IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2009-07-21

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coldbootlbt: Hey lbt, are you there?00:17
lbtenjoying a glass of drambuie00:17
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lbtwhich is a yes...00:19
coldbootI don't see where the hildonCommands are getting received.00:20
TimRikeris the source to the video call app available in maemo yet? if not, does anyone have a nokia contact to talk to about it? we're releasing a smartphone with video calling, and it would be nice to let them interoperate.00:20
coldbootI've been debugging QApplication::x11ProcessEvent, and keywidget never gets set to anything.00:21
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lbtMy Qt build environment is in bits at the moment .. very frustrating 'cos I want to get into this00:22
coldbootlbt: What happened to it?00:22
lbtI merged up to 4.5.2-mer100:23
coldbootlbt: With git?00:25
coldbootWhat did you have before?00:25
lbtyes00:25
coldbootYou can checkout another branch00:26
lbtsec00:26
lbthttp://gitorious.org/+mer/qt/qt-mer00:27
lbtMy git runs on Mer00:27
coldbootWhat does Mer replace?00:27
lbtheh a lot00:27
coldbootWhat is it?00:27
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lbtmainly cleans up sbox-ism00:27
coldbootlbt: So you don't need to use Scratchbox at all?00:28
lbtno00:28
lbtpure qemu build00:28
lbtpure chroot00:28
lbtit's nice but slow00:28
lbtI spent the weekend working on a technique to inject 586 binaries into an arm qemu chroot00:29
lbtlike sbox but transparently00:29
lbtand using the same version as the distro00:29
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lbtsome build deps differ00:30
lbtI merged the 'append -qt4' patch into git00:30
lbtthe Mer Qt has fingerscroll (of course)00:31
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ds3Mer QT? isthat implying the next NIT-OS will have QT elements in it?00:32
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lbtds3 that's old news :)00:32
lbtHarmattan will support Qt00:32
ds3old is relative.... some of us are a little bit hehind :(00:32
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lbtnp00:33
woglindethe actual nit has qt00:33
johnsqsay welcome to the slowness00:33
lbtmy actual nit00:33
lbthas Qt00:33
* lbt says welcome to Gentoo00:33
lbtQt is noticeably quicker than gtk for me00:34
lbtI ported a gtk (well gtkmm) app to Qt and was amazed at how much quicker it ran00:34
woglindelbt *g*00:34
lbtWho knows debhelper stuff?00:36
lcuksome of the debian guys at debconf might00:36
lbthold on ... browser crashing...00:36
lbtOK       dh_install: libqt4-dbg missing files (usr/lib/libQt3Support.so.*.debug), aborting00:37
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Proteousw00t, someone made a touch enabled version a putty for s60v5 and it's really sweet01:00
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Proteouswipping up and down to sent pageup and pagedown to irssi is sweet01:02
Proteousso is proofreading but who has the time?01:03
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nikosapiDoes it make sense that my n810 isn't playing sound from the external speakers even when the headphone/state file in /sys says "disconnected"?02:01
nikosapiand yes, my headphones are unplugged :P02:01
nomisnikosapi: maybe your mixer is confused.02:04
qwerty12_N810nikosapi: dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.osso_hp_ls_controller /com/nokia/osso_hp_ls_controller com.nokia.osso_hp_ls_controller.loudspeaker.force_loudspeaker_on02:05
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nikosapisweeeeet02:06
nikosapithank you so much qwerty12_N81002:06
nikosapiAt first I thought the switch/load-detection in the headphone connector was broken, but it's still detecting the state properly02:07
nikosapiso I still don't know what's making it malfunction02:08
qwerty12_N810Think multimediad can get stuck sometimes02:08
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nikosapiafter I reboot it works, but after plugging it headphones it doesn't work anymore02:09
nikosapiI don't really mind though, at least I have a work-around now02:09
coldbootGOT IT!02:09
coldbootI fixed the flickering bug completely.02:09
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jhford-workis there a way to clone a maemo device?03:09
nikosapiiirc, there was something on talk.maemo.org the other day about that03:10
jhford-worki am trying to either modify the rootfs, or clone an existing n81003:11
nikosapiI've done it by rsync'ing over all the data from / to an sd card then booting off the sd card03:11
