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| coldboot | lbt: Here: http://qt.gitorious.org/~nhooey/qt/nhooey-qt-maemo-bugfixes/commit/54dfbffa83158e4c10c8b843be97efdee1f29fa2 | 00:04 |
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| coldboot | Search for clearHIMProxyIfHidden | 00:05 |
| lbt | johan said something in #gitorious too | 00:05 |
| coldboot | Yeah I noticed, I'll try it in a sec when I fix this. | 00:06 |
| coldboot | Oh man this has been a while. | 00:06 |
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| coldboot | lbt: I don't think qwidget.cpp can include anything from src/gui ... | 00:22 |
| lbt | OK, I think the pattern here is to make clearHIMProxyIfHidden a socket | 00:24 |
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| coldboot | A socket? | 00:24 |
| lbt | slot | 00:25 |
| coldboot | ah ok | 00:25 |
| lbt | err, although... | 00:25 |
| lbt | why isn't it keywidget->clearHIMProxyIfHidden(event) ? | 00:25 |
| coldboot | That would make sense. | 00:26 |
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| coldboot | However I'm still having problems including src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputmethodprotocol.h in qwidget.cpp. | 00:28 |
| lbt | see how it was done in the scrolling... | 00:29 |
| coldboot | fiferboy's fingerscrolling branch? | 00:29 |
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| lbt | yes | 00:29 |
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| coldboot | How do I pull mer-fingerscroll? | 00:35 |
| coldboot | I tried `git pull mer-fingerscroll` and `git fetch mer-fingerscroll`, but they don't show up in my branches. | 00:36 |
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| ShadowJK | jhford, the middle pin is just a resistor used for signaling battery capacity | 00:37 |
| jhford | ShadowJK: thanks | 00:37 |
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| ShadowJK | Don't parallell your powersupply with a battery if it turns out the powersupply doesn't supply clean enough power... use a capacitor | 00:43 |
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| lbt | you should have it in origin already | 00:50 |
| lbt | git checkout --track origin/mer-fingerscroll | 00:50 |
| lbt | git remote -v | 00:51 |
| lbt | I do git remote rename origin Qt | 00:51 |
| lbt | and similarly with your personal remote repo | 00:51 |
| lbt | that way you can pull from either one | 00:51 |
| coldboot | The git checkout line doesn't work. | 00:53 |
| coldboot | Got it | 00:53 |
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| lbt | gitk --all is your friend | 00:54 |
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| coldboot | lbt: I have to edit the build system to put it in QWidget::, there's no -I src/gui/* at all when compiling qwidget.cpp... | 01:01 |
| lbt | ugh | 01:01 |
| coldboot | http://pastie.org/554185 | 01:01 |
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| coldboot | I didn't see anything in fingerscroll. | 01:03 |
| lcuk | /me wiggles his pinky | 01:03 |
| lcuk | - | 01:04 |
| coldboot | Andrew pushed a lot of commits to qt-diablo... | 01:06 |
| lbt | The problem is jus the #include "inputmethod/qhildoninputcontext_p.h" | 01:07 |
| coldboot | Yeah | 01:08 |
| lbt | why do you need that line? | 01:09 |
| coldboot | Because I do a reinterpret_cast of HildonIMActivateMessage | 01:10 |
| coldboot | And use HILDON_IM_HIDE | 01:11 |
| lbt | not in qapplication_x11.cpp you don't | 01:11 |
| coldboot | In qwidget.cpp I do, that's where I'm defining this function that does the cast. | 01:11 |
| lbt | OK, I'm looking at old src then | 01:12 |
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| lbt | have you tried #include private/qhildon... | 01:14 |
| lbt | which includes .... include/QtGui/private/qhildoninputcontext_p.h which contains : #include "../../../src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputcontext_p.h" | 01:16 |
| lbt | which should work | 01:16 |
| coldboot | ahhh | 01:16 |
| lbt | AFAIK that's autogenerated | 01:16 |
| coldboot | Weird. | 01:16 |
| lbt | well. complex :) | 01:17 |
| lbt | the whole 'private' thing is ... interesting | 01:17 |
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| coldboot | lbt: It's been pushed and the merge request updated. | 01:44 |
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| coldboot | So the `#include "private/qhildon..." works in 4.5.2, but not 4.5.0. | 01:47 |
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| seaLne | hi i was trying to follow the instructions on http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_5_beta_2_sdk_installation/ but osso-af-sb-startup dosen't seem installable due to dependancies on hildon-initscripts which depends on theme-config which claims to be uninstallable am i missing something? | 02:05 |
| seaLne | so i can't start the sdk ui | 02:07 |
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| seaLne | ah for some reason the non-free apt line had disaperared? weird but sorted anyway | 02:14 |
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| b-man16 | hello | 05:10 |
| * b-man16 is still waiting for his tablet to arrive in the mail :P | 05:11 | |
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| b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 | 05:37 |
| infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt14@pool-98-116-130-240.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22h 29m 11s ago, saying: 'home mainframe...lol'. | 05:37 |
| b-man16 | hmmm :( | 05:37 |
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| r2d2rogers | it should be able to get to first boot wizard before it needs the swap file, even on a 770 | 05:51 |
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| tom-davidson | hello pavlov and stskeeps thanks for your help yesterday with flashing my n810. took the usb hub out of the equation and it worked. | 06:38 |
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| tom-davidson | hi, does anyone know if maemo can use a swap partitino rather than a virtual mem file? | 07:07 |
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| Luke-Jr | tom-davidson: the difference being? | 07:09 |
| tom-davidson | when i boot mer or my experimental maemo it would use the same space ... the same space being the interanl memory and not the internal or exteral flash | 07:09 |
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| sarower | Good morning all | 07:37 |
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| sarower | for desktop widget (home screen applet) what is the mechanism to handle the drag (stylus motion) event. If i drag in the applet, system handles the drag event. How i can get the drag event from my applet | 07:39 |
| sarower | any body any help or any idea? | 07:39 |
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| sarower | X-Fade: Please help me! | 08:17 |
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| GnutOnMobile | morning | 09:01 |
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| hal9k2010 | hello all | 09:16 |
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| hal9k2010 | have some questions about the n800 and n810 anyone that can help ? | 09:17 |
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| ShadowJK | tom-davidson, you can't use the internal nand memory as flash | 09:18 |
| ShadowJK | as swap, I mean | 09:18 |
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| johnx | well, you probably could, but anyone who wants to can figure it out on their own and do it at their own peril | 09:21 |
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| tom-davidson | shadowjk: ok i understand better now that my swap should be on my external card. i missunderstood the internal raw nand... thought it didnt wear. BUT with swap on my external SD.,.. how do i get maemo to use it? | 09:47 |
