1 from now on on the SDL packages I maintain, since I plan to remove the pr1.0 specific hacks | 00:23 |
X-Fade | Anyway, time to get some sleep. Reply to the thread on talk, post on -developers or my blog ;) | 00:23 |
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javispedro | gnite | 00:23 |
javispedro | and also, there will be some packages that will depend on pr1.2 by not implementing the pr1.0/1.1 rotation "hacks" | 00:24 |
xorAxAx | 1.2 will have sane rotation? | 00:24 |
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javispedro | xorAxAx: that's what I've read (so _SUPPORT flag will mean h-d rotates if device held in portrait) | 00:25 |
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javispedro | which is what everyone though in the first place.... :) | 00:26 |
xorAxAx | cool | 00:26 |
xorAxAx | and how is the desktop arranged then? | 00:26 |
xorAxAx | does it shuffle your widgets and icons? | 00:26 |
javispedro | xorAxAx: I don't mind rotation support in any apps | 00:26 |
javispedro | s/mind/mean | 00:26 |
xorAxAx | (working like a barkeeper's mixer) | 00:26 |
javispedro | I mean sane rotation support in libraries, | 00:27 |
xorAxAx | ok | 00:27 |
javispedro | since currently to implement it you have to check for accelerometer events and the like | 00:27 |
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xorAxAx | the telephone app isnt particularly good at doing so | 00:27 |
xorAxAx | it often misdetects things here | 00:27 |
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Stskeeps | neat, mer 0.17testing10 works oob on n900, if you dump firmware files into it | 00:30 |
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SpeedEvil | Does it support portrait? :) | 00:30 |
Stskeeps | err.. possibly | 00:30 |
Stskeeps | there's no accelerometer daemon | 00:30 |
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* SpeedEvil was playing with xrandr the other night. | 00:31 |
javispedro | Stskeeps: I'm just noticing status bar items (the small ones) still appear color swapped | 00:31 |
Knightcz | what's the advantage of mer against the original firmware? | 00:31 |
SpeedEvil | Knightcz: at the moment - none | 00:31 |
javispedro | though this is with clutter pr1.0 + my latest patch | 00:31 |
GeneralAntilles | bug #8240 . . . | 00:32 |
povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8240 AT&T 850/1900MHz support | 00:32 |
SpeedEvil | Knightcz: it's considerably less functional. | 00:32 |
xorAxAx | Knightcz: higher percentage of FOSS code on your device | 00:32 |
Knightcz | SpeedEvil: and in the future? | 00:32 |
SpeedEvil | Knightcz: maybe in 6 moths - it will be usable as a nice phone | 00:32 |
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SpeedEvil | n | 00:32 |
Stskeeps | Knightcz: full ubuntu userland and sane development | 00:32 |
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Knightcz | ah | 00:32 |
Knightcz | SpeedEvil: that's nice | 00:32 |
Jaffa | Theory: if the ABI hasn't changed - what about munging the resulting libosso dependency? (or some kind of symlink to the other version; although this is a packaging rather than runtime problem, AIUI) | 00:32 |
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javispedro | cause for some packages I guess the ABI has changed... | 00:33 |
javispedro | and knowing that with broken shlibdeps is like... magic. | 00:33 |
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javispedro | s/packages/functions | 00:33 |
Knightcz | Stskeeps: that's also nice | 00:33 |
Cas07 | just read about problems with reboot after boot_count reaches 50 device wont boot? | 00:33 |
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javispedro | i.e. there are new functions I guess :) | 00:33 |
Cas07 | anyone got any info ? | 00:33 |
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Jaffa | javispedro: Might be worth checking - Nokia almost certainly wouldn't have done that intentionally (AFAICT) unless there was no choice. We know how they worry about each individual change... | 00:34 |
Stskeeps | Cas07: it's a safety mechanism | 00:34 |
Cas07 | to to with filesystem? | 00:34 |
Jaffa | javispedro: It's been a while since I checked, if it's a C library, new functions don't break the ABI (IIRC) | 00:34 |
Cas07 | do. | 00:34 |
javispedro | Jaffa: That would be the cleanest way (make shlibdeps work, so that a new symbol causes a dependency on the later library, and apps don't using any new symbols don't cause that, then make h-a-m intelligent about this) | 00:35 |
javispedro | but seeing X-Fade reaction it also seems the hardest one ;) | 00:35 |
Jaffa | Heh :) | 00:36 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: ah, - i think shlibdeps already works but i was thinking we can modify it to check multiple versions of the lib | 00:36 |
Stskeeps | and the earliest it can use based on symbols | 00:36 |
Jaffa | That sounds the smartest | 00:36 |
javispedro | Stskeeps: that's how it should work | 00:36 |
javispedro | basically, AFAIU, the latest -dev package ships a file with each symbol + version | 00:36 |
Jaffa | Then it's just munging the deps to give a useful error message | 00:36 |
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javispedro | there's also the problem that H-A-M only knows about the next SSU version | 00:37 |
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Jaffa | Anything involving HAM doesn't seem optimal. | 00:37 |
* javispedro reads shlibdeps docs... | 00:38 |
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javispedro | http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps | 00:39 |
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Jaffa | javispedro: Sounds promising from the summary | 00:41 |
xorAxAx | Jaffa: is there a changelog for catorise? | 00:42 |
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pupnik | Results 1 - 10 of about 1,020 for "explosive nipples". (0.19 seconds) | 00:42 |
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javispedro | but getting nokia to follow that... | 00:44 |
Jaffa | xorAxAx: Yes, in the source code; but you'd have to look in the .tar.gz | 00:44 |
Luser | SyncA, http://pastebin.com/m5d45af91. quite horrible but my perl got a bit rusty.. | 00:44 |
Jaffa | xorAxAx: 0.6.0 has slightly improved error handling (if you use 1.2009.42-11 and don't have the HAM icons) and `dpkg -s' rather than `apt-cache show'. | 00:44 |
Jaffa | xorAxAx: Main reason was minor tidy-ups before pushing to -testing | 00:45 |
Jaffa | javispedro: Yeah, one imagines none of the libs have .symbols files atm (one *guesses*, anyway) | 00:45 |
xorAxAx | ok | 00:45 |
derf | lardman|home: Did you ever play around with cropping the video in mbarcode? | 00:45 |
javispedro | Jaffa: in fact, one would guess not even the required dpkg-shlibdeps version are there atm ;) | 00:45 |
javispedro | s/are/is | 00:46 |
Jaffa | javispedro: Doh | 00:46 |
Jaffa | Probably because anything dpkg related ahsn't been updated since OS2005 ;-) | 00:46 |
javispedro | oh | 00:46 |
javispedro | dpkg-shlibdeps in debian-lenny devkit | 00:46 |
woglinde | hi javis | 00:46 |
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pupnik | are you wasting your time? this picture will help you decide: http://www.ectomo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/meathook.jpg | 00:48 |
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pupnik | i see a lot of this | 00:49 |
simula | is that a diving suit or a robot? | 00:50 |
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lardman|home | derf: yes, should be done in the latest version of mbarcode iirc | 00:51 |
arachnist | pupnik: is that a Droid? ;) | 00:51 |
derf | Oh, sweet. I should upgrade. | 00:51 |
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lardman|home | derf: dragly is doing sterling work producing a Qt QUI and framework, will be hacking on that now | 00:52 |
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pupnik | arachnist: i look at that and think, 'what am i doing' | 00:52 |
derf | I'm just at a conference and couldn't read the QR code on my badge. | 00:52 |
derf | Because the camera couldn't focus on it well enough. | 00:52 |
lardman|home | but still patching any issues in the gtk+ code if they are easy & quick | 00:52 |
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lardman|home | yeah give the update a go, should work better (I hope!) | 00:52 |
javispedro | hi wog | 00:53 |
derf | Yeah, will do. App Manager is slow. | 00:53 |
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lardman|home | doh! forgot to upload blas before trying octave | 00:54 |
* lardman|home heads back to the TV | 00:54 |
derf | Hmm, updating appears broken. | 00:55 |
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Jef91 | Anyone else having issues getting perl installed on their N900? | 00:56 |
derf | It doesn't seem to be following 302 redirects. | 00:56 |
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Jaffa | Jef91: Perl itself is in the firmware; perl-modules isn't | 00:58 |
Jef91 | Jaffa - according to my dpkg -l perl is not installed on my phone | 00:58 |
Jef91 | And when I try to install an application it tells me it need perl-modules installed, but there is no package to install for it | 00:59 |
Jaffa | Jef91: And when you do `perl -V' what do you get? ;-) | 00:59 |
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Jaffa | Jef91: perl-modules is in the SDK repo if you NEED it; but be careful what else you install from there. | 00:59 |
Jef91 | Ahh kk - I wanted to install frozen-bubble | 01:00 |
Jef91 | but it wants perl-modules | 01:00 |
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timeless_mbp | Jef91: perl-base is installed | 01:01 |
timeless_mbp | perl has more dependencies | 01:01 |
VDVsx | Jef91, frozen bubble probably uses OpenGL/mesa | 01:01 |
javispedro | frozen bubble was ported already to diablo iirc | 01:01 |
javispedro | iirc it's a plain sdl game | 01:01 |
VDVsx | better check that first | 01:01 |
timeless_mbp | ? | 01:01 |
javispedro | http://fb-maemo.blogspot.com/ | 01:02 |
javispedro | lol | 01:02 |
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javispedro | there's an entire blog dedicated to porting frozen bubble :) | 01:02 |
javispedro | nice | 01:02 |
Jef91 | timeless_mbp - when I try to install perl-base it tellsme I need perl-modules | 01:02 |
timeless_mbp | Jef91: um | 01:03 |
timeless_mbp | dpkg -l perl-base | 01:03 |
timeless_mbp | Jef91: i presume you're on an n900 and not in a scratchbox | 01:03 |
Jef91 | timeless_mbp correct | 01:04 |
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VDVsx | javispedro, at least more recent versions depend on libsdl-perl that depends on GLU | 01:04 |
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Jef91 | timeless_mbp perl-base is installed - however frozenbubble from the extra repos says it wants perl-modules | 01:05 |
timeless_mbp | Jef91: "not my problem" :) | 01:05 |
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xorAxAx | gah, i dont manage to pin down fremantle/sdk | 01:08 |
timeless_mbp | anyone here know how to convert an xwindow id into a gtk window? | 01:09 |
timeless_mbp | (for the purposes of parenting a gtk window) | 01:09 |
derf | lardman|home: No, I still have to hold the thing an inch away to get it large enough, and it can't focus at that distance. | 01:09 |
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wazd | I finally got my 770, so I had some new enthusiasm for this. | 01:11 |
wazd | that was the time... | 01:11 |
xorAxAx | Jef91: have you succeeded installing perl-modules? | 01:11 |
xorAxAx | it would install another perl | 01:11 |
xorAxAx | and that might conflict with perl-base, i am not sure | 01:11 |
derf | lardman|home: This is with 0.0.8 (which I assume is the latest?) | 01:12 |
xorAxAx | i have a QR code which is focussed but it doesnt recognize it | 01:12 |
xorAxAx | lardman|home: any idea? | 01:12 |
xorAxAx | ah, it pulls perl from another repo, so it should work | 01:13 |
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derf | xorAxAx: If you can give me an image file, I can take a look. | 01:14 |
Jef91 | xorAxAx - don't care enough about frozen0bubble to risk bricking my n900 atm | 01:14 |
xorAxAx | Jef91: i dont care enough about perl to risk not playing frozen bubble atm :) | 01:15 |
xorAxAx | derf: ok, i will take one | 01:15 |
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Jef91 | mmm sweet! fMMS works like a charm | 01:18 |
Jef91 | I no longer have to hear "Your n900 does all that but can't send a picture message why?..." | 01:18 |
frals | Jef91: great :) | 01:18 |
Jef91 | frals - do you plan to add video support at some point? | 01:19 |
frals | yeah, its a bit down the list thou - for now you'll have to settle with receiving videos ;) | 01:19 |
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TheFaioli | How to fix scratchbox/SDK installation so that ESBox will recognize it? | 01:20 |
Jef91 | frals - very good. | 01:21 |
Jef91 | I'm so glad the repos are back online now | 01:21 |
Jef91 | and with lots of new software! | 01:21 |
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xorAxAx | derf: http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1667/6f6f26ad433440f9aa9895db06c0ce04.jpg | 01:22 |
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pillar | usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/apps <- is that the correct place for app icons in fremantle? | 01:22 |
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KamuiN900 | wow. I love the abiword port. | 01:23 |
KamuiN900 | im pretty much good to go. just need pptp vpn and the n900 is perfect | 01:23 |
KamuiN900 | eap-fast would be nice too | 01:23 |
xorAxAx | derf: http://share.ovi.com/guestpass.aspx?emailaddress=alex-test%40alexanderweb.de&confirmationcode=1323&returnurl=%2falbum%2fxoraxax.%253ealex-test%2540alexanderweb.de | 01:23 |
xorAxAx | derf: and then click download | 01:23 |
xorAxAx | ovi share suckz | 01:24 |
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TheFaioli | I think the problem was I installed using scratchbox sh/py scripts but for some reason ESBox doesn't like them... | 01:24 |
Jef91 | I saw airsnort has a package in devel now - does the N900 wifi card support packet injection? | 01:25 |
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Luser | somebody asked for a list of packages in say, extras, is this available? | 01:25 |
Luser | it should I guess.. | 01:25 |
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VDVsx | Luser, should help: http://maemo.org/packages/ | 01:27 |
wnd | that's what dists/$distribution/$component/binary-$arch/Packages{,.gz,bz2} is for | 01:27 |
wnd | s/bz2/.&/ | 01:27 |
infobot | wnd meant: that's what dists/$distribution/$component/binary-$arch/Packages{,.gz,.&} is for | 01:28 |
Luser | wnd yes right, but something trimmed.. | 01:28 |
wnd | infobot's regexp parser isn't exactly complete | 01:28 |
wnd | Luser, just run it through sed or grep ;-) | 01:28 |
Luser | wget http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages | sed -e '/Maemo-Icon/,/^$/d' | egrep "^$|^Package|^Description|^ " | 01:28 |
Luser | yep | 01:28 |
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Luser | i havent managed to do more horrible.. | 01:29 |
Luser | VDVsx, thanks exactly | 01:30 |
corecode | the n900 prices are like the stock market | 01:32 |
corecode | completely unpredictable | 01:32 |
corecode | and up and down | 01:32 |
xorAxAx | corecode: what happened? | 01:32 |
Luser | hum wget and pipe was not a good idea | 01:32 |
xorAxAx | i got one for 499 EUR in germany | 01:32 |
corecode | well my newegg order is still somewhere | 01:32 |
xorAxAx | new, unbranded, 3 days after order | 01:32 |
cehteh | from where btw? | 01:33 |
smps | xorAxAx, where ? | 01:33 |
* cehteh still waiting for mp3-player.de | 01:33 |
* SpeedEvil finds secret nightvision mode in the camera!!! | 01:33 |
xorAxAx | handy-schotte.com | 01:33 |
Jaffa | Damn, maemo.org/packages picking up auto-builder builds seems to be broken | 01:33 |
N900evil | mplayer tv:// -tv device=/dev/video0 | 01:33 |
smps | xorAxAx, thx | 01:33 |
SpeedEvil | now - in a darkish place - compare the output of that with | 01:34 |
cehteh | SpeedEvil: woot .. no IR filter or long exposure / charge pump? | 01:34 |
Jaffa | Luser: wget -O - ;-) | 01:34 |
N900evil | mplayer tv:// -tv device=/dev/video0 -vf eq=77:100,eq=10:100,eq=50:100,denoise3d=8:6:22,scale=320:240 | 01:34 |
cehteh | xorAxAx: what hardware revision do you got? | 01:34 |
SpeedEvil | the main camera that is | 01:34 |
wnd | he could also just use curl | 01:34 |
xorAxAx | cehteh: how to find out? | 01:34 |
cehteh | cat /proc/cpuinfo | 01:34 |
cehteh | SpeedEvil: how that? | 01:35 |
xorAxAx | 2101 | 01:35 |
xorAxAx | is that old? | 01:35 |
cehteh | video or still? | 01:35 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: video | 01:35 |
Luser | Jaffa, thanks :) | 01:35 |
cehteh | nice | 01:35 |
cehteh | xorAxAx: mhm .. i forgotten .. but these are listed in the firmware images | 01:36 |
Luser | wget -O - http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages | sed -e '/Maemo-Icon/,/^$/d' | egrep "^$|^Package|^Description|^ " | less | 01:36 |
smps | i got same revision | 01:36 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: it goes from a totally black screen to a visible-but-grainy image | 01:36 |
Luser | ok real life waiting for me, bye | 01:37 |
SpeedEvil | wave | 01:37 |
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cehteh | SpeedEvil: yeah charge pumping mode | 01:37 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: err - no. | 01:37 |
cehteh | mhm | 01:37 |
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SpeedEvil | cehteh: it's simply using several chained mplayer brightness filters, then a denoise filter. | 01:37 |
cehteh | duh .. | 01:38 |
pupnik | you can also do denoise without temporal denoising | 01:38 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: there is a large amount of fixed noise, which could also be subtracted. | 01:38 |
cehteh | thought you found something in firmware | 01:38 |
SpeedEvil | pupnik: yes - temporal makes it lots quieter though | 01:38 |
pupnik | yeah i just thought i'd say something stupid | 01:38 |
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pupnik | impressive how well denoise3d worked | 01:39 |
cehteh | SpeedEvil: normally a CCD is discharged/recharged (dunno which way around) when you read it out | 01:39 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: it's a CMOS imager | 01:39 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: it will be totally discharged on readout. | 01:39 |
cehteh | but some sensors can be put into a mode to accumulate over longer times | 01:39 |
cehteh | ok | 01:39 |
SpeedEvil | cehteh: it may be possible to get it working better - but as I understnad it that would involve hackery | 01:39 |
SpeedEvil | possibly involving the non-existant camera datasheet | 01:39 |
cehteh | xorAxAx: flasher-3.5 -l -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin | 01:40 |
cehteh | gives a nice list of known hardware revisions | 01:40 |
xorAxAx | cehteh: pastebin it | 01:40 |
xorAxAx | for me that means piping it into a three letter acronym | 01:40 |
xorAxAx | thanks to paste.pocoo.org | 01:40 |
xorAxAx | (including vim and emacs support) | 01:41 |
cehteh | http://pastebin.com/m105a033b | 01:41 |
SpeedEvil | oh - obviously - move the denoise before the scale, and it's better | 01:41 |
cehteh | so 2101 is first batch or? .. i dont know which hardware revisions are really released and which how they are ordered | 01:42 |
cehteh | but mine was 2101 too | 01:42 |
smps | was ? | 01:42 |
cehteh | i send it back a week ago | 01:44 |
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* thomaz strugrling with msn plugins | 01:55 |
pupnik | microsoft: the company that tried to prevent tcp/ip from being used on PCs | 01:55 |
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swc|666 | then took the bsd tcp/ip stack | 01:56 |
xorAxAx | and replaced it by a complete rewrite | 01:56 |
pupnik | i wonder how many suicides they caused | 01:57 |
swc|666 | and still is a fail OS... lol | 01:57 |
swc|666 | pupnik, a lot i presume | 01:57 |
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pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Are_You_A_Microsoft_User.jpg | 02:03 |
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swc|666 | nice | 02:04 |
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mtnbkr | pupnik: microsoft has had a LONG history of buying/tealing/borrowing other people | 02:12 |
mtnbkr | 's code (or whole companies) and then putting the "innovate" lie^H^Hable on the tech or just shelving it | 02:12 |
timeless_mbp | can you guys please complain about ms somewhere else? | 02:13 |
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xorAxAx | yeah, complaining about nokia would be ontopic | 02:13 |
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pupnik | we still don't have an *apology* for blocking *# | 02:14 |
pupnik | when you can pass them straight through to the modem from cmdline | 02:15 |
xorAxAx | they are not blocked, they behave differently than calls | 02:15 |
pupnik | ah thanks | 02:15 |
xorAxAx | you need to decode the reply | 02:15 |
timeless_mbp | pupnik: *# kinda expects a ui | 02:15 |
timeless_mbp | and iirc most of that is coming in 1.2 | 02:15 |
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darkcool | hi i need help to find two libraries | 02:17 |
darkcool | where i can download and how i can install it on my n810 | 02:18 |
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darkcool | ncurses-base and tcpdump | 02:18 |
kamui__ | pupnik | 02:18 |
kamui__ | sup G | 02:19 |
derf | xorAxAx: That first image you posted is not a QR code. | 02:19 |
xorAxAx | derf: oh, what is it? | 02:19 |
derf | The second one requires an Ovi membership. | 02:19 |
derf | xorAxAx: Datamatrix. | 02:19 |
xorAxAx | is that supported? | 02:19 |
pupnik | listening to great music kamui__ | 02:19 |
derf | Supposedly, but it's actually multiple codes all shoved adjacent to each other. | 02:20 |
kamui__ | haha, nice | 02:20 |
derf | Which I'm not sure is supported. | 02:20 |
hardaker | does the ovi store work on anyone's n900 yet? mine says to upgrade, but it's sort of in an odd state. | 02:20 |
kamui__ | I have been unnecessarily fascinated with the Abiword port | 02:20 |
derf | I didn't write the datamatrix code. | 02:20 |
kamui__ | I wrote a paper just to try it out | 02:20 |
hardaker | (since I had at flash it after the last upgrade trashed it) | 02:20 |
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darkcool | ill try to use this apt-get install ncurses-base tcpdump | 02:20 |
darkcool | and doesnt work | 02:20 |
niekt0 | when I do $ mplayer tv://... video1, how the hell mplayers knows the turn of n900? I doubt its parsing input from accelometers, so it must be "build in" funcionality of camera (??) | 02:21 |
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SpeedEvil | umm | 02:21 |
darkcool | its works | 02:21 |
* SpeedEvil wonders if that was a deeply stupid question. | 02:21 |
* kamui__ wonders if he's the only one who doesn't quite understand the question | 02:22 |
xorAxAx | derf: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Japan-qr-code-billboard.jpg&filetimestamp=20090104110949 | 02:22 |
xorAxAx | derf: thats an qr example which doesnt extract the url correctly | 02:23 |
xorAxAx | derf: also i would like to have a feature which opens google with the number extracted from barcodes | 02:23 |
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derf | xorAxAx: It decodes fine here with zbar. | 02:24 |
xorAxAx | derf: yes, but then it doesnt chop the message | 02:25 |
niekt0 | well, when I do mplayer tv:// /dev/video1, I see myself upside down (in | 02:25 |
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xorAxAx | derf: but it passes the full message to the browser | 02:25 |
darkcool | i have kismet with gps | 02:25 |
xorAxAx | which is more than the url | 02:25 |
derf | xorAxAx: Ah, I see. | 02:25 |
niekt0 | "vertical" mode, even when I turn mobile. I can fix it by som scwitch to mplayer, but where is this "inteligence" done? | 02:26 |
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kamui__ | niekt0, odd. When run mplayer on the video device, I see the 5mp camera's image, normal inversion | 02:29 |
kamui__ | what is the exact command you're typing | 02:29 |
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kamui__ | that would describe the default output of the front vga camera | 02:29 |
villager | I think he wrote video1, not video0, so probably got the front cam | 02:29 |
kamui__ | but I dont see how you get that from your command | 02:29 |
kamui__ | at least for me, ANY video device is linking to the rear cam | 02:30 |