jhford-workoh?03:11
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jhford-worki am currently rsyncing / to a folder on another cmoputer then creating a jffs2 filesystem with that as the root of the image.  it doesn't work though03:12
jhford-worknikosapi: when you rsync'd did you include /proc, /dev and /sys?03:12
nikosapisee that's what I'm uncertain about which is why I just copied it to an sd card (formatted as ext2)03:12
nikosapijhford-work: I think just /dev03:13
nikosapisys and proc are virtual filesystems03:13
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nikosapijhford-work: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=223846&postcount=203:14
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jhford-worknikosapi: thanks03:15
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lcukstar trek is cool!03:21
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amrlord i hate python03:35
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amrhow on earth do i get it so the file name doesn't appear in the title using python?03:57
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* xnt14 thinks about building a datacenter into his room.... xD04:54
lcukwhy stick at one04:54
lcukyou could have a cluster of datacentres04:55
Macerhm04:58
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xnt14:P05:05
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xnt14hmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZOS_welcome_screen.png05:06
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timeless_mbphelp?05:08
timeless_mbpanyone here familiar w/ GPE?05:08
timeless_mbphttps://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481805:08
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LinuxCodenever tried two alarms05:11
LinuxCodetimeless_mbp, I can only set one alarm05:13
timeless_mbpis this related to GPE, alarmd, or what?05:13
LinuxCodeyou set the alrm in gpe itself right ?05:13
timeless_mbpfiling a bug in Misdirected: Nokia is odd05:13
timeless_mbpLinuxCode: i'm not the reporter05:14
LinuxCodeI get no option to add another alarm05:14
LinuxCodeohh05:14
LinuxCodesorry mate05:14
LinuxCodethen throw it out05:14
LinuxCodenot a bug05:14
LinuxCodemissing feature05:14
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puelocesarHi, anyone developing on Qt for Maemo?05:18
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puelocesarMy qt app can't access internet from scratchbox, but it works on the device05:19
puelocesar"QMaemoInternetConnectivity has received an error message."05:19
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xnt14hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_emulator06:57
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chxwow07:05
chxi know a number of mainframe people who would consider this sacrilege07:05
chxthey wont touch a PC with a ten foot barge pole07:05
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xnt14lol07:07
xnt14so, their main computer is a mainframe? :P07:07
xnt14home mainframe...lol07:07
chxthese people literally live on campus07:08
chxand they still think the PC is a fad07:08
chxthey used mainframes for (many) decades07:09
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RST38h<yawn>07:29
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Macerso like08:36
Macervirtualhosts in apache are supposed to be completely transparent right?08:36
Macereven if the box is behind a nat?08:36
Macerall traffic is simply directed by the apache server into the virtual hosts?08:36
Macereven if the vhost is a redirected host on the local subnet?08:36
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tomdavidsonhi there, i need some advice on partitioning. Im going to install mer .15 tomarrow I want to keep maemo on the internal memory, have mer on the interal flash and have the two OSes use the same swap space on the internal memory? this is what i do with my workstation, but im fuzzy on how maemo uses swap?09:25
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tomdavidsonaah dang it. i cant flash my n810 with firmware. i intstalled boot menu with the mer installer. now when i start up the device with the swap button push... flasher3.0 doesnt do anything and the n810 boots09:49
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Stskeepsdid you start the flasher, and -then- the device? :P09:57
Pavlovanyone know how to make an image of an n810?09:57
tomdavidsonyes. have done it np a dozen times before09:57
Pavlovthat i could flash on to them?09:57