| ShadowJK | I do: swapon /media/mmc1/.swap | 09:48 |
| ShadowJK | manually | 09:48 |
| ShadowJK | :/ | 09:48 |
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| johnx | a symlink, maybe? or just edit the boot script | 09:49 |
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| tom-davidson | shadowjk: johnx: thanks. i think the swapon was just want i wanted. | 10:29 |
| tom-davidson | goodnight | 10:29 |
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| yerga | qwerty12_N810, have you seen this? http://tinyurl.com/lmj49e | 12:22 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | yerga: hehe, I hadn't, thanks :) | 12:24 |
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| L0cutus | re | 12:41 |
| L0cutus | does exist a zfs-fuse port to maemo ? | 12:42 |
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| Andy80 | hi all | 13:07 |
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| X-Fade | Jaffa: ping? | 14:56 |
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| Jaffa | X-Fade: pong, but just going to grab lunch. Will repong in a bit... | 15:06 |
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| hendry | i need to automate armel builds | 15:33 |
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| hendry | so how do people do that generally? pbuilder? script /scratchbox/login | 15:33 |
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| lbt | hendry: in general? or for maemo specifically | 15:35 |
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| hendry | well say you have a debian packaged product, and you want to target maemo as well as Debianx86 | 15:37 |
| X-Fade | http://maemo.org/news/announcements/registration_maemo_summit_2009_open/ | 15:37 |
| hendry | right now, i checkout source. remove debconf stuff. login to scratchbox, dpkg-buildpackage, log out and dput | 15:38 |
| lbt | hendry: I ask because Mer uses an autobuilder called OBS | 15:38 |
| hendry | it's quite manual. | 15:38 |
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| lbt | I think you need to think about basing on orig.tar.gz | 15:39 |
| lbt | and providing debian.diff.gz and debian-maemo.diff.gz | 15:40 |
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| lbt | maemo has lots of scratchboxisms | 15:40 |
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| RST38h | in other words, it's all scratchy | 15:42 |
| lbt | and much of Mer packaging is about removing these | 15:42 |
| lbt | heh - it sure is | 15:43 |
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| hendry | Urghhh | 15:48 |
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| Andy80 | X-Fade, cool news :) | 15:50 |
| Andy80 | X-Fade, I'm registering ;) | 15:50 |
| X-Fade | Andy80: Hurry, only 293 places left ;) | 15:51 |
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| Andy80 | X-Fade, lol :D | 15:52 |
| Andy80 | X-Fade, I think the hardest part is "Reason for requesting Nokia sponsorship" ;) | 15:53 |
| lbt | X-Fade: Primary community project and Project ? Should that be "Other community projects" ? | 15:54 |
| RST38h | Andy80: That's easy - "NO MONEY" | 15:54 |
| Andy80 | X-Fade, there's a little error in wiki page, it's still present "Not yet, but for you to know:" right after "Registration", can I remove it? | 15:55 |
| X-Fade | Andy80: Sure. It is a wiki ;) | 15:55 |
| Andy80 | RST38h, and it's true, at least for me. I'm a student :( | 15:56 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Indeed. Will fix that. | 15:56 |
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| Andy80 | X-Fade, it doesn't let me go again to that page.... don't know why... it's better if you try to fix it | 16:00 |
| X-Fade | Andy80: Ah, I know where. I'll fix that. | 16:01 |
| Andy80 | ok | 16:02 |
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| Andy80 | X-Fade, the link that appears in the registration form (in my case: http://maemo.org/news/events/registrations/register/e840196271eb11deb15535a00f6d72187218 ) is personal/related to session-id, or is public? | 16:04 |
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| X-Fade | Andy80: That is the public url. | 16:05 |
| Andy80 | ok | 16:05 |
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| Andy80 | blogged too ;) | 16:12 |
| VDVsx | X-Fade, karma changes ? | 16:12 |
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| GAN800 | I hate this phone. | 16:19 |
| thux | why? | 16:19 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Description changed and added second column to the participants list. | 16:19 |
| RST38h | <he wants his Moto RAZR> | 16:19 |
| * RST38h hides | 16:19 | |
| GAN800 | Because it doesn't work correctly, and Nokia is a pretty shitty manufacturer. | 16:20 |
| thux | what model it is? | 16:20 |
| GAN800 | 5800 | 16:20 |
| RST38h | GAN: It is one of better Nokia phones, ironically :) | 16:21 |
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| lbt | hmmm the 2nd time I go to the form it says "Login" and just returns to that page | 16:21 |
| thux | i have old n85 and it works reasonable well | 16:22 |
| X-Fade | thux: N85 is not that old? | 16:22 |
| thux | but not as new as 5800 | 16:23 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, best nokia phone = n95 :P | 16:23 |
| till- | n82! | 16:23 |
| RST38h | VDV: It's a brick. | 16:23 |
| RST38h | E70 forever =) | 16:23 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, nah nah | 16:23 |
| RST38h | Although it is also a brick. | 16:23 |
| VDVsx | lol | 16:23 |
| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: for the true brick experience: E90 | 16:24 |
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| RST38h | qwerty: looks like a concealed gun when in the pocket | 16:24 |
| RST38h | qwerty: scary thing | 16:24 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | heh | 16:25 |
| RST38h | Seriously though, if Nokia does not deliver its maemophone soon enough, I will have to start shopping for a new phone =( | 16:25 |
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| VDVsx | RST38h, you need a iphone :P | 16:27 |
| RST38h | VDV: fuck that. | 16:27 |
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| Jaffa | X-Fade: I can't get back in to my registration | 16:29 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, not kidding now, samsung has/will have some interesting devices o_0 | 16:29 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: Hmm might be a rights setting. Let me see. | 16:29 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: despite being logged in on both http & https, it takes tme to a login page and doesn't let me get past it (no error) | 16:30 |
| RST38h | VDV: Not programmable | 16:30 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: Yeah, that sounds like a permission issue. | 16:30 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, you are registered | 16:30 |
| dieb_ | How to port c++ libraries to maemo? Which tools should be used? Specifically, does anyone know whether if libQxt is being ported? | 16:30 |
| lcuk | http://maemo.org/news/events/maemo_summit_2009/ | 16:30 |
| lcuk | listed here | 16:30 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, you can do some hacking for s60 and android :) | 16:30 |
| lcuk | it did the same with me | 16:30 |
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| X-Fade | lcuk: yeah, but you should be allowed to change things. | 16:31 |
| RST38h | VDV: They do have a few S60 devices but I have heard some nasty rumors about compatibility with mainline S60 apps | 16:31 |
| RST38h | dieb: Could you elaborate | 16:31 |
| RST38h | dieb; What exactly do you want to do? | 16:31 |