kamui__ | though mirror works :) | 02:30 |
niekt0 | for me, video0 is big(rear) cam, and video1 is small(front) camera | 02:30 |
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niekt0 | I just want to know how this get automatically flipped | 02:31 |
kamui__ | niekt0, are you saying that when you rotate the phone the camera image reorients? | 02:33 |
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Guest21975 | question for people - anyone else suffering from bookmarks that disappear? | 02:34 |
Guest21975 | I've added store.ovi.mobi about half a dozen times as a bookmark, and it just keeps on disappearing! | 02:34 |
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milhouse | that's better. :) | 02:34 |
villager | I think I see what he means... he's holding the phone in portrait mode, which means that the video will appear rotated 90 degrees twice (once by holding it in portrait when it's really a landscape camera, and once by the mplayer also trying to display in landscape) | 02:35 |
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hardaker | so does store.ovi.mobi actually work for you milhouse? | 02:35 |
hardaker | (cause it doesn't for me). | 02:35 |
villager | hence a total of 180 degrees rotation | 02:35 |
Guest10594 | hardaker: yes | 02:35 |
* hardaker pats nickserv on the shoulder; good man. | 02:35 |
villager | of course, that means there's no intelligence in this anywhere | 02:35 |
villager | (and that is totally was a totally stupid question) | 02:36 |
niekt0 | kamui__> actually, I am saying that when I turn camera upside down, the image is still same. So I cannot film someone upside down. I am not saying this is a bug, I just wonder where does it come from, and if it can be dissabled. | 02:36 |
hardaker | sigh I think that means I have a half-upgraded device. | 02:36 |
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Guest10594 | aha, think i've hit bug #6269 | 02:37 |
povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6269 Can't reuse the name of a bookmark that has been deleted | 02:37 |
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svanheulen | Hello! | 02:38 |
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timeless_mbp | Guest10594: so, it's not too hard to fix the locally... | 02:39 |
svanheulen | Hey, anyone else here use T-Mobile with their N900? | 02:39 |
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Proteous | I do | 02:39 |
niekt0 | svanheulen> I do | 02:39 |
SpeedEvil | svanheulen: me | 02:39 |
milhouse | @timeless: sorry, what do you mean? | 02:40 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: it's a text fike | 02:40 |
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timeless_mbp | s/ke/le/ | 02:40 |
infobot | timeless_mbp meant: milhouse: it's a text file | 02:40 |
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svanheulen | Are your guys data connections proxied? Mine wasn't until about a week ago, now I'm being proxied through Tennessee | 02:40 |
timeless_mbp | you can open it in vi and get rid of the bits you don't like | 02:40 |
milhouse | timeless: yes but according to that bug this is fixed in 51-1 | 02:40 |
milhouse | timeless: well yes... I could... ideally i'd rather the bug was fixed :) | 02:41 |
Proteous | svanheulen: what APN ARE YOU USING | 02:41 |
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Proteous | er sorry bout caps | 02:41 |
svanheulen | epc.t-mobile.com | 02:41 |
corecode | i heard there is some service where you can upload your mp3s and then listen to them from everywhere using a flash player | 02:42 |
corecode | anybody know that? | 02:42 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: so... | 02:42 |
timeless_mbp | i'm running 51-1 | 02:42 |
corecode | alternative to using spotify on the n900 | 02:42 |
timeless_mbp | i created a bookmark by right clicking 'world' on news.google.com | 02:42 |
timeless_mbp | then i went to bookmarks, right clicked 'world', and deleted it | 02:42 |
milhouse | yeah, it doesn't happen straight away | 02:42 |
Proteous | svanheulen: I belive they are all proxied now but you can try internet2.tmobile.com | 02:42 |
timeless_mbp | then i loaded news.google.com again, right clicked again, added the bookmark again | 02:43 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: so...killall browser didn't cause my bookmark to disappear | 02:43 |
Proteous | might come out somewhere closer | 02:43 |
svanheulen | Proteous: well if they are all proxied it must have happened recently because it wasn't doing that a couple weeks ago | 02:44 |
milhouse | timeless: I'm yet to identify the circumstances under which it disappears... could be time, or reboot | 02:44 |
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timeless_mbp | milhouse: so... | 02:44 |
timeless_mbp | i looked at the xml file | 02:44 |
timeless_mbp | i don't see a second entry for 'world' | 02:44 |
timeless_mbp | just use xterm and look at the file | 02:44 |
milhouse | i've created a bookmark - Mozilla Mobile Test - which is still there. It's just my "Ovi Store" (store.ovi.mobi) bookmark which won't stay put | 02:45 |
timeless_mbp | if you see an interesting entry, lemme know | 02:45 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: err | 02:45 |
timeless_mbp | isn't ovi store a default bookmark? | 02:45 |
milhouse | timeless: what is the location of the is the file? | 02:45 |
milhouse | timeless: Yes, I think it might be | 02:45 |
timeless_mbp | ~/.bookmarks/MyBookmarks.xml ? | 02:45 |
Proteous | svanheulen: it's hard to find good recent info on that stuff | 02:45 |
timeless_mbp | anyway, congrats, you shot yourself with predefined content | 02:45 |
milhouse | timeless: but come on... that's a bug, right? | 02:46 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: come on, you read the bug, right? | 02:46 |
GeneralAntilles | Oh, milhouse, by the by, do you want a maemo.org cloak? | 02:46 |
svanheulen | Proteous: very true | 02:47 |
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milhouse | timeless: yes, I'm trying to get my head around it. still can't see how this can be excused as not being something designed to confuse the hell out of the end user | 02:47 |
milhouse | GA: Sure, need my postal address? ;) | 02:47 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: um | 02:48 |
GeneralAntilles | milhouse, blood type, and mother's maiden name. | 02:48 |
svanheulen | blood type: red | 02:48 |
timeless_mbp | milhouse: anyway | 02:48 |
timeless_mbp | the code they changed was to 'is duplicate bookmark' | 02:48 |
timeless_mbp | which to me seems like an incredibly odd place to 'fix' it | 02:49 |
timeless_mbp | if you can still trigger the problem, attach your file showing the deleted entry | 02:49 |
timeless_mbp | and reopen the bug | 02:49 |
milhouse | timeless: yes, "Ovi Store" is a stock bookmark and in the XML it still has the original "link.ovi.mobi" but that bookmark is no longer visible | 02:49 |
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timeless_mbp | does the xml have a deleted annotation? | 02:50 |
milhouse | yep | 02:50 |
milhouse | value 1 | 02:50 |
milhouse | <bookmark href="http://link.ovi.mobi/n900ovistore" favicon="" thumbnail="thumbnail_ovistore.png"> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <title>Ovi Store</title> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <info> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <metadata> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <time_visited>1263377812</time_visited> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <time_added>1190302841</time_added> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <visit_count>2</visit_count> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <operator_bookmark>1</operator_bookmark> | 02:50 |
milhouse | <deleted>1</deleted> | 02:50 |
milhouse | </metadata> | 02:50 |
milhouse | </info> | 02:50 |
milhouse | </bookmark> | 02:50 |
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timeless_mbp | ... i trust you... no need to flood here | 02:50 |
svanheulen | blarg, pastebin | 02:50 |
milhouse | (Sorry) | 02:50 |
timeless_mbp | upload your file | 02:51 |
milhouse | I also have 4 more entries also titled "Ovi Store" | 02:51 |
timeless_mbp | then reopen the bug, change the version to 51-1 | 02:51 |
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timeless_mbp | milhouse: the problem here is that ui designers are well, stupid | 02:51 |
milhouse | so basically I have 5 "Ovi Store" bookmarks, one deleted, four not deleted, none show up. | 02:51 |
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timeless_mbp | and bug fixers are contracted | 02:51 |
timeless_mbp | the bug was probably "fixed" w/o looking at my suggested fix :/ | 02:52 |
milhouse | sigh... good to know nokia are taking this all seriously. | 02:52 |
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timeless_mbp | ... | 02:52 |
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timeless_mbp | we wanted to drop bookmarks entirely | 02:52 |
timeless_mbp | that got approved and then dropped iirc | 02:52 |
timeless_mbp | which left us up a creek with some really messed up paddles | 02:52 |
timeless_mbp | (and a boat with lots of holes in it) | 02:53 |
torindel | ok maybe dumb question: anyother way to close openarena than via ssh? xD | 02:54 |
timeless_mbp | ctrl-backspace? power key? | 02:54 |
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torindel | power key screws things up | 02:54 |
hardaker | err... | 02:54 |
hardaker | can someone tell me if "dpkg -l maemo5" lists anything for them? | 02:55 |
Jef91 | "E: Build-dependencies could not be satisfied. | 02:55 |
Jef91 | " - is there a way I can have it tell me which build depens it cannot find/get? | 02:55 |
torindel | timeless_mbp: i.e. power key menu shows up but its not on "top layer" of clicking on touchscreen | 02:55 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: NO | 02:55 |
hardaker | ok, that sort of makes me feel better. | 02:55 |
timeless_mbp | torindel: awesome | 02:55 |
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timeless_mbp | hardaker: the package you want is something like mp-fremantle-... | 02:56 |
hardaker | mp-fremantle-002-pr? | 02:56 |
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hardaker | see... cause the ovi store still says it's not available for my device, which means the image I flashed to the phone is, um, wrong-ish. | 02:57 |
hardaker | (though it looks right-ish) | 02:57 |
torindel | timeless_mbp: ctrl+backspace doesnt work | 02:58 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: what does settings>about say? | 02:59 |
timeless_mbp | torindel: ctrl-shift-x? :) | 02:59 |
timeless_mbp | oh, or, open the camera lens cover :) | 02:59 |
SpeedEvil | hardaker: or the ovi store is broken | 02:59 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: did you try store.ovi.mobi ? | 02:59 |
hardaker | 2.2009.51-1.002 | 02:59 |
Jef91 | hardaker - try manually entering the store URL | 03:00 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: that's current | 03:00 |
hardaker | Jef91: did that. | 03:00 |
torindel | timeless_mbp: ok got it /quit from openarena console xD | 03:00 |
hardaker | (that's where I get the error) | 03:00 |
timeless_mbp | torindel: try the others | 03:00 |
hardaker | the OVI button actually takes me to a page that says "go to the app manager to update your phone" | 03:00 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: javascript:navigator.userAgent | 03:00 |
hardaker | (err... button = silly app that registers a desktop setting just to open a web page) | 03:01 |
timeless_mbp | did you install something stupid like browser-useragent-hider? | 03:01 |
hardaker | timeless_mbp: ahh... yes, I did. | 03:01 |
hardaker | duh. | 03:01 |
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timeless_mbp | RESOLVED USERS ARE STUPID | 03:01 |
hardaker | long enough ago totally forgot about it. | 03:01 |
hardaker | I bet that's it. | 03:01 |
redeeman | timeless_mbp: no, ovi store is stupid for requiring user agent | 03:01 |
timeless_mbp | please feel free to yell at ovi for being somewhat stupid | 03:01 |
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timeless_mbp | their help should suggest that you not forge your useragent | 03:02 |
hardaker | definitely true. | 03:02 |
hardaker | or better yet, they should ask you which phone you're using and let you in anyway. | 03:02 |
torindel | timeless_mbp: shift+; acts as esc ^^ | 03:02 |
redeeman | its absurd that they require a specific useragent | 03:02 |
GeneralAntilles | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=477457 | 03:02 |
timeless_mbp | redeeman: why? | 03:02 |
hardaker | I don't like telling web servers which type of device I'm using. serve approved standard compliant objects to me please. | 03:03 |
timeless_mbp | would you like to buy software that won't work on your device? | 03:03 |
timeless_mbp | i'd be pissed | 03:03 |
redeeman | easy, don't be stupid enough to try and buy if you are on the wrong store | 03:03 |
timeless_mbp | redeeman: very funny | 03:03 |
redeeman | i also don't automatically get custom tailored clothes at the clothe shops | 03:03 |
GeneralAntilles | Gawd, Brainstorm is such a cesspool | 03:03 |
redeeman | i can buy incorrect clothes | 03:03 |
timeless_mbp | redeeman: i can return clothes | 03:03 |
timeless_mbp | even in this stupid country | 03:04 |
timeless_mbp | although, perhaps not undergarments | 03:04 |
hardaker | you can return software too, they just have to trust you. | 03:04 |
hardaker | I've actually done it with other companies | 03:04 |
timeless_mbp | does ovi support refunds? | 03:04 |
redeeman | nevertheless, if a user is stupid enough to buy something which it clearly says what is, but without looking, that is the users problem | 03:04 |
* timeless_mbp rotfl | 03:04 |
timeless_mbp | that's not the way users work | 03:04 |
timeless_mbp | look at the indignant users here! | 03:04 |
timeless_mbp | the customer is always right | 03:05 |
redeeman | rofl | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | best not to allow the customer if they're going to be annoying | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | they're bad for business | 03:05 |
hardaker | I think a company that offers a web site for downloading free software that they could just put in the repo is insanely stupid too | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: there's a word for this | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | but roughly, if you register, you're good for a certain statistic | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | for about 6 months iirc | 03:05 |
timeless_mbp | which means even though it's "Free" to you, you're "Valuable" to them | 03:06 |
timeless_mbp | (i'm not calling this smart, i'd actually call it dishonest) | 03:06 |
redeeman | not to mention they are testing their shit | 03:06 |
greenfly | but "repository" doesn't sound like "App store" and everyone knows a portable device has to have an App Store | 03:06 |
timeless_mbp | greenfly: and an app store can't be successful without content! | 03:06 |
timeless_mbp | especially free content | 03:06 |
redeeman | ofcourse with the (rumored?) policies for the ovi app store, its NEVER going to get successful | 03:07 |
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hardaker | it's companies like that which remind me why I use throw-away addresses per company. | 03:07 |
timeless_mbp | redeeman =~ s/its/it's/ | 03:07 |
greenfly | hardaker: heh, same here | 03:07 |
timeless_mbp | hardaker: i just gave my phone number to paypal | 03:07 |
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redeeman | lol i used fake email and phone number aswell | 03:07 |
timeless_mbp | because i'm going to arrange to block their software from firefox customers around the globe :) | 03:07 |
hardaker | I loved google's requirement you give them a cellphone number to activate your developer account via SMS | 03:08 |
redeeman | i didn't even check if it send me a mail, ovi store was nice enough to just let me in right after creation, no shitty activation | 03:08 |
hardaker | what the purpose of that is certainly is informatiion collection. | 03:08 |
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torindel | hardaker: well you can always buy prepaid for 1$ and threw it away afterwards -__- | 03:09 |
timeless_mbp | torindel =~ s/threw/throw/ | 03:09 |
timeless_mbp | (you want future tense, not past tense) | 03:09 |
timeless_mbp | (or conditional present or something) | 03:10 |
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GeneralAntilles | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=481130 | 03:10 |
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greenfly | anyone know if the recent addition of pidgin-otr (and the main otr libs and binaries) also means OTR support in telepathy? | 03:11 |
GeneralAntilles | I love stream-of-consciousness requests. | 03:11 |
pillar | GeneralAntilles: heh | 03:11 |
timeless_mbp | 'nakian' is that like 'naked'? | 03:13 |
Xisdibik | debian without clothes? | 03:13 |
greenfly | ubuntu? | 03:14 |
shinkamui | nudebuntu | 03:14 |
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Xisdibik | hey shinka, might i ask where you are located? | 03:15 |
Xisdibik | im just curious where no.no.cox.net is lol | 03:15 |
Xisdibik | shinka being shinkamui | 03:16 |
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pupnik | i hope the rumored good sales solves the chicken-and-egg problem with app stores | 03:18 |
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vip- | Im gonna order an n900 this week :D | 03:21 |
vip- | pretty excited | 03:21 |
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shinkamui | Xisdibik, New Orleans | 03:23 |
shinkamui | well, you' | 03:24 |
shinkamui | re not in the US | 03:24 |
shinkamui | cox is a cable provider here | 03:24 |
shinkamui | anyway Im off to th gym, cheers to you guys | 03:24 |
shinkamui | anyone who hasn't tried the new abiword release needs to get that sh1t installed | 03:24 |
Jef91 | The N900 really needs a Pandora Radio app | 03:24 |
shinkamui | its fantastic | 03:24 |
Jef91 | ones things I really miss | 03:24 |
shinkamui | Jef91, second | 03:25 |
shinkamui | but I hear spotify is good | 03:25 |
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shinkamui | I have yet to try it though, since its not available here | 03:25 |
Jef91 | spotify? | 03:25 |
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shinkamui | I hear its a pandora where you can selectively listen to what you want | 03:25 |
Jef91 | ahh kinda like grooveshark | 03:25 |
shamus | grooveshark is nice | 03:25 |
Jef91 | I like pandora exactly because I don't have to pick what I listen to... | 03:25 |
jebba | hey Jef91 is abiword optified? sry too lazy to check myself ;) | 03:26 |
Jef91 | and running pandora via flash in the browser lags hardcore | 03:26 |
Jef91 | jebba - not sure, that one in the repos is not my port | 03:26 |
milhouse | shinkamui: is abiword in maemo.org? | 03:26 |
shinkamui | I think its in extras-devel atm | 03:26 |
shamus | is there any chance of geting abiword to work on the old n800? | 03:26 |
Jef91 | Although I am now killing mine since someone else beat me to it lol | 03:26 |
shinkamui | I just noticed it today | 03:26 |
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shinkamui | shamus, I thought there was already an N800 port of abiword | 03:26 |
Jef91 | the abiword port in the repos is solid though - works very well | 03:27 |
shamus | ther is? | 03:27 |
shinkamui | IIRC shamus there is | 03:27 |
jebba | ah, ok i thought it was yours | 03:27 |
milhouse | shinkamui: thanks. hopefully it will make it to maemo.org soon enough | 03:27 |
shamus | what repository? | 03:27 |
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shamus | chinook? | 03:27 |
Xisdibik | shinkamui: im from the US though, im just in japan for 2 weeks ;) | 03:27 |
shinkamui | milhouse, Im not sure if its even optified, but it works pretty flawlessly, I wrote a very complex document today as a test | 03:27 |
shinkamui | Xisdibik, where are you from? | 03:27 |
Xisdibik | shinkamui: San Francisco Bay Area | 03:28 |
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shinkamui | oh, nice | 03:28 |
shinkamui | Im hoping to move further west soon | 03:28 |
shinkamui | haven' tbeen to Sanfran yet | 03:28 |
Xisdibik | west is the best ;) | 03:28 |
shinkamui | but that would be a nice place to settle down | 03:28 |
milhouse | shinkamui: watch out you don't run out of rootfs :) | 03:28 |
Xisdibik | its a tad expensive though | 03:28 |
Xisdibik | anyways im heading out of the hotel now | 03:28 |
Xisdibik | ill be online again sometime, or when im back in the states on thursday | 03:28 |
shinkamui | milhouse, I constantly monitor mine :) when in doubt, I use the optify script to relink packages | 03:28 |
ml-mobile | hey Xisdibik have you gotten the anthy-based IME to work? | 03:29 |
Jef91 | however the abiword port lacks spell checking... | 03:29 |
ml-mobile | gah | 03:29 |
shinkamui | ok, GYM time :) | 03:29 |
shinkamui | bbl | 03:29 |
Jef91 | (red lines everything for me) and it doesn't play well with auto word complete | 03:29 |
Xisdibik | ml-mobile: i havnt tried yet | 03:29 |
ml-mobile | ok | 03:29 |
Xisdibik | ml-mobile: i fubared my phone in the SF airport and had to reflash in japan | 03:29 |
Xisdibik | not gonna go down that route again | 03:29 |
ml-mobile | doh | 03:29 |
Xisdibik | until im home | 03:29 |
Xisdibik | but i was happy to see it in the repos | 03:30 |
Xisdibik | so im gonna test it a bunch when im home | 03:30 |
ml-mobile | cool | 03:30 |
Xisdibik | i also dont have wifi at this hotel and most of the places ive been staying | 03:30 |
Xisdibik | they just have LAN connections | 03:30 |
Xisdibik | anyways off i go | 03:31 |
Xisdibik | ttyl | 03:31 |
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Jef91 | No wifi? That would kill me | 03:32 |
shamus | ok i know this might be a sill question but what are the odds of a text based sl client with voice suport? | 03:33 |
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SpeedEvil | sl? | 03:33 |
ml-N900 | hmm | 03:34 |
shamus | second life | 03:34 |
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ml-N900 | it installed without issue on my phone, guess the sdk environment isn't quite the same for some packages | 03:34 |
SpeedEvil | ah | 03:34 |
SpeedEvil | I have never sl'd. | 03:34 |
SpeedEvil | I've not played the first one through yet. | 03:34 |
Jef91 | "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny main" | 03:35 |
Jef91 | is that the only URL for the lenny repos? | 03:35 |
Jef91 | Or are there others for extra software? | 03:35 |
jebba | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main | 03:35 |
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jebba | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main | 03:36 |
Jef91 | whats that second one jebba? | 03:36 |
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AndrewFBlack2 | X-Fade, Ping | 03:36 |
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jebba | http://www.debian.org/volatile/ Jef91 | 03:40 |
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fredrin | do the new n900 come with PR1.1? | 03:46 |
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fredrin | witing for my n900 to restock at the local shop | 03:46 |
fredrin | got a gift card i got to use | 03:46 |
fredrin | 29. jan will be a good day | 03:47 |
fredrin | :D | 03:47 |
SpeedEvil | doesn't really matter. | 03:47 |
fredrin | i know | 03:47 |
SpeedEvil | upgrade is painless | 03:47 |
fredrin | not for me | 03:47 |
fredrin | hopefully | 03:47 |
fredrin | heh | 03:47 |
fredrin | can you dual boot with mer? | 03:48 |
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b-man17 | fredrin: yes | 03:49 |
fredrin | sweet | 03:49 |
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b-man17 | btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_ETSvTAo4A&feature=sub if only they did something like that for the N900 xD | 03:50 |
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fredrin | sweeet, good marketing | 03:52 |
b-man17 | indeed xD | 03:52 |
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pupnik | i liked the n900 chris cunningham ad, with the green interrogation room and the pupnik spazzing out | 03:54 |
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shamus | so what dose the red pill do? is it just a easter egg or dose it basicly thro the app maniger into look at me i thjnk i realy know what im doign mode? | 03:54 |
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pupnik | it's there for people who watch matrix and want to break-out of the mundane world into the light of reality | 03:57 |