Pavlovlike, set one up, make image, flash on to others?09:57
tlfor maemo input method,i can't switch one plugin to another using function "hildon_im_ui_activate_plugin(priv->ui,"himExample_vkb",TRUE);".is there anybody who know it?09:58
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tomdavidsonnice... now maemo boots ... and than reboots again and again... this is new.09:59
Stskeepstl: what are you attempting to make?09:59
tli want to switch from one plugin to another in maemo input method.10:00
Stskeepsalright - you have to make it present itself as supporting your current language10:00
Stskeepselse it will be grey10:00
slonopotamustomdavidson, they call it userfriendly behaviour. instead of manual fix, it reboots for you10:01
tlyeah the twe plugin all are grey10:01
Stskeepstomdavidson: did you clone to SD before?10:01
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tomdavidsonha ha right... ive been mssing that feature with ms windows updates10:01
tomdavidsoni did not clone first.10:02
Stskeepsnah, i was talking about if you ever did it10:02
slonopotamushello, my name is Marat and i clone to SD10:02
Stskeepsdolly?10:02
Stskeeps:P10:02
Stskeepsor whatever that sheep name was10:02
tomdavidsonha ha ya i got ya10:03
slonopotamusi used to clone two times a day, but now do it only once it a week10:03
tlStskeeps:what i should do to make it support current language.thanks10:03
slonopotamustomdavidson, you should do cloning alone until initiated10:04
slonopotamuss/should/shouldn't/10:04
tomdavidsoni must be missing something. I dont understand the need for the clone at this point? btw, i used the mer installer rather than flashing the image10:06
Stskeepstomdavidson: did you have low disk space at the time of installing? on the internal flash (root)10:06
Macerhm10:06
Macercan someone do me a favor and go to www.rancorous.net10:06
Macerand see if they see anything?10:06
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Stskeepsit's up10:07
Macerawesome :)10:07
tomdavidsonno errors where reported. and i had a fresh flash of maemo so i do not thinki had disk space issue10:07
Maceri don't believe in facebook.. i believe if i am going to rant about things that it should be on my own server10:07
Macerhaha10:07
Maceri have to start working on vhosts and web pages now :)10:08
MacerStskeeps: if you don't mind I'll work on making a mer one.. this site should run fast (at least 20x faster than that piece of crap esxi stuff did)10:08
tomdavidsonstays booted with out the usb pluged it. also looks like the mer installer was going to use the interal sd for swap. i thought that was a bad itea?10:08
Macerwow was taht a disappointment10:08
Stskeepstomdavidson: nah - it's not that bad, but external swap would probably be saner10:09
tomdavidsonthe sd memory doesnt "wear out" faster?10:09
Stskeepsyeah.. and it's non-replacable10:09
Stskeepsafaik sd memory wearing out is a myth but who knows :P10:10
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slonopotamusStskeeps, sd cards have ~10k write cycles per block, right?10:14
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slonopotamusStskeeps, i wonder how many of them happen each day10:15
tomdavidsondang it. i start flasher. get the "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" message. Then I turn on the n810 with the swap key pressed. But i get the boot menu from when i tried to install mer and no flash. not finding much on the web10:15
Stskeepstomdavidson: you can try the alternative, turn off n8x0 totally ad then put inn usb, then put in charger10:17
Macerms expressions isn't too bad for web design10:19
Maceri mean not that i'm a hard core web designer10:19
Macerbut it looks rather good :)10:19
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tomdavidsonstskeeps still got the boot menu10:22
Stskeepstomdavidson: hmm, flasher-3.0-static?10:22
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tomdavidsonnope flasher-3.0, i dont konw the differnce.10:23
Stskeepstry grabbing flasher-3.0-static, because your libusb may be foobar10:23
Stskeepsat this point it looks like it's on the computer side10:24
Stskeepscan i see the command you use to flash?10:24
tomdavidsoni just tried static linked version.. "./flasher-3.0-static -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R10:27
tomdavidson"10:28
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Pavlovwill flasher let you create flash images?10:30
MacerOMFG!10:30
MacerSanDisk Extreme® (III) SD. and SDHC. Cards10:31
MacerEXTREME!!@#10:31
Pavlov!!10:31
Pavlov30mb/sec!10:31