| lcuk | ahhhh | 16:31 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, ah right, nokia S60 != samsung s60, really a shame :( | 16:32 |
| hendry | how do people script /scratchbox/login? I want to : /scratchbox/login; cd code; fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -B | 16:32 |
| RST38h | it is more like ~= | 16:32 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I know. I wanted to change my "other community projects" ;-) | 16:32 |
| VDVsx | ;) | 16:32 |
| RST38h | Stuff runs but behaves weirdly | 16:32 |
| GAN800 | The login form is still broken to the point of uselessness in MicroB. | 16:33 |
| Jaffa | GAN800: The login infrastructure's pretty broken everywhere, IME ;-) | 16:33 |
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| GAN800 | Seemingly | 16:35 |
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| GAN800 | Needs to do away with the js or something. | 16:35 |
| GAN800 | It just plain doesn't work. | 16:36 |
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| lbt | dieb_: http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/ | 16:37 |
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| dieb_ | lbt: does it include Qxt? | 16:37 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: Better now? | 16:37 |
| lbt | qxt isn't specifically supported but should be easy to port and we'd like to add it to the gitorious repo | 16:37 |
| dieb_ | Qxt is not Qt | 16:37 |
| lbt | no it layers on it | 16:38 |
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| lbt | you'd need to get it working with the qt-maemo team | 16:38 |
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| lbt | that includes getting qxt people helping to package it | 16:38 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Works for me on microb? | 16:38 |
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| lbt | should be fairly easy | 16:39 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, N800 | 16:39 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: What does it do for you? | 16:39 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Focus issues? | 16:39 |
| dieb_ | lbt: is there anyone working on this already? | 16:39 |
| GAN800 | Probably not clearing the field properly or something stupid. | 16:40 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: No. | 16:40 |
| lbt | not qxt AFAIK - a few of us work on Qt | 16:40 |
| GAN800 | fkb | 16:40 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: Still broken. | 16:40 |
| GAN800 | Had to change my input settings to make it work. | 16:40 |
| * GAN800 wonders what he should put for projects. | 16:40 | |
| dieb_ | lbt: as I'll need Qxt on maemo, I'll probably give it a try porting it | 16:41 |
| RST38h | Wiki? | 16:41 |
| dieb_ | could you point me to any document related to ports ? | 16:41 |
| * RST38h does not quite understand what dieb wants | 16:42 | |
| RST38h | dieb: You just want to compile Qxt on Maemo? | 16:42 |
| lbt | http://gitorious.org/qt-maemo | 16:42 |
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| dieb_ | RST38h: yes | 16:48 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Worked fine on my N800 with vkb? | 16:48 |
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| GAN800 | X-Fade, try finger keyboard. | 16:51 |
| GAN800 | Which is the only keyboard enabled on my tablet. | 16:51 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Ok. | 16:51 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Worked fine. | 16:53 |
| GAN800 | Well, doesn't work here. | 16:53 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: click in username, finger keyboard username, pressed minimize, click password, finger keyboard password, minimize, click go? | 16:54 |
| GAN800 | Yes | 16:54 |
| X-Fade | That worked for me. | 16:54 |
| GAN800 | Also: tapping a field after information has been entered doesn't bring up that info in the fkb. | 16:54 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: That is a browser/fkb bug then? | 16:55 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Nothing happens to these fields with javascript? | 16:56 |
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| X-Fade | Jaffa: can you try again? | 16:59 |
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| lcuk | X-Fade, i just retried, and it indeed allows editing some fields. but the one jaffa mentioned (his projects) is still appearing to come from the default profile and unchangable | 17:25 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Yeah, those you need to change in your own profile. | 17:25 |
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| lcuk | so for jaffa's sake, if he changes them in his default profile, and then comes here to edit his application it should pick them up? | 17:26 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: It would show in the list already when you edit your profile. | 17:26 |
| lcuk | cool | 17:27 |
| lcuk | hows your wii arm | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | Hehe, pretty well ;) | 17:27 |
| lcuk | and are we planning on having one at the summit! | 17:27 |
| lcuk | or should we make our own :D | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Image a wrist-strap attached to a N900 ;) | 17:28 |
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| lcuk | oooh, you mean theres a lanyard attachment? | 17:29 |
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| X-Fade | No idea, but if you would make the N900 a wiimote it would be a good idea to have one at least ;) | 17:29 |
| lcuk | hah | 17:31 |
| lcuk | we should have these on the canals | 17:31 |
| lcuk | http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2007/02/27/like-a-hamster-ball-on-the-water | 17:31 |
| woglinde | lcuk haha | 17:33 |
| woglinde | looks the same as the land's one | 17:33 |
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| X-Fade | lcuk: Yeah, those are cool! | 17:36 |
| lcuk | indeed they are :D | 17:37 |
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| lcuk | what do you think is the biggest practical database in maemo (the one with big recordsets) ? | 17:37 |
| * lcuk needs some comparisons | 17:37 | |
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| LinuxCode | so we finally have got a name for the new Nxxx ? | 17:39 |
| GAN800 | No. | 17:40 |
| * LinuxCode is still waiting very patiently for news | 17:41 | |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 17:41 |
| lcuk | http://www.lolpix.com/pictures/8/Funny_Pictures_595.htm :) | 17:41 |
| * GAN800 is very, very tired. | 17:41 | |
| lcuk | LinuxCode, you need to sit up straight | 17:41 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | i cant | 17:42 |
| lcuk | cant have you slouching or nokia wont think you are ready | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | my cat is occupying the office chair | 17:42 |
| lcuk | your cat will make a very nice comfortable cushion then | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | i disagree | 17:42 |
| lcuk | it will quickly move :) | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | dont bet on it | 17:43 |
| lcuk | or will rip your ass to shreds | 17:43 |
| LinuxCode | its claws and teeth will move | 17:43 |
| lcuk | one way or the other, you will know | 17:43 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 17:43 |
| LinuxCode | yep | 17:43 |
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| LinuxCode | maybe I should send nokia my cat | 17:44 |
| LinuxCode | maybe that would speed things up | 17:44 |
| LinuxCode | meeeeeeooooooowwwwww | 17:44 |
| lcuk | dont bet upon it. once the nokians get word theres some pussy skulking around, you really think they will do any work? | 17:45 |