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SpeedEvil | There should so be blue pill mode. | 03:59 |
SpeedEvil | Which starts a nokia 3310 emulator. | 03:59 |
shamus | lol | 03:59 |
yuizy | :D | 04:00 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | lol | 04:01 |
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Realcomix | hi | 04:06 |
shamus | hum looks like gpe-calender dose not like my google ical as the inport fails | 04:06 |
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shamus | invalid format for type "date/time" in attribute CREATED | 04:08 |
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Jef91 | Does anyone know how i can figure out what package provides the file ld-linux.so.2 | 04:08 |
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Jef91 | nvm found it | 04:12 |
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phreck | im about to shoot myself | 04:20 |
phreck | anyone used the flasher in win7? | 04:20 |
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phreck | because i cant even get my n900 to go into flash mode | 04:20 |
phreck | i feel like a big bag of failure | 04:20 |
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Realcomix | ha i couldnt get it to work | 04:20 |
SpeedEvil | just linux | 04:20 |
phreck | yea | 04:21 |
phreck | im in ubuntu right now, about to give it another shot | 04:21 |
Realcomix | just dl live ubuntu iso | 04:21 |
SpeedEvil | what does it do? | 04:21 |
phreck | gotta go through the install first. | 04:21 |
phreck | i have a dedicated ubuntu box | 04:21 |
kamui__ | me too | 04:21 |
kamui__ | Im BAACK! | 04:21 |
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phreck | annnd im SOL due to me running 64 bit?! | 04:25 |
jebba | phreck: you need 32bit libraries. Too bad the flasher isn't free software :( | 04:27 |
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phreck | sigh | 04:27 |
jebba | There is a free software version that may work with N900: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Flash#Flashing_N900_with_0xFFFF See there for a few details | 04:28 |
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matthew- | HMM, can you download podcasts from iTunes onto your n900? | 04:28 |
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fredrin | can't you just apt-get something and have a flasher? | 04:30 |
fredrin | like the Neo Freerunner | 04:31 |
SpeedEvil | fredrin: the other side | 04:31 |
fredrin | dfu-util | 04:31 |
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SpeedEvil | fredrin: the PC flasher is not open source | 04:31 |
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jebba | fredrin: this definitely isn't a freerunner... | 04:31 |
SpeedEvil | fredrin: though a linux 32 bit binary is available | 04:31 |
fredrin | mmkay | 04:32 |
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swc|666 | jebba, bravo @ message to the list ;) | 04:52 |
hardaker | angry birds rocks | 04:52 |
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xorAxAx | would something like this be possible for maemo? "On an incoming call country and if available state or city of the caller is displayed." | 05:00 |
GeneralAntilles | Don't get enough non-contacts calls to make that worthwhile. | 05:00 |
SpeedEvil | If you can supply the reverse directory - probably | 05:00 |
jebba | xorAxAx: i once wrote a script for asterisk (which handled my calls) to do a reverse whitepages lookup of the caller and display it on google maps. heh | 05:00 |
xorAxAx | hah | 05:01 |
xorAxAx | the question is whether i can hook into the telephony event and augment the caller dialog with info | 05:01 |
clmntch | hello | 05:02 |
jebba | certainly could be done... can't think of how off the top of my head, but i still dont grok all the dbus stuff yet | 05:02 |
jebba | hola | 05:02 |
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* xorAxAx is currently developing a rule driven dwid daemon | 05:03 |
xorAxAx | that controls: | 05:03 |
xorAxAx | # availability, profile, cellular, secure, lock, wifi | 05:03 |
xorAxAx | anything else that should be controlled? | 05:03 |
xorAxAx | s/dwid/dwim/ | 05:03 |
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jebba | dwim? | 05:08 |
xorAxAx | do what i mean | 05:08 |
xorAxAx | it controls the device like an automatic profile daemon | 05:09 |
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jebba | ah cool | 05:12 |
xorAxAx | # gps, time, weekday, load, location, orientation | 05:12 |
xorAxAx | # moving, charging, playing, display, locked | 05:12 |
xorAxAx | are the inputs | 05:12 |
xorAxAx | i am using a rule engine | 05:12 |
matthew- | damn | 05:13 |
matthew- | my bat died after 3hours today | 05:13 |
matthew- | new record :D | 05:13 |
xorAxAx | what did you do? | 05:13 |
matthew- | just browse internet | 05:13 |
matthew- | _and shit_ | 05:13 |
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revnil | that is when i get the most use out of my n900, on the crapper. i lose track of time playing angry birds. | 05:16 |
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matthew- | revnil: i take my laptop to the loo | 05:18 |
KenYoung | Remind me not to buy revnil's used N900. | 05:18 |
KenYoung | Especially if there's water damage. | 05:19 |
matthew- | :-D | 05:19 |
revnil | :) i take my laptop too, but only at home. co-workers look at you funny when you lug a dell into the restroom | 05:20 |
microlith | :/ ovi store needs to work again so I can get the extra levels for angry birds | 05:20 |
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matthew- | revnil: i've got toilet in my office | 05:20 |
matthew- | dont share it with any1 :D | 05:20 |
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revnil | lucky...work from home? | 05:20 |
matthew- | nope | 05:21 |
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matthew- | one company i work for i own so ive got en suit office | 05:21 |
matthew- | other company i work for its an investment bank and im a director, hence ive got en suite | 05:21 |
matthew- | ;) | 05:21 |
revnil | ah nice. | 05:21 |
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* goodwill contemplates ovi maps vs sygic maps | 05:23 |
goodwill | any thought anyone | 05:23 |
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matthew- | are sygic maps out yet? | 05:24 |
vip- | does the n900 come with any memory card already ? | 05:24 |
matthew- | vip-: nope | 05:24 |
vip- | :l | 05:24 |
matthew- | goodwill: they're not. | 05:24 |
goodwill | matthew-: I know ... but they are coming soon | 05:24 |
matthew- | ;] | 05:25 |
DocScrutinizer | there's a dbus msg with full phonenumber on inbound call | 05:26 |
SpeedEvil | vip-: but it has 32G inside | 05:26 |
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DocScrutinizer | should be a matter of a 10 limer python proggy to look up the countrycode of the number in a table and fire up a notifier | 05:28 |
revnil | matthew-: you looking for an assistant or anything? i'm willing to travel! | 05:28 |
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matthew- | revnil: Are you hot? red head? 3 languages a minimum? willing to sleep with your boss? | 05:28 |
DocScrutinizer | even mere shellscript | 05:28 |
revnil | yes, yes, hoe gaat het met jou?, na klar! | 05:29 |
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matthew- | :) | 05:29 |
matthew- | let me see if i can find my current PA on some facebook/myspace | 05:30 |
matthew- | heh ofc she is | 05:31 |
matthew- | revnil: http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_5ad9e04151e32bd978477896f831181d.jpg | 05:32 |
matthew- | + shes EASY like sunday morning | 05:32 |
matthew- | http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/10/l_58bb61926b31b75b9652aaf91a9a4114.jpg | 05:32 |
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revnil | oh you didn't say female....jeez | 05:33 |
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revnil | :) | 05:33 |
matthew- | heheh | 05:33 |
revnil | good lord. i want one of those.... | 05:34 |
SyncA | hi, I'd like to check for a bug report and if not present maybe try to file one on the volume inconsitencies in mediabox. | 05:34 |
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matthew- | revnil: yeah, | 05:35 |
SyncA | found wiki.maemo.org/bugs:Tasks | 05:35 |
matthew- | she gets over £100k a year thou | 05:35 |
doc|home | she's not hot, just kinda skanky looking | 05:37 |
revnil | she can't be over, what, 27? | 05:37 |
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SyncA | but cannot find a bug on mediabox and volume on bugs.maemo.org/query.cgi?format=specific | 05:38 |
SyncA | is there an other place I should check if this is a known bug? | 05:39 |
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revnil | bugs.maemo.org? | 05:43 |
revnil | seems like that's the place. | 05:43 |
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SyncA | hmm bad connection... | 05:48 |
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SyncA | so is it a problem with mediabox that the program sound control is more quiet than the system sound? | 05:49 |
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SyncA | or is it a system problem? how do I adress resolving this whole problem... that's the wiki I'm looking for... | 05:51 |
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uhsf | i'm waiting for my N900 to be shipped, i have two microsd card available, should i use a faster 8GB or a slower 16GB? | 05:53 |
GeneralAntilles | God I hate resolution trolls. | 05:54 |
goodwill | uhsf: do you need speed or size? | 05:54 |
Realcomix | lol | 05:54 |
SyncA | deam **** connection, goin home, will reconnect there... BBL | 05:55 |
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KenYoung | GeneralAntilles, What's a "resolution troll" ? | 05:57 |
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GeneralAntilles | KenYoung, a bugzilla user who typically REOPENs or re-RESOLVES bugs after a developer or triager has already closed them. | 05:58 |
GeneralAntilles | Similar to an edit war on wikipedia. | 05:58 |
KenYoung | GeneralAntilles, Thanks, I'd never heard of that. | 05:59 |
uhsf | goodwill: I need a good compromise between speed and size. | 05:59 |
uhsf | but i'm mostly bored waiting for my N900 to be shipped | 06:01 |
goodwill | uhsf: split the difference ... get a 12GB with medium speed | 06:02 |
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solrize | anyone got a zagg sparq? do you like it? there is a $20 off coupon supposedly on logicbuy so i'm sort of thinking of ordering one. and i don't even have an n900 yet :( | 06:04 |
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uhsf | Nokia N900 accessories I ordered are: Clarivue Ultra-Clear screen protector, Crystal Case from eBay and Shure Music Phone Adapter MPA-3C. | 06:09 |
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uhsf | I will wait for the Mugen Power extended battery and 32GB microSD cards to be available and get this also. | 06:11 |
solrize | good plan | 06:12 |
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phreck | flashing via linux is retarded simple. | 06:21 |
phreck | i cant believe i even tried via windows | 06:21 |
microlith | 'tis | 06:21 |
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microlith | I'm glad that vmware can map usb devices directly into a VM without trouble | 06:22 |
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phreck | yah | 06:22 |
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solrize | http://www.wayneschulz.com/2010/01/zagg-sparq-promises-4-iphone-recharges-can-it-deliver/ brutal review, maybe i will try to build my own portable pack from aa cells | 06:31 |
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janszoon | Photos off th n900: How do you get yours off? I used to use PCSuite for older nokia, worked quite well, ordered photos by day taken etc. n900 does not work for photos with PCSuite and as far as I know knot for OVi suite either.......any ideas???? | 06:33 |
janszoon | Yes I know mass sotrage, but I dont want to name all the folders etc...to transfer | 06:33 |
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microlith | janszoon: mass storage is pretty much it... at least for me | 06:39 |
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janszoon | microlith - thanks.....might have to try picasa or something | 06:41 |
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Jef91 | Hey all - is there a way I can force my n900 to stop accessing mydocs so it gives it to my computer when I plug it in? | 06:51 |
derf | Reboot it. | 06:51 |
derf | And hope you're faster than the media scanner. | 06:51 |
Jef91 | :-/ | 06:52 |
Jef91 | Thats super annoying | 06:52 |
derf | No kidding. | 06:52 |
derf | I want to disable the media scanner completely. | 06:52 |
Jef91 | No other way? | 06:52 |
GeneralAntilles | Jef91, SFTP is less work. | 06:52 |
Jef91 | General SFTP? | 06:52 |
GeneralAntilles | Install OpenSSH server | 06:52 |
GeneralAntilles | Connect with an SFTP client. | 06:52 |
derf | GeneralAntilles: That requires setting up USB networking. Or having wifi. | 06:52 |
derf | Which most of the past week or two I have not had. | 06:53 |
Jef91 | Thats way over kill... | 06:53 |
GeneralAntilles | Jef91, it's easier than having to attach it. | 06:53 |
Jef91 | Plus I'm not always connecting to a Linux PC | 06:53 |
GeneralAntilles | You can transfer files to it from anywhere. | 06:53 |
Jef91 | I only need it for USB because it is many gigs | 06:53 |
Jef91 | and wifi is slow... | 06:53 |
Jef91 | And I only have an 8 gig micro sd card | 06:54 |
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derf | Or, when I have wifi, like right now, it will only let a single device connect at a time. | 06:54 |
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Jef91 | Its a shame fat32 doesn't support symlinks | 06:57 |
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Jef91 | that would be the quick fix | 06:57 |
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goodwill | anyone managed to download ovi maps onto the device | 07:31 |
goodwill | I tried following:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=99035a40ee972fcd9db84654cfc17e67&t=38872 | 07:31 |
goodwill | to no luck | 07:31 |
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pronto | that maps app that is included? | 07:31 |
goodwill | yeah | 07:31 |
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goodwill | appearantly its possible to do an offline download | 07:32 |
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pronto | heh odd timing, i so just ran it | 07:32 |
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goodwill | pronto: did it work? | 07:32 |
pronto | yeah o.O why wouldnt it? | 07:32 |
goodwill | cause it does not work for me | 07:32 |
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goodwill | how did you do it? | 07:32 |
pronto | i clicked it | 07:32 |
pronto | and it came up O_o | 07:32 |
goodwill | clicked what? | 07:32 |
pronto | the maps icon | 07:33 |
goodwill | I am trying to use the PC Suite | 07:33 |
pronto | never used that | 07:33 |
goodwill | how did you do it? | 07:33 |
pronto | by cilcking the program that came with the phone , and it just worked | 07:34 |
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goodwill | that does not help | 07:34 |
goodwill | I am not sure what you are talking about | 07:34 |
pronto | i know i'm looing at a map, that has a red dot where i am | 07:34 |
goodwill | thats no offline maps | 07:35 |
goodwill | I am talking about loading all the maps for use offline | 07:35 |
pronto | oh | 07:35 |
pronto | never tried that | 07:35 |
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Proteous | that's no moon | 07:41 |
pronto | you can only do thiw with that method? | 07:41 |
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infobot | -sjansen | 07:43 |
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RST38h | Google is investigating whether one or more of its employees in China helped launch the cyber attack against it last month | 08:05 |
RST38h | ah! the witch hunt! | 08:05 |
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Proteous | why they start burning them at the stake let me know | 08:16 |
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Proteous | or compairing their weight to a ducks... | 08:17 |
Guest63262 | I've uploaded a couple packages; they compiled and said they were fine. However, they are not being imported or showing up in the list. It has been several hours. Who do I need to ping to get this fixed? In fact the lists of packages on the sidebar are out of date. | 08:18 |
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* GeneralAntilles groans at bug #8253 | 08:22 |
povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 Phone heats up when 3G connection established. | 08:22 |
Proteous | lol | 08:24 |
Proteous | that's not a bug, I use it to keep my hands warm | 08:24 |
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ruskie | :) | 08:26 |
ruskie | actually it has it established here and it's not heating up | 08:26 |
ruskie | it does though if I run openvpn | 08:26 |
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RST38h | General: Does it really heat up? =) | 08:33 |
GeneralAntilles | RST38h, not a clue, never used 3G on the goddamn thing. | 08:33 |
thresh | cause it would help surviving the walk for me | 08:33 |
pronto | heh, i cant scroll though a moive (86min long) with the default media player, but with kmplayer i can | 08:34 |
RST38h | General: We finally got 3G here (spot coverage) but I have never seen it heat up | 08:34 |
* GeneralAntilles 's 5-a-Day is done. | 08:34 |
Exconvictriddick | hi | 08:35 |
RST38h | Now, running Transmission makes it heat up really fast, really well | 08:35 |
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Proteous | it heats up when you use a lot of CPU | 08:36 |
Proteous | so I guess it probably is more warm when browsing with 3g then with 2g | 08:36 |
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Proteous | since the browser spends more time rendering and less time waiting for the data | 08:37 |
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Proteous | or if you are streaming video over 3g which you can't do over 2g really | 08:37 |
Exconvictriddick | can anyone recommend a good converter mp4/h264 for 900? | 08:37 |
Proteous | handbrake | 08:37 |
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Proteous | http://handbrake.fr/ | 08:38 |
Exconvictriddick | i tried handbrake. it didnt work.i even followed the guide in maemo.org. | 08:38 |
Proteous | works for me | 08:38 |
GeneralAntilles | Proteous, 3G consumes more power. | 08:38 |
GeneralAntilles | Thus, more heat. | 08:38 |
Proteous | GeneralAntilles: yes | 08:38 |
Exconvictriddick | what plist did you use? did you create your own? | 08:38 |
GeneralAntilles | Proteous, my 5800, for instance, would heat up nearly to scalding just with extended tethering. | 08:39 |
Exconvictriddick | present i meanrt | 08:39 |
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Proteous | GeneralAntilles: yeah, just sitting there not transfering any data it would be fine, but if you are actualy using the 3g connection the phone gets warm, it's unavoidable until we get quantum chips I guess | 08:39 |
Proteous | Exconvictriddick ment preset | 08:39 |
RST38h | Weird | 08:39 |
alongst | Hi All. I just had my calendar and notes/tasks erased. Any ideas where to look for the lost data? I can use a terminal / ssh into the device. | 08:40 |
Wolfie | Exconvictriddick: coding on apple lately, have we? :) | 08:40 |
alongst | I'm using an n900 | 08:40 |
ruskie | gah... just stupid... | 08:40 |
RST38h | General: it is true that 3G uses more power, but to heat up the phone to scalding temperatures? | 08:40 |
ruskie | someone figured out why camera didn't work on ext3 | 08:40 |
RST38h | Weird...May depend on the amount of data transferred though... | 08:41 |
ruskie | stupid permissions on DCIM dir | 08:41 |
Exconvictriddick | no. not real expert in video coding. i just want to play whole dexter hd in my 900. /sigh | 08:41 |
Proteous | bug #ID10T my video card heats up when I play 3d games on my comptuer | 08:42 |
ruskie | :) | 08:42 |
Proteous | causes annoying fan noise | 08:42 |
Proteous | maybe they will fix it in the next driver update | 08:42 |
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chetan | is talk.maemo.org down again? | 08:44 |
TTilus | my desktop effects have been really jerky since last update | 08:44 |
Proteous | it was up? | 08:44 |
TTilus | where to start debugging? | 08:44 |
TTilus | top shows noting suspicious | 08:44 |
chetan | Proteous: lol | 08:44 |
TTilus | (somebody already suggested its reindexing and thus slow) | 08:44 |
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ruskie | chetan, hmm looks like it to me | 08:48 |
chetan | ruskie: hmm.. i can't connect to it. i can ping the server, but can't telnet to port 80 | 08:50 |
ruskie | hmm anyone managed to use a .mkv for hildon-welcome vid? | 08:52 |
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ifreq | sigh | 08:55 |
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ShadowJK_ | RST38h, also wakeups :-) | 08:58 |
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ShadowJK_ | on edge amount of power used is more closely correlated with amount of data transfered | 08:58 |
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mece | good morning maemites | 09:05 |
Proteous | Exconvictriddick: I can give you the preset that I used | 09:05 |
lcukn900 | mornin | 09:05 |
Proteous | Exconvictriddick: it is a custom one I made to encode video for my n97, works fine for the n900 too although I could probably up the resolution and bitrate, still looks great though | 09:05 |
mece | "It's not just you! http://talk.maemo.org looks down from here." | 09:05 |
Proteous | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ | 09:06 |
mece | exactly | 09:06 |
Proteous | :) | 09:06 |
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mece | so what's up with tmo? server move there too? | 09:07 |
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tekojo | mece, looks like it crashed | 09:07 |
mece | tekojo, fun times :) | 09:07 |
goodwill | nice | 09:07 |
tekojo | Reggie just appeared online, so I guess it should be handled soon | 09:07 |
lcukn900 | tekojo, random reboot lol | 09:07 |
goodwill | maemo.org has been getting the smackdown since n900 came out | 09:08 |
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Nathanael_Anders | Tekojo, do you have access to the server that promotes the stuff from the builderbots to extras-devel. It appears to be down also. | 09:09 |
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tekojo | goodwill yes, the loads have been pretty amazing | 09:09 |
ruskie | /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs <-- hmm anyone know what this file should contain? | 09:09 |
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tekojo | Nathanael no, that's Ed and Niels | 09:10 |
goodwill | ruskie: user dirs for the freedesktop .deskto directories? | 09:10 |
Nathanael_Anders | k, thx. | 09:10 |
ruskie | goodwill, hmm | 09:10 |
tekojo | ping X-Fade and he'll notice it | 09:10 |
tekojo | Nathanael what's your package name? | 09:11 |
Nathanael_Anders | Samba, and Truecrypt. | 09:11 |
tekojo | Ooh, big ones | 09:11 |
Nathanael_Anders | But the sidebar shows packages from like much earlier; so I suspect the whole process failed. | 09:12 |
frals | Nathanael_Anders: i noticed it showed up in -devel when browsing on device way before it showed up on the webpage (maemo.org/packages) | 09:12 |
frals | thats what happend to my package anyway | 09:12 |
Nathanael_Anders | Yeah, I got bored with the small ones like Cifs. Had to try some big ones. ;-D | 09:12 |
tekojo | Yes, last one seems to be yesterday at 17:15 UTC | 09:12 |
alongst | For whomever was interested, I found a backup in ~user/.calendar, it is sqlite3, just copying it should work. I was trying syncevolution, may be related, no idea how. Thanks for listening. | 09:19 |
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tekojo | tmo back on-line | 09:24 |
Proteous | don't everyone load it up at once or it will go down again | 09:24 |
Proteous | too late... | 09:25 |
tekojo | it was running an update (what a weird time to do that) | 09:25 |
ShadowJK_ | monday morning would be better ;) | 09:26 |
mece | tekojo, it's never a good time since it's not centered on a particular continent. | 09:26 |
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tekojo | The best time we know is the EET early morning hours | 09:27 |
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goodwill | fantastic reviews ... "maemo is the first device LOSELY based on linux" | 09:31 |