tomdavidsonpavlov i have not tried. will do. just a min10:31
Pavlov-F ... -f -R is what you want10:32
Pavlovto flash an image on there10:32
MacerPavlov: heh10:32
Maceryeah that thing is extreme10:32
PavlovMacer: yeah, i've got a few of them -- they're pretty nice10:32
Macerreally?10:33
Pavlovtomdavidson: i dont know much about how mer works though10:33
Macerclass 10 32GB sds?10:33
Macerheh10:33
PavlovMacer: i've just got the 8gb ones10:33
Macerare you hoarding them?10:33
Maceroh10:33
Pavlovnot the new fancy ones10:33
Maceroh10:33
Pavlovthough i think the newer ones are just bigger10:33
Pavlovbut mine only claim class 610:34
Pavlovbut 30mb/s which i think is class 1010:34
tomdavidsonallright. i give. how do i create an image with flasher?10:35
Pavlovdunno10:35
Stskeepstomdavidson: no result on flashing diablo?10:36
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Pavlovtomdavidson: you're plugging it in via usb and then turning it on right?10:36
tomdavidsonstskeeps nope not yet. bout time for me to call it quits though.10:36
tomdavidsonyes pavlov10:37
Stskeepstomdavidson: can i assume you pop the battery?10:37
Pavlovand you're holding down the right button when you turn on your device?10:37
tomdavidsoni did several times in troubleshooting. but never had to in the past10:38
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Pavlovthe button to the left of the power button10:38
tomdavidsonfor the n810 it is the swap button. hold  it down than turn it on10:38
Pavlovthe two overlapping triangles yeah10:38
Pavlover, rectangles10:38
Pavlovhmm10:39
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Pavlovtomdavidson: try a different usb port on your computer?10:39
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JaffaNirbubgm akk10:41
tomdavidsonya i need to try it with out the hub. but the computer is in a closet in another room. ill have to rearrain a bit to make it work. using the same port as i had in the past though.sounds like it is the comptuer and not something with the boot menu or n810. freak, mayber i just need to restart after the latest updates10:41
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tomdavidsonpush 2am for me. thank you for the help. i will hit up more later...  good night10:44
Pavlovgooud luck10:44
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sarowerGood morning all10:56
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sarowerI am catching the stylus motion event from my applet. But it does not get the motion / drag event. System handles / catches the event.10:57
sarowerHow i can handle the drag event for applet development10:57
sarower?? any body any help..?10:57
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Macerlittle piece of me wishes they had iweb for windows :)11:36
floriangood morning11:36
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qwerty12_N810Lol, I got a Google Voice invite. Anyone happen to know a good proxy? =)11:38
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JaffaStskeeps: ta :)11:40
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timeless_mbpandre__: kinda amazing someone managed to choose to file a bug in misdirected :)11:50
timeless_mbpandre__: we can close x-misdirected to new bugs...11:50
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andre__timeless_mbp, i just did11:51
timeless_mbpok :)11:52
andre__well. in gnome bugzilla people file bugs into "Do not Use"11:52
* timeless_mbp chuckles11:52
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timeless_mbpfwiw, for misdirected, if our bugzilla is new enough we can set an entry group for admin11:53
timeless_mbpand then you and i can move misdirected bugs w/o bothering the sheeple11:53
andre__ah, nice11:55
* timeless_mbp sighs11:55
timeless_mbpthe osx dock just works11:55
timeless_mbp]11:55
timeless_mbpi had a firefox item in my dock, i renamed the real app to firefox 3.0.x.app11:55
timeless_mbpand added a firefox 3.5.x.app11:56
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StskeepsJaffa: possible new target for Mer, -- archos 6 just got cracked open :)11:56
Stskeepsor whatever the omap3 one is11:56
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timeless_mbpwhen i clicked on my dock item, it managed to find 3.0.x and rename the icon in my dock11:59
_BuBU1Archos 5 (not archos 6 :) )12:01
JaffaStskeeps: nice12:03
JaffaStskeeps: Can't see Archos meeting the vendor contract ;-)12:03
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StskeepsJaffa: yeah.. so it will probably be an effort from the device community12:06