| LinuxCode | probably not | 17:47 |
| lcuk | this looks like the back of my pooter | 17:47 |
| lcuk | http://www.lolpix.com/pictures/11/Funny_Pictures_594.htm | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | mine is all tidy | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | bought some radaitor pipe covering stuff and screwed that under the desk | 17:48 |
| lcuk | i used to lay everything down nice and neat | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | now all cables lay within that | 17:48 |
| lcuk | heh, thats all well and good until you need to change one wire | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | theres plenty of space | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | easy to thread | 17:48 |
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| Talus_Laptop | cool | 18:01 |
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| Talus_Laptop | maemo videos | 18:01 |
| Talus_Laptop | http://garrgle.net/?qkw=maemo&qcat=video&qcoll=relevance&rfcid=6000&rfcp=IntelliFindTop&_iceUrlFlag=11?_IceUrl=true | 18:01 |
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| lcuk | does anyone have any experience with bloom filters | 18:09 |
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| fiferboy | Hi lbt | 18:53 |
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| woglinde | hi fiferboy | 19:01 |
| fiferboy | woglinde: Hi | 19:01 |
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| Jaffa | X-Fade: perfect | 19:29 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: but I can't change my "other projects" anyway, ho hum. | 19:30 |
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| wazd | wee, 931 Gb of free space :P | 19:56 |
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| slonopotamus | wazd, oh noes! you purged all porn? | 19:57 |
| * Luke-Jr beats slonopotamus | 19:58 | |
| wazd | slonopotamus: I bought new HDD to get MORE! | 19:58 |
| slonopotamus | :D | 19:58 |
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| wazd | xD | 19:58 |
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| RST38h | ehlo all | 19:59 |
| wazd | RST38h: heya | 20:00 |
| RST38h | wazd: how are things? =) | 20:00 |
| wazd | RST38h: just got new terabyte HDD :) Now my nightmare bout "where to store all those goddamn RAW photos" is finally over :) | 20:01 |
| RST38h | well, it is a bit delayed now :) | 20:01 |
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| wazd | RST38h: I hope to buy BD-R asap :) | 20:02 |
| wazd | RST38h: as soon as they'll stop having such a ridiculous price | 20:03 |
| wazd | RST38h: but first I need proper display cause my current starting to say "I'm dying, kill me!" :) | 20:03 |
| RST38h | wazd: Optical disks are said to have short lives | 20:04 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Apple display? =) | 20:05 |
| wazd | RST38h: I can still run Carmageddon from CD so I think it's more marketing bullshit than something serious | 20:05 |
| RST38h | wazd: It's not. | 20:06 |
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| wazd | RST38h: well, this CD is right from 1997 or something :) | 20:06 |
| RST38h | wazd: I tried reading a few 3-year-old backup CDRs once, and got very mixed results (and yes, I used the tool that detects crc errors too) | 20:06 |
| RST38h | wazd: Is it a pressed CD or a CDR? | 20:06 |
| wazd | RST38h: pirate cd :) | 20:07 |
| RST38h | wazd: Those also come in two varieties | 20:07 |
| RST38h | Back in 1997 they were USUALLY pressed though | 20:07 |
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| wazd | RST38h: I want something like this: http://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?hid=91052&modelid=2485880 | 20:09 |
| lcuk | wazd, the nightmare is never over. when you think you solved the problem with a bigger harddrive, you actually made it worse because its impractical to do offline backup | 20:10 |
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| wazd | RST38h: pretty expensive but a very good one | 20:11 |
| wazd | lcuk: RAW photos are *really* big :) | 20:11 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Hey Andrew, are you around? | 20:11 |
| lcuk | and your tears will be even greater when you lose more data | 20:11 |
| wazd | lcuk: don't think that anyone will allow me to store that much somewhere in the net | 20:12 |
| lcuk | i know they are massive, i have similar situation with my own data | 20:12 |
| lcuk | theoretically wazd, you can push quite insane amounts of data at the net | 20:12 |
| lcuk | and have a good chance of getting some back | 20:13 |
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| RST38h | wazd: There is also a similarly specced Samsung | 20:14 |
| RST38h | wazd: May come cheaper | 20:14 |
| wazd | RST38h: everyone says that this HP is a true must-have :) | 20:15 |
| wazd | RST38h: I haven't read any negative opinion bout it. I mean any :) | 20:15 |
| RST38h | wazd: There is something suspicious about it | 20:16 |
| RST38h | wazd: A 24" monitor can't cost $1000+, even here | 20:16 |
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| wazd | RST38h: If it was benq or something - I would agree with you :) | 20:16 |
| RST38h | wazd: Any monitor | 20:16 |
| RST38h | wazd: A moment, lemme check around | 20:16 |
| wazd | RST38h: It's a dreamcolor series, 102% NTSC :) | 20:16 |
| lbt | hi fiferboy | 20:17 |
| RST38h | wazd: Still. | 20:17 |
| fiferboy | coldboot, lbt hey | 20:17 |
| wazd | RST38h: it doesn't cost 1000+ btw, it costs near 1000 | 20:17 |
| fiferboy | hi wazd | 20:17 |
| RST38h | wazd: Ok, Froogle shows it starting at $435 in the US, with average price about $550 | 20:17 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: So I managed to build the 4.5.2 of the fix, without segfaults. | 20:17 |
| wazd | $985 | 20:17 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I can't build 4.5.0 because of some stupid include path problem. | 20:18 |
| wazd | fiferboy: heya! | 20:18 |
| RST38h | wazd: rur33000 is >$1000 right now | 20:18 |
| wazd | RST38h: that's TN | 20:18 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I am just testing your latest fix now. | 20:18 |
| RST38h | wazd: I am just searching for LP2475W | 20:18 |
| wazd | RST38h: check out price.ru | 20:18 |
| RST38h | wazd: Should I add something else to the id? | 20:18 |
| RST38h | wazd: checking | 20:18 |
| wazd | RST38h: 29058 р. ($985.02) | 20:18 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I have done a major refactoring on how overshoot is calculated | 20:19 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I still don't get the keyboard pop down... | 20:19 |
| wazd | RST38h: Non-TN 24" screen can't cost less than 800 bucks | 20:19 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: hmmmm | 20:19 |
| RST38h | wazd: It is about twice more expensive than in US | 20:19 |
| RST38h | wazd: Unless I am missing some letter in the product id | 20:20 |
| wazd | RST38h: yep, that's HP | 20:20 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Clicking a line edit pops it up, but clicking a checkbox or drop down doesn't get rid of it | 20:20 |
| wazd | RST38h: it's like Apple in PC world | 20:20 |
| RST38h | wazd: HP is the brand name :) | 20:20 |
| lcuk | wazd, that looks like an impressive monitor | 20:20 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: Actually, a non-editable drop down does pop it down, my mistake | 20:21 |
| lbt | so I see | 20:21 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: For some reason a check box does not. And after clicking the checkbox, key presses get sent to the line edit | 20:21 |
| wazd | RST38h: I bought my HP mini 2133 in US for about 550 bucks and it still costs more in here | 20:22 |