goodwill | marooons | 09:31 |
goodwill | LOOSELY | 09:31 |
ruskie | rofl | 09:32 |
ruskie | I think that would be Android, PalmPre, etc... | 09:33 |
goodwill | pretty much | 09:33 |
ruskie | those are losley based | 09:33 |
ruskie | maemo is a full distro | 09:33 |
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ruskie | gah why does the camera need to be so stupid | 09:33 |
goodwill | also given linux is a kernel even android and palmpre is fully linux | 09:34 |
thresh | orly | 09:34 |
goodwill | I still would like for the camera key not to bring the camera | 09:34 |
thomaz | i forgot in which i file a set the location for the default folders in MyDocs... anybody? | 09:35 |
* goodwill contemplates recompiling camera app | 09:35 |
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ruskie | I would like the camera to NOT be volume based but just point it where you want to store | 09:35 |
goodwill | ruskie: I think you can ... I set it for internal storage only | 09:35 |
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ruskie | goodwill, erm... no you can't | 09:35 |
goodwill | yeah you can | 09:36 |
ruskie | goodwill, it needs a volume | 09:36 |
ruskie | i.e partition | 09:36 |
ruskie | not a directory | 09:36 |
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goodwill | you mean you want to set a folder? | 09:36 |
ruskie | yes | 09:36 |
goodwill | I see | 09:36 |
thomaz | nevermind, found it | 09:36 |
goodwill | ovi maps really make me sad | 09:36 |
goodwill | anyone here use ovi maps 3.0 are they really good? | 09:37 |
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timeless_mbp | goodwill: is that the web app or the thing for other platforms? | 09:39 |
goodwill | timeless_mbp: web app? | 09:39 |
timeless_mbp | is that your final answer? | 09:39 |
goodwill | I am not really sure what you are refering to? | 09:40 |
ruskie | dear nokia... please make the camera app less anal about where it can store images | 09:41 |
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goodwill | I think DCIM folder is the camera standard? | 09:42 |
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ruskie | goodwill, yeah but the app doesn't care about that at this stage... only: I have no volume I can store to | 09:43 |
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ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:43 |
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xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ruskie | /ignore -regexp -pattern "GNAA invites you.*" * <-- for those with irssi | 09:44 |
xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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Corsac | thanks | 09:44 |
ruskie | :) | 09:44 |
pwnguin | why maemo? | 09:44 |
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ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:44 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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pwnguin | oh thats annoying ctcp version | 09:45 |
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eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
lsk | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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ekezilkmki | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
eyuybclyfn | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
yks | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
ktms | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
kehklddyhuen | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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stzz | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
sie | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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kls | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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ruskie | :) | 09:45 |
fhlhh | VERSION GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa | 09:45 |
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ruskie | already on ignore | 09:45 |
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ifreq | sigh | 09:45 |
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Corsac | mode +R would help | 09:45 |
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Corsac | prevent unregistered users to speak | 09:45 |
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go1dfish | ugh not this shit again | 09:45 |
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ruskie | Corsac, that's why they go with CTCPs | 09:45 |
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goodwill | freaking windows bots | 09:46 |
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tigert | /ignore *!*@* CTCPS | 09:46 |
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go1dfish | heh didn't realize the GNAA was still around | 09:46 |
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tigert | that works good for irssi | 09:46 |
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goodwill | so far my xchat scripts are protecting meee ... | 09:47 |
goodwill | hehehe | 09:47 |
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pwnguin | i get a bunch of 'no such nick/channel' messages instead | 09:47 |
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ruskie | I hardly notice anything | 09:47 |
ruskie | pwnguin, that would be one of your scripts I think | 09:47 |
ruskie | I get those as well | 09:47 |
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ruskie | every so often | 09:47 |
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pwnguin | i think they're related | 09:47 |
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goodwill | automatic CTCP ignore scripts | 09:47 |
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ruskie | goodwill, that's what /ignore is for | 09:48 |
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Corsac | [08:48:02] 1 *: CTCPS | 09:48 |
Corsac | didn't remember that :) | 09:48 |
ruskie | :) | 09:48 |
goodwill | ruskie: I got automatic ignoring for too many requests :) | 09:48 |
pwnguin | getting ctcp's from non existent users | 09:48 |
ruskie | goodwill, lol... I just ignore outright | 09:48 |
Fatal | hmm, doesn't freenode use ctcp to probe for bots during connect? | 09:48 |
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ruskie | they're free to do so | 09:49 |
ruskie | and I'm free to ignore the probe | 09:49 |
ruskie | and I don't think it's bots | 09:49 |
ghast | wow i hate these fucking asshole trolls | 09:49 |
ruskie | it's open proxies | 09:49 |
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tigert | whatever, put ctcp on ignore and go on with life | 09:49 |
ruskie | yup | 09:49 |
tigert | its not like ctcp is that useful in daily life anyway | 09:50 |
ruskie | and regex ignore the rest | 09:50 |
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jaska | except.. ctcp action \o/ | 09:50 |
tigert | I mean, the only time I see it is usually with floodbots :) | 09:50 |
tigert | well, duh :) | 09:50 |
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mece | damm | 09:50 |
Fatal | ruskie: I only mentioned it since I've forgotten how it reacts to no replies :) | 09:50 |
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go1dfish | how would one reverse that command | 09:51 |
go1dfish | on irssi /ignore *!*@* CTCPS | 09:51 |
ghast | are you go1dfish from efnet | 09:51 |
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ghast | #anxiety | 09:51 |
pwnguin | go1dfish: type /ignore and get a list | 09:51 |
pwnguin | then /unigore # | 09:51 |
Fatal | ruskie: but yes, you're correct, faq states they don't require it, might be another network I'm confusing that with | 09:51 |
go1dfish | ghast: I haven't been to efnet for quite a while and never frequented it, so likely not | 09:51 |
ghast | are you lying | 09:52 |
go1dfish | cool pwnguin thanks | 09:52 |
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go1dfish | no | 09:52 |
adeus | you can ignore ctcps from freenode only if you want | 09:52 |
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go1dfish | this is me: http://tunetrack.net/go1dfish | 09:52 |
ghast | sup w/ those pubes on your chin holmes | 09:53 |
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go1dfish | they are now shaved, the hair is much shorter now to heh | 09:53 |
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Stskeeps | blah, attack again? | 09:55 |
go1dfish | I'm a lazy mofo, that's why I am a developer | 09:55 |
Stskeeps | oh dear, GNAA is at it again? | 09:55 |
ghast | they already killed lilo | 09:56 |
ghast | why must they bother us again | 09:56 |
go1dfish | Stskeeps: that was my reaction I hadn't seen anything from GNAA since the slashdot css makeover (i.e. when they went away from the horrible table layout) | 09:56 |
Stskeeps | more importantly, why doesn't their IRCd have throttling | 09:56 |
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mece | ghast, perhaps it's easy.. | 09:57 |
ghast | 02:55 < Stskeeps> oh dear, GNAA is at it again? | 09:57 |
ghast | oops mispaste | 09:57 |
go1dfish | freenode has a smaller percentage of windows users (and therefore owned boxes), and script kiddies that most other irc networks, so the admins are lulled into a false sense of security? | 09:57 |
ghast | or maybe they are just incompetent | 09:58 |
Stskeeps | go1dfish: it could also be that ircd coders are a dying breded | 09:58 |
goodwill | irc is usually not a good playground for bots | 09:58 |
Stskeeps | breed | 09:58 |
* Stskeeps got out of it in time | 09:58 |
goodwill | its usually techie infested | 09:58 |
go1dfish | Stskeeps: heh I've never tried to write an ircd, clients on occasion, but never crazy enough to write an ircd | 09:59 |
pwnguin | go1dfish: i figure it's like natural selection | 09:59 |
Myrtti | Or maybe you should concentrate on helping them test the new ircd instead of complaining | 09:59 |
pwnguin | go1dfish: you know how antibiotic strains of staph accumulate in hospitals? | 09:59 |
pwnguin | go1dfish: well, freenode accumulates banhammer resistant botnets | 09:59 |
go1dfish | pwnguin: yeah, they are whats left off after all the drugs/antivirals etc... kill the rest | 09:59 |
go1dfish | and they breed | 09:59 |
Stskeeps | Myrtti: freenode ircd's are another pandora's box of stuff :P | 10:00 |
* Stskeeps sips his coffee | 10:00 |
go1dfish | considering freenode's audience, I'd expect the attacks here to be more sophisticated/interesting, and less frequent | 10:00 |
go1dfish | than say efnet | 10:00 |
Myrtti | Wasnt saying theyre not | 10:00 |
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ghast | hi | 10:00 |
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ghast | did you know that the attacks actually dont work on efnet | 10:01 |
ghast | seems theyre a little more sophisticated | 10:01 |
ghast | and all while handling so many users | 10:01 |
Stskeeps | ghast: nah, they just have seen the type of attacks before and implemented defenses against them | 10:01 |
ghast | what an odd sense of superiority freenode has | 10:01 |
go1dfish | ghast: I was speaking more of the people who chat on freenet moreso than the admins | 10:01 |
go1dfish | due to all the warez etc, efnet has a lot more easy targets | 10:02 |
go1dfish | I would expect that on the whole the userbase (not the admins) are more comp. savvy than the userbase of efnet | 10:02 |
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ghast | why do you expect that | 10:03 |
Stskeeps | go1dfish: i don't think admins are as visible as they are on efnet. | 10:03 |
go1dfish | ghast: because most of the channels, and traffic on freenode is related to development | 10:03 |
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Pit | Hi - I think my N900 is brokent - I just got it | 10:04 |
Stskeeps | Pit: what are the issues? | 10:04 |
Pit | There is no WIFI | 10:04 |
Pit | Laptop shows 5-10 wireless access points, N900 shows none | 10:04 |
Pit | Even if I enter my home router's SSID etc. manually, it doesn't work | 10:05 |
go1dfish | what firmware version are you running? | 10:05 |
go1dfish | Settings -> About | 10:05 |
Pit | 11-42, I think | 10:05 |
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go1dfish | I'd try flashing to 51 or whatever the latest is and see if that helps, but I haven't heard of any issues like that before | 10:06 |
Pit | I tried a bit fiddling with the USB flahers, but didnt get it to work | 10:06 |
Pit | but i was wondering, if this is a hardware defect, shouldn't dmesg show something suspicious? | 10:07 |
adeus | well you should see messages from wl1251 | 10:08 |
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adeus | at least I do when it works | 10:08 |
Pit | I think I saw them, too.... but let me check | 10:09 |
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Pit | Yeah... I have some w11251 messages. The last one is "firmware booted" | 10:10 |
adeus | Then I'd say it works | 10:10 |
Pit | Hmmm.... any idea what I can do to find out what's going on? | 10:11 |
Pit | It's a sad device without wifi | 10:12 |
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goodwill | *sighs* | 10:13 |
goodwill | is it wrong to try to convince people that n900 supports nextel and verizon by using Custom Operator Name Widget | 10:14 |
Proteous | lol | 10:15 |
Proteous | depends, do you like these people? | 10:15 |
Pit | is there a way to use the terminal to see wireless accesspoints? | 10:15 |
Pit | E.g., like "iwlist scan" does under my linux box? | 10:15 |
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L0cutus | re | 10:17 |
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Pit | anyone has an idea? I'm desperate! | 10:18 |
ifreq | go see a doctor | 10:18 |
Pit | I did, but he said "go, chat on #maemo" | 10:18 |
Cy8aer | Pit: (hard way, and I do not know, if it is compiled allready) kismet? | 10:18 |
goodwill | Pit I think you have to install it | 10:18 |
Pit | install kismet, you mean? | 10:19 |
Stskeeps | Pit: did you try with flasher under ubuntu 32-bit or the likes? | 10:19 |
ifreq | wifi should work quite straight from the box | 10:19 |
goodwill | Pit: I think its: apt-get install wireless-tools | 10:19 |
Pit | I used opensuse | 10:19 |
Pit | goodwill: don't I need network for apt-get? | 10:20 |
goodwill | yes ... you can use a usb set up | 10:20 |
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ifreq | Pit: you didnt mention your 3G does not work | 10:20 |
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Pit | ifreq: no, WIFI (WLAN) doesn't work | 10:20 |
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Pit | goodwill: where can i find instructions to set up usb networking? | 10:20 |
goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking | 10:21 |
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ifreq | is the wireless tool package so huge you cannot download it via 3G? | 10:21 |
Pit | thanks - I'll try this! | 10:21 |
Pit | I dont have a data contract | 10:21 |
goodwill | Pit: you'll need rootsh first | 10:22 |
goodwill | Pit: run ifconfig to see if you have a wlan interface? | 10:22 |
Pit | ok | 10:23 |
mece | does romaniausa on tmo seem rather young, or is it just me that think so? | 10:23 |
Pit | what is the path for ifconfig? | 10:23 |
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goodwill | /sbin/ifconfig | 10:23 |
Pit | thx | 10:23 |
goodwill | Pit: put my nick in your questions ... cause otherwise it does not alert me | 10:24 |
Pit | goodwill: o.k. - i have wlan0 and wmaster0 and some others | 10:24 |
ifreq | or you can continue on private goodwill | 10:24 |
goodwill | ifreq: why? | 10:24 |
goodwill | ifreq: maybe if I can not help others can read the discussion and step in | 10:25 |
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goodwill | Pit: so wlan0 being there is already good | 10:26 |
* RST38h reMoos | 10:26 |
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hrw | morning | 10:27 |
mece | hrw, mornin' | 10:27 |
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koala_man | I'm trying to set up mail for exchange with google calendar. after I enter the account details, it sits there for a bit and finally gives some vague message about communication errors with exchange server, but the calendar is synchronized | 10:27 |
RST38h | moorning hrw | 10:28 |
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koala_man | but since it thinks it fails, I can't save the connection or anything | 10:28 |
koala_man | what's up with that? | 10:28 |
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* RST38h is constantly getting invited to join Facebook by people he does not know | 10:29 |
RST38h | Is it some kind of spam Facebook itself is sending out? | 10:29 |
ifreq | nope | 10:29 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: people using their feature to spam people on your email list | 10:29 |
hrw | RST38h: to facebook or to VK? | 10:30 |
Stskeeps | on their address list | 10:30 |
RST38h | Facebook | 10:30 |
RST38h | Sts: Oh =( | 10:30 |
RST38h | OMG bug #4371 is finally fixed!!! | 10:30 |
povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4371 Scrollbar handle in subscriptions list does not look like a handle. | 10:30 |
aquatix | moaning | 10:30 |
goodwill | Pit: how is it going? | 10:31 |
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Pit | goodwill: I'm not sure what to do now | 10:31 |
RST38h | The replacement still vaguely looks like a Mac user turd, but it is definitely better than the previous piece | 10:32 |
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goodwill | Pit: set up usb networking | 10:32 |
goodwill | Pit: then use Application Manager to install rootish | 10:32 |
Pit | goodwill: how can I enable RD mode? | 10:33 |
goodwill | Pit: then run terminal and: "rootsh apt-get install wireless-tools" | 10:33 |
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goodwill | Pit: which maemo version are you running | 10:33 |
Pit | goodwill: Maemo 5 (?) | 10:33 |
goodwill | Pit: Settings > About | 10:34 |
goodwill | Pit: there should be a version | 10:34 |
goodwill | Pit: 42 ? or 51? | 10:34 |
Pit | goodwill: 1.2009.42-11.002 | 10:35 |
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goodwill | Pit: in that case you can enable Red Pill | 10:35 |
goodwill | Pit: but you still need a netwok connection first | 10:35 |
Pit | goodwill: thanks - but how? | 10:35 |
goodwill | Pit: so try the USB tutorial I sent | 10:36 |
goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking | 10:36 |
Pit | goodwill: When I follow usb network instructions, I enter "sudo gainroot", it says "Enable RD mode if you want to break your device" | 10:36 |
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goodwill | hmm | 10:36 |
goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode | 10:36 |
ml-N900 | did you install the rootsh package? | 10:36 |
goodwill | ml-N900: he does not have networking | 10:37 |
goodwill | no wireless | 10:37 |
ml-N900 | no wifi even? | 10:37 |
ml-N900 | ouch | 10:37 |
Stskeeps | did you verify flashing doesn't work? .. | 10:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:37 |
tekojo | goodwill red pill is out as of 1.0.1 | 10:37 |
Pit | ml-900: this is the problem - wifi does not work | 10:37 |
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goodwill | tekojo: he still ahs 1.0 | 10:38 |
goodwill | has | 10:38 |
tekojo | ok | 10:38 |
ml-N900 | Pit: I'd suggest Stskeeps reflash suggestion | 10:39 |
Pit | goodwill: the N900 is brand new. I could try to install new firmware using NSU from nokia europe. But not sure - I'm in the US and I don't want to break warranty, especially since it looks something might be broken...? | 10:39 |
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Stskeeps | Pit: i would just use flasher-3.5 really | 10:40 |
ml-N900 | Pit: so you can't see any access points at all? | 10:40 |
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goodwill | Pit: you can reflash using using the flasher 3.5 | 10:40 |
Pit | ml-N900: no, no access points | 10:41 |
goodwill | Pit: a really stupid question ... is your wlan available? | 10:41 |
goodwill | the route | 10:41 |
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goodwill | router | 10:41 |
* goodwill got to go | 10:41 |
Pit | goodwill: yeah, I can try flasher again... but it didn't work.. some usb error message | 10:41 |
goodwill | Pit: good luck ... people here are helpful | 10:41 |
Pit | goodwill: thanks a log! | 10:41 |
Pit | goodwill: a lot | 10:42 |
goodwill | sorry could not help more :) | 10:42 |
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Pit | ml-N900: yes, i have my own wifi router on, several other devices connect fine. also, lots of access points in the neighbourhood | 10:42 |
ml-N900 | hmm | 10:42 |
adeus | the antenna might be broken | 10:43 |
ml-N900 | yeah, reflash once then RMA | 10:43 |
Pit | adeus: yeah, that's a good point | 10:43 |
cosmo | off-topic question, but i'm getting lines like this in my irssi's server window: 09:47 [freenode] -!- crolqsdumxbe: No such nick/channel | 10:43 |
Pit | ml-N900: o.k., I'll try... | 10:43 |
Stskeeps | cosmo: attacks on freenode, disable ctcp responses | 10:43 |
cosmo | is this normal and any ideas what might be causing it? | 10:43 |
Pit | ml-N900: too bad I was so much looking forward to getting this | 10:44 |
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ml-N900 | Pit: yeah that does suck. but sometimes lemons pop up | 10:44 |
cosmo | Stskeeps: ok, thanks | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | Pit: grab a ubuntu livecd, 32-bit and try there | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | usb error is usually on the host. | 10:44 |
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Pit | Stskeeps: o.k., I can do this. But I have a Windoze laptop, couldn't I use the NSU? | 10:45 |
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Stskeeps | Pit: we've used flasher in community for ages and sometimes it is less buggy than NSU :P | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | is it a 64-bit or 32-bit laptop? | 10:46 |
Pit | Stskeeps: o.k., then I should use flasher | 10:46 |
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Stskeeps | yeah, and grab a fiasco image from tablets-dev.nokia.com | 10:46 |
Pit | Stskeeps: laptop is 64-bit, but Windoze is 32-bit. Linux is 64-bit | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | right, 32-bit windows should do the trick | 10:46 |
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Pit | Stskeeps: o.k. - thanks for your help | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | Pit: let me know if there's any problems | 10:47 |
Pit | Stskeeps: O.k. will do | 10:47 |
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go1dfish | Pit: does bluetooth work? | 10:48 |
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go1dfish | Pit: on the n900 wifi and bt share an antenna | 10:48 |
Pit | go1dfish: Didnt try | 10:48 |
Pit | go1dfish: Have never really used bluetooth for anything | 10:49 |
go1dfish | cool, well if it doesn't work after the flash, try out bt and see what happens | 10:49 |
Pit | go1dfish: good idea! | 10:49 |
go1dfish | yeah I don't use it much either | 10:49 |
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go1dfish | antenna issue is the first thing that comes to mind that could be hardware problem and have dmesg still show up right | 10:50 |
rohit22 | hi | 10:50 |
Proteous | (after 10 hours of troubleshooting we find out Pit's n900 was in offline mode) | 10:50 |
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Pit | go1dfish: makes sense, although its the least desirable one - sending it back and waiting forever until i get a replacement - sucks | 10:50 |
rohit22 | hello all | 10:51 |
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Proteous | hi | 10:51 |
Pit | Proteous: what's offline mode? ;-) | 10:51 |
Proteous | :P | 10:51 |
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rohit22 | i m new in maemo... i need u ppl help ..i want to know how to get start with mameo.. | 10:52 |
Proteous | get started doing what? | 10:52 |
ifreq | rohit22: you can start going thru maemo.org talk.maemo.org | 10:52 |
juhjokel | rohit22: Regarding software development? | 10:52 |
rohit22 | yes | 10:52 |
juhjokel | rohit22: http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html | 10:53 |
juhjokel | sdk installer | 10:53 |
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juhjokel | rohit22: Of course could ask first, if you are using linux :) | 10:53 |
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sejo | I cannot seem to install the maemo update | 10:55 |
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ifreq | sejo: please explain more. | 10:55 |