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timeless_mbpStskeeps: did 0.15 ship?12:15
Stskeepstimeless_mbp: partly - i had some N8x0 problems12:15
Stskeepsso it's not out just yet12:15
Stskeepswiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.15 to dl .. there's a wide range of known issues though, but we had to do a snapshot release now to get things out12:16
Stskeepsand then we'll spend most of 0.16 sprint to fix stuff12:17
Stskeeps(yes, i didn't get around to fixing the shift button ..)12:18
RST38hmoo all.12:26
Stskeepsmoo12:27
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Macerwtf14:11
Macerhm14:11
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RST38hReport: iPhone Leak Interrogations Drive Foxconn Employee to Suicide!15:23
RST38h-1.15:23
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brankinhuhey, i've an ARM7 LPC2378 (http://yhst-27389313707334.stores.yahoo.net/arlpwi2tftto.html) someone knows if maemo it's work on LPC2378?16:33
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RST38hNo.16:33
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RST38hNo ARM7s, sorry16:33
RST38hif(is.opera) { window.location.href="config/error.htm";16:33
Stskeepsbrankinhu: wiki.maemo.org/Mer might be of interest16:34
RST38hCthulhu was feasting on some Norvegian brain matter, it seems...16:34
Stskeepsah16:34
Stskeepsarm7, not armv716:34
RST38hSts: Mer won't run either16:34
RST38hSts: No MMU.16:34
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StskeepsRST38h: aye, you're right16:35
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chxRST38h: yeah that opera story is so FAIL.16:53
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jaskahah16:57
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Stskeepsqwerty12_N810: tried out the compcache yet?17:31
qwerty12_N810Nah, looking at the readme and it mentions its own tools, so I'm thinking of building it myself later17:33
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LoCusFcool, good to know that people are still interested in it :)18:17
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coldbootfiferboy: I fixed the flicker bug.19:41
coldbootfiferboy: I had my proxy code in the wrong place.19:41
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fiferboycoldboot: Nice!  So now only a proxy widget is converted to x11 native?19:48
coldbootYep, which is the top-level nativeParentWidget.19:48
coldbootI have a merge request submitted.19:48
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coldboothttp://qt.gitorious.org/~nhooey/qt/nhooey-qt-maemo-bugfixes/commit/72ec52f8cae6264a8ca971a1cb3e8f01b85af10619:49
fiferboycoldboot: That's awesome.  That means there shouldn't be flicker even on widgets that accept input, correct?19:49
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coldbootfiferboy: Yep, all flicker is gone completely.19:50
fiferboycoldboot: Very sweet19:50
coldbootThere is no more conversion to native X windows.19:50
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fiferboyAntonio is on vacation right now, I think, so it might be a while before it gets merged19:50
coldbootThat's cool.19:50
fiferboyHave you tested in in 4.5.0 as well?19:52
coldbootfiferboy: Well, that's the only place I tested it.19:53
coldbootfiferboy: If you could test it on 4.5.2 that would be great.19:53
fiferboycoldboot: Sure, I can do that19:54
coldbootCool, thanks.19:54
fiferboyNo problem19:54
RST38hehlo all19:58
lcuki just had my ears wiped out19:59
lcukhi rstr19:59
lcukice cream van parked right under my open window, and started its chimes.  i think i am deaf19:59
RST38hheya lcuk20:00
fiferboyYou guys must have some serious ice cream vans over there...20:00
RST38hlcuk: Parking an ice cream van in an neighbourhood at 6am is a good way to check for illegal concealed weapons20:00
coldbootRST38h: What?20:01
RST38hcoldboot: nevermind.20:01
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coldbootfiferboy: It at least builds fine in 4.5.220:02
fiferboyI'm just going to fetch your branch and test it on my device20:02
lcukRST38h, my missus is deaf too, she practically fell off the chair20:03
lcukand yeah, if she had a rifle she wouldv been out there with it20:03
lcuklol20:03
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RST38hlcuk: Who wouldn't? =)20:04
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johnsqHi20:09
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johnsqslonopotamus: Hi20:10
slonopotamusjohnsq, hi there20:10
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coldbootIs superuser.com still in beta?20:12