| RST38h | wazd: but twice more? hmmm | 20:22 |
| fiferboy | lbt: It makes things simpler in most cases, but it is (at least the way I did it) more complicated during AutoScroll | 20:22 |
| RST38h | wazd: Ok, I have got some "secret" info: this monitor uses an IPS LCD panel from LG | 20:22 |
| lbt | One area I'm unhappy about is the x/y seperation/code replication | 20:23 |
| lcuk | http://www.trustedreviews.com/monitors/review/2009/03/27/HP-LP2475w---24in-H-IPS-Display/p4 :) | 20:23 |
| fiferboy | lbt: Where is that? | 20:23 |
| RST38h | wazd: Let us see if there is an LG display with the same part ;) | 20:23 |
| lbt | if (yScrollState == AutoScroll) ...... if (xScrollState == AutoScroll) | 20:23 |
| fiferboy | lbt: Oh, you mean in general in the event filer | 20:23 |
| wazd | RST38h: oh, not LG for god sake :) | 20:23 |
| lbt | not in your work | 20:23 |
| fiferboy | lbt: Yes, there should be a way around that... | 20:24 |
| lbt | yes, in general | 20:24 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I'm trying to figure out a way to make the AutoScroll overshoot more straight forward | 20:25 |
| wazd | lcuk: yep, that baby is goddamn beast :) | 20:25 |
| lcuk | the video review shows it nicely | 20:25 |
| fiferboy | There are three cases, just plain autoscroll through the body of the list, autoscroll through the body with overshoot at the end, and a list starting out in overshoot (from ManualScroll) and scrolling through the list | 20:26 |
| RST38h | wazd: Monitors are commodity nowadays. As long as they both use the same panel you will hardly see the difference | 20:26 |
| lbt | yes | 20:26 |
| coldboot | How can I include qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h from qwidget.cpp in 4.5.0? It works fine in 4.5.2, because it's in private/, but 4.5.0 doesn't generate it the same way... | 20:26 |
| lcuk | RST38h, but the package there seems neat too :) i have an lg here and have no complains, but that monitor rox | 20:26 |
| fiferboy | Actually, there is a fourth corner case where the list starts out in overshoot and tries to AutoScroll past the limit, but that is easy to take care of | 20:26 |
| * lcuk stands with wazd on this debate | 20:26 | |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Ah, so the hide command isn't being sent. | 20:26 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: If you click on the drop down, the keyboard hides, does it still send keys to the LineEdit? | 20:27 |
| RST38h | lcuk: ah my point is that this HP uses an LG panel | 20:27 |
| wazd | RST38h: Maybe I'm just a snob but I'll better trust that much money to HP :) | 20:27 |
| RST38h | lcuk: So why not cut a corner and buy directly from Koreans :) | 20:27 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Even though, you said if you click a checkbox, the keyboard does NOT go away, AND keys still got to the LineEdit. | 20:27 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I can't check, the keyboard is hidden ;) | 20:27 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Oh yeah. | 20:27 |
| RST38h | wazd: I do not really trust the "new" HP though... | 20:27 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Well that's not really a problem then. | 20:27 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Because when the keyboard is shown, the proxy gets set. | 20:27 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I think it is not a problem with your code if it hides for one widget but not another | 20:28 |
| wazd | RST38h: My mini is absolutely solid :) | 20:28 |
| RST38h | wazd: Same shit as DELL, as far as I am concerned... Still respect their old lab equipment and calcs | 20:28 |
| RST38h | wazd: Yea, Mini is nice =) | 20:28 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: They keyboard shouldn't go away when checking a checkbox, probably. | 20:28 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Yes, and when it doesn't hide it stays on the first widget | 20:28 |
| lcuk | RST38h, sometimes cutting corners isnt what is needed :) | 20:28 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: Could you check un an unpatched Qt install? | 20:28 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: I bet that behaviour is intentional. "Doo dee doo, I'm typing in a text box, oh let me check that box over there, now I'll type some more". | 20:28 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Could we be | 20:28 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I can check | 20:29 |
| fiferboy | s/we/well/ | 20:29 |
| infobot | fiferboy meant: coldboot: Could well be | 20:29 |
| wazd | lcuk: damn, video review is like porno for me :( | 20:29 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Shopper? | 20:29 |
| lcuk | heh | 20:29 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I'm not sure if there are check boxes near input fields, I am using my own program to test | 20:29 |
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| coldboot | lcuk: Do you know how I could include qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h from qwidget.cpp? I include "private/qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h" which is a generated location in maemo 4.5.2, but in 4.5.0 it's not being copied there... | 20:30 |
| wazd | RST38h: lcuk: right now I have http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/tft-monitor/fujitsu-siemens-scaleoview-w19-1/ | 20:30 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I bet it's in the original behaviour. There's no reason my code would cause the bug in this checkbox situation, and not for other widgets. | 20:30 |
| lcuk | coldboot, i know no specifics about qt | 20:31 |
| wazd | One of the best TN screens out there | 20:31 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I bet checkboxes never get focus, because they don't do anything after you click them. | 20:31 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Next time I make a build I will take out your code and see how it acts | 20:31 |
| coldboot | lcuk: k | 20:31 |
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| lbt | checkboxes do get focus | 20:33 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Found similar LG monitor for rur27434 | 20:34 |
| lbt | you can use arrow/tab keystrokes to move focus and space to select | 20:34 |
| wazd | RST38h: I'd better add 1500 and buy HP :) | 20:34 |
| wazd | RST38h: seriously :) | 20:34 |
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| RST38h | wazd: incredible brand loyalty =) | 20:35 |
| wazd | RST38h: maybe :) | 20:35 |
| wazd | RST38h: can you give me the link to LG? | 20:35 |
| RST38h | wazd: http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/lg-l246wp-bn-flat/4505-3174_7-32443394.html | 20:36 |
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| wazd | RST38h: # TFT Technology MVA | 20:37 |
| RST38h | wazd: Other sites say IPS | 20:38 |
| wazd | RST38h: they are damn slow | 20:38 |
| RST38h | Ok, I have found something better: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/search.php?query=&select=model | 20:38 |
| wazd | RST38h: even S-IPS are slow | 20:38 |
| RST38h | Simply search for the panel name | 20:38 |
| wazd | RST38h: HP has H-IPS - latest stuff | 20:38 |
| RST38h | wazd: So does Phillips apparently | 20:38 |
| wazd | RST38h: 24"WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU4) | 20:39 |
| RST38h | aha | 20:39 |
| wazd | RST38h: looks like phil is not available in here | 20:40 |
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| wazd | RST38h: and it's ugly :D | 20:40 |
| RST38h | wazd: Yep. price.ru knows nothing of it | 20:41 |
| RST38h | HP does look like the only game n town, this would explain the price | 20:41 |