sejo | always states I have not enough memory on target | 10:55 |
sejo | how can I fix that? | 10:55 |
ifreq | sejo: then clean up some installed apps | 10:55 |
sejo | I uninstalled a lot of apps already | 10:55 |
ifreq | your root fs is full | 10:55 |
sejo | got 18 M free | 10:55 |
ifreq | uninstall more | 10:55 |
mece | sejo, http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space | 10:56 |
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Hukka | sejo: Also run apt-get clean | 10:57 |
Hukka | sejo: At least in my case HAM hadn't done that automatically, I got 17 megs extra space | 10:57 |
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Hukka | sejo: And reboot the tablet, as the file system is compressing and is smallest just after booting | 10:58 |
Exconvictriddick | how do you press ctrl F7 on n900? | 10:59 |
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Gadgetoid_mbp | Kapow! | 11:02 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:07 |
Jaffa | X-Fade: ping | 11:08 |
X-Fade | Jaffa: Here. | 11:08 |
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Gadgetoid | morning | 11:08 |
Jaffa | X-Fade: Is /packages/ known to be broken? (Not updated since 2010-01-15 08:05, AFAICT) | 11:08 |
Nathanael_Anders | X-fade, the process to move files from the builders to the extra-devel seems to be down. | 11:09 |
X-Fade | Jaffa: The build part needs a bit of work for the new situation still. | 11:09 |
X-Fade | Jaffa: And the import part is down because we're working on the maintenance server. | 11:10 |
X-Fade | Jaffa: But that is only for a few hours. | 11:10 |
Jaffa | X-Fade: Righto. ETA? (I'll send a mail to maemo-developers) | 11:10 |
X-Fade | Jaffa: Depends on the agenda today. There is a lot of stuff going on ;) | 11:10 |
woglinde | hi x-fade | 11:10 |
X-Fade | Anybody seen this before? | 11:11 |
X-Fade | 23:56:48 up 14665 days, 18:06, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.91 | 11:11 |
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Stskeeps | X-Fade: maemo.org is older than any of us? | 11:11 |
X-Fade | Is this clock counting backwards or what? :) | 11:11 |
woglinde | *g* | 11:11 |
Stskeeps | 40 years uptime, not bad | 11:12 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:12 |
ruskie | :) | 11:12 |
woglinde | x-fade is this error because moving from builders dont works? | 11:12 |
X-Fade | woglinde: No, will need to look into that. | 11:12 |
sejo | mece: thanks! | 11:12 |
sejo | Hukka: thanks | 11:13 |
Hukka | sejo: Which one helped you? | 11:13 |
sejo | the link and yours is good info :p | 11:14 |
sejo | well the dist-upgrade is renning | 11:14 |
sejo | bight brick my phone :p | 11:14 |
sejo | s/bight/might/ | 11:14 |
infobot | sejo meant: might brick my phone :p | 11:14 |
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arachnist | X-Fade: i had an opensolaris virtual machine reporting that kind of uptime... after several reboots | 11:16 |
X-Fade | arachnist: this is a kvm. | 11:16 |
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arachnist | mine was vmware-server | 11:16 |
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sejo | now to get the dpkg tool onto my fedora so I can start playing :p | 11:18 |
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sejo | hmm appears that the new nokia version made it quicker? | 11:22 |
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sejo | maemo version I mear | 11:22 |
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Corsac | for which value of “new”? | 11:24 |
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X-Fade | Nathanael_Anders: Issue should be resolved now. | 11:37 |
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woglinde | thanks x-fade | 11:40 |
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pupnik | good morning woglinde | 11:41 |
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woglinde | jo pupnik | 11:44 |
vanksi | has anyone managed to get vpnc-gui's autoconnect to work? | 11:45 |
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vanksi | and also, how could i make a shortcut to bash shell | 11:49 |
arachnist | xterm -e bash | 11:50 |
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Stskeeps | how on earth can i have two jehovas witnesses visits in two weeks | 12:03 |
X-Fade | Stskeeps: You showed interest the first time? | 12:03 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: "not interested" "slam door" | 12:03 |
adeus | you should've asked what's the point since your heaven is full | 12:04 |
Ave | a challenge | 12:04 |
ruskie | lol | 12:04 |
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ruskie | I tend to listen to all these people that come to the door | 12:04 |
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ruskie | let them talk and talk and talk | 12:04 |
ruskie | then say not interested | 12:04 |
ruskie | and slam the door | 12:04 |
Stskeeps | "let me introduce you to cheap polish vodka and strippoker" | 12:05 |
ruskie | I do the same for telemarketers | 12:05 |
ruskie | works like a treat | 12:05 |
adeus | or about the whacky predictions they make | 12:05 |
adeus | and why they're always false | 12:05 |
ruskie | they get to have their pitch and after that they never call again as they see I'm a waste of time :) | 12:05 |
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ruskie | and I always either sound or look really interested | 12:06 |
fatal^ | Stskeeps: this worked for me (didn't do it on purpose): show basic interest first time based on the assumption that you get rid of them faster by letting them say whatever they came for, promise to read up on the litterature they hand out until next time, next time open up using "I give blood donations" t-shirt..... Resulted in "You're not very interested, are you?" and never having any visits again. :) | 12:06 |
Pit | go1dfish: still there? | 12:07 |
Pit | go1dfish: bluetooth works | 12:07 |
Pit | go1dfish: updated, but doesnt help | 12:07 |
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TTilus | my desktop effects (app change, desktop slide, background fade on menu, scroll) have been jerky and jumpy since last system upgrade, any idea why? how to debug? top shows >95% idle and nothing suspicious and scrolling/effects still jump randomly, but at least once every single time | 12:11 |
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felipec | X-Fade: hello | 12:22 |
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X-Fade | felipec: Hi | 12:23 |
felipec | X-Fade: any update regarding the missing dependencies issue? would updating the package again help? | 12:23 |
* thresh wants python-xcbgen in repos | 12:24 |
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woglinde | thresh whats the problem? | 12:24 |
woglinde | take debain package optify it | 12:24 |
woglinde | and upload it | 12:24 |
felipec | woglinde: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/telepathy-msn-pecan/0.1.0~rc2-0maemo6 | 12:24 |
felipec | the build system added those missing dependencies, not me | 12:25 |
thresh | woglinde: the problem is that libxcb source package has that binary package but it's not published | 12:25 |
thresh | i have no idea why | 12:25 |
thresh | and i need that for vlc | 12:25 |
Guest85647 | hi! has anybody the extra plugins installed for conversations. i can not create an account for icq. | 12:25 |
X-Fade | felipec: We're probably going back to 1.0 SDK soon. | 12:25 |
X-Fade | felipec: And rebuild everything submitted after 1.1 sdk release. | 12:25 |
woglinde | x-fade was quicker | 12:25 |
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felipec | X-Fade: so in the mean time there's no way I can promote my package? | 12:26 |
X-Fade | felipec: No, it will be removed behind the scenes and rebuilt. | 12:26 |
felipec | crap | 12:26 |
X-Fade | This is the best thing we can do for end users. | 12:27 |
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woglinde | thresh uh what binary package? | 12:27 |
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woglinde | thresh apt-get source libxcb? | 12:28 |
felipec | X-Fade: yeah, but in the meantime my users need to enable extras-devel just to use this package | 12:28 |
thresh | woglinde: oh, sorry, i was wrong with the source package name. It is xcb-proto, of course. | 12:29 |
woglinde | felipec I am sure they will solve it that week | 12:29 |
woglinde | I think your user can just wait this couple of days | 12:29 |
X-Fade | felipec: You have to put your misery in the background on this. | 12:29 |
thresh | woglinde: yeah, i did apt-get source xcb-proto and rebuilt that package and got python-xcbgen binary deb. I wonder why the latter is not available by default, without rebuilding, though. | 12:30 |
X-Fade | It should not break for end-users. | 12:30 |
woglinde | thresh ???? | 12:30 |
thresh | duh. | 12:30 |
X-Fade | I know that is a pain, but there is not more I can do. | 12:30 |
X-Fade | I didn't release the sdk :) | 12:30 |
felipec | woglinde: yes, but I will need to keep checking until I see it's solved, and then click on promote | 12:30 |
woglinde | x-fade the left hand? | 12:30 |
woglinde | or the right? | 12:31 |
woglinde | epic fail of to low communication | 12:31 |
X-Fade | felipec: There will be a post when everything is done. | 12:31 |
X-Fade | woglinde: Well the problem has always been there. | 12:31 |
felipec | X-Fade: ah, cool :) | 12:31 |
X-Fade | But in diablo we just don't cared. | 12:31 |
X-Fade | Which resulted in uninstallable apps in Extras. | 12:31 |
X-Fade | Better prevent that now, we should be more professional as a community too. | 12:32 |
thresh | okay, here we go. There is a source package named xcb-proto. debian/control in it it has two binary packages: xcb-proto and python-xcbgen. Latter is not available on public repos. | 12:32 |
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X-Fade | Works for me is not enough ;) | 12:32 |
AdmiralSausage | Guest85647, I can create an account in ICQ but it never oconnects. same thing? pidgin rorks jufst fine | 12:32 |
mece | where's the random reboot bug? | 12:32 |
Stskeeps | thresh: python isn't part of SDK i think so | 12:32 |
Guest85647 | AdmiralSausage: Same problem here | 12:33 |
thresh | Stskeeps: yeah, that's why http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=python returns so many 'python' packages. | 12:33 |
Guest85647 | pidgin worksfor sure. | 12:33 |
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jjo | python is in the repositories, but it's not officially supported | 12:33 |
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Stskeeps | ah | 12:33 |
jjo | also we do not provide all binaries for all source packages on purpose | 12:34 |
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jjo | sometimes it's a mistake but not always | 12:34 |
Stskeeps | worth exploring in a bug report maybe, jjo? | 12:34 |
jjo | possibly | 12:34 |
thresh | jjo: how do i know if it is? | 12:34 |
AdmiralSausage | Guest85647, I don't use ICQ much so not a big deal for me. wierd that pidgin is ok as it's the same library underneath. | 12:34 |
jjo | but usually we try to provide the binaries that are on the device | 12:35 |
Stskeeps | thresh: submit a bug on it against SDK, missing binary package and let's see what it concludes with. it can be a plus for you that it is a package you need but you can't include in extras cos it's in SDK | 12:35 |
AdmiralSausage | IM is a huge battery drainer for me so I can't generally stay online anyway | 12:35 |
thresh | the lack of python-xcbgen is the most annoying thing because i cant build VLC for maemo without it | 12:35 |
thresh | Stskeeps: okay. | 12:35 |
Stskeeps | and mention your specific use case | 12:36 |
jjo | if a developer developes a piece of software against binaries in the SDK it would be nice if it was pretty likely to work on the device also | 12:36 |
jjo | without extra binaries | 12:36 |
wazd | hello maemo | 12:36 |
thresh | it will. | 12:36 |
woglinde | hi wazd | 12:36 |
woglinde | libnl1 is problem too | 12:36 |
felipec | AdmiralSausage: it depends which telepathy CMs you use for IM | 12:36 |
jjo | and without the temptation to add the SDK repositories on the device to satisfy these dependencies == bad idea | 12:36 |
felipec | I have no problems staying online all the time | 12:37 |
Guest85647 | Admiralsausage: Yes. So i think I will use pidgin in the future as I already do. | 12:37 |
thresh | yeah, of course. the plan is to minimize vlc external dependancies. | 12:37 |
Stskeeps | thresh: why does it need python-xcb btw? | 12:37 |
Stskeeps | (out of curiousity) | 12:37 |
frals | ah, only sent 75 MMS the last month, wasnt that bad ;D | 12:37 |
jjo | if you need extra binaries in the SDK you'll most propably also understand that you have to provide them for the device also | 12:37 |
thresh | Stskeeps: to build some contrib libraries vlc needs to be linked with. | 12:38 |
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Guest85647 | AdmiralSausage: I have the same power problems if i enable skype. Better stay offline with IMs. | 12:38 |
woglinde | thresh disable them for now | 12:38 |
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woglinde | or you really needs the python-bindings? | 12:38 |
AdmiralSausage | felipec: got the "pidgin protocols plugin" so I'd assume they were using the same libpurple as pidgin itself (not checked though) | 12:39 |
felipec | AdmiralSausage: yeah, they should... I think most libpurple plugins are poorly developed... but it also depends which ones exactly you use | 12:39 |
renato | Hi! I've got my Nokia N900 bricked. I can't make it on Flashing mode (that's with the usb signal on the right upper corner). Cananyone help? | 12:40 |
Guest85647 | So in generally the icq plugin is broken. | 12:40 |
Guest85647 | Maybe I go to file a bugreport | 12:40 |
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felipec | Guest85647: you can try on Pidgin's tracker, but I wouldn't have much hope on getting it fixed | 12:42 |
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AdmiralSausage | Guest85647: looks like it. I can add the account, but can't sign in even with the same settings as pidgin. just stays on 'not signed in' | 12:42 |
Guest85647 | hm... but at least the developers get a msg that it's broken. | 12:42 |
Guest85647 | Yes. same for me. | 12:43 |
felipec | wait, so it works in Pidgin on the N900, but not telepathy? | 12:43 |
Guest85647 | yes. | 12:43 |
AdmiralSausage | felipec: yes | 12:43 |
Guest85647 | pidgin works fine. | 12:43 |
felipec | then it's a telepathy-haze issue | 12:44 |
pupnik | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware renato | 12:44 |
felipec | you can try disabling the account, then on a terminal: HAZE_PERSIST=1 HAZE_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-haze > ~/debug.log | 12:44 |
Guest85647 | so i should file the bug against telpathy-haze | 12:45 |
felipec | Guest85647: I would file it against telepathy-extras: http://maemo.org/packages/view/telepathy-extras/ | 12:45 |
felipec | but the debug log would be very useful | 12:46 |
Guest85647 | ah ok! I will do it later on. | 12:46 |
Guest85647 | Includung the log | 12:46 |
aep | hm constant 25% cpu usage when idle. is that normal? | 12:46 |
X-Fade | aep: How do you measure that? | 12:47 |
renato | Pupnik: thanx, i've tried that but it doesn't go into Flash mode. Is there a way to make Win7 work as winXP? | 12:47 |
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aep | X-Fade: htop | 12:47 |
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aep | over ssh | 12:48 |
X-Fade | aep: Which app is running on top? | 12:48 |
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wjt | Is there an officially-sanctioned way to file bugs against the Ovi Store? | 12:48 |
pupnik | renato: i don't know how to use windows | 12:48 |
Guest85647 | thx for your help! | 12:48 |
aep | X and hildonsomething | 12:48 |
aep | hildon-desktop | 12:49 |
X-Fade | aep: Some applet active? | 12:49 |
aep | applet= widget? | 12:49 |
X-Fade | yes | 12:49 |
aep | yes, lots | 12:49 |
X-Fade | start with disabling those ;) | 12:49 |
aep | rss, weather, calendar | 12:49 |
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X-Fade | To see if that stops it. | 12:49 |
aep | they draw even when idle? oO | 12:50 |
X-Fade | They should not. | 12:50 |
aep | but going to try, yeah | 12:50 |
kryptoz | Hi! How do I install a .deb package in /home/user/MyDocs or any other partition other than root partition ? I wanted to install python and qt | 12:50 |
renato | Pupnik: thanx again, seems that i'll have to keep on searching.... =\ | 12:50 |
X-Fade | aep: But that would be a good thing to find out ;) | 12:50 |
felipec | aep: also try dimming the screen | 12:50 |
pupnik | renato: make sure device is really off before pluggin in? remove battery to make sure? | 12:50 |
felipec | er, blanking | 12:50 |
aep | felipec: actually... i just figured that does it | 12:51 |
aep | its all idle now, except dbus taking 10% | 12:51 |
aep | oh and htop itself.. | 12:51 |
felipec | htop takes *a lot* of cpu | 12:51 |
aep | this thing doesnt have acpi has it? would be interesting to check with powertop | 12:51 |
X-Fade | Also notice that 25 of cpu in low frequency is different from 25% at full power. | 12:52 |
aep | since battery lasts not even a day | 12:52 |
aep | yeah | 12:52 |
X-Fade | There is powertop. | 12:52 |
aep | i'm more interested in wakups anyway | 12:52 |
aep | really? where | 12:52 |
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X-Fade | sdk/tools repo, IIRC. | 12:52 |
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aep | hm i have tools, but cant find powertop | 12:53 |
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renato | Pupnik: i'll try connecting without the battery in. Do you know if the sim card needs to be in? | 12:54 |
AdmiralSausage | felipec: can't disable the accout as such as it doesn't have the checkbox. I think because it's never been signed in before. | 12:54 |
pupnik | i meant temporarily remove battery to ensure it is off. | 12:54 |
pupnik | i don't know if sim card affects flashing | 12:55 |
AdmiralSausage | felipec: talking about icq plugin again | 12:55 |
SpeedEvil | renato: can't remove bat and have it work | 12:55 |
AdmiralSausage | felipec: I can see plenty of activity in that log file when I sign into (eg) MSN. but when I attempt to sign in to ICQ, the account dialog disappears and nothin is written to the log. | 12:56 |
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aep | according to google, powertop should be built in, but i dont have it. oO | 12:59 |
AdmiralSausage | aep: i found that too. I got some guy to email it to me from this forum. not ideal, and noone could work out why i didn!t have it! | 13:01 |
aep | i ordered mine from the us 3 weeks ago. you? | 13:01 |
renato | SpeedEvil: it seems the battery needs to be fully loaded for the flasher to work. Damn phone wont charged when fully bricked. Have to wait till i get my hands on a 5800 battery as i can't find anyone with the n900... | 13:01 |
AdmiralSausage | uk, early december | 13:02 |
aep | might be broken formware. would explain all the crashes... | 13:02 |
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renato | Thanx anyway guys! | 13:02 |
aep | AdmiralSausage: US version too? | 13:02 |
AdmiralSausage | aep: doubt it, i think it just doesn't ship with it. other people (i think) hat tetsting fw versions | 13:02 |
aep | oh uk | 13:02 |
aep | hm | 13:03 |
SpeedEvil | renato: it will charge | 13:03 |
SpeedEvil | renato: it just won't charge at more than 100mA from a computer, or 500mA from the charger | 13:03 |
aep | testing might be more stable then what i have here :/ | 13:03 |
SpeedEvil | accorfding at least to the l3/l4 manual | 13:03 |
aep | any change of bricking when running testing? | 13:03 |
AdmiralSausage | aep have you enabled extras devel & testing and apt-get install powertop? it might have been packaged since | 13:04 |
aep | not yet. i am about to | 13:04 |
SpeedEvil | it's not. | 13:05 |
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SpeedEvil | apt-get install powertop - dose nothing | 13:05 |
aep | ew :( | 13:05 |
skon | Is it possible to install xpdf or evince. Can't seem to wrap text in default acroread reader | 13:05 |
aep | well i'll go compile it myself then later | 13:05 |
SpeedEvil | skon: err - that's the whole point of pdf | 13:05 |
aep | can't be that hard, its just linux-arm isnt it? | 13:05 |
woglinde | http://maemo.org/packages/view/powertop/ | 13:05 |
SpeedEvil | skon: pdf is a fixed page format, you can't wrap it | 13:06 |
AdmiralSausage | aep: will sent it direct to you if you're comfortable with it | 13:06 |
woglinde | same as with libnl | 13:06 |
SpeedEvil | Convert to html or something, and then ... | 13:06 |
skon | SpeedEvil: Yeah might have to do that | 13:06 |
aep | AdmiralSausage: sure. | 13:06 |
woglinde | are you need to be root | 13:07 |
skon | used to be able to wrap text in previous pdf reader | 13:07 |
woglinde | apt-get install rootsh | 13:07 |
woglinde | sudo gainroot | 13:07 |
woglinde | powertop | 13:07 |
aep | woglinde: you're talking to me? | 13:07 |
woglinde | sure | 13:07 |
aep | i am root. and there is no powertop binary anywhere | 13:07 |
aep | find / -name powertop == nothing | 13:07 |
Remosi | theres never been powertop on my n900 either | 13:08 |
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woglinde | /sbin/powertop | 13:08 |
aep | woglinde: nope | 13:08 |
aep | all i have there is poweroff | 13:08 |
woglinde | as root too? | 13:08 |
go1dfish | Pit: sounds like it's time to contact nokia | 13:08 |
Remosi | aep, well... poweroff would help save significant amounts of energy on your phone..... | 13:09 |
aep | woglinde: yes | 13:09 |
woglinde | hm pr1.1 | 13:09 |
woglinde | maybee | 13:09 |
aep | what? | 13:09 |
woglinde | the updated version | 13:09 |
aep | well i got mine from the second wave | 13:09 |
woglinde | did you update it to pr1.1? | 13:10 |
woglinde | and which country? | 13:10 |
aep | err, i did update it to something, yes | 13:10 |
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aep | its a US device | 13:10 |
woglinde | maybee thats the problwm | 13:10 |
woglinde | hm ah | 13:10 |
Remosi | I have a Pr1.1, it is a US device (although I'm physically in NZ) | 13:10 |
woglinde | I remember slightly some other us user didnt have powertop | 13:10 |
woglinde | maybee powertop cannt scope with the cdma modem | 13:11 |
woglinde | but that are all wild guesses | 13:11 |
woglinde | vi VDVsx | 13:11 |
aep | um its a different modem? | 13:11 |
aep | crap | 13:11 |
woglinde | sure | 13:11 |
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woglinde | cdma vs. gsm | 13:11 |
go1dfish | woglinde: no | 13:11 |
go1dfish | there is no cdma version of the n900 | 13:12 |
X-Fade | woglinde: there is no cdma modem ;) | 13:12 |
go1dfish | the us model is gsm like the rest of them | 13:12 |
aep | think i have gsm. at least it _works_ here and all we have in .de is gsm | 13:12 |
woglinde | uh? | 13:12 |
VDVsx | woglinde, I'm not a file, you can't open me with vi :D | 13:12 |
woglinde | lol | 13:12 |
go1dfish | there is WCDMA, but thats a whole different thing (3g for some gsm networks) | 13:12 |
go1dfish | and all n900's support wcdma | 13:12 |
woglinde | I thought without cdm you are lost in us | 13:12 |
AdmiralSausage | VDVsx: everything is a file! | 13:12 |
aep | woglinde: i'm not in the US :P | 13:12 |
go1dfish | the only hardware difference I'm aware of across regions on the n900 is the keyboard layout/print | 13:13 |
go1dfish | woglinde: in the rural areas yeah, cdma is all there is | 13:13 |
aep | and the .de keyboard sucks | 13:13 |
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go1dfish | in more civilized/dense areas gsm coverage is decent/getting better | 13:13 |
woglinde | hm but still stands usversions missing powertop | 13:14 |
aep | AdmiralSausage: nope that binary won't work D: | 13:14 |
aep | status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon | 13:14 |
go1dfish | I'm pretty sure mine has powertop | 13:14 |
AdmiralSausage | aep: really? did you run it a second time? | 13:15 |
aep | yes | 13:15 |
aep | uh wait, it works | 13:15 |
renato | SpeedEvil: i have tried a lots of ways to falsh the phone and read many many posts about ppl tryng to unbrick it. My last hope before taking it back to the shop is that the battery isn't fully loaded. I left it charging through the whole night and still it didn't charge. I hope (if i can fix it) that this thing won't happen very often as i need the phone to work properly cause i'm always travelling and can't waste much time unbrick | 13:15 |
aep | its just different then the powertop i know | 13:15 |
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aep | huh wait, usbhost? | 13:16 |