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fiferboycoldboot: I compiled and copied the library over to my device, but I get a segfault20:32
coldbootah shit20:33
fiferboyI'm going to try it on a completely clean build, as I may have had some crap in my hildon-input-method branch20:33
coldbootok cool20:33
fiferboyDon't panic yet, it may be my fault20:33
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coldbootfiferboy: It segfaults on mine, too...20:38
coldbootfiferboy: I must have changed something since I last tested it..20:39
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coldbootI got it20:40
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coldbootmaybe not20:41
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fiferboycoldboot: What changes have you made recently?20:59
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coldbootfiferboy: I just forgot to check for a null, testing now.21:02
coldbootI was moving code around between the svn and git version, and deleted a line by accident.21:02
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fiferboyYou use the SVN version as your base because it is in extras?21:03
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coldbootfiferboy: Okay it's working now, merge again with me.21:17
Proteouskinky21:17
fiferboycoldboot: Will do21:17
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Stskeepzis it just me or is talk.maemo.org deadly slow today? :P21:20
RST38hsame here21:20
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locutus  /win 2421:35
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r2d2rogersdoesn't get to the progress bar21:43
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r2d2rogersredoing the partition and trying the image again21:46
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fiferboycoldboot: That lastest fix does it21:55
fiferboyYour solution looks good, no flicker, HIM still works fine from what I can see21:55
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coldbootExcellent.21:59
fiferboyIs that last change included in the current merge request?21:59
fiferboycoldboot: Or will you remove that one and send another with the correction?21:59
coldbootI deleted the last one.22:01
coldbootBecause I didn't want anyone accepting it while I was working on the fix.22:01
coldbootI also squashed my commits into one, so you only see the working one.22:01
coldbootI like a clean history.22:01
coldbootfiferboy: Hey is superuser.com still in beta?22:02
fiferboycoldboot: I will comment on your merge request22:03
fiferboycoldboot: It says it is.  What is it?22:03
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lbtnice design there coldboot very elegant ;)22:09
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fiferboycoldboot: proxy widget WAS a good idea22:10
lbtI'd suggest some extra text in the description though; something to the effect that this is only expected to be set on toplevel windows as these will always be native22:10
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fiferboylbt: Can you confirm something with the old HIM code?  Do you have a Qt maemo install handy?22:14
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lbtI have a very old install on diablo22:14
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fiferboylbt: When the keyboard pops up after clicking on an input widget, does it automatically pop down when clicking on a non-input widget?22:15
lbtah, 4.5.2-1maemo122:15
lbtsec, I have another install22:16
fiferboy4.5.2 is fine, I meant before the HIM changes, sorry22:16
fiferboyWithout coldboot's changes, that is22:17
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lbtno, the other install has no Qt on it (bare Diablo)22:18
lbtsorry22:18
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coldbootlbt: Thanks!22:21
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coldbootJust ate free cake at work.22:22
coldbootsuperuser.com, stackoverflow.com and serverfault.com are question sites.22:22
coldbootThey're all made by Joel on Software and Jeff Atwood, and some other dudes.22:22
lbtnice22:22
coldbootIt eliminates the "too many morons replying to the stupid long thread from 800 years ago" problem of asking questions about programming or software.22:22
amrsuperuser looks identical to stackoverflow22:23
amrim quite fond of stackoverflow22:23
coldbootStackoverflow.com is for programming, Serverfault.com is for IT stuff, and Superuser.com is for user questions about software. For example, ATI's stupid crap driver questions would be superuser.com22:23