| wazd | RST38h: HP knows that Pro-display shouldn't have any lights and bling-bling on the front :) | 20:41 |
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| RST38h | wazd: I am sure it is simply a mistake on their part :) | 20:43 |
| RST38h | wazd: Forgot to include the Blue LED (tm) | 20:43 |
| RST38h | wazd: My BBK has got such a huge Blue LED (tm) that it can be used for reading at night | 20:43 |
| wazd | RST38h: BBK, eeeek :) | 20:44 |
| lbt | DGM... | 20:44 |
| RST38h | wazd: it's a dvd player/recorder, not a monitor :) | 20:44 |
| RST38h | wazd: can't really fault them for their av stuff, it is semidecent | 20:45 |
| wazd | RST38h: crappy "look at yourself, bitch!" apple cinema 24 costs fricking $1300 | 20:45 |
| wazd | RST38h: oh, I have BORG with same huge blue led stuff :) | 20:46 |
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| wazd | RST38h: won it in karaoke contest :D | 20:46 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Ah, fashion! | 20:47 |
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| wazd | RST38h: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/9774/a76lt5.jpg | 20:50 |
| wazd | RST38h: nec 2490 on the left, HP on the right | 20:50 |
| wazd | RST38h: but Nec is insane expensive and slow :( | 20:51 |
| wazd | RST38h: it's like 40000 rur or something | 20:51 |
| RST38h | wazd: This is the same panel? I can't believe it... | 20:54 |
| RST38h | That must be some camera effect... | 20:54 |
| wazd | RST38h: no, nec is MVA if I remember correct | 20:55 |
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| wazd | RST38h: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWbsOeFKms | 20:56 |
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| RST38h | ah ok | 20:57 |
| RST38h | wazd: So, MVA has got better blacks at the cost of speed? Or the viewing angle? | 20:58 |
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| wazd | RST38h: they are damn slow | 20:58 |
| RST38h | oh | 20:58 |
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| RST38h | wazd: have you considered monitors with led backlight? | 21:03 |
| wazd | RST38h: I'm considering any monitor with good picture and affordable price :) | 21:04 |
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| RST38h | Ah so LED ones are even more expensive... | 21:06 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: I seem to have forgotten how to build qt-maemo 4.5.2, the debian directory is missing in branch qt-diablo... | 21:09 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: From your git clone you checked out origin/4.5 and then from there checked out origin/qt-diablo? | 21:10 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah | 21:10 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: git branch says you are in the qt-diablo branch? | 21:10 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah. | 21:10 |
| fiferboy | What is the last commit message in git log? | 21:10 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I merged qt-diablo with him-proxy, though. | 21:10 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: In the qt-diablo branch you did 'git merge him-proxy'? | 21:11 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah, I did that. | 21:11 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: Last message that's not mine: Crash fix. Qt apps crash when backspace is pressed and autocapitalization is active | 21:11 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: In my qt-diablo branch, the last message that is not mine is "Update debian/changelog..." | 21:12 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: When did you do your clone? | 21:12 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: A couple of weeks ago, it used to have debian in there... Because I did dpkg-buildpackage two days ago... | 21:13 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: From 4.5 branch, try wiping out your qt-diablo branch and checking it out again | 21:13 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: You might want to refresh your clone first, there are some speed improvements in 4.5.2-1maemo2 | 21:14 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: How do I do that? | 21:14 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: 'git checkout master', 'git pull', 'git checkout 4.5', 'git branch -D qt-diablo', 'git checkout -b qt-diablo origin/qt-diablo' | 21:15 |
| fiferboy | I think | 21:15 |
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| fiferboy | Then you can do your merge | 21:15 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Although, would that update purely from your clone, or update your clone from qt-maemo? | 21:15 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: That will come from my clone directly. | 21:16 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: It's tracking qt-diablo, but it's still missing debian/ | 21:16 |
| coldboot | Weird. | 21:16 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I'm not exactly sure how you would update your clone from qt-maemo... | 21:16 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Even if you switch to your 4.5 branch, delete the qt-diablo branch and re-check it out? | 21:17 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah | 21:17 |
| coldboot | I think I messed up qt-diablo with some push | 21:17 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: That is strange. Maybe you modified your qt-diablo branch locally and pushed it to your clone? | 21:18 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I know I have done that, my qt-diablo branch is a bit screwed up now | 21:18 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I only do 'git push origin HEAD' from the branch I want to update now | 21:20 |
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| coldboot | I need to make qt-diablo track qt-maemo/qt-diablo somehow. | 21:21 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: You can add the qt-maemo repository as a remote and make a branch from that | 21:21 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Then you should be able to push the corrected branch to your clone | 21:22 |
| esaym153 | ugh | 21:22 |
| esaym153 | I want my backordered n810 from nokia right now | 21:22 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: I added qt-maemo as a remote, but I can't find qt-diablo with `git ls-remote qt-maemo` | 21:26 |
| * mgedmin registers for the maemo summit | 21:26 | |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Did you do a fetch? | 21:26 |
| * fiferboy thinks about registering for the maemo summit | 21:26 | |
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| * jeremiah Hmm. Didn't know summit regustration was open. | 21:26 | |
| jeremiah | How about a URL mgedmin? | 21:27 |
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| mgedmin | planet.maemo.org just had a couple of links | 21:27 |
| jeremiah | Cool. | 21:27 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I got it! Yeah I had to fetch. | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | eeeek! http://maemo.org/news/events/registrations/register/e840196271eb11deb15535a00f6d72187218 | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | what a SCARY link | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | does an event like the "maemo-summit-2009" *really* need a long, hexadecimal UUID? | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's technical hardcore! | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:28 |
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| fiferboy | It's to scare off people who aren't serious | 21:28 |
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| mgedmin | now I'm wondering if that's maybe a permalink to my personal details page :) | 21:29 |