aep | this thing has an usb host mode? | 13:17 |
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aep | well powertop tells me nothing | 13:23 |
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aep | other then that there are lots of wakups | 13:24 |
aep | but from what... no clue | 13:24 |
X-Fade | There are tools fo that in tools, iirc. | 13:25 |
thresh | woglinde: well vlc is totally useless without libxcb, so i really need python-xcbgen :) the one in standard repositories is crippled. | 13:25 |
go1dfish | aep: the drivers support usbhost, the hardware/circuitry does not as I understand it | 13:25 |
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aep | well there is an irq for it! | 13:26 |
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aep | i guess i'm just reading this all wrong. | 13:26 |
aep | the powertop i have on my desktop is easier | 13:27 |
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SpeedEvil | go1dfish: not quite true as I understand it - the lowest level driver does not support the chip in question for host mode. According to the readings of datasheets and kernels I've done | 13:37 |
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SpeedEvil | renato: how are you verifying it diddn't charge? | 13:37 |
go1dfish | honestly I'm afraid to do too much connecting/disconnecting on the microusb port | 13:37 |
xorAxAx | go1dfish: i smoothed down the plug | 13:38 |
go1dfish | xorAxAx: yeah me to | 13:38 |
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go1dfish | lots of discussion about it on this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37107 | 13:39 |
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xorAxAx | "fwiw the cases reported here were pre-production devices. This problem was addressed in the final sales devices. " | 13:44 |
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go1dfish | keep reading | 13:47 |
go1dfish | there have been reports on production devices as well | 13:47 |
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xorAxAx | too much noise in that thread | 13:49 |
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tgalal_ | HI, is it possible to show that a person is typing in conversations? like for msn or google talk | 13:50 |
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lardman | morning | 13:54 |
SpeedEvil | morning | 13:55 |
lardman | X-Fade: did you see the email from Thomas Tanner re upload rights? Would you mind taking a look at that as we'd like to get some code into the repo asap. Thanks | 13:55 |
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lardman | exciting exam invigilations! /me goes to find a coffee to wake up | 13:55 |
SpeedEvil | It's gotta be exciting - it's got vigil in there! | 13:56 |
X-Fade | lardman: Will look at it after lunch. | 13:56 |
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KenYoung | X-Fade, Are you in charge of the maemo garage website? | 13:58 |
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lardman | X-Fade: thanks | 14:04 |
lardman | X-Fade: uername is tanner if that's of use | 14:05 |
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wazd | X-Fade: maemo.org works like a charm, great job :) | 14:06 |
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tekojo | wazd X-Fade and feri have been working like crazed lemmings to make things good | 14:17 |
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wazd | tekojo: I can only imagine :) | 14:18 |
aep | hm how does maemo find windows shares? it lists my gfs vista but not my samba share | 14:20 |
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alterego | aep: netbios | 14:20 |
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aep | ah | 14:20 |
alterego | aep: you should be able to see it if you enter the address manually however. | 14:21 |
pupnik | thing about websites is people tend to assume everything always works, when they are often actually complex applications managing a lot of (often dirty) data | 14:21 |
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aep | alterego: and where do i enter that? | 14:25 |
aep | the file manager doesnt seem to have any option to enter something | 14:25 |
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hrw | maemo filemanager? it is parody of application | 14:25 |
hrw | s/filemanager/files/ | 14:25 |
infobot | hrw meant: maemo files? it is parody of application | 14:25 |
aep | there isnt any other | 14:25 |
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aep | i doubt you used fuse for this so i can just do it manually | 14:26 |
aep | oh well, going to copy it using usb... | 14:27 |
wazd | all: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=481778&postcount=46 | 14:28 |
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wazd | any help is much appreciated | 14:28 |
pupnik | what color mess where wazd ? on some user theme? | 14:30 |
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koala_man | I can sync contacts and calendar with google just fine until I change the icon of a contact, then it fails. it appears completely reproducible. is this a known issue? | 14:35 |
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mtd | koala_man: I'm going to try that now. How do you fix it (delete the MfE account and re-set-up?)? | 14:37 |
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fcrozat | mtd: no need to delete | 14:38 |
fcrozat | try to force a full resync | 14:38 |
mtd | fcrozat: thx | 14:38 |
fcrozat | you might need to clear your calendar on n900 | 14:38 |
koala_man | no, re-setup fails too. doing a full resync fails. changing the contact icon back worked a few times | 14:38 |
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fcrozat | (I usually need to do so when sync breaks, like when you try to merge contact) | 14:38 |
fcrozat | koala_man: did you clear all your calendar data ? | 14:38 |
wazd | pupnik: well, my Marina theme has it :) | 14:39 |
wazd | pupnik: I don't know what template color does what | 14:39 |
koala_man | fcrozat: I did rm -r .calendar | 14:39 |
pupnik | ahh context | 14:39 |
fcrozat | koala_man: well, removing them with UI might be better (just a guess) ;) | 14:39 |
koala_man | I didn't figure out how to delete everything at once | 14:40 |
koala_man | but I did go into the calendar to verify that nothing was there | 14:40 |
fcrozat | koala_man: try to delete the n900 calendar, it will complain "can't delete calendar, want to delete all entries instead ?" :) | 14:40 |
mtd | koala_man: to delete everything from the calender, I attemp to delete the calendar itself. The Calendar app then asks if you want to delete all the events instead (for the N900 calendar). | 14:41 |
mtd | fcrozat: jinx | 14:41 |
mtd | :) | 14:41 |
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koala_man | how do you delete the calendar itself? | 14:41 |
fcrozat | koala_man: you can't (because it is the system calendar) but it will clear all entries | 14:41 |
koala_man | I mean, how do you try to delete it | 14:41 |
mtd | koala_man: Calendar -> Settings -> Edit calendars | 14:42 |
koala_man | ah | 14:42 |
redeeman | have anyone precompiled the pidgin-otr plugin for maemo? | 14:43 |
hrw | redeeman: it is in extras(something) | 14:44 |
redeeman | ah ok | 14:44 |
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gks200 | hi | 14:46 |
hrw | zeenix: rygel question I have | 14:47 |
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jebba | qgil: "Distributing devices to community developers around Maemo, KDE & Debian - BAU" What's BAU? | 14:50 |
jebba | redeeman: ya, i did | 14:51 |
frals | "business as usual"? | 14:51 |
jebba | i think it hit extras-devel heh. If it made it thru the builder | 14:51 |
jebba | ah | 14:51 |
gks200 | hi guys, i have problem in installing maemo SDK. someone please help Documentation/Maemo 5 Final SDK Installation Contents [hide] 1 Introduction 1.1 What is not i | 14:51 |
gks200 | hi guys, i have problem in installing maemo SDK. someone please help | 14:51 |
roide | what problem ? | 14:52 |
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Stskeeps | jebba: it's good he's working on distributing devices, device queue must be starting then | 14:52 |
jebba | probably the akamai "last mile" problem, if that hasnt been fixed yet. | 14:53 |
hrw | did someone finally built some kind of file manager other then MC for maemo5? | 14:53 |
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jebba | what device queue? It's early, i really need things explained ;) | 14:53 |
jebba | ls, cp, mv' | 14:53 |
jebba | ;) | 14:53 |
hrw | jebba: haha | 14:54 |
Stskeeps | jebba: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Developer_Device_Queue | 14:54 |
zeenix | hrw: yes | 14:54 |
zeenix | hrw: in a meeting so could be slow in replying | 14:54 |
mtd | telepath-/win 11 | 14:54 |
DocScrutinizer51 | jebba: mooin | 14:55 |
hrw | zeenix: I can wait | 14:55 |
gks200 | i am able to install xephyr, but not able to run it | 14:56 |
DocScrutinizer51 | hrw: what's wrong with mc? | 14:56 |
hrw | DocScrutinizer51: suxx in portrait? | 14:56 |
DocScrutinizer51 | k | 14:56 |
redeeman | how might i disable the camera sound? | 14:57 |
DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: shutter or recordng? | 14:57 |
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redeeman | for normal picture taking | 14:57 |
hrw | redeeman: cd /usr/share/sounds/;rm *cam*wav or sth like that | 14:57 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | replace the audio file by a link to dev/null | 14:58 |
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redeeman | might it not get upset when it cant read? | 14:58 |
Shadikka | redeeman: switch to silent mode | 14:58 |
redeeman | Shadikka: ah, didn't test that :) | 14:59 |
redeeman | also, i have noticed that there now appears to be a "enter code for unlocking sim card" in the settings menu - it wasnt there before, perhaps PR1.1 brought it, what is it? and what code exactly does it want? afaik my sim is not locked | 14:59 |
Shadikka | At least I've heard that it should work :P | 14:59 |
DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: when you have a link from foo.wav to dev/null it has nothing to complain about | 14:59 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: that's PUK aiui | 15:00 |
ifreq | woah conboy gets updated like 2 times a week | 15:00 |
ifreq | =) | 15:00 |
ifreq | gotta like it | 15:00 |
redeeman | DocScrutinizer51: i got all those codes for the SIM, but what unlocking exactly does it do? | 15:00 |
DocScrutinizer51 | PUK unlocks a SIM with 3false-PIN lock | 15:01 |
redeeman | but its not locked now? the pin code works | 15:01 |
DocScrutinizer51 | so you dont need PUK. feel happy! | 15:02 |
redeeman | that makes no sense, the puk code should only be requested if the pin code fails and requires puk, why is that menu item then available after i've entered pin? | 15:02 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and don't forket your PIN otherwise you'll need PUK | 15:02 |
redeeman | (and that option was not there before) | 15:02 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | forget | 15:03 |
DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: I have not the slightest idea why it's implemented that way | 15:03 |
redeeman | either way | 15:03 |
redeeman | it should not be shown when all is well then | 15:03 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | doesn't bother me | 15:04 |
redeeman | well... it bothers me that im not sure what its doing there exactly | 15:04 |
redeeman | i don't care that its there, i wanna know WHY | 15:04 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ask Nokia customer service. Then enlighten us ;-) | 15:05 |
redeeman | i will | 15:05 |
mtd | ugh, I always have to kill telepathy-butterfly's python process when I switch from WiFi to GPRS :( | 15:05 |
Caesium | the normal way to ask for a PUK on a phone is to insist it's entered after you got your PIN wrong 3 times, but the N900 isn't a phone, it's a tablet. | 15:06 |
wjt | mtd: filed a bug? :) | 15:06 |
Caesium | I would be a bit miffed if I got my PIN wrong 3 times, then couldn't use my Internet tablet on wifi because it was insisting I enter a PUK | 15:06 |
Caesium | therefore, it being in a menu for me to enter at my leisure is perfect | 15:06 |
mtd | wjt: naw, I'm just at the complaining stage :). Before I file a bug I'll hace to do work and stuff, like finding logs. So I just waste this channel's time. | 15:07 |
mtd | s/hace/have/ | 15:07 |
infobot | mtd meant: wjt: naw, I'm just at the complaining stage :). Before I file a bug I'll have to do work and stuff, like finding logs. So I just waste this channel's time. | 15:07 |
mtd | infobot: stopit | 15:07 |
* wjt bounces on /ignore | 15:07 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Caesium: fair enough | 15:07 |
redeeman | Caesium: yes, correct, but perhaps it should only be showed when the pin has been entered wrong, also, does that mean that before the update one couldnt enter puk code? | 15:08 |
wjt | mtd: fair :) | 15:08 |
Caesium | don't know, I didn't need my PUK before the update :) | 15:08 |
Caesium | perhaps someone could downflash and try it ;) | 15:08 |
Caesium | (have another phone handy to unlock your SIM) :P | 15:08 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: Caesium: also the very basic method is to enter sth like "**4711*<PUK>#" and we all know the dialer doesn't yet(!) know how to enter those commendcode numbers | 15:10 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: yes, I'm quite sure with Pr1.0 you had now way to enter PUK | 15:11 |
Caesium | redeeman: it only being shown when required sounds like a good idea for a bugs.maemo.org entry :) | 15:11 |
DocScrutinizer51 | just adds complexity | 15:11 |
redeeman | well i don't care, as long as i just know that's why its there | 15:11 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | and this additional complexity might fail | 15:12 |
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gks200 | hi, when i try to run Xephyr , i am getting the following error. | 15:15 |
gks200 | [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection ":1.67" is not allowed to own the service "org.x.config.display2" due to security policies in the configuration file) | 15:15 |
gks200 | anybody knows how to fix this? | 15:15 |
lupine_85 | hee, maemo uses telepathy for sip | 15:15 |
DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: hiding PUK menu implies querying the modem if PIN is locked. Modem might be shut down though (offline mode e.g.) or any other complications may happen like modem completely busy with UMTS data download or something | 15:16 |
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redeeman | yes, as i said, i don't care that its there as long as i know that's why its there | 15:17 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: I try to explain to you why (at least what I guess is why) | 15:18 |
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redeeman | yes i know | 15:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | k | 15:18 |
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Maemob | hi all, I am new to the community, I needed a help | 15:19 |
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Maemob | how can I use my PC to install applications on N900? | 15:20 |
ifreq | Maemob: what is wrong with application manager on phone? | 15:20 |
Maemob | nothing actually, I am away from wlan | 15:21 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | so the question isn't quite to the point I guess | 15:21 |
adalal | Maemob: use the pc suite if you're in windows | 15:22 |
adalal | Maemob: or, transfer installation files over to the phone, and run dpkg -i <filename> to install | 15:22 |
Maemob | ok, let me put it it this way: how can I install a pre downloaded application on N900 through my PC? | 15:23 |
DocScrutinizer51 | or set up usb networking with your PC as router' though that's quite tricky | 15:23 |
Maemob | ok, I oppend the .install file, it is just redirecting the N900 to dowload site | 15:23 |
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tybollt | hmm I'm a bit annoyed that my n900 doesn't make my coffee or give me a backrub... when will nokia fix that? | 15:25 |
tybollt | ;-) | 15:26 |
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Maemob | can you guide me how to set up usb netwrking? | 15:26 |
thresh | there is a howto on the wiki | 15:26 |
Maemob | cool, I better refer it then, | 15:27 |
Maemob | I read about red pill for .deb installations, is it not safe? | 15:28 |
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MohammadAG | Maemob, it was removed from 51-1 | 15:28 |
red | that was removed | 15:28 |
MohammadAG | hi ppl | 15:29 |
Maemob | ok, then is there any way to install using .deb files? | 15:29 |
adalal | Maemob: it will have to be compiled for the maemo device | 15:30 |
adalal | you can install using terminal | 15:30 |
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Maemob | adalal, can you please guide me? | 15:31 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: to clearly say what you're planning to do would be a great start | 15:34 |
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fatal^ | what's the proper way to autostart an application when the session starts on fremantle? | 15:34 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | Fatal: excellent question | 15:35 |
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Fatal | DocScrutinizer51: I didn't state one | 15:37 |
Maemob | DocScrutinizer51: I am away from Network and I do not have connectivity on my N900, but I have a PC which has Internet, then how can I dowload and install aplications? | 15:37 |
DocScrutinizer51 | oops | 15:37 |
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Maemob | is there any way? | 15:38 |
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MohammadAG | Maemob, download the deb files and the dependencies, then use rootsh and dpkg -i to install them | 15:39 |
MohammadAG | or get a wifi adapter and create an ad hoc connection | 15:39 |
DocScrutinizer51 | that's what I was pondering ATM | 15:40 |
Maemob | MohammadAG: ok, let me try this, this is something I can try right away | 15:40 |
MohammadAG | you need to install rootsh in one way or another though | 15:40 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: do you have rootsh installed already? | 15:41 |
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MohammadAG | yes | 15:41 |
DocScrutinizer51 | sorry | 15:41 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: do you have rootsh installed already? | 15:41 |
Maemob | yes I have | 15:41 |
MohammadAG | heh tab :p | 15:41 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ooh good | 15:41 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: sure :-P | 15:42 |
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Maemob | I am trying, I will be back, thanks so far | 15:43 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: so procedure is simple: download the .deb with your PC. Copy to N900 using mass storage. fire 'root' in terminal. then install using dpkg as adviced above | 15:44 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: put your LED to pirpse yet? | 15:45 |
fatal^ | DocScrutinizer51: /etc/osso-af-init/ maybe? | 15:45 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | fatal^: huh? | 15:46 |
Maemob | Ok, thanks. | 15:46 |
fatal^ | DocScrutinizer51: the way to autostart progams in the users session... | 15:46 |
DocScrutinizer51 | aah | 15:46 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | fatal^: no idea, honestly. Tried this for maemo4 once (N810) but gave up | 15:47 |
Dialekt | i wonder what will be announced thursday | 15:48 |
Dialekt | maemo 6? | 15:48 |
DocScrutinizer51 | it involved editing one of the very classical X files, like ~/.xinit or sth | 15:48 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | but didn,t pan out in the end | 15:49 |
GeneralAntilles | Oops, guess I took +r off too early. | 15:50 |
GeneralAntilles | Sorry, folks! | 15:50 |
DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: ooh? | 15:50 |
* DocScrutinizer51 runs to check on one of the non ctcp filtered clients | 15:50 |
GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, lots of GNAA spam around 2:45AM EST. | 15:51 |
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nedko | what you use for microblogging in n900? | 15:51 |
GeneralAntilles | Mauku? MaStory? | 15:51 |
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nedko | mauku does not behave very well here :] | 15:52 |
joerg_42 | GeneralAntilles: EST? mind to convert to UTC? | 15:52 |
nedko | mastory is for non-microbloging, i.e. real blog | 15:53 |
GeneralAntilles | joerg_42, -5 | 15:53 |
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nedko | at least accroding to the functionality i get here | 15:53 |
joerg_42 | k | 15:53 |
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rkc | how to simulate click event using gdkevent / gtk_main_do_event ? | 15:54 |
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GeneralAntilles | Goddamn, 4 dupes. | 15:56 |
tybollt | huh? | 15:57 |
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GeneralAntilles | Commit only needs to be clicked *once*. . . . | 15:57 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: 150332 <PaulFert`> DocScrutinizer51: my robot did trigger, but i have no OP in #maemo :) | 16:04 |
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GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, ping? | 16:05 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: sure it doesn't help to set +r to stop a already joined malicious client | 16:05 |
GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, they spam themselves into oblivion. | 16:06 |
DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 16:06 |
GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, what, do you want me to give PaulFerster op? | 16:06 |
DocScrutinizer51 | not really been my suggestion | 16:06 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | just to let yu know that smart oneliner actually kinda works nice | 16:07 |
* GeneralAntilles shrugs. | 16:07 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: nevermind | 16:08 |
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MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, yep :) | 16:18 |
MohammadAG | added the dbus-send for leds, plus a sleep 10 then a disable signal | 16:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | aah a timer. OK :-) | 16:18 |
MohammadAG | was wondering if I could send a notification to the dashboard (like sms-s) that says xchat | 16:19 |
MohammadAG | just for showing what it blinked for | 16:19 |
igagis | Hi | 16:19 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I guess it should be simple | 16:19 |
MohammadAG | but dbus-send-notifications failed | 16:19 |
igagis | Does anyone have any idea why could this be: http://pastebin.org/78682 | 16:19 |
DocScrutinizer51 | once we got to know the right dbus incantation ;-) | 16:20 |
igagis | and how to solve it | 16:20 |
MohammadAG | igagis, dns problem | 16:20 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: failed? threw error or simply no effect? | 16:20 |
MohammadAG | could be your resolve.conf | 16:21 |
MohammadAG | error i think | 16:21 |
MohammadAG | sec i'll try again | 16:21 |
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MohammadAG | switching to wlan | 16:21 |
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igagis | MohammadAG: ok, I actually can open maemo.org by browser | 16:21 |
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igagis | MohammadAG: ok, I actually can open maemo.org by browser | 16:22 |
igagis | MohammadAG: but ping maemo.org does not work too | 16:22 |
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PhonoN900 | has anyone had any issues with hildon-thuimbnail process pegging your processor for an extended amount of time? | 16:22 |
X-Fade | igagis: You can't ping maemo.org anyway. | 16:22 |
igagis | X-Fade: ah, ok | 16:23 |
DocScrutinizer51 | PhonoN900: seems to be normal | 16:23 |
tekojo | igagis http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_FAQ#Why_can_I_reach_an_IP-address_but_no_domain_inside_Scratchbox.3F | 16:23 |
xorAxAx | BabelO: does your rds thingie work with mediabox? | 16:23 |
MohammadAG | igagis, check your resolve.conf | 16:23 |
PhonoN900 | it's been the top process all morning, and i don't think i've ever seen it before | 16:23 |
MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, this should work right? | 16:23 |
MohammadAG | dbus-send-notification "foo bar boo bah bang" | 16:23 |
alterego | What do we have in the way of bittorrrent clients for Maemo? | 16:23 |