amroic22:23
fiferboycoldboot: Do you know if the on-screen keyboard would automatically pop down when a non-input widget was clicked before you made your changes?22:23
coldbootfiferboy: I can revert 4.5.0 and check.22:24
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RST38hAnd there is still no KillAllHumans.com ?22:24
RST38hWeird22:24
fiferboycoldboot: That was something I noticed after my one-line change, but couldn't remember the previous behaviour22:24
RST38hAh there is!22:24
coldbootkillallhumans.com is taken.22:25
RST38hthere is some strange stuff there too, may be a viral campaign for some movie22:27
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GAN800RST38h, there's a flash clicking game at killeveryone.com I think.22:27
RST38hGAN: There is Barrage for the tablet, so I am all set :)22:28
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coldbootfiferboy: Yeah the keyboard goes away when you click a dropdown menu after having been in a text lineedit.22:31
fiferboycoldboot: That's what I suspected.  Somehow the "close" signal is no longer being sent on non-input widgets22:32
coldbootfiferboy: In my fix?22:32
coldbootshit22:32
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fiferboycoldboot: Maybe because you remove the proxy widget on HILDON_IM_HIDE before the command gets sent?22:36
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coldboot|consolefiferboy: That's probably it...22:36
jhfordhas anyone ever tried wiring up a power adapter straight to the battery contacts on an n81022:37
coldboot|consolefiferboy: I guess I need to remove the proxy after that message is received.22:37
fiferboycoldboot: It looks like that would work22:37
lcukjhford, whilst you are trying, i'll phone for ambulance and fire brigade22:38
lcukwhere abouts do you live/22:38
jhfordbay area :)22:39
lcukwhat are the laws in your area regarding IEDs?22:40
jhford:P22:40
jhfordi would use the same power as a battery obviously22:40
coldboot|bbfiferboy: do you know where the message is received?22:40
lcukjhford, the battery terminals on the n810 are bidirectional22:41
fiferboycoldboot: The HILDON_IM_HIDE?  I assume somewhere in the hildon-input-method code, but I haven't looked through it22:41
lbtjhford: IIRC the normal power adaptors can't provide enough current to run the tablet.22:41
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lbtplus the voltage variation is measured to detect battery characteristics22:41
jhfordright, but what i want to do is find a power supply that does 1.5mAh at 3.7v (Battery level) and solder it to the battery contacts22:42
lbtgo for it22:42
jhfordi don't care about what the charge level says22:42
lcukwhy not just leave the battery in and use a normal nokia charger?22:42
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jhforddo i need to do anything special for the third pin on the back?22:42
lcuki know its more "sane"22:42
jhfordlcuk: i am doing automated unit tests and have to reboot after each run.  the device doesn't start cleanly with the AC plugged in22:42
RST38hjhford: you want to stand as far away from your contraption as possible22:42
lcukthen you are doing something even more wrong22:43
jhforduhh, no22:43
lcukwhy not have your console for your unit tests call "reboot"22:43
RST38hLithium based batteries are kinda fiery when they rupture22:43
lcukhe wont have the battery in22:43
lbtRST38h: he won't have a battery in there22:43
jhfordcause when AC is plugged in, it doesn't come up cleanly, it does an endless reboot22:43
lcukdirect to mains transfer ;)22:43
jhfordi don22:43
jhfordt intend to plug a battery to a power adapter?!?!?!22:43
RST38hah22:44
jhfordi was more wondering why there are three contacts on the battery22:44
lbtjhford: the reboot cycle is wrong22:44
jhfordlbt: oh?22:44
lcukjhford, if your device does not come back from reboot when its in the mains theres something wrong with the device22:44
lbt(in a normal tablet with a battery installed etc)22:44
lcukits a normal expected thing to do surely22:44
jhfordit does sometimes22:44
lbtI have issues with mine when Diablo is on the SD card22:45
jhfordwe have ~=20 of them and about 3-4 need manual resets daily22:45
lbtflash-based diablo is fine22:45
lbtbut if the battery is low then SD diablo won't boot22:45
lbtweird stuff22:45
lbtthere are some PDF specs floating around that may give more info on the 3rd pin22:46
lbtI think it's a sensor22:46
lcukjhford, so let me get this straight, you want to wire up a whole cluster of tablets to mains instead of battery power22:46