| RST38h | mgedmin: Yes! | 21:29 |
| esaym153 | amsterdam? pot smokers can program? | 21:29 |
| RST38h | And you should be thankful they only used hex digits... | 21:29 |
| adeus | if you're doing c or c++, pot is the minimum | 21:31 |
| esaym153 | I like c++ | 21:31 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Let me know if you are able to clean up your qt-diablo branch in your clone | 21:31 |
| esaym153 | as long as math isn't involved | 21:31 |
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| chx | mgedmin: thats not an UUID | 21:32 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: checkbox doesn't clear the vkb in the old him code either | 21:32 |
| chx | mgedmin: to my eyes that looks like an md5 sum but i might be mistaken | 21:32 |
| chx | mgedmin: i have not counted the digits | 21:32 |
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| mgedmin | 144 bits | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | to distinguish it from all the 2**144 other events taking place in the maemo community | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | we would't want to accidentally mix it up with e840196271eb11bed15535a00f6d72187218, now would we? | 21:33 |
| RST38h | we wouldn't? | 21:34 |
| lcuk | are you sure? that one involves pole dancing | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | polish national dances don't interest me in the least | 21:35 |
| mgedmin | one polka is just like another | 21:35 |
| lcuk | :D | 21:35 |
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| lbt | git checkout --track origin/qt-diablo | 21:39 |
| lbt | nm ... I was backscrolled a long way | 21:39 |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: qt-diablo is clean in my clone now. | 21:43 |
| Jaffa | mgedmin: Taking all the best undecipherable UUIDs from Lotus Notes into the Web 2.0 world... | 21:43 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Okay then the checkbox bug is unrelated, if it really is a bug. | 21:43 |
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| fiferboy | coldboot: That's good to know, I'm going to clean up my branch too | 21:44 |
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| jeremiah | Wow, cool. Jim Zemlin will be talking at the Maemo summit. | 21:55 |
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| jeremiah | Look forward to that. | 21:55 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Did you just do a 'git push origin HEAD' or did you have to force it? | 21:57 |
| coldboot | coldboot: I did `git push origin qt-diablo --force` | 21:59 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I just refreshed my clone's branch from your clone's branch (since I already had it as a remote) :) | 22:00 |
| slonopotamus | why would anyone want to do --force? | 22:00 |
| fiferboy | slonopotamus: because we accidentally commited changes to the branch and wanted to revert it | 22:00 |
| slonopotamus | :/ | 22:00 |
| slonopotamus | commit reverse diffs? | 22:01 |
| lbt | git doesn't force you to air dirty laundry | 22:01 |
| fiferboy | slonopotamus: It is in personal clones that aren't being used by other people | 22:01 |
| slonopotamus | if anyone pulled that between your 'wrong' commit and --force, he'll be in trouble | 22:01 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Cool | 22:01 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I love git. Every day I find out how much more I love it. | 22:02 |
| slonopotamus | fiferboy, oh, ok | 22:02 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: With all other software, I hate it more every day. | 22:02 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: I even hate Windows more each day, because I realize how it can surprise me with undiscovered uselessness. | 22:02 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: git is certainly making my life easier, it is hard to beleive how useful it is | 22:02 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Those are undocumented features... | 22:02 |
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| coldboot | haha | 22:03 |
| fiferboy | Everytime I think I need git to do something it doesn't, it turns out it does I just didn't know it | 22:04 |
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| dougt_ | are there APIs to get the HW version? | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | except for /proc/component_version? :P | 22:28 |
| dougt_ | anything cleaner? | 22:28 |
| Jaffa | That's pretty clean | 22:29 |
| Jaffa | Horizon checks /etc/maemo_version at startup for a 5.0 to disable its OSSO support (segfaults in PyMaemo) | 22:29 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, why you want that? | 22:30 |
| dougt_ | what I would really like to do is to determine the real DPI. | 22:31 |
| dougt_ | not the stuff reported to x | 22:31 |
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| slonopotamus | dougt_, you should ask display for that, no? | 22:31 |
| slonopotamus | x gets smth wrong? | 22:32 |
| dougt_ | xdpyinfo reports 96 | 22:32 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, under Xomap? | 22:33 |
| dougt_ | on device, y | 22:33 |
| dougt_ | is it suppose to report something else? ;-) | 22:33 |
| dougt_ | i thought it was common for X to lie about DPI | 22:33 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, afaik, it's X who lies. | 22:33 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, X was patched to report incorrect value on purpose | 22:34 |
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| dougt_ | right. | 22:34 |
| dougt_ | so, what I need is to get at the real dpi value. | 22:35 |
| dougt_ | i was thinking about just looking at the hw version, and deciding based on that. i didn't find a way to get the actual dpi via an api or something like that | 22:35 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, there must be smth low-level that tells X screen dpi | 22:36 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, if you just want to hardcode it - /proc/component_version is absolutely ok | 22:36 |
| dougt_ | yeah. | 22:36 |
| dougt_ | but not something I would be very proud of. | 22:37 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, i think you'd better ask that on X-related channel. 'how X determines screen dpi' or smth like that | 22:38 |
| dougt_ | yup. | 22:38 |
| qwerty12_N810 | dougt_: if it'd make you feel any better: the hildon-application-manager does it like that (look at component_version) | 22:38 |
| slonopotamus | hehe | 22:38 |
| dougt_ | heh | 22:39 |
| slonopotamus | dougt_, that means 'you app will suck as h-a-m' :D | 22:39 |
| slonopotamus | no offence, just kidding :) | 22:39 |
| dougt_ | :-) | 22:40 |
| dougt_ | a bunch of people do that. | 22:40 |
| dougt_ | haf does too? | 22:40 |
| * slonopotamus doesn't understand why dpi matters, actually | 22:41 | |
| lbt | dpi usually comes from ... <rummage in Xorg.log> ....EDID | 22:41 |
| dougt_ | slonopotamus: computers don't matter either. ;-) | 22:41 |
| ShadowJK | ugh, wonderful... dd if=/dev/sdh | sha1sum | 22:42 |
| ShadowJK | twice... doesn't match | 22:42 |
| slonopotamus | ShadowJK, oh my | 22:42 |
| slonopotamus | ShadowJK, why it should? | 22:42 |
| ShadowJK | Because the contents is unchanged | 22:42 |
| slonopotamus | ShadowJK, how do you know that? | 22:42 |
| ShadowJK | it's not mounted, nothing should be touching it | 22:43 |
| ShadowJK | especially not writing to it | 22:43 |
| slonopotamus | oh | 22:43 |
| slonopotamus | then you're in trouble | 22:43 |
| * ShadowJK wonders whether to blame the usb hub, the card reader, the minisd-sd converter or the minisd card | 22:43 | |
| slonopotamus | omg | 22:44 |
| slonopotamus | try replacing them one by one :P | 22:44 |