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alterego | I'm thinking of porting transmission with both Gtk and Qt front ends. | 16:23 |
X-Fade | PhonoN900: Added memory card with a lot of pictures or multimedia files? | 16:23 |
pupnik | bleh manually resetting up vmplayer is a nice timesink | 16:24 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: no idea. never tested yet | 16:24 |
MohammadAG | -sh: dbus-send-notification: not found | 16:24 |
PhonoN900 | x-fade, i loaded a new album on yesterday, via transmission, but that is all... | 16:24 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: so the name or the path (or syntax) is wrong | 16:24 |
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igagis | tekojo, MohammadAG: thanks I will try that | 16:25 |
MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, the command's wrong | 16:25 |
MohammadAG | dbus-send is the command for dbus signals | 16:25 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: you might want to use mdbu (google for it) to introspect for correct method names | 16:25 |
bfree1 | alterego: transmission (gtk) is already there (extras-testing) ;-) | 16:25 |
MohammadAG | that one has -notification and it's not a parameter | 16:25 |
MohammadAG | dbus monitor? | 16:26 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | mdbus does active introspection | 16:26 |
alterego | bfree1: awesome, I don't have to do anythign then :) | 16:26 |
PhonoN900 | my usual offenders in conky are hildon-desktop and xorg, which i assume are fine... i | 16:27 |
wjt | mdbus? yet another better dbus-send clone? | 16:27 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: see sth like http://wiki.openmoko.org/mdbus | 16:27 |
PhonoN900 | this process is running between 30-60 percent of 500mhz, constantly | 16:28 |
Stskeeps | PhonoN900: hildon-video-thumbnailer you mean? | 16:28 |
X-Fade | PhonoN900: Are you sure it isn't indexing your torrents? | 16:29 |
PhonoN900 | in conky all i see is "hildon-thumbnai" | 16:29 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus | 16:30 |
PhonoN900 | xffade: i'm not sure of anything :) | 16:30 |
DocScrutinizer51 | that's python and works flawlessly on maemo | 16:30 |
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ifreq | ah ww | 16:31 |
lizardo | DocScrutinizer51: nice finding :) | 16:32 |
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angasuleN810 | is there an equivalent to alt-tab? | 16:33 |
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angasuleN810 | to go back and fort, I mean, alt-tab then release | 16:33 |
PhonoN900 | process is gone, i guess i over reacted. thanks for the help and suggestions, everybody | 16:33 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: alas no | 16:33 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: just ctrl-BS | 16:34 |
angasuleN810 | bummerous, I'm an obsessive multitasker | 16:34 |
angasuleN810 | DocScrutinizer, what does that do? | 16:34 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: and for unknown reasons on dashboard not even cursor arrow keys work to select one | 16:35 |
angasuleN810 | ctrl-bs doesn't seem to do anything for me | 16:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: ctrl-BS opens dashboard (taskswitcher) | 16:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: oooh on maemo4 | 16:36 |
DocScrutinizer51 | no won't work there | 16:36 |
angasuleN810 | my nicname is too subtle :-P | 16:36 |
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angasuleN810 | in general I love the buttons | 16:37 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: but on N810 it works with homekey just like you'd expect | 16:37 |
angasuleN810 | stardict is nicer on the n810 than my desktop, even | 16:37 |
DocScrutinizer51 | by pressing short to switch and holding to select | 16:37 |
angasuleN810 | but I mean quick switching | 16:37 |
angasuleN810 | short shows the list as an overlay, hold takes me to the desktop | 16:38 |
DocScrutinizer51 | no quick switching back and forth (afaik) :-( | 16:38 |
xorAxAx | wuah, syncevolution deleted half of my calendar | 16:38 |
xorAxAx | together with mobical | 16:39 |
DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: multiple short jump to next in list. hold selects the one you just moved mark to | 16:39 |
lopz | hola | 16:39 |
wazd | I really wonder what bright mind decided to make text shadow the same color as default font color http://img10.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2010011914074.png/ | 16:39 |
angasuleN810 | I don't like holding, I prefer one click and then d pad | 16:40 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: (like the power button menu for selecting profiles on *ancient* phones ;-) | 16:41 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | text shadow WTF - eeeeew | 16:42 |
angasuleN810 | I like the power button menu :-P no need to hold! | 16:42 |
DocScrutinizer51 | useless eyecandy crap | 16:42 |
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angasuleN810 | is it useless or rather harmful? | 16:43 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | more like harmful | 16:44 |
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joerg_42 | GeneralAntilles: anticipating further impact? | 16:45 |
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GeneralAntilles | joerg_42, well, the last two times #freenode has said things have quieted down and I took it off, we got hit again. ;) | 16:46 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | hehe | 16:46 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | (taskswitching) so le's face that: N810 has 2 working concepts to switch tasks with kbd only (not using touchscreen) - short/long click of homebutton, and dpad. N900 has exactly ZERO. I'm wondering if this isn't a bug actually | 16:51 |
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Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: ctrl-backspace. | 16:51 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Stskeeps: and THEN?? | 16:52 |
angasule | umh, +R makes it impossible to change nicks, too | 16:52 |
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angasule | thanks, GeneralAntilles | 16:52 |
Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: good point | 16:52 |
angasule | can anyone recommend an msn program other than pidgin? | 16:52 |
angasule | it crashes a lot, it's slow and a hog | 16:53 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | angasule: (change nick) I guess you can switch to any nick actually registered to your 'account' (i.e. GROUPed) | 16:55 |
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DocScrutinizer-2 | actually no problem | 16:56 |
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angasule | my n810 nick isn't registered at all, since most programs suck at dealing with nickserv in the middle of a session | 16:56 |
pupnik | irssi on tablet could use a 'enter nick' script on firstrun | 16:57 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | well +R is exactly to forbid login with unregistered nicks | 16:57 |
AndrewFBlack | whats shortcut from screenshot about Ctrl Shift I or O? | 16:57 |
Stskeeps | heh, like that ever stopped bots | 16:58 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: p | 16:58 |
AndrewFBlack | p ahh I was way off | 16:58 |
AndrewFBlack | btw when did I have to start identifying to talk in here? | 16:58 |
javispedro | morning | 16:58 |
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javispedro | hm.. any reason "happy new year" is still in topic? | 16:59 |
frals | AndrewFBlack: after freenode got infected with spambots a day or so ago | 17:00 |
DocScrutinizer51 | AndrewFBlack: 'p' like 'ppppprintscreen' ;-P | 17:00 |
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javispedro | ~GeneralAntilles++ | 17:01 |
javispedro | er.. | 17:01 |
FIQ | couldn't they make a temporary script g-lining everyone that send that line and not notices the link at all? | 17:01 |
javispedro | that extraneous character before the pipe symbols again | 17:01 |
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FIQ | i've no experience with making an ircd, just asking. :p | 17:02 |
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igagis | Hi All | 17:08 |
igagis | I still did not resolve the problem | 17:08 |
igagis | the questions is, is this normal: http://pastebin.org/78698 ? | 17:08 |
igagis | (the original problem is here http://pastebin.org/78682) | 17:09 |
bionoid | igagis: First link just tells you that one hop does not let your ICMP through. The second link says there is a problem _resolving_ the hostname, meaning your DNS setup is probably incorrect. | 17:11 |
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KamuiN900 | pumpernicl.e | 17:11 |
bionoid | igagis: You could try echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf | 17:11 |
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igagis | bionoid: hm, ok, let me try that | 17:11 |
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pupnik | i get a similar block of icmp igagis - that isnt really a problem to use the service | 17:14 |
igagis | bionoid: no, it did not help | 17:14 |
igagis | pupnik: so, how do you use it? | 17:14 |
pupnik | you should be aple to apt-get now | 17:14 |
igagis | pupnik: ah, ok | 17:14 |
adalal | anyone know of a trip planning software? | 17:14 |
DocScrutinizer51 | friggin pastebin ad just opened a second browser window with some crap when clicking first pastebin link above | 17:14 |
pupnik | adalal: vi ? what do you need it to do? | 17:16 |
adalal | pupnik: lol, you know how they have trippit, and worldmate for iphones and blackberries... is there any such software for maemo.. or for linux in general? | 17:16 |
adalal | tripit* | 17:17 |
pupnik | i dont know really | 17:17 |
* DocScrutinizer51 wonders how to disable JS on microb | 17:17 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | temporarily(!) disable JS | 17:18 |
adalal | is there a about:config? | 17:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | hmm | 17:18 |
w00t | timeless_mbp_: question, why does microb constantly reset its useragent? | 17:19 |
mtnbkr | igagis: try traceroute -T maemo.org if you're curious to see more of the route | 17:20 |
adalal | w00t: it does? that's weird... i use the hide agent app... and it the ettings stick | 17:20 |
DocScrutinizer51 | adalal: actually there is. Not practicable for fast switching of JS though | 17:20 |
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adalal | DocScrutinizer, well, one could always build a script for it right :P | 17:20 |
igagis | mtnbkr: yes, it found maemo.org that way | 17:21 |
angasule | DocScrutinizer, I think a bookmark would work | 17:21 |
angasule | DocScrutinizer, if I remember right, settings can be switched with an URL | 17:21 |
DocScrutinizer51 | sounds interesting. No idea about such tings though | 17:21 |
angasule | a short google would tell you, I don't know it myself | 17:22 |
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angasule | but it takes 2' and no scripting :-) | 17:22 |
* mtnbkr wonders where his "simple brightness applet" went | 17:23 |
DocScrutinizer51 | anyway I just learned there's a JS setting in menu under 'options' | 17:24 |
angasule | cool | 17:24 |
* DocScrutinizer51 fool | 17:25 |
DocScrutinizer51 | nevertheless a key shortcut would be great. plus a tiny notifier icon thingie somewhere in a corner | 17:26 |
DocScrutinizer51 | maybe th*t's there as well and I failed to notice. I'll shut up for a while | 17:27 |
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w00t | 01/19@16:22:57 | 16:20 [timeless(n=timeless@65.75.195.122)] sorry. i can't comment because the channel is rude | 17:29 |
w00t | 01/19@16:22:57 | 16:21 [timeless(n=timeless@65.75.195.122)] in short: the browser orders the engine to reset a bunch of prefs. why do you ask? (please repeat my comments to the | 17:29 |
w00t | channel) | 17:29 |
w00t | 01/19@16:23:59 <w00t> I asked because it's a bit annoying; I'm dealing with a few sites that don't identify maemo as mobile correctly, so I want to (for them at least) switch | 17:30 |
w00t | myself to something more obviously mobile | 17:30 |
w00t | 01/19@16:24:16 <w00t> usually changing it to something like "Maemo; better than iPhone" works | 17:30 |
tybollt | heh | 17:30 |
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w00t | (just so everyone is kept in the loop there, he's unable to talk due to +R) | 17:31 |
tybollt | I guess the channel was locked to avoid spambots | 17:31 |
tybollt | I'm actually all for it | 17:31 |
GAN900 | Sites that identify Maemo as mobile piss me off. | 17:32 |
GAN900 | timeless, /msg nickserv identify | 17:32 |
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w00t | GAN900: it's sort of a hit and miss thing | 17:33 |
w00t | GAN900: google reader, for example, is absolutely terrible | 17:33 |
* tybollt is actually waiting for a google-breader... I will not be surprised :) | 17:34 |
w00t | GAN900: facebook is also a bit irritating to use in some ways, in that I dislike having to zoom constantly, but at least they offer a seperate URL that I can use and don't *force* one UI on me by guessing what they think I want | 17:34 |
w00t | (touch.facebook.com) | 17:34 |
GAN900 | Yeah, mostly Newegg and such irritate me with their useless mobile versions. | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | lite.facebook.com isn't bad | 17:34 |
w00t | never used lite | 17:34 |
w00t | touch is good. | 17:34 |
_berto_ | and http://www.google.com/reader/i is very usable | 17:34 |
w00t | _berto_: yeah, reader has alternatives | 17:35 |
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w00t | there are others, though (can't remember now, I found one yesterday, which is why I asked about this :-)) that do horrible guessing | 17:35 |
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hrw | GReader is hard to use in MicroB also because browser steals keys | 17:36 |
w00t | *nod* | 17:37 |
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GAN900 | Wish some of these themes actually came with icon sets. | 17:37 |
tybollt | what themes are good - what are you folks using? | 17:38 |
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hrw | tybollt: still 'digital nature' - tried all ovi ones, hitech | 17:40 |
hrw | ah... enabling manipulation mode in microb makes greader getting keys :) | 17:41 |
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angasule | I need MSN :/ | 17:42 |
tybollt | you HAVE msn | 17:42 |
angasule | where? | 17:42 |
GAN900 | WordCity is nice | 17:42 |
* angasule checks under the carpet | 17:42 |
GAN900 | Although the colors are screwy. | 17:42 |
hrw | angasule: msn is not not out of box - you need to install 'extra protocols for conversations and contacts' pacakge | 17:42 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: how did you solve the icons stuff? | 17:42 |
AndrewFBlack | maemo-org theme is in testing now and here is screenshots http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41363 | 17:43 |
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AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, all I have is App Manger icons so far that was easy they just go in background folder | 17:43 |
angasule | hrw, thanks | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: also your blurred text is worthless | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:43 |
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Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: at least in the SMS view | 17:43 |
DocScrutinizer51 | has anyone seen problems with copying marked text in microb is somewhat broken? Sometimes I need to disable the cursormode to make copy show up in menu. ctrl-c doesn't work at all when those situations hit | 17:44 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, lol not an interesting converstation you wouldn want to read it lol | 17:44 |
angasule | hrw, I don't see it | 17:44 |
hrw | AndrewFBlack: nice, but I would drop orangre frames | 17:44 |
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fiferboy | I like the orange frames | 17:44 |
hrw | angasule: you need to enable 'extras' repository catalog in application manager | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | hrw: it's not maemo.org theme for nothing | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:45 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: The font colour for notifications is orange with and orange shadow on an orange background :) | 17:45 |
AndrewFBlack | hrw, lol yeah everone else has longed the orange frames | 17:45 |
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hrw | ;) | 17:45 |
angasule | hrw, yes, I have it,hmm | 17:45 |
TTilus | debugging help needed: my desktop effects (app change, desktop slide, background fade on menu, scroll) have been jerky and jumpy since last system upgrade, any idea why? how to debug? top shows >95% idle and nothing suspicious and scrolling/effects still jump randomly, but at least once every single time | 17:46 |
Stskeeps | TTilus: PR1.1? | 17:46 |
TTilus | yep | 17:46 |
angasule | hrw, I have an N810 | 17:46 |
Stskeeps | TTilus: is there anything doing heavy I/O? | 17:46 |
TTilus | Stskeeps: how do i tell | 17:46 |
X-Fade | TTilus: Or swapping? | 17:46 |
TTilus | Stskeeps: should top show it? | 17:47 |
TTilus | X-Fade: how do i tell? | 17:47 |
hrw | angasule: ah.. so install accounts-plugin-haze (or other with 'haze' in it) | 17:47 |
hrw | angasule: my n810 is discharged so cannot test | 17:47 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, its orange with white shadow on orange BG afraid only way I can fix it is make background grey I´ll do that in next release | 17:47 |
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angasule | hrw, no package has haze in the name | 17:47 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I thought it was probably a limitation of the colour scheme | 17:47 |
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fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Also, on the lock screen the date is orange on an orange background | 17:48 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, yeah I get getting questions about changing font in just on program or widget have to keep telling people I have like 12 colors to work with and thats it. | 17:48 |
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agi | hi, what's the recommended way to install scratchbox in debian(sid)? nokia's maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0.download ? | 17:49 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Yeah, and the colours seem to be really geared towards dark themes | 17:49 |
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AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, on that one I think I might draw a grey box on background since I like orange back and I cna change text | 17:49 |
angasule | agi, the script will call apt-get, but I use squeeze | 17:50 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: And the calendar widget date box is white text on white background. That one is probably hardest to fix | 17:50 |
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agi | angasule: I was wondering if the script is 'clean' enough, or if it will mess my current install... | 17:50 |
angasule | agi, not sure, it does some strange stuff | 17:51 |
hrw | angasule: try: purple-extra-protocols | 17:51 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, thats going to be imposible to fix unless I change hte white font on whole theme. I was trying to find the littleicon for the calendar but I can´t find t anywhere | 17:52 |
angasule | agi, you are better off asking in #debian-arm or something, I guess | 17:52 |
agi | angasule: not sure people @ #debian-arm know about this particular script... | 17:52 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I'll look for it | 17:52 |
agi | I guess I'll try it and see what happens | 17:52 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, thanks | 17:53 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, do you need to know the full path to each icon folder to make icons work? | 17:53 |
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angasule | hrw, it's not showing in the app manager, weird, since I have pidgin installed | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: mm, maybe we should make a template for icon sets too | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: meiz did a freemantle-icons package | 17:54 |
xorAxAx | DocScrutinizer51: is there a kind of profile daemon for openmoko or other platforms that e.g. silences the phone at night? | 17:55 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, seporate is would better I guess incase someone doesn´t want icons | 17:55 |
wjt | angasule: the haze package is called something like "Pidgin protocols for Conversations and Contacts" currently | 17:56 |
DocScrutinizer51 | xorAxAx: not afaik | 17:56 |
wjt | (a name I think is misleading) | 17:56 |
wjt | angasule: "Extra protocols for Conversations and Contacts" installs pretty much all the extra Telepathy CMs | 17:56 |
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angasule | umh, I have pidgin installed, but I don't want it | 17:57 |
angasule | I want anything else | 17:57 |
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wjt | right. you can remove pidgin, and install "Extra protocols for Conversations and Contacts" | 17:57 |
agi | where can I find the kernel .config used in maemo5/n900? I guess it's the one in rx51_defconfig, but is it accesible from any website? | 17:57 |
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eijk | Hi, the repositories are currently broken? | 17:58 |
hrw | agi: it is in maemo5 kernel source | 17:58 |
eijk | http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/free/source/Sources.gz | 17:58 |
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eijk | gives me a system error | 17:58 |
X-Fade | eijk: Should not. Works for me? | 17:58 |
agi | hrw: thanks, /me searches for that | 17:59 |
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TTilus | Stskeeps, X-Fade: still there? | 18:00 |
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TTilus | Stskeeps, X-Fade: how do i tell if theres heavy io or swapping going on? | 18:00 |
tybollt | TTilus: get the desktop load widget | 18:00 |
TTilus | tybollt: i have | 18:01 |
X-Fade | TTilus: install loadapplet and see if memory usage is high. | 18:01 |
TTilus | it doesnt show heavy load | 18:01 |
tybollt | so there is no heavy load? | 18:01 |
X-Fade | TTilus: 4 blocks in the right column is not ok. | 18:01 |
tybollt | if you want to make sure | 18:01 |
angasule | wjt, I'm just not finding the package you mention | 18:01 |
tybollt | open a friggen xterm and use ps/top/ etc | 18:01 |
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wjt | angasule: oh... it's in extras-devel or -testing, not extras proper yet | 18:02 |
wjt | i think | 18:02 |
angasule | ah | 18:02 |
TTilus | X-Fade: ive got one faint gray block in left and two white in right | 18:02 |
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X-Fade | TTilus: That should be fine then. | 18:02 |
angasule | so no msn other than pidgin? (which is unusable for me) | 18:02 |
eijk | X-Fade, http://pastebin.com/d47772c25 | 18:02 |
TTilus | X-Fade: but its not :) | 18:02 |
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igagis | pupnik: just want to let you know that 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf' solved the problem for me | 18:04 |
TTilus | any thoughts how to debug this (jerky effects and scroll) further? | 18:04 |
X-Fade | TTilus: I think a question to maemo-developers is in order. | 18:04 |
TTilus | mm, gonna go there... | 18:05 |
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hrw | ARGHHH!$!@#$@!#$ | 18:05 |
hrw | fscking expired token on tmo | 18:05 |
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hrw | Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired. | 18:06 |
hrw | Please reload the window. | 18:06 |
hrw | I just reloaded... | 18:06 |
MohammadAG | igagis, didn't i tell you to check it before... | 18:06 |
hrw | fuck it | 18:06 |
javispedro | and your message is gone! | 18:06 |
igagis | MohammadAG: yes, I just was so stupid that copied the resolv.conf to targets/FREMANTE/etc :-) | 18:07 |
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eijk | X-Fade, also apt-get update (in scratchbox) fails because it gets non-gzip content. | 18:07 |
angasule | thanks fornthye help guys, I'm off to lunch | 18:07 |
MohammadAG | lol | 18:07 |
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X-Fade | eijk: Yeah, your local mirror cached an error. | 18:07 |