jhfordlcuk: yes22:46
lcuka clusterbomb of sorts22:46
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jhfordlcuk: 3.7v@1.5Ah is not a cluster bomb :P22:46
lcuk*20 is22:46
jhfordlbt: you wouldn't happen to have a link to the pdf would you?22:47
lbtsorry22:47
lbtdon't even recall the google magic to find it22:47
jhfordi wonder if the device would work with nothing done to the third pin22:47
coldbootfiferboy: There doesn't seem to be a place where HILDON_IM_HIDE is specifically received.22:47
fiferboycoldboot: In the hildon-input-method code outside of Qt?22:49
qwerty12_N810jhford: http://qwerty12.qole.org/q12_patch_writable_bootreason.diff (kernel patch) (excuse the shitty code, C isn't one of my specialities, kernel programming less so) and http://pastebin.com/f22deb603 in /mnt/initfs/linuxrc lets the tablet startup normally with the charger in22:49
fiferboycoldboot: Or within Qt?22:49
lcuko_O as usual qwerty, you come with a solution that might actually save lives!22:50
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jhfordqwerty12_N810: awesome!22:50
asasakijhford: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314422:52
qwerty12_N810(normally == runlevel 2 and dsme thinking it's been booted by holding the power key, and not from the power adapter)22:52
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asasakijhford: also https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330022:52
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coldbootfiferboy: Found it, fixing it now.22:56
fiferboycoldboot: Awesome22:57
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ShadowJKjhford, the middle pin is connected to a simple resistor to indicate battery capacity23:03
ShadowJK3.6 - 4.2V should be fine. The charger puts out >6V though, so don't use that.23:04
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lcuknope, not fine23:07
lcuksomeone put in a 911 call to the bay area ;)23:07
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ShadowJKHe's not using the battery, so the most he'll do is fry his N810 :-)23:10
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lcukwhat media player do people use23:12
lcukand are there any that will remotely control one on my windows machine23:12
till-vlc with telnet interface :)23:13
lcuk(I have a video remote, but thats specific and limited) i am thinking something tied to the player itself and shows/allows selection of music23:13
lcuktill-, i gather the remote interface oculd be processed23:13
lcukthats not such a bad idea..23:13
ShadowJKI once hooked up the IR receiver led from a vcr to line-in on a soundcard23:14
RST38hAnd?23:14
ShadowJKand wrote decoder for it to use the dead vcr's remote to control mplayer and xmms on my computer23:14
lcukyeah, thats possible, as a remote sender as well23:14
RST38hAh23:15
lcukall it needs is oscilliscope and wav cutter/playback23:15
RST38hcunning23:15
lcuksomeone in here made one for their n810 i think23:15
johnsqlcuk: I wrote a lirc -> wav convertor23:15
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till-try winlirc23:16
johnsqstereo connector and 2 ir-leds are enough, nice 9m range.23:16
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ShadowJKabout halfway through making my software, I discovered LIRC had code to support the same contraption. it proved easier to finish my own software hacks than to figure out how to make lirc compile :)23:18
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* ShadowJK unboxes new earphones :D23:21
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toggles_wShadowJK: shiny.. with mic? if so got link?23:27
ShadowJKearphones? no mic23:29
ShadowJKremote control receiver? no microphones involved23:29
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ShadowJKCreative EP-63023:33
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coldbootDo you guys know how to update a merge request?23:36
coldbootOn Gitorious.23:36
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lbtcoldboot no ... http://blog.gitorious.org/2009/07/15/new-merge-request-functionality/23:38
lbtgit push git@gitorious.org:<blah> master:refs/merge-requests/89223:39
lbtso yes23:39
coldbootah nice23:39
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lbtcoldboot... re function23:56
lbt(method!)23:56
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coldbootheh23:57
lbt:)23:58
lbtQWidget?23:58
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lbthow is it called?#23:59
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