| slonopotamus | start with card | 22:44 |
| ShadowJK | mm | 22:44 |
| ShadowJK | A USB memory stick on same USB hub passes this test | 22:49 |
| * ShadowJK tries with another usb memory stick | 22:49 | |
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| coldboot | fiferboy: Can you comment on my merge request? | 22:51 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: Sure thing | 22:52 |
| coldboot | http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-maemo-developers/qt/qt-maemo/merge_requests/952 | 22:52 |
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| ShadowJK | hah | 23:16 |
| ShadowJK | passes test: usb -> card reader, usb -> hub -> card reader | 23:17 |
| ShadowJK | fails test: usb -> hub -> { card reader, usb pendrive } | 23:17 |
| ShadowJK | but the pendrive passes | 23:17 |
| ShadowJK | usb is shit :-( | 23:17 |
| timeless_mbp | too much power drawn? | 23:18 |
| ShadowJK | powered hub... | 23:18 |
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| lbt | hmmm http://gitorious.org/maemo-af/vala3 | 23:19 |
| ShadowJK | (external adapter) | 23:19 |
| lbt | Jaffa: ^^ | 23:19 |
| ShadowJK | The hub consumes 100mA, the card reader says 100mA and the pendrive says 100mA :/ | 23:19 |
| ShadowJK | so it should be fine even if it was self-powered | 23:19 |
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| lcuk | ShadowJK, not fine | 23:24 |
| lcuk | my keyboard is 100ma | 23:24 |
| lcuk | problem is, power draw increases as you chord more keys | 23:24 |
| lcuk | it crashed the machine if i pressed >2 keys | 23:24 |
| javispedro | whoo ramzswap! | 23:26 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I found another problem, but I'm not sure if it was pre-existing | 23:26 |
| javispedro | i remember reading both very optimistic and very pessimistic reviews about it :D | 23:27 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: If I get the keyboard to pop-down by selecting a non-input widget, I can't get it to pop-up again on an input widget | 23:27 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I'm going to test the code before your patch, because I suspect it has nothing to do with your code | 23:27 |
| fiferboy | coldboot: I will update you (and the merge request) when I find out more, but I have to go now | 23:28 |
| woglinde | hi javispedro | 23:29 |
| fiferboy | lbt: Could you review my changes in my clone? There are still some problems in certain cases when autoscrolling starts with an overshoot | 23:29 |
| javispedro | hi woglinde :) | 23:29 |
| lbt | fiferboy: I am desperately trying to finalise the OBS work and get some Qt time... :) | 23:29 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I'll continue to look at it tonight, but my refactor may not be the best solution. | 23:29 |
| lbt | sadly I got zero assistance from anyone els in the maemo community on this stuff ... nm :) | 23:30 |
| fiferboy | lbt: That's fine, I'll spend another day or so on it and decide if it is feasible | 23:30 |
| coldboot | fiferboy: Thanks. | 23:30 |
| lbt | no, go slow... I want to get involved ;) | 23:30 |
| lbt | gui's are more fun than build services! | 23:30 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I'll look into eliminating some repetition as well | 23:30 |
| lbt | (which is probably why I'm on my own!) | 23:31 |
| lbt | sure -- It may make sense to duplicate the code you know | 23:31 |
| Jaffa | lbt: cool. | 23:31 |
| fiferboy | lbt: It's good when someone is actually willing to improve the build service, too bad there is no help | 23:31 |
| fiferboy | lbt: It seems like the duplication may be necessary because yScrollState and xScrollState can be different | 23:32 |
| Jaffa | lbt: WTF? "vala - Maemo's version of Vala"; "vala3 - Don't Ask" | 23:32 |
| lbt | yes, I couldn't see an easy solution back then | 23:32 |
| lbt | Jaffa: thought you may be interested... | 23:32 |
| lbt | vala3 = Qt ? | 23:32 |
| fiferboy | Anyhoo, I'm off. Talk to you later | 23:32 |
| lbt | take care!! | 23:32 |
| fiferboy | lbt: BTW, have you registered for the summit? | 23:33 |
| fiferboy | I am trying to decide whether I should go.. | 23:33 |
| lbt | yes... | 23:33 |
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| fiferboy | I'll have to check with my pregnant wife if I'm able to take the time off ;) | 23:34 |
| lbt | ah | 23:34 |
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| lbt | shoulda thought of that back then shouldn't you... | 23:34 |
| fiferboy | Also, it would depend on sponsorship, so I should probably apply as soon as possible | 23:35 |
| lbt | I would | 23:35 |
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| Jaffa | lbt: that's what I'm wondering/hoping | 23:35 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I know, bad planning. Summit in September, baby in November | 23:35 |
| * Jaffa emailing mvo | 23:35 | |
| fiferboy | Toodle-oo! | 23:35 |
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| lbt | Jaffa : http://gitorious.org/maemo-af/vala3/commits/master | 23:36 |
| lbt | I'd say not | 23:36 |
| Jaffa | lbt: Indeed. | 23:36 |
| * lbt goes to package cross-glibc and patchelf ... | 23:37 | |
| * Jaffa goes to bed. | 23:37 | |
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| woglinde | good nite jaffa | 23:38 |
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| coldboot | lbt: Do you know much about how Qt configures itself? | 23:46 |
| lbt | build time? | 23:46 |
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| coldboot | lbt: I'm still trying to get src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputmethodprotocol.h to be copied to include/QtGui/private in 4.5.0... In 4.5.2 it's been renamed to *_p.h, which makes bin/synqt treat it differently, and I've renamed all instances of it in every file, but it's still not copied over. | 23:47 |
| lbt | and why 4.5.0 ? | 23:49 |
| lbt | do we care? | 23:49 |
| coldboot | lbt: You don't care, but I need this to backport the flicker fix to the version of Qt we have deployed. | 23:49 |
| lbt | ah, OK | 23:49 |
| coldboot | I was wondering if you knew how Qt did this sort of thing. | 23:49 |
| lbt | sure | 23:49 |
| lbt | no idea :) | 23:49 |
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| coldboot | :( | 23:49 |
| coldboot | I'm gonna see when it was renamed in qt-maemo. | 23:50 |
| lbt | pickaxe | 23:50 |
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| lbt | wow | 23:53 |
| lbt | start up gitk | 23:53 |
| lbt | select 'find touching paths' | 23:53 |
| coldboot | Running `git log -S` on qt-maemo takes a while... | 23:53 |
| lbt | and 19fcd40645b263923d316326e2c7bde71cb27c5c | 23:54 |
| coldboot | Where is "find touching paths"? | 23:54 |
| coldboot | Got it | 23:55 |
| coldboot | for qt-maemo? | 23:55 |
| lbt | middle drpdown | 23:55 |
| lbt | says "containing" | 23:55 |
| coldboot | Put 19fcd40645b263923d316326e2c7bde71cb27c5c in the find string, leave it as exact and all fields? | 23:55 |
| lbt | Find <next> <prev> commit ...<dropdown> | 23:55 |
| lbt | no | 23:55 |
| lbt | change the dropdown to "touching paths" | 23:55 |
| coldboot | yep | 23:55 |
| lbt | pu src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputmethodprotocol.h | 23:55 |
| lbt | in the the string | 23:56 |
| coldboot | Holy crap. | 23:56 |
| lbt | fiferboy would wet himself | 23:56 |
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| coldboot | That is amazing. | 23:58 |
| woglinde | hm what? | 23:58 |
| coldboot | I don't get it then, all they did was rename the file, and change the .pri file, and anything that includes it. | 23:58 |
| coldboot | I re-ran configure as it's run by dpkg-buildpackage... | 23:59 |
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