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eijk | X-Fade, ok, if it's fixed, I can wait :-) | 18:08 |
teilzeitstudent | What kind of firewall is running on the maemo? basic iptables? Or none at all? :p | 18:08 |
agi | is there a way to know if someone already packaged a certain kernel module? | 18:08 |
X-Fade | eijk: Yeah, it is fixed. But now I need to ask for it to get flushed, will take a while as everybody is gone/going home atm ;) | 18:09 |
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andre__ | teilzeitstudent: N900 you mean? I wonder what "the maemo" is... | 18:10 |
teilzeitstudent | err.. yea, the n900. | 18:10 |
teilzeitstudent | fremantle. | 18:10 |
FIQ | uh | 18:11 |
RST38h | Ahhhahahahahahaha | 18:12 |
* RST38h can talk now *and* KOffice seems to be out | 18:12 |
tybollt | rst =) | 18:12 |
FIQ | i've heard that a N900 stock is delayed in swe..? | 18:12 |
FIQ | i seems to be forced to wait to feb 10th anyway | 18:12 |
FIQ | i don't like waiting to feb 10th | 18:12 |
tybollt | uhm I'm in .se and I've got my device for what a month now :) | 18:13 |
FIQ | yes, it was release a while ago | 18:13 |
tybollt | granted I ordered via nokia online thingy | 18:14 |
RST38h | libgsf missing, cannot install | 18:14 |
FIQ | but it seems to be out of devices everywhere except the official shop atm that has got SO good reviews.. not | 18:14 |
andre__ | FIQ: get money, go to different country, buy N900, go back to Sweden. RESOLVED WORKSFORME. | 18:14 |
tybollt | FIQ: I had _no_ problems what-so-ever w/ the official shop | 18:14 |
eijk | X-Fade, what rough timeframe will the flush take? | 18:14 |
teilzeitstudent | andre__, connecting via ssh works on another port, the command iptables is unknown..so I'm guessing no firewall at all? | 18:14 |
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tybollt | RST38h: s/koffice/freeoffice/ but ye :P | 18:15 |
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FIQ | Tybollt: ok, i will check it soon. | 18:15 |
RST38h | Ah, freoffice needs libgsf but it can only be found in extras-devel | 18:15 |
RST38h | X-Fade: Looks like something has not got promoted automatically | 18:15 |
andre__ | people asking me in private why this channel is +R. | 18:15 |
RST38h | andre: No shit Sherlock | 18:16 |
ivan4th | would anyone please tell me a working IP address for repostory.maemo.org to put in /etc/hosts ? | 18:16 |
X-Fade | andre__: people == timeless? :) | 18:16 |
* tybollt guessing it is due to the spambot the other day | 18:16 |
andre__ | harhar, no... frals. | 18:16 |
andre__ | errr oops | 18:16 |
andre__ | fatal^ I meant. | 18:16 |
RST38h | oh wait they are both in devel which is down | 18:16 |
X-Fade | RST38h: koffice is only in -devel? | 18:16 |
tybollt | ? | 18:17 |
javispedro | devel is down again? | 18:17 |
RST38h | yea | 18:17 |
tybollt | freeoffice just installed fine here | 18:17 |
RST38h | yea x2 | 18:17 |
tybollt | no problems | 18:17 |
tybollt | RST38h: can't verify that? | 18:17 |
RST38h | BTW, apt-get package lists are starting to really hurt / free space | 18:18 |
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RST38h | Are there any plans to move them to /opt? | 18:18 |
slonopotamus | does n900 support CSD? | 18:18 |
javispedro | I guess removing older package versions would help | 18:19 |
javispedro | since having them grow too much hinders h-a-m performance | 18:19 |
X-Fade | Yeah, should be done soon(ish) | 18:20 |
kamui | RST38h, I relinked my apt cache | 18:20 |
RST38h | javispedro: But I think this is being done every now and then | 18:20 |
kamui | solves that problem | 18:20 |
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RST38h | How safe is it though in the case of an update? | 18:20 |
kamui | because that was really annoying | 18:20 |
kamui | I was able to do the 1.1 update fine | 18:20 |
kamui | I ended up reflashing anyway because of hte battery life, but it wasn't an issue | 18:20 |
RST38h | hmm, no cannot refresh -devel and -testing | 18:21 |
kamui | I just relinked /var/cache/apt or whatever that folder is | 18:21 |
RST38h | yea | 18:21 |
kamui | where all the downloads go first | 18:21 |
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RST38h | ---> home | 18:21 |
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* MohammadAG did that too | 18:22 |
MohammadAG | and i'm at 89% root | 18:22 |
bfree | anyone know about new accounts on maemo.org? I created one ~18h ago, it's logged in on the garage but I can't login to the main site yet (for brainstorm) | 18:22 |
X-Fade | bfree: We're working on account sync. Will take a while still. | 18:23 |
bfree | X-Fade: ok, thanks (was wondering if I might have managed to typo my password somehow) | 18:23 |
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bfree | I want my N900 right-handed damnit ;-) | 18:24 |
adalal | what did you mean? | 18:25 |
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GeneralAntilles | To the unregistered or unidentified users in the room. It's simpler if you just register with NickServ or identify yourself than bothering me about it. Thanks. | 18:26 |
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bfree | adalal: me? the pop-up menus when you hold on something should try to appear left of press not right of it (so you can see it), though with a config option for the lefties to get current behaviour | 18:26 |
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adalal | hm | 18:27 |
andre__ | GeneralAntilles, so what's the reasoning for +R? | 18:28 |
GeneralAntilles | andre__, botspam. | 18:29 |
andre__ | ah, okay | 18:29 |
javispedro | GeneralAntilles: lol. thought the silence is nice >:) | 18:29 |
GeneralAntilles | andre__, we had a round of GNAA spam at about 0745 UTC. | 18:29 |
javispedro | s/thought/though | 18:29 |
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andre__ | I see | 18:31 |
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javispedro | infobot: ping | 18:33 |
infobot | ~pong | 18:33 |
javispedro | well, at least infobot is R. | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer51 | bfree: exactly what I thought when clearing my mail a few minutes ago | 18:33 |
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tybollt | what-the-hell | 18:34 |
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bfree | well anyone can feel free to brainstorm it seeing as though I'm still awaiting the account sync :-p it may even be bug worthy ;-) | 18:35 |
tybollt | 7,4MB for a battery widget? :) | 18:35 |
DocScrutinizer51 | andre__: and +R is what [<christel>] suggests | 18:35 |
tybollt | that's... insane :) | 18:35 |
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andre__ | okay. Christel is always right :) | 18:36 |
alterego | Oh dear, people pasting their IMEI numbers on the internet again .. | 18:38 |
SpeedEvil | It's OK as long as you post the CC number in the same message. | 18:39 |
alterego | Heh | 18:39 |
goodwill | Pit: ya figure it out? | 18:39 |
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alterego | Is the UK version of the Nokia image the "Global" release? | 18:39 |
alterego | Or is it still stuck on 41? | 18:40 |
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ilovefish | sweet! http://img263.yfrog.com/img263/418/screenshot2010011917363.png | 18:47 |
plastun | hi! where I can find maemo-specific fields of debian/control file, such as XB-Memo-Icon? | 18:48 |
javispedro | ilovefish: | 18:48 |
javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/er.png | 18:48 |
_berto_ | plastun: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xb-maemo-icon :) | 18:48 |
_berto_ | plastun: first entry | 18:49 |
_berto_ | :) | 18:49 |
plastun | _berto_, but this page contains only this field and no more | 18:49 |
ilovefish | javispedro, now that a nice pattern there! | 18:49 |
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_berto_ | plastun: there's a couple of links there | 18:49 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: meh | 18:50 |
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javispedro | :) | 18:51 |
DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: told ya not to use that stiching pattern for a wallpaper | 18:52 |
javispedro | ... because after using it for a while it corrupts the application manager? ;) | 18:53 |
javispedro | actually I was toying with clutter when that started happening (and it fixed after reboot), so it's cheating | 18:53 |
DocScrutinizer51 | appmgr can't decrypt payTV ;-) | 18:53 |
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t_s_o | crap, each time i read something related to maemo5, i wish nokia would make a non-phone device... | 18:55 |
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javispedro | you can imagine how cool the blur effect was (basically a random new pattern each frame) | 18:56 |
alterego | t_s_o: why? | 18:56 |
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t_s_o | alterego: never liked big expensive phones. they risk turning into big expensive bricks all to soon, given that its carried everywhere | 18:56 |
alterego | Ah, okay | 18:57 |
javispedro | well, I used to carry my PDA everywhere too. | 18:57 |
t_s_o | a second device can be left at home or similar when not needed, while my more rugged featurephone can come along for those calls and messages | 18:57 |
* timeless tries to talk | 18:57 |
Stskeeps | success | 18:57 |
timeless | how do i add other nicks there's some link command? | 18:57 |
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t_s_o | also, my N800 have a battery life of hours, while my phone can sit for days as i do not play with it all the time ;) | 18:58 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: GROUP | 19:00 |
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GeneralAntilles | timeless, /msg nickserv identify timeless <password> from your other nicks. | 19:00 |
GeneralAntilles | then /msg nickserv group | 19:00 |
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timeless | gan900: can you give 'timeless' the maemo cloak? | 19:04 |
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GeneralAntilles | timeless, sure. | 19:05 |
* timeless frowns | 19:05 |
GeneralAntilles | timeless, just want /community/contributor/ or something more? | 19:05 |
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timeless | i'm pretty sure i don't know/care :) | 19:06 |
timeless | so why not? | 19:06 |
DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: just group it to timeless_mbpÄ | 19:06 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ? | 19:06 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, Ping | 19:06 |
zaheerm | .. | 19:06 |
plastun | how to add new application to bugs.maemo.org? | 19:06 |
GeneralAntilles | timeless, well, the other option is to indicate Nokia affiliation. So I'd assume conributor would be preferred. ;) | 19:07 |
timeless | plastun: file a bug in bugs.maemo.org asking for it | 19:07 |
timeless | there's even a wiki w/ instructions | 19:07 |
timeless | gan: . | 19:07 |
GeneralAntilles | http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products | 19:07 |
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timeless | ok, so um | 19:07 |
timeless | now i can't change my nick | 19:07 |
plastun | thanks! | 19:07 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: you can change to grouped nicks only | 19:08 |
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GeneralAntilles | timeless, it's the spambot-fighting +R | 19:08 |
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javispedro | the spambot is still around? | 19:09 |
timeless | how do i tell colloquy about ident? | 19:09 |
GeneralAntilles | timeless, should be a setting for the NickServ password in the server settings. | 19:10 |
DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: most easy procedure: identify with a known nick; change to new nick; /ns group | 19:10 |
GeneralAntilles | cmd-1 or something brings it up | 19:10 |
* GeneralAntilles switched to Adium. | 19:10 |
DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: I guess you can't du that while you joined +R channels though | 19:11 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | do* | 19:11 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: pong | 19:11 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, any idea why a theme made with Upper Case Folder name is not optified? | 19:12 |
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Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: give me an example package please | 19:13 |
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AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, Maemo-org | 19:13 |
AndrewFBlack | was optifed chnged folder name to Maemo-org from maemo-org and now its now | 19:13 |
AndrewFBlack | not | 19:13 |
Stskeeps | 1.2-6? | 19:14 |
AndrewFBlack | yeah | 19:14 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Why not use lowercase folder name? | 19:14 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: cos name of theme is maemo.org | 19:14 |
DocScrutinizer51 | maemo6 ?? :-P | 19:14 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, problems with hilights and relationsip between folder name and theme name | 19:15 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Maemo-org is a.... strange package name anyway | 19:15 |
AndrewFBlack | Iḿ going to be forced to make theme name Maemo.org I guess | 19:15 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps, AndrewFBlack: Then make folder name lower case and gtk-theme-name uppercase | 19:15 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: You can make the theme name whatever you want with no impact on the folder name | 19:15 |
DocScrutinizer51 | so I suggest to call the package 'theme_ maemo-org' | 19:16 |
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fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: You just need to adjust the XB-Maemo-Display-Name in the control file, and the name inside index.theme | 19:16 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: it's a little more complex than that in the template so :P | 19:16 |
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Stskeeps | fiferboy: we can't edit -layout-5 easily so | 19:16 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: anyway | 19:16 |
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Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: 1.2-6 is optified | 19:16 |
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AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, ok someone said something on Testing pag for it about not being optified | 19:17 |
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Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: it is, it is actually optified but the heuristics keep some things on rootfs | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/listing.txt | 19:18 |
agi | I've got a problem trying to install scratchbox: | 19:18 |
agi | E: Host kernel module binfmt_misc is required for the CPU transparency feature. | 19:18 |
agi | agi@var:~$ lsmod | grep bin | 19:18 |
agi | binfmt_misc 6860 0 | 19:18 |
agi | but: | 19:18 |
agi | agi@var:~$ ls /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc | 19:18 |
agi | ls: cannot access /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc: No such file or directory | 19:18 |
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fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: If you just look in /opt/themes it is not there, but it is in /opt/maemo/usr/share/themes | 19:18 |
agi | module exists, but the dir the script is looking for does not | 19:18 |
agi | (2.6.31) | 19:18 |
Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: we don't optify in same way as theme maker does it so | 19:18 |
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fiferboy | Stskeeps: What is the highlighting fix using the theme layout template? | 19:19 |
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AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, ok just checking because it something was said about it. | 19:19 |
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Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: yeah and tell them that it is optified, they can check for themselves. maemo-optify does some heuristics so | 19:19 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: if theme name (the visible one) is lowercase, directory name is uppercase, and reverse. | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | directory name is invisible, so | 19:20 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps: Gotcha | 19:20 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps: Does the theme tool also handle the packaging? | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: try_it_out.sh modifies the packaging yeah | 19:21 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps: But it doesn't use the theme thumbnail to generate a XB-Maemo-Icon in control. I guess that is up to the user afterwards? | 19:21 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: we can make the source code do so if we want | 19:22 |
AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, any idea how I can add the calendar icon in theme package | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: i just didn't get a patch for it or make it one | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | fiferboy: the idea is to extend it to support icon replacements etc | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | as well | 19:22 |
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Stskeeps | fiferboy: so if someone gives me a good idea how to do it sanely, or send me a patch, i'm all ears :) | 19:23 |
fiferboy | Stskeeps: I'll see if I have some free time | 19:23 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I tried creating a /usr/share/icons/Maemo-org dir, point gtkrc to it and populating it with an alternate calendar_applet png | 19:24 |
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fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Didn't work. Either I did something wrong, or calendar applet is hardcoded to look in a specific directory for an icon | 19:24 |
Caesium | agi: perhaps you can mount it? | 19:25 |
AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, wonder who we can ask if its hardcoded | 19:25 |
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Caesium | agi: "mount binfmt_misc -t binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc" or similar? | 19:25 |
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agi | Caesium: I tried, but failed: | 19:25 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Good question | 19:26 |
agi | root@var:~# mount -t binfmt_misc none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc | 19:26 |
agi | mount: mount point /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc does not exist | 19:26 |
agi | root@var:~# mkdir /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc | 19:26 |
agi | mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc': No such file or directory | 19:26 |
fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Changing the icon in the /usr/share/icons/hicolor directory works | 19:26 |
Caesium | agi: no /proc at all? | 19:26 |
agi | /proc/sys/fs/ does exist | 19:26 |
Caesium | ah, um.. :) | 19:26 |
agi | I can mount binfmt_misc in /mnt i.e. | 19:27 |
agi | but that's not what the install script is looking for | 19:27 |
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andre__ | anybody having an idea where it's defined (codewise, not specs) that .desktop files go into /usr/share/applications/hildon/ in Maemo5? | 19:29 |
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eijk | X-Fade, any news about the flush? I still get the error page... | 19:40 |
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hrw | I starts to like people like Nathan Anderson due to his mail to maemo-devel | 19:45 |
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woglinde | re | 19:50 |
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woglinde | still attacks? | 19:50 |
slonopotamus | ... | 19:50 |
slonopotamus | woglinde, now it's perfectly protected and silent here :D | 19:51 |
woglinde | yeah its nice | 19:51 |
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woglinde | good nobody knows /msg nickserv foo | 19:52 |
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Arkenoi | the drawback of slow bundled updates is that we unlikely to expect icq to work again soon. maybe that's not bad at all, though ;-) | 19:52 |
woglinde | hm wonder who needs icq | 19:53 |
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woglinde | xmpp and irc is enough | 19:53 |
hrw | Arkenoi: icq is by community | 19:53 |
derf | People who started using the internet in 1997. | 19:53 |
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woglinde | derf I started 96 and used irc | 19:53 |
Stskeeps | icq was the way to keep in touch with girls you met on irc | 19:54 |
Stskeeps | :P | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I fail to see how +R may cause silence - while number of users is almost same | 19:54 |
hrw | woglinde: I started 1997, used irc. in 98/99 I connected my Amiga to internet. used irc and icq | 19:54 |
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Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: it bans non-reg users to talk | 19:54 |
hrw | woglinde: icq was first popular IM client | 19:54 |
woglinde | hrw it was hype | 19:55 |
woglinde | and dont believe in hypes | 19:55 |
DocScrutinizer51 | Oh so +R doesn,t block join, it rather simply 'devoices'? | 19:55 |
hrw | woglinde: it was nice way to catch friends from other dormitories | 19:55 |
woglinde | and server was controlled by yahoo right? | 19:55 |
hrw | woglinde: so? | 19:56 |
hrw | woglinde: irc servers were also controlled by someone | 19:56 |
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woglinde | dont like yahoo till today | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: might do both | 19:56 |
woglinde | *g* | 19:56 |
hrw | woglinde: you trusted ircops? | 19:56 |
Arkenoi | I started in 1994 (and email was almost 5 years earlier) | 19:56 |
hrw | Arkenoi: you are older then | 19:56 |
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woglinde | hrw more than yahoo | 19:56 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | please anybody who's not registered and thus van't post: please speak up now X-P | 19:57 |
gevaerts | spamming problems? | 19:58 |
Arkenoi | that's funny there are people who show off with "short" icq numbers trying to say "people, look, i had internet in 1996/7!". Actually using icq in that years was considered incredibly lame, as the client was windows-only and using windows was mauvais ton | 19:58 |
javispedro | I can't post | 19:58 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: too bad ;-P | 19:58 |
woglinde | Arkenoi ms-comic-chat | 19:58 |
woglinde | haha | 19:58 |
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woglinde | was fun on irc | 19:59 |
Cas07 | lol ICQ that takes me back | 19:59 |
Stskeeps | Arkenoi: icq got so bloated | 19:59 |
Arkenoi | hrw: i even seen the great efnet/ircnet split by my own eyes! | 19:59 |
* Arkenoi is old fart | 19:59 |
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hrw | Arkenoi: ;) | 19:59 |
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woglinde | okay | 20:00 |
javispedro | ~curse endianness | 20:00 |
infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, endianness ! | 20:00 |
woglinde | dinnertime | 20:01 |
woglinde | still later | 20:01 |
woglinde | javispedro wine on n900 and ms-comic-chat? | 20:01 |
woglinde | hahahaha | 20:01 |
penguinbait | its better than vista | 20:01 |
Hukka | woglinde: I just had dinner. That does not prevent chatting :) | 20:01 |
woglinde | or wine with win95 | 20:01 |
penguinbait | or even coming back as OS2 | 20:01 |
woglinde | hukka I have a 3 year child | 20:01 |
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woglinde | even when he can use the browser | 20:01 |
woglinde | we still not eating at computers | 20:01 |
woglinde | till later | 20:02 |
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javispedro | it's not fun at all when you try to glue together 3 libs: one which tries to be host-endianness independent, another one which follows host-endianness, and some other one where some functions are endianness dependent and some are not. | 20:02 |
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Hukka | woglinde: You need one of those plastic, deforming keyboards. I'm sure they are anything-proof | 20:02 |
ivan4th | javispedro: accidental ARM endianness switch is even better than this. | |